TSE:CRT.UN CT Real Estate Investment Trust Q2 2024 Earnings Report C$17.56 +0.10 (+0.57%) As of 11:02 AM Eastern ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast CT Real Estate Investment Trust EPS ResultsActual EPSC$0.35Consensus EPS C$0.33Beat/MissBeat by +C$0.02One Year Ago EPSN/ACT Real Estate Investment Trust Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$144.44 millionExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/ACT Real Estate Investment Trust Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/1/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateFriday, August 2, 2024Conference Call Time9:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckInterim ReportEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by CT Real Estate Investment Trust Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 2, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways NOI rose 4.4% year-over-year and adjusted funds from operations per unit increased 3.6% in Q2 2024, reflecting strong cash‐flow growth. The REIT raised its monthly distribution for the 11th time since its 2013 IPO, achieving a 5-year CAGR of 4.1% while keeping the payout ratio just above 70%. Despite a slow market, C.T. REIT acquired a Canadian Tire-anchored property in Nanaimo, BC for $45.2 million at a 6% yield and sold a Chilliwack, BC asset above its IFRS value. Its development pipeline now includes 19 projects with $283 million committed, set to add 715,000 sq ft (94% pre-leased) by 2026, supporting future growth. The balance sheet remains robust with interest coverage of 3.59×, an indebtedness ratio of 40.9% within target, $31 million of cash on hand and $597 million in available credit. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallCT Real Estate Investment Trust Q2 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning. My name is Gigi, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to CT REIT's Q2 2024 Earnings Results Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during that time, simply press star one one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star one one. The speakers on the call today are Kevin Salsberg, President and Chief Executive Officer of CT REIT; Jodi Shpigel, Senior Vice President, Real Estate; and Lesley Gibson, Chief Financial Officer. Today's discussions may include forward-looking statements. Such statements are based on management's assumptions and beliefs. These forward-looking statements are subject to uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from such statements. Operator00:01:01Please see CT REIT's public filings for a discussion of these risk factors, which are included in their 2023 Management's Discussion and Analysis and 2023 Annual Information Form, which can be found on CT REIT's website and on SEDAR+. I will now turn the call over to Kevin Salsberg, President and Chief Executive Officer of CT REIT. Kevin? Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:01:28Thank you, Gigi. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to CT REIT's second quarter investor conference call. Despite a challenging economic backdrop, CT REIT continues to perform well, and I am pleased with our results again this quarter, as NOI and AFFO per unit increased by 4.4% and 3.6%, respectively. Our track record and ability to grow cash flow on a per unit basis has allowed us to raise our distributions 11 times since our IPO in 2013, with the most recent increase in distribution payments being enjoyed by our investors starting last month. Including this latest increase, our compound annual growth rate in distributions over the last five years is 4.1%, and we have achieved this growth while managing to improve our payout ratio to its current level at just over 70%. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:02:22I am also pleased that notwithstanding a very slow property transaction market, we continue to be able to source strategic opportunities to grow our portfolio of net lease assets. We were happy to announce in our Q2 release that we acquired a Canadian Tire-anchored property in a very strong market with high barriers to entry on Vancouver Island in the province of British Columbia. Additionally, we sold a former Canadian Tire-anchored property in Chilliwack, BC, in Q2 to an end user at a price well above our IFRS value for the asset. Although our hope is that the recent moves by the Bank of Canada to continue to lower interest rates will spur additional market activity and deal velocity, we continue to manage our portfolio for the future and prudently seek out avenues for growth. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:03:11As it relates to our balance sheet, we completed the previously announced rate reset on our Series 4 Class C LP units with Canadian Tire in the quarter, and continued to buy back units under our NCIB program, taking advantage of the fact that we were trading well below our net asset value. Finally, I am pleased to share that we recently released our third annual ESG report, detailing our efforts and achievements from 2023. The report is available for download on our website, and I encourage you to take a read, as we are proud of the progress that we continue to make along our ESG journey. I will now turn the call over to Jodi and Lesley to provide some additional details on the quarter, our results, and our investment, leasing, and development activities. Jodi? Jodi ShpigelSVP of Real Estate at CT REIT00:03:54Thanks, Kevin, and good morning, everyone. As highlighted in our press release yesterday, we were pleased to announce one new investment this quarter. This new investment relates to the acquisition of a property with a Canadian Tire store and a Mark's store in Nanaimo, British Columbia. This investment of CAD 45.2 million, with a going-in yield of 6%, will add 141,000 sq ft of incremental GLA to the portfolio. As Kevin has already highlighted, in Q2, CT REIT has also sold a former Canadian Tire property in Chilliwack, BC, for CAD 19 million and completed the previously announced intensification of a Canadian Tire store in Granby, Quebec. The total investment required for the Canadian Tire store expansion was CAD 7.6 million, and this project added 27,000 sq ft of incremental GLA to the portfolio. Jodi ShpigelSVP of Real Estate at CT REIT00:04:50Building on the progress made in 2023, the REIT currently has 19 projects at various stages of development, with two of these expected to be completed this year and with the remaining projects expected to be completed in 2025 and 2026. These developments represent a total committed investment of approximately CAD 283 million upon completion, CAD 98 million of which has already been spent, and CAD 85 million of which we anticipate will be spent in the next twelve months. Once built, these projects will add a total incremental GLA of approximately 715,000 sq ft to the portfolio, nearly 94% of which has been pre-leased at quarter end. During the quarter, we extended three Canadian Tire store leases, as well as approximately 98,000 sq ft of non-Canadian Tire tenancies, and our occupancy rate is now at 99.4%. Jodi ShpigelSVP of Real Estate at CT REIT00:05:46As at the end of Q2, the weighted average lease term for our portfolio was 8.0 years, which remains one of the longest in the sector. With that, I will turn it over to Lesley to discuss our financial results. Lesley? Lesley GibsonCFO at CT REIT00:05:59Thanks, Jodi, and good morning, everyone. As Kevin highlighted, we were pleased with the strong results delivered by the REIT again this quarter. Lesley GibsonCFO at CT REIT00:06:07... Same-store NOI grew by 1.0% or CAD 1.1 million. Drivers of the same-store NOI increase were contractual rent escalations of CAD 1.8 million, primarily being the 1.5% average annual rent escalations, including the Canadian Tire leases, partially offset by lower recovery of capital expenditures, which reduced NOI by CAD 600,000 in the quarter. Primarily as a result of the final billings completed in Q2 2023, which contributed over CAD 1 million, excluding which our same property NOI would have been 2.2%, which is more in line with our historic average. Same property NOI grew by 1.9% or CAD 2 million compared to the prior year. This increase was primarily due to the increase in the same-store NOI noted, as well as from the intensifications completed in 2023 and 2024. Lesley GibsonCFO at CT REIT00:07:02Overall, in the second quarter, NOI grew by a healthy 4.4% or CAD 4.8 million, driven by the increase in the same property NOI, the completion of development projects in 2023, and from lease surrender revenue, which contributed approximately CAD 1 million. In the second quarter, excluding fair value adjustments, G&A expense as a percentage of property revenue was 2.8%, which was lower than the same period in the prior year, 3.1%. This decrease was primarily due to the timing of the deferred income tax provision, amounting to CAD 525,000, which is expected to reverse over the balance of the year. Lesley GibsonCFO at CT REIT00:07:39The fair value adjustment of CAD 22.9 million in the quarter was driven by a combination of contractual rent increases and the leasing activity within the portfolio during the period, as well as a gain from the disposition of a property which accounted for about half of the quarter's fair value increase. Investment metrics for the portfolio remained unchanged relative to Q1 2024. In the quarter, diluted FFO per unit was up 2.1% to CAD 0.337, compared to CAD 0.330 in the second quarter of 2023. This growth can be primarily attributed to the intensifications and developments completed during 2023 and 2024, the contractual rent escalations in our Canadian Tire leases, and the previously mentioned surrender revenue, partially offset by higher interest costs. Lesley GibsonCFO at CT REIT00:08:28Growth in AFFO per unit on a diluted basis was strong for the same reasons, coming in at CAD 0.315, up 3.6% compared to Q2 of 2023. Cash distributions paid in the quarter increased 3.5% compared to the same period in the previous year, due to the increases in the monthly cash distribution paid in July 2023. As announced last quarter, we, for the eleventh time in as many years, declared a further increase to our distributions of 3%, which was effective for the cash distribution payment made on July fifteenth. This represents a cumulative increase of 42.3% since our IPO in 2013. The AFFO payout ratio for Q2 was 71.4%, which was unchanged from the same period last year. Lesley GibsonCFO at CT REIT00:09:16In Q2 2024, we continued repurchasing our units through the NCIB facility, buying back approximately 8.4 million units at an average price of CAD 13.37 per unit, which is below their intrinsic value. Now, turning to the balance sheet. Our interest coverage was 3.59 times for the current quarter, compared to 3.74 times for the comparable quarter of 2023, with the decrease mainly driven by the increase in interest expense and other financing charges, outpacing the growth in EBIT fair value. The indebtedness to the EBIT fair value ratio improved to 6.59 times, down from 6.83 times in Q2 of 2023, primarily because of the growth in EBIT fair value outpacing the slight increase in indebtedness. Lesley GibsonCFO at CT REIT00:10:02Our indebtedness ratio was up slightly to 40.9% from 39.9% in the same quarter of last year, due to the issuance of the Series I Senior Unsecured Debentures, partially offset by an increase in fair value on investment properties. Our indebtedness ratio continues to be within our target range, and considering the current macroeconomic backdrop and interest rate environment, we're pleased with the strength of the balance sheet. Lastly, with respect to liquidity, we ended Q2 with CAD 31 million of cash on hand and CAD 297 million remains available through our committed credit facility. A further CAD 300 million is available in our uncommitted facility with Canadian Tire Corporation. And with that, I'll turn the call back to the operator for any questions. Operator00:10:46Thank you. At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, please press star then one, one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, press star then one, one again. We'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Lorne Kalmar from Desjardins. Lorne KalmarVP of Equity Research Analyst at Desjardins Capital Markets00:11:14Thanks, and happy Friday, everybody. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:11:18Morning. Lorne KalmarVP of Equity Research Analyst at Desjardins Capital Markets00:11:19Good morning. Just first on the dispositions. I haven't been covering you guys for that long, but I believe this is not typical. Is this something we can expect more of going forward? And maybe you can give us a little bit of an idea of what the genesis of the transaction was. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:11:39I would say broadly, no, I wouldn't expect a lot more of that in the future. I mean, typically, our preference, you know, in this instance, where Canadian Tire had relocated from the site, would be to redevelop it and try to create incremental value. This particular location, strong retail node, Chilliwack, in the, you Lower Mainland, in British Columbia, really strong site. We had an end user who came along and made us a very compelling offer. Canadian Tire still had some lease term with us, couple of the strong offer with a lease surrender buyout arrangement. And the financials were just, I guess, too compelling to hold on to the asset. So, we have made the decision to sell it. Lorne KalmarVP of Equity Research Analyst at Desjardins Capital Markets00:12:31Fair enough. And that kind of dovetails my next question: Is the lease term income related to the disposition? Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:12:39It's not related to the disposition in that it wasn't, you know, directly tied to the purchase agreement, but the end user did want vacant possession, so indirectly, yes. Lorne KalmarVP of Equity Research Analyst at Desjardins Capital Markets00:12:50Okay, fair enough. And then maybe just last one from me. I know kind of the last few quarters have benefited from the higher rate on the recovery of the capital expenditures. And you know, with rates coming off, is it sort of fair to expect maybe a below typical same asset NOI, same asset NOI growth profile for the next few quarters? Lesley GibsonCFO at CT REIT00:13:17Lorne, Lesley, this quarter was maybe a little bit tough, tougher one to comp over because of some final billings in the prior quarter. You know, obviously, the rates have come down and are coming down, and we will expect that. So we will be comping off a little bit of low interest expense, but I think the bigger delta quarter-over-quarter this year is some final billings that were done in Q2 of 2023. The interest change in the rate will be perhaps, I think, a little bit more modest going through the other quarters as it's only going down another quarter point. Lorne KalmarVP of Equity Research Analyst at Desjardins Capital Markets00:13:51Okay. Thank you very much. I will turn it back. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:13:54Thank you. Operator00:13:56Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Pammi Bir from RBC Capital Markets. Pammi BirManaging Director of Real Estate and REITs Analyst at RBC Capital Markets00:14:08Thanks. Good morning. I wanted to come back to the BC acquisition. Can you maybe provide a little more color on that one? And just given maybe a bit more of a favorable rate environment, I'm curious if you're starting to see some more attractive opportunities start to shake loose from third parties. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:14:27Sure, Pammi. I'll take that, and good morning. Off-market deal, this was a relationship we had with the existing or the vendor, I guess. And we had been in discussions for some time. It was part of a larger asset that is part of a broader redevelopment scheme that they're contemplating. And this component of the property was more stabilized. So, yeah, lots of discussions. We've been in, I guess, negotiations and under contract for some time as it did require a subdivision. So this is something that we had in the pipeline for, I guess, an extended period of time. But, you know, very happy to be transacting, one, in BC, and two, on Vancouver Island. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:15:15Obviously, tough to come by assets at pricing that we feel is compelling there. So we thought the financial parameters of the deal were attractive for us. And certainly repatriating Canadian Tire stores fits squarely within our strategic plans. In terms of the broader market, haven't seen really much movement in the way of pricing or additional volume. I would say marketed transactions right now seem light to me by comparison, at least specifically for retail assets. You know, Q1 was very light in terms of investment volumes. And I think you're seeing that reflected in our fair value assessment for the quarter, where we essentially just held things flat. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:16:05You know, could these recent moves by the Bank of Canada give buyers and sellers a little bit more confidence that it's time to start moving the needle on both exchanging assets and pricing? Entirely possible, but I think, you know, we'll have to see how the rest of the year shapes up, and what you know, what we might see in the market. Pammi BirManaging Director of Real Estate and REITs Analyst at RBC Capital Markets00:16:31Got it. No, that's, it's, that's helpful color. Just on maybe one more on that acquisition. What's the term left on the Canadian Tire lease, or I guess, the mix of leases from the Canadian Tire banners in there? And, I guess, if it's... Would there be any changes, I guess, to maybe reflect leases that are more similar to the CT REIT portfolio? Lesley GibsonCFO at CT REIT00:16:57Good morning. So, in terms of the lease term, there's many, many years with options left on this term. It goes for an extended period of time, and so that was another part of the reason why it was compelling for us to purchase. We do have a lot of lease term left on this asset- Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:17:12I think. Lesley GibsonCFO at CT REIT00:17:12Between the Canadian Tire and the Mark's. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:17:14Yeah, I think the Canadian Tire is north of, north of 10 years, for sure. Lesley GibsonCFO at CT REIT00:17:17Oh, yeah, it is definitely north of 10 years, with options after that. Pammi BirManaging Director of Real Estate and REITs Analyst at RBC Capital Markets00:17:21Got it. And just on the, on the development pipeline, it seems to be holding steady. I guess, you know, one, one expansion was, was done in a quarter, but, you know, as you think about maybe the next year or so, how do you see that unfolding? I'm just curious if maybe, you know, any chance it starts to expand again or, or any-- or possibly on the other side, maybe projects getting pushed back at all. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:17:46So the project delays have sort of already been baked in. I mean, I think that's what we've seen over the last few quarters. The current pipeline at about 715,000 sq ft, CAD 280-ish million, is pretty close to our historic average run rate. So we're happy with the pipeline. I think, you know, in terms of monies to be spent, call it over the next 12 months versus the back part of it, probably a little bit more weighted to the back part right now. I think the number was CAD 85 million that we intend to spend in the next year. And there's been about CAD 95 million spent to date, so call it a little over a hundred for the back part of the development pipeline horizon. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:18:28You know, the pace of new projects has certainly slowed. I think, you know, again, dovetails between two things. One, Canadian Tire's intention, and I think they're still of the firm belief that investing in the retail bricks and mortar network is core to their strategy. Certainly, you know, the last couple of quarters have been a little tougher for them than, say, 2022, 2023. So I think that's playing into the slower pace. And then, you know, the interest rate story and our ability to fund, you know, those projects accretively, which also dovetails into the cost to build these stores. So all that's playing together to say, slow that pace. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:19:10But I do think, at the appropriate time, we'll have additional projects that we revisit, and we'll be working with Canadian Tire closely on our joint ability to move those forward. Pammi BirManaging Director of Real Estate and REITs Analyst at RBC Capital Markets00:19:25Got it. That's, that's helpful. Thanks very much, Kevin. I'll, I'll turn it back. Operator00:19:31Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Sam Damiani from TD Cowen. Sam DamianiEquity Research Analyst at TD Cowen00:19:41Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:19:43Good morning. Sam DamianiEquity Research Analyst at TD Cowen00:19:43Just wanted to really just touch on renewal leasing spreads. I didn't catch that, and most of my other questions were asked. So yeah, just on the third party and the CTC leases that were extended, I wonder if you could just provide some color on the spreads that you experienced in the quarter versus the prior history. Jodi ShpigelSVP of Real Estate at CT REIT00:20:06Morning, Sam, it's Jodi. So total renewals this quarter, including the CT stores, were approximately 300,000 sq ft, so about 1% of the portfolio. That includes, obviously, the combination of fixed and market renewals. The three Canadian Tire stores that renewed this quarter were at the 1.5%. Pretty typical, as you know, for the CT renewals. In terms of the non-Canadian Tire renewals, those were in the high single digits, so we're pleased with that in terms of the spread. So I'd say pretty normal quarter, and in terms of volume and renewal rates. Sam DamianiEquity Research Analyst at TD Cowen00:20:44That's great, Jodi. And just, I guess, just sort of, generally in the market today, I mean, I think it was double digits last quarter, high single digits this quarter. I mean, is that a reflection of any change in the market or just a different mix of leases that were transacted this quarter? I mean, what's your sense on the overall leasing environment now versus three, six months ago? The same, better, worse? Jodi ShpigelSVP of Real Estate at CT REIT00:21:08I'd say, again, I'd say pretty normal. It's in this quarter, I think we just had a higher amount of fixed renewals versus market renewals, so that's why high singles versus low double digits, but pretty much on trend with what we would expect. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:21:21And although the market renewal piece was probably smaller this quarter than in past, that was done pretty much around that 10% spread number. So kind of similar to the past experience there, where we had a little bit more pricing power. Sam DamianiEquity Research Analyst at TD Cowen00:21:39That's great. Thank you very much, and I'll turn it back. Operator00:21:43Thank you. As a reminder to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. As there are no further questions at this time, I will turn the call over to Kevin Salsberg, President and CEO, for closing remarks. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:22:11Thank you, Gigi, and thank you all for joining us today. We look forward to speaking with you again in November after we release our Q3 results, and I hope everybody has a great long weekend. Operator00:22:22This concludes today's call. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning. My name is Gigi, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to CT REIT's Q2 2024 Earnings Results Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during that time, simply press star one one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star one one. The speakers on the call today are Kevin Salsberg, President and Chief Executive Officer of CT REIT; Jodi Shpigel, Senior Vice President, Real Estate; and Lesley Gibson, Chief Financial Officer. Today's discussions may include forward-looking statements. Such statements are based on management's assumptions and beliefs. These forward-looking statements are subject to uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from such statements. Operator00:01:01Please see CT REIT's public filings for a discussion of these risk factors, which are included in their 2023 Management's Discussion and Analysis and 2023 Annual Information Form, which can be found on CT REIT's website and on SEDAR+. I will now turn the call over to Kevin Salsberg, President and Chief Executive Officer of CT REIT. Kevin? Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:01:28Thank you, Gigi. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to CT REIT's second quarter investor conference call. Despite a challenging economic backdrop, CT REIT continues to perform well, and I am pleased with our results again this quarter, as NOI and AFFO per unit increased by 4.4% and 3.6%, respectively. Our track record and ability to grow cash flow on a per unit basis has allowed us to raise our distributions 11 times since our IPO in 2013, with the most recent increase in distribution payments being enjoyed by our investors starting last month. Including this latest increase, our compound annual growth rate in distributions over the last five years is 4.1%, and we have achieved this growth while managing to improve our payout ratio to its current level at just over 70%. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:02:22I am also pleased that notwithstanding a very slow property transaction market, we continue to be able to source strategic opportunities to grow our portfolio of net lease assets. We were happy to announce in our Q2 release that we acquired a Canadian Tire-anchored property in a very strong market with high barriers to entry on Vancouver Island in the province of British Columbia. Additionally, we sold a former Canadian Tire-anchored property in Chilliwack, BC, in Q2 to an end user at a price well above our IFRS value for the asset. Although our hope is that the recent moves by the Bank of Canada to continue to lower interest rates will spur additional market activity and deal velocity, we continue to manage our portfolio for the future and prudently seek out avenues for growth. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:03:11As it relates to our balance sheet, we completed the previously announced rate reset on our Series 4 Class C LP units with Canadian Tire in the quarter, and continued to buy back units under our NCIB program, taking advantage of the fact that we were trading well below our net asset value. Finally, I am pleased to share that we recently released our third annual ESG report, detailing our efforts and achievements from 2023. The report is available for download on our website, and I encourage you to take a read, as we are proud of the progress that we continue to make along our ESG journey. I will now turn the call over to Jodi and Lesley to provide some additional details on the quarter, our results, and our investment, leasing, and development activities. Jodi? Jodi ShpigelSVP of Real Estate at CT REIT00:03:54Thanks, Kevin, and good morning, everyone. As highlighted in our press release yesterday, we were pleased to announce one new investment this quarter. This new investment relates to the acquisition of a property with a Canadian Tire store and a Mark's store in Nanaimo, British Columbia. This investment of CAD 45.2 million, with a going-in yield of 6%, will add 141,000 sq ft of incremental GLA to the portfolio. As Kevin has already highlighted, in Q2, CT REIT has also sold a former Canadian Tire property in Chilliwack, BC, for CAD 19 million and completed the previously announced intensification of a Canadian Tire store in Granby, Quebec. The total investment required for the Canadian Tire store expansion was CAD 7.6 million, and this project added 27,000 sq ft of incremental GLA to the portfolio. Jodi ShpigelSVP of Real Estate at CT REIT00:04:50Building on the progress made in 2023, the REIT currently has 19 projects at various stages of development, with two of these expected to be completed this year and with the remaining projects expected to be completed in 2025 and 2026. These developments represent a total committed investment of approximately CAD 283 million upon completion, CAD 98 million of which has already been spent, and CAD 85 million of which we anticipate will be spent in the next twelve months. Once built, these projects will add a total incremental GLA of approximately 715,000 sq ft to the portfolio, nearly 94% of which has been pre-leased at quarter end. During the quarter, we extended three Canadian Tire store leases, as well as approximately 98,000 sq ft of non-Canadian Tire tenancies, and our occupancy rate is now at 99.4%. Jodi ShpigelSVP of Real Estate at CT REIT00:05:46As at the end of Q2, the weighted average lease term for our portfolio was 8.0 years, which remains one of the longest in the sector. With that, I will turn it over to Lesley to discuss our financial results. Lesley? Lesley GibsonCFO at CT REIT00:05:59Thanks, Jodi, and good morning, everyone. As Kevin highlighted, we were pleased with the strong results delivered by the REIT again this quarter. Lesley GibsonCFO at CT REIT00:06:07... Same-store NOI grew by 1.0% or CAD 1.1 million. Drivers of the same-store NOI increase were contractual rent escalations of CAD 1.8 million, primarily being the 1.5% average annual rent escalations, including the Canadian Tire leases, partially offset by lower recovery of capital expenditures, which reduced NOI by CAD 600,000 in the quarter. Primarily as a result of the final billings completed in Q2 2023, which contributed over CAD 1 million, excluding which our same property NOI would have been 2.2%, which is more in line with our historic average. Same property NOI grew by 1.9% or CAD 2 million compared to the prior year. This increase was primarily due to the increase in the same-store NOI noted, as well as from the intensifications completed in 2023 and 2024. Lesley GibsonCFO at CT REIT00:07:02Overall, in the second quarter, NOI grew by a healthy 4.4% or CAD 4.8 million, driven by the increase in the same property NOI, the completion of development projects in 2023, and from lease surrender revenue, which contributed approximately CAD 1 million. In the second quarter, excluding fair value adjustments, G&A expense as a percentage of property revenue was 2.8%, which was lower than the same period in the prior year, 3.1%. This decrease was primarily due to the timing of the deferred income tax provision, amounting to CAD 525,000, which is expected to reverse over the balance of the year. Lesley GibsonCFO at CT REIT00:07:39The fair value adjustment of CAD 22.9 million in the quarter was driven by a combination of contractual rent increases and the leasing activity within the portfolio during the period, as well as a gain from the disposition of a property which accounted for about half of the quarter's fair value increase. Investment metrics for the portfolio remained unchanged relative to Q1 2024. In the quarter, diluted FFO per unit was up 2.1% to CAD 0.337, compared to CAD 0.330 in the second quarter of 2023. This growth can be primarily attributed to the intensifications and developments completed during 2023 and 2024, the contractual rent escalations in our Canadian Tire leases, and the previously mentioned surrender revenue, partially offset by higher interest costs. Lesley GibsonCFO at CT REIT00:08:28Growth in AFFO per unit on a diluted basis was strong for the same reasons, coming in at CAD 0.315, up 3.6% compared to Q2 of 2023. Cash distributions paid in the quarter increased 3.5% compared to the same period in the previous year, due to the increases in the monthly cash distribution paid in July 2023. As announced last quarter, we, for the eleventh time in as many years, declared a further increase to our distributions of 3%, which was effective for the cash distribution payment made on July fifteenth. This represents a cumulative increase of 42.3% since our IPO in 2013. The AFFO payout ratio for Q2 was 71.4%, which was unchanged from the same period last year. Lesley GibsonCFO at CT REIT00:09:16In Q2 2024, we continued repurchasing our units through the NCIB facility, buying back approximately 8.4 million units at an average price of CAD 13.37 per unit, which is below their intrinsic value. Now, turning to the balance sheet. Our interest coverage was 3.59 times for the current quarter, compared to 3.74 times for the comparable quarter of 2023, with the decrease mainly driven by the increase in interest expense and other financing charges, outpacing the growth in EBIT fair value. The indebtedness to the EBIT fair value ratio improved to 6.59 times, down from 6.83 times in Q2 of 2023, primarily because of the growth in EBIT fair value outpacing the slight increase in indebtedness. Lesley GibsonCFO at CT REIT00:10:02Our indebtedness ratio was up slightly to 40.9% from 39.9% in the same quarter of last year, due to the issuance of the Series I Senior Unsecured Debentures, partially offset by an increase in fair value on investment properties. Our indebtedness ratio continues to be within our target range, and considering the current macroeconomic backdrop and interest rate environment, we're pleased with the strength of the balance sheet. Lastly, with respect to liquidity, we ended Q2 with CAD 31 million of cash on hand and CAD 297 million remains available through our committed credit facility. A further CAD 300 million is available in our uncommitted facility with Canadian Tire Corporation. And with that, I'll turn the call back to the operator for any questions. Operator00:10:46Thank you. At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, please press star then one, one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, press star then one, one again. We'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Lorne Kalmar from Desjardins. Lorne KalmarVP of Equity Research Analyst at Desjardins Capital Markets00:11:14Thanks, and happy Friday, everybody. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:11:18Morning. Lorne KalmarVP of Equity Research Analyst at Desjardins Capital Markets00:11:19Good morning. Just first on the dispositions. I haven't been covering you guys for that long, but I believe this is not typical. Is this something we can expect more of going forward? And maybe you can give us a little bit of an idea of what the genesis of the transaction was. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:11:39I would say broadly, no, I wouldn't expect a lot more of that in the future. I mean, typically, our preference, you know, in this instance, where Canadian Tire had relocated from the site, would be to redevelop it and try to create incremental value. This particular location, strong retail node, Chilliwack, in the, you Lower Mainland, in British Columbia, really strong site. We had an end user who came along and made us a very compelling offer. Canadian Tire still had some lease term with us, couple of the strong offer with a lease surrender buyout arrangement. And the financials were just, I guess, too compelling to hold on to the asset. So, we have made the decision to sell it. Lorne KalmarVP of Equity Research Analyst at Desjardins Capital Markets00:12:31Fair enough. And that kind of dovetails my next question: Is the lease term income related to the disposition? Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:12:39It's not related to the disposition in that it wasn't, you know, directly tied to the purchase agreement, but the end user did want vacant possession, so indirectly, yes. Lorne KalmarVP of Equity Research Analyst at Desjardins Capital Markets00:12:50Okay, fair enough. And then maybe just last one from me. I know kind of the last few quarters have benefited from the higher rate on the recovery of the capital expenditures. And you know, with rates coming off, is it sort of fair to expect maybe a below typical same asset NOI, same asset NOI growth profile for the next few quarters? Lesley GibsonCFO at CT REIT00:13:17Lorne, Lesley, this quarter was maybe a little bit tough, tougher one to comp over because of some final billings in the prior quarter. You know, obviously, the rates have come down and are coming down, and we will expect that. So we will be comping off a little bit of low interest expense, but I think the bigger delta quarter-over-quarter this year is some final billings that were done in Q2 of 2023. The interest change in the rate will be perhaps, I think, a little bit more modest going through the other quarters as it's only going down another quarter point. Lorne KalmarVP of Equity Research Analyst at Desjardins Capital Markets00:13:51Okay. Thank you very much. I will turn it back. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:13:54Thank you. Operator00:13:56Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Pammi Bir from RBC Capital Markets. Pammi BirManaging Director of Real Estate and REITs Analyst at RBC Capital Markets00:14:08Thanks. Good morning. I wanted to come back to the BC acquisition. Can you maybe provide a little more color on that one? And just given maybe a bit more of a favorable rate environment, I'm curious if you're starting to see some more attractive opportunities start to shake loose from third parties. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:14:27Sure, Pammi. I'll take that, and good morning. Off-market deal, this was a relationship we had with the existing or the vendor, I guess. And we had been in discussions for some time. It was part of a larger asset that is part of a broader redevelopment scheme that they're contemplating. And this component of the property was more stabilized. So, yeah, lots of discussions. We've been in, I guess, negotiations and under contract for some time as it did require a subdivision. So this is something that we had in the pipeline for, I guess, an extended period of time. But, you know, very happy to be transacting, one, in BC, and two, on Vancouver Island. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:15:15Obviously, tough to come by assets at pricing that we feel is compelling there. So we thought the financial parameters of the deal were attractive for us. And certainly repatriating Canadian Tire stores fits squarely within our strategic plans. In terms of the broader market, haven't seen really much movement in the way of pricing or additional volume. I would say marketed transactions right now seem light to me by comparison, at least specifically for retail assets. You know, Q1 was very light in terms of investment volumes. And I think you're seeing that reflected in our fair value assessment for the quarter, where we essentially just held things flat. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:16:05You know, could these recent moves by the Bank of Canada give buyers and sellers a little bit more confidence that it's time to start moving the needle on both exchanging assets and pricing? Entirely possible, but I think, you know, we'll have to see how the rest of the year shapes up, and what you know, what we might see in the market. Pammi BirManaging Director of Real Estate and REITs Analyst at RBC Capital Markets00:16:31Got it. No, that's, it's, that's helpful color. Just on maybe one more on that acquisition. What's the term left on the Canadian Tire lease, or I guess, the mix of leases from the Canadian Tire banners in there? And, I guess, if it's... Would there be any changes, I guess, to maybe reflect leases that are more similar to the CT REIT portfolio? Lesley GibsonCFO at CT REIT00:16:57Good morning. So, in terms of the lease term, there's many, many years with options left on this term. It goes for an extended period of time, and so that was another part of the reason why it was compelling for us to purchase. We do have a lot of lease term left on this asset- Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:17:12I think. Lesley GibsonCFO at CT REIT00:17:12Between the Canadian Tire and the Mark's. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:17:14Yeah, I think the Canadian Tire is north of, north of 10 years, for sure. Lesley GibsonCFO at CT REIT00:17:17Oh, yeah, it is definitely north of 10 years, with options after that. Pammi BirManaging Director of Real Estate and REITs Analyst at RBC Capital Markets00:17:21Got it. And just on the, on the development pipeline, it seems to be holding steady. I guess, you know, one, one expansion was, was done in a quarter, but, you know, as you think about maybe the next year or so, how do you see that unfolding? I'm just curious if maybe, you know, any chance it starts to expand again or, or any-- or possibly on the other side, maybe projects getting pushed back at all. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:17:46So the project delays have sort of already been baked in. I mean, I think that's what we've seen over the last few quarters. The current pipeline at about 715,000 sq ft, CAD 280-ish million, is pretty close to our historic average run rate. So we're happy with the pipeline. I think, you know, in terms of monies to be spent, call it over the next 12 months versus the back part of it, probably a little bit more weighted to the back part right now. I think the number was CAD 85 million that we intend to spend in the next year. And there's been about CAD 95 million spent to date, so call it a little over a hundred for the back part of the development pipeline horizon. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:18:28You know, the pace of new projects has certainly slowed. I think, you know, again, dovetails between two things. One, Canadian Tire's intention, and I think they're still of the firm belief that investing in the retail bricks and mortar network is core to their strategy. Certainly, you know, the last couple of quarters have been a little tougher for them than, say, 2022, 2023. So I think that's playing into the slower pace. And then, you know, the interest rate story and our ability to fund, you know, those projects accretively, which also dovetails into the cost to build these stores. So all that's playing together to say, slow that pace. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:19:10But I do think, at the appropriate time, we'll have additional projects that we revisit, and we'll be working with Canadian Tire closely on our joint ability to move those forward. Pammi BirManaging Director of Real Estate and REITs Analyst at RBC Capital Markets00:19:25Got it. That's, that's helpful. Thanks very much, Kevin. I'll, I'll turn it back. Operator00:19:31Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Sam Damiani from TD Cowen. Sam DamianiEquity Research Analyst at TD Cowen00:19:41Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:19:43Good morning. Sam DamianiEquity Research Analyst at TD Cowen00:19:43Just wanted to really just touch on renewal leasing spreads. I didn't catch that, and most of my other questions were asked. So yeah, just on the third party and the CTC leases that were extended, I wonder if you could just provide some color on the spreads that you experienced in the quarter versus the prior history. Jodi ShpigelSVP of Real Estate at CT REIT00:20:06Morning, Sam, it's Jodi. So total renewals this quarter, including the CT stores, were approximately 300,000 sq ft, so about 1% of the portfolio. That includes, obviously, the combination of fixed and market renewals. The three Canadian Tire stores that renewed this quarter were at the 1.5%. Pretty typical, as you know, for the CT renewals. In terms of the non-Canadian Tire renewals, those were in the high single digits, so we're pleased with that in terms of the spread. So I'd say pretty normal quarter, and in terms of volume and renewal rates. Sam DamianiEquity Research Analyst at TD Cowen00:20:44That's great, Jodi. And just, I guess, just sort of, generally in the market today, I mean, I think it was double digits last quarter, high single digits this quarter. I mean, is that a reflection of any change in the market or just a different mix of leases that were transacted this quarter? I mean, what's your sense on the overall leasing environment now versus three, six months ago? The same, better, worse? Jodi ShpigelSVP of Real Estate at CT REIT00:21:08I'd say, again, I'd say pretty normal. It's in this quarter, I think we just had a higher amount of fixed renewals versus market renewals, so that's why high singles versus low double digits, but pretty much on trend with what we would expect. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:21:21And although the market renewal piece was probably smaller this quarter than in past, that was done pretty much around that 10% spread number. So kind of similar to the past experience there, where we had a little bit more pricing power. Sam DamianiEquity Research Analyst at TD Cowen00:21:39That's great. Thank you very much, and I'll turn it back. Operator00:21:43Thank you. As a reminder to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. As there are no further questions at this time, I will turn the call over to Kevin Salsberg, President and CEO, for closing remarks. Kevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REIT00:22:11Thank you, Gigi, and thank you all for joining us today. We look forward to speaking with you again in November after we release our Q3 results, and I hope everybody has a great long weekend. Operator00:22:22This concludes today's call. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsAnalystsJodi ShpigelSVP of Real Estate at CT REITKevin SalsbergPresident and CEO at CT REITLesley GibsonCFO at CT REITLorne KalmarVP of Equity Research Analyst at Desjardins Capital MarketsPammi BirManaging Director of Real Estate and REITs Analyst at RBC Capital MarketsSam DamianiEquity Research Analyst at TD CowenPowered by