NYSE:SOL Emeren Group Q2 2024 Earnings Report ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Emeren Group EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.01Consensus EPS $0.07Beat/MissMissed by -$0.06One Year Ago EPS$0.14Emeren Group Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$30.06 millionExpected Revenue$21.10 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$8.96 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AEmeren Group Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/20/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateTuesday, August 20, 2024Conference Call Time5:00PM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Emeren Group Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 20, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways In Q2 2024, Ameren Group generated $30.1 M in revenue with a 31.2% gross margin, driving operating profit of $3 M and net income of $0.4 M, demonstrating strong operational discipline. Net income was reduced by approximately $2 M of write-offs from cancelled projects and an $0.8 M unrealized foreign exchange loss, highlighting project execution risks. By the end of Q2, the company had signed over 2 GW of DSA contracts in Europe for >$60 M of revenue and is negotiating another 2 GW expected to deliver ~$100 M over the next 3–4 years. Ameren reduced its early-stage project pipeline in Spain by 1.3 GW due to regional government approval delays, leading to project cancellations and portfolio cuts. Management reaffirmed full-year 2024 guidance of $150–$160 M in revenue, ~30% gross margin, and net income of ~$22 M, with Q3 revenue expected at $25–$28 M. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallEmeren Group Q2 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by for Emeren Group Ltd's Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference call. Please note that we are recording today's call - conference call. I will now turn over the call to Gary Dvorchak, Managing Director of the Blue Shirt Group. Please go ahead, Mr. Dvorchak. Gary DvorchakManaging Director at The Blueshirt Group00:00:21Okay. Thank you, operator, and hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss second quarter 2024 results. We released our shareholder letter before the market opened today, and it is available on our website at ir.emeren.com. We also provided a supplemental presentation that's posted on our IR website as well, and we'll reference that during our prepared remarks. Yesterday, we filed our Forms 10-K... 10-Q, excuse me, for both the first and the second quarters, so we are now fully compliant with SEC reporting requirements. On the call with me today are Mr. Yumin Liu, Chief Executive Officer, and Mr. Ke Chen, Chief Financial Officer. Before we continue, please turn to slide two. Let me, let me remind you that remarks made during this call may include predictions, estimates, or other information that might be considered forward-looking. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:01:13These forward-looking statements represent Emeren Group's current judgment for the future. However, they are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. Those risks are described under Risk Factors and elsewhere in Emeren Group's filings with the SEC. Please do not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which reflect Emeren Group's opinions only as of the date of this call. Emeren Group is not obliged to update you on any revisions to these forward-looking statements. In addition, please note that all financial numbers discussed in this call are unaudited. Also, please note that unless otherwise stated, all figures mentioned during the call are in US dollars. With that, let me now turn the call over to Mr. Yumin Liu. Yumin, go ahead. Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:01:58Thank you, Gary. Thank you, everyone, for joining our call today. I'll begin by providing an overview of our operational performance in Q2 2024, and Ke will discuss our financial results for Q2 and our outlook. In Q2, our company achieved solid progress, generating $30.1 million in revenue. This performance was underpinned by gross profit of $9.4 million, translating to a robust gross margin of 31.2%. Operating profit was $3 million, and net income attributable to Emeren Group Ltd was $0.4 million. These results reflect our disciplined approach to growth, particularly through the execution of our development service agreements, DSA, strategy across Europe and the U.S. Our relentless focus on improving efficiency across all regions has paid off, enabling us to maintain strong operating discipline and control costs effectively. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:03:08Offsetting our solid operating profit, net income was reduced by around $2 million write-offs related to canceled projects, and unrealized foreign exchange loss of $0.8 million. Despite these setbacks, our ability to deliver a solid operating profit underscores the resilience and adaptability of our business model. In terms of our business lines, first, our DSA structure has established a stable and predictable business model, enabling us to monetize projects at the early stages of development and secure higher quality contracted revenue. This approach is crucial for managing risk and maximizing cash flow throughout the project lifecycle. By end of the second quarter of 2024, we had signed over 2 GWs of projects with eight DSA partners in Europe to monetize these early and mid-stage projects. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:04:14The total contracted revenue of over $16 million is expected to be recognized over the next two to three years based on the development milestones. In the first half of 2024, we achieved $8.2 million of DSA revenue, already surpassing the full year of 2023 DSA revenue total of $6.5 million. Looking ahead, we are committed to expanding our DSA partnerships on a global scale, leveraging our expertise and track record to enter new market and forge strategic alliance. Currently, we have over 2 GW of DSA contracts under negotiation. These contracts are expected to close within the next six to eight months, bringing the company an estimated $100 million in revenue to be recognized over the next three to four years. In parallel, our BESS projects are gaining momentum, particularly in Italy. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:05:23We recently finalized a DSA agreement for BESS projects with PLT Energia, one of Italy's largest independent renewable power producers, specializing in wind and solar. This transaction comprises a BESS portfolio totaling 394 MW, demonstrating the growth of our BESS strategy in Italy, where we now have a total of 1.7 GW BESS projects in the DSA structure. In Q2, we signed a contract to sell a 42-MW RTB solar project portfolio in Spain to CVE España, a subsidiary of French independent power producer CVE, developed by Emeren since 2021. This diverse portfolio is comprised of eight greenfield projects ranging from five to six megawatts. Together, these eight projects will generate approximately 92.8 GWh per year of energy, serving around 28,000 households in the region. The avoided carbon emissions will amount to about 20,000 tons of carbon dioxide per year. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:06:41Additionally, in Q2, we completed the delivery of 13 MW COD project in Hungary, further solidifying our presence in the country. This accomplishment builds on our December 2023 sale of a 53.6 MW solar portfolio in Hungary to Cornerstone Douglas Renewables. These six projects, set to power approximately 9,500 households, reinforce our commitment to providing sustainable energy solutions across Europe. Furthermore, our IPP assets exhibited strong growth and profitability, contributing approximately 30% of our total revenue for the quarter. We continued to out-optimize the operation of our solar farms, including Branston in the U.K. The IPP segment is a crucial component of our business model, providing a reliable source of stable and predictable cash flow. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:07:46IPP revenue is balanced between Europe and China, with a modest presence in the U.S. In Europe, we have 67 MW of IPP assets generating recurring revenue. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:08:00Our IPP assets in China, the majority of which are located in the five coastal provinces with favorable power prices, strong economies, and robust regulatory environments, are being fortified with the addition of battery storage projects. As of the end of Q2 2024, our battery storage portfolio in China comprised 26 megawatt hours, all integrated into a virtual power plant, or VPP platform, owned and operated by Huaneng Power International, one of China's largest IPP operators. Looking ahead of the remainder of 2024 and beyond, we are well positioned in many of the world's fastest growing solar markets. These markets are supported by rising clean energy demand, favorable government policies, and advancing technologies. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:08:57Our priorities include advancing early-stage projects, securing additional DSA partnerships in Europe and the U.S., and optimizing strategies to maximize the value of our development pipeline. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:09:13With that, let me turn the call over to our CFO, Ke Chen, to discuss our financial performance and guidance. Ke? Ke ChenCFO at Emeren Group Ltd00:09:23Yeah. Thank you, Yumin, and thanks everyone again for joining us on the call today. Our revenue rose to $30.1 million, doubling quarter over quarter, driven by significant growth in the EPC or COD projects development and DSA segments, fueled by project completion and increased demand for development services. Our revenue declined 11% year over year, primarily due to the reduced RTB sales in Europe. Despite these challenges, strong performance in COD and DSA highlights the company's strategic focus and operational resilience. Gross profit was $9.4 million, compared to $4.3 million in Q1 2024, and $12.7 million in Q2 2023. Gross margin was 31.2%, compared to 29.6% in Q1 2024, and 37.4% in Q2 2023. The year-over-year decrease in gross margin was primarily due to shift in the revenue mix towards sales. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:10:42Operating expenses were $6.4 million, down from $7.6 million in Q2 2023, but higher than the $5.5 million in Q1 2024, primarily due to the around $2 million write-off related to canceled projects. Net income attributed to Emeren Group Ltd's common shareholder was $0.4 million, a $6.3 million rebound from a net loss of $5.9 million in Q1 2024, though lower than $8.3 million a year ago. This was impacted by around $2 million write-off related to canceled projects and unrealized foreign exchange loss of $0.8 million. Diluted net income attributed to Emeren Group Ltd's common shareholder for ADS was $0.01, compared to diluted net loss of $0.11 in Q1 2024, and diluted net income of $0.14 in Q2 2023. Cash used in operating activities was $2.2 million. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:11:50Cash used in investing activities was $3.8 million, and cash provided by financing activities was $1.5 million. Moving to balance, cash and cash equivalents at end of Q2 2024 were $50.8 million, compared to $55.1 million in Q1 2024. Net asset value or NAV is approximately $6 per ADS. Our debt to asset ratio at end of Q2 2024 was 10.2%, compared to 9.99% at the end of Q1 2024. Shifting gears to our outlook. We anticipate that our Q3 revenue will fall within the range of $25-$28 million, with gross margin between 35%-38%. For the full year2024, we re-affirm our expectation for revenue range from $150-$160 million, and for gross margin of approximately 30%. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:13:01Additionally, we reaffirm our expectation for net income in 2024 to be around $22 million. Taking into account the impact of foreign exchange, and we expect earnings per ADS to be approximately $0.43. Operating profit is expected to grow in line with revenue, with a continued focus on cost management and efficiency. While full year net income will be affected by the early write-offs and foreign exchange losses, we remain confident in delivering solid financial performance for the year. Additionally, we affirm our expectation for 2024 IPP revenue to be between $24 million and $26 million, with a gross margin of approximately 50%. We expect DSA revenue to be around $20 million in the second half of 2024. With that, let's open up the call for any questions. Operator, please go ahead. Operator00:14:06Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. One moment for questions. Our first question comes from Graham Price with Raymond James. You may proceed. Graham PriceSenior Equity Research Associate at Raymond James00:14:33Hi, good afternoon, and thanks for taking the questions. First one, just on the early stage pipeline, looks like Spain was revised down by about 1.3 GW versus Q1. Just wondering what the reason was for that? Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:14:53Okay, good question. And, you know, we have been facing some challenges in the approval process from the government in Spain, especially in some regions we have activities. And balancing the risk and reward, the company decided to slow down or even cancel projects in some regions. Okay, that is the reason we lowered our early-stage pipeline in Spain. Literally, we canceled those projects. Graham PriceSenior Equity Research Associate at Raymond James00:15:33Got it. Understood. Then for my follow-up, I guess kind of a two-parter on the DSA sales. First one, just looking at the second half forecast of $20 million. I was wondering what the quarterly cadence is there? And then looking at the contracted versus negotiated, it looks like you've got 2 GW in kind of each bucket, but it looks like contracted is for $60 million versus negotiated, $100 million. So I was wondering if those that are still in negotiation are a bit more involved or later stage projects. Just wondering why the difference in size there? Ke ChenCFO at Emeren Group Ltd00:16:22Yes, Graham, let me answer the first part, and Yumin will answer the second part. The first part, we do expect $20 million revenue coming out with DSA in the second half. And I will say half, more than 50% has already contracted. And again, the second half, less than 50%, is under negotiation. In terms of quarter over quarter, I think we could expect evenly distributed in the next two quarters. And I will Yumin answer you about the contract and the projected difference. Graham PriceSenior Equity Research Associate at Raymond James00:17:02Okay. Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:17:03Our existing DSAs mainly comes from the Italy market. Okay? And now, in the following months or the following, as I mentioned, six to eight months, we have over 2 GW of contracts or DSA contracts we target to close, and that is on global scale. And both on solar and also on the storage, including four to five countries in Europe and plus the US. That portfolio of 2 GW also include not only early stage, but also some middle or even more advanced stages projects. That is why the DSA number will be a lot higher in some cases compared to the early stage ones. Graham PriceSenior Equity Research Associate at Raymond James00:18:02Got it. Okay, perfect. That, that's exactly what I was looking for. Thank you very much. I'll jump back in the queue. Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:18:09Thank you, Graham. Operator00:18:12Thank you. Our next question comes from Philip Shen with Roth Capital Partners. You may proceed. Philip ShenSenior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:18:22... Hey, all, thanks for the questions. We're taking the questions. Your implied Q4 revenue ramp is pretty high, about $84 million. And so wanted to understand, you know, how confident you feel in that implied Q4, given you reiterated your full year revenue number. And so, what's the confidence level? How much conservatism is baked in, and what are the risks that you miss the target? Thanks. Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:18:59Thank you, Phil. It's a very, very good and challenging question, too. As the team, the teams across the board has been working on those expected closings, literally speaking, as early as two, three months ago, even for the closings to be expected in Q4 or sometime may happen, late Q3. Okay? That is where our confidence come from. We are going to the direction, closing the deals with, the ones negotiation with the partners, starting from as early as two to three months ago. Bunch of deals to be closed are under the due diligence process, and bunch of them are under exclusive basis with some targeted buyers. Another point to be noted is we do have several COD, planned COD sales, while those projects are either already COD-ed in the past one or two months, or will be COD-ed within Q3. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:20:14That is within the next forty-five days, so we have the confidence that those COD assets are so valuable and people are, even today, visiting our COD sites. Okay, so we feel good by closing those deals, but definitely, as I see your question is challenging, that we do have one deal in Europe. It's a pretty high revenue expectation and margin the same, so I expect some risk, but at this time, we have very high confidence to close all those expected deals. Philip ShenSenior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:20:55Great. In that deal in Europe that has high revenue, can you share the megawatts, maybe what country it's in? Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:21:05We cannot go into that detail as those are on exclusive basis with the buyers, targeted buyers. And then, I think by the time when we go into next earnings call, we do plan to give more details on the closing targets. Philip ShenSenior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:21:26Okay, great. Thanks, Yumin. Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:21:28Thank you, Phil. Philip ShenSenior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:21:31Shifting over to your $2 million of write-offs of canceled projects. I think you guys had a similar amount on the last quarter, Q1, and wanted to see if we should expect $2 million for this coming Q3, maybe even Q4. How much more is there, and what are the root causes of these canceled projects? Is it like you were saying earlier, in terms of Spain, you know, the government's changing some of the situation, or, you know, is it more concentrated in U.S. or Europe, my guess is? So just give us some more color on what to expect ahead for the canceled and write-off projects. Ke ChenCFO at Emeren Group Ltd00:22:20Yeah. Philip ShenSenior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:22:21Thanks. Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:22:21Yes, Phil, again, the specific write-off related to U.S. Again, you probably know the challenge of interconnecting those kind of normal stuff happening in U.S. However, going forward, we are not expecting that, in especially the second half, we don't expect any big write-off going forward in the second half. Philip ShenSenior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:22:43Got it. Great. Thank you. And then one last thing. You guys talked about having $100 million in cash by the end of 2024 in the past, and being positive of operating cash flow for the remaining of, you know, for the year, or at least certain quarters of this year. What's your ... I don't see, we don't see it in this material for this quarter. Can you share if you think $100 million is reasonable still by year-end 2024? Or if not, what's the burn that you expect, and how much cash do you think you could have by year-end? Thanks. Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:23:20Yes. Based on our forecast, again, we're confident about our outlook here. As we mentioned, you mentioned part of this COD sales will happen in the fourth quarter, so we are still confident to collect all this cash by end of this year. And we'll also expect, you know, on a full year basis, we should be operating cash flow positive. Philip ShenSenior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:23:44Great. Appreciate that, Ke. Okay, I'll pass it on. Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:23:47Thank you, Phil. Thank you. Operator00:23:50Thank you. Our next question comes from Amit Dayal with H.C. Wainwright. You may proceed. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:23:58Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. So, Yumin, with respect to the guidance for the remainder of the year, you know, you're saying you could potentially do $28 million in net income on roughly, say, $100-$110 million – $110-$120 million in sales. I'm just trying to get a sense of, you know, what's driving this significant level of profitability for the revenues that you are expecting to recognize in the second half? Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:24:29... I think the I would say three reasons coming to our confidence level. One is, as I mentioned, that we have worked on bunch of expected closings starting over two, three months ago, and we do expect to close them in the second half. The second is, the significant part of the revenue may come or will come from the COD sales, and those COD are either reached or are to be reached within Q3. So the COD assets are pretty valuable and hotspot to be chased upon by buyers. And as I mentioned also, that we even have one COD buyer visiting our site today. So those are all on exclusive basis, and we are so confident those will be done. And definitely, we have all those contracts, including DSAs, under the negotiation, we believe we can close now. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:25:36Understood. And, my question was more around margins, you know. So you feel that the price you will receive for these assets will support these levels of, margin expectation that you have for the second half? Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:25:50Yes. Although COD margin is normally lower, but in general, our biz model on the NTP or RTP sale, plus DSA, provide a very healthy margin. And including our IPP assets, those are also high-margin deals. And again, we talk about COD sale, but the margin, our main focus will still be on the RTP, NTP sale, both in Europe and the US. So margin contribution will also come from our strength of NTP, RTP sale, plus DSA and IPP, which Yumin just mentioned. So we're confident about margin in the second half. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:26:34Understood. Thank you for that. And, you know, related to that again, you know, is any of this dependent on, you know, interest rates going lower, any of these deals in the second half, you know, are folks maybe waiting to, you know, pencil these deals once they have clarity on where interest rates will head in the next few months? Ke ChenCFO at Emeren Group Ltd00:26:58Very good question and very good point. I really hope that the buyers will pay a better price with better interest rate or lower interest rate environment. And we believe that should be the case. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:27:15Okay, thank you. Just last one for me with respect to these DSA revenues. Looks like you're getting good traction on that front. Are these DSA revenues, you know, 30% gross margins or higher or lower? Can you give us a sense of what kind of gross margin we should expect from DSA revenues? Ke ChenCFO at Emeren Group Ltd00:27:37I could not release this margin number, but the, it is absolutely a very good model. Literally speaking, in our company, I say there are three keywords: solar, battery storage, and DSA. It is very important to the company operation, but the, unfortunately, I don't think I can release the margin number. And by the way, as we are doing DSA in multiple countries, also on both PV and storage projects, so the margin varies really, pretty bigly. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:28:14Okay, understood. So that's all I have. I will take my other questions offline. Thank you. Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:28:19Thank you very much. Operator00:28:22Thank you. Our next question comes from Donovan Schafer with Northland Capital Markets. You may proceed. Donovan SchaferManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Northland Capital Markets00:28:33Hey, guys. My first question is just for the 1.7 GW of the DSA contracts for BESS in Italy that you have. Is that a subset within the 2 GW of contracted DSA that you have? So, you know, does the implication that, you know, 85%-90% of the 2 GW you have signed contracted for DSA, that 85% of that is BESS in Italy, or are these, like, different buckets? Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:29:10You are right. In fact, it is the case. Our DSA under BESS projects, storage projects, represent over 80% of the whole DSA portfolio. Donovan SchaferManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Northland Capital Markets00:29:22Okay, got it. Helpful. Thank you. And then for, let's see, the write-off, can you clarify just what it was that triggered the write-off? Was it specifically an interconnection delay or, you know, what was the specific bottleneck or parameter or event that triggered the write-off? Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:29:44I think the write-off comes mostly from, it's, by the way, it's a norm for any development company. When we have failed projects, then we have to have the write-offs on the accrued GNAs or the capitalized cost on the projects. But those $2 million specifically are connecting to the interconnection non-approval or challenges we are seeing. Okay? Just as I mentioned, for example, in Spain, for example, in U.S., the interconnection approvals got delayed and delayed. So for some cases, some deals will have to be written off as of those interconnection challenges. Donovan SchaferManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Northland Capital Markets00:30:32... Okay, got it. And then if I can squeeze one more in. You know, in the past, you've talked about monetizing 400-500 megawatts this year. Is that... And I noticed in the letter to shareholders, it says, you know, that the priority, let's see, is, let's see, it says the, "Your priorities include advancing early-stage projects, securing additional DSA partnerships in Europe and U.S., and, you know, maximizing value of development pipeline." So it's not. Is, does that include monetizing advanced stage? It just seems like advanced-stage projects, you've got a lot of megawatts in the advanced-stage category. Are, do you plan on monetizing those? Is that part of, do you still see 400-500 monetization of advanced stage? Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:31:33Yes, absolutely true. Donovan SchaferManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Northland Capital Markets00:31:35Is it a priority? Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:31:36We did not really mention that because monetizing or selling the advanced-stage pipeline is in our, we consider as normal business, okay? We have been doing so in the past years, but the DSA is new. So we mentioned the DSA more, and especially monetizing or the ones in the early-stage portfolio, is also the focus, literally in, speaking in the last almost twelve months. Donovan SchaferManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Northland Capital Markets00:32:12Okay, okay, that's helpful. All right, I'll take the rest of my questions offline. Thanks, guys. Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:32:16Thank you, Donovan. Operator00:32:19Thank you. And as a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. Our next question comes from Graham Price with Raymond James. You may proceed. Graham, your line is now open. Graham PriceSenior Equity Research Associate at Raymond James00:32:46Hey, guys, thanks. I was the first questioner, so you already got to mine. Thanks, though. Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:32:53Oh, thank you, Graham. Operator00:32:55Thank you. And I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the conference back to Mr. Liu for any closing remarks. Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:33:04Thank you, operator. The solar industry is experiencing strong momentum due to the global commitment to renewable energy. This shift towards clean energy sources positions solar and battery storage as a key part of the future energy mix. The growing demand for solar power to support AI and blockchain operations is particularly exciting, as these technologies require substantial energy, and solar plus battery storage offers a scalable, cost-effective solution. In conclusion, the future of solar energy is promising, and we are strategically positioned to capitalize on the accelerating adoption of solar and battery storage technology worldwide. With our expertise, industry partnerships, and strong financial foundation, we are advancing towards our goal of becoming a leading global solar and battery storage company. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:34:05We are enthusiastic about the future and proud to be driving the transition to a more sustainable world. Thank you again for joining our call today. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:34:16You may now disconnect. Operator00:34:19Thank you. This concludes the conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesKe ChenCFOYumin LiuCEOAnalystsAmit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by for Emeren Group Ltd's Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference call. Please note that we are recording today's call - conference call. I will now turn over the call to Gary Dvorchak, Managing Director of the Blue Shirt Group. Please go ahead, Mr. Dvorchak. Gary DvorchakManaging Director at The Blueshirt Group00:00:21Okay. Thank you, operator, and hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss second quarter 2024 results. We released our shareholder letter before the market opened today, and it is available on our website at ir.emeren.com. We also provided a supplemental presentation that's posted on our IR website as well, and we'll reference that during our prepared remarks. Yesterday, we filed our Forms 10-K... 10-Q, excuse me, for both the first and the second quarters, so we are now fully compliant with SEC reporting requirements. On the call with me today are Mr. Yumin Liu, Chief Executive Officer, and Mr. Ke Chen, Chief Financial Officer. Before we continue, please turn to slide two. Let me, let me remind you that remarks made during this call may include predictions, estimates, or other information that might be considered forward-looking. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:01:13These forward-looking statements represent Emeren Group's current judgment for the future. However, they are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. Those risks are described under Risk Factors and elsewhere in Emeren Group's filings with the SEC. Please do not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which reflect Emeren Group's opinions only as of the date of this call. Emeren Group is not obliged to update you on any revisions to these forward-looking statements. In addition, please note that all financial numbers discussed in this call are unaudited. Also, please note that unless otherwise stated, all figures mentioned during the call are in US dollars. With that, let me now turn the call over to Mr. Yumin Liu. Yumin, go ahead. Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:01:58Thank you, Gary. Thank you, everyone, for joining our call today. I'll begin by providing an overview of our operational performance in Q2 2024, and Ke will discuss our financial results for Q2 and our outlook. In Q2, our company achieved solid progress, generating $30.1 million in revenue. This performance was underpinned by gross profit of $9.4 million, translating to a robust gross margin of 31.2%. Operating profit was $3 million, and net income attributable to Emeren Group Ltd was $0.4 million. These results reflect our disciplined approach to growth, particularly through the execution of our development service agreements, DSA, strategy across Europe and the U.S. Our relentless focus on improving efficiency across all regions has paid off, enabling us to maintain strong operating discipline and control costs effectively. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:03:08Offsetting our solid operating profit, net income was reduced by around $2 million write-offs related to canceled projects, and unrealized foreign exchange loss of $0.8 million. Despite these setbacks, our ability to deliver a solid operating profit underscores the resilience and adaptability of our business model. In terms of our business lines, first, our DSA structure has established a stable and predictable business model, enabling us to monetize projects at the early stages of development and secure higher quality contracted revenue. This approach is crucial for managing risk and maximizing cash flow throughout the project lifecycle. By end of the second quarter of 2024, we had signed over 2 GWs of projects with eight DSA partners in Europe to monetize these early and mid-stage projects. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:04:14The total contracted revenue of over $16 million is expected to be recognized over the next two to three years based on the development milestones. In the first half of 2024, we achieved $8.2 million of DSA revenue, already surpassing the full year of 2023 DSA revenue total of $6.5 million. Looking ahead, we are committed to expanding our DSA partnerships on a global scale, leveraging our expertise and track record to enter new market and forge strategic alliance. Currently, we have over 2 GW of DSA contracts under negotiation. These contracts are expected to close within the next six to eight months, bringing the company an estimated $100 million in revenue to be recognized over the next three to four years. In parallel, our BESS projects are gaining momentum, particularly in Italy. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:05:23We recently finalized a DSA agreement for BESS projects with PLT Energia, one of Italy's largest independent renewable power producers, specializing in wind and solar. This transaction comprises a BESS portfolio totaling 394 MW, demonstrating the growth of our BESS strategy in Italy, where we now have a total of 1.7 GW BESS projects in the DSA structure. In Q2, we signed a contract to sell a 42-MW RTB solar project portfolio in Spain to CVE España, a subsidiary of French independent power producer CVE, developed by Emeren since 2021. This diverse portfolio is comprised of eight greenfield projects ranging from five to six megawatts. Together, these eight projects will generate approximately 92.8 GWh per year of energy, serving around 28,000 households in the region. The avoided carbon emissions will amount to about 20,000 tons of carbon dioxide per year. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:06:41Additionally, in Q2, we completed the delivery of 13 MW COD project in Hungary, further solidifying our presence in the country. This accomplishment builds on our December 2023 sale of a 53.6 MW solar portfolio in Hungary to Cornerstone Douglas Renewables. These six projects, set to power approximately 9,500 households, reinforce our commitment to providing sustainable energy solutions across Europe. Furthermore, our IPP assets exhibited strong growth and profitability, contributing approximately 30% of our total revenue for the quarter. We continued to out-optimize the operation of our solar farms, including Branston in the U.K. The IPP segment is a crucial component of our business model, providing a reliable source of stable and predictable cash flow. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:07:46IPP revenue is balanced between Europe and China, with a modest presence in the U.S. In Europe, we have 67 MW of IPP assets generating recurring revenue. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:08:00Our IPP assets in China, the majority of which are located in the five coastal provinces with favorable power prices, strong economies, and robust regulatory environments, are being fortified with the addition of battery storage projects. As of the end of Q2 2024, our battery storage portfolio in China comprised 26 megawatt hours, all integrated into a virtual power plant, or VPP platform, owned and operated by Huaneng Power International, one of China's largest IPP operators. Looking ahead of the remainder of 2024 and beyond, we are well positioned in many of the world's fastest growing solar markets. These markets are supported by rising clean energy demand, favorable government policies, and advancing technologies. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:08:57Our priorities include advancing early-stage projects, securing additional DSA partnerships in Europe and the U.S., and optimizing strategies to maximize the value of our development pipeline. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:09:13With that, let me turn the call over to our CFO, Ke Chen, to discuss our financial performance and guidance. Ke? Ke ChenCFO at Emeren Group Ltd00:09:23Yeah. Thank you, Yumin, and thanks everyone again for joining us on the call today. Our revenue rose to $30.1 million, doubling quarter over quarter, driven by significant growth in the EPC or COD projects development and DSA segments, fueled by project completion and increased demand for development services. Our revenue declined 11% year over year, primarily due to the reduced RTB sales in Europe. Despite these challenges, strong performance in COD and DSA highlights the company's strategic focus and operational resilience. Gross profit was $9.4 million, compared to $4.3 million in Q1 2024, and $12.7 million in Q2 2023. Gross margin was 31.2%, compared to 29.6% in Q1 2024, and 37.4% in Q2 2023. The year-over-year decrease in gross margin was primarily due to shift in the revenue mix towards sales. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:10:42Operating expenses were $6.4 million, down from $7.6 million in Q2 2023, but higher than the $5.5 million in Q1 2024, primarily due to the around $2 million write-off related to canceled projects. Net income attributed to Emeren Group Ltd's common shareholder was $0.4 million, a $6.3 million rebound from a net loss of $5.9 million in Q1 2024, though lower than $8.3 million a year ago. This was impacted by around $2 million write-off related to canceled projects and unrealized foreign exchange loss of $0.8 million. Diluted net income attributed to Emeren Group Ltd's common shareholder for ADS was $0.01, compared to diluted net loss of $0.11 in Q1 2024, and diluted net income of $0.14 in Q2 2023. Cash used in operating activities was $2.2 million. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:11:50Cash used in investing activities was $3.8 million, and cash provided by financing activities was $1.5 million. Moving to balance, cash and cash equivalents at end of Q2 2024 were $50.8 million, compared to $55.1 million in Q1 2024. Net asset value or NAV is approximately $6 per ADS. Our debt to asset ratio at end of Q2 2024 was 10.2%, compared to 9.99% at the end of Q1 2024. Shifting gears to our outlook. We anticipate that our Q3 revenue will fall within the range of $25-$28 million, with gross margin between 35%-38%. For the full year2024, we re-affirm our expectation for revenue range from $150-$160 million, and for gross margin of approximately 30%. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:13:01Additionally, we reaffirm our expectation for net income in 2024 to be around $22 million. Taking into account the impact of foreign exchange, and we expect earnings per ADS to be approximately $0.43. Operating profit is expected to grow in line with revenue, with a continued focus on cost management and efficiency. While full year net income will be affected by the early write-offs and foreign exchange losses, we remain confident in delivering solid financial performance for the year. Additionally, we affirm our expectation for 2024 IPP revenue to be between $24 million and $26 million, with a gross margin of approximately 50%. We expect DSA revenue to be around $20 million in the second half of 2024. With that, let's open up the call for any questions. Operator, please go ahead. Operator00:14:06Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. One moment for questions. Our first question comes from Graham Price with Raymond James. You may proceed. Graham PriceSenior Equity Research Associate at Raymond James00:14:33Hi, good afternoon, and thanks for taking the questions. First one, just on the early stage pipeline, looks like Spain was revised down by about 1.3 GW versus Q1. Just wondering what the reason was for that? Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:14:53Okay, good question. And, you know, we have been facing some challenges in the approval process from the government in Spain, especially in some regions we have activities. And balancing the risk and reward, the company decided to slow down or even cancel projects in some regions. Okay, that is the reason we lowered our early-stage pipeline in Spain. Literally, we canceled those projects. Graham PriceSenior Equity Research Associate at Raymond James00:15:33Got it. Understood. Then for my follow-up, I guess kind of a two-parter on the DSA sales. First one, just looking at the second half forecast of $20 million. I was wondering what the quarterly cadence is there? And then looking at the contracted versus negotiated, it looks like you've got 2 GW in kind of each bucket, but it looks like contracted is for $60 million versus negotiated, $100 million. So I was wondering if those that are still in negotiation are a bit more involved or later stage projects. Just wondering why the difference in size there? Ke ChenCFO at Emeren Group Ltd00:16:22Yes, Graham, let me answer the first part, and Yumin will answer the second part. The first part, we do expect $20 million revenue coming out with DSA in the second half. And I will say half, more than 50% has already contracted. And again, the second half, less than 50%, is under negotiation. In terms of quarter over quarter, I think we could expect evenly distributed in the next two quarters. And I will Yumin answer you about the contract and the projected difference. Graham PriceSenior Equity Research Associate at Raymond James00:17:02Okay. Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:17:03Our existing DSAs mainly comes from the Italy market. Okay? And now, in the following months or the following, as I mentioned, six to eight months, we have over 2 GW of contracts or DSA contracts we target to close, and that is on global scale. And both on solar and also on the storage, including four to five countries in Europe and plus the US. That portfolio of 2 GW also include not only early stage, but also some middle or even more advanced stages projects. That is why the DSA number will be a lot higher in some cases compared to the early stage ones. Graham PriceSenior Equity Research Associate at Raymond James00:18:02Got it. Okay, perfect. That, that's exactly what I was looking for. Thank you very much. I'll jump back in the queue. Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:18:09Thank you, Graham. Operator00:18:12Thank you. Our next question comes from Philip Shen with Roth Capital Partners. You may proceed. Philip ShenSenior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:18:22... Hey, all, thanks for the questions. We're taking the questions. Your implied Q4 revenue ramp is pretty high, about $84 million. And so wanted to understand, you know, how confident you feel in that implied Q4, given you reiterated your full year revenue number. And so, what's the confidence level? How much conservatism is baked in, and what are the risks that you miss the target? Thanks. Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:18:59Thank you, Phil. It's a very, very good and challenging question, too. As the team, the teams across the board has been working on those expected closings, literally speaking, as early as two, three months ago, even for the closings to be expected in Q4 or sometime may happen, late Q3. Okay? That is where our confidence come from. We are going to the direction, closing the deals with, the ones negotiation with the partners, starting from as early as two to three months ago. Bunch of deals to be closed are under the due diligence process, and bunch of them are under exclusive basis with some targeted buyers. Another point to be noted is we do have several COD, planned COD sales, while those projects are either already COD-ed in the past one or two months, or will be COD-ed within Q3. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:20:14That is within the next forty-five days, so we have the confidence that those COD assets are so valuable and people are, even today, visiting our COD sites. Okay, so we feel good by closing those deals, but definitely, as I see your question is challenging, that we do have one deal in Europe. It's a pretty high revenue expectation and margin the same, so I expect some risk, but at this time, we have very high confidence to close all those expected deals. Philip ShenSenior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:20:55Great. In that deal in Europe that has high revenue, can you share the megawatts, maybe what country it's in? Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:21:05We cannot go into that detail as those are on exclusive basis with the buyers, targeted buyers. And then, I think by the time when we go into next earnings call, we do plan to give more details on the closing targets. Philip ShenSenior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:21:26Okay, great. Thanks, Yumin. Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:21:28Thank you, Phil. Philip ShenSenior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:21:31Shifting over to your $2 million of write-offs of canceled projects. I think you guys had a similar amount on the last quarter, Q1, and wanted to see if we should expect $2 million for this coming Q3, maybe even Q4. How much more is there, and what are the root causes of these canceled projects? Is it like you were saying earlier, in terms of Spain, you know, the government's changing some of the situation, or, you know, is it more concentrated in U.S. or Europe, my guess is? So just give us some more color on what to expect ahead for the canceled and write-off projects. Ke ChenCFO at Emeren Group Ltd00:22:20Yeah. Philip ShenSenior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:22:21Thanks. Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:22:21Yes, Phil, again, the specific write-off related to U.S. Again, you probably know the challenge of interconnecting those kind of normal stuff happening in U.S. However, going forward, we are not expecting that, in especially the second half, we don't expect any big write-off going forward in the second half. Philip ShenSenior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:22:43Got it. Great. Thank you. And then one last thing. You guys talked about having $100 million in cash by the end of 2024 in the past, and being positive of operating cash flow for the remaining of, you know, for the year, or at least certain quarters of this year. What's your ... I don't see, we don't see it in this material for this quarter. Can you share if you think $100 million is reasonable still by year-end 2024? Or if not, what's the burn that you expect, and how much cash do you think you could have by year-end? Thanks. Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:23:20Yes. Based on our forecast, again, we're confident about our outlook here. As we mentioned, you mentioned part of this COD sales will happen in the fourth quarter, so we are still confident to collect all this cash by end of this year. And we'll also expect, you know, on a full year basis, we should be operating cash flow positive. Philip ShenSenior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:23:44Great. Appreciate that, Ke. Okay, I'll pass it on. Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:23:47Thank you, Phil. Thank you. Operator00:23:50Thank you. Our next question comes from Amit Dayal with H.C. Wainwright. You may proceed. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:23:58Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. So, Yumin, with respect to the guidance for the remainder of the year, you know, you're saying you could potentially do $28 million in net income on roughly, say, $100-$110 million – $110-$120 million in sales. I'm just trying to get a sense of, you know, what's driving this significant level of profitability for the revenues that you are expecting to recognize in the second half? Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:24:29... I think the I would say three reasons coming to our confidence level. One is, as I mentioned, that we have worked on bunch of expected closings starting over two, three months ago, and we do expect to close them in the second half. The second is, the significant part of the revenue may come or will come from the COD sales, and those COD are either reached or are to be reached within Q3. So the COD assets are pretty valuable and hotspot to be chased upon by buyers. And as I mentioned also, that we even have one COD buyer visiting our site today. So those are all on exclusive basis, and we are so confident those will be done. And definitely, we have all those contracts, including DSAs, under the negotiation, we believe we can close now. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:25:36Understood. And, my question was more around margins, you know. So you feel that the price you will receive for these assets will support these levels of, margin expectation that you have for the second half? Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:25:50Yes. Although COD margin is normally lower, but in general, our biz model on the NTP or RTP sale, plus DSA, provide a very healthy margin. And including our IPP assets, those are also high-margin deals. And again, we talk about COD sale, but the margin, our main focus will still be on the RTP, NTP sale, both in Europe and the US. So margin contribution will also come from our strength of NTP, RTP sale, plus DSA and IPP, which Yumin just mentioned. So we're confident about margin in the second half. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:26:34Understood. Thank you for that. And, you know, related to that again, you know, is any of this dependent on, you know, interest rates going lower, any of these deals in the second half, you know, are folks maybe waiting to, you know, pencil these deals once they have clarity on where interest rates will head in the next few months? Ke ChenCFO at Emeren Group Ltd00:26:58Very good question and very good point. I really hope that the buyers will pay a better price with better interest rate or lower interest rate environment. And we believe that should be the case. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:27:15Okay, thank you. Just last one for me with respect to these DSA revenues. Looks like you're getting good traction on that front. Are these DSA revenues, you know, 30% gross margins or higher or lower? Can you give us a sense of what kind of gross margin we should expect from DSA revenues? Ke ChenCFO at Emeren Group Ltd00:27:37I could not release this margin number, but the, it is absolutely a very good model. Literally speaking, in our company, I say there are three keywords: solar, battery storage, and DSA. It is very important to the company operation, but the, unfortunately, I don't think I can release the margin number. And by the way, as we are doing DSA in multiple countries, also on both PV and storage projects, so the margin varies really, pretty bigly. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:28:14Okay, understood. So that's all I have. I will take my other questions offline. Thank you. Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:28:19Thank you very much. Operator00:28:22Thank you. Our next question comes from Donovan Schafer with Northland Capital Markets. You may proceed. Donovan SchaferManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Northland Capital Markets00:28:33Hey, guys. My first question is just for the 1.7 GW of the DSA contracts for BESS in Italy that you have. Is that a subset within the 2 GW of contracted DSA that you have? So, you know, does the implication that, you know, 85%-90% of the 2 GW you have signed contracted for DSA, that 85% of that is BESS in Italy, or are these, like, different buckets? Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:29:10You are right. In fact, it is the case. Our DSA under BESS projects, storage projects, represent over 80% of the whole DSA portfolio. Donovan SchaferManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Northland Capital Markets00:29:22Okay, got it. Helpful. Thank you. And then for, let's see, the write-off, can you clarify just what it was that triggered the write-off? Was it specifically an interconnection delay or, you know, what was the specific bottleneck or parameter or event that triggered the write-off? Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:29:44I think the write-off comes mostly from, it's, by the way, it's a norm for any development company. When we have failed projects, then we have to have the write-offs on the accrued GNAs or the capitalized cost on the projects. But those $2 million specifically are connecting to the interconnection non-approval or challenges we are seeing. Okay? Just as I mentioned, for example, in Spain, for example, in U.S., the interconnection approvals got delayed and delayed. So for some cases, some deals will have to be written off as of those interconnection challenges. Donovan SchaferManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Northland Capital Markets00:30:32... Okay, got it. And then if I can squeeze one more in. You know, in the past, you've talked about monetizing 400-500 megawatts this year. Is that... And I noticed in the letter to shareholders, it says, you know, that the priority, let's see, is, let's see, it says the, "Your priorities include advancing early-stage projects, securing additional DSA partnerships in Europe and U.S., and, you know, maximizing value of development pipeline." So it's not. Is, does that include monetizing advanced stage? It just seems like advanced-stage projects, you've got a lot of megawatts in the advanced-stage category. Are, do you plan on monetizing those? Is that part of, do you still see 400-500 monetization of advanced stage? Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:31:33Yes, absolutely true. Donovan SchaferManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Northland Capital Markets00:31:35Is it a priority? Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:31:36We did not really mention that because monetizing or selling the advanced-stage pipeline is in our, we consider as normal business, okay? We have been doing so in the past years, but the DSA is new. So we mentioned the DSA more, and especially monetizing or the ones in the early-stage portfolio, is also the focus, literally in, speaking in the last almost twelve months. Donovan SchaferManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Northland Capital Markets00:32:12Okay, okay, that's helpful. All right, I'll take the rest of my questions offline. Thanks, guys. Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:32:16Thank you, Donovan. Operator00:32:19Thank you. And as a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. Our next question comes from Graham Price with Raymond James. You may proceed. Graham, your line is now open. Graham PriceSenior Equity Research Associate at Raymond James00:32:46Hey, guys, thanks. I was the first questioner, so you already got to mine. Thanks, though. Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:32:53Oh, thank you, Graham. Operator00:32:55Thank you. And I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the conference back to Mr. Liu for any closing remarks. Yumin LiuCEO at Emeren Group Ltd00:33:04Thank you, operator. The solar industry is experiencing strong momentum due to the global commitment to renewable energy. This shift towards clean energy sources positions solar and battery storage as a key part of the future energy mix. The growing demand for solar power to support AI and blockchain operations is particularly exciting, as these technologies require substantial energy, and solar plus battery storage offers a scalable, cost-effective solution. In conclusion, the future of solar energy is promising, and we are strategically positioned to capitalize on the accelerating adoption of solar and battery storage technology worldwide. With our expertise, industry partnerships, and strong financial foundation, we are advancing towards our goal of becoming a leading global solar and battery storage company. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:34:05We are enthusiastic about the future and proud to be driving the transition to a more sustainable world. Thank you again for joining our call today. Amit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:34:16You may now disconnect. Operator00:34:19Thank you. This concludes the conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesKe ChenCFOYumin LiuCEOAnalystsAmit DayalManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. WainwrightDonovan SchaferManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Northland Capital MarketsGary DvorchakManaging Director at The Blueshirt GroupGraham PriceSenior Equity Research Associate at Raymond JamesPhilip ShenSenior Research Analyst at Roth Capital PartnersPowered by