BBVA Banco Frances Q3 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Negative Sentiment: BBVA Argentina's inflation-adjusted net income fell to ARS 38.1 billion in Q3 (down 39.7% q/q), producing a quarterly ROE and ROA of 4.7%, largely due to higher provisions, lower NII, and weaker fair-value income.
  • Positive Sentiment: The bank recorded real-term growth in activity with private sector loans up 6.7% q/q and deposits up 10.2% q/q, lifting market shares to 11.39% (loans) and 10.09% (deposits).
  • Negative Sentiment: Asset quality weakened in Q3 as retail NPLs rose, driving a 37.1% increase in loan loss allowances and a quarterly cost of risk of 6.63%, though the bank's NPL ratio (3.28%) remains below the system average.
  • Positive Sentiment: Management reaffirmed guidance and outlook — targeting real loan growth of ~45–50% YoY (deposits ~30–35%), expects NIM recovery in Q4/2026, and highlighted Central Bank easing (from Dec 1) on reserve rules that should free liquidity and improve profitability.
  • Neutral Sentiment: Capital and liquidity remain ample with a reported capital ratio of 16.7% (temporary decline from sovereign valuation) and liquidity at 44.3% of deposits, and management expects the CET1 ratio to finish the year near ~17%.
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Operator

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to BBVA Argentina's third quarter 2025 results conference call. Today with us are Mr. Diego Cesarini, Head of Asset and Liability Management and Investor Relations; Mrs. Belén Fourcade, Investor Relations Manager; and Mrs. Carmen Morillo Arroyo, CFO, who will be available for the Q&A session. This presentation and the Third Q 2025 earnings release are available on BBVA's investor relations website, ir.bbva.com.ar, and will also be available for download in the chat. First of all, let me point out that some of the statements made during this conference call may be forward-looking statements within the meaning of the safe harbor provisions found in Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 under U.S. Federal Securities Law. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward-looking statements.

Operator

Additional information concerning these factors is contained in BBVA Argentina's Annual Report on Form 20-F for the fiscal year 2024, filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. During the company's presentation, all microphones will be disabled. At this time, we are going to open it up for questions and answers. If you have a question, please write it down in the Q&A section or click on "Raise Hand" for audio questions. You will then receive a request to activate your microphone. Please activate it and pick up your headset to provide optimum sound quality when posing your question. I will now turn the call over to Mrs. Belén Fourcade. Please go ahead.

Belén Fourcade
Investor Relations Manager at BBVA Argentina

Good morning, and thank you all for joining us today. In the third quarter of 2025, BBVA Argentina has managed to sustain its growth strategy, demonstrating the strength of its fundamentals and effectiveness of its management. We maintained a focus on operational efficiency through careful administration of our fees and strict control of expenses, which allowed us to navigate the volatile context in which interest rate levels have doubled. The period was marked by high political uncertainty, which resulted in strong movements in financial variables. The Central Bank implemented a more restrictive monetary policy, with increases in reserve requirements, a new daily compliance scheme for them, and changes in the instruments used to regulate the money supply, which led to a sharp rise in the level and volatility of interest rates.

Belén Fourcade
Investor Relations Manager at BBVA Argentina

The electoral results in the province of Buenos Aires at the beginning of September added further doubts about the continuity of the government's economic policy. Deposit rates increased from levels of 30% at the beginning of July, reaching peaks of 70% during September. Furthermore, demand for exchange rate hedging increased, resulting in some dollarization of deposits, while loan growth slowed down. Nevertheless, credit to the private sector of the system achieved a real-term increase of 7% during the quarter. Although this scenario was quickly reversed after the outcome of the national elections in October heavily supported the ruling party, the results of the financial system were not exempt from the impact of what happened during the quarter.

Belén Fourcade
Investor Relations Manager at BBVA Argentina

On the one hand, the high level of rates affected the continued deterioration of the system's delinquency, and in addition, it had a negative impact on intermediation margins, given the faster speed at which liabilities are renegotiated compared to assets, despite the short duration of the latter. In this scenario, we are leveraged on active pricing, careful portfolio management, and strict control of expenses, which has allowed us to navigate a context of higher provisions and delinquency while still driving growth in activity. The aforementioned negative impact on margins was mitigated by the high percentage of floating rate sovereign debt in the securities portfolio. In this context, the bank's total loans to the private sector grew by 6.7%, and the consolidated market share was 11.39%.

Belén Fourcade
Investor Relations Manager at BBVA Argentina

Regarding deposits, a real-term increase of 10.2% was also achieved, so that the market share rose 44 basis points and reached the double-digit figure for the first time, up to 10.09%. As for asset quality, the NPL ratio of BBVA Argentina on private loans reached 3.28% as of September of 2025, a figure that remains below the system average. BBVA is renowned for presenting delinquency ratios consistently below the sector average, which reflects the quality of its credit risk management and its prudent approach to portfolio origination. Regarding the liquidity ratio, the bank remains at a comfortable level, which at the end of the quarter reached 44.3% of deposits. The capital ratio stood at 16.7%, decreasing 170 basis points compared to the previous quarter, mainly explained by the temporary impact of the sovereign debt valuation. Yet, it continues at ample levels that allow us to sustain our growth strategy.

Belén Fourcade
Investor Relations Manager at BBVA Argentina

Moving to slide 2, 3, and 4, I will now comment on the bank's third quarter 2025 financial results. BBVA Argentina's inflation-adjusted net income in the third quarter of 2025 was ARS 38.1 billion, decreasing 39.7% quarter-over-quarter. This implied a quarterly ROE of 4.7% and a quarterly ROA of 4.7%. The decrease in quarterly operating results was mainly explained by lower operating income, mainly due to: 1) a deterioration in loan loss allowances, 2) lower net interest income, and 3) a drop in the line of net income from measurement of financial instruments at fair value through P&L. These were positively offset by substantially better net fee income, operating expenses, and other operating income, including non-recurrent concepts.

Belén Fourcade
Investor Relations Manager at BBVA Argentina

As previously mentioned, it should be noted that the quarter was marked by an increase in average interest rates in a context of volatility, regulatory changes of minimum reserve requirements, and uncertainty raised by the electoral period, which cleared up after the results, reversing several of the negative impacts. Net income from the net monetary position was 5.7% lower quarter-over-quarter, explained by a stable quarterly inflation. Turning into a P&L line, in slide 3, net interest income was ARS 585.5 billion, decreasing 6.6% quarter-over-quarter. In the third quarter of 2025, interest income increased less than interest expenses in monetary terms, driven by the sudden increase in interest rates. While income from loans increased 19%, income from the government securities increased 66.6%, given the high percentage of TAMAR floating rate bonds in the portfolio, which rapidly captured changes in market rates.

Belén Fourcade
Investor Relations Manager at BBVA Argentina

Expenses increased mainly due to higher deposit costs, in particular due to time deposits. Loan loss allowances increased 37.1%, explained by the deterioration of non-performing loans, in particular on the retail book, which implied higher provisioning, as well as the publicly known deterioration of NPLs, both for BBVA and for the system. The effect of loan loss allowances can be observed in the evolution of the cost of risk, which reached 6.63% in the third quarter of 2025. Net fee income as of the third quarter of 2025 totaled ARS 137.1 billion, increasing 37.5% quarter-over-quarter, thanks to continued alignment in pricing strategies, both in fee income and expenses. During the third quarter of 2025, total operating expenses were ARS 494.6 billion, decreasing 3.4% quarter-over-quarter.

Belén Fourcade
Investor Relations Manager at BBVA Argentina

Several improvements are observed in administrative expenses, mainly due to proactive efficiency measures in: 1) software, 2) outsourced administrative expenses, 3) advertising, and 4) armored transportation. In the case of software, the decrease is due to a re-estimation of expense provisions. For advertising and armored transportation, diverse actions have been taken in the aim of improving efficiency. Both the efficiency ratio, as well as the fee-to-expenses ratio, evidence the stability and improvements that are taking place on these lines of the income statement, and we expect them to improve even further for 2026. Private sector loans as of the third quarter of 2025 totaled ARS 12.8 trillion, increasing 6.7% in real terms quarter-over-quarter.

Belén Fourcade
Investor Relations Manager at BBVA Argentina

Growth was mainly driven by an increase in loans in foreign currency, boosted by commercial lending, mainly pre-financing and financing of exports, and other loans, which included investment project loans and a position in correspondent banks. On the peso portfolio, credit cards and pledge loans stood out. The latter was partially affected by an accounting reclassification done by the subsidiary companies from the other loan lines to the pledge loan line. In the case of consumer loans, prudency policies taken in a context of higher deterioration of non-performing loans were noticeable in this line, with 0% growth. Overdrafts fell 12.1%, driven by the rapid increase in interest rates mentioned previously.

Belén Fourcade
Investor Relations Manager at BBVA Argentina

After years of commercial segment growth over retail, the sudden increase in interest rates took a toll on commercial loan demand, which tends to be more sensitive to changes in interest rate movements, making the commercial loan book slightly fall versus retail in the portfolio mix. BBVA Argentina's consolidated market share of private sector loans reached 11.39% as of the third quarter of 2025, improving from 10.58% a year ago. Regarding asset quality, BBVA Argentina's non-performing loan ratio on private loans reached 3.28% in September 2025, a figure that remains below the system average. This was due to an increase in the non-performing retail portfolio, reflecting a deterioration in non-performing credit card and consumer loans, which aligns with the overall systemic trend. Commercial non-performing loans, however, showed very good performance, remaining in 0.10%.

Belén Fourcade
Investor Relations Manager at BBVA Argentina

As we can see on slide 6, as of the third quarter of 2025, total gross loans and other financing over deposits ratio was 85%, below the 88% recorded in the second quarter of 2025 and above the 65% in the third quarter of 2024. Participation of total loans over assets is 57% versus 58% in the second quarter of 2025 and 43% in the third quarter of 2024, evidencing a slightly higher exposure to the public sector, driven by the changes in reserve requirement regulation concerning reserves in kind, and also in line with a lower origination of loans as a consequence of prudential actions in a high NPL environment. On the funding side, as of the third quarter of 2025, total deposits reached ARS 15.4 trillion, increasing 11.2% quarter-over-quarter. The bank's consolidated market share of private deposits as of the third quarter of 2025 reached 10.09%.

Belén Fourcade
Investor Relations Manager at BBVA Argentina

Private non-financial sector deposits in pesos totaled ARS 9.8 trillion, an increase of 7% quarter-over-quarter. This was explained by an increase in time deposits and in interest-bearing checking accounts. This effect was partially offset by a drop in investment accounts. Private non-financial sector deposits in foreign currency, expressed in pesos, increased by 16.6% quarter-over-quarter. This is mainly due to an increase in time deposits, mainly investments from mutual funds, followed by an 8.3% increase in savings accounts. As of the third quarter of 2025, capital ratio reached 16.7%. The drop was due to an increase by 7.4% in risk-weighted assets, which was higher than the 2.9% decrease in Common Equity Tier 1 capital, the latter affected by the fall in the valuation of public securities mentioned previously. This explains two-thirds of the quarterly decrease in the capital ratio.

Belén Fourcade
Investor Relations Manager at BBVA Argentina

Public sector exposure, excluding Central Bank, totaled ARS 3.6 trillion, implying a 16.4% exposure above the 15.88% recorded on the second quarter of 2025. The quarter-over-quarter increase is mainly due to a higher position in securities at amortized cost, related to the higher reserve requirements in the quarter. 97% of this increase corresponds to TAMAR bonds. For the quarter, the liquidity ratio reached 44.3%, lower than the 48.7% the prior quarter. In local currency, the ratio decreased 779 basis points to 37.6%, explained by the lower valuation of public securities, affecting the overall drop in the total currency liquidity. Liquidity in foreign currency increased 152 basis points to 57%.

Belén Fourcade
Investor Relations Manager at BBVA Argentina

In line with our commitment to generating value for our shareholders, the bank continued with the payment of dividends corresponding to a 2024 financial year income, having successfully completed the installment 3 to 6 as of the date of this report. In summary, despite the challenges of the environment, BBVA Argentina has demonstrated notable resilience and effective management during the third quarter of 2025. The positive growth in credit, delinquency levels below the system average, and the strength in liquidity and capital ratios are a testament to the quality of our risk management and prudent approach. We reiterate our firm commitment to continue driving activity, maintaining operational efficiency, and generating sustained value for our shareholders. This concludes our prepared remarks. We will now take your questions. Operator, please open the line for questions.

Operator

Thank you. We are now going to start the Q&A session for investors and analysts.

Operator

If you have a question, please click on "Raise Hand" for audio questions. You will then see a request to activate your microphone. Please activate it and pick up your headset to provide optimum sound quality when posing your question. Our first question comes from Brian Flores with Citi. You can open your microphone.

Brian Flores
Brian Flores
VP of Equity Research at Citi

Hi team, apologies here. I was having technical issues. I have two questions. The first one, kind of a mandatory one on the guidance. Just wanted to check if you are reiterating the real loan growth at 45%-50% year-over-year with deposits at 25% in real terms. I think the last time we discussed, the ROE range you provided was real ROE of 10%-15% and expectations of the tier 1 ratio between 16% and 16.5%.

Brian Flores
Brian Flores
VP of Equity Research at Citi

Just wanted to check if all of these items are maintained, given obviously a hectic third quarter. My second question is on basically loan growth. You showed market share gains, very strong loan growth. Just given the economic stagnation of the third quarter, how much of this growth would you consider genuine versus merely refinancing from existing clients that were struggling with liquidity? Just wanted to understand how we should think about loan growth going forward. Thank you.

Carmen Morillo Arroyo
CFO at BBVA Argentina

Hi, everyone. Okay, Brian, regarding your questions regarding guidance, we are okay with this 45%-50% in real terms loan growth. In terms of deposit, we see something more than what you said, so something similar to 30%-35% could be okay for us. ROE, we are thinking of high single digits. In terms of capital ratio, finishing the year near the 17%, around 17%.

Carmen Morillo Arroyo
CFO at BBVA Argentina

That would be the changes in, in fact, there is no change in our guidance. We are maintaining a similar view for the whole year. That is one issue. Regarding loans and what you asked about refinancing and if the growth is genuine or not, we believe the growth is fully genuine. You have to consider that part of the loan growth is related to US dollar loans. If you take a look to personal loans, you will see that we are very flat. We did not grow in that line. Of course, the situation in the retail side regarding personal loans and credit cards is delicate due to NPL growth. That is why we have been more prudent on the growth there. Our growth comes from, as I said, US dollar and very linked to companies, of course.

Brian Flores
Brian Flores
VP of Equity Research at Citi

Thank you, Carmen.

Brian Flores
Brian Flores
VP of Equity Research at Citi

I think the last time we spoke was maybe three weeks ago in one event we hosted. You mentioned the sustainable ROE of the bank is around mid-double digits at least. Just wanted to think if maybe 2026 is a transition year towards this level.

Carmen Morillo Arroyo
CFO at BBVA Argentina

Okay, I was talking about the end of 2025. Maybe I misunderstood your question. Related to 2026, yes, we maintain the mid to low, yeah, mid to low teens, I could say. 2026 will be better than this year, maybe not at a sustainable pace. The trend should go upwards. We can maintain this mid to, yeah, low to mid teens here.

Brian Flores
Brian Flores
VP of Equity Research at Citi

Thank you, Carmen and team.

Carmen Morillo Arroyo
CFO at BBVA Argentina

You're welcome.

Operator

Our next question comes from Tito Labarta with Goldman Sachs. You can open your microphone.

Tito Labarta
Tito Labarta
VP at Goldman Sachs

Hi, good morning, Carmen, Diego, Belén.

Tito Labarta
Tito Labarta
VP at Goldman Sachs

Thanks for the call and taking my question. Two questions also. Just any update on just the daily reserve requirements and what the government is thinking on maybe reducing that and just to allow for better liquidity and your ability to grow? How do you see that continuing to impact NIM maybe in 4Q and then maybe for 2026, just high-level thoughts on how the NIM can evolve? Second question, as you mentioned, the retail NPLs, right, have been rising, just given some of the short-term uncertainty. How are you thinking about asset quality from here? Do you think that reverses quickly? Do you think how long of a prolonged credit cycle would it be just to think about asset quality and then your ability to grow the retail loan book? Thank you.

Diego Cesarini
Head of Asset and Liability Management and Investor Relations at BBVA Argentina

Yes. Hi, Tito. This is Diego. Thanks for the question.

Diego Cesarini
Head of Asset and Liability Management and Investor Relations at BBVA Argentina

I will take the first one regarding reserve requirements. Central Bank has already made some changes. You know, the third quarter was very difficult because not only did they raise reserve requirements two or three times, but they also had us comply with it on a daily basis. That made us a little inefficient. They have already changed this from the 1st of December. Even if we have to comply with those requirements on a daily basis, we need to comply with just 75% of the total requirement that the Central Bank makes us comply with. This is a huge change for us. This will reduce this inefficiency to zero. Besides, they also reduced the percentage of requirements on our sight deposits. That has a direct impact on profitability because this is money that was allocated at zero rate at Central Bank.

Diego Cesarini
Head of Asset and Liability Management and Investor Relations at BBVA Argentina

Now, we can comply with that with bonds. This makes an important change for us and for banks in general. We expect Central Bank in the coming months, of course, to reduce the level of requirements. This monetary policy that has been very restrictive since May or June, we think that with time, they will relax this. Of course, that will provide us with more liquidity to fund growth we are expecting for next year.

Carmen Morillo Arroyo
CFO at BBVA Argentina

Okay. I'll take the question related to NPLs and what we see. NPLs, as you know, we have ended September with 3.28%. The system was above that, near 4%. We are doing better than the system. The environment has been very complex in this quarter with inflation going down in a very quick way and interest rates still very high in real terms.

Carmen Morillo Arroyo
CFO at BBVA Argentina

This is affected, of course. What we see is that we will see a fourth quarter, which will be also complicated in that sense. Maybe we see something higher. MPLs higher than this quarter, not pretty much. Then 2026 needs to be a much better year. In terms of MPL and in cost of risk, something similar. We see cost of risk that has been 6.63% by the, so these nine months. We see something higher, but not really dramatic. By the end of 2025 and then a decrease in 2026.

Tito Labarta
Tito Labarta
VP at Goldman Sachs

Great. That's helpful. Thank you, Carmen and Diego. Just one follow-up on, as the reserve requirements get relaxed, I mean, rates, I think, have come down from the peak as well. How do you see the evolution of NIM, right? Because we saw some NIM pressure in the quarter.

Tito Labarta
Tito Labarta
VP at Goldman Sachs

Do you think that already begins to reverse in 4Q? Just to think about the net interest margin evolution from here. Thank you.

Diego Cesarini
Head of Asset and Liability Management and Investor Relations at BBVA Argentina

Okay. You know, NIMs, when you take out the third quarter, which is very special, of course, NIMs had been really stable through the year. I think that that will be the main conclusion. Third quarter, of course, was special because rates went from 30% to almost 70% on a given day. Having liabilities from one day to 40-50 days, that really impacts much quicker than our asset repricing, which, by the way, our assets are also short-term in general terms. Just as an example, 60% of our bond portfolio was adjusted by interest rate. It reflected this rise almost immediately and in a way that helped us with the NIM through this quarter. We did not fall as much as many competitors.

Diego Cesarini
Head of Asset and Liability Management and Investor Relations at BBVA Argentina

For fourth quarter, of course, the opposite trend, we should expect that. We should see higher NIMs. And for next year, we are not really thinking that NIMs should go down that quickly. With this demand of loan that is, of course, will remain high, we hope it will remain high. And liquidity, which is not as much, it's not scarce, but it's not that high. We think that banks and us especially have a pricing power with our customers. So we are not expecting NIMs next year to fall that much.

Tito Labarta
Tito Labarta
VP at Goldman Sachs

Great. That's helpful. Thank you very much, Diego.

Diego Cesarini
Head of Asset and Liability Management and Investor Relations at BBVA Argentina

You're welcome.

Tito Labarta
Tito Labarta
VP at Goldman Sachs

Our next question comes from Carlos Gomez-Lopez with HSBC. You can open your microphone.

Carlos Gomez-Lopez
Carlos Gomez-Lopez
Head of LatAm Financial Institutions at HSBC

Thank you. Thank you for taking the call. Two questions. One, as you mentioned, the asset quality is still going to deteriorate into the fourth quarter.

Carlos Gomez-Lopez
Carlos Gomez-Lopez
Head of LatAm Financial Institutions at HSBC

Essentially, my question is the damage from the high interest rates. When do you think that will be gone? We will see it through. Have you seen already demand started to come or it's still too early? Second, what is the optimal level of capital that you want to achieve now that you have come down all the way from 33% to, I believe, 16.7% now? Where would you like to stabilize the capital level? Thank you.

Carmen Morillo Arroyo
CFO at BBVA Argentina

Thank you, Carlos. Related to the demand on credits, what we see is that the retail side is going to come back slowly, maybe. We need to see how long does it take to go through these NPL high ratios. Maybe in the retail side, we will see, yeah, a slow move.

Carmen Morillo Arroyo
CFO at BBVA Argentina

In commercial, what we see is that US dollar needs to, when we are already having high demand on US dollar credits for companies and also pesos. What we see is a different, we have a different view between retail and commercial. We believe this 45%-50% loans growth will come through companies and mostly dollar-based. That's the first question.

Diego Cesarini
Head of Asset and Liability Management and Investor Relations at BBVA Argentina

Hi, Carlos. This is Diego. Regarding capital level and where we feel comfortable, as Carmen said before, we are thinking that 2025 will finish with a ratio of around 17%, probably a little higher. For the coming years, first of all, we have a management level, which is the minimum level that we feel comfortable, that is around, it's a little below 13%.

Diego Cesarini
Head of Asset and Liability Management and Investor Relations at BBVA Argentina

Having said that, when we forecast for the four, five next years, and on every year, we are forecasting that Argentina financial system will grow in real terms and that BBVA will keep growing in market share. Considering all that, we are not forecasting that we will reach that level of 13% or 12.75%. We have some possibilities, of course, of issuing at any given moment subordinated debt. We do not have at this moment a tier two instrument in our books. We really are not seeing concerns regarding capital for the coming years.

Carlos Gomez-Lopez
Carlos Gomez-Lopez
Head of LatAm Financial Institutions at HSBC

Thank you. This is a bit technical, but actually, when I was looking at risk with the assets, there seems to have been something changing in the formula from second quarter to third quarter. Your capital consumption seemed to be much higher than what the loan growth seems to justify.

Carlos Gomez-Lopez
Carlos Gomez-Lopez
Head of LatAm Financial Institutions at HSBC

Was there a regulatory change that we overlooked?

Diego Cesarini
Head of Asset and Liability Management and Investor Relations at BBVA Argentina

No, no. If you are mentioning our decrease in the third quarter, it's mainly because the valuation of our public sector debt, it weighs a lot because at the end of the third quarter was the worst moment for Argentinian assets. Bonds were at their worst moment. Next month, in October, our capital ratio will be much higher than in the third quarter.

Carlos Gomez-Lopez
Carlos Gomez-Lopez
Head of LatAm Financial Institutions at HSBC

Okay. This was temporary in October. It should go back up. Going back to the loan demand that we mentioned before, we have the high NPL that have to be absorbed, digested. The problem right now is lack of demand in terms of customers or lack of willingness on the part of banks to lend until that NPL situation is solved?

Carmen Morillo Arroyo
CFO at BBVA Argentina

I would say it's both. Yeah, yeah. In retail, of course, yeah.

Carmen Morillo Arroyo
CFO at BBVA Argentina

As I mentioned, commercial is another story and we're okay with that. In retail, I guess it's both. These high interest rates are doing part of the situation, but yeah, it's lack of demand and also more restrictive lending policies. Yeah, both.

Carlos Gomez-Lopez
Carlos Gomez-Lopez
Head of LatAm Financial Institutions at HSBC

Both. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Pedro Offenhenden with Latin Securities.

Pedro Offenhenden
Research Analyst at Latin Securities

Hi everyone. Thank you for the call. I wanted to ask what risk or pressure points do you identify in this new credit expansion after the electoral result and for 2026? If there are any specific segments where you anticipate greater sensitivity, maybe.

Carmen Morillo Arroyo
CFO at BBVA Argentina

Sorry, Pedro. I'm not sure if I got your question right. Can you please repeat?

Pedro Offenhenden
Research Analyst at Latin Securities

Yes. Now, looking at credit growth for 2026, what risk or pressures do you see if NPLs, liquidity, or what are you looking at for credit growth?

Carmen Morillo Arroyo
CFO at BBVA Argentina

No, we don't see an issue related to capital or liquidity. That for sure. Of course, as I mentioned before, we need to be cautious on the retail side in NPLs, looking at the, so we need to see where it ends, these high NPLs. What we think is that we will see the worst part by the end of this year, maybe beginning of the next year. From then on, it should go back to more normal levels. That is it in the retail side. In the commercial side, we don't see anything. There is demand.

Carmen Morillo Arroyo
CFO at BBVA Argentina

We believe with the reforms and if everything goes in the direction that the government is announcing, what we believe is that there will be more willingness from the companies to go long, to make investments, and we will have the opportunity to fund those in pesos and in dollars. No restrictions in terms of capital and liquidity. I would say it's the most important message to give.

Pedro Offenhenden
Research Analyst at Latin Securities

Okay. Thank you, Carmen.

Carmen Morillo Arroyo
CFO at BBVA Argentina

You're welcome.

Operator

Next question from Mateus Rafaeli with Itaú BBA.

Mateus Raffaelli
Equity Research Associate at Itaú BBA

Hi everyone. Thanks for taking the question. I'd like to ask about cover ratios and cost of risk because we've been seeing coverage trending downward, covering 99% as NPLs continue to rise in the short-term outlook, at least for continued increase in NPLs. The bank is still growing significantly portfolios.

Mateus Raffaelli
Equity Research Associate at Itaú BBA

How should we think about coverage ratio levels in this particular scenario of high growth and high NPLs? I know coverage is an output of the models, but it would be nice to hear if maybe this is the core level for coverage ratios and it should improve. Or maybe you're still comfortable at these levels considering the portfolio growth mix, more commercial, less retail. Also, if you could give us an outlook for retail and NPLs, maybe if it stabilizes going into the second half of next year or maybe already in that. Thank you.

Carmen Morillo Arroyo
CFO at BBVA Argentina

Okay, Mateus, thank you for your question. First of all, maybe it's good to notice that coverage ratio were really, really high because of the lack of NPLs in the past years. We were at a very good level of this ratio.

Carmen Morillo Arroyo
CFO at BBVA Argentina

Of course, in a more complex environment, it's normal that you see a reduced coverage ratio. These levels, we are comfortable in these 98%-100% levels for 2025. We believe we are not going to decrease much more for this year. In 2026, we are already projecting higher levels. It should be the minimum levels we are forecasting to see.

Mateus Raffaelli
Equity Research Associate at Itaú BBA

Thank you.

Carmen Morillo Arroyo
CFO at BBVA Argentina

You're welcome.

Operator

The Q&A session is now concluded. I would like to turn the floor back to BBVA's team for closing remarks.

Belén Fourcade
Investor Relations Manager at BBVA Argentina

Thank you all for joining the call. If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Have a good day and goodbye.

Operator

This concludes today's presentation. You may disconnect and have a nice day.

Analysts
    • Belén Fourcade
      Investor Relations Manager at BBVA Argentina
    • Diego Cesarini
      Head of Asset and Liability Management and Investor Relations at BBVA Argentina
    • Mateus Raffaelli
      Equity Research Associate at Itaú BBA
    • Carmen Morillo Arroyo
      CFO at BBVA Argentina
    • Tito Labarta
      VP at Goldman Sachs
    • Brian Flores
      VP of Equity Research at Citi
    • Carlos Gomez-Lopez
      Head of LatAm Financial Institutions at HSBC
    • Pedro Offenhenden
      Research Analyst at Latin Securities
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