NYSE:CYH Community Health Systems Q2 2024 Earnings Report $2.80 +0.01 (+0.18%) As of 11:38 AM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Community Health Systems EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.17Consensus EPS -$0.12Beat/MissMissed by -$0.05One Year Ago EPS-$0.22Community Health Systems Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$3.14 billionExpected Revenue$3.10 billionBeat/MissBeat by +$44.46 millionYoY Revenue Growth+0.80%Community Health Systems Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date7/24/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, July 25, 2024Conference Call Time11:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsCommunity Health Systems' Q2 2026 earnings is estimated for Wednesday, July 22, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, July 23, 2026 at 11:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Community Health Systems Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJuly 25, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Community Health Systems reported a 4.7% same-store net revenue increase and adjusted EBITDA of $387 million in Q2 2024, driven by 3% growth in admissions and record outpatient surgery volumes. The company achieved strong cost management gains, with contract labor expenses down 39%, supplies expense reduced by 80 basis points, and average hourly wages up only 4% supported by productivity improvements. CHS continued major strategic investments, deploying over $3 billion since 2018 in new and expanded facilities—highlighted by a high-performing Knoxville tower, new Alabama emergency departments—and advanced its ERP “Project Empower” rollout. A planned acquisition by Novant Health of the company’s North Carolina hospitals was abruptly terminated amid an FTC lawsuit, forcing CHS to reallocate resources while it pursues alternative divestiture opportunities. Financial flexibility improved as CHS priced $1.225 billion of new secured notes, extended its $1 billion ABL to 2029, reduced net debt/EBITDA to 7.6×, and expects over $1 billion in proceeds from pending asset sales. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallCommunity Health Systems Q2 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Hey, and welcome to the Community Health Systems Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. We do ask that you limit yourself to one question and a single follow-up. Please also note, today's event is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Anton Hie, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Anton HieVP of Investor Relations at Community Health Systems00:00:43Thank you, Rocco. Good morning, and welcome to Community Health Systems second quarter 2024 conference call. Joining me on today's call are Tim Hingtgen, Chief Executive Officer, and Kevin Hammons, President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I must remind everyone that this conference call may contain certain forward-looking statements, including all statements that do not relate solely to historical or current facts. These forward-looking statements are subject to a number of known and unknown risks, which are described in headings such as Risk Factors in our annual report on Form 10-K and other reports filed with or furnished to the SEC. Actual results may differ significantly from those expressed in any forward-looking statements in today's discussion. We do not intend to update any of these forward-looking statements. Anton HieVP of Investor Relations at Community Health Systems00:01:27Yesterday afternoon, we issued a press release with our financial statements and definitions and calculations of adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EPS. We've also posted a supplemental slide presentation on our website. All calculations we will discuss exclude impairment expense, as well as gains or losses on the sale of businesses, expense from government and other legal matters and related costs, expense from business transformation costs, expenses related to employee termination benefits, and other restructuring charges. With that said, I'll turn the call over to Tim Hingtgen, Chief Executive Officer. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:01:59Thanks, Anton. Good morning, and thank you for joining our second quarter conference call. At the midpoint of 2024, we are pleased with our progress, including a solid second quarter that produced both volume and earnings growth. In the second quarter, same-store net revenues increased 4.7% compared to the same period last year. Adjusted EBITDA for this quarter was $387 million, compared to $373 million in the second quarter of 2023. Same-store admissions improved 3%, adjusted admissions improved 3.2%, and surgeries were up 0.6%. About surgeries, I want to note that the second quarter increase is on top of a record surgery volume quarter for the company last year. So we were pleased to see same-store surgical volume reaching yet a new high in the second quarter this year. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:02:56This progress is driven in part by particularly strong outpatient case volumes, including in our ambulatory surgery centers, whose performance and results are complementary to their local affiliated CHS health systems. We also experienced generally strong outpatient volumes, including growth in emergency department visits, urgent care, and in physician practices. In addition to year-over-year same-store growth, we also achieved sequential improvements over the first quarter of 2024, and we expect to carry this momentum into the second half of the year. Much of our growth is attributable to the strategic investments made in our markets, which include ongoing physician recruitment and capital investments to expand access and capacity. We've invested more than $3 billion into our health systems since 2018, which includes new and replacement hospital facilities, bed and procedural space expansions, new technologies, and a wide spectrum of access points and outpatient services. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:04:00Earlier this year, we opened our new tower at Tennova North Knoxville, where performance is already exceeding initial expectations. A major expansion is underway in South Baldwin County, Alabama, which remains on track to open this year and will create incremental capacity and produce more growth in this rapidly growing market. Other recent openings include a freestanding emergency department in Huntsville, Alabama, which brings our company count to 18 freestanding EDs in total, several new physician practice locations, and investments to expand procedural space and services in multiple CHS hospitals. Regarding our portfolio, it has been widely reported that Novant Health ended its plans to acquire our North Carolina hospitals. That was an abrupt decision, but given the FTC's lawsuit, we were prepared for the possibility that the transaction would not be completed. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:04:56We rapidly deployed CHS resources to support our North Carolina team and to further evaluate our position and potential future opportunities in the market. That work is ongoing. The divestiture of our Cleveland, Tennessee hospital is on track and expected to be completed in the third quarter. Additional transactions are underway, and we continue to carefully review inbound interest related to other markets. We are very pleased with progress related to recruitment and retention of our workforce and the programs in place to support our teams. We hired nearly 3,000 registered nurses during the first half of 2024, and our nurse retention rate is very strong, at its highest level in a decade. Our centralized recruitment program has expanded to include allied health physicians in areas such as imaging, pharmacy, lab, respiratory, and surgical services. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:05:51Across these positions, hiring is up by more than 14% year-over-year. Other facets of cost management have been an area of strength this year, with contract labor, supplies, and other expenses turning down in the second quarter. Innovative solutions to improve care delivery and our business operations are another area of specific focus. During the second quarter, we announced an expanded partnership with Mark Cuban Cost Plus Drugs. All of our hospitals will now be able to purchase select drugs from the Cost Plus Drugs marketplace, initially resulting in $hundreds of thousands in savings and enabling the potential for even greater savings over time. On July first, we deployed the third wave of our affiliated health systems onto our enterprise resource planning platform. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:06:40The initiative, which we internally refer to as Project Empower, now supports more than half of our hospitals and will be fully deployed by the end of the year. This investment is yielding deeper insights into our business functions, and we expect to identify opportunities for additional standardization, expense management, and value creation as our experience with this enhanced operational tool matures. Our clinicians, caregivers, and local leadership teams are making a real and positive difference in every community we serve. On Tuesday, we released our 2024 Community Impact Report, and I hope you had the opportunity to take a look at it. We are so proud of the quality of care and the breadth of services we provide, and also what that means to our communities as we generate meaningful economic impact. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:07:30We are committed to causes that improve health and well-being, and we are powered by an amazing group of people who care deeply about others and who ensure that our purpose, to help people get well and live healthier, is always fulfilled. With that, Kevin, I'll turn the call over to you. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:07:45Thank you, Tim, and good morning, everyone. As Tim indicated, we were pleased with financial results as we delivered another quarter of steady improvement, which again, was consistent with our expectations and reflects strong execution by our operating teams in the solid demand environment in our markets. The momentum in volume growth that began last year continues, leading to same-store growth across all key metrics, including a 3% increase in admissions, a 3.2% increase in adjusted admissions, a 1.1% increase in emergency department visits, and a 0.6% increase in surgeries against the strong 6.2% surgical volume comp in the second quarter of 2023. Net operating revenues for the quarter were $3.14 billion, representing consolidated year-over-year growth of 0.8%. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:08:48On a same-store basis, net revenue increased 4.7%, in line with our target for mid-single digit growth for the year. The same-store top line growth was driven by the 3.2% increase in adjusted admissions, along with a 1.4% growth in net revenue per adjusted admission, which primarily reflected improved rates and incremental state Medicaid reimbursement, partly offset by geographic mix shift. While we continue to see some shifts from our Medicare fee-for-service business into Medicare Advantage in the second quarter, we were pleased to see solid commercial volumes, with same-store adjusted admissions growing in line with the Medicare Advantage book. Adjusted EBITDA for the second quarter was $387 million, compared with $373 million in the prior year period, and up slightly on a sequential basis, generally in line with our expectations. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:09:48Margin for the quarter was 12.3%, up from 12% in both the prior year period and sequentially, and consistent with our previous guidance for full year margin in the mid-12% range. This performance reflects strong cost controls as a result of our ongoing efforts to drive productivity and efficiency gains in the face of lingering inflationary pressures on labor, supplies, and other expense categories. We were again pleased with our performance on labor costs in the quarter. Average hourly wage rate was up 4% year over year, in line with our expectations for the full year 2024, and helped by improved productivity and reductions across premium pay categories. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:10:37We also continued to deliver improvement on contract labor spend, which was down approximately $30 million sequentially to $45 million, and down $29 million, or 39%, from $74 million in the second quarter of 2023. Note, this decrease in contract labor was slightly better than our expectation of contract labor remaining at approximately $50 million per quarter for the year. So we are pleased with the continued progress that reflects our recruitment and retention efforts, along with lower hourly rates for contracted nurses. On supplies expense, we delivered an 80 basis point reduction as a percent of consolidated net revenue, and same-store supplies expense per adjusted admission declined approximately 2% year-over-year. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:11:31We were particularly pleased to see outperformance in the hospitals where we have implemented new technology and workflows as part of Project Empower, which is providing better insight into procurement savings opportunities that we believe will continue to grow. Medical specialist fees were up slightly, sequentially, and increased approximately 5% from the prior year period, consistent with our expectation for a 5%-10% increase for the full year. We've been pleased with the progress of our hospital-based provider insourcing initiative since taking over operations from the former APP nearly a year ago and continue to evaluate further insourcing opportunities. Provider and other business taxes increased $25 million compared to the prior year quarter, primarily as a result of increases in Medicaid supplemental programs. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:12:28Cash flows from operations were $101 million for the second quarter of 2024, compared with $86 million in the year-ago period. The year-over-year improvement in cash flow primarily reflects improved earnings performance, as well as lower cash payments for interest and improved working capital, improved cash from working capital, including accounts receivable, offset by higher cash tax payments. Capital expenditures for the second quarter of 2024 were $88 million, and for the first half were $181 million, on track for our 2024 guidance range of $350 million-$400 million. The divestiture of Tennova Cleveland remains on track to close in the third quarter, with estimated proceeds of approximately $160 million, plus additional contingent consideration. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:13:25We believe that one or more additional transactions could close within the calendar year, providing substantial capital for the company to redeploy. As we have previously discussed, we estimate combined potential proceeds of more than $1 billion through a handful of transactions that are in various stages of evaluation or negotiation. In May, we priced an upsized tack-on offering of an additional $1.225 billion of our 10 7/8% senior secured notes due 2032, using proceeds and cash on hand to redeem all of our $1.116 billion of remaining 8% senior secured notes due 2026, and to extinguish $130 million principal amount of 2028 notes for $98 million in cash. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:14:19By capturing this discount, these transactions resulted in a combined pre-tax gain from early extinguishment of debt of approximately $26 million during the quarter. The net interest impact of this transaction is an increase of approximately $35 million on an annual basis, but given the timing of completion, the net effect on cash interest in calendar 2024 is minimal. Additionally, in June, we amended and extended our revolving asset-based loan facility, extending the maturity of our $1 billion ABL from November of 2026 to June of 2029. At quarter end, net debt to trailing Adjusted EBITDA was 7.6 times, slightly improved from the 7.7 times last quarter and 7.9 times at the end of 2023. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:15:16We believe we have more than adequate liquidity to meet our needs going forward, with approximately $600 million of borrowing capacity under the ABL, along with the pending asset sale proceeds. Let me pivot and provide a brief update on Project Empower. We recently completed our third wave of deployments, implementing our new financial and supply chain systems and workflows at 25 additional hospitals and related businesses. We now have Oracle business systems running in 47 hospitals, and we are on track to complete our rollout by January first of 2025. With the first six months of 2024 in the books, we are tightening our guidance range for the full year and slightly increasing the midpoint to reflect our increased confidence. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:16:04Specifically, we now anticipate 2024 Adjusted EBITDA of $1.52 billion-$1.6 billion, which, consistent with prior guidance, does not include any contribution from potential new supplemental payment programs, nor does it assume any unannounced divestiture activity. While we are not providing formal quarterly guidance, I would remind everyone on the call that the third quarter is traditionally the softest quarter of the year from an earnings perspective due to seasonal factors, including heightened vacation activity among both patients and physicians. Consistent with typical patterns, we expect the fourth quarter to be our strongest quarter of the year from an EBITDA and cash flow perspective. At this time, we'll turn the call back over to the operator for Q&A. Operator00:16:59Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, we ask that you please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you'd like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. We do ask that you limit yourself to one question and a single follow-up. Today's first question comes from Brian Tanquilut with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Brian TanquilutSenior Equity Research Analyst at Jefferies00:17:30Hey, good morning, guys, and congrats on the quarter. Maybe, Tim, my first question, as I think about, you know, your comments on Novant and Kevin's comments about, you know, still kind of like that billion-dollar goal of divestitures this year, how are you thinking about, you know, kind of the visibility into asset sales or your ability in your mind, given the FTC's objection to the Novant deal, to be able to announce further divestiture opportunities over the course of this year? Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:18:02Sure, Brian, let me take that. So, you know, with the Novant deal, obviously Novant was kind of a you know, in-state provider. What we're seeing, particularly in many of the other opportunities for divestitures, is the group of buyers is changing. Many of both for-profit, non-for-profit healthcare systems are looking outside of their traditional area of service to expand. The FTC, I think, has been, you know, somewhat of an issue for transactions now for a few years. As I look at the remaining opportunities and current deals that we're negotiating right now, the buyers are all, you know, out of market, typically out of state. Similar with the Cleveland, Tennessee deal that we've already announced, the buyer is a nonprofit based in Georgia. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:19:02And so we really don't see any headwinds of being able to complete the other deals that we're currently working on. Brian TanquilutSenior Equity Research Analyst at Jefferies00:19:12Got it. Okay, and then any, Kevin, we're getting a lot of questions on trying to size the potential opportunity or tailwind from the DPP payments, New Mexico and Tennessee. I know you haven't really given the quantification of that, but any comment you can make to help us try to frame the benefit from those things? Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:19:34Sure. We've been a little hesitant to be out there, given that these programs are not yet approved by CMS, and in fact, New Mexico has not yet been submitted by the state's CMS. So what I would say is, we do believe these programs are material to us, but until we get, you know, a little more clarity in terms of what's going to be approved, and in what form, we're just a little hesitant to go out there with any quantification. But that said, we do believe that they'll be materially beneficial to us. Brian TanquilutSenior Equity Research Analyst at Jefferies00:20:12Got it. Understand. Thank you. Operator00:20:16Thank you. Our next question today comes from A.J. Rice at UBS. Please go ahead. A.J. RiceManaging Director of Equity Research at UBS00:20:23Thanks. Hi, everybody. A lot of discussion this quarter about public exchange volumes, how that's helping year to year, what percentage of total it is, as well as also the Two-Midnight Rule. Do you have any thoughts you can give us on how that's impacted your results, this quarter? Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:20:44Sure, A.J. We have certainly seen a decrease in observations and an increase in kind of short stay admissions. Now, you know, we attribute a significant portion of that to the work that we've done internally with our physician advisor group that's helping us qualify those short stays for admissions. And I would say in terms of behavior from the payers, we're still seeing, you know, pretty significant amount of denials and downgrades coming, you know, from the payers. But all that said, we have made progress in reducing the number of observations, increasing short stays that we believe is beneficial. In terms of exchange business and maybe related to redetermination, we have seen a decrease in the volume of Medicaid patients. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:21:45But likewise, you know, we've seen an increase in commercial business. Now, we don't have complete line of sight, when a patient comes in with, you know, an exchange, insurance, maybe versus a regular Blue Cross commercial insurance. But as we look over across our, you know, portfolio, and we see the decrease in Medicaid, with an offsetting increase in commercial, we believe that substantially most of that business is getting picked up, by commercial. We're not seeing a similar increase in self-pay. So, we're not losing it to the uninsured, but probably picking it up is commercial or exchange business. I would think that, you know, we look a lot like national averages, in terms of, of where we are in, in the exchange business. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:22:43We have benefited by being in states like Florida and Texas, that have had some of the highest exchange business enrollment. So, that's been beneficial for us. A.J. RiceManaging Director of Equity Research at UBS00:22:55Okay. Maybe to follow up- Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:22:59Maybe last point I'd make on that, there is a pretty wide variation from market to market with exchange penetration. A.J. RiceManaging Director of Equity Research at UBS00:23:07Oh, interesting. Just a follow-up question. You mentioned increased or continuing payer scrutiny on the observation status case. I wonder, to broaden that out, you know, there's been this discussion about the labor impact and maybe getting some of that in the rates. Are you still seeing that in your managed care rates? You're getting a little help catch up on labor and broader than just Two-Midnight Rule, how about just utilization review activity? I know some of that got eased up with the Change Healthcare cyberattack. Is that all back to normal at this point? Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:23:47Yes, so in terms of rates, our reimbursement or new contracted rates are coming in for next year, pretty similar to where they came in this past year, probably the last two years. So I still believe that some of the incremental labor cost is flowing through. The rate increases we're getting are still about 100 basis points above what we had seen traditionally and, you know, look a lot like what they looked like coming into 2024. In terms of Change Healthcare, you know, we did not experience a significant disruption related to Change. So that, you know, I would say, has kind of worked its way through, and we don't have any real lingering impacts from that. A.J. RiceManaging Director of Equity Research at UBS00:24:43Okay. Thanks a lot. Operator00:24:47Thank you. Our next question today comes from Ben Hendrix at RBC Capital. Please go ahead. Ben HendrixVice President at RBC Capital00:24:54Thank you very much. Just a quick question to follow up on the growth you've seen on the exchange side. Been a lot of questions about the fate of the enhanced subsidies in 2026. Wanted to get your thoughts on the impact you've seen from that contribution to growth and exchange volume, and then what you think the levers are for maintaining, maybe retaining some of that coverage, assuming that we do see a kind of a roll off of those enhanced subsidies beyond 2025. Thanks. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:25:29Sure Dan, this is Tim. I'll take that one, and Kevin, feel free to weigh in. In terms of the look forward for the expiration of some of those enhanced subsidies in 2026, as you framed out, a lot of it obviously depends upon the political scene at that particular point in time. So, lots of debate and a wild card there. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:25:50I can tell you from an advocacy standpoint, we remain very active in making sure that, you know, we're telling our story through the Federation of American Hospitals and our own lobbying activities, across our state, to make sure that everyone understands the importance of, you know, the affordability of the exchange business, to make sure we continue with some of the gains we've experienced over the last several years. Again, we, you know, can't quite size up what the risk is, but we're very, very involved in making sure that we're advocating for continuation of that type of funding. Ben HendrixVice President at RBC Capital00:26:24Thank you. Operator00:26:32Thank you. Our next question today comes from Steve Baxter with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead. Steve BaxterSenior Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo00:26:38Yeah. Hi, thanks. Two questions here. I guess, you know, first, it'd be great to hear you talk a little bit about the same-store growth and the volume and size we expect in the back half, and whether you expect, you know, surgical growth to be better, you know, as you kind of maybe go against the easier comps. And the second question, the other OpEx looks like it took a pretty big step up sequentially on a dollar basis. I would've thought that maybe could have been Medicaid supplemental payments, but then I'm not really seeing that in the revenue per AA. So just trying to understand what's driving up the other OpEx dollars, sequentially. Thank you. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:27:13Yeah. Let me start with the other OpEx dollars. So it was up approximately 130 basis points of net revenue. 100 basis points of that increase is related to the supplemental provider tax payments that were recorded this year. Of course, with those, we do get supplemental revenue, and we'll take an increase in provider tax payments, you know, with the additional revenue at any point. So, but that is what drove up that other operating expense line item. There is some timing differences, you know, as the provider tax payments do get separated from the revenue recognition. So that can be a little bit lumpy from quarter to quarter. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:28:07So it's not an exact, you know, one for one or two for one or what have you, but, but overall, the net revenue from those provider tax did flow through the net revenue line and is in there as well. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:28:20Steve, I'll touch on the volume, the same store volume growth. You know, with the key drivers for us, obviously the return on the investment for some of those growth projects we've been talking about, including our incremental beds in the Knoxville market and other, you know, bed expansions over the past several quarters in our key markets. We've called out really successful physician recruitment over the last couple of years. We're still ramping up those providers very successfully, which I think led to the strong clinic visits in the first and second quarters of this year, which we believe bodes well for procedural volumes in the latter half of the year. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:28:56We also had some really good improvements in capacity optimization, length of stay management, about a 5% improvement over prior-year quarter, which opened up more capacity. Putting all three of those things together, we have our transfer center that can then place more patients in our facilities. So we've got more specialty coverage, more capacity, and the ability to grow our inpatient and outpatient business from outlying markets. We had a really good ED admission quarter, good EMS volumes, strong growth in our rehab programs, our post-acute settings. And as we've already called out, we've had some benefit from the Two-Midnight Rule clarification, as well as the work of our physician advisors. So we believe the fundamentals are solid and something we can build upon in upcoming quarters. Operator00:29:46Thank you. Our next question today comes from Andrew Mok with Barclays. Please go ahead. Analyst at Barclays00:29:52Hi, this is Evan on for Andrew. A couple of your peers took up the acute admissions expectations for the back half of the year, and they alluded to structurally higher demand. Just curious to get your views on that and how it relates to your outlook. Thanks. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:30:09In terms of higher demand in the back half of the year, you know, I think we're seeing demand continue to come back into the healthcare system. Historically, you know, the back half of the year has been slightly better than the first half of the year, and I think our guidance kind of reflects that in terms of revenue and EBITDA being slightly better in the back half of the year, heavily weighted to Q4. And you know, as we've said kind of multiple times over the past quarter, I believe what returned first back into the system, kind of post some of the pandemic, was government insured patients. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:30:56Commercially insured patients were a little slower to come back in, primarily as a result of some of the inflationary trends and high deductibles and copays. I think the longer we get out or the longer those patients have been outside the system, you know, the more likely they are that they actually do come back, maybe with their conditions having- Analyst at Barclays00:31:20Mm-hmm. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:31:21gotten a little, even a little bit worse. But we're starting to see a pickup in visits and screenings and, you know, checkups, and all of that leads ultimately to higher acuity services down the line. And we're seeing, you know, a better balanced growth between commercial and government-insured patients than we saw in the early part of last year, and we do expect that to continue through the remainder of the year. Analyst at Barclays00:31:49Thanks. Operator00:31:53Thank you. And as a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star then one. Today's next question comes from Josh Raskin with Nephron Research. Please go ahead. Josh RaskinSenior Research Analyst at Nephron Research00:32:04Hi, thanks. Just quickly on the cash flow. I'm just curious if there were any timing issues in the quarter and maybe what specifically drove that increase in accounts payable? Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:32:15Thanks, Josh. You know, the big timing issue in the second quarter really relates to our annual payment of our 401 match. We make that just once a year. It's about a $65 million-$70 million payment. And then in the back half of the year, we start to recoup that as we continue to accrue for that match. It's a non-cash expense for the remainder of the year. So that's always a headwind in the second quarter for us. And so we do expect not only not to have that in the first quarter, it was annual bonus payments. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:32:58The accruals for both of those items will be helpful in the back half of the year, and then collections always, you know, are stronger in Q4, which leads to fourth quarter being, you know, typically our strongest cash flow quarter of the year. Josh RaskinSenior Research Analyst at Nephron Research00:33:16Gotcha, that makes sense. Then just on the volumes, you know, last quarter, I think inpatient sort of trended as a little bit stronger than outpatient, and that seemed to flip a little bit this quarter. Was there something specific that drove that? Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:33:31You know, I'd point to a couple things. We continue to make some inpatient capital investments. We opened up a new bed towers. I believe Tim has mentioned in his comments in Knoxville. That was opened in March. So that is, you know, helping drive, you know, more inpatient business. Some of our other higher acuity service lines that we've invested in, driving some of the inpatient. And then, you know, converting some of the observations to the short stay admissions is also helping on the inpatient side. But then we are also seeing, you know, good growth in outpatient. You know, our investments kind of vary market by market, depending on where we have capacity needs. We're investing on the inpatient side. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:34:24Where we have available capacity, we're making investments on the outpatient side. So we're pretty balanced there as I see it right now. We also have another inpatient tower opening up in the fourth quarter, in Foley, Alabama, which should also help drive some incremental inpatient business for us. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:34:46Yeah, Josh, this is Tim. I would describe our growth, you know, relatively balanced on the inpatient and outpatient side. There may be some slight fluctuations quarter to quarter, but we target our investments to grow both of those areas of business. I guess I would say in relative relation to each other. There is some variation by market, but the good, strong outpatient surgery growth that we've referenced earlier obviously was, you know, a specific area that we targeted over the last several years, including with our ambulatory surgery center investments with joint venture partnerships. So we've been really deliberate about making sure we're putting outpatient access where our consumers want it and need it, so that we can continue to capture more of the total share of spend in our markets. Josh RaskinSenior Research Analyst at Nephron Research00:35:32All right. Thanks so much. Operator00:35:35Thank you. This concludes today's question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Tim Hingtgen for any closing remarks. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:35:42Great. Thank you, Rocco, and thanks to all of you for joining our call today. As always, if you have additional questions, you can reach us at 615-465-7000. Have a great day. Operator00:35:55Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. We thank you all for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesAnton HieVP of Investor RelationsKevin HammonsPresident and CFOTim HingtgenCEOAnalystsA.J. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Hey, and welcome to the Community Health Systems Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. We do ask that you limit yourself to one question and a single follow-up. Please also note, today's event is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Anton Hie, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Anton HieVP of Investor Relations at Community Health Systems00:00:43Thank you, Rocco. Good morning, and welcome to Community Health Systems second quarter 2024 conference call. Joining me on today's call are Tim Hingtgen, Chief Executive Officer, and Kevin Hammons, President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I must remind everyone that this conference call may contain certain forward-looking statements, including all statements that do not relate solely to historical or current facts. These forward-looking statements are subject to a number of known and unknown risks, which are described in headings such as Risk Factors in our annual report on Form 10-K and other reports filed with or furnished to the SEC. Actual results may differ significantly from those expressed in any forward-looking statements in today's discussion. We do not intend to update any of these forward-looking statements. Anton HieVP of Investor Relations at Community Health Systems00:01:27Yesterday afternoon, we issued a press release with our financial statements and definitions and calculations of adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EPS. We've also posted a supplemental slide presentation on our website. All calculations we will discuss exclude impairment expense, as well as gains or losses on the sale of businesses, expense from government and other legal matters and related costs, expense from business transformation costs, expenses related to employee termination benefits, and other restructuring charges. With that said, I'll turn the call over to Tim Hingtgen, Chief Executive Officer. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:01:59Thanks, Anton. Good morning, and thank you for joining our second quarter conference call. At the midpoint of 2024, we are pleased with our progress, including a solid second quarter that produced both volume and earnings growth. In the second quarter, same-store net revenues increased 4.7% compared to the same period last year. Adjusted EBITDA for this quarter was $387 million, compared to $373 million in the second quarter of 2023. Same-store admissions improved 3%, adjusted admissions improved 3.2%, and surgeries were up 0.6%. About surgeries, I want to note that the second quarter increase is on top of a record surgery volume quarter for the company last year. So we were pleased to see same-store surgical volume reaching yet a new high in the second quarter this year. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:02:56This progress is driven in part by particularly strong outpatient case volumes, including in our ambulatory surgery centers, whose performance and results are complementary to their local affiliated CHS health systems. We also experienced generally strong outpatient volumes, including growth in emergency department visits, urgent care, and in physician practices. In addition to year-over-year same-store growth, we also achieved sequential improvements over the first quarter of 2024, and we expect to carry this momentum into the second half of the year. Much of our growth is attributable to the strategic investments made in our markets, which include ongoing physician recruitment and capital investments to expand access and capacity. We've invested more than $3 billion into our health systems since 2018, which includes new and replacement hospital facilities, bed and procedural space expansions, new technologies, and a wide spectrum of access points and outpatient services. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:04:00Earlier this year, we opened our new tower at Tennova North Knoxville, where performance is already exceeding initial expectations. A major expansion is underway in South Baldwin County, Alabama, which remains on track to open this year and will create incremental capacity and produce more growth in this rapidly growing market. Other recent openings include a freestanding emergency department in Huntsville, Alabama, which brings our company count to 18 freestanding EDs in total, several new physician practice locations, and investments to expand procedural space and services in multiple CHS hospitals. Regarding our portfolio, it has been widely reported that Novant Health ended its plans to acquire our North Carolina hospitals. That was an abrupt decision, but given the FTC's lawsuit, we were prepared for the possibility that the transaction would not be completed. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:04:56We rapidly deployed CHS resources to support our North Carolina team and to further evaluate our position and potential future opportunities in the market. That work is ongoing. The divestiture of our Cleveland, Tennessee hospital is on track and expected to be completed in the third quarter. Additional transactions are underway, and we continue to carefully review inbound interest related to other markets. We are very pleased with progress related to recruitment and retention of our workforce and the programs in place to support our teams. We hired nearly 3,000 registered nurses during the first half of 2024, and our nurse retention rate is very strong, at its highest level in a decade. Our centralized recruitment program has expanded to include allied health physicians in areas such as imaging, pharmacy, lab, respiratory, and surgical services. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:05:51Across these positions, hiring is up by more than 14% year-over-year. Other facets of cost management have been an area of strength this year, with contract labor, supplies, and other expenses turning down in the second quarter. Innovative solutions to improve care delivery and our business operations are another area of specific focus. During the second quarter, we announced an expanded partnership with Mark Cuban Cost Plus Drugs. All of our hospitals will now be able to purchase select drugs from the Cost Plus Drugs marketplace, initially resulting in $hundreds of thousands in savings and enabling the potential for even greater savings over time. On July first, we deployed the third wave of our affiliated health systems onto our enterprise resource planning platform. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:06:40The initiative, which we internally refer to as Project Empower, now supports more than half of our hospitals and will be fully deployed by the end of the year. This investment is yielding deeper insights into our business functions, and we expect to identify opportunities for additional standardization, expense management, and value creation as our experience with this enhanced operational tool matures. Our clinicians, caregivers, and local leadership teams are making a real and positive difference in every community we serve. On Tuesday, we released our 2024 Community Impact Report, and I hope you had the opportunity to take a look at it. We are so proud of the quality of care and the breadth of services we provide, and also what that means to our communities as we generate meaningful economic impact. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:07:30We are committed to causes that improve health and well-being, and we are powered by an amazing group of people who care deeply about others and who ensure that our purpose, to help people get well and live healthier, is always fulfilled. With that, Kevin, I'll turn the call over to you. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:07:45Thank you, Tim, and good morning, everyone. As Tim indicated, we were pleased with financial results as we delivered another quarter of steady improvement, which again, was consistent with our expectations and reflects strong execution by our operating teams in the solid demand environment in our markets. The momentum in volume growth that began last year continues, leading to same-store growth across all key metrics, including a 3% increase in admissions, a 3.2% increase in adjusted admissions, a 1.1% increase in emergency department visits, and a 0.6% increase in surgeries against the strong 6.2% surgical volume comp in the second quarter of 2023. Net operating revenues for the quarter were $3.14 billion, representing consolidated year-over-year growth of 0.8%. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:08:48On a same-store basis, net revenue increased 4.7%, in line with our target for mid-single digit growth for the year. The same-store top line growth was driven by the 3.2% increase in adjusted admissions, along with a 1.4% growth in net revenue per adjusted admission, which primarily reflected improved rates and incremental state Medicaid reimbursement, partly offset by geographic mix shift. While we continue to see some shifts from our Medicare fee-for-service business into Medicare Advantage in the second quarter, we were pleased to see solid commercial volumes, with same-store adjusted admissions growing in line with the Medicare Advantage book. Adjusted EBITDA for the second quarter was $387 million, compared with $373 million in the prior year period, and up slightly on a sequential basis, generally in line with our expectations. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:09:48Margin for the quarter was 12.3%, up from 12% in both the prior year period and sequentially, and consistent with our previous guidance for full year margin in the mid-12% range. This performance reflects strong cost controls as a result of our ongoing efforts to drive productivity and efficiency gains in the face of lingering inflationary pressures on labor, supplies, and other expense categories. We were again pleased with our performance on labor costs in the quarter. Average hourly wage rate was up 4% year over year, in line with our expectations for the full year 2024, and helped by improved productivity and reductions across premium pay categories. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:10:37We also continued to deliver improvement on contract labor spend, which was down approximately $30 million sequentially to $45 million, and down $29 million, or 39%, from $74 million in the second quarter of 2023. Note, this decrease in contract labor was slightly better than our expectation of contract labor remaining at approximately $50 million per quarter for the year. So we are pleased with the continued progress that reflects our recruitment and retention efforts, along with lower hourly rates for contracted nurses. On supplies expense, we delivered an 80 basis point reduction as a percent of consolidated net revenue, and same-store supplies expense per adjusted admission declined approximately 2% year-over-year. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:11:31We were particularly pleased to see outperformance in the hospitals where we have implemented new technology and workflows as part of Project Empower, which is providing better insight into procurement savings opportunities that we believe will continue to grow. Medical specialist fees were up slightly, sequentially, and increased approximately 5% from the prior year period, consistent with our expectation for a 5%-10% increase for the full year. We've been pleased with the progress of our hospital-based provider insourcing initiative since taking over operations from the former APP nearly a year ago and continue to evaluate further insourcing opportunities. Provider and other business taxes increased $25 million compared to the prior year quarter, primarily as a result of increases in Medicaid supplemental programs. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:12:28Cash flows from operations were $101 million for the second quarter of 2024, compared with $86 million in the year-ago period. The year-over-year improvement in cash flow primarily reflects improved earnings performance, as well as lower cash payments for interest and improved working capital, improved cash from working capital, including accounts receivable, offset by higher cash tax payments. Capital expenditures for the second quarter of 2024 were $88 million, and for the first half were $181 million, on track for our 2024 guidance range of $350 million-$400 million. The divestiture of Tennova Cleveland remains on track to close in the third quarter, with estimated proceeds of approximately $160 million, plus additional contingent consideration. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:13:25We believe that one or more additional transactions could close within the calendar year, providing substantial capital for the company to redeploy. As we have previously discussed, we estimate combined potential proceeds of more than $1 billion through a handful of transactions that are in various stages of evaluation or negotiation. In May, we priced an upsized tack-on offering of an additional $1.225 billion of our 10 7/8% senior secured notes due 2032, using proceeds and cash on hand to redeem all of our $1.116 billion of remaining 8% senior secured notes due 2026, and to extinguish $130 million principal amount of 2028 notes for $98 million in cash. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:14:19By capturing this discount, these transactions resulted in a combined pre-tax gain from early extinguishment of debt of approximately $26 million during the quarter. The net interest impact of this transaction is an increase of approximately $35 million on an annual basis, but given the timing of completion, the net effect on cash interest in calendar 2024 is minimal. Additionally, in June, we amended and extended our revolving asset-based loan facility, extending the maturity of our $1 billion ABL from November of 2026 to June of 2029. At quarter end, net debt to trailing Adjusted EBITDA was 7.6 times, slightly improved from the 7.7 times last quarter and 7.9 times at the end of 2023. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:15:16We believe we have more than adequate liquidity to meet our needs going forward, with approximately $600 million of borrowing capacity under the ABL, along with the pending asset sale proceeds. Let me pivot and provide a brief update on Project Empower. We recently completed our third wave of deployments, implementing our new financial and supply chain systems and workflows at 25 additional hospitals and related businesses. We now have Oracle business systems running in 47 hospitals, and we are on track to complete our rollout by January first of 2025. With the first six months of 2024 in the books, we are tightening our guidance range for the full year and slightly increasing the midpoint to reflect our increased confidence. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:16:04Specifically, we now anticipate 2024 Adjusted EBITDA of $1.52 billion-$1.6 billion, which, consistent with prior guidance, does not include any contribution from potential new supplemental payment programs, nor does it assume any unannounced divestiture activity. While we are not providing formal quarterly guidance, I would remind everyone on the call that the third quarter is traditionally the softest quarter of the year from an earnings perspective due to seasonal factors, including heightened vacation activity among both patients and physicians. Consistent with typical patterns, we expect the fourth quarter to be our strongest quarter of the year from an EBITDA and cash flow perspective. At this time, we'll turn the call back over to the operator for Q&A. Operator00:16:59Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, we ask that you please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you'd like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. We do ask that you limit yourself to one question and a single follow-up. Today's first question comes from Brian Tanquilut with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Brian TanquilutSenior Equity Research Analyst at Jefferies00:17:30Hey, good morning, guys, and congrats on the quarter. Maybe, Tim, my first question, as I think about, you know, your comments on Novant and Kevin's comments about, you know, still kind of like that billion-dollar goal of divestitures this year, how are you thinking about, you know, kind of the visibility into asset sales or your ability in your mind, given the FTC's objection to the Novant deal, to be able to announce further divestiture opportunities over the course of this year? Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:18:02Sure, Brian, let me take that. So, you know, with the Novant deal, obviously Novant was kind of a you know, in-state provider. What we're seeing, particularly in many of the other opportunities for divestitures, is the group of buyers is changing. Many of both for-profit, non-for-profit healthcare systems are looking outside of their traditional area of service to expand. The FTC, I think, has been, you know, somewhat of an issue for transactions now for a few years. As I look at the remaining opportunities and current deals that we're negotiating right now, the buyers are all, you know, out of market, typically out of state. Similar with the Cleveland, Tennessee deal that we've already announced, the buyer is a nonprofit based in Georgia. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:19:02And so we really don't see any headwinds of being able to complete the other deals that we're currently working on. Brian TanquilutSenior Equity Research Analyst at Jefferies00:19:12Got it. Okay, and then any, Kevin, we're getting a lot of questions on trying to size the potential opportunity or tailwind from the DPP payments, New Mexico and Tennessee. I know you haven't really given the quantification of that, but any comment you can make to help us try to frame the benefit from those things? Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:19:34Sure. We've been a little hesitant to be out there, given that these programs are not yet approved by CMS, and in fact, New Mexico has not yet been submitted by the state's CMS. So what I would say is, we do believe these programs are material to us, but until we get, you know, a little more clarity in terms of what's going to be approved, and in what form, we're just a little hesitant to go out there with any quantification. But that said, we do believe that they'll be materially beneficial to us. Brian TanquilutSenior Equity Research Analyst at Jefferies00:20:12Got it. Understand. Thank you. Operator00:20:16Thank you. Our next question today comes from A.J. Rice at UBS. Please go ahead. A.J. RiceManaging Director of Equity Research at UBS00:20:23Thanks. Hi, everybody. A lot of discussion this quarter about public exchange volumes, how that's helping year to year, what percentage of total it is, as well as also the Two-Midnight Rule. Do you have any thoughts you can give us on how that's impacted your results, this quarter? Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:20:44Sure, A.J. We have certainly seen a decrease in observations and an increase in kind of short stay admissions. Now, you know, we attribute a significant portion of that to the work that we've done internally with our physician advisor group that's helping us qualify those short stays for admissions. And I would say in terms of behavior from the payers, we're still seeing, you know, pretty significant amount of denials and downgrades coming, you know, from the payers. But all that said, we have made progress in reducing the number of observations, increasing short stays that we believe is beneficial. In terms of exchange business and maybe related to redetermination, we have seen a decrease in the volume of Medicaid patients. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:21:45But likewise, you know, we've seen an increase in commercial business. Now, we don't have complete line of sight, when a patient comes in with, you know, an exchange, insurance, maybe versus a regular Blue Cross commercial insurance. But as we look over across our, you know, portfolio, and we see the decrease in Medicaid, with an offsetting increase in commercial, we believe that substantially most of that business is getting picked up, by commercial. We're not seeing a similar increase in self-pay. So, we're not losing it to the uninsured, but probably picking it up is commercial or exchange business. I would think that, you know, we look a lot like national averages, in terms of, of where we are in, in the exchange business. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:22:43We have benefited by being in states like Florida and Texas, that have had some of the highest exchange business enrollment. So, that's been beneficial for us. A.J. RiceManaging Director of Equity Research at UBS00:22:55Okay. Maybe to follow up- Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:22:59Maybe last point I'd make on that, there is a pretty wide variation from market to market with exchange penetration. A.J. RiceManaging Director of Equity Research at UBS00:23:07Oh, interesting. Just a follow-up question. You mentioned increased or continuing payer scrutiny on the observation status case. I wonder, to broaden that out, you know, there's been this discussion about the labor impact and maybe getting some of that in the rates. Are you still seeing that in your managed care rates? You're getting a little help catch up on labor and broader than just Two-Midnight Rule, how about just utilization review activity? I know some of that got eased up with the Change Healthcare cyberattack. Is that all back to normal at this point? Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:23:47Yes, so in terms of rates, our reimbursement or new contracted rates are coming in for next year, pretty similar to where they came in this past year, probably the last two years. So I still believe that some of the incremental labor cost is flowing through. The rate increases we're getting are still about 100 basis points above what we had seen traditionally and, you know, look a lot like what they looked like coming into 2024. In terms of Change Healthcare, you know, we did not experience a significant disruption related to Change. So that, you know, I would say, has kind of worked its way through, and we don't have any real lingering impacts from that. A.J. RiceManaging Director of Equity Research at UBS00:24:43Okay. Thanks a lot. Operator00:24:47Thank you. Our next question today comes from Ben Hendrix at RBC Capital. Please go ahead. Ben HendrixVice President at RBC Capital00:24:54Thank you very much. Just a quick question to follow up on the growth you've seen on the exchange side. Been a lot of questions about the fate of the enhanced subsidies in 2026. Wanted to get your thoughts on the impact you've seen from that contribution to growth and exchange volume, and then what you think the levers are for maintaining, maybe retaining some of that coverage, assuming that we do see a kind of a roll off of those enhanced subsidies beyond 2025. Thanks. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:25:29Sure Dan, this is Tim. I'll take that one, and Kevin, feel free to weigh in. In terms of the look forward for the expiration of some of those enhanced subsidies in 2026, as you framed out, a lot of it obviously depends upon the political scene at that particular point in time. So, lots of debate and a wild card there. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:25:50I can tell you from an advocacy standpoint, we remain very active in making sure that, you know, we're telling our story through the Federation of American Hospitals and our own lobbying activities, across our state, to make sure that everyone understands the importance of, you know, the affordability of the exchange business, to make sure we continue with some of the gains we've experienced over the last several years. Again, we, you know, can't quite size up what the risk is, but we're very, very involved in making sure that we're advocating for continuation of that type of funding. Ben HendrixVice President at RBC Capital00:26:24Thank you. Operator00:26:32Thank you. Our next question today comes from Steve Baxter with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead. Steve BaxterSenior Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo00:26:38Yeah. Hi, thanks. Two questions here. I guess, you know, first, it'd be great to hear you talk a little bit about the same-store growth and the volume and size we expect in the back half, and whether you expect, you know, surgical growth to be better, you know, as you kind of maybe go against the easier comps. And the second question, the other OpEx looks like it took a pretty big step up sequentially on a dollar basis. I would've thought that maybe could have been Medicaid supplemental payments, but then I'm not really seeing that in the revenue per AA. So just trying to understand what's driving up the other OpEx dollars, sequentially. Thank you. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:27:13Yeah. Let me start with the other OpEx dollars. So it was up approximately 130 basis points of net revenue. 100 basis points of that increase is related to the supplemental provider tax payments that were recorded this year. Of course, with those, we do get supplemental revenue, and we'll take an increase in provider tax payments, you know, with the additional revenue at any point. So, but that is what drove up that other operating expense line item. There is some timing differences, you know, as the provider tax payments do get separated from the revenue recognition. So that can be a little bit lumpy from quarter to quarter. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:28:07So it's not an exact, you know, one for one or two for one or what have you, but, but overall, the net revenue from those provider tax did flow through the net revenue line and is in there as well. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:28:20Steve, I'll touch on the volume, the same store volume growth. You know, with the key drivers for us, obviously the return on the investment for some of those growth projects we've been talking about, including our incremental beds in the Knoxville market and other, you know, bed expansions over the past several quarters in our key markets. We've called out really successful physician recruitment over the last couple of years. We're still ramping up those providers very successfully, which I think led to the strong clinic visits in the first and second quarters of this year, which we believe bodes well for procedural volumes in the latter half of the year. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:28:56We also had some really good improvements in capacity optimization, length of stay management, about a 5% improvement over prior-year quarter, which opened up more capacity. Putting all three of those things together, we have our transfer center that can then place more patients in our facilities. So we've got more specialty coverage, more capacity, and the ability to grow our inpatient and outpatient business from outlying markets. We had a really good ED admission quarter, good EMS volumes, strong growth in our rehab programs, our post-acute settings. And as we've already called out, we've had some benefit from the Two-Midnight Rule clarification, as well as the work of our physician advisors. So we believe the fundamentals are solid and something we can build upon in upcoming quarters. Operator00:29:46Thank you. Our next question today comes from Andrew Mok with Barclays. Please go ahead. Analyst at Barclays00:29:52Hi, this is Evan on for Andrew. A couple of your peers took up the acute admissions expectations for the back half of the year, and they alluded to structurally higher demand. Just curious to get your views on that and how it relates to your outlook. Thanks. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:30:09In terms of higher demand in the back half of the year, you know, I think we're seeing demand continue to come back into the healthcare system. Historically, you know, the back half of the year has been slightly better than the first half of the year, and I think our guidance kind of reflects that in terms of revenue and EBITDA being slightly better in the back half of the year, heavily weighted to Q4. And you know, as we've said kind of multiple times over the past quarter, I believe what returned first back into the system, kind of post some of the pandemic, was government insured patients. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:30:56Commercially insured patients were a little slower to come back in, primarily as a result of some of the inflationary trends and high deductibles and copays. I think the longer we get out or the longer those patients have been outside the system, you know, the more likely they are that they actually do come back, maybe with their conditions having- Analyst at Barclays00:31:20Mm-hmm. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:31:21gotten a little, even a little bit worse. But we're starting to see a pickup in visits and screenings and, you know, checkups, and all of that leads ultimately to higher acuity services down the line. And we're seeing, you know, a better balanced growth between commercial and government-insured patients than we saw in the early part of last year, and we do expect that to continue through the remainder of the year. Analyst at Barclays00:31:49Thanks. Operator00:31:53Thank you. And as a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star then one. Today's next question comes from Josh Raskin with Nephron Research. Please go ahead. Josh RaskinSenior Research Analyst at Nephron Research00:32:04Hi, thanks. Just quickly on the cash flow. I'm just curious if there were any timing issues in the quarter and maybe what specifically drove that increase in accounts payable? Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:32:15Thanks, Josh. You know, the big timing issue in the second quarter really relates to our annual payment of our 401 match. We make that just once a year. It's about a $65 million-$70 million payment. And then in the back half of the year, we start to recoup that as we continue to accrue for that match. It's a non-cash expense for the remainder of the year. So that's always a headwind in the second quarter for us. And so we do expect not only not to have that in the first quarter, it was annual bonus payments. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:32:58The accruals for both of those items will be helpful in the back half of the year, and then collections always, you know, are stronger in Q4, which leads to fourth quarter being, you know, typically our strongest cash flow quarter of the year. Josh RaskinSenior Research Analyst at Nephron Research00:33:16Gotcha, that makes sense. Then just on the volumes, you know, last quarter, I think inpatient sort of trended as a little bit stronger than outpatient, and that seemed to flip a little bit this quarter. Was there something specific that drove that? Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:33:31You know, I'd point to a couple things. We continue to make some inpatient capital investments. We opened up a new bed towers. I believe Tim has mentioned in his comments in Knoxville. That was opened in March. So that is, you know, helping drive, you know, more inpatient business. Some of our other higher acuity service lines that we've invested in, driving some of the inpatient. And then, you know, converting some of the observations to the short stay admissions is also helping on the inpatient side. But then we are also seeing, you know, good growth in outpatient. You know, our investments kind of vary market by market, depending on where we have capacity needs. We're investing on the inpatient side. Kevin HammonsPresident and CFO at Community Health Systems00:34:24Where we have available capacity, we're making investments on the outpatient side. So we're pretty balanced there as I see it right now. We also have another inpatient tower opening up in the fourth quarter, in Foley, Alabama, which should also help drive some incremental inpatient business for us. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:34:46Yeah, Josh, this is Tim. I would describe our growth, you know, relatively balanced on the inpatient and outpatient side. There may be some slight fluctuations quarter to quarter, but we target our investments to grow both of those areas of business. I guess I would say in relative relation to each other. There is some variation by market, but the good, strong outpatient surgery growth that we've referenced earlier obviously was, you know, a specific area that we targeted over the last several years, including with our ambulatory surgery center investments with joint venture partnerships. So we've been really deliberate about making sure we're putting outpatient access where our consumers want it and need it, so that we can continue to capture more of the total share of spend in our markets. Josh RaskinSenior Research Analyst at Nephron Research00:35:32All right. Thanks so much. Operator00:35:35Thank you. This concludes today's question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Tim Hingtgen for any closing remarks. Tim HingtgenCEO at Community Health Systems00:35:42Great. Thank you, Rocco, and thanks to all of you for joining our call today. As always, if you have additional questions, you can reach us at 615-465-7000. Have a great day. Operator00:35:55Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. We thank you all for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesAnton HieVP of Investor RelationsKevin HammonsPresident and CFOTim HingtgenCEOAnalystsA.J. RiceManaging Director of Equity Research at UBSBen HendrixVice President at RBC CapitalBrian TanquilutSenior Equity Research Analyst at JefferiesJosh RaskinSenior Research Analyst at Nephron ResearchSteve BaxterSenior Equity Research Analyst at Wells FargoAnalyst at BarclaysPowered by