NASDAQ:CVV CVD Equipment Q3 2025 Earnings Report $4.40 +0.01 (+0.23%) Closing price 09/25/2026 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$4.41 +0.01 (+0.23%) As of 09/25/2026 07:52 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast CVD Equipment EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.06Consensus EPS N/ABeat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/ACVD Equipment Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$7.41 millionExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/ACVD Equipment Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2025Date11/10/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateMonday, November 10, 2025Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsCVD Equipment's Q3 2026 earnings is estimated for Tuesday, November 10, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled on Monday, November 9, 2026 at 5:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by CVD Equipment Q3 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 10, 2025ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Negative Sentiment: Orders and backlog weakened meaningfully, with nine-month orders down to $9.5 million from $21 million a year earlier and backlog falling to $8.0 million at Sept 30 after converting work to revenue. Positive Sentiment: The Board approved a transformation plan to outsource certain fabrication, reduce the CVD division workforce, and revise sales channels, targeting about $2.0 million in annual operating cost savings beginning in 2026. Positive Sentiment: Profitability improved in Q3: gross profit was $2.4 million with a 32.7% gross margin, operating income rose to $308,000, and net income was $384,000 versus $203,000 a year ago. Positive Sentiment: Commercial traction in the silicon carbide market continues, including a new order from Stony Brook for two PBT150 systems and ongoing development of the PBT200 200mm SiC platform targeting high‑power electronics and other wide‑bandgap materials. Negative Sentiment: Cash and operating cash flow pressures remain: cash fell to $8.4 million from $12.6 million at year-end and net cash used in operations was $4.1 million YTD, with a Q4 severance charge (~$100,000) and potential future impairment charges possible. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallCVD Equipment Q3 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good afternoon and welcome to the CVD Equipment Corporation third quarter 2025 earnings conference call. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. We will begin with prepared remarks followed by a question and answer session. Presenting on today's call are Emmanuel Lakios, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Richard Catalano, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Our earnings press release and call replay information are available in the investor relations section of our website at www.cvdequipment.com. Before we begin, please note the comments made during this call may include forward-looking statements, including those related to our future financial performance, market growth, demand for our products, and overall business outlook. These statements are based on current expectations and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. Operator00:00:54For a detailed discussion of these risks, please refer to our filings with the SEC, including the risk factor section of our Form 10-K for the year ended December 31st, 2024. We assume no obligation to update any forward-looking statements except as required by law. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Emmanuel Lakios, President and CEO. Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:01:16Thank you, Paul, and good afternoon, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today to review our third quarter 2025 financial results and to provide an update on our business and strategic initiatives. After our prepared remarks, we look forward to taking your questions. For the third quarter 2025, revenue was $7.4 million, a 9.6% decrease from prior year quarter, and a 44.9% increase compared to the second quarter of this year. Revenue to date was $20.8 million and was 7.1% higher than the same period 2024. Orders for the third quarter totaled $2.2 million, primarily driven by continued demand in our SDC segment for gas delivery systems. For the nine months of 2025, total orders were $9.5 million compared to $21 million in the same period last year. Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:02:23At September 30th, 2025, backlog stood at $8 million compared to $13.2 million at June 30th, 2025, as we converted backlog to revenue in the quarter. Our third quarter and year-to-date bookings were influenced by several external factors, including uncertainties related to proposed tariffs, reduced U.S. government funding for university and U.S. government shutdown, and timing in the product adoption within our growth markets. In response to the ongoing fluctuations in our order rate and the recent decline in bookings within the CVD Equipment Division, our Board of Directors has approved a comprehensive transformation strategy aimed at significantly reducing fixed operating costs and creating a more agile organization. Key elements of this plan include transitioning CVD equipment business from vertically integrated fabrication to outsourced fabrication of certain components, enabling us to reduce our fixed costs and improve scalability. Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:03:44A workforce reduction in the CVD Equipment Division to be completed by year-end 2025 expected to reduce the annual operating costs by approximately $2 million beginning in 2026. To note, the SDC division will not be impacted by these actions. Revising our sales approach by leveraging distributors and external representatives to complement our internal sales force and broadening our market reach. Exploring strategic alternatives for certain businesses and product lines, which could include asset sales and divestments. Together, these initiatives will allow us to focus on our core strengths, which are engineering design, assembly, test, installation, and customer service, all while driving greater efficiency and long-term profitability. We remain encouraged by the opportunities ahead in our target markets, aerospace and defense, industrial applications, which include silicon carbide on graphite, silicon carbide high-power electronics, and electric vehicle battery materials. Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:05:04As an update on opportunities in the silicon carbide bull market, in October 2025, we announced a new order from Stony Brook University for two PBT150 physical vapor transport systems to support their center established by Onsemi Silicon Carbide Crystal Growth Center. We're proud to play a role in advancing semiconductor materials research and support critical technologies in artificial intelligence and electrification. We are continuing the development of our 200 mm silicon carbide crystal growth process using our PBT200 system targeted at the high-power electronics market. This same platform is being evaluated for other wide-band gas backgap materials such as aluminum nitride. Our reactive design and control architecture deliver the precision and repeatability needed for next-generation material production. CVD remains well-positioned across multiple growth markets. We believe that our transformation initiatives will strengthen our foundation and will better support our goal of achieving profitability and positive cash flow. Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:06:25With that, I'll now turn over the call to our CFO, Rich Catalano, to review our financial results in more detail. Richard CatalanoEVP and CFO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:06:35Thank you, Manny, and good afternoon, everyone. Third quarter 2025 revenue was $7.4 million compared to $8.2 million in Q3 of 2024. The quarter-over-quarter decrease was primarily due to the absence of revenue from our mesoscrybe segment, which ceased operation in 2024. Revenue from our CVD equipment segment was driven by three key customers, representing approximately 55% of total revenue for the quarter. A contract modification during the third quarter allowed us to recognize revenue in Q3, contributing approximately $1 million. This was a change only in the timing of the revenue recognition. Our SDC segment reported $1.7 million in revenue, down slightly from $1.9 million in Q3 2024 due to fewer contracts in progress, but they continue to have a strong backlog. The company gross profit for the quarter was $2.4 million, with a gross margin of 32.7%. Richard CatalanoEVP and CFO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:07:35This is compared to $1.8 million and 21.5% in the prior year quarter. This improvement was primarily due to a more profitable contract mix in our CVD equipment segment, offset by the loss of the Mesoscrybe's contribution, and we also had a $100,000 charge for a one-time certification cost within the SDC segment. Operating income was $308,000 as compared to operating income of $77,000 in Q3 2024. After other income, primarily interest, net income was $384,000 or $0.06 per diluted share versus $203,000 or $0.03 per diluted share in the prior year quarter. As for our balance sheet, at September 30th, 2025, we held $8.4 million in cash and cash equivalents as compared to $12.6 million at December 31st, 2024. Net cash used in operating activities for the first nine months of 2025 was $4.1 million, largely due to changes in working capital as well as contract timing. Richard CatalanoEVP and CFO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:08:44Our working capital improved to $14.6 million as compared to $13.8 million at year-end 2024. As part of our transformation plan discussed earlier, we do expect to incur approximately $100,000 in severance and related charges in Q4 of 2025. In addition, we may recognize non-cash impairment charges in future periods if certain long-lived assets are sold below their book value. Looking ahead, our return to consistent profitability depends on new equipment orders, cost management, successful implementation of our transformation plan, and continued control over capital expenditures. Although order timing can cause quarterly fluctuations, we believe our current cash position and projected operating cash flows will be sufficient to meet working capital and capital expenditure needs for at least the next 12 months. With that, I'll turn the call back to Manny. Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:09:43Thank you, Rich. Our focus remains clear: serving our customers, supporting our employees, creating value for our shareholders, and achieving a return to sustained profitability. Our goal continues to be enabling tomorrow's technology today. Operator, we're now ready to open the line for questions. Operator00:10:09Thank you. We'll now be conducting a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Operator00:10:56Thank you. Our first question is from Paul Chayka with MSE Resources. Paul ChaykaAnalyst and Shareholder at MSE Resources00:11:03Good afternoon, everybody. I'm a longtime buy-and-hold fan of CVV. Also, I'm a materials engineer that's done a lot of work mainly in CVD coatings for high-temperature engines and semiconductor applications. So I've got a lot of hope for the company in those markets, especially. My question's about markets for composite applications for combustion turbines for power generations, meaning stationary turbine engines. For example, GE Vernova is showing a growing backlog for stationary combustion engines. I was wondering if you can speak to orders or applications of the CVV systems for stationary combustion engines. Also, second question about just a little bit of insight on general locations of the materials outsourcing you'll be doing. Is it quite regional? Is it across the country or abroad? Thank you. Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:12:11Paul, thank you for being a loyal shareholder. Two questions. First, the question on the ground-based gas turbine engines. As you're likely aware, and many of the listeners are as well, the primary use of ceramic matrix composites are in the hot section of the engine. There are several engines out there that already are utilizing silicon carbide-based composite materials for shrouds and for nozzles. Those, to my knowledge, have not yet been brought into the ground station gas turbine engines in that they don't burn; they're not a hot section turbine. Where we anticipate use in the future for silicon carbide-based composite materials, CMCs, in the energy field would be more so in replacement of some specific materials for nuclear reactors and for pellet encapsulation. Those are future emerging opportunities. Paul ChaykaAnalyst and Shareholder at MSE Resources00:13:39Oh, excellent. I never thought of those. Thank you. Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:13:43On your second question, which is more on the supplier base, CVD has historically had a mix of both external and also internal-make components. We've had a focus on our sheet metal shop and also on the smaller machine components, both turned and milled machined elements. The larger chambers have typically been outsourced, so we've always had a mix of suppliers. Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:14:21Over the last several years, we have combed through those suppliers, and we've evaluated our cost structure closely over the last 12 months to a little over a year, and we've determined that the vertical integration model, integrated model, has really become less efficient given both our order volumes and also from the sheer fact that when you're vertically integrated, it's very difficult to be best of breed in sheet metal cutting, bending, welding, painting, and those are things that our suppliers do, our merchant suppliers do, I would say, as well, and in some cases better than we do and are more cost-effective. So the outsourcing was inevitable, and this is the right time to implement that strategy. Now, answering your question, is it regional? It's in the U.S. Our focus is to outsource our machining to the U.S. Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:15:31We will extend to North America, specifically Canada in some cases. Paul ChaykaAnalyst and Shareholder at MSE Resources00:15:37Okay. That's really great detail. Thank you. Just a side on that, the vertical integration, I think, was hugely valuable to the company 15, 20 years ago. I think it allowed you to really refine the quality and the control that you had over your systems, but I totally understand the change in the dynamics of the economies and economies of scale. I assume that your quartz, will that remain interior? Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:16:09It'll be a mix, but we will retain our IP and black art in the area of quartz fabrication, and we'll also retain certain elements of capability in our machine shop, but the lion's share of the components will be outsourced. Paul ChaykaAnalyst and Shareholder at MSE Resources00:16:30I see. All right. Thank you. Well done, everybody. Thank you. Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:16:34You. Operator00:16:39Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to hand the floor back over to Emmanuel Lakios for any closing comments. Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:16:47Okay. Thank you, Operator, and thanks to everyone for joining us today. We appreciate your continued support and confidence in CVD Equipment Corporation. If you have any additional questions, please feel free to reach out to me directly. This concludes today's call. Thank you. Operator00:17:12We thank you again for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesEmmanuel LakiosPresident and CEORichard CatalanoEVP and CFOAnalystsPaul ChaykaAnalyst and Shareholder at MSE ResourcesPowered by Earnings DocumentsEarnings Release(8-K)Quarterly Report(10-Q) CVD Equipment Earnings HeadlinesCVD Equipment Cuts Workforce By Half, CEO Steps Down In RestructuringSeptember 10, 2026 | marketscreener.comMCVD Equipment Corporation Announces Restructuring Plan and Leadership TransitionSeptember 10, 2026 | businesswire.comCODE RED: AI Meltdown Imminent?After correctly predicting the 2008 and 2020 stock market meltdowns, I believe this AI company is about to trigger the next crash. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good afternoon and welcome to the CVD Equipment Corporation third quarter 2025 earnings conference call. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. We will begin with prepared remarks followed by a question and answer session. Presenting on today's call are Emmanuel Lakios, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Richard Catalano, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Our earnings press release and call replay information are available in the investor relations section of our website at www.cvdequipment.com. Before we begin, please note the comments made during this call may include forward-looking statements, including those related to our future financial performance, market growth, demand for our products, and overall business outlook. These statements are based on current expectations and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. Operator00:00:54For a detailed discussion of these risks, please refer to our filings with the SEC, including the risk factor section of our Form 10-K for the year ended December 31st, 2024. We assume no obligation to update any forward-looking statements except as required by law. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Emmanuel Lakios, President and CEO. Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:01:16Thank you, Paul, and good afternoon, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today to review our third quarter 2025 financial results and to provide an update on our business and strategic initiatives. After our prepared remarks, we look forward to taking your questions. For the third quarter 2025, revenue was $7.4 million, a 9.6% decrease from prior year quarter, and a 44.9% increase compared to the second quarter of this year. Revenue to date was $20.8 million and was 7.1% higher than the same period 2024. Orders for the third quarter totaled $2.2 million, primarily driven by continued demand in our SDC segment for gas delivery systems. For the nine months of 2025, total orders were $9.5 million compared to $21 million in the same period last year. Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:02:23At September 30th, 2025, backlog stood at $8 million compared to $13.2 million at June 30th, 2025, as we converted backlog to revenue in the quarter. Our third quarter and year-to-date bookings were influenced by several external factors, including uncertainties related to proposed tariffs, reduced U.S. government funding for university and U.S. government shutdown, and timing in the product adoption within our growth markets. In response to the ongoing fluctuations in our order rate and the recent decline in bookings within the CVD Equipment Division, our Board of Directors has approved a comprehensive transformation strategy aimed at significantly reducing fixed operating costs and creating a more agile organization. Key elements of this plan include transitioning CVD equipment business from vertically integrated fabrication to outsourced fabrication of certain components, enabling us to reduce our fixed costs and improve scalability. Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:03:44A workforce reduction in the CVD Equipment Division to be completed by year-end 2025 expected to reduce the annual operating costs by approximately $2 million beginning in 2026. To note, the SDC division will not be impacted by these actions. Revising our sales approach by leveraging distributors and external representatives to complement our internal sales force and broadening our market reach. Exploring strategic alternatives for certain businesses and product lines, which could include asset sales and divestments. Together, these initiatives will allow us to focus on our core strengths, which are engineering design, assembly, test, installation, and customer service, all while driving greater efficiency and long-term profitability. We remain encouraged by the opportunities ahead in our target markets, aerospace and defense, industrial applications, which include silicon carbide on graphite, silicon carbide high-power electronics, and electric vehicle battery materials. Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:05:04As an update on opportunities in the silicon carbide bull market, in October 2025, we announced a new order from Stony Brook University for two PBT150 physical vapor transport systems to support their center established by Onsemi Silicon Carbide Crystal Growth Center. We're proud to play a role in advancing semiconductor materials research and support critical technologies in artificial intelligence and electrification. We are continuing the development of our 200 mm silicon carbide crystal growth process using our PBT200 system targeted at the high-power electronics market. This same platform is being evaluated for other wide-band gas backgap materials such as aluminum nitride. Our reactive design and control architecture deliver the precision and repeatability needed for next-generation material production. CVD remains well-positioned across multiple growth markets. We believe that our transformation initiatives will strengthen our foundation and will better support our goal of achieving profitability and positive cash flow. Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:06:25With that, I'll now turn over the call to our CFO, Rich Catalano, to review our financial results in more detail. Richard CatalanoEVP and CFO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:06:35Thank you, Manny, and good afternoon, everyone. Third quarter 2025 revenue was $7.4 million compared to $8.2 million in Q3 of 2024. The quarter-over-quarter decrease was primarily due to the absence of revenue from our mesoscrybe segment, which ceased operation in 2024. Revenue from our CVD equipment segment was driven by three key customers, representing approximately 55% of total revenue for the quarter. A contract modification during the third quarter allowed us to recognize revenue in Q3, contributing approximately $1 million. This was a change only in the timing of the revenue recognition. Our SDC segment reported $1.7 million in revenue, down slightly from $1.9 million in Q3 2024 due to fewer contracts in progress, but they continue to have a strong backlog. The company gross profit for the quarter was $2.4 million, with a gross margin of 32.7%. Richard CatalanoEVP and CFO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:07:35This is compared to $1.8 million and 21.5% in the prior year quarter. This improvement was primarily due to a more profitable contract mix in our CVD equipment segment, offset by the loss of the Mesoscrybe's contribution, and we also had a $100,000 charge for a one-time certification cost within the SDC segment. Operating income was $308,000 as compared to operating income of $77,000 in Q3 2024. After other income, primarily interest, net income was $384,000 or $0.06 per diluted share versus $203,000 or $0.03 per diluted share in the prior year quarter. As for our balance sheet, at September 30th, 2025, we held $8.4 million in cash and cash equivalents as compared to $12.6 million at December 31st, 2024. Net cash used in operating activities for the first nine months of 2025 was $4.1 million, largely due to changes in working capital as well as contract timing. Richard CatalanoEVP and CFO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:08:44Our working capital improved to $14.6 million as compared to $13.8 million at year-end 2024. As part of our transformation plan discussed earlier, we do expect to incur approximately $100,000 in severance and related charges in Q4 of 2025. In addition, we may recognize non-cash impairment charges in future periods if certain long-lived assets are sold below their book value. Looking ahead, our return to consistent profitability depends on new equipment orders, cost management, successful implementation of our transformation plan, and continued control over capital expenditures. Although order timing can cause quarterly fluctuations, we believe our current cash position and projected operating cash flows will be sufficient to meet working capital and capital expenditure needs for at least the next 12 months. With that, I'll turn the call back to Manny. Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:09:43Thank you, Rich. Our focus remains clear: serving our customers, supporting our employees, creating value for our shareholders, and achieving a return to sustained profitability. Our goal continues to be enabling tomorrow's technology today. Operator, we're now ready to open the line for questions. Operator00:10:09Thank you. We'll now be conducting a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Operator00:10:56Thank you. Our first question is from Paul Chayka with MSE Resources. Paul ChaykaAnalyst and Shareholder at MSE Resources00:11:03Good afternoon, everybody. I'm a longtime buy-and-hold fan of CVV. Also, I'm a materials engineer that's done a lot of work mainly in CVD coatings for high-temperature engines and semiconductor applications. So I've got a lot of hope for the company in those markets, especially. My question's about markets for composite applications for combustion turbines for power generations, meaning stationary turbine engines. For example, GE Vernova is showing a growing backlog for stationary combustion engines. I was wondering if you can speak to orders or applications of the CVV systems for stationary combustion engines. Also, second question about just a little bit of insight on general locations of the materials outsourcing you'll be doing. Is it quite regional? Is it across the country or abroad? Thank you. Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:12:11Paul, thank you for being a loyal shareholder. Two questions. First, the question on the ground-based gas turbine engines. As you're likely aware, and many of the listeners are as well, the primary use of ceramic matrix composites are in the hot section of the engine. There are several engines out there that already are utilizing silicon carbide-based composite materials for shrouds and for nozzles. Those, to my knowledge, have not yet been brought into the ground station gas turbine engines in that they don't burn; they're not a hot section turbine. Where we anticipate use in the future for silicon carbide-based composite materials, CMCs, in the energy field would be more so in replacement of some specific materials for nuclear reactors and for pellet encapsulation. Those are future emerging opportunities. Paul ChaykaAnalyst and Shareholder at MSE Resources00:13:39Oh, excellent. I never thought of those. Thank you. Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:13:43On your second question, which is more on the supplier base, CVD has historically had a mix of both external and also internal-make components. We've had a focus on our sheet metal shop and also on the smaller machine components, both turned and milled machined elements. The larger chambers have typically been outsourced, so we've always had a mix of suppliers. Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:14:21Over the last several years, we have combed through those suppliers, and we've evaluated our cost structure closely over the last 12 months to a little over a year, and we've determined that the vertical integration model, integrated model, has really become less efficient given both our order volumes and also from the sheer fact that when you're vertically integrated, it's very difficult to be best of breed in sheet metal cutting, bending, welding, painting, and those are things that our suppliers do, our merchant suppliers do, I would say, as well, and in some cases better than we do and are more cost-effective. So the outsourcing was inevitable, and this is the right time to implement that strategy. Now, answering your question, is it regional? It's in the U.S. Our focus is to outsource our machining to the U.S. Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:15:31We will extend to North America, specifically Canada in some cases. Paul ChaykaAnalyst and Shareholder at MSE Resources00:15:37Okay. That's really great detail. Thank you. Just a side on that, the vertical integration, I think, was hugely valuable to the company 15, 20 years ago. I think it allowed you to really refine the quality and the control that you had over your systems, but I totally understand the change in the dynamics of the economies and economies of scale. I assume that your quartz, will that remain interior? Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:16:09It'll be a mix, but we will retain our IP and black art in the area of quartz fabrication, and we'll also retain certain elements of capability in our machine shop, but the lion's share of the components will be outsourced. Paul ChaykaAnalyst and Shareholder at MSE Resources00:16:30I see. All right. Thank you. Well done, everybody. Thank you. Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:16:34You. Operator00:16:39Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to hand the floor back over to Emmanuel Lakios for any closing comments. Emmanuel LakiosPresident and CEO at CVD Equipment Corporation00:16:47Okay. Thank you, Operator, and thanks to everyone for joining us today. We appreciate your continued support and confidence in CVD Equipment Corporation. If you have any additional questions, please feel free to reach out to me directly. This concludes today's call. Thank you. Operator00:17:12We thank you again for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesEmmanuel LakiosPresident and CEORichard CatalanoEVP and CFOAnalystsPaul ChaykaAnalyst and Shareholder at MSE ResourcesPowered by