Smiths Group H1 2025 Earnings Report

Smiths Group EPS Results

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Smiths Group Announcement Details

• Quarter: H1 2025
• Date: 3/25/2025
• Time: Before Market Opens
• Conference Call Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2025
• Conference Call Time: 4:00AM ET

Smiths Group (LON:SMIN) operates as an industrial engineering company in Americas, Europe, the Asia Pacific, and internationally. It operates through four businesses: John Crane, Smiths Detection, Flex-Tek, and Smiths Interconnect. The John Crane business engineers mechanical seals, seal support systems, power transmission couplings, and specialized filtration systems. The Smiths Detection business provides sensors and systems that detect and identify explosives, narcotics, weapons, chemical agents, biohazards, and contraband. The Flex-Tek business manufactures engineered components, flexible hosing, and rigid tubing that heat and move fluids and gases. The Smiths Interconnect business provides specialized electronic and radio frequency board-level and waveguide devices, connectors, cables, test sockets, and sub-systems used in secure connectivity applications. The company serves general industrial, safety and security, energy, and aerospace markets. Smiths Group plc was founded in 1851 and is headquartered in London, the United Kingdom.

Smiths Group H1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

• Smiths will focus on its high-performance John Crane and FlexTech divisions, with plans to sell Smith’s Interconnect and separate Smiths Detection via a demerger or sale, while increasing its share buyback to £500 m and returning disposal proceeds to shareholders.
• The group delivered a strong H1 with 9.1% organic revenue growth, 50 bps margin expansion to 16.7%, 14% EPS growth, 94% cash conversion, and a 5% interim dividend increase, reaffirming FY25 guidance.
• A January cybersecurity incident weighed on performance, particularly at John Crane, shaving about 1–2 ppt off H1 growth, though recovery is underway and H2 is expected to be stronger.
• FlexTech has bolstered growth through bolt-on acquisitions—deploying £270 m at a 7x EBITDA multiple in the past year—compounding growth to 13.2% and adding 320 bps of margin.
• Future Smiths sets enhanced medium-term targets of 5–7% organic revenue growth, >10% EPS growth, 21–23% operating margin, >20% ROCE, and ~100% cash conversion, underpinned by operational excellence and megatrend exposure.

Presentation

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Good morning everyone and thank you for joining us today. I'll start by providing a few opening remarks before handing over to Julian to walk us through the first half numbers. I'll then come back to you to provide an update on the strategy and we'll have plenty of time at the end for questions. As I said in January, since becoming CEO this time last year, the board and I have been evaluating the options to maximize shareholder value. Despite making substantial progress with improved performance, the group still trades at a discount to our expected valuation. To address this, we will focus on our high performance technologies for efficient flow and heat management through John Crane and Flex-Tek and separate Smiths Interconnect via a sale, followed by Smiths Detection by either a U.K. demerger or sale.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

In parallel, we have increased our share buyback program to GBP 500 million and will return a large portion of disposal proceeds to shareholders. As we execute this strategy, we will become a more focused business with a higher quality financial profile that has ample potential for growth and very significant value creation. We have made good progress since January and I'll provide more detail later. Turning to first half performance, we delivered a strong set of financial results with growth across all key metrics. We enhanced returns to shareholders, invested in attractive bolt-on acquisitions and maintained our focus on safety. Given this performance, I'm pleased to reaffirm our fiscal year 2025 guidance which we have raised twice since last September. Before handing over to Julian, I want.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

To say a few words by way.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Of introduction since this is his first set of results. Julian has been at Smiths for more than 12 years. His financial and strategic roles are alongside his experience at Flex-Tek and Smiths Interconnect. Equip him well to be CFO to drive forward the strategic actions whilst maintaining financial control and discipline of the business. I'm incredibly pleased and fortunate to have him working alongside me to create and deliver value. With that, I'll hand over to him to talk through the numbers.

[Julian Fagge, CFO at Smiths Group]

Thank you Roland and good morning everyone. I'm happy to be presenting my first set of results and I'm pleased with the progress we've made in the first six months of fiscal year 2025, delivering another strong financial performance. Organic revenue growth was 9.1% including acquisitions. This increased to 10.2% with reported revenue growth of 6.7% reflecting the impact of adverse foreign exchange. We grew operating profit 12.6% on an organic basis and 9.5% on a reported basis, resulting in margin expansion of 40 basis points to 16.7% or 50 basis points on an organic basis. This is consistent with our full year guidance. This strong operating profit performance translated to a 14% EPS growth enhanced by lower tax and interest charges and the benefit of the share buyback program.

[Julian Fagge, CFO at Smiths Group]

Cash conversion was good at 94% and return on capital employed reached a high of 17.1% as we made efficient use of our capital. Reflecting all of this we are again increasing our dividend by 5% to GBP 0.1423 which is supplemented by the GBP 500 million share buyback program. These positive results were delivered despite the cyber security event in January and I'm pleased to report that all critical systems are now up and running with the only financial impact on results relating to John Crane which I'll cover later. Turning to the results in more detail and starting with organic revenue growth, as you can see here we're delivering consistent top line growth within or ahead of our current medium term target of 4% to 6%.

[Julian Fagge, CFO at Smiths Group]

Strong revenue growth translated into even stronger operating profit growth with a 40 basis point reported margin expansion to 16.7%. On an organic basis, margin expanded 50 basis points driven by higher volume, particularly in Smiths Interconnect and Smiths Detection, and continued price discipline more than offsetting inflation. We delivered a net expansion of 30 basis points from efficiency savings, including the benefits delivered through the Smiths Excellence System, and whilst continuing to invest in growth. Offsetting these increases, we had a 60 basis point contraction from mix. This covers both business mix, with our higher growth coming from our lower margin businesses, and product mix, mostly within John Crane and Flex-Tek. Strong operating growth translated to an even stronger EPS growth of 14%. The impact of organic profit growth, lower tax and interest, accretive acquisitions, and the share buyback together delivered 19.3% constant currency EPS growth.

[Julian Fagge, CFO at Smiths Group]

We have provided full year guidance on tax, interest and FX in the appendix. On operating cash, we generated GBP 254 million, a 94% conversion, up from 89% this time last year. This reflects ongoing disciplined working capital management whilst continuing to invest in the business. Full year CapEx is now expected to be around GBP 100 million, down from the prior guidance of GBP 110 million given timing changes, and higher versus last year largely due to the investment program in automation and capacity in John Crane. Finally, operating cash performance translated to GBP 143 million of free cash flow, up nearly 30% on last year. Turning now to the businesses, I'll talk first through John Crane and Flex-Tek, the businesses we will retain, and then I'll cover Smiths Detection and Smiths Interconnect, the businesses we will separate to unlock value.

[Julian Fagge, CFO at Smiths Group]

John Crane delivered 3.8% organic revenue growth against a strong prior year comparator when we grew 12.7%. Performance was constrained by the cyber incident where recovery took longer due to the number of systems involved. Growth was led by strong original equipment sales, particularly in energy, which although having a lower margin in the short term secures a long term higher margin aftermarket revenue stream. Operating profit grew 3.9% with a 10 basis point organic margin expansion to 22.9%. This margin reflects disciplined pricing and efficiency benefits whilst continuing to invest for future growth, offset by the negative impact of the lower margin OE sales. We had significant wins in the first half in energy, including a third asset management contract in Saudi Arabia and a partnership to supply seals to a groundbreaking supercritical CO2 project.

[Julian Fagge, CFO at Smiths Group]

We expect strong demand across the full energy spectrum to continue over the medium term as customers focus on driving efficiency and emissions reduction. Looking ahead, we expect the second half growth to improve on the first half supported by a robust order book and market demand. However, the cyber incident disrupted orders in January which continued into quarter three, moderating our growth expectations for the full year. Now turning to Flex-Tek, revenue increased 2.5% organically with acquisitions adding a further 4.4% to growth. Flex-Tek's industrial segment grew 2% with growth of HVAC products continuing despite a subdued construction market. Aerospace grew 4.8% as we executed on the strong order book driven by new aircraft builds. Operating margin was 19.8%, down versus a strong comparator in fiscal year 2024.

[Julian Fagge, CFO at Smiths Group]

The margin performance reflects positive pricing and the benefit of efficiency savings offset by product mix, with the prior year benefiting from high margin industrial heating contracts. Looking forward, the timing and shape of the U.S. housing market recovery will be a key driver for Flex-Tek into the second half on a rolling three month basis. U.S. new housing permits declined 3.1%, new housing starts were down 2.7%, and builders confidence remains negative. However, the market outlook continues to be supported by a shortage of housing stock and we're well positioned to take advantage of the recovery. For aerospace, we expect sales to remain strong, underpinned by a healthy order book. Our strategy to create value in Flex-Tek with accretive acquisitions has continued during the half. In September we announced the acquisitions of Modular Metal Fabricators and Wattco.

[Julian Fagge, CFO at Smiths Group]

Today we announced the acquisition of Dock Park Corporation, a metal duct manufacturer based in Massachusetts for GBP 32 million at an attractive multiple of 7.2 times EBITDA. This acquisition is another step in building a nationwide integrated offer of metal duct products in the HVAC segment, expanding coverage into the Northeast through an established brand and a well-run business. Since the acquisition of Royal Metals we have deployed a total of GBP 270 million of acquisition capital into Flex-Tek at a combined multiple of seven times, which together with a strong organic performance has compounded growth to 13.2% over this period and added 320 basis points of margin over the last four years. Now turning to Smiths Detection, revenue increased 15.3% organically, reflecting significant growth in aviation partly offset by a decline in other security systems.

[Julian Fagge, CFO at Smiths Group]

Aviation growth of 28.7% was driven by the ongoing global rollout of Checkpoint CT scanners. We've now sold more than 1,600 of our CTIX products and continue to secure a good win rate of more than 50% of the units contracted to date. The program is about halfway through with another two to three years to run. Other security systems revenue declined 11.3% against a high prior year comparator and reflected the phasing of certain contracts. Detection's operating profit increased 23.2% and operating margin by 70 basis points on an organic basis reflecting the strong volume growth along with improved pricing and efficiency savings. Our strong order book supports a continued positive outlook into the second half beyond. In September we showcased our new X-ray diffraction products which will support future whole baggage upgrade programs. It is currently undergoing certification in Europe.

[Julian Fagge, CFO at Smiths Group]

Smiths Detection is also advancing its IC more software offer and was the first to receive approval from the Netherlands for its AI driven detection system, an important addition to support growth in our higher margin aftermarket. Finally, Smiths Interconnect organic revenue growth was very strong at 26.8% with growth across all business units. Aerospace and Defence revenue grew 15.9% driven by the strength of innovation in our fiber optic, radio frequency and connector products. Growth in industrial markets was driven by an outstanding performance in our semiconductor test business. This reflected a high program win rate particularly in high speed GPUs and AI related programs. Our technology leadership was externally recognized with a number of industry awards for our DaVinci 112 semi test product.

[Julian Fagge, CFO at Smiths Group]

The notably higher volumes as well as pricing mix and significant benefits from efficiency programs drove an 80% organic increase in operating profit and this translated into a 510 basis point expansion in operating margin. Looking ahead to the second half we expect growth to continue albeit at a more moderate rate. Turning now to our capital allocation framework as we have previously communicated we deploy capital to fuel organic growth, fund strategic and disciplined bolt-on acquisitions and return excess capital to shareholders, all of which we've demonstrated in the first half organically. We increased CapEx and invested in R&D and engineering to ensure sustainable future growth across all our businesses. We invested GBP 97 million in acquisitions in Flex-Tek at attractive multiples and accretive margin and we have enhanced our returns to shareholders, having increased the share buyback program and raised the dividend.

[Julian Fagge, CFO at Smiths Group]

As of today I'm pleased to say we've completed the initial GBP 150 million of the GBP 500 million share buyback program and we are on track to complete the remaining GBP 350 million by the end of this calendar year. In addition, we are committed to returning a large portion of disposal proceeds. In summary, our balance sheet remains strong, giving us flexibility for fiscal year 2025 and beyond to fund organic investment, undertake bolt-on M&A, and return capital to shareholders via dividend and buyback, all while maintaining our investment grade rating. Finally, a few words about our outlook for the rest of fiscal year 2025. We are reaffirming our twice increased guidance of 6% to 8% organic revenue growth supported by good order book visibility and continued strong demand in our end markets, albeit with some uncertainty over the U.S. construction market.

[Julian Fagge, CFO at Smiths Group]

We are also reaffirming our expectation of a 40-60 basis point expansion in operating margin driven by operational leverage and continued benefits from the Smiths Excellence System and other efficiency programs. This guidance reflects the current position of announced U.S. tariffs and we continue to carefully monitor how the landscape evolves. Our largely local for local approach limits the impact as we typically source where we manufacture and manufacture where we sell. We expect cash conversion for the full year to be in the low 90% range. In conclusion, we've delivered a strong first half financial performance. We have positive momentum towards meeting the full year guidance and we are focused on executing our strategy. With that let me hand back to Roland.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Thank you Julian. Let's turn to the strategic update. We have used the terminology Future Smiths to describe Smiths as it will be in its future state. Firstly, I'll cover Future Smiths then move on to the new medium term targets which are supported by the acceleration plan and new business opportunities. I'll finish with an update on the separation processes. Future Smiths will focus on our John Crane and Flex-Tek businesses. 54% of the business is exposed to the general industrial market of which around half is construction, 38% to energy and the remaining 8% to aerospace. Combined, these businesses generated GBP 1.9 billion in revenue in fiscal year 2024 with a pro forma operating profit margin of 19.5%. The purpose of Smiths Engineering a Better Future continues. Future Smiths is a specialist engineering business focused on high performance technologies for efficient flow and heat management.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Our exposure to the three key markets of general industrial, energy and aerospace all present attractive growth opportunities over the near and longer term. Underpinned by important megatrends, Future Smiths has long standing valued customer relationships with the reliability and quality of our products proved through many years of serving our customers. We work in partnership with them to design products and solutions that address some of their most critical problems. We operate in a coherent business model with an embedded approach to operational excellence, the Smiths Excellence System with the benefit of a simplified structure. In the future we will maximize the opportunity to streamline the cost base and upweight the role of our shared business support services. Further, Future Smiths will deliver sustainable growth through a combination of strong market positions, long standing customer relationships and engineering domain expertise.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

This growth will drive high returns and good cash generation with low capital intensity. The two businesses have complementary business models, industry characteristics and value creation opportunities. Their end markets benefit from very supportive growth trends with increased demand for energy efficiency and emission reduction a common theme for both. John Crane derives a substantial proportion of its revenue from aftermarket which is captive for the life of the seal. Flex-Tek also has a significant recurring revenue stream with more than 90% repeat business supported by its well established OEM and distributor relationships as well as its reputation for innovation and product performance. Both businesses have expansion opportunities geographically as well as into attractive product and service adjacencies. All of these attributes support the significant potential for further growth and value creation as is evident here.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Future Smiths has a higher quality financial profile with a strong track record of organic growth, high margins and returns in excess of our current medium term targets and good cash conversion.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Off the back of this strong financial.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Profile coupled with further opportunities for growth and improved profitability, we have issued new enhanced medium term targets for Future Smiths. We have upgraded our organic revenue growth expectations to 5% to 7%, increased EPS growth to greater than 10% and raised operating profit margin to 21% to 23%. All this will be achieved whilst maintaining disciplined capital management. With our return on capital employed target increasing to greater than 20% and maintaining operating cash generation of around 100%. We believe these ambitious yet achievable targets support a premium rating for Future Smiths. Here we demonstrate the clear roadmap to delivering enhanced organic growth and further improving profitability. Supporting these medium term targets, the value creation opportunities for John Crane and Flex-Tek are shown as well as highlighting the opportunities for cross business collaboration in products, markets and customers to augment future growth.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

We also see significant organizational and process opportunities, for example through shared support services, to deliver a streamlined cost structure within and across the businesses. Turning to our acceleration plan, where we have made good progress, as you will recall from September, the plan is about value creation, not just transformation, and each business has a specific set of actions. These initiatives will deliver end-to-end process improvement for resilience and scalability over the longer term, as well as specific cost reduction and footprint rationalization actions. The plan also includes the rightsizing of group central costs in line with the portfolio changes. We continue to refine the focus and the timing of the program and now expect to deliver GBP 40 million to GBP 45 million in annualized benefits for the GBP 60 million to GBP 65 million cost.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Previously communicated costs will now be GBP 20 million to GBP 25 million this fiscal year with the remainder in fiscal year 2026. Around two thirds of both the costs and the benefits relate to Future Smiths. This includes the reduction in central costs which following the completion of the separation processes will be 1.5% to 1.7% of revenue, continuing to be at a more efficient rate than the median of our U.K. industrial peers. The acceleration plan is just one lever to drive margin towards our 21% to 23% target, supported also by operating leverage and ongoing efficiency savings through SES whilst continuing to invest in growth. Since the announcements in January we have commenced the separation processes. Advisors have been appointed and we remain committed to the timetable of an announcement for Smiths Interconnect before the end of this calendar year, with Smiths Detection to follow.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Both board and Executive committees have been established to oversee separations, ensuring governance and delivery at pace with accountability. We are conscious that the proposed changes are unsettling for our people and are committed to treating all our stakeholders respectfully as we go through this transition period and we are committed to separating responsibly with a focus on maximum value creation. As Julian set out earlier, we have seen strong performance this half from both Smiths Interconnect and Smiths Detection positioning well for the second half and beyond. Having run these businesses prior to our current roles, both Julian and I know them well. They share many of the key strengths with John Crane and leading technologies, strong positions in attractive markets and customer intimacy.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

For example, Smiths Interconnect partners with customers to meet some of the most demanding specifications with strong capabilities in specialist applications such as optical transceivers for use in aerospace and defense or semiconductor test sockets for AI chips. Smiths Detection is clearly a leader in threat detection with a global service reach. However, their financial profile in regard to margin and returns is different from that of John Crane and Flex-Tek. They both have inherent opportunities to create additional value through product development and expansion as well as efficiency improvements. We believe that these will be best delivered under different ownership and now is the right time for separation from a position of strength. In summary, all businesses contributed to the strong 9.1% organic revenue growth in the half. We are reaffirming our 6% to 8% guidance for the full year.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

John Crane and Flex-Tek have a strong track record of delivery and through cycle growth and we are well positioned in attractive markets to achieve enhanced organic revenue growth. We increased the operating profit margin to 16.7% and are reaffirming full year guidance of 40-60 basis points expansion. We will continue to execute our acceleration plan to support further margin expansion beyond this year and we are committed to being ambitious as we embark on rightsizing our central costs. We continue to invest in R&D and through M&A further to expand our reach in Flex-Tek. We increased the interim dividend by 5% and have completed the first GBP 150 million of our share buyback program with the remaining GBP 350.50 million to be completed by the end of this calendar year. We are committed to returning future disposal proceeds. Our strategic actions are underway.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

We believe now is the right time.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

To optimize the portfolio and focus on.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

John Crane and Flex-Tek. We have initiated the process to separate Smiths Interconnect and Smiths Detection. We firmly believe these strategic actions will unlock significant value and enhance returns to shareholders. I would like to acknowledge our employees and thank them for contributing to the strong financial performance in the half and for their continued hard work despite the backdrop of a cyber incident and the recent news flow. Your commitment is very much appreciated and not taken for granted. Now let's go to questions.

[Operator]

Thank you. To ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone keypad and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. We will now take our first question. Please stand by. The first question comes from the line of Lushanthan Mahendrarajah from JPMorgan. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

[Lushanthan Mahendrarajah, Analyst at JPMorgan]

Morning. Morning.

[Lushanthan Mahendrarajah, Analyst at JPMorgan]

I hope you can you hear me? I've got two or three questions if that's okay, firstly on John Crane, I.

[Lushanthan Mahendrarajah, Analyst at JPMorgan]

mean, is it possible to sort of.

[Lushanthan Mahendrarajah, Analyst at JPMorgan]

Quantify the impact of the cyber incident in the first half and it looks like it impacted aftermarket more than just sort of trying to understand the rationale there and I guess how we think about that or catch up in the coming quarters. The second question is on just detection, just I guess any further thoughts or sort of pros and cons that you're thinking in terms of demerger or sale? The thirdly on margin 60 basis point headwind for mix in the first half, how should we think about mix in the second half? Is lesser headwind just given some of those moving parts.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Thank you, thank you very much for the questions. Lushanthan and I will take the first two and then I will hand over on the margin question about the mix to Julian.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

So.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Yes, we had the cybersecurity event. All our critical systems are now back up and running. Was there an impact? Yes, there was. Was there an impact on John Crane? To a great extent, yes. How would we quantify that overall for the whole group? That's sort of 1-2 percentage points of growth that we saw there. We are seeing that John Crane is recovering, that we see that H2 will therefore be stronger than H1 going forward. We're pleased about that. It is a very vertically integrated organization, so it will take time to recover. Aftermarket is the quick term part of that business. The aftermarket business average batch size in this business is less than two. We have a finite amount of machine machining. We are in a good position post the cyber. We need to improve that.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

We have a firm grip on the operational aspects of that. H2 will come in stronger than H1, but it will take time for that recovery. Going on to the demerger and sale of Detection. As we announced at the end of January, the Smiths Interconnect sale would.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Be announced.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

We're aiming to announce that for the end of the calendar year. Detection, we announced that we're in the process. It will happen post that. That will be either a demerger or sell. We're open to both. We're all about value creation. That's the good news here for everybody. We will take the best route through to create value on that. Both those processes are going, excuse me, as we planned at the moment. That's positive news for that. We've got advisors, we set up the governance, and we're executing against that plan on the margins. Julian will speak about the positive impact around that.

[Julian Fagge, CFO at Smiths Group]

Absolutely. We saw good margin improvement in the first half, as you say. We saw the 50 basis point improvement, which was in line with our guidance. We did see that negative mix effect coming through, which is largely divisional mix with Detection growing strongly relative to the total growth. We do expect that that mix effect will slightly dissipate in the second half. We reaffirm our guidance for the full year of 40-60 basis points of improvement.

[Lushanthan Mahendrarajah, Analyst at JPMorgan]

Okay, thank you.

[Operator]

Thank you. We will now go to our next question. Please stand by. The next question comes from the line of Christian Hinderaker from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

[Christian Hinderaker, Executive Director at Goldman Sachs]

Morning, Roland. Morning, Julian. Thanks for the opportunity. I want to start with the new growth assumptions, if I may. I think backing out your market growth numbers on slide 25, I'm getting to 4% midpoint growth number when weighting those. How do we think then about the building blocks for the 5% to 7% range? Is there a bit of a skew there at all to either segment? Also, in terms of the 21% to 23% margin, how do we think about the progression given Crane is obviously at the upper level there. Is there scope for margin improvement across both businesses or is this a Flex-Tek story?

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Okay, thank you for that. Let me take the margin question first. I think that's the exciting part of this story. That 21% to 23% margin target. We see that there's enormous value creation in both those businesses. This isn't skewed towards one particular business. We see expansion across both those businesses, whether that's with pricing, whether that's with efficiency, whether that's with mix as we move into new markets, and specifically with innovation, as we drive both those businesses forward from innovation. The great thing about Future Smiths is the fact we can focus on those businesses and move those forward from a technical point of view, from a commercial point of view, and obviously from driving forward with the Smiths Excellence System on the effectiveness point of view.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

I think that all gives us a lot of confidence that even though these are ambitious targets, they really are targets that we can meet on the margins. There is plenty of value to be driven through that on the growth assumptions. We feel that we have a track record of growing at those levels and we've obviously spent a lot of time looking into the past, but that's the past, the future. We are confident if you break it down into those parts about where we've got those businesses facing, whether that's the broad energy, megatrend and need for energy, whether that's legacy or traditional energy, or whether that's future energy, these businesses are very well set up to deliver that when you have through oil and gas, through electrification. There are some major mega trends there.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

We've also seen the aerospace business in Flex-Tek grow very well. We've also seen that we are market leaders in that and therefore we feel confident that through the right commercial approaches we can continue to gain market share within that. You can see the exceptional work that we've had in Flex-Tek. For example, we grew in the first half in U.S. housing in spite of the market. Once that market becomes a tailwind and it's going to take over a decade for the U.S. to catch up on the housing shortage, we are very well positioned. We're not only doing that organically, but we're also doing that inorganically with the acquisition of Dock Park, which we're very pleased to welcome to the family and those employees.

[Christian Hinderaker, Executive Director at Goldman Sachs]

Thank you. That brings me on to question two on Flex-Tek. And I think you said 2% growth in industrial for the half ahead of the housing market. Just how do we think about your comments on the outlook here? Are they suggesting a flat negative market and an outperformance at the division level? I appreciate there's some uncertainty, but just want to sort of scale the thinking around the Flex-Tek guide into year end and beyond.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Yes. No, thank you. I mean the plan. We spent a lot of time making sure that this plan is the correct plan. We've seen growth in U.S. construction, but the real stories behind the Flex-Tek is the industrial part of the business. We are very confident against the comparator, but also very confident in the business around industrial heat for the second half. Julian was talking about the fact that margin headwind would not be there to the extent that we saw for the group. Part of that story is the Flex-Tek industrial heat part of the business. We have that robust order book in Flex-Tek Aerospace. The important thing here to remember is we are confident in our numbers around Flex-Tek.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

We will see growth in H2, we'll see more growth in H2, we believe, than what we saw in H1 driven by those factors. If U.S. housing comes back, that's just an additional benefit, but we have a modest outlook for that within how we've lined our numbers up on that.

[Christian Hinderaker, Executive Director at Goldman Sachs]

Thank you.

[Christian Hinderaker, Executive Director at Goldman Sachs]

Are you able to clarify the SES contribution to profitability in the bridge for the half?

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

We're not going to report out separately on ICS because we see it as a much broader aspect about VAV, about procurement savings, about pricing. However, we do continue just in the same way we look, we look at leading and lagging metrics which we don't disclose publicly. SES continues to be a very significant contributor and a more significant contributor this year than it was last year. We still have that visibility. It's just we felt it was clearer to bring it all together within the margin bridge. Still a positive story there around SES especially now we've got it aligned with the efficiency that sits around sustainability, for example. Pleased that that is still a key driver but only one of many levers we have to increase growth and profitability.

[Christian Hinderaker, Executive Director at Goldman Sachs]

Thank you.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Thank you very much.

[Operator]

Thank you. We will now go to our next question. Please stand by. The next question comes from the line of Martin Wilkie from Citi. Please go ahead. Is now open.

[Martin Wilkie, Research Analyst at Citi]

Yeah, thank you. Good morning, it's Martin from Citi. Just a couple of questions on Interconnect and it's, you know, good news that it sound. We're going to get announcement there by the end of this year. In terms of how you're thinking about that exit, when we look about to multiples in defense, for example, they've obviously gone up a lot in the last few months. Can you remind us how much of that division is exposed to defense? I saw that you have reclassified some revenue inside Interconnect between the different subdivisions with a larger chunk now in aerospace and defense just to get an update.

[Martin Wilkie, Research Analyst at Citi]

Of how much of Interconnect is within defense now. Thank you.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Yes. The guide for defense around Interconnect is about, you know, just over half. Half the business is very much defense focused. Yeah, that's where it sits. Obviously we are seeing tailwinds within that part of the business. Significant tailwinds within that part of the business. As we said right at the beginning, we wanted to do, and part of our mantra around when we wanted to take these strategic actions was we wanted to do this from a position of strength. It does appear that we've chosen a good time to do that through our own internal actions, but also from the external environment as well. You're correct.

[Martin Wilkie, Research Analyst at Citi]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Martin Wilkie, Research Analyst at Citi]

Thank you.

[Martin Wilkie, Research Analyst at Citi]

Just on semiconductors within that. It's not about semiconductors with a big part of the revenue acceleration in the period just reported. How much visibility do you have on that? Is that something that we can expect to continue? Do you have an order backlog that suggests that we have good visibility over the next six months or so? How do we think about that semiconductor side of Interconnect?

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Let me hand that one to Julian because that really is his baby. Julian from the past.

[Julian Fagge, CFO at Smiths Group]

The semi business is really quite short cycle so we do not get a significant amount of future visibility. That said, we, you know, as evidenced in the results, we have performed very strongly across the first half, particularly in the high performance GPU part of the market, the AI part of the market and certainly the underlying conditions that are driving that remain very positive as we look forward.

[Martin Wilkie, Research Analyst at Citi]

Great, thank you very much.

[Operator]

Thank you. We will now take our next question. Please stand by. The next question comes in the line of Mark Davies Jones from Stifel. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

[Mark Davies Jones, Managing Director at Stifel]

Morning, Roland.

[Mark Davies Jones, Managing Director at Stifel]

Julian. Two for me please. Firstly, on Detection, still very strong OE growth. Obviously as we go through that transfer to CT, how long before we hit the inflection with enough of the installed base that the aftermarket growth starts to grow at least in line with the OE and the margin can start to inflect? That would be the first question.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Okay, yes, we're just over 50% through that cycle. We've got two to three years of that going forward still and we are winning over 50% of what's out there. Very pleased with that product and the execution of actually delivering that product. You recall we had a few issues in getting that into airports a while ago, but those are now truly overcome, as you can see in the margin progression in that. As they go in, the aftermarket comes through on that. We're seeing the aftermarket come through on that. You're right, the aftermarket has a higher margin, a significantly higher margin on that. That will all be to the positive, I think from the point of view of inflections. I think we'll see continued growth because we've got other OE products that are coming through.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

It is a significant amount of revenue from Detection, don't get me wrong. But it isn't the substantial amount of revenue. It doesn't account for all the growth in Detection. I think we'll see a continuation of the CTiX rollout for two to three years. We'll definitely see some and we've already sort of demonstrated better aftermarket margins as efficiencies come through. But there will be another OE coming through after that and most likely in the whole baggage area as well.

[Mark Davies Jones, Managing Director at Stifel]

Okay, thank you. Just back on Interconnect if I may, given that very strong semiconductor performance. I guess maybe one for Julian if it was his baby. Do you think you can get full value for that business selling it as a whole? Given the slightly different peer group across the different segments of Interconnect, do you miss losing out some of the full value of that semiconductor piece?

[Julian Fagge, CFO at Smiths Group]

Thanks, Mark. I mean we're open to all options. Our primary focus really is to sell the business as a whole. I think you'll understand it's probably best we don't kind of give the running commentary on how we proceed. Look, I think Interconnect is really nicely set up and we're on track to execute.

[Mark Davies Jones, Managing Director at Stifel]

Okay, thank you. Understood.

[Operator]

Thank you. We will now go to our next question. The next question comes from the line of Stephan Klepp from HSBC. Please go ahead. Yours now.

[Stephan Klepp, Equity Research Analyst at HSBC]

Yeah, Hi.

[Stephan Klepp, Equity Research Analyst at HSBC]

Good morning, Roland. Good morning, Julian. Thanks for taking my question. Can we talk about John Crane a little bit more again? You mentioned first of all that growth was 1-2 percentage points lower. Is that regarding Smiths as a group or John Crane itself? You have been saying as well that all the intake was impacted. Can we clarify a little bit and can we clarify what that means in terms of catch up potential? I heard you saying H2 is going to be stronger growth again, but did you lose out here? At the same time you're saying that your view on John Crane for the full year has come down a little bit obviously due to the cyber incident. Can we clarify that as well again?

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Yes. Let me have Julian answer the 1% to 2%. Is that Smiths or is that group? I'll talk about order intake and outlook. Do you want to?

[Julian Fagge, CFO at Smiths Group]

Yes.

[Julian Fagge, CFO at Smiths Group]

The 1% to 2% impact was on John Crane in the first half?

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Yeah.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Order intake. The order intake. As you know, we do not talk about specific size of the order book, but the order intake in John Crane is robust. You know, as I mentioned earlier this morning, over 90% of our aftermarket is captive. You are not going to lose out for a couple of weeks. The market is very positive. Our position in the market is very strong. Will it take some time to catch up on that? And is aftermarket something that takes time to catch up on? Yes, it does. The outlook. We are being cautious on the outlook because this is incredibly vertically integrated business. What we see is that the fact that it will take us time to catch up but overarchingly have we lost out definitely. You can see OEM is not something that happens in a couple of weeks.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

The OEM is where this business starts. That's the beginning of the cycle. You win the OEM part of the business and then it goes through. John Crane's outlook is very, is very robust. We're confident in the market, we're confident in our position in the market and we're confident in our ability to execute. We just need to deal with a few operational issues from the fact that we had that cyber incident and we.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Are so vertically integrated.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

I would say take away from that positive outlook and a better H2 than an H1.

[Stephan Klepp, Equity Research Analyst at HSBC]

Okay, thank you. On Detection, I always understood the business that you need the slots to deliver your equipment into the airport. Shouldn't that give you very high visibility on the second half as well on the next year to come? Because you need those installations. Wouldn't it be as well possible to be a little bit more positive and more constructive on the growth rate that we should see in the next half year and probably beyond that?

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

You're correct. I mean the visibility on Detection is the most visibility that we have in any of our businesses. We have a very robust order book which is a multi-year order book, spreads in fact, not only this year, the remainder of this year, beg your pardon, into next year, but also into the year after. Yeah, we can see we obviously not going to guide for FY 2026 at the moment. As we've pointed out, I mean the order book is robust I think is the best thing to take away from that.

[Stephan Klepp, Equity Research Analyst at HSBC]

Okay, last one. You mentioned the new CapEx cycle with regard to the baggage scanners. When would that commence best? My best guess from today. Because you said that you are going through the certification process at the moment.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Yes, we're going through the certification process in Europe at the moment. I haven't got a huge amount of visibility. That relies on when the certification happens, that relies on when the budgets, that also relies on airports have a finite project management capacity. You don't see many airports do the front of house with the CTiX and the back of house with our whole baggage and potentially diffraction machines at the same time. That would be possible but challenging. I haven't got a clear date, but when you think that the CTiX cycle is relatively late during COVID, one would imagine the whole baggage cycle will appear to be earlier because it's probably at the same time that it was. The CTiXs is later if that makes sense.

[Stephan Klepp, Equity Research Analyst at HSBC]

Yeah. Thank you so much.

[Operator]

Thank you. We will now take our next question. Please stand by. The next question comes from the line of Andrew Simms from Berenberg. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

[Andrew Simms, Senior Equity Analyst at Berenberg]

Good morning gentlemen. Thanks for taking questions. Just firstly on the Interconnect margin. I just wonder if you could comment a little bit on the sustainability of that. Given the jump in the first half and maybe given the tailwinds in the mix, can this go any materially higher? That's the first question. Thanks.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Would you like to take it?

[Julian Fagge, CFO at Smiths Group]

Yes. A really nice performance on Interconnects margin in the first half. Over 17%. Really nice leverage of the growth, really. As well as some nice efficiency savings coming through. We'd expect as the volume stays strong that the margin will be in the same performance. Good. Second half outlook.

[Andrew Simms, Senior Equity Analyst at Berenberg]

Great, thank you. Just on the guidance, you mentioned that the guidance includes the potential impact of U.S. tariffs that are currently in place. I'm just wondering if you could comment on where you're seeing that or what measures you're taking around those. Thanks.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Yes, I'll take that. Maybe you can add to that, Julian. Yes, the current guidance supports our current understanding of tariffs at the moment. It's important to remember that Smiths is local for local. We've always said we source where we manufacture and we manufacture where we sell. We're not immune to tariffs. In fact, if you look into our AP plan, part of our AP plan was moving semiconductor production from China into America. There were already tariffs on that product and we decided to move that through. We've got a good understanding of our flows being local for local and not being sort of massively globalized. We don't feel, you know, we never feel overly confident, but we feel we can be agile. We can pass on some of that cost if necessary, on what gets hit.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

At the moment that's our. We're monitoring it actively and this is our best view as tariffs currently stand. Don't know if there's anything else.

[Julian Fagge, CFO at Smiths Group]

I mean it's obviously a fluid situation and we have to carefully monitor it. As Roland said, our guidance reflects our latest understanding and we're relatively well positioned. I'd perhaps just add that we are making and planning the mitigation that we would take should things go differently. We have various actions that we can take to mitigate the effects, certainly in the short term.

[Andrew Simms, Senior Equity Analyst at Berenberg]

Great, thank you. Maybe just one final one. You're talking about starting separation of the businesses. I think we've heard the past year that behind the scenes that there's quite a lot of commonality in terms of platforms and things like that. In terms of that separation, is there going to be a lot of post transaction service levels required or any investment to prepare the businesses to stand alone or some very dis-synergies, I suppose. Thanks.

[Julian Fagge, CFO at Smiths Group]

We're working through the separation work streams and as is typical with these types of separations, there's certain costs that will travel with the businesses and there's certain costs that could potentially get left behind. We'll navigate that. We know how to do that and we're confident we'll get it sorted out and certainly treating fiscal year 2026 as a transition as we migrate over. We don't envisage any significant one time costs as we plan for the separation.

[Operator]

Thank you. We will now go to our next question. Please stand by. The next question comes from the line of Dylan Jones from Kepler Cheuvreux. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

[Dylan Jones, Equity Research Analyst at Kepler Cheuvreux]

Morning Roland. Morning Julian. Thanks for taking my question. Just a few quick follow ups. Most of mine have been asked, I might ask one by one. On Interconnect, perhaps just asking a slightly different way in terms of the semi end market, do you have a sense of where the sort of semi volumes are compared to historic levels?

[Julian Fagge, CFO at Smiths Group]

A little bit more color on semiconductors. The semiconductor market segments into many different end users and, you know, we're still seeing relatively soft end market performance through automotive, industrial, and where we're seeing the growth and the strength is in that kind of high end, high performance GPU end of the market. A lot of that performance is value driven and therefore, you know, the volumes whilst up don't reflect and mirror the value growth that's sitting particularly in those AI chips. As I said before, we're really well positioned. The technology we have with the DaVinci product is very strong and we're getting win and designed into many of the advanced programs that are out there. We're pleased with how we're doing.

[Dylan Jones, Equity Research Analyst at Kepler Cheuvreux]

Got it. Thanks for that. You obviously announced at this result the acquisition of Dock Park. Just wondering if there's sort of any update commentary you can sort of give on the M&A pipeline and also just kind of interested in sort of commentary around, I suppose, the capacity for more M&A. By that I obviously don't mean balance sheet. I'm sort of talking about, you know, there's a whole number of sort of initiatives going on at the group, sort of the three acquisitions announced recently, the acceleration program, and obviously the demergers as well. Just interested in your thoughts around that as well.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Yep, no, thank you for that. I mean we're very excited that, you know, to welcome Dock Park into the, into the Smiths family. It's a continuation of accelerating our organic and inorganic drive with flexible ducting and metal ducting as well. This is a very successful process that we have for bringing these mainly family owned businesses which we managed to acquire for very reasonable multiples and bringing into the business and garnering the synergies that are available to us. It's a very well laid out playbook. It's a specific team in construction that does that, which is very helpful because they really know how to do this. It's a well oiled machine. We have made the other acquisitions in other parts of Flex-Tek. Again, that gives us the bandwidth around that as well. It gives us the bandwidth.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

The heat acquisition in Wattco using the same playbook but different team. We are keen to continue with these bolt on acquisitions. We love these bolt on acquisitions. I think you've seen the track record and the compounding effect that that has for us. We will continue with that. We have a very active and focused pipeline. We always said, if you recall, we have a very active pipeline with different types of acquisition. We are very focused on the bolt ons. We always said we were more focused on Flex-Tek and John Crane which could have given you an idea of where our thinking was always going. That continues and continues with pace and purpose. The other aspects you talk about bandwidth, obviously the demergers are focused on a different part of the business and we have a dedicated team at centre to support that.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

We're comfortable with that. If you recall what was said, it was always two thirds is focused, of the remainder is focused on John Crane. A substantial part focus on John Crane is probably the simplest way of doing that. Flex-Tek less so. They've got plenty of bandwidth there as well. We acted on John Crane, as you can see, very quickly. A significant portion of their acceleration plan is now bedding in, as it were. We'll see that continuing. Yes. Are we busy? Absolutely. We do have focus and different teams on those things. We feel confident we can continue with those lines, mainly on bolt-on though. I would suggest that's where our sweet spot is at the moment.

[Julian Fagge, CFO at Smiths Group]

I just add discipline, capital allocation, you know, we've said it, we invest our capital organically and the AP is a good example of what we're doing there. Bolt-ons is working nicely for us. And then of course the use of capital to return to shareholders and most notably through the share buyback.

[Dylan Jones, Equity Research Analyst at Kepler Cheuvreux]

Got it.

[Dylan Jones, Equity Research Analyst at Kepler Cheuvreux]

No, thank you for that. Just one more, if I can squeeze one more in. Just following up on the divestments. I mean, you obviously provided a bit of an update, sort of saying that the process has commenced, it's on track. I think at the time of announcing this strategic shift you sort of alluded to, you expect a strong interest. I'm just wondering if there's any sort of updated commentary now that the process has commenced around the sort of level of interest that you're seeing in particular the Interconnect business, but also the Detection business at this point.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Julian, perhaps you'd like to answer that one.

[Julian Fagge, CFO at Smiths Group]

I mean, again, I think you'll understand best that we don't give the running commentary, but let's just say process running as we expect, on time, on pace, and we're confident we'll transact as we committed.

[Dylan Jones, Equity Research Analyst at Kepler Cheuvreux]

Got it. Thanks a lot, gentlemen.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Thank you.

[Operator]

Thank you. As there are no further questions, I would now like to hand back to the room for any closing remarks.

[Roland Carter, CEO at Smiths Group]

Thank you. Thank you very much and thank you for all the questions today. Hopefully we answer that. Essentially, we are very pleased with the financial performance and the outlook which we are reconfirming. As Julian said, disciplined capital allocation, of which that half billion buyback and the bolt-on acquisitions are two of those levers. We are very comfortable in using all the levers of disciplined capital allocation. The medium term targets. I think we are very excited about Future Smiths and I think the medium term targets are ambitious, but with focus and resilience, we are confident that we can hit those and really give ourselves that premium rating that Smiths deserves. As we said, the strategic actions are in flight and they are executing against the plan exactly as we expected. Thank you very much for your time.

[Operator]

Ladies and gentlemen.

Participants

Executives

• Roland Carter, CEO
• Julian Fagge, CFO

Analysts

• Dylan Jones, Equity Research Analyst at Kepler Cheuvreux
• Andrew Simms, Senior Equity Analyst at Berenberg
• Christian Hinderaker, Executive Director at Goldman Sachs
• Martin Wilkie, Research Analyst at Citi
• Lushanthan Mahendrarajah, Analyst at JPMorgan
• Mark Davies Jones, Managing Director at Stifel
• Stephan Klepp, Equity Research Analyst at HSBC