NASDAQ:AMAT Applied Materials Q4 2025 Earnings Report $432.16 0.00 (0.00%) Closing price 05/22/2026 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$430.87 -1.29 (-0.30%) As of 05/22/2026 07:59 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Applied Materials EPS ResultsActual EPS$2.17Consensus EPS $2.11Beat/MissBeat by +$0.06One Year Ago EPS$2.32Applied Materials Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$6.80 billionExpected Revenue$6.68 billionBeat/MissBeat by +$121.65 millionYoY Revenue Growth-3.50%Applied Materials Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2025Date11/13/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, November 13, 2025Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsApplied Materials' Q3 2026 earnings is estimated for Thursday, August 13, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled at 8:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Annual ReportEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Applied Materials Q4 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 13, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: Applied expects fiscal 2026 to be another growth year driven by AI, with revenue weighted to the second half of the calendar year and leading-edge foundry logic, DRAM, and high-bandwidth memory forecast as the fastest-growing end markets. Negative Sentiment: Multiple trade restrictions materially reduced Applied's accessible China market (China fell to ~28% of systems & services in FY25 and ~25% in Q4), and the company expects lower wafer fab equipment spending in China in 2026. Positive Sentiment: Applied launched key products—XTERRA Epitaxi, the KNX integrated die-to-wafer bonder, and ProVision 10 EB metrology—and is opening the EPIC Center next year, positioning it at important technology inflections for AI chips and advanced packaging. Positive Sentiment: Fiscal 2025 delivered record results: revenue of $28.4B, non-GAAP gross margin up 120 bps to 48.8%, EPS +9%, ~$8B cash from ops and ~$5.7B free cash flow, and ~$6.3B returned to shareholders via dividends and buybacks. Negative Sentiment: The company announced workforce reductions and reporting changes (moving 200mm from AGS to Semiconductor Systems and fully allocating corporate support costs), which will reduce reported segment operating margins and may complicate near-term comparability. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallApplied Materials Q4 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Welcome to the Applied Materials fourth quarter of fiscal 2025 earnings call. During the presentation, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. Afterwards, you will be invited to participate in a question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call over to Mike Sullivan, Corporate Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Mike SullivanCorporate Vice President of Investor Relations at Applied Materials00:00:21Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining today's call. With me are Gary Dickerson, our President and CEO, and Brice Hill, our Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that today's call includes forward-looking statements which are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ. Information concerning these risks and uncertainties is discussed in our most recent Form 10-Q and other filings with the SEC. Today's call also includes non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations to GAAP measures can be found in today's earnings press release and in our quarterly earnings materials, which are available on our Investor Relations website at ir.appliedmaterials.com. With that introduction, I'd now like to turn the call over to Gary Dickerson. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:01:03Welcome back, Mike. Applied Materials delivered fiscal fourth quarter results above the midpoint of our guidance to complete another record year. 2025 was our sixth consecutive year of growth, and over this period, we have grown revenue and earnings at annualized rates of approximately 12% and 20%. These results are made possible by our passionate and dedicated employees around the world. Over the past 12 months, we have built new capabilities, strengthened our product portfolio, and streamlined our organization to prepare for the opportunities ahead. Applied is in a tremendous position to benefit as AI computing fuels secular growth in semiconductors and wafer fab equipment. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:01:54As this is our year-end call, I'll begin with a brief review of our performance in 2025, then I'll provide our latest market outlook, and finally, I'll describe how our inflection-focused innovation strategy enables us to extend our leadership in the most valuable and fastest-growing areas of the market as next-generation technologies ramp in volume production in 2026 and beyond. Looking back at fiscal 2025, while it was a growth year for Applied, our growth rate was tempered due to increased trade restrictions and an unfavorable market mix. Over the past 12 months, multiple trade rule changes have reduced the size of our accessible market in China. Overall, China declined to 28% of our total systems and service revenues in fiscal 2025 and to 25% for our fourth quarter. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:02:59In 2026, we expect wafer fab equipment spending in China to be lower, and we are not anticipating significant changes to market restrictions. In the areas of the market where we can operate, we are competing well and maintaining market share. Outside of China, the fastest-growing areas of the market in 2025 were segments where Applied had low or no share. In leading-edge foundry logic, investment was more oriented toward advanced lithography. We believe this is a positive leading indicator for process equipment demand in 2026. NAND, where historically Applied has lower market share, is on track to approximately double in 2025, even though it remains a relatively small portion of the wafer fab equipment market. In DRAM, where Applied has strong process technology leadership, overall spending is tracking to be approximately flat for calendar 2025. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:04:11Nevertheless, we strengthened our leadership position in DRAM, growing revenues from leading-edge customers by more than 50% over the past four fiscal quarters. As we look ahead to 2026, we expect the spending mix to play more to Applied's strengths, with leading-edge foundry logic, DRAM, and advanced packaging being the fastest-growing areas of the market. I recently returned from an extended trip to Asia. My discussions with customers and partners reinforce my view that opportunities for the semiconductor industry and Applied Materials have never been greater. Our customers are engaging with us to ensure we are ready to support significant production ramps in the coming years. AI has reached a tipping point that is accelerating investment in next-generation computing infrastructure and advanced silicon. Today, we are seeing a virtuous cycle of innovation and demand. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:05:14Advances in performance, energy consumption, and cost of AI computing open up new AI applications that, in turn, significantly increase demand for AI compute capacity. Recent third-party forecasts predict that the semiconductor industry will grow at a compound annual rate between 10%-15% over the next five years, driving a healthy increase in wafer fab equipment spending. We expect 2026 to be another growth year for Applied with our revenue being weighted toward the second half of the calendar year. AI computing is not only fueling growth but also reshaping the semiconductor roadmap and changing the way chips are designed and manufactured. Foundational semiconductor technology plays a critical role in increasing performance and bringing down the cost of AI in the data center and at the edge. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:06:18Today, major technology inflections are underway in five key areas: leading-edge logic, high-performance DRAM, high-bandwidth memory or DRAM stacking, advanced packaging for heterogeneous integration, and power electronics. At Applied, our core strategy is inflection-focused innovation. We partner with our customers to see technology inflections early. We focus our research and development on the most critical and valuable challenges on their roadmaps using deep co-innovation engagement models, and we create highly differentiated solutions by connecting our broad portfolio of capabilities and technologies. The three products we recently launched at SEMICON West are great examples of how this strategy works. Our new Xtera epitaxy system enables higher-performance gate-all-around transistors for two nanometers and beyond. Xtera creates void-free source drain structures that provide higher transistor speeds that are especially critical for AI computing. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:07:34The Xtera system integrates Epi cleaning, and etch, resulting in a 40% improvement in uniformity and 50% lower gas usage compared to traditional Epi. Kinex is the industry's first integrated die-to-wafer bonder. Hybrid bonding enables significant improvement in performance, power consumption, and costs for both complex multi-chip packages and die stacking. Kinex is a six-step integrated system with onboard metrology that provides higher accuracy bonding, smaller interconnect pitches, and higher yields for new logic and memory packaging architectures. PROVision 10 is designed to improve yield in 3D devices and further extends our leadership in eBeam metrology. eBeam metrology is critical for 3D devices as it can see through multiple layers of 3D chips and provide multi-layer images to identify defects in buried structures. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:08:44This system is the first to use cold field emission technology for metrology, which increases image resolution by 50% and imaging speed 10x compared to conventional thermal field emission technology. Overall, Applied is very well positioned at the most valuable technology inflections and in areas of the market that will grow fastest as AI is deployed on a large scale. The process tool-of-record positions that we have established over the past several years give us confidence that we will extend our strong leadership position in logic, DRAM, and packaging as advanced technology nodes ramp in volume production. Another key theme we consistently hear from our customers and our customers' customers is that co-optimization of the technology stack is more critical than ever. We are expanding our deep multi-year co-innovation engagements that focus on system technology co-optimization. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:09:55Our high-velocity co-innovation model provides chipmakers and chip designers much earlier access to next-generation process technology to accelerate their new chip and system architectures. This is a core value proposition of Applied Materials' equipment and process innovation and commercialization platform, or EPIC. Construction of the platform's flagship facility, the EPIC Center in Silicon Valley, is on track, and we are excited to begin operations next year. Our co-optimization strategies extend well beyond R&D. As our customers race to bring these complex new device architecture inflections to market, we are providing advanced service solutions that help them rapidly transfer new technology into their pilot lines and then rapidly optimize device performance, yield, and cost in volume production. In 2025, our core service business delivered another year of double-digit growth, with more than two-thirds of our service revenue generated from subscriptions. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:11:11In AGS and across Applied, we are rapidly adopting AI and digital tools. This enables us to drive higher velocity and productivity, innovate the way we work, and streamline our organization to meet the opportunities ahead. Before I hand over to Brice, I'll quickly summarize. Fiscal 2025 was our sixth consecutive year of growth, even as trade restrictions and an unfavorable market mix trimmed our growth rate for the year. As we look ahead, large-scale AI adoption will drive substantial investment in AI computing infrastructure, including advanced semiconductors and wafer fab equipment. Applied's inflection-focused innovation strategy positions us for another record year in 2026 as we gain share at the highest-value technology inflections in the fastest-growing areas of the market. As next-generation technologies ramp in volume production over the coming years, we will extend our leadership in logic, DRAM, and packaging. Brice, over to you. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:12:26Thank you, Gary, and thanks everyone for joining today's call. I am pleased that Applied delivered record annual revenue, gross margin dollars, operating profit, and earnings per share in fiscal 2025. Looking ahead into 2026, I believe we are in great position to benefit from favorable market trends. Based on growing demand for AI data center capacity, we forecast that leading-edge foundry logic, DRAM, and high-bandwidth memory will be the fastest-growing areas of the semiconductor equipment market. We have strong leadership positions in these segments today, and we have targeted our R&D investments to create new products and technologies that will enable even faster and more energy-efficient transistors, chips, and systems and drive growth for Applied. In addition, we have been working closely with our customers to better understand their longer-term demand expectations and align our supply chain and manufacturing slots to meet their needs for advanced capacity. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:13:25Based on our conversations with our customers and other industry players, we are preparing our operations and service organizations to be ready to support higher demand beginning in the second half of calendar 2026. Next, I'll briefly summarize our fiscal 2025 results versus fiscal 2024. Revenue grew 4% to $28.4 billion, with growth across all of our segments. Semiconductor systems revenue was up 4%, growing even as the impact of trade restrictions significantly reduced our access to the market in China. The impact of these restrictions was equivalent to around 10% of the China market in fiscal 2024 and more than double that amount in fiscal 2025. On a global basis, we generated record foundry systems revenue along with record DRAM sales outside China, and we posted record revenue in both Taiwan and Korea. Applied Global Services revenue grew 3% to a record $6.4 billion. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:14:27The recurring parts, services, and software portion of AGS grew by double digits in the year, while the 200-millimeter equipment business declined. We grew display revenue by 20%. I am pleased that we increased non-GAAP gross margin by 120 basis points to 48.8%, the highest level in 25 years. We shipped a richer mix of advanced systems and increased prices broadly, helping to more than offset cost increases. Non-GAAP operating expenses grew 5%, primarily driven by a 10% increase in R&D investments. At the end of the year, we announced actions to reduce headcount and enable us to scale Applied more productively as we capture the growth opportunities we see in 2026 and beyond. We continue to shift spending to strategic areas, adding people in fields like advanced analytics that are critical to the speed and efficiency of our R&D programs and operations. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:15:28Non-GAAP earnings per share increased 9%. We generated nearly $8 billion in cash from operations. Free Cash Flow of $5.7 billion included elevated capital spending of $2.3 billion, over half of which was used in building the new EPIC Center in Silicon Valley, which will open next year and become the most advanced collaborative semiconductor equipment and process innovation facility in the world. We distributed approximately $6.3 billion to shareholders. We paid $1.4 billion in cash dividends, and the quarterly dividend per share was increased by 15% during the year to $0.46. Operating income from Applied Global Services more than covered the dividend payment. We allocated $4.9 billion to our share repurchase program and reduced shares outstanding by more than 3%. Turning to fiscal Q4, we delivered revenue and non-GAAP EPS above the midpoint of guidance. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:16:27China revenue declined to 29% of total company revenue, which is in line with our longer-term average and well below a peak of 45% in the first quarter of fiscal 2024. Non-GAAP gross margin was at the midpoint of guidance and up 60 basis points year-over-year, while non-GAAP operating expenses were slightly higher than our expectation and up 3% year-over-year. Turning to the segments, semiconductor systems and AGS revenue exceeded our expectations for the quarter, while non-GAAP operating margin for both segments declined along with revenue on a year-on-year basis. Lastly, display revenue exceeded our expectation for the quarter and was up 68% year-over-year. Next, I'll share several reporting changes we are making that will help us drive further efficiency gains and also give investors more visibility into our semiconductor and services businesses. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:17:23First, as of Q4 fiscal 2025, our display business is being reported in corporate and other. There is no change to our display strategy. Next, as of Q1 fiscal 2026, we are moving our 200-millimeter equipment business from Applied Global Services to semiconductor systems. This change will increase our operational efficiency and enable investors to see all of our semiconductor systems revenue in one place. Also, as a result, Applied Global Services will consist entirely of recurring revenue. This will make it easier for investors to track our subscription-like growth in services. Finally, as of Q1 of fiscal 2026, we are fully allocating corporate support costs to our businesses. This change will have the effect of reducing semiconductor systems and AGS operating margins, but also give our teams better visibility and opportunity to optimize these costs. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:18:21Now, I'll share our guidance for Q1, which includes the reporting changes I just outlined. We expect company revenue of $6.85 billion+ or -$500 million, and non-GAAP EPS of $2.18+ or -$0.20. Within this outlook, we expect semiconductor systems revenue of around $5.025 billion. AGS should generate revenue of around $1.52 billion. Corporate and other revenue should be around $305 million, composed primarily of display revenue. We currently expect non-GAAP gross margin to be approximately 48.4% in Q1 and remain at that level until volumes ramp to support higher demand beginning in the second half of the calendar year. Non-GAAP operating expenses should be around $1.33 billion, which is up only slightly from fiscal Q4 because the actions we recently took are mostly offsetting the increase we normally see in Q1 due to the timing of annual merit increases and equity compensation expenses. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:19:26Finally, we are modeling a tax rate of around 13%. In summary, our customers are indicating to us that wafer fab equipment spending is likely to accelerate beginning in the second half of calendar 2026. In addition, we see a positive fab equipment spending mix developing for Applied. AI data center investments translate to strong demand for our most enabling products in leading-edge foundry logic, DRAM, and high-bandwidth memory, along with advanced services that help our customers accelerate ramps and yields. Thank you for listening, and now, Mike, let's begin the Q&A. Mike SullivanCorporate Vice President of Investor Relations at Applied Materials00:20:02Thanks, Brice. To help us reach as many people as we can on today's call, please ask just one question and no more than one brief follow-up question. Operator, let's please begin. Operator00:20:13Certainly, and our first question comes from the line of CJ Muse Cantor Fitzgerald. Your question, please. Yeah, good afternoon. CJ MuseSenior Managing Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:20:21Thank you for taking the question. I guess, Gary, the world has clearly changed since NVIDIA reported August 26th and discussed $3 trillion-$4 trillion in AI infrastructure spending. Curious, given your trip to visit with clients over the very near term, how your conversations have evolved in the last few months? How has your visibility changed, and how are you preparing your supply chain for this likely tremendous growth? Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:20:46Hi, CJ. Thanks for the question. Yeah, I have been spending a lot of time with customers and just came back from a long trip to Asia. I would say I was meeting with the R&D leaders and CEOs of our largest customers. Just like you said, AI is the biggest focus for all of our customers. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:21:06It's driving the WFE mix to segments driven by AI, including leading-edge foundry logic and DRAM, where Applied has strong number one positions. Applied is in deep, high-velocity co-innovation relationships with all of these different customers. We have very high share. If you look at the transistor for Gate-All-Around or Backside Power and leading-edge foundry logic, we have very strong visibility and co-innovation relationships with customers over four technology nodes, a decade out in the future. Very high visibility in terms of our positions in leading-edge foundry logic and in DRAM, and high confidence we're going to outperform as those advanced chips ramp going forward in the future. The other thing that I heard and we've been seeing over the last couple of months is a major improvement in customer demand visibility. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:22:13Customers, just like you said, they're planning large ramps of advanced factories, and they want to make sure our supply chain operations and service teams are ready to deliver. We're getting more than one year visibility, in some cases two years visibility with a number of these different customers because, as we talked about in the prepared remarks in the second half of 2026, we will see significant ramps for these advanced factories. Again, customers want to make sure that especially our supply chains are ready to deliver. Of course, the improved visibility is critical to our ability to ensure on-time delivery to customer needs. I'd say that's, CJ, the biggest thing that's changed in the last couple of months. CJ MuseSenior Managing Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:23:00Very helpful. Maybe, Brice, you announced the headcount reduction over the last quarter. CJ MuseSenior Managing Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:23:08I'm curious how we should think about that and the implications to gross margins and OpEx into first half calendar of 2026, perhaps versus second half given the ramp that you've talked about. Thank you. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:23:20Yeah, thanks, CJ. Good to hear from you. On the reduction, if you look at our Q1 spend in our guide, you'll see that we do not have the uplift that we typically have in Q1 for our annual pay raises and the share-based compensation increases that typically happen. You'll be able to quantify the rough change in that quarter from that perspective. Just to highlight, that was a years-long program that we worked on to increase velocity and productivity across the company. For the balance of 2026, we'll add back some skills that we need to fill in for the company. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:24:04It was really a wholesale evaluation of all the staffing model we have across the entire company. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:24:10Yeah, CJ, maybe I'll add another aspect to this. In strategic planning, we had a big focus on innovating the way we work, including AI and digital technologies, and driving, like Brice said, higher velocity and productivity. That is really at the foundation of how companies compete. Huge focus, especially on velocity across all of Applied Materials, and then streamlining our organization to optimize future performance. As we went through these changes, we also wanted to make sure, as I talked about, we see significant demand coming from our customers. We wanted to make sure as we are doing this overall company and workforce optimization to improve the performance of Applied, we are also ready to meet those major customer ramps in the second half of 2026 and then going forward. Operator00:25:05Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Krish Sankar from TD Cowen. Your question, please. Krish SankarManaging Director at TD Cowen00:25:11Yeah, thanks for taking my question. Gary, my first question is, as you mentioned, you're clearly gaining share in new technologies like Gate All-Around and Backside Power Delivery. When I look at your leadership products, it seems like PVD is moving to ALD on the CVD, CMP, and etch side. Besides the usual U.S. and Japanese competitors, there's increasing domestic China competition. I'm kind of curious how to think about the momentum in those leadership products for the next two to three years as you see increasing competition both globally and from China. I have a follow-up for Brice. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:25:43Okay, Krish, there's a lot in that first question, but thank you for the question. We have very strong positions, Gate All-Around, Backside Power. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:25:54Besides being number one in process equipment for leading logic and foundry, we're also number one in DRAM and advanced packaging, especially for high-bandwidth memory. Those are the most important segments for AI energy-efficient computing. Leading-edge foundry logic and DRAM will be the fastest-growing segments in 2026 and for the next several years. Krish, we're performing well across all our products. Again, I am extremely confident that we will grow share, especially in these segments that are enabling AI energy-efficient computing. We have deep relationships with all of these different customers across multiple technology nodes. We see strong demand for our products, increasing demand for integrated systems, for transistors, wiring, and now Kinex for packaging. All of that, I'm very optimistic about. I'll come back to your PVD comment in just a minute here. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:26:54The biggest change we've seen in our competitive position in the near term is trade restrictions. We used to serve the entire global WFE market before restrictions were implemented. By 2024, we were restricted from serving around 10% of China's WFE market, mainly in leading-edge logic and the domestic NAND market. In the last month of 2024 and the first month of 2025, the restrictions significantly increased for us, and we could no longer serve China's DRAM market and some of the ICAPS market. Our impact grew to well over 20% of the China WFE market, which I think everybody knows that the WFE market in China has been elevated this year and also over the past few years with China approaching 40% of total WFE. This change in restrictions was a very big impact, especially in 2025. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:27:59Non-U.S. equipment companies do not have the same restrictions. Restricted customers can buy from those companies even if they would rather buy from Applied. We have put a lot of time and studied this topic very carefully. What we can see is that where we can compete, we are doing very well. If I look at China going forward, our business has returned to normalized levels. We talked about kind of mid-20s on our semi business, our systems, and AGS. Looking ahead, we do not anticipate significant new restrictions. In fact, we believe that our share in China ICAPS, where we can compete, was flat from 2024-2025. That is across, Krish, all of our different leadership products. We think we can continue to hold and have an opportunity to even gain share going forward. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:29:02I say this because we have several major ICAPS new products coming for China and non-China that add to the strong products we have today, enabling us to enter new ICAPS markets and also better compete in cost-sensitive areas of the market. We will increase our ICAPS addressable market opportunity in China and worldwide. Again, where we can compete, I'm actually very optimistic with our position. Back to PVD, your question on PVD. I'll tell you, Krish, PVD is doing great where we can compete. We grew PVD in 2025. We have a positive outlook in 2026 and into the future. I talked earlier about AI. PVD is enabling low-resistance wiring, and that's critical for faster and more energy-efficient chips. With advanced chips, you have hundreds of miles of wiring in a single chip. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:30:10If you could imagine, that long wire keeps getting thinner and thinner, and moving data through that wire at high speed with low power is incredibly hard, almost like magic. Applied is the clear leader in wiring innovation. Krish, we see strong demand for PVD, strong growth into 2026 and into the future. We are also innovating. I talked about that pipeline of innovative products. We have new PVD innovations specifically for ICAPS beyond all of the other things that we are doing that will help us in performance in that particular segment. The last thing, in the leading edge, we do have an increase in demand for the integrated products, including selective ALD and selective Moly, which we just had some big wins in the most critical applications. Long answer, Krish. Krish SankarManaging Director at TD Cowen00:31:09Thank you very much, Gary. No, it is extremely helpful and very informative. Krish SankarManaging Director at TD Cowen00:31:13Thanks for that. Just a quick follow-up for Brice. Brice, how do you think about the impact of this 200-millimeter movement from AGS to Semi? Is there a way to quantify it for Q1, or how much was it in fiscal year 2025? Thank you. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:31:24Yeah, it's approximately $125 million, Krish, for Q1 and approximately the same number in Q4. We're moving that from our services business to our equipment business. We think that'll be easier for us to manage and easier for investors to understand those two different reportable segments. Krish SankarManaging Director at TD Cowen00:31:46Thanks a lot, Brice. Thanks, Gary. Operator00:31:48Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Vivek Arya from Bank of America Securities. Your question, please. Vivek AryaManaging Director at Bank of America Securities00:31:55Thank you for taking the question. You mentioned you expect fiscal 2026 mix to work in your favor. You also mentioned the significant growth in the back half. Vivek AryaManaging Director at Bank of America Securities00:32:06I'm curious, do you think there is a potential for WFE to grow high single-digit, close to double-digit next year and for Applied to outperform that? Because you do seem to have better visibility, and you also expect the mix to work in your favor. I'm just hoping that if you could give us some sense of what the market could be doing and how is Applied positioned with respect to that market. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:32:31Hi, Vivek. It's Brice. Thanks for your question. We do expect strong growth in 2026 led by leading edge and DRAM. The headwind that we have, we do still expect some digestion in China and in ICAPS. It is kind of a similar situation relative to 2025. We think leading edge will be very strong. DRAM will be very strong. These are pulled by the headline of the AI solutions in those spaces. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:33:04And then a little bit of digestion on the ICAPS side, but we do think it will be a growth year. Vivek AryaManaging Director at Bank of America Securities00:33:10Okay. On the clarification side, Brice, how much of the $600 million BIS headwind is in Q1 and the rest of the year? And if I could squeeze in the real question for Gary, one of your peers suggested an $8 billion or so, I think WFE for every $100 billion or so in data center build-out. Do you agree with that number? Do you have a different number? And how do you see the mix within that $8 billion playing to Applied's strength? Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:33:45Thank you. Okay, Vivek. Starting with the affiliate rule that came out and affected our Q4 and then was suspended. We had shared that $110 million would be affected in our Q4. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:33:59We did not ship that in Q4, but we will ship that in Q1. The first answer is that is included in our guide for Q1. The $600 million is still a good estimate for what is in the rest of 2026. We did not share any linearity for that. In fact, it is still being closed in terms of delivery dates, etc. I would think of that as through the rest of the year. On the WFE per gigawatt, we spent some time thinking about this. We think the best way to think about this is about 15% of leading-edge wafer starts and DRAM wafer starts are allocated towards AI data center solutions. If you think about capacity planning, that is growing at a mid 30% CAGR across the industry. Today, 15% of those two end markets are growing at mid 30%. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:34:56For companies that are planning capacity for two and three years out, they make that projection, and that much WFE should be allocated towards data center. We can talk more about that in a follow-up, but I think that is a good way to think about how much is being allocated. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:35:11Hi, Vivek. You asked about what does that mean, the AI demand mean for mix and for Applied. I talked about this earlier, that the two fastest-growing segments for 2026 and going forward are leading-edge foundry logic and DRAM, including high-bandwidth memory. In both of those cases, again, we are clear number one. We are gaining share, high visibility in Gate All-Around. That will become clear as those advanced factories ramp in the latter half of 2026. We have very strong visibility, very strong position. The same thing is true with DRAM. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:35:52I think longer term, if you look at Gate-All-Around, Backside Power, we're positioned to capture more than 50% of our served market. I have high confidence that we are gaining share in Gate-All-Around. I mean, that's all of the discussions I had with these R&D leaders when I was in Asia in the last month. In DRAM, high-bandwidth memory, we're in really great position there. We've gained a significant amount of share over the last several years. As FinFET ramps, we have strong leadership in FinFET. That's going to be adopted in DRAM, 4F-squared. We also are in a great position. In HBM, future generations will adopt hybrid bonding where we also have clear leadership. We announced Kinex at SEMICON West. The mix is definitely working in our favor, and we're well positioned going forward. Vivek AryaManaging Director at Bank of America Securities00:36:47Thank you. Operator00:36:49Thank you. Operator00:36:51Our next question comes from the line of Stacy Rasgon from Bernstein Research. Your question, please. Stacy RasgonManaging Director and Senior Analyst of U.S. Semiconductors and Semiconductor Capital Equipment at Bernstein Research00:36:57Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. For the first one, Brice, this second-half lift in demand. What does that imply for the trajectory in the first half? Are you thinking revenue stays kind of in this ballpark until we hit the second half, or does it grow a little bit and then it grows a lot? Maybe even if you wanted to quantify second-half versus first-half split or something like that. How do we think about the first half relative to the second half given the lift in the second half? Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:37:24Yeah, for the semi business, Stacy, and thanks for the question. For the semi business, we think it'll be flattish until we see that growth. We will see a little growth in the AGS business. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:37:36We expect that, as we've shared, to be growing at low double digits, and that's fairly continuous growth through the course of the year. For the semi business in the short term, it'll be flattish. Stacy RasgonManaging Director and Senior Analyst of U.S. Semiconductors and Semiconductor Capital Equipment at Bernstein Research00:37:46Until like Q3, I guess you're thinking, or? Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:37:51Yeah, for us, it'll really be our Q4 and our Q1 of next year. That's when the calendar, that's when it matches the calendar. We'll see a, we expect a significant uplift there from leading edge, especially. Until then, it'll be slower growth. Stacy RasgonManaging Director and Senior Analyst of U.S. Semiconductors and Semiconductor Capital Equipment at Bernstein Research00:38:10Okay. I guess for my follow-up, you sort of mentioned gross margins kind of staying in this range until we see that lift. Do you expect a material lift in gross margins when that material lift in revenue comes through? Stacy RasgonManaging Director and Senior Analyst of U.S. Semiconductors and Semiconductor Capital Equipment at Bernstein Research00:38:24How do we expect the gross margin trajectory on the back of those revenues as that comes through second half of next year? Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:38:32Yeah, the 48.4% guide for Q1 is good for this level of business. I'll just highlight in Q1, we're also expecting a normal share from a China shipment perspective. It should be for the whole company, it should be in the order of 29% and less than that for AGS and our Semi business. That level, without a significant uplift in the business, that's good for this size business. When we do get to the second half, added volume will help with cost improvements. Over time, we continue to work on our pricing and cost programs. You can see with the 120 basis point uplift that we had in 2025, most of that was driven by price improvement. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:39:22We will continue with that program, but it takes time to affect the margins. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:39:29Stacy, this is Gary. One thing I would say in terms of margins, I do think that we will be able to drive sustainable improvements in margins over time. I mean, one thing in the industry, you see a tremendous amount of profits being generated with the AI demand throughout the entire ecosystem. Our customer profitability has improved significantly. As I mentioned earlier, also, we are enabling these incredible innovations. I mentioned the hundreds of miles of wiring in an advanced chip. I mean, again, for AI, this is incredibly valuable. As we continue to work with our customers, enabling those innovations that are critical for AI, bringing new products to market, I believe that we can sustainably drive our margins higher going forward. Stacy RasgonManaging Director and Senior Analyst of U.S. Semiconductors and Semiconductor Capital Equipment at Bernstein Research00:40:23Got it. Thank you, guys. Operator00:40:26Thank you. Operator00:40:28Our next question comes from the line of Timothy Arcuri from UBS. Your question, please. Timothy ArcuriManaging Director at UBS00:40:33Thanks a lot. Brice, I'm trying to understand China a little better. All these affiliates were banned, and then they got reinstated. The way that China usually operates is that when they were rushing to get in front of the ban, and now I would think that they're going to come back and they're going to just try to get as much equipment as they can, as fast as they can. Is the add-back not going to be more than 600 tools? In fiscal Q1, are you taking slots away from the other customers to give to them? I guess I'm trying to figure out how we do not add more than 600 tools back the way that these Chinese customers typically operate. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:41:10Thanks for the question, Tim. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:41:13Yeah, for the first quarter, 110 tools is in the quarter. Those tools are built and will ship. For the balance, we were not building those tools. We did not know we would be able to ship them. It is going to take time to do the supply chain and actually make the builds. We will have to finalize the date with the customers. They may have interest in working that process as quickly as possible, but I would just say the good way to think about this is cycle time, and we will spread it through the year. Timothy ArcuriManaging Director at UBS00:41:43Okay. I guess, Gary, I wanted to go back to PVD. This is like a third of your systems revenue per Gartner. It is a super important piece of your business. It does seem a little bit like ALD is eating into this franchise a little bit. Timothy ArcuriManaging Director at UBS00:42:04I know it's super important. It's been growing. How do you sort of protect that franchise from you have one franchise you're very strong in, and one where your share is not as high? Do you think that we're all kind of maybe too concerned about the degree to which ALD is eating into PVD? Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:42:20Thanks. Hey, Tim, thanks for the question. I absolutely think you're too concerned. Again, as I mentioned, I just spent a lot of time in Asia with our R&D leaders for our top customers. We have deep visibility into their technology roadmaps for four generations. I can tell you, again, we have high confidence. PVD is going to continue to ramp. I mentioned the hundreds of miles of wiring in an advanced chip. We have innovations that are really amazing innovations. We are the leader in wiring. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:42:59If you think about an AI server, again, how you move the data at a very high speed with low power is enormously important. That is within a chip, chip to chip. There is so much innovation that is happening there. I do not know where this comes from on the ALD eating PVD share, that type of thing. All I can say is that we have extremely high visibility. We have unique technologies, including PVD, and we have unique ability to combine technologies into integrated platforms. One of those integrated platforms, we combine selective ALD together with PVD and five other technologies. That is part of what is enabling those hundreds of miles of wiring. Applied is really unique in being able to deliver those kinds of innovations. That is enabling 50% improvement in resistivity. It is a billion-dollar business for us every year. That is going to continue. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:44:02Again, deep visibility into the N+1, N+2, N+3, N+4 technology nodes. Another innovation that we just won with leading foundry logic companies is integrating selective Moly with PVD into an integrated platform for the most critical applications for our customers. Again, Tim, very high visibility. I agree with you. It's a great business. It's going to keep growing in 2026 and keep growing as we go forward. Timothy ArcuriManaging Director at UBS00:44:40Okay, Gary. Thank you. Operator00:44:42Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Aatif Malik from Citi. Your question, please. Aatif MalikSVP at Citi00:44:49Hi. Thank you for taking my questions. Welcome back, Mike. Brice, I'm just trying to understand the China commentary. You're expecting China to kind of stay at this mid 20%s level for the silicon products into next year. Aatif MalikSVP at Citi00:45:05If the assumption is that the domestic China spending is coming down next year, why would this number not be lower than mid 25% if the rest of China is growing? I'm just trying to understand the moving pieces. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:45:18Yes. Thanks, Aatif. For Q1, that just happens to be what's in the mix. We do expect it. If we do have the digestion that we're expecting in China, then we will see it lower during the course of the year. That will be more than offset to get a growth here. That will be more than offset by the strength in leading edge and DRAM that we highlighted earlier. I'll just admit, I think we've been wrong for two years in a row forecasting a digestion related to China, and it's been stronger each year. We could be surprised on the upside as we go through. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:45:57Right now, Gary mentioned this a few minutes ago. China has been almost 40% of WFE. It's been elevated. They've been investing heavily to get to self-sustainability from a production perspective. We don't have as good a visibility because of a large number of customers there and continuing creation of new customers. It's not as easy to forecast as the rest of the mature market. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:46:26Yeah. I'll just add one thing I would say also. Longer term, what we think is that ICAPS remains about one-third of WFE, and then you have memory and leading-edge foundry logic. China is really mostly an ICAPS market, and there has been this elevated spending over multiple years. We think that if you just look at end market demand, we think that moves back into that zip code over a longer period of time. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:47:01When that happens, hard to anticipate exactly when that's going to happen, but that's what we think about over a longer period. Aatif MalikSVP at Citi00:47:08Great. Gary, one for you. You visited several customers. Are your memory customers constrained by shell capacity? I mean, why are we talking about a second-half inflection or the first half? I mean, I understand the first half is being dragged lower by China, but is there a situation where the memory guys are constrained by shell capacity? That explains why second half is going higher? Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:47:34I can take the question, Aatif. First, we would say that factory schedules, of course, matter. Each customer has their own schedule for installation and ramp and qualification and the like. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:47:52Our information on the macro level, we had several people ask this question, but our information on the macro level suggests that there is factory capacity from a space perspective to ramp across the industry. You will just have to ask each customer. That is a macro answer. You will have to ask each customer for their situation. We do not think the capacity is limiting the ramp at this point. Aatif MalikSVP at Citi00:48:21Thank you. Operator00:48:21Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Charles Shi from Needham & Company. Your question, please. Charles ShiManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Needham & Company00:48:27Hi. Thanks for taking my question. I have a follow-up on China. You did mention outside of restrictions, you are not losing share, but your U.S. peer, the closest one, reported much stronger China revenue growth this year. I think they are probably growing at a 20% year-on-year. You are probably declining more than 10% year-on-year. Charles ShiManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Needham & Company00:48:54Just really trying to reconcile, how are you not losing share? Is there some nuances that we may be missing and that would suggest you actually did not lose share in China despite the numbers would suggest otherwise? Thank you. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:49:09Hi, Charles. I'll start on this one. I think the nuance, we clarified that, or we made an adjustment in there and said, if we look at the accounts that we can support, we're holding our share and competing well in China. If you just take the macro number, we've certainly lost share in China. I think Gary commented that if you go back to 2024, just over 10% of the market was restricted for U.S. companies. If you go to 2025, it's more than doubled. The restriction has more than doubled. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:49:51We have certainly lost share in China because a larger portion of the market is inaccessible to us. When we look at the accounts that we can sell to, we feel we are competing very well. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:50:04Yeah, Charles, this is Gary. I think we have done a lot of work on this. There are lots of different sources of data that can cross-validate the numbers. Again, when we look at it, we cannot comment on other people, their ability to serve global customers that are in China versus domestic customers. Everybody is going to have a little difference in terms of what they are serving in China. Certainly for us, NAND, the global NAND in China, is not a significant business. DRAM, however, which really was restricted at the beginning of our fiscal year, we have very high share in DRAM. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:50:57If you look at the top leading DRAM companies in this last year, I think our business was up something like 50%. For Applied, DRAM going away had a really big impact on us. Again, Charles, I think we have pretty good confidence in maintaining share where we can compete, but there is going to be a different mix for every company. I do not know, Brice, if you want to add anything else. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:51:25No, I think that covers it. Mike SullivanCorporate Vice President of Investor Relations at Applied Materials00:51:27Yeah. The other thing that I would add to that, Charles, is the other part of that is not only the DRAM, but it is the NAND. If you think about it, what was shipping? You have multinational NAND companies that are in China, and they were presumably pretty strong. As you may know, in our mix, that is the lowest area for us. Mike SullivanCorporate Vice President of Investor Relations at Applied Materials00:51:48Gary talked about the DRAM impact. The other impact is NAND being strong. That equation in the future on a global basis, we think, is changing. Operator00:51:57Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Joe Quatrochi from Wells Fargo. Your question, please. Joe QuatrochiDirector and Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo00:52:08Yeah. Thanks for taking the question. I was wondering if you could help us understand just what was the size of the advanced packaging business in fiscal 2025, and how did that grow? Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:52:18Hi, Joe. It's Brice. It's a little bit lower than it was in 2024. 2024 was buoyed by the high shipments in the end of the year for HBM. It's essentially been running at the same level for 2025, minus that extra shipments at the end of that year. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:52:44As we look forward, Gary is going to comment about the changing technologies for advanced packaging over time. We think we are well-positioned for that. We still think that business will be growing significantly along with AI data center and all the different packaging capabilities that will be required over time. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:53:04Yeah, Joe. Applied is number one in high-bandwidth memory. That business was not as strong in 2025 as it was the previous year. That was one thing that impacted our relative growth rate. It is pretty close to flat year-over-year, 2025 versus 2024, with the HBM coming down versus where it was. What I would say is that we are still on track to what we have discussed before. We have grown the business from around $500 million to about $1.5 billion today. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:53:39We are on track still to double this business to $3 billion or more over the next few years. We are in a very good position. As I said earlier, we are number one in HBM. As HBM ramps over time, that puts us in a good position. We have a great portfolio of products. Especially, I mentioned the trip in Asia and meeting with a lot of these R&D leaders. There is an enormous focus for our customers to go to larger packaging sizes so they can connect more GPUs, CPUs, and all these different computing components to improve performance and power an enormous amount. Applied is extremely well-positioned in HBM, and we are also well-positioned as these new technologies ramp for the future. I think high confidence in being able to double this business again over the next few years. Joe QuatrochiDirector and Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo00:54:35That is helpful detail. Joe QuatrochiDirector and Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo00:54:39Maybe as a follow-up on the China entity with the $600 million that maybe comes back here, any help on what the split of that was for AGS in terms of services? I assume that would basically just kind of turn right back on, given you're able to service those customers. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:54:57Yeah. You're right. There was some AGS in that. We didn't offer that, and I don't have it at my fingertips. So there was a component of AGS, but I think the majority was equipment. Joe QuatrochiDirector and Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo00:55:08Thank you. Operator00:55:10Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Shane Brett from Morgan Stanley. Your question, please. Shane BrettEquity Research Analyst at Morgan Stanley00:55:18Thank you for letting me ask a question. My first question is, you mentioned that your revenue from leading-edge DRAM customers is up 50% in fiscal 2025, which is stronger than those customers' DRAM WFE spending, to my knowledge. Shane BrettEquity Research Analyst at Morgan Stanley00:55:31Where specifically are these share gains of these leading-edge customers coming from? Now that you're past extremely tough China DRAM comps, just how do you expect your DRAM business to track in 2026? Thank you. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:55:40Yeah. I'll start, Shane. When you do the year-over-year comparison, it looks flat for us from a DRAM perspective. What was happening in 2024, we shipped a significant amount of business to China customers. We basically had the same business in 2025 without the China customers. All of that business went to the internationals, and that equated to approximately a 50% growth for them. We do expect DRAM to strengthen as we go into 2026 and should be healthy growth across the customers for DRAM investments. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:56:22Yeah. Shane, just in terms of where are we gaining? Certainly, I mentioned earlier high-bandwidth memory. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:56:29That's one part, one segment where Applied is clear number one, and that is helping us. The DRAM companies are driving innovation in IO and Applied. That really leverages a lot of our leadership products and foundry logic. In fact, they're moving to FinFET going forward. That puts Applied in a good position even to gain more share as we go forward. We have a strong position in capacitor scaling. We have a really strong etch share in DRAM, and we've achieved patterning share gains. Those are a few areas. Again, I would say going forward, as these DRAM companies adopt hybrid bonding for HBM, as they adopt FinFET, as they adopt 4F-squared, the vertical channel transistor architecture, in all of those areas, we're positioned to gain share as those new technologies ramp. Shane BrettEquity Research Analyst at Morgan Stanley00:57:28Got it. Thank you. Shane BrettEquity Research Analyst at Morgan Stanley00:57:31The second question may be a little bit critical, but your fiscal 2025 foundry logic revenue is up about 3% year-over-year. Your U.S. peers who should be on a level playing field with you are recording extremely strong double-digit growth through the first three quarters of the year. Just what's your self-assessment on this performance gap with those U.S. peers? How should we have confidence that Applied can outperform foundry logic WFE in 2026? Thank you. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:57:54Foundry logic includes both leading-edge and ICAPS customers. Those two things are mixed together. If you look, we had record revenue in Taiwan, record revenue in Korea. Our performance is extremely strong. In the leading-edge, our revenue is up a significant amount. You have all those things kind of mixed together, I think, in that data because everybody's combining that. Mike SullivanCorporate Vice President of Investor Relations at Applied Materials00:58:24Thanks, Shane. Mike SullivanCorporate Vice President of Investor Relations at Applied Materials00:58:27Operator, we have time for one more question, please. Operator00:58:30Certainly. Our final question for today then comes from the line of Jim Schneider from Goldman Sachs. Your question, please. Jim SchneiderSenior Equity Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:58:36Good evening. Thanks for taking my question. Relative to the strength you're expecting in 2026 across leading-edge logic and DRAM, can you maybe guess which one might grow stronger than the other and which one might start to recover first? Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:58:53Sure, Jim. We think leading-edge will be the strongest grower with DRAM second. That is our forecast. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:59:03Yeah. The one thing I would say, Jim, I think both of them are going to grow at a pretty strong rate. Really, in terms of when we see the revenue, it depends on fab timing. That is why we talked about kind of second half of calendar 2026. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:59:21Those were the discussions I had with a lot of the Asian customers when I was traveling and the dramatic improvement in visibility. You have to take that into consideration when you think about the timing of when those ramps will happen. Jim SchneiderSenior Equity Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:59:36Thank you. Maybe as a quick follow-up, growth margins are expecting to increase in the back half once you get better absorption on the costs. I understand that. Are there any other underlying initiatives you are doing to improve growth margins operationally that could cause kind of a further tailwind once we get there? Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:59:57Sure. Thanks for the question. On the growth margin side, if you look at 2025, up 120 basis points from 2024, the majority of that really has been improvements in our pricing processes. Good change that we made. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials01:00:15We highlighted in previous calls that we revamped our entire pricing program across the company. We are also working on cost reductions. The cost reductions were offset to some degree by tariff headwinds and by some of the inventory management, etc. The real driver during the year was the price process improvements. Those will continue as we go into 2026. At the calendar second half, as we get more volume and you get some time for those to work, we should be able to improve the gross margins. Mike SullivanCorporate Vice President of Investor Relations at Applied Materials01:00:50Thanks, Jim. Thanks, Jim. Brice, would you like to sum up today's call? Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials01:00:57Thanks, Mike. I'm excited that the investments we're making in leading-edge foundry logic, DRAM, and high-bandwidth memory give us technology leadership at the same time our customers are signaling an inflection in the AI-related fab equipment spending in the second half of calendar 2026. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials01:01:14I wish everyone a nice Thanksgiving, and I look forward to seeing many of you soon at the UBS conference in Scottsdale. Mike, please close the call. Mike SullivanCorporate Vice President of Investor Relations at Applied Materials01:01:22All right. Thank you. I would like to let everybody know that a replay of today's call is going to be available on the IR page of our website by 5:00 P.M. Pacific Time today. In the meantime, thank you for your continued interest in Applied Materials. Operator01:01:35Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Welcome to the Applied Materials fourth quarter of fiscal 2025 earnings call. During the presentation, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. Afterwards, you will be invited to participate in a question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call over to Mike Sullivan, Corporate Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Mike SullivanCorporate Vice President of Investor Relations at Applied Materials00:00:21Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining today's call. With me are Gary Dickerson, our President and CEO, and Brice Hill, our Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that today's call includes forward-looking statements which are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ. Information concerning these risks and uncertainties is discussed in our most recent Form 10-Q and other filings with the SEC. Today's call also includes non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations to GAAP measures can be found in today's earnings press release and in our quarterly earnings materials, which are available on our Investor Relations website at ir.appliedmaterials.com. With that introduction, I'd now like to turn the call over to Gary Dickerson. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:01:03Welcome back, Mike. Applied Materials delivered fiscal fourth quarter results above the midpoint of our guidance to complete another record year. 2025 was our sixth consecutive year of growth, and over this period, we have grown revenue and earnings at annualized rates of approximately 12% and 20%. These results are made possible by our passionate and dedicated employees around the world. Over the past 12 months, we have built new capabilities, strengthened our product portfolio, and streamlined our organization to prepare for the opportunities ahead. Applied is in a tremendous position to benefit as AI computing fuels secular growth in semiconductors and wafer fab equipment. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:01:54As this is our year-end call, I'll begin with a brief review of our performance in 2025, then I'll provide our latest market outlook, and finally, I'll describe how our inflection-focused innovation strategy enables us to extend our leadership in the most valuable and fastest-growing areas of the market as next-generation technologies ramp in volume production in 2026 and beyond. Looking back at fiscal 2025, while it was a growth year for Applied, our growth rate was tempered due to increased trade restrictions and an unfavorable market mix. Over the past 12 months, multiple trade rule changes have reduced the size of our accessible market in China. Overall, China declined to 28% of our total systems and service revenues in fiscal 2025 and to 25% for our fourth quarter. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:02:59In 2026, we expect wafer fab equipment spending in China to be lower, and we are not anticipating significant changes to market restrictions. In the areas of the market where we can operate, we are competing well and maintaining market share. Outside of China, the fastest-growing areas of the market in 2025 were segments where Applied had low or no share. In leading-edge foundry logic, investment was more oriented toward advanced lithography. We believe this is a positive leading indicator for process equipment demand in 2026. NAND, where historically Applied has lower market share, is on track to approximately double in 2025, even though it remains a relatively small portion of the wafer fab equipment market. In DRAM, where Applied has strong process technology leadership, overall spending is tracking to be approximately flat for calendar 2025. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:04:11Nevertheless, we strengthened our leadership position in DRAM, growing revenues from leading-edge customers by more than 50% over the past four fiscal quarters. As we look ahead to 2026, we expect the spending mix to play more to Applied's strengths, with leading-edge foundry logic, DRAM, and advanced packaging being the fastest-growing areas of the market. I recently returned from an extended trip to Asia. My discussions with customers and partners reinforce my view that opportunities for the semiconductor industry and Applied Materials have never been greater. Our customers are engaging with us to ensure we are ready to support significant production ramps in the coming years. AI has reached a tipping point that is accelerating investment in next-generation computing infrastructure and advanced silicon. Today, we are seeing a virtuous cycle of innovation and demand. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:05:14Advances in performance, energy consumption, and cost of AI computing open up new AI applications that, in turn, significantly increase demand for AI compute capacity. Recent third-party forecasts predict that the semiconductor industry will grow at a compound annual rate between 10%-15% over the next five years, driving a healthy increase in wafer fab equipment spending. We expect 2026 to be another growth year for Applied with our revenue being weighted toward the second half of the calendar year. AI computing is not only fueling growth but also reshaping the semiconductor roadmap and changing the way chips are designed and manufactured. Foundational semiconductor technology plays a critical role in increasing performance and bringing down the cost of AI in the data center and at the edge. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:06:18Today, major technology inflections are underway in five key areas: leading-edge logic, high-performance DRAM, high-bandwidth memory or DRAM stacking, advanced packaging for heterogeneous integration, and power electronics. At Applied, our core strategy is inflection-focused innovation. We partner with our customers to see technology inflections early. We focus our research and development on the most critical and valuable challenges on their roadmaps using deep co-innovation engagement models, and we create highly differentiated solutions by connecting our broad portfolio of capabilities and technologies. The three products we recently launched at SEMICON West are great examples of how this strategy works. Our new Xtera epitaxy system enables higher-performance gate-all-around transistors for two nanometers and beyond. Xtera creates void-free source drain structures that provide higher transistor speeds that are especially critical for AI computing. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:07:34The Xtera system integrates Epi cleaning, and etch, resulting in a 40% improvement in uniformity and 50% lower gas usage compared to traditional Epi. Kinex is the industry's first integrated die-to-wafer bonder. Hybrid bonding enables significant improvement in performance, power consumption, and costs for both complex multi-chip packages and die stacking. Kinex is a six-step integrated system with onboard metrology that provides higher accuracy bonding, smaller interconnect pitches, and higher yields for new logic and memory packaging architectures. PROVision 10 is designed to improve yield in 3D devices and further extends our leadership in eBeam metrology. eBeam metrology is critical for 3D devices as it can see through multiple layers of 3D chips and provide multi-layer images to identify defects in buried structures. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:08:44This system is the first to use cold field emission technology for metrology, which increases image resolution by 50% and imaging speed 10x compared to conventional thermal field emission technology. Overall, Applied is very well positioned at the most valuable technology inflections and in areas of the market that will grow fastest as AI is deployed on a large scale. The process tool-of-record positions that we have established over the past several years give us confidence that we will extend our strong leadership position in logic, DRAM, and packaging as advanced technology nodes ramp in volume production. Another key theme we consistently hear from our customers and our customers' customers is that co-optimization of the technology stack is more critical than ever. We are expanding our deep multi-year co-innovation engagements that focus on system technology co-optimization. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:09:55Our high-velocity co-innovation model provides chipmakers and chip designers much earlier access to next-generation process technology to accelerate their new chip and system architectures. This is a core value proposition of Applied Materials' equipment and process innovation and commercialization platform, or EPIC. Construction of the platform's flagship facility, the EPIC Center in Silicon Valley, is on track, and we are excited to begin operations next year. Our co-optimization strategies extend well beyond R&D. As our customers race to bring these complex new device architecture inflections to market, we are providing advanced service solutions that help them rapidly transfer new technology into their pilot lines and then rapidly optimize device performance, yield, and cost in volume production. In 2025, our core service business delivered another year of double-digit growth, with more than two-thirds of our service revenue generated from subscriptions. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:11:11In AGS and across Applied, we are rapidly adopting AI and digital tools. This enables us to drive higher velocity and productivity, innovate the way we work, and streamline our organization to meet the opportunities ahead. Before I hand over to Brice, I'll quickly summarize. Fiscal 2025 was our sixth consecutive year of growth, even as trade restrictions and an unfavorable market mix trimmed our growth rate for the year. As we look ahead, large-scale AI adoption will drive substantial investment in AI computing infrastructure, including advanced semiconductors and wafer fab equipment. Applied's inflection-focused innovation strategy positions us for another record year in 2026 as we gain share at the highest-value technology inflections in the fastest-growing areas of the market. As next-generation technologies ramp in volume production over the coming years, we will extend our leadership in logic, DRAM, and packaging. Brice, over to you. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:12:26Thank you, Gary, and thanks everyone for joining today's call. I am pleased that Applied delivered record annual revenue, gross margin dollars, operating profit, and earnings per share in fiscal 2025. Looking ahead into 2026, I believe we are in great position to benefit from favorable market trends. Based on growing demand for AI data center capacity, we forecast that leading-edge foundry logic, DRAM, and high-bandwidth memory will be the fastest-growing areas of the semiconductor equipment market. We have strong leadership positions in these segments today, and we have targeted our R&D investments to create new products and technologies that will enable even faster and more energy-efficient transistors, chips, and systems and drive growth for Applied. In addition, we have been working closely with our customers to better understand their longer-term demand expectations and align our supply chain and manufacturing slots to meet their needs for advanced capacity. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:13:25Based on our conversations with our customers and other industry players, we are preparing our operations and service organizations to be ready to support higher demand beginning in the second half of calendar 2026. Next, I'll briefly summarize our fiscal 2025 results versus fiscal 2024. Revenue grew 4% to $28.4 billion, with growth across all of our segments. Semiconductor systems revenue was up 4%, growing even as the impact of trade restrictions significantly reduced our access to the market in China. The impact of these restrictions was equivalent to around 10% of the China market in fiscal 2024 and more than double that amount in fiscal 2025. On a global basis, we generated record foundry systems revenue along with record DRAM sales outside China, and we posted record revenue in both Taiwan and Korea. Applied Global Services revenue grew 3% to a record $6.4 billion. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:14:27The recurring parts, services, and software portion of AGS grew by double digits in the year, while the 200-millimeter equipment business declined. We grew display revenue by 20%. I am pleased that we increased non-GAAP gross margin by 120 basis points to 48.8%, the highest level in 25 years. We shipped a richer mix of advanced systems and increased prices broadly, helping to more than offset cost increases. Non-GAAP operating expenses grew 5%, primarily driven by a 10% increase in R&D investments. At the end of the year, we announced actions to reduce headcount and enable us to scale Applied more productively as we capture the growth opportunities we see in 2026 and beyond. We continue to shift spending to strategic areas, adding people in fields like advanced analytics that are critical to the speed and efficiency of our R&D programs and operations. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:15:28Non-GAAP earnings per share increased 9%. We generated nearly $8 billion in cash from operations. Free Cash Flow of $5.7 billion included elevated capital spending of $2.3 billion, over half of which was used in building the new EPIC Center in Silicon Valley, which will open next year and become the most advanced collaborative semiconductor equipment and process innovation facility in the world. We distributed approximately $6.3 billion to shareholders. We paid $1.4 billion in cash dividends, and the quarterly dividend per share was increased by 15% during the year to $0.46. Operating income from Applied Global Services more than covered the dividend payment. We allocated $4.9 billion to our share repurchase program and reduced shares outstanding by more than 3%. Turning to fiscal Q4, we delivered revenue and non-GAAP EPS above the midpoint of guidance. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:16:27China revenue declined to 29% of total company revenue, which is in line with our longer-term average and well below a peak of 45% in the first quarter of fiscal 2024. Non-GAAP gross margin was at the midpoint of guidance and up 60 basis points year-over-year, while non-GAAP operating expenses were slightly higher than our expectation and up 3% year-over-year. Turning to the segments, semiconductor systems and AGS revenue exceeded our expectations for the quarter, while non-GAAP operating margin for both segments declined along with revenue on a year-on-year basis. Lastly, display revenue exceeded our expectation for the quarter and was up 68% year-over-year. Next, I'll share several reporting changes we are making that will help us drive further efficiency gains and also give investors more visibility into our semiconductor and services businesses. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:17:23First, as of Q4 fiscal 2025, our display business is being reported in corporate and other. There is no change to our display strategy. Next, as of Q1 fiscal 2026, we are moving our 200-millimeter equipment business from Applied Global Services to semiconductor systems. This change will increase our operational efficiency and enable investors to see all of our semiconductor systems revenue in one place. Also, as a result, Applied Global Services will consist entirely of recurring revenue. This will make it easier for investors to track our subscription-like growth in services. Finally, as of Q1 of fiscal 2026, we are fully allocating corporate support costs to our businesses. This change will have the effect of reducing semiconductor systems and AGS operating margins, but also give our teams better visibility and opportunity to optimize these costs. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:18:21Now, I'll share our guidance for Q1, which includes the reporting changes I just outlined. We expect company revenue of $6.85 billion+ or -$500 million, and non-GAAP EPS of $2.18+ or -$0.20. Within this outlook, we expect semiconductor systems revenue of around $5.025 billion. AGS should generate revenue of around $1.52 billion. Corporate and other revenue should be around $305 million, composed primarily of display revenue. We currently expect non-GAAP gross margin to be approximately 48.4% in Q1 and remain at that level until volumes ramp to support higher demand beginning in the second half of the calendar year. Non-GAAP operating expenses should be around $1.33 billion, which is up only slightly from fiscal Q4 because the actions we recently took are mostly offsetting the increase we normally see in Q1 due to the timing of annual merit increases and equity compensation expenses. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:19:26Finally, we are modeling a tax rate of around 13%. In summary, our customers are indicating to us that wafer fab equipment spending is likely to accelerate beginning in the second half of calendar 2026. In addition, we see a positive fab equipment spending mix developing for Applied. AI data center investments translate to strong demand for our most enabling products in leading-edge foundry logic, DRAM, and high-bandwidth memory, along with advanced services that help our customers accelerate ramps and yields. Thank you for listening, and now, Mike, let's begin the Q&A. Mike SullivanCorporate Vice President of Investor Relations at Applied Materials00:20:02Thanks, Brice. To help us reach as many people as we can on today's call, please ask just one question and no more than one brief follow-up question. Operator, let's please begin. Operator00:20:13Certainly, and our first question comes from the line of CJ Muse Cantor Fitzgerald. Your question, please. Yeah, good afternoon. CJ MuseSenior Managing Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:20:21Thank you for taking the question. I guess, Gary, the world has clearly changed since NVIDIA reported August 26th and discussed $3 trillion-$4 trillion in AI infrastructure spending. Curious, given your trip to visit with clients over the very near term, how your conversations have evolved in the last few months? How has your visibility changed, and how are you preparing your supply chain for this likely tremendous growth? Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:20:46Hi, CJ. Thanks for the question. Yeah, I have been spending a lot of time with customers and just came back from a long trip to Asia. I would say I was meeting with the R&D leaders and CEOs of our largest customers. Just like you said, AI is the biggest focus for all of our customers. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:21:06It's driving the WFE mix to segments driven by AI, including leading-edge foundry logic and DRAM, where Applied has strong number one positions. Applied is in deep, high-velocity co-innovation relationships with all of these different customers. We have very high share. If you look at the transistor for Gate-All-Around or Backside Power and leading-edge foundry logic, we have very strong visibility and co-innovation relationships with customers over four technology nodes, a decade out in the future. Very high visibility in terms of our positions in leading-edge foundry logic and in DRAM, and high confidence we're going to outperform as those advanced chips ramp going forward in the future. The other thing that I heard and we've been seeing over the last couple of months is a major improvement in customer demand visibility. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:22:13Customers, just like you said, they're planning large ramps of advanced factories, and they want to make sure our supply chain operations and service teams are ready to deliver. We're getting more than one year visibility, in some cases two years visibility with a number of these different customers because, as we talked about in the prepared remarks in the second half of 2026, we will see significant ramps for these advanced factories. Again, customers want to make sure that especially our supply chains are ready to deliver. Of course, the improved visibility is critical to our ability to ensure on-time delivery to customer needs. I'd say that's, CJ, the biggest thing that's changed in the last couple of months. CJ MuseSenior Managing Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:23:00Very helpful. Maybe, Brice, you announced the headcount reduction over the last quarter. CJ MuseSenior Managing Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:23:08I'm curious how we should think about that and the implications to gross margins and OpEx into first half calendar of 2026, perhaps versus second half given the ramp that you've talked about. Thank you. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:23:20Yeah, thanks, CJ. Good to hear from you. On the reduction, if you look at our Q1 spend in our guide, you'll see that we do not have the uplift that we typically have in Q1 for our annual pay raises and the share-based compensation increases that typically happen. You'll be able to quantify the rough change in that quarter from that perspective. Just to highlight, that was a years-long program that we worked on to increase velocity and productivity across the company. For the balance of 2026, we'll add back some skills that we need to fill in for the company. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:24:04It was really a wholesale evaluation of all the staffing model we have across the entire company. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:24:10Yeah, CJ, maybe I'll add another aspect to this. In strategic planning, we had a big focus on innovating the way we work, including AI and digital technologies, and driving, like Brice said, higher velocity and productivity. That is really at the foundation of how companies compete. Huge focus, especially on velocity across all of Applied Materials, and then streamlining our organization to optimize future performance. As we went through these changes, we also wanted to make sure, as I talked about, we see significant demand coming from our customers. We wanted to make sure as we are doing this overall company and workforce optimization to improve the performance of Applied, we are also ready to meet those major customer ramps in the second half of 2026 and then going forward. Operator00:25:05Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Krish Sankar from TD Cowen. Your question, please. Krish SankarManaging Director at TD Cowen00:25:11Yeah, thanks for taking my question. Gary, my first question is, as you mentioned, you're clearly gaining share in new technologies like Gate All-Around and Backside Power Delivery. When I look at your leadership products, it seems like PVD is moving to ALD on the CVD, CMP, and etch side. Besides the usual U.S. and Japanese competitors, there's increasing domestic China competition. I'm kind of curious how to think about the momentum in those leadership products for the next two to three years as you see increasing competition both globally and from China. I have a follow-up for Brice. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:25:43Okay, Krish, there's a lot in that first question, but thank you for the question. We have very strong positions, Gate All-Around, Backside Power. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:25:54Besides being number one in process equipment for leading logic and foundry, we're also number one in DRAM and advanced packaging, especially for high-bandwidth memory. Those are the most important segments for AI energy-efficient computing. Leading-edge foundry logic and DRAM will be the fastest-growing segments in 2026 and for the next several years. Krish, we're performing well across all our products. Again, I am extremely confident that we will grow share, especially in these segments that are enabling AI energy-efficient computing. We have deep relationships with all of these different customers across multiple technology nodes. We see strong demand for our products, increasing demand for integrated systems, for transistors, wiring, and now Kinex for packaging. All of that, I'm very optimistic about. I'll come back to your PVD comment in just a minute here. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:26:54The biggest change we've seen in our competitive position in the near term is trade restrictions. We used to serve the entire global WFE market before restrictions were implemented. By 2024, we were restricted from serving around 10% of China's WFE market, mainly in leading-edge logic and the domestic NAND market. In the last month of 2024 and the first month of 2025, the restrictions significantly increased for us, and we could no longer serve China's DRAM market and some of the ICAPS market. Our impact grew to well over 20% of the China WFE market, which I think everybody knows that the WFE market in China has been elevated this year and also over the past few years with China approaching 40% of total WFE. This change in restrictions was a very big impact, especially in 2025. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:27:59Non-U.S. equipment companies do not have the same restrictions. Restricted customers can buy from those companies even if they would rather buy from Applied. We have put a lot of time and studied this topic very carefully. What we can see is that where we can compete, we are doing very well. If I look at China going forward, our business has returned to normalized levels. We talked about kind of mid-20s on our semi business, our systems, and AGS. Looking ahead, we do not anticipate significant new restrictions. In fact, we believe that our share in China ICAPS, where we can compete, was flat from 2024-2025. That is across, Krish, all of our different leadership products. We think we can continue to hold and have an opportunity to even gain share going forward. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:29:02I say this because we have several major ICAPS new products coming for China and non-China that add to the strong products we have today, enabling us to enter new ICAPS markets and also better compete in cost-sensitive areas of the market. We will increase our ICAPS addressable market opportunity in China and worldwide. Again, where we can compete, I'm actually very optimistic with our position. Back to PVD, your question on PVD. I'll tell you, Krish, PVD is doing great where we can compete. We grew PVD in 2025. We have a positive outlook in 2026 and into the future. I talked earlier about AI. PVD is enabling low-resistance wiring, and that's critical for faster and more energy-efficient chips. With advanced chips, you have hundreds of miles of wiring in a single chip. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:30:10If you could imagine, that long wire keeps getting thinner and thinner, and moving data through that wire at high speed with low power is incredibly hard, almost like magic. Applied is the clear leader in wiring innovation. Krish, we see strong demand for PVD, strong growth into 2026 and into the future. We are also innovating. I talked about that pipeline of innovative products. We have new PVD innovations specifically for ICAPS beyond all of the other things that we are doing that will help us in performance in that particular segment. The last thing, in the leading edge, we do have an increase in demand for the integrated products, including selective ALD and selective Moly, which we just had some big wins in the most critical applications. Long answer, Krish. Krish SankarManaging Director at TD Cowen00:31:09Thank you very much, Gary. No, it is extremely helpful and very informative. Krish SankarManaging Director at TD Cowen00:31:13Thanks for that. Just a quick follow-up for Brice. Brice, how do you think about the impact of this 200-millimeter movement from AGS to Semi? Is there a way to quantify it for Q1, or how much was it in fiscal year 2025? Thank you. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:31:24Yeah, it's approximately $125 million, Krish, for Q1 and approximately the same number in Q4. We're moving that from our services business to our equipment business. We think that'll be easier for us to manage and easier for investors to understand those two different reportable segments. Krish SankarManaging Director at TD Cowen00:31:46Thanks a lot, Brice. Thanks, Gary. Operator00:31:48Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Vivek Arya from Bank of America Securities. Your question, please. Vivek AryaManaging Director at Bank of America Securities00:31:55Thank you for taking the question. You mentioned you expect fiscal 2026 mix to work in your favor. You also mentioned the significant growth in the back half. Vivek AryaManaging Director at Bank of America Securities00:32:06I'm curious, do you think there is a potential for WFE to grow high single-digit, close to double-digit next year and for Applied to outperform that? Because you do seem to have better visibility, and you also expect the mix to work in your favor. I'm just hoping that if you could give us some sense of what the market could be doing and how is Applied positioned with respect to that market. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:32:31Hi, Vivek. It's Brice. Thanks for your question. We do expect strong growth in 2026 led by leading edge and DRAM. The headwind that we have, we do still expect some digestion in China and in ICAPS. It is kind of a similar situation relative to 2025. We think leading edge will be very strong. DRAM will be very strong. These are pulled by the headline of the AI solutions in those spaces. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:33:04And then a little bit of digestion on the ICAPS side, but we do think it will be a growth year. Vivek AryaManaging Director at Bank of America Securities00:33:10Okay. On the clarification side, Brice, how much of the $600 million BIS headwind is in Q1 and the rest of the year? And if I could squeeze in the real question for Gary, one of your peers suggested an $8 billion or so, I think WFE for every $100 billion or so in data center build-out. Do you agree with that number? Do you have a different number? And how do you see the mix within that $8 billion playing to Applied's strength? Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:33:45Thank you. Okay, Vivek. Starting with the affiliate rule that came out and affected our Q4 and then was suspended. We had shared that $110 million would be affected in our Q4. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:33:59We did not ship that in Q4, but we will ship that in Q1. The first answer is that is included in our guide for Q1. The $600 million is still a good estimate for what is in the rest of 2026. We did not share any linearity for that. In fact, it is still being closed in terms of delivery dates, etc. I would think of that as through the rest of the year. On the WFE per gigawatt, we spent some time thinking about this. We think the best way to think about this is about 15% of leading-edge wafer starts and DRAM wafer starts are allocated towards AI data center solutions. If you think about capacity planning, that is growing at a mid 30% CAGR across the industry. Today, 15% of those two end markets are growing at mid 30%. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:34:56For companies that are planning capacity for two and three years out, they make that projection, and that much WFE should be allocated towards data center. We can talk more about that in a follow-up, but I think that is a good way to think about how much is being allocated. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:35:11Hi, Vivek. You asked about what does that mean, the AI demand mean for mix and for Applied. I talked about this earlier, that the two fastest-growing segments for 2026 and going forward are leading-edge foundry logic and DRAM, including high-bandwidth memory. In both of those cases, again, we are clear number one. We are gaining share, high visibility in Gate All-Around. That will become clear as those advanced factories ramp in the latter half of 2026. We have very strong visibility, very strong position. The same thing is true with DRAM. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:35:52I think longer term, if you look at Gate-All-Around, Backside Power, we're positioned to capture more than 50% of our served market. I have high confidence that we are gaining share in Gate-All-Around. I mean, that's all of the discussions I had with these R&D leaders when I was in Asia in the last month. In DRAM, high-bandwidth memory, we're in really great position there. We've gained a significant amount of share over the last several years. As FinFET ramps, we have strong leadership in FinFET. That's going to be adopted in DRAM, 4F-squared. We also are in a great position. In HBM, future generations will adopt hybrid bonding where we also have clear leadership. We announced Kinex at SEMICON West. The mix is definitely working in our favor, and we're well positioned going forward. Vivek AryaManaging Director at Bank of America Securities00:36:47Thank you. Operator00:36:49Thank you. Operator00:36:51Our next question comes from the line of Stacy Rasgon from Bernstein Research. Your question, please. Stacy RasgonManaging Director and Senior Analyst of U.S. Semiconductors and Semiconductor Capital Equipment at Bernstein Research00:36:57Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. For the first one, Brice, this second-half lift in demand. What does that imply for the trajectory in the first half? Are you thinking revenue stays kind of in this ballpark until we hit the second half, or does it grow a little bit and then it grows a lot? Maybe even if you wanted to quantify second-half versus first-half split or something like that. How do we think about the first half relative to the second half given the lift in the second half? Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:37:24Yeah, for the semi business, Stacy, and thanks for the question. For the semi business, we think it'll be flattish until we see that growth. We will see a little growth in the AGS business. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:37:36We expect that, as we've shared, to be growing at low double digits, and that's fairly continuous growth through the course of the year. For the semi business in the short term, it'll be flattish. Stacy RasgonManaging Director and Senior Analyst of U.S. Semiconductors and Semiconductor Capital Equipment at Bernstein Research00:37:46Until like Q3, I guess you're thinking, or? Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:37:51Yeah, for us, it'll really be our Q4 and our Q1 of next year. That's when the calendar, that's when it matches the calendar. We'll see a, we expect a significant uplift there from leading edge, especially. Until then, it'll be slower growth. Stacy RasgonManaging Director and Senior Analyst of U.S. Semiconductors and Semiconductor Capital Equipment at Bernstein Research00:38:10Okay. I guess for my follow-up, you sort of mentioned gross margins kind of staying in this range until we see that lift. Do you expect a material lift in gross margins when that material lift in revenue comes through? Stacy RasgonManaging Director and Senior Analyst of U.S. Semiconductors and Semiconductor Capital Equipment at Bernstein Research00:38:24How do we expect the gross margin trajectory on the back of those revenues as that comes through second half of next year? Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:38:32Yeah, the 48.4% guide for Q1 is good for this level of business. I'll just highlight in Q1, we're also expecting a normal share from a China shipment perspective. It should be for the whole company, it should be in the order of 29% and less than that for AGS and our Semi business. That level, without a significant uplift in the business, that's good for this size business. When we do get to the second half, added volume will help with cost improvements. Over time, we continue to work on our pricing and cost programs. You can see with the 120 basis point uplift that we had in 2025, most of that was driven by price improvement. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:39:22We will continue with that program, but it takes time to affect the margins. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:39:29Stacy, this is Gary. One thing I would say in terms of margins, I do think that we will be able to drive sustainable improvements in margins over time. I mean, one thing in the industry, you see a tremendous amount of profits being generated with the AI demand throughout the entire ecosystem. Our customer profitability has improved significantly. As I mentioned earlier, also, we are enabling these incredible innovations. I mentioned the hundreds of miles of wiring in an advanced chip. I mean, again, for AI, this is incredibly valuable. As we continue to work with our customers, enabling those innovations that are critical for AI, bringing new products to market, I believe that we can sustainably drive our margins higher going forward. Stacy RasgonManaging Director and Senior Analyst of U.S. Semiconductors and Semiconductor Capital Equipment at Bernstein Research00:40:23Got it. Thank you, guys. Operator00:40:26Thank you. Operator00:40:28Our next question comes from the line of Timothy Arcuri from UBS. Your question, please. Timothy ArcuriManaging Director at UBS00:40:33Thanks a lot. Brice, I'm trying to understand China a little better. All these affiliates were banned, and then they got reinstated. The way that China usually operates is that when they were rushing to get in front of the ban, and now I would think that they're going to come back and they're going to just try to get as much equipment as they can, as fast as they can. Is the add-back not going to be more than 600 tools? In fiscal Q1, are you taking slots away from the other customers to give to them? I guess I'm trying to figure out how we do not add more than 600 tools back the way that these Chinese customers typically operate. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:41:10Thanks for the question, Tim. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:41:13Yeah, for the first quarter, 110 tools is in the quarter. Those tools are built and will ship. For the balance, we were not building those tools. We did not know we would be able to ship them. It is going to take time to do the supply chain and actually make the builds. We will have to finalize the date with the customers. They may have interest in working that process as quickly as possible, but I would just say the good way to think about this is cycle time, and we will spread it through the year. Timothy ArcuriManaging Director at UBS00:41:43Okay. I guess, Gary, I wanted to go back to PVD. This is like a third of your systems revenue per Gartner. It is a super important piece of your business. It does seem a little bit like ALD is eating into this franchise a little bit. Timothy ArcuriManaging Director at UBS00:42:04I know it's super important. It's been growing. How do you sort of protect that franchise from you have one franchise you're very strong in, and one where your share is not as high? Do you think that we're all kind of maybe too concerned about the degree to which ALD is eating into PVD? Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:42:20Thanks. Hey, Tim, thanks for the question. I absolutely think you're too concerned. Again, as I mentioned, I just spent a lot of time in Asia with our R&D leaders for our top customers. We have deep visibility into their technology roadmaps for four generations. I can tell you, again, we have high confidence. PVD is going to continue to ramp. I mentioned the hundreds of miles of wiring in an advanced chip. We have innovations that are really amazing innovations. We are the leader in wiring. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:42:59If you think about an AI server, again, how you move the data at a very high speed with low power is enormously important. That is within a chip, chip to chip. There is so much innovation that is happening there. I do not know where this comes from on the ALD eating PVD share, that type of thing. All I can say is that we have extremely high visibility. We have unique technologies, including PVD, and we have unique ability to combine technologies into integrated platforms. One of those integrated platforms, we combine selective ALD together with PVD and five other technologies. That is part of what is enabling those hundreds of miles of wiring. Applied is really unique in being able to deliver those kinds of innovations. That is enabling 50% improvement in resistivity. It is a billion-dollar business for us every year. That is going to continue. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:44:02Again, deep visibility into the N+1, N+2, N+3, N+4 technology nodes. Another innovation that we just won with leading foundry logic companies is integrating selective Moly with PVD into an integrated platform for the most critical applications for our customers. Again, Tim, very high visibility. I agree with you. It's a great business. It's going to keep growing in 2026 and keep growing as we go forward. Timothy ArcuriManaging Director at UBS00:44:40Okay, Gary. Thank you. Operator00:44:42Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Aatif Malik from Citi. Your question, please. Aatif MalikSVP at Citi00:44:49Hi. Thank you for taking my questions. Welcome back, Mike. Brice, I'm just trying to understand the China commentary. You're expecting China to kind of stay at this mid 20%s level for the silicon products into next year. Aatif MalikSVP at Citi00:45:05If the assumption is that the domestic China spending is coming down next year, why would this number not be lower than mid 25% if the rest of China is growing? I'm just trying to understand the moving pieces. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:45:18Yes. Thanks, Aatif. For Q1, that just happens to be what's in the mix. We do expect it. If we do have the digestion that we're expecting in China, then we will see it lower during the course of the year. That will be more than offset to get a growth here. That will be more than offset by the strength in leading edge and DRAM that we highlighted earlier. I'll just admit, I think we've been wrong for two years in a row forecasting a digestion related to China, and it's been stronger each year. We could be surprised on the upside as we go through. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:45:57Right now, Gary mentioned this a few minutes ago. China has been almost 40% of WFE. It's been elevated. They've been investing heavily to get to self-sustainability from a production perspective. We don't have as good a visibility because of a large number of customers there and continuing creation of new customers. It's not as easy to forecast as the rest of the mature market. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:46:26Yeah. I'll just add one thing I would say also. Longer term, what we think is that ICAPS remains about one-third of WFE, and then you have memory and leading-edge foundry logic. China is really mostly an ICAPS market, and there has been this elevated spending over multiple years. We think that if you just look at end market demand, we think that moves back into that zip code over a longer period of time. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:47:01When that happens, hard to anticipate exactly when that's going to happen, but that's what we think about over a longer period. Aatif MalikSVP at Citi00:47:08Great. Gary, one for you. You visited several customers. Are your memory customers constrained by shell capacity? I mean, why are we talking about a second-half inflection or the first half? I mean, I understand the first half is being dragged lower by China, but is there a situation where the memory guys are constrained by shell capacity? That explains why second half is going higher? Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:47:34I can take the question, Aatif. First, we would say that factory schedules, of course, matter. Each customer has their own schedule for installation and ramp and qualification and the like. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:47:52Our information on the macro level, we had several people ask this question, but our information on the macro level suggests that there is factory capacity from a space perspective to ramp across the industry. You will just have to ask each customer. That is a macro answer. You will have to ask each customer for their situation. We do not think the capacity is limiting the ramp at this point. Aatif MalikSVP at Citi00:48:21Thank you. Operator00:48:21Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Charles Shi from Needham & Company. Your question, please. Charles ShiManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Needham & Company00:48:27Hi. Thanks for taking my question. I have a follow-up on China. You did mention outside of restrictions, you are not losing share, but your U.S. peer, the closest one, reported much stronger China revenue growth this year. I think they are probably growing at a 20% year-on-year. You are probably declining more than 10% year-on-year. Charles ShiManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Needham & Company00:48:54Just really trying to reconcile, how are you not losing share? Is there some nuances that we may be missing and that would suggest you actually did not lose share in China despite the numbers would suggest otherwise? Thank you. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:49:09Hi, Charles. I'll start on this one. I think the nuance, we clarified that, or we made an adjustment in there and said, if we look at the accounts that we can support, we're holding our share and competing well in China. If you just take the macro number, we've certainly lost share in China. I think Gary commented that if you go back to 2024, just over 10% of the market was restricted for U.S. companies. If you go to 2025, it's more than doubled. The restriction has more than doubled. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:49:51We have certainly lost share in China because a larger portion of the market is inaccessible to us. When we look at the accounts that we can sell to, we feel we are competing very well. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:50:04Yeah, Charles, this is Gary. I think we have done a lot of work on this. There are lots of different sources of data that can cross-validate the numbers. Again, when we look at it, we cannot comment on other people, their ability to serve global customers that are in China versus domestic customers. Everybody is going to have a little difference in terms of what they are serving in China. Certainly for us, NAND, the global NAND in China, is not a significant business. DRAM, however, which really was restricted at the beginning of our fiscal year, we have very high share in DRAM. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:50:57If you look at the top leading DRAM companies in this last year, I think our business was up something like 50%. For Applied, DRAM going away had a really big impact on us. Again, Charles, I think we have pretty good confidence in maintaining share where we can compete, but there is going to be a different mix for every company. I do not know, Brice, if you want to add anything else. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:51:25No, I think that covers it. Mike SullivanCorporate Vice President of Investor Relations at Applied Materials00:51:27Yeah. The other thing that I would add to that, Charles, is the other part of that is not only the DRAM, but it is the NAND. If you think about it, what was shipping? You have multinational NAND companies that are in China, and they were presumably pretty strong. As you may know, in our mix, that is the lowest area for us. Mike SullivanCorporate Vice President of Investor Relations at Applied Materials00:51:48Gary talked about the DRAM impact. The other impact is NAND being strong. That equation in the future on a global basis, we think, is changing. Operator00:51:57Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Joe Quatrochi from Wells Fargo. Your question, please. Joe QuatrochiDirector and Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo00:52:08Yeah. Thanks for taking the question. I was wondering if you could help us understand just what was the size of the advanced packaging business in fiscal 2025, and how did that grow? Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:52:18Hi, Joe. It's Brice. It's a little bit lower than it was in 2024. 2024 was buoyed by the high shipments in the end of the year for HBM. It's essentially been running at the same level for 2025, minus that extra shipments at the end of that year. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:52:44As we look forward, Gary is going to comment about the changing technologies for advanced packaging over time. We think we are well-positioned for that. We still think that business will be growing significantly along with AI data center and all the different packaging capabilities that will be required over time. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:53:04Yeah, Joe. Applied is number one in high-bandwidth memory. That business was not as strong in 2025 as it was the previous year. That was one thing that impacted our relative growth rate. It is pretty close to flat year-over-year, 2025 versus 2024, with the HBM coming down versus where it was. What I would say is that we are still on track to what we have discussed before. We have grown the business from around $500 million to about $1.5 billion today. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:53:39We are on track still to double this business to $3 billion or more over the next few years. We are in a very good position. As I said earlier, we are number one in HBM. As HBM ramps over time, that puts us in a good position. We have a great portfolio of products. Especially, I mentioned the trip in Asia and meeting with a lot of these R&D leaders. There is an enormous focus for our customers to go to larger packaging sizes so they can connect more GPUs, CPUs, and all these different computing components to improve performance and power an enormous amount. Applied is extremely well-positioned in HBM, and we are also well-positioned as these new technologies ramp for the future. I think high confidence in being able to double this business again over the next few years. Joe QuatrochiDirector and Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo00:54:35That is helpful detail. Joe QuatrochiDirector and Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo00:54:39Maybe as a follow-up on the China entity with the $600 million that maybe comes back here, any help on what the split of that was for AGS in terms of services? I assume that would basically just kind of turn right back on, given you're able to service those customers. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:54:57Yeah. You're right. There was some AGS in that. We didn't offer that, and I don't have it at my fingertips. So there was a component of AGS, but I think the majority was equipment. Joe QuatrochiDirector and Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo00:55:08Thank you. Operator00:55:10Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Shane Brett from Morgan Stanley. Your question, please. Shane BrettEquity Research Analyst at Morgan Stanley00:55:18Thank you for letting me ask a question. My first question is, you mentioned that your revenue from leading-edge DRAM customers is up 50% in fiscal 2025, which is stronger than those customers' DRAM WFE spending, to my knowledge. Shane BrettEquity Research Analyst at Morgan Stanley00:55:31Where specifically are these share gains of these leading-edge customers coming from? Now that you're past extremely tough China DRAM comps, just how do you expect your DRAM business to track in 2026? Thank you. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:55:40Yeah. I'll start, Shane. When you do the year-over-year comparison, it looks flat for us from a DRAM perspective. What was happening in 2024, we shipped a significant amount of business to China customers. We basically had the same business in 2025 without the China customers. All of that business went to the internationals, and that equated to approximately a 50% growth for them. We do expect DRAM to strengthen as we go into 2026 and should be healthy growth across the customers for DRAM investments. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:56:22Yeah. Shane, just in terms of where are we gaining? Certainly, I mentioned earlier high-bandwidth memory. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:56:29That's one part, one segment where Applied is clear number one, and that is helping us. The DRAM companies are driving innovation in IO and Applied. That really leverages a lot of our leadership products and foundry logic. In fact, they're moving to FinFET going forward. That puts Applied in a good position even to gain more share as we go forward. We have a strong position in capacitor scaling. We have a really strong etch share in DRAM, and we've achieved patterning share gains. Those are a few areas. Again, I would say going forward, as these DRAM companies adopt hybrid bonding for HBM, as they adopt FinFET, as they adopt 4F-squared, the vertical channel transistor architecture, in all of those areas, we're positioned to gain share as those new technologies ramp. Shane BrettEquity Research Analyst at Morgan Stanley00:57:28Got it. Thank you. Shane BrettEquity Research Analyst at Morgan Stanley00:57:31The second question may be a little bit critical, but your fiscal 2025 foundry logic revenue is up about 3% year-over-year. Your U.S. peers who should be on a level playing field with you are recording extremely strong double-digit growth through the first three quarters of the year. Just what's your self-assessment on this performance gap with those U.S. peers? How should we have confidence that Applied can outperform foundry logic WFE in 2026? Thank you. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:57:54Foundry logic includes both leading-edge and ICAPS customers. Those two things are mixed together. If you look, we had record revenue in Taiwan, record revenue in Korea. Our performance is extremely strong. In the leading-edge, our revenue is up a significant amount. You have all those things kind of mixed together, I think, in that data because everybody's combining that. Mike SullivanCorporate Vice President of Investor Relations at Applied Materials00:58:24Thanks, Shane. Mike SullivanCorporate Vice President of Investor Relations at Applied Materials00:58:27Operator, we have time for one more question, please. Operator00:58:30Certainly. Our final question for today then comes from the line of Jim Schneider from Goldman Sachs. Your question, please. Jim SchneiderSenior Equity Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:58:36Good evening. Thanks for taking my question. Relative to the strength you're expecting in 2026 across leading-edge logic and DRAM, can you maybe guess which one might grow stronger than the other and which one might start to recover first? Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:58:53Sure, Jim. We think leading-edge will be the strongest grower with DRAM second. That is our forecast. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:59:03Yeah. The one thing I would say, Jim, I think both of them are going to grow at a pretty strong rate. Really, in terms of when we see the revenue, it depends on fab timing. That is why we talked about kind of second half of calendar 2026. Gary DickersonCEO at Applied Materials00:59:21Those were the discussions I had with a lot of the Asian customers when I was traveling and the dramatic improvement in visibility. You have to take that into consideration when you think about the timing of when those ramps will happen. Jim SchneiderSenior Equity Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:59:36Thank you. Maybe as a quick follow-up, growth margins are expecting to increase in the back half once you get better absorption on the costs. I understand that. Are there any other underlying initiatives you are doing to improve growth margins operationally that could cause kind of a further tailwind once we get there? Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials00:59:57Sure. Thanks for the question. On the growth margin side, if you look at 2025, up 120 basis points from 2024, the majority of that really has been improvements in our pricing processes. Good change that we made. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials01:00:15We highlighted in previous calls that we revamped our entire pricing program across the company. We are also working on cost reductions. The cost reductions were offset to some degree by tariff headwinds and by some of the inventory management, etc. The real driver during the year was the price process improvements. Those will continue as we go into 2026. At the calendar second half, as we get more volume and you get some time for those to work, we should be able to improve the gross margins. Mike SullivanCorporate Vice President of Investor Relations at Applied Materials01:00:50Thanks, Jim. Thanks, Jim. Brice, would you like to sum up today's call? Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials01:00:57Thanks, Mike. I'm excited that the investments we're making in leading-edge foundry logic, DRAM, and high-bandwidth memory give us technology leadership at the same time our customers are signaling an inflection in the AI-related fab equipment spending in the second half of calendar 2026. Brice HillCFO at Applied Materials01:01:14I wish everyone a nice Thanksgiving, and I look forward to seeing many of you soon at the UBS conference in Scottsdale. Mike, please close the call. Mike SullivanCorporate Vice President of Investor Relations at Applied Materials01:01:22All right. Thank you. I would like to let everybody know that a replay of today's call is going to be available on the IR page of our website by 5:00 P.M. Pacific Time today. In the meantime, thank you for your continued interest in Applied Materials. Operator01:01:35Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good day.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesMike SullivanCorporate Vice President of Investor RelationsGary DickersonCEOBrice HillCFOAnalystsVivek AryaManaging Director at Bank of America SecuritiesStacy RasgonManaging Director and Senior Analyst of U.S. Semiconductors and Semiconductor Capital Equipment at Bernstein ResearchJim SchneiderSenior Equity Analyst at Goldman SachsJoe QuatrochiDirector and Equity Research Analyst at Wells FargoShane BrettEquity Research Analyst at Morgan StanleyCharles ShiManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Needham & CompanyCJ MuseSenior Managing Director at Cantor FitzgeraldTimothy ArcuriManaging Director at UBSAatif MalikSVP at CitiKrish SankarManaging Director at TD CowenPowered by