NASDAQ:LPRO Open Lending Q2 2024 Earnings Report $1.82 +0.03 (+1.68%) Closing price 05/29/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$1.82 -0.01 (-0.27%) As of 05/29/2025 05:24 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Open Lending EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.02Consensus EPS $0.05Beat/MissMissed by -$0.03One Year Ago EPS$0.09Open Lending Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$26.73 millionExpected Revenue$31.03 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$4.30 millionYoY Revenue Growth-29.90%Open Lending Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/8/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, August 8, 2024Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsOpen Lending's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, August 14, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, August 7, 2025 at 5:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Open Lending Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 8, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, and welcome to Open Lending Second Quarter 20 24 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded. On the call today are Chuck Yeo, Chief Financial Officer, Chief Operating Officer and Interim Chief Executive Officer and Cecilia Camarillo, Chief Accounting Officer. Earlier today, the company has posted its Q2 2024 earnings release and supplemental slides to its Investor Relations website. In the release, you will find reconciliations of non GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP financial measures discussed on this call. Operator00:00:41Before we begin, I would like to remind you that this call may contain estimated and other forward looking statements that represent the company's view as of today, August 8, 2024. Open Lending disclaims any obligation to update these statements to reflect future events or circumstances. Please refer to today's earnings release and our filings with the SEC for more information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ from those expressed or implied with such statements. And now, I will pass the call over to Mr. Chuck Kiehl. Operator00:01:18Please go ahead, sir. Speaker 100:01:23Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today for Open Lending's Q2 2024 earnings conference call. I am pleased to report that in the Q2 of 2024, we were near or above the high end of our guidance range for certified loans, revenue and adjusted EBITDA, excluding the negative change in estimate associated with our profit share. For the quarter, we certified nearly 29,000 loans, which represents approximately 3% sequential growth compared to Q1 2024, and we delivered total revenue of $26,700,000 and adjusted EBITDA of $9,900,000 As I mentioned, our results for the Q2 of 2024 were negatively impacted by a $6,700,000 profit share change in estimate. It is important to note that this downward revision is primarily due to elevated delinquencies and defaults associated with vintages originated in 2021 2022, the time of peak vehicle values. Speaker 100:02:22Lower performance from these vintages represents an industry wide headwind and is not unique to Open Lending or our lending customers. As it relates to our more recent vintages, we are encouraged by the early performance of these certified loans due to actions we have taken to tighten our underwriting standards. The initial data reflects a decrease in 60 plus day delinquency rates from a peak of over 2% during the middle of 2022 to a range of 1% to 1.5% currently. With 3 consecutive quarters of delinquency rate improvement within our portfolio, we are optimistic about a return to normalcy as it relates to delinquencies. As you may recall, the actions we took over the past 18 to 24 months principally include: increased insurance premiums to appropriately price for the risk we take implemented a newly enhanced Lenders Protection proprietary scorecard, which has further improved our ability to predict probability of default and price risk. Speaker 100:03:21The new scorecard has now decisioned over 1,800,000 applications, raised our minimum score cutoff to tighten our credit aperture and initiated targeted price optimization by leveraging our new enhanced scorecard and historical performance data to increase prices on lower performing segments of our business. In this period of challenging macroeconomic conditions, we are committed to protecting the profitability of all stakeholders in our ecosystem by appropriately pricing for the risk and selectively saying no to loans that put unnecessary risk on Open Lending, our insurance carrier partners or our lenders. As we continue to navigate past these lower performing vintages, we anticipate that Open Lending's profit share revenue performance should be less volatile. Turning to market conditions. We continue to be encouraged by the trends we are seeing in the automotive industry, specifically improvement in inventory levels, retail sales volumes and affordability, all of which have shown modest year over year improvement. Speaker 100:04:24However, our core credit union customers continue to be challenged with elevated loan to share ratios, low share or deposit growth and low loan growth. First, on the automotive industry. New vehicle inventory levels continue to improve and are up 52% year over year, while used vehicle inventory levels have stabilized at approximately 2,200,000 units. Both new and used inventory levels remain 20% to 25 percent below pre COVID levels, leaving room for continued recovery. Used retail sales volumes were up 4.1% year over year, which as a reminder makes up approximately 85% of Open Lending certified loan volumes historically. Speaker 100:05:08That said, new retail sales volumes have decreased 7.6% year over year. June showed some weakness in new auto retail sales compared to May. We believe June retail numbers for both new and used sales were negatively impacted by the CDK dealer management system software outage. Affordability improved on a year over year basis, primarily driven by declining auto prices. Both new and used auto prices realized a year over year decline with new transaction prices down 0.6% and used list prices down by approximately 7%. Speaker 100:05:46However, average auto loan interest rates remain near recent highs with new vehicle loans at nearly 9% and used vehicle loans at over 14%. These rates continue to significantly impact consumer affordability. Lastly, the Manheim Used Vehicle Value Index, a measure of wholesale used vehicle prices, is down nearly 9% from a year ago and down for the 4th month in a row in 2024. However, per Cox Automotive, the index is projected to be down only approximately 2% at the end of 2024 compared to 2023. Now let's turn to our core credit union customers. Speaker 100:06:27Preliminary Q2 2024 data from Callahan and Associates, a leading third party data provider within the credit union industry, suggests that industry average loan to share ratio, a measure of lending capacity, has declined from its recent peak to approximately 84%. To put this in perspective, historically, the industry average has never exceeded 86%. So it is encouraging to see the industry loan to share ratio beginning to decline. On loan growth, loans across asset classes in the credit union industry grew at 3.8% year over year. Notably, this is the lowest level of loan growth since 2013, indicating our customers continue to face a challenging lending environment. Speaker 100:07:14On share or deposit growth, we are encouraged by the 3rd consecutive quarter of improvement. Share growth of 2.9% was nearly 170 basis points higher than the lows seen in Q3 of 2023. To put this in perspective, prior to 2023, Credit Union share growth had never been below 3%. As we look ahead, we are encouraged by both the improvement in the auto industry and the positive signs that credit unions are well into the recovery process. We have as we have seen in prior cycles, we anticipate that credit unions will once again have healthy loan to share ratios and increase their lending activity to fulfill their mission to serve their members. Speaker 100:07:57We continue to believe there is significant pent up demand among consumers for the transportation they need to carry on with their lives. Recent third party research showed that over 70% of consumers had a stated intent to purchase a vehicle, but almost onethree of consumers were putting off the purchase due to high interest rates and affordability. Additionally, senior lending officers have chosen to shift their focus towards prime and super prime consumers as demonstrated by the retail vehicle registration data. Since interest rate increases began, the retail vehicle registration data shows a 12% growth for borrowers with a 750 plus credit score, while the near and non prime borrowers we serve have experienced a 12% decline. As inventory levels continue to improve, vehicle prices continue to moderate and with the Federal Reserve interest rate cut more likely, we believe we are not far from seeing a more meaningful increase in vehicle sales activity. Speaker 100:08:59While we have been paying close attention to the challenges facing the auto lending industry, we have also taken thoughtful steps to maximize our eventual capture of the pent up demand when market conditions inevitably recover. We aligned our sales and account management teams' incentives to drive new customer acquisitions and certified loan growth from both new and existing customers. We are already seeing positive results from this aligned strategy. In the Q2 of 2024, we signed 13 new credit union customers. Year to date through the end of the second quarter, we have signed 24 new customers, including 1 new bank. Speaker 100:09:36I am pleased to report that of the 13 new customers signed in the Q2 of 2024, 4 of them were larger customers and in aggregate have almost $7,000,000,000 in combined total assets. As a further testament to our enhanced go to market strategy and our sales and account management team members' execution, we have already signed 10 new customers in the 3rd quarter. We continue to believe the Lenders Protection Program can help all lenders serving near and nonprime borrowers to minimize lenders risk and optimize their yield. We have also focused on further strengthening our partnerships with credit union leadership. We recently announced that Dan Berger, former President and CEO of the National Association of Federally Insured Credit Unions or NAFQ had joined Open Lending as strategic advisor. Speaker 100:10:28The partnership is off to a solid start as we are further driving customer engagement and expansion of relationships with credit unions across the country. Turning now to our product and technology. We are actively working on developing solutions that improve the experience of our lender customers and their borrowers. We are focused on assisting and providing solutions to our lenders to help mitigate day to day operating challenges, including increasing lenders' ability to automate decisioning, which allows our lenders to speed up the decision process, increasing their probability of capturing the loan exploring solutions that automate proof of income processing and other tools to minimize dealer and borrower friction assisting lenders with capital markets efforts to provide lending capacity throughout economic cycles by accessing alternative sources of capital and evaluating opportunities to improve the value of our lenders protection product by expanding insurance coverages. As I previously noted, we have taken multiple credit and pricing actions with the expectation of optimizing results for our lenders, our insurance carrier partners and ultimately Open Lending. Speaker 100:11:38Looking ahead, we will continue to leverage the capabilities of our enhanced proprietary scorecard to implement targeted opportunities to drive improved performance and results. Now turning to our insurance carriers. We're excited to add Securian Financial Group as an insurance partner for our Lenders Protection Program during the Q2 of 2024. With high financial strength ratings and a long history and familiarity with credit unions and other lending institution customers, Securian Financial is a great addition to our program and helps us expand our premium capacity in anticipation of our return to growth. While we have been focused on enhancing our product and operations to position us for future growth, we have also taken measures to control and reduce costs. Speaker 100:12:25We are taking a measured approach as it relates to our cost structure and are focused on only adding incremental costs that drive near term revenue growth. Our expectation is we will be well positioned to expand our profit margins as the business grows again by leveraging our existing cost structure. Before I turn the call over to Cecilia to go over our Q2 2024 results in more detail, I wanted to personally thank our entire team at Open Lending for your continued support and dedication to our company and for delivering these positive results despite continued challenging market conditions. I am encouraged by the early signs of improvement in market conditions and remain confident in the long term opportunities ahead of us. The underserved near and nonprime consumers need us and our lender partners now more than ever. Speaker 100:13:16With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Cecilia. Cecilia? Speaker 200:13:20Thanks, Chuck. During the Q2 of 2024, we facilitated 28,963 certified loans compared to 34,354 certified loans in the Q2 of 2023. Total revenue for the Q2 of 2024 was $26,700,000 which includes an ASC 606 negative change in estimate related to historic vintages associated with our profit share of $6,700,000 compared to 38 point $2,000,000 in revenue in the Q2 of 2023, which included a negative change in estimate of $1,200,000 To break down total revenues in the Q2 2024, program fee revenues were $14,800,000 profit share revenues were $9,300,000 net of the previously mentioned negative change in estimate and claims administration fees and other revenue were 2,600,000 dollars As a reminder, profit share revenue comprises the expected earned premiums less the expected claims to be paid over the life of the contracts and less expenses attributable to the program. The net profit share to us is 72% and the monthly receipts from our insurance carriers reduce our contract asset. Profit share revenue in the Q2 of 2024 associated with new originations was $16,000,000 or $5.52 per certified loan as compared to $19,000,000 or $5.53 per certified loan in the Q2 of 2023. Speaker 200:14:52The $6,700,000 negative profit share change in estimate recorded in the current quarter is associated with cumulative total profit share revenue previously recognized of approximately $394,000,000 for periods dating back to January 2019, the ASC 606 implementation date and represents over 411,000 insured in force loans in the portfolio. The cumulative profit share change in estimate since 2019 is a negative $2,400,000 Operating expenses were $17,000,000 in the Q2 of 2024 compared to $16,300,000 in the Q2 of 2023. Operating income was $4,000,000 in the Q2 of 2024 compared to operating income of $15,700,000 in the Q2 of 2023. Net income for the Q2 of 2024 was $2,900,000 compared to a net income of $11,400,000 in the Q2 of 2023. Basic and diluted net income per share was $0.02 in the Q2 of 2024 as compared to $0.09 in the Q2 of 2023. Speaker 200:16:06Adjusted EBITDA for the Q2 of 2024 was $9,900,000 as compared to $20,700,000 in the Q2 of 2023. Excluding profit share revenue change in estimate, we generated $16,600,000 in adjusted EBITDA in the Q2 of 2024. There's a reconciliation of GAAP to non GAAP financial measures that can be found at the back of our earnings press release. We exited the quarter with $382,800,000 in total assets, of which $248,000,000 was in unrestricted cash, $33,700,000 in contract assets and $66,300,000 in net deferred tax assets. We had $166,000,000 in total liabilities, of which $143,300,000 was outstanding debt. Speaker 200:17:00I would now like to turn the call back over to Chuck to discuss our guidance for the Q3. Chuck? Speaker 100:17:05Thanks, Cecilia. Now moving to our Q3 2024 guidance. The following factors were considered in our Q3 2024 guidance: continued elevated interest rates and modestly improving inflationary environment and its corresponding impact on the U. S. Consumer uncertain macroeconomic conditions with rising unemployment rate and slower new job growth, lower than pre COVID auto inventory levels and higher than historical vehicle prices continuing to prevent affordability challenges for consumers new and used retail sales volume that remained lower than pre COVID levels despite year over year improvement near historic high loan to share ratios combined with historically low share growth that continues to limit credit unions' lending capacity and recent credit tightening actions that Open Lending has taken and the corresponding impact on volume. Speaker 100:18:00Additionally, we accounted for normal course of seasonality that we see between the 2nd and third quarter. Accordingly, our guidance for the Q3 of 2024 is as follows: total certified loans to be between $25,000 28,000 total revenue to be between $28,000,000 $31,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA to be between $11,000,000 $14,000,000 We have a strong balance sheet with no near term debt maturities and generate positive cash flow, which provides us with the financial flexibility to make targeted investments to accelerate revenue growth and position us well to capture pent up demand as market conditions continue to improve. Additionally, we continue to focus on optimizing our profitability by both accelerating revenue and controlling cost. We'd like to thank everyone for joining us today, and we will now take your questions. Operator00:18:56Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now be conducting a question and answer Our first question comes from the line of Kyle Peterson with Needham and Company. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:19:36Great. Thanks for taking the questions. Good afternoon, guys. I'm going to start off on the CDK impact. I know you guys mentioned, it sounds like there was an impact. Speaker 300:19:51Just wanted to see kind of if there's any way you guys could quantify that and if that has kind of self corrected into July like kind of I guess where was there some just some push out or just any more color there would be really helpful? Speaker 100:20:10Yes. Kyle, it's Chuck. As we've kind of watched the CDK outage and kind of that unfold, based on the data we've seen, the outage impacted new auto vehicle sales more and that was in our prepared comments. It really limited impact on used auto and as we said in the prepared comments, we're historically about 85% used. So we didn't see a big impact in our Q2 volume related to that and don't expect any impact going forward. Speaker 100:20:41Maybe on the new front, but not on used since it was mainly impacting new. Speaker 300:20:49Okay. That's helpful. And then I guess just a follow-up on the outlook in the 3Q guide. I guess, have you guys factored in a fed rate cut in September in the guide? And I guess could you just remind us how changes in Fed funds or the shape of the yield curve would impact you guys on the refi side of things? Speaker 100:21:22Yes. As we think about the Q3 guide in the prepared comments, in our inputs there, continued elevated interest rates is what we've put in there in a modestly improving inflationary environment, Kyle. So we're hopeful just like everybody that the Fed is going to take action in September and begin lowering rates. And I guess the dot plot is calling for 25 basis point reduction in September. And I think the markets may be anticipating 2, 25 basis point reductions in open lending and our consumers we serve would welcome that and could be a good opportunity for us as we move forward as we think about our refi channel and volumes going forward. Speaker 100:22:09But in the guidance we put out, it continued elevated rates is to answer your question. Operator00:22:16Okay. That's helpful. Thank you, guys. Speaker 100:22:19You bet. Thank you. Operator00:22:20Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of James Faucette with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:22:28Hi, everyone. It's Michael on for James. Thanks for taking our question. I just wanted to ask on the profit share side. Is there any make whole period with profit share specifically with any of your financial partners? Speaker 400:22:39And if so, for how long and by how much? Speaker 100:22:44Yes. I mean, if you think about the make whole on the profit share, there's a period open lending, we don't write checks if the profit share were to go, say, negative for a period of time due to high claims and defaults. But there's basically a recapture of that, that comes back to the carriers with us. I hope I answered your question, but yes. Speaker 400:23:11Yes. That's helpful. Maybe just on the refi side, sort of take your comments just in terms of what you embedded into the outlook. But I guess how are you sort of thinking about refi over the near to medium term, particularly given where historical mix was sort of in the 2021, 2022 timeframe, sort of conscious of somewhat constrained credit union lending demand, which seems to be stabilizingimproving? Thanks. Speaker 100:23:41Yes. No, thank you. Yes, I mean for Q2 of 'twenty four, refi was 3% of our volume. And as you pointed out in 'twenty two, I think we it was February 'twenty two might have been the peak at like 40 plus percent of our volume, and that was prior to the Fed begin raising rates that we've seen over the last, call it, 18 months. As we kind of look forward, I think the most important thing to remember, our credit union customers, our core customer, 75% of our volume historically, still improving signs of loan to share ratios, as we said, are improving there, share growth beginning to build. Speaker 100:24:17All those are great signs as we've seen through past cycles where the health of the credit union and they begin lending again. Rates coming down is great for our business long term and even in the short term, but we also have to have healthy lending capacity at our credit union customers. Speaker 400:24:36Appreciate that. Operator00:24:39Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Vincent Caintic with BTIG. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:24:47Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. First question on the profit share and just kind of digging into that $6,700,000 adjustment. I'm just wondering if you can maybe talk about since there's been a couple of negative adjustments for the past couple of quarters already, sort of what's baked into estimates now? And I guess what would cause profit share adjustments downwards from here? Speaker 500:25:13It does seem like there was a big adjustment this quarter. Speaker 100:25:18Yes. Vincent, good to talk to you again. If you think about kind of the stress we put on the portfolio, we think about it more as a loss ratio approach and there's 3 components to profit share, obviously severity of loss, which is driven by the Manheim Used Vehicle Value Index. You've got default frequency, which is claims and then you've also got prepaid speeds. So all of that goes in the equation. Speaker 100:25:43And the vintage we put on in the second quarter, we had about a 60% ultimate loss ratio on the newer vintages and feel good about that and feel like it's adequate stress. The $6,700,000 that we booked in the Q2, as we put in the prepared comments, it was mainly or primarily associated with 'twenty one and 'twenty two vintages. And that's across the industry. Anybody in auto lending has those are lower performing vintages at the time they were at the peak of the Manheim in the used vehicle values. We believe that we're working through those. Speaker 100:26:22The typical claim period for a claim or default is 18 to 24 months out, and we're getting to that point in past on those worst performing vintages. So that's higher claims in default and then the Manheim moved down a little more than we thought in the Q2. But if you also in the prepared comments, Cox is forecasting Manheim to only be down about 2% for the year. And as of June, it was down 9%. So the Manheim is and actually went up on the July print about 3%, I believe, to 201. Speaker 100:27:00So that Manheim is, we believe, is stabilizing out and vehicle values are stable, and that's going to be good for our business. Speaker 500:27:10Okay. Thank you. And then just following up on that then. Yes. Speaker 100:27:14And real quick, and we believe as we work through these vintages that in our prepared comments that our profit share will be less volatile. And in Cecilia's points about the cumulative effect, we can't lose sight that when we adopted this pronouncement in 2019, we've had $394,000,000 in total profit share revenue. And yes, we had some really good years there during the pandemic and the stimulus to where we had really positive adjustments. And we've had a few negative adjustments here lately based on those lower performing vintages. But still all in, it's it's immaterial at $2,200,000 negative. Speaker 100:27:53So just don't want to lose sight of that. Speaker 500:27:56Right. That's helpful. And then to your point about these 2021 and 22 vintages, you worked through them over 18 to 24 months. So would it be correct to think that maybe by the end of this year, maybe by early 2025 after we get through 24 months that we would have already gotten past the issues of these entities? Speaker 100:28:20That's correct. They're mostly yes, those are mostly behind it. That's right. Speaker 500:28:26Okay, great. And then just one more for me, switching to the certification volume. Just sort of wondering if you can differentiate what you're expecting in terms of the OEM certification volume versus the Bank and Credit Union volume. It looks like the bank and credit union grew a little bit this quarter, OEMs shrunk a little bit this quarter. So just kind of wondering if you can expand on sort of what you're seeing with your outlook going forward? Speaker 100:28:55Yes. I'd say on if you think about the guide that we put out there, I'd say a similar mix to Q2 between the credit unions and the OEMs that you saw in the 2nd quarter. Speaker 500:29:11Okay. All right. That's helpful. Thanks very much. Speaker 100:29:14Thank you. Operator00:29:15Thank you. Our next question is from the line of John Davis with Raymond James. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:29:23Hi, this is Taylor on for J. D. Thanks for taking the question. Maybe if I can just follow-up on the last question. It looks like OEM search declined year over year for the first time in a while this quarter. Speaker 500:29:36So just any color you could provide there on what drove the year over year decline would be great. Speaker 100:29:44Yes. On the OEMs, on the Q2 of 'twenty four to 'twenty three, I'd say it's just maybe the environment itself and a little bit of mix there between the customers. And but the OEM incentives are coming back. We put in some credit tightening across some of our tiers and did a premium increase to appropriately price for the risk. And so some of that's probably baking in there on the tightening actions that we took because as we think about it, we want to put good loans on the books and for our partners, lender partners, our carriers as well as Open Lending. Speaker 100:30:24So part of that could just be the tightening actions that we Speaker 500:30:28took. Great. Thanks for the color. Operator00:30:33Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, as there are no further questions, I would now hand the conference over to Chuck Yale for his closing comments. Speaker 100:30:43We'd like to thank everyone for joining us today and appreciate your interest and support. And I'd like again to thank all of the employees, the entire team at Open Lending for your hard work and dedication and all you do for our company. Thanks and have a great day. Operator00:30:58Thank you. The conference of Open Lending Corporation has now concluded. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.Read morePowered by Key Takeaways Open Lending reported Q2 2024 results near or above the high end of guidance with 28,963 certified loans (3% sequential growth), $26.7 million in revenue and $9.9 million in adjusted EBITDA despite a $6.7 million negative profit-share adjustment tied to elevated delinquencies on 2021–22 vintages. Early performance of recent vintages has improved, with 60-day delinquency rates falling from over 2% in mid-2022 to 1–1.5%, driven by tightened underwriting, higher insurance premiums, an enhanced proprietary scorecard and targeted price optimization. Auto market trends are mixed: new and used inventories remain 20–25% below pre-COVID levels, used retail sales are up 4.1% year-over-year and affordability has improved via lower prices, but average loan rates near 9% (new) and 14% (used) continue to pressure consumers. Credit union customers show signs of recovery as the industry loan-to-share ratio eased from historic highs to ~84% and share growth improved to 2.9%, while Open Lending signed 13 new credit unions in Q2 (24 YTD) and added former NAFCU CEO Dan Berger as a strategic advisor. For Q3 2024, Open Lending expects 25,000–28,000 certified loans, $28 million–$31 million in revenue and $11 million–$14 million in adjusted EBITDA, assuming continued elevated rates, modest economic improvement and normal seasonality. AI Generated. 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There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, and welcome to Open Lending Second Quarter 20 24 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded. On the call today are Chuck Yeo, Chief Financial Officer, Chief Operating Officer and Interim Chief Executive Officer and Cecilia Camarillo, Chief Accounting Officer. Earlier today, the company has posted its Q2 2024 earnings release and supplemental slides to its Investor Relations website. In the release, you will find reconciliations of non GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP financial measures discussed on this call. Operator00:00:41Before we begin, I would like to remind you that this call may contain estimated and other forward looking statements that represent the company's view as of today, August 8, 2024. Open Lending disclaims any obligation to update these statements to reflect future events or circumstances. Please refer to today's earnings release and our filings with the SEC for more information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ from those expressed or implied with such statements. And now, I will pass the call over to Mr. Chuck Kiehl. Operator00:01:18Please go ahead, sir. Speaker 100:01:23Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today for Open Lending's Q2 2024 earnings conference call. I am pleased to report that in the Q2 of 2024, we were near or above the high end of our guidance range for certified loans, revenue and adjusted EBITDA, excluding the negative change in estimate associated with our profit share. For the quarter, we certified nearly 29,000 loans, which represents approximately 3% sequential growth compared to Q1 2024, and we delivered total revenue of $26,700,000 and adjusted EBITDA of $9,900,000 As I mentioned, our results for the Q2 of 2024 were negatively impacted by a $6,700,000 profit share change in estimate. It is important to note that this downward revision is primarily due to elevated delinquencies and defaults associated with vintages originated in 2021 2022, the time of peak vehicle values. Speaker 100:02:22Lower performance from these vintages represents an industry wide headwind and is not unique to Open Lending or our lending customers. As it relates to our more recent vintages, we are encouraged by the early performance of these certified loans due to actions we have taken to tighten our underwriting standards. The initial data reflects a decrease in 60 plus day delinquency rates from a peak of over 2% during the middle of 2022 to a range of 1% to 1.5% currently. With 3 consecutive quarters of delinquency rate improvement within our portfolio, we are optimistic about a return to normalcy as it relates to delinquencies. As you may recall, the actions we took over the past 18 to 24 months principally include: increased insurance premiums to appropriately price for the risk we take implemented a newly enhanced Lenders Protection proprietary scorecard, which has further improved our ability to predict probability of default and price risk. Speaker 100:03:21The new scorecard has now decisioned over 1,800,000 applications, raised our minimum score cutoff to tighten our credit aperture and initiated targeted price optimization by leveraging our new enhanced scorecard and historical performance data to increase prices on lower performing segments of our business. In this period of challenging macroeconomic conditions, we are committed to protecting the profitability of all stakeholders in our ecosystem by appropriately pricing for the risk and selectively saying no to loans that put unnecessary risk on Open Lending, our insurance carrier partners or our lenders. As we continue to navigate past these lower performing vintages, we anticipate that Open Lending's profit share revenue performance should be less volatile. Turning to market conditions. We continue to be encouraged by the trends we are seeing in the automotive industry, specifically improvement in inventory levels, retail sales volumes and affordability, all of which have shown modest year over year improvement. Speaker 100:04:24However, our core credit union customers continue to be challenged with elevated loan to share ratios, low share or deposit growth and low loan growth. First, on the automotive industry. New vehicle inventory levels continue to improve and are up 52% year over year, while used vehicle inventory levels have stabilized at approximately 2,200,000 units. Both new and used inventory levels remain 20% to 25 percent below pre COVID levels, leaving room for continued recovery. Used retail sales volumes were up 4.1% year over year, which as a reminder makes up approximately 85% of Open Lending certified loan volumes historically. Speaker 100:05:08That said, new retail sales volumes have decreased 7.6% year over year. June showed some weakness in new auto retail sales compared to May. We believe June retail numbers for both new and used sales were negatively impacted by the CDK dealer management system software outage. Affordability improved on a year over year basis, primarily driven by declining auto prices. Both new and used auto prices realized a year over year decline with new transaction prices down 0.6% and used list prices down by approximately 7%. Speaker 100:05:46However, average auto loan interest rates remain near recent highs with new vehicle loans at nearly 9% and used vehicle loans at over 14%. These rates continue to significantly impact consumer affordability. Lastly, the Manheim Used Vehicle Value Index, a measure of wholesale used vehicle prices, is down nearly 9% from a year ago and down for the 4th month in a row in 2024. However, per Cox Automotive, the index is projected to be down only approximately 2% at the end of 2024 compared to 2023. Now let's turn to our core credit union customers. Speaker 100:06:27Preliminary Q2 2024 data from Callahan and Associates, a leading third party data provider within the credit union industry, suggests that industry average loan to share ratio, a measure of lending capacity, has declined from its recent peak to approximately 84%. To put this in perspective, historically, the industry average has never exceeded 86%. So it is encouraging to see the industry loan to share ratio beginning to decline. On loan growth, loans across asset classes in the credit union industry grew at 3.8% year over year. Notably, this is the lowest level of loan growth since 2013, indicating our customers continue to face a challenging lending environment. Speaker 100:07:14On share or deposit growth, we are encouraged by the 3rd consecutive quarter of improvement. Share growth of 2.9% was nearly 170 basis points higher than the lows seen in Q3 of 2023. To put this in perspective, prior to 2023, Credit Union share growth had never been below 3%. As we look ahead, we are encouraged by both the improvement in the auto industry and the positive signs that credit unions are well into the recovery process. We have as we have seen in prior cycles, we anticipate that credit unions will once again have healthy loan to share ratios and increase their lending activity to fulfill their mission to serve their members. Speaker 100:07:57We continue to believe there is significant pent up demand among consumers for the transportation they need to carry on with their lives. Recent third party research showed that over 70% of consumers had a stated intent to purchase a vehicle, but almost onethree of consumers were putting off the purchase due to high interest rates and affordability. Additionally, senior lending officers have chosen to shift their focus towards prime and super prime consumers as demonstrated by the retail vehicle registration data. Since interest rate increases began, the retail vehicle registration data shows a 12% growth for borrowers with a 750 plus credit score, while the near and non prime borrowers we serve have experienced a 12% decline. As inventory levels continue to improve, vehicle prices continue to moderate and with the Federal Reserve interest rate cut more likely, we believe we are not far from seeing a more meaningful increase in vehicle sales activity. Speaker 100:08:59While we have been paying close attention to the challenges facing the auto lending industry, we have also taken thoughtful steps to maximize our eventual capture of the pent up demand when market conditions inevitably recover. We aligned our sales and account management teams' incentives to drive new customer acquisitions and certified loan growth from both new and existing customers. We are already seeing positive results from this aligned strategy. In the Q2 of 2024, we signed 13 new credit union customers. Year to date through the end of the second quarter, we have signed 24 new customers, including 1 new bank. Speaker 100:09:36I am pleased to report that of the 13 new customers signed in the Q2 of 2024, 4 of them were larger customers and in aggregate have almost $7,000,000,000 in combined total assets. As a further testament to our enhanced go to market strategy and our sales and account management team members' execution, we have already signed 10 new customers in the 3rd quarter. We continue to believe the Lenders Protection Program can help all lenders serving near and nonprime borrowers to minimize lenders risk and optimize their yield. We have also focused on further strengthening our partnerships with credit union leadership. We recently announced that Dan Berger, former President and CEO of the National Association of Federally Insured Credit Unions or NAFQ had joined Open Lending as strategic advisor. Speaker 100:10:28The partnership is off to a solid start as we are further driving customer engagement and expansion of relationships with credit unions across the country. Turning now to our product and technology. We are actively working on developing solutions that improve the experience of our lender customers and their borrowers. We are focused on assisting and providing solutions to our lenders to help mitigate day to day operating challenges, including increasing lenders' ability to automate decisioning, which allows our lenders to speed up the decision process, increasing their probability of capturing the loan exploring solutions that automate proof of income processing and other tools to minimize dealer and borrower friction assisting lenders with capital markets efforts to provide lending capacity throughout economic cycles by accessing alternative sources of capital and evaluating opportunities to improve the value of our lenders protection product by expanding insurance coverages. As I previously noted, we have taken multiple credit and pricing actions with the expectation of optimizing results for our lenders, our insurance carrier partners and ultimately Open Lending. Speaker 100:11:38Looking ahead, we will continue to leverage the capabilities of our enhanced proprietary scorecard to implement targeted opportunities to drive improved performance and results. Now turning to our insurance carriers. We're excited to add Securian Financial Group as an insurance partner for our Lenders Protection Program during the Q2 of 2024. With high financial strength ratings and a long history and familiarity with credit unions and other lending institution customers, Securian Financial is a great addition to our program and helps us expand our premium capacity in anticipation of our return to growth. While we have been focused on enhancing our product and operations to position us for future growth, we have also taken measures to control and reduce costs. Speaker 100:12:25We are taking a measured approach as it relates to our cost structure and are focused on only adding incremental costs that drive near term revenue growth. Our expectation is we will be well positioned to expand our profit margins as the business grows again by leveraging our existing cost structure. Before I turn the call over to Cecilia to go over our Q2 2024 results in more detail, I wanted to personally thank our entire team at Open Lending for your continued support and dedication to our company and for delivering these positive results despite continued challenging market conditions. I am encouraged by the early signs of improvement in market conditions and remain confident in the long term opportunities ahead of us. The underserved near and nonprime consumers need us and our lender partners now more than ever. Speaker 100:13:16With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Cecilia. Cecilia? Speaker 200:13:20Thanks, Chuck. During the Q2 of 2024, we facilitated 28,963 certified loans compared to 34,354 certified loans in the Q2 of 2023. Total revenue for the Q2 of 2024 was $26,700,000 which includes an ASC 606 negative change in estimate related to historic vintages associated with our profit share of $6,700,000 compared to 38 point $2,000,000 in revenue in the Q2 of 2023, which included a negative change in estimate of $1,200,000 To break down total revenues in the Q2 2024, program fee revenues were $14,800,000 profit share revenues were $9,300,000 net of the previously mentioned negative change in estimate and claims administration fees and other revenue were 2,600,000 dollars As a reminder, profit share revenue comprises the expected earned premiums less the expected claims to be paid over the life of the contracts and less expenses attributable to the program. The net profit share to us is 72% and the monthly receipts from our insurance carriers reduce our contract asset. Profit share revenue in the Q2 of 2024 associated with new originations was $16,000,000 or $5.52 per certified loan as compared to $19,000,000 or $5.53 per certified loan in the Q2 of 2023. Speaker 200:14:52The $6,700,000 negative profit share change in estimate recorded in the current quarter is associated with cumulative total profit share revenue previously recognized of approximately $394,000,000 for periods dating back to January 2019, the ASC 606 implementation date and represents over 411,000 insured in force loans in the portfolio. The cumulative profit share change in estimate since 2019 is a negative $2,400,000 Operating expenses were $17,000,000 in the Q2 of 2024 compared to $16,300,000 in the Q2 of 2023. Operating income was $4,000,000 in the Q2 of 2024 compared to operating income of $15,700,000 in the Q2 of 2023. Net income for the Q2 of 2024 was $2,900,000 compared to a net income of $11,400,000 in the Q2 of 2023. Basic and diluted net income per share was $0.02 in the Q2 of 2024 as compared to $0.09 in the Q2 of 2023. Speaker 200:16:06Adjusted EBITDA for the Q2 of 2024 was $9,900,000 as compared to $20,700,000 in the Q2 of 2023. Excluding profit share revenue change in estimate, we generated $16,600,000 in adjusted EBITDA in the Q2 of 2024. There's a reconciliation of GAAP to non GAAP financial measures that can be found at the back of our earnings press release. We exited the quarter with $382,800,000 in total assets, of which $248,000,000 was in unrestricted cash, $33,700,000 in contract assets and $66,300,000 in net deferred tax assets. We had $166,000,000 in total liabilities, of which $143,300,000 was outstanding debt. Speaker 200:17:00I would now like to turn the call back over to Chuck to discuss our guidance for the Q3. Chuck? Speaker 100:17:05Thanks, Cecilia. Now moving to our Q3 2024 guidance. The following factors were considered in our Q3 2024 guidance: continued elevated interest rates and modestly improving inflationary environment and its corresponding impact on the U. S. Consumer uncertain macroeconomic conditions with rising unemployment rate and slower new job growth, lower than pre COVID auto inventory levels and higher than historical vehicle prices continuing to prevent affordability challenges for consumers new and used retail sales volume that remained lower than pre COVID levels despite year over year improvement near historic high loan to share ratios combined with historically low share growth that continues to limit credit unions' lending capacity and recent credit tightening actions that Open Lending has taken and the corresponding impact on volume. Speaker 100:18:00Additionally, we accounted for normal course of seasonality that we see between the 2nd and third quarter. Accordingly, our guidance for the Q3 of 2024 is as follows: total certified loans to be between $25,000 28,000 total revenue to be between $28,000,000 $31,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA to be between $11,000,000 $14,000,000 We have a strong balance sheet with no near term debt maturities and generate positive cash flow, which provides us with the financial flexibility to make targeted investments to accelerate revenue growth and position us well to capture pent up demand as market conditions continue to improve. Additionally, we continue to focus on optimizing our profitability by both accelerating revenue and controlling cost. We'd like to thank everyone for joining us today, and we will now take your questions. Operator00:18:56Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now be conducting a question and answer Our first question comes from the line of Kyle Peterson with Needham and Company. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:19:36Great. Thanks for taking the questions. Good afternoon, guys. I'm going to start off on the CDK impact. I know you guys mentioned, it sounds like there was an impact. Speaker 300:19:51Just wanted to see kind of if there's any way you guys could quantify that and if that has kind of self corrected into July like kind of I guess where was there some just some push out or just any more color there would be really helpful? Speaker 100:20:10Yes. Kyle, it's Chuck. As we've kind of watched the CDK outage and kind of that unfold, based on the data we've seen, the outage impacted new auto vehicle sales more and that was in our prepared comments. It really limited impact on used auto and as we said in the prepared comments, we're historically about 85% used. So we didn't see a big impact in our Q2 volume related to that and don't expect any impact going forward. Speaker 100:20:41Maybe on the new front, but not on used since it was mainly impacting new. Speaker 300:20:49Okay. That's helpful. And then I guess just a follow-up on the outlook in the 3Q guide. I guess, have you guys factored in a fed rate cut in September in the guide? And I guess could you just remind us how changes in Fed funds or the shape of the yield curve would impact you guys on the refi side of things? Speaker 100:21:22Yes. As we think about the Q3 guide in the prepared comments, in our inputs there, continued elevated interest rates is what we've put in there in a modestly improving inflationary environment, Kyle. So we're hopeful just like everybody that the Fed is going to take action in September and begin lowering rates. And I guess the dot plot is calling for 25 basis point reduction in September. And I think the markets may be anticipating 2, 25 basis point reductions in open lending and our consumers we serve would welcome that and could be a good opportunity for us as we move forward as we think about our refi channel and volumes going forward. Speaker 100:22:09But in the guidance we put out, it continued elevated rates is to answer your question. Operator00:22:16Okay. That's helpful. Thank you, guys. Speaker 100:22:19You bet. Thank you. Operator00:22:20Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of James Faucette with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:22:28Hi, everyone. It's Michael on for James. Thanks for taking our question. I just wanted to ask on the profit share side. Is there any make whole period with profit share specifically with any of your financial partners? Speaker 400:22:39And if so, for how long and by how much? Speaker 100:22:44Yes. I mean, if you think about the make whole on the profit share, there's a period open lending, we don't write checks if the profit share were to go, say, negative for a period of time due to high claims and defaults. But there's basically a recapture of that, that comes back to the carriers with us. I hope I answered your question, but yes. Speaker 400:23:11Yes. That's helpful. Maybe just on the refi side, sort of take your comments just in terms of what you embedded into the outlook. But I guess how are you sort of thinking about refi over the near to medium term, particularly given where historical mix was sort of in the 2021, 2022 timeframe, sort of conscious of somewhat constrained credit union lending demand, which seems to be stabilizingimproving? Thanks. Speaker 100:23:41Yes. No, thank you. Yes, I mean for Q2 of 'twenty four, refi was 3% of our volume. And as you pointed out in 'twenty two, I think we it was February 'twenty two might have been the peak at like 40 plus percent of our volume, and that was prior to the Fed begin raising rates that we've seen over the last, call it, 18 months. As we kind of look forward, I think the most important thing to remember, our credit union customers, our core customer, 75% of our volume historically, still improving signs of loan to share ratios, as we said, are improving there, share growth beginning to build. Speaker 100:24:17All those are great signs as we've seen through past cycles where the health of the credit union and they begin lending again. Rates coming down is great for our business long term and even in the short term, but we also have to have healthy lending capacity at our credit union customers. Speaker 400:24:36Appreciate that. Operator00:24:39Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Vincent Caintic with BTIG. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:24:47Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. First question on the profit share and just kind of digging into that $6,700,000 adjustment. I'm just wondering if you can maybe talk about since there's been a couple of negative adjustments for the past couple of quarters already, sort of what's baked into estimates now? And I guess what would cause profit share adjustments downwards from here? Speaker 500:25:13It does seem like there was a big adjustment this quarter. Speaker 100:25:18Yes. Vincent, good to talk to you again. If you think about kind of the stress we put on the portfolio, we think about it more as a loss ratio approach and there's 3 components to profit share, obviously severity of loss, which is driven by the Manheim Used Vehicle Value Index. You've got default frequency, which is claims and then you've also got prepaid speeds. So all of that goes in the equation. Speaker 100:25:43And the vintage we put on in the second quarter, we had about a 60% ultimate loss ratio on the newer vintages and feel good about that and feel like it's adequate stress. The $6,700,000 that we booked in the Q2, as we put in the prepared comments, it was mainly or primarily associated with 'twenty one and 'twenty two vintages. And that's across the industry. Anybody in auto lending has those are lower performing vintages at the time they were at the peak of the Manheim in the used vehicle values. We believe that we're working through those. Speaker 100:26:22The typical claim period for a claim or default is 18 to 24 months out, and we're getting to that point in past on those worst performing vintages. So that's higher claims in default and then the Manheim moved down a little more than we thought in the Q2. But if you also in the prepared comments, Cox is forecasting Manheim to only be down about 2% for the year. And as of June, it was down 9%. So the Manheim is and actually went up on the July print about 3%, I believe, to 201. Speaker 100:27:00So that Manheim is, we believe, is stabilizing out and vehicle values are stable, and that's going to be good for our business. Speaker 500:27:10Okay. Thank you. And then just following up on that then. Yes. Speaker 100:27:14And real quick, and we believe as we work through these vintages that in our prepared comments that our profit share will be less volatile. And in Cecilia's points about the cumulative effect, we can't lose sight that when we adopted this pronouncement in 2019, we've had $394,000,000 in total profit share revenue. And yes, we had some really good years there during the pandemic and the stimulus to where we had really positive adjustments. And we've had a few negative adjustments here lately based on those lower performing vintages. But still all in, it's it's immaterial at $2,200,000 negative. Speaker 100:27:53So just don't want to lose sight of that. Speaker 500:27:56Right. That's helpful. And then to your point about these 2021 and 22 vintages, you worked through them over 18 to 24 months. So would it be correct to think that maybe by the end of this year, maybe by early 2025 after we get through 24 months that we would have already gotten past the issues of these entities? Speaker 100:28:20That's correct. They're mostly yes, those are mostly behind it. That's right. Speaker 500:28:26Okay, great. And then just one more for me, switching to the certification volume. Just sort of wondering if you can differentiate what you're expecting in terms of the OEM certification volume versus the Bank and Credit Union volume. It looks like the bank and credit union grew a little bit this quarter, OEMs shrunk a little bit this quarter. So just kind of wondering if you can expand on sort of what you're seeing with your outlook going forward? Speaker 100:28:55Yes. I'd say on if you think about the guide that we put out there, I'd say a similar mix to Q2 between the credit unions and the OEMs that you saw in the 2nd quarter. Speaker 500:29:11Okay. All right. That's helpful. Thanks very much. Speaker 100:29:14Thank you. Operator00:29:15Thank you. Our next question is from the line of John Davis with Raymond James. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:29:23Hi, this is Taylor on for J. D. Thanks for taking the question. Maybe if I can just follow-up on the last question. It looks like OEM search declined year over year for the first time in a while this quarter. Speaker 500:29:36So just any color you could provide there on what drove the year over year decline would be great. Speaker 100:29:44Yes. On the OEMs, on the Q2 of 'twenty four to 'twenty three, I'd say it's just maybe the environment itself and a little bit of mix there between the customers. And but the OEM incentives are coming back. We put in some credit tightening across some of our tiers and did a premium increase to appropriately price for the risk. And so some of that's probably baking in there on the tightening actions that we took because as we think about it, we want to put good loans on the books and for our partners, lender partners, our carriers as well as Open Lending. Speaker 100:30:24So part of that could just be the tightening actions that we Speaker 500:30:28took. Great. Thanks for the color. Operator00:30:33Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, as there are no further questions, I would now hand the conference over to Chuck Yale for his closing comments. Speaker 100:30:43We'd like to thank everyone for joining us today and appreciate your interest and support. And I'd like again to thank all of the employees, the entire team at Open Lending for your hard work and dedication and all you do for our company. Thanks and have a great day. Operator00:30:58Thank you. The conference of Open Lending Corporation has now concluded. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.Read morePowered by