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ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Aqua Metals EPS ResultsActual EPS-$10.60Consensus EPS -$4.00Beat/MissMissed by -$6.60One Year Ago EPSN/AAqua Metals Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AAqua Metals Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2024Date3/31/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateMonday, March 31, 2025Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsAqua Metals' Q3 2026 earnings is estimated for Tuesday, November 3, 2026, based on past reporting schedulesConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Aqua Metals Q4 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMarch 31, 2025ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Aqua Metals ran its lithium AquaRefining pilot plant continuously for three weeks, producing over 600 pounds of battery-grade lithium carbonate at >99.5% purity, validating its technology at pilot scale. The company refocused its near-term production on battery-grade lithium carbonate and mixed hydroxide precipitate to lower capital requirements, boost plant-level margins and accelerate time to revenue. Aqua Metals entered a flagship deal with 6K Energy to supply up to 30% recycled content for its U.S. cathode manufacturing facility, supporting a domestic closed-loop battery supply chain. To scale capital-efficiently, management is pursuing co-location, toll processing, licensing and joint ventures while deferring completion of the full Sierra Arc plant until project financing is secured. For fiscal 2024, the company reported a net loss of $24.6 million vs. $24 million last year, ended Q4 with ~$4.1 million in cash, raised ~$15 million (mostly from insiders) and recognized a $2.6 million plant impairment. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallAqua Metals Q4 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:01Greetings and welcome to the Aqua Metals Q4 and full-year investor conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the presentation. You may submit questions via the webcast at any time by using the Ask a Question field on the left side of your screen. Operator00:00:17If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Bob Meyers, Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin. Bob MeyersHead of Investor Relations at Aqua Metals00:00:31Thank you, Operator, and thank you, everybody, for joining. Earlier today, Aqua Metals issued a press release providing an operational update and discussing financial results for the Q4 and full-year ended December 31, 2024. This release is available in the Investor Relations section on the company's website at aquametals.com. Hosting the call today are Steve Cotton, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Judd Merrill, Chief Financial Officer. Bob MeyersHead of Investor Relations at Aqua Metals00:00:57Before we begin, I would like to remind participants that during the call, management will be making forward-looking statements. Please refer to the company's report on Form 10-K filed today, March 31, for a summary of the forward-looking statements and the risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause actual results that differ materially from those forward-looking statements. Aqua Metals cautions investors not to place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements. Bob MeyersHead of Investor Relations at Aqua Metals00:01:25The company does not undertake and specifically disclaims any obligation to update or revise such statements to reflect new circumstances or unanticipated events as they occur, except as required by law. As a reminder, after the formal remarks, we will be taking questions. Bob MeyersHead of Investor Relations at Aqua Metals00:01:40Questions will be accepted over the phone from analysts, and all other investors can submit a question using the online webcast portal provided in today's and earlier press releases. We will take as many questions as we can in our available time slot. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Steve Cotton, CEO of Aqua Metals. Steve, the call is yours. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:02:04Thank you, Bob, and good afternoon, everyone. I appreciate you joining Aqua Metals' Q4 and full-year 2024 earnings call. I'm Steve Cotton, President and CEO of Aqua Metals. Today, I'll provide a detailed update on our operations, strategic progress, and how we are positioning Aqua Metals for meaningful advancement in 2025. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:02:23These remarks will cover our technology validation, product milestones, commercialization strategy, financial positioning, and our broader vision for scaling critical battery material production right here in the US. 2024 was a year marked by resilience, focus, and adaptation. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:02:42In a macroeconomic environment challenged by falling battery metal prices and tight capital markets, we took proactive steps to conserve cash, validate our technology, engage potential partners, and refine our strategy for scalable, capital-efficient deployment. We set out with three primary goals this year. First, to prove the repeatability and reliability of our lithium AquaRefining technology. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:03:06Second, deepen and expand commercial partnerships that will support long-term operations. Third, lay the groundwork for scaling operations through flexible, partner-centric models that minimize our capital intensity while maximizing impact. We successfully operated our lithium AquaRefining pilot plant for over the whole year, including a three-week continuous 24 by 7 endurance run completed in December. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:03:32This operational milestone further demonstrated the reliability and efficiency of our process at the pilot scale. The system was consistently delivering impressive recovery rates and high purity for lithium, cobalt, and nickel, for which we have provided samples to potential partners and customers globally. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:03:51In addition, independent analysts have shown that our patented AquaRefining process produces 83% less CO2 than traditional hydrometallurgical recycling methods. During our December endurance run, we produced more than 600 lbs of battery-grade lithium carbonate at purity levels exceeding 99.5%. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:04:11That's not just lab-scale production. It's representative product at a scale and quantity that few, if any, others in the US are matching today. We've delivered these samples to multiple cathode-active material or CAM producers, and we're encouraged by the positive feedback and engaging feedback and the ongoing testing of our material for use in NMC, lithium iron phosphate, and other battery chemistries. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:04:36In another major achievement, we worked with a downstream CAM partner to convert recycled domestic nickel into cathode-active material, a significant milestone for the domestic industry. That material is now under validation with several leading battery manufacturers in the US and in Asia. This is a major proof point for our vision of a closed-loop battery material supply chain where end-of-life batteries feed directly back into the creation of new ones. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:05:06As we look to scale our impact, we've evolved our commercialization strategy to reflect both the opportunities and the realities of today's market. While our Sierra ARC facility remains a well-prepared and valuable asset, its completion remains on hold, pending further financing. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:05:24We continue to actively engage with potential capital partners and strategic partners to bring it online when conditions align, but we are not waiting for that singular project to move forward. We are executing a nimble, diversified strategy to bring AquaRefining to commercial scale. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:05:41We are also prioritizing co-location opportunities where we can deploy our technology alongside existing recycling or battery manufacturing operations to reduce logistics costs and accelerate time to revenue. Toll processing models, where we process feedstock on behalf of partners who already control materials but need a clean, efficient way to recover the critical metals. Licensing and joint ventures. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:06:06These allow partners to deploy our proven AquaRefining technologies within their own facilities, expanding our reach without heavy capital outlays. We're currently in active discussions with multiple parties across these models. Each model represents, in and of itself, a direct path to commercial deployment that aligns with our mission and technology advantages. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:06:27Our partnership with 6K Energy remains a flagship example of our ability to form commercial alliances that support closed-loop battery material supply chains. Under our agreement, Aqua Metals will provide up to 30% of the recycled content for 6K's domestic cathode manufacturing facility, a major achievement for US clean energy infrastructure. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:06:49This agreement is helping to define how domestic circularity for battery materials can become a reality, and we are actively working with 6K as both companies progress their strategic objectives and plans for commercial-scale facilities. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:07:04In parallel, we've continued advancing negotiations on feedstock and offtake agreements that will support operations in any commercial deployment, whether at Sierra Arc or elsewhere. These conversations are integral to de-risking the ramp of future facilities and ensuring a stable revenue model as we scale. We strengthened our financial position in 2024 with a mix of insider-supported equity and strategic cost management. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:07:31We raised approximately $15 million during the year, with over two-thirds of the funding coming from Aqua Metals' leadership and board in our $1.5 million bridge note. This internal direct financial investment underscores our individual and collective confidence in the direction we're heading. We also secured an up to $2.2 million tax abatement from the state of Nevada based on the projected economic and employment impacts of our recycling operations. This recognition reflects our contribution to Nevada's emerging ecosystem and broader clean energy economy. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:08:05Additionally, we arranged interim bridge financing again with strong insider participation to maintain momentum across our development and partnership initiatives while we pursue long-term project financing and strategic capital options. Our technology and execution continued to earn validation from government and industry partners. We were honored to be selected by the U.S. Department of Energy for the ACME Revive program, a national initiative to support domestic critical mineral recovery and circular supply chains. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:08:39Environment + Energy Leader also named our AquaRefining process a "top project of 2024," citing its environmental benefits, innovation, and scalability potential. Closer to home, we were also recognized as a finalist for the Best Places to Work in Northern Nevada, notably the only lithium-focused company in the lithium state to earn that distinction. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:09:05We also expanded our board of directors, adding experienced leaders from the battery and finance sectors who bring valuable insight and relationships that are already informing our strategies and our tactics. As we move into 2025, Aqua Metals is focused on translating technology success into commercial deployment. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:09:25That means advancing co-location and licensing opportunities, financing feedstock and offtake agreements that underpin all commercial operations, securing strategic funding that enables execution while preserving shareholder value, continuing to produce and supply battery-grade recycled materials from our pilot facility as part of customer validation and partnership development. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:09:49We believe this approach allows us to scale smartly, partner effectively, and meet a growing and critical need in the US for domestically produced low-carbon battery materials in state-of-the-art facilities that can create desirable and lasting jobs for the communities they operate in. I want to close by thanking the Aqua Metals team. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:10:13Their determination, creativity, and commitment made this year's accomplishments possible. I also want to thank our partners, our board, and our shareholders for their ongoing support and continued belief in our mission. We have the technology, the talent, and the partnerships to lead in clean battery metal recovery. With a flexible capital-efficient plan in motion, we're positioned to make 2025 a breakout year. With that, I'll turn it over to Judd for a discussion of our financials. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:10:46Thanks, Steve. Let me start my comments with our balance sheet. We ended the quarter with total cash of approximately $4.1 million, higher than the previous quarter and an indication of management's focus on maintaining our cash position. Subsequent to year-end, we received the remaining $100,000 from Li-Cycle related to the year-end receivable. CapEx was largely unchanged from the prior quarter. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:11:11Towards the end of 2024, we shifted our strategic focus to prioritizing lithium carbonate production alongside mixed hydroxide precipitate. This decision aimed to reduce capital and operational intensity while enabling a larger-scale facility with higher revenue and improved margins than the previous design. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:11:34As a result of this strategic shift, at December 31, 2024, the company recognized an impairment of approximately $2.6 million related to vendor equipment deposits for equipment that was initially required for phase one of the recycling campus at the Sierra Arc but is no longer needed under the revised plan. Finally, on the balance sheet, we recognized a warrant liability related to warrants issued last year. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:12:00The warrant liability was initially recorded at a fair value of $986,000 and subsequently remeasured to $1.5 million as of December 31, 2024. The change in fair value of $507,000 was recognized as a non-cash expense with an interest expense in the income statement for the year ended December 31, 2024. I will now move on to the income statement. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:12:29Plant operations increased approximately $931,000, or 15%, for the 12 months ended December 31, 2024, as compared to the 12 months ended December 31, 2023. This increase was primarily driven by approximately $758,000 rise in payroll and related fees as we hired additional staff to operate the pilot facility, process black mass, and build out our commercial facility during the first seven months of the year. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:12:59Subsequent to this, and by the Q4, our payroll and related fees expense were significantly lower. Our 2025 expenses will also be lower. General and administrative expense increased approximately $329,000, or 3%, for the three months ended December 31, 2024, compared to the 12 months ended December 31, 2023, and we also expect 2025 G&A expenses to be lower than the prior year. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:13:30We recognized interest expense of $1.1 million for the year ended December 31, 2024, and $621,000 for the year ended December 31, 2023. The increase in interest expense is primarily due to the $507,000 change in fair value of the warrant liability, which I have just previously explained. Our net loss for the 12 months ended December 31, 2024, was approximately $24.6 million, or a negative $3.83 per basic and diluted share, compared to a net loss of $24 million, or a negative $5.10 per basic and diluted share for 2023. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:14:12Now, moving on to the cash flow statement. Net cash used in operating activities during each of these periods consisted primarily of our net loss adjusted for non-cash items such as depreciation, amortization, and stock-based compensation charges, as well as changes in working capital. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:14:33Our net cash used in investing operations primarily included fixed assets, acquisitions, deposits for fixed asset purchases, and proceeds received from the note receivable. Net cash provided by financing activities for the year ended December 31, 2024, consisted of approximately $5 million in net proceeds from the sale of Aqua Metals shares pursuant to the ATM, $1.5 million in net proceeds from the loan agreement entered into on December 18, 2024, and approximately $7.3 million in net proceeds from our May 2024 public offering offset by other miscellaneous financing items. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:15:21Our primary financing options remain the same: project finance and debt-based financing. These structures will support our expansion and strategic initiatives, and we continue to see them as the best pathways for funding our growth. However, we now have even greater confidence as we pursue these options thanks to enhanced economics resulting from our revised plant architecture and streamlined product set. By refining our plant architecture, we have reduced capital expenditure requirements while maintaining efficiency and scalability. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:15:59This, coupled with a simplified project product portfolio, has led to improved contribution margins, a key factor in increasing the attractiveness of our financial model to lenders and investors. These changes not only strengthen our cash flow but also position us for more favorable financing terms. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:16:21We are actively engaged with our financing partners to capitalize these improvements, ensuring that our funding strategy aligns with our goals while maintaining financial discipline. We remain committed to prudent capital allocation and optimizing our cost structure. As we move forward, we will continue to assess market conditions and evaluate additional financing opportunities as they arise. That concludes my remarks on the company financials. I will now turn it back over to the moderator for Q&A. Operator00:16:57Thank you. At this time, we'll conduct our question-and-answer session. If you'd like to ask a question on the phone, press Star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate that your line is in the question queue. You may press Star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. Operator00:17:15As a reminder, you can submit your questions also via the web by typing them in the Ask a Question feature on the left side of your screen. One moment, please, while we pull for questions. Our first question comes from Mickey Legg with The Benchmark Company. Please state your question. Mickey LeggEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company00:17:44Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. I know you were just giving some comments on this, Judd, but if there's any other additional comments or color you could provide on your plans for long-term financing and the options you're considering, if there's anything you could tell us just about how those discussions are progressing or what stage they're in, that would be helpful. Thanks. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:18:11Yeah. No, thanks, Mickey, for your question. As I said, kind of in my prepared remarks, we are focused on what we think is the best for Aqua Metals and what we're trying to do to build out the Sierra Arc facility, which is project financing and debt financing. We do have lenders who fit that criteria that we're engaged with and talking with. Terms have been discussed. There are certain things that we need to do to bring those funds in, and we're working towards those. I can't really give a timeline on it just yet, but those discussions are happening. Mickey LeggEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company00:18:54Okay. Okay. Yeah, that's helpful. Yeah. I'm not going to ask you for a timeline. I understand you can't give that out. Yeah, that's all really relating to this updated plan for the Sierra Arc facility. I just wanted to check in on that, if you could unpack the updated plan a little bit and just remind us if you're still able to reach, let's say, a commissioning point for phase one within a couple of quarters. I think on the last call, you mentioned two to three quarters subject to receiving financing, of course. If you could just get into that a little bit. Thanks. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:19:41Yeah, Mickey. Good question. This is Steve. Yeah, the Sierra Arc is definitely there, the land's there, the building's there, the upfit is complete. Think of it as basically move-in ready. A lot of the equipment is already ordered. We just have decided to be careful to spend that remaining capital until we have that capital financed. Think of it as like a move-in ready facility for the main building. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:20:08Now, with our recent change to improve our value proposition as we talk to these project finance and debtors that are out there, we will put together an additional building that will take care of the feedstock processing as well as the lithium carbonation and some things along those lines. There is now a building that would get built while we've completed the move-in of the existing building. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:20:36That's kind of like what we characterize as an outbuilding. It's not going to be that complex of a build, but it will allow us to get from the 3,000 tons of black mass processing up to the 7,000 tons. With our kind of industry, what we believe is industry low-cost conversion cost, low-cost leading process, coupled with the high-value product of battery-grade lithium carbonate and the MHP as the two primary products at that higher volume, that's what we've been talking to these various project finance and debtors about is that value proposition. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:21:15It's about the same amount of remaining CapEx that we need to complete it, but it does throw off some plant-level EBITDA that we believe sets the company up to be able to service debt or any project financing arrangement. That's hopefully answering your question. Mickey LeggEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company00:21:32Yeah. Yeah. No, definitely. That's very helpful. Yeah, it seems like you're being smart with this reevaluation of how you're scaling up that plant to make sure you're allocating capital as efficiently as possible. The next one I have is you've mentioned a lot of discussions with customers for offtake agreements, co-locations, or potential licensing opportunities. Mickey LeggEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company00:21:59Just curious if you could give us any more details on those discussions, how they're trending given everything that's been going on in the macro. Are people still hungry for some of this domestically produced product? Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:22:17Yeah, for sure. Fortunately, because we have the pilot plant that's been operating for well over a year, effectively two years now, we've been able to produce representative battery-grade examples of those materials and engage with those offtakers, OEMs that are out there. There is a little bit of chicken and the egg factor, which is build it, and then they will come or get them to come so you can build it. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:22:43That's what we're balancing is those feedstock and offtake agreements, particularly the way that the metals markets are gyrating. Not even gyrating. They've come down, and they're expected to go up as we get towards the end of this year and into next year with a little bit of analyst consensus. They're not going to shoot to the moon, but they're going to get to more reasonable levels. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:23:05Those feedstock and offtake agreements go hand in glove with the financing of the build-out of that facility. Because we've got that pilot that's produced, as I mentioned, 600 lbs just in December of battery-grade lithium carbonate that we think is the most recycled battery-grade lithium carbonate that's been ever produced in North America, let alone the U.S., that is what's really enabling these conversations to continue to mature. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:23:33These things take time, and we're just being very careful with our cash on hand and management of CapEx and not get out over our skis by investing further into the completion of that Sierra Arc and that outbuilding until we have all these contracts locked and loaded. Mickey LeggEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company00:23:52Right. Got it. Okay. Yeah. That's helpful and sounds smart. Last one I have here is you mentioned previously some visits from industry leaders and government agencies. We're just curious if there's anything else you could tell us there. How have those discussions been ongoing and if they've led anywhere meaningful? Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:24:17Yeah. We hosted quite a few US government folks last year as well as international. You can look at our social feed and see some of that, inclusive of a big Dutch contingent that came out. Those conversations continue. Of course, there has been a change in administration. The interesting news of late is that there has been an executive order written regarding the urgency of producing critical minerals in the US that we believe we are a perfect fit for. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:24:53We are engaging with the new administration officials on how to have Aqua Metals participate and try to get funds through that mechanism. That would be, in addition to a project finance or a debt-based deal, we still see a great opportunity on government dollars. With the change of administration, these things take time. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:25:19We think that's about one to two quarters for us to really get to some level of resolution. We're encouraged that the tone of the executive order seems to impart urgency. We're pleased to see that because we think it's urgent as well that the U.S. begins to be able to produce these materials. Not only Aqua Metals, but many companies could certainly use some additional help from the government to affect that end. Mickey LeggEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company00:25:46Great. Yeah. I agree. I think that's all very understandable. That's all I have. Thanks, guys. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:25:55Thanks. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:25:55Yeah. Thanks, Mickey. Operator00:25:58Thank you. We will now transition over to Bob Meyers for some additional remarks. Thank you. Bob MeyersHead of Investor Relations at Aqua Metals00:26:04Yes. Thank you. There's a few questions. First question. As a recap of the last year, how would you summarize the current state of Aqua Metals and the potential the company has? Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:26:18Okay. Thanks. That's a good broad question. I'll just do my best to summarize my view on the current state of affairs for Aqua Metals. We've had an interesting and yet very productive year in the past year. We've made really good progress across key strategic priorities that we outlined on our technology and our processes and our commercial partnerships and partnership developments, as well as ongoing initiatives overall for the company. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:26:50We've achieved milestones that we think strengthens the company's future. That includes demonstrating those high recovery rates and purity levels that meet and often exceed the needs of potential partners for battery-grade materials. Also, and this is really important to emphasize, at what we believe is to be the lowest cost for processing those materials. Oftentimes, in the commodities market, low-cost later wins. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:27:18We think because our process doesn't consume all these one-time use chemicals and have all these waste streams that have to be managed and additional labor that we don't need because of the automation and controls with really clean energy jobs for those that are working there, we have that cost advantage, and we've confirmed that. We have the data to back that from the operations of our actual pilot plant. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:27:41We converted recycled domestic nickel into cathode-active material with a downstream partner. That material is literally being tested by top-tier battery manufacturers and vehicle OEMs. These are large global organizations that are also looking to create a domestic supply chain. We continue to strengthen and expand our partnership opportunities and collaborate with other organizations to find new ways to work together. This industry is certainly in a consolidation phase. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:28:13We see opportunities out in the marketplace for us to partner in different ways than we might have even seen a year before. We can't control this uncertainty and the current market dynamics and overall uncertainty as the administration has changed or what folks might or might not be missing when it comes to Aqua Metals' value proposition. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:28:37What we can control is that we can adapt and optimize the company's strategy. That is why we chose to simplify our product set to the battery-grade lithium carbonate and the MHP to get a quicker time to market at a lower cost at a higher volume and better EBITDA margins at the plant level. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:28:56For those corners that we turn that things change, we may be adept and make more adjustments because we are a dynamic and case-hardened company that has that survival and growth instinct incorporated into our own DNA. Bob MeyersHead of Investor Relations at Aqua Metals00:29:17Great. Thank you. The next question. Your recent announcement discussed the change in production, and you talked a little bit about this in your prepared remarks focused on lithium carbonate and MHP. Can you expand on that a bit? Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:29:33Yeah, sure. I'll expand further on that happily. Our competitive advantage is our technology and our know-how, as inclusive of which is our IP, which, as a reminder to everybody, we have over 70 global patents issued, 40-plus patents pending. We continue to expand what we see as this really strong advantage there. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:29:55Our focus on the battery-grade lithium carbonate, which is truly unique to us to not just make technical grade, but actual battery-grade lithium carbonate, as well as a really nickel-rich and clean MHP, we see a faster path to get to revenue with less capital requirements, higher profitability, as I was mentioning, at the plant level, and particularly by being able to upsize the amount of black mass material input by more than double from 3,000 tons to a planned 7,000 tons in the Sierra Arc configuration. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:30:31We view it's much more of it as a stepped approach as the production is part of our technical process. We were essentially already doing all this, and we also are pursuing full metals recycling ultimately as a phase two as the market grows. It is really an adjustment to the near-term approach for the company and giving the market what the market needs and wants today, which is that battery-grade lithium carbonate as well as that MHP, which trades globally kind of as a class one nickel type of material. Bob MeyersHead of Investor Relations at Aqua Metals00:31:09Great. Thank you. Next question. The company added two new board members recently. Can you offer some insights in how those executives have helped with strategic objectives? Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:31:22Yes, certainly. Both of the leaders are talented, experienced executives with great track records of strengthening organizations and growing them with emerging technologies. Eric Gangloff has a really strong financing background. He was in the financing business and debt business for most of his career. He has brought a lot of new perspectives and opportunities for the company. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:31:47Steve Henderson's industry connections are really helping to open doors and certainly add further credibility to our value proposition as we engage with automotive and battery-related OEMs, for which he has relationships with many of them at a very high level with his track record. Both Eric and Steve have already been extremely helpful in supporting some of the recent innovations and the strategic plans for the company, even the tactical plans. We are really glad to have them. Operator00:32:23Thank you. That is all the time we have for questions. I will now hand the floor over to Steve Cotton for closing remarks. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:32:31Great. I really appreciate everybody's time and continued interest in Aqua Metals. We'll continue to keep you guys updated. Stay tuned for updates on our social and other developments between our calls. If you have any questions, please contact our IR partner, FNK, or us directly. We look forward to continued engagement. Everybody have a great rest of the day. We'll talk soon. Operator00:32:58Thank you. With that, we conclude today's conference. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:01Greetings and welcome to the Aqua Metals Q4 and full-year investor conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the presentation. You may submit questions via the webcast at any time by using the Ask a Question field on the left side of your screen. Operator00:00:17If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Bob Meyers, Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin. Bob MeyersHead of Investor Relations at Aqua Metals00:00:31Thank you, Operator, and thank you, everybody, for joining. Earlier today, Aqua Metals issued a press release providing an operational update and discussing financial results for the Q4 and full-year ended December 31, 2024. This release is available in the Investor Relations section on the company's website at aquametals.com. Hosting the call today are Steve Cotton, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Judd Merrill, Chief Financial Officer. Bob MeyersHead of Investor Relations at Aqua Metals00:00:57Before we begin, I would like to remind participants that during the call, management will be making forward-looking statements. Please refer to the company's report on Form 10-K filed today, March 31, for a summary of the forward-looking statements and the risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause actual results that differ materially from those forward-looking statements. Aqua Metals cautions investors not to place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements. Bob MeyersHead of Investor Relations at Aqua Metals00:01:25The company does not undertake and specifically disclaims any obligation to update or revise such statements to reflect new circumstances or unanticipated events as they occur, except as required by law. As a reminder, after the formal remarks, we will be taking questions. Bob MeyersHead of Investor Relations at Aqua Metals00:01:40Questions will be accepted over the phone from analysts, and all other investors can submit a question using the online webcast portal provided in today's and earlier press releases. We will take as many questions as we can in our available time slot. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Steve Cotton, CEO of Aqua Metals. Steve, the call is yours. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:02:04Thank you, Bob, and good afternoon, everyone. I appreciate you joining Aqua Metals' Q4 and full-year 2024 earnings call. I'm Steve Cotton, President and CEO of Aqua Metals. Today, I'll provide a detailed update on our operations, strategic progress, and how we are positioning Aqua Metals for meaningful advancement in 2025. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:02:23These remarks will cover our technology validation, product milestones, commercialization strategy, financial positioning, and our broader vision for scaling critical battery material production right here in the US. 2024 was a year marked by resilience, focus, and adaptation. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:02:42In a macroeconomic environment challenged by falling battery metal prices and tight capital markets, we took proactive steps to conserve cash, validate our technology, engage potential partners, and refine our strategy for scalable, capital-efficient deployment. We set out with three primary goals this year. First, to prove the repeatability and reliability of our lithium AquaRefining technology. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:03:06Second, deepen and expand commercial partnerships that will support long-term operations. Third, lay the groundwork for scaling operations through flexible, partner-centric models that minimize our capital intensity while maximizing impact. We successfully operated our lithium AquaRefining pilot plant for over the whole year, including a three-week continuous 24 by 7 endurance run completed in December. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:03:32This operational milestone further demonstrated the reliability and efficiency of our process at the pilot scale. The system was consistently delivering impressive recovery rates and high purity for lithium, cobalt, and nickel, for which we have provided samples to potential partners and customers globally. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:03:51In addition, independent analysts have shown that our patented AquaRefining process produces 83% less CO2 than traditional hydrometallurgical recycling methods. During our December endurance run, we produced more than 600 lbs of battery-grade lithium carbonate at purity levels exceeding 99.5%. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:04:11That's not just lab-scale production. It's representative product at a scale and quantity that few, if any, others in the US are matching today. We've delivered these samples to multiple cathode-active material or CAM producers, and we're encouraged by the positive feedback and engaging feedback and the ongoing testing of our material for use in NMC, lithium iron phosphate, and other battery chemistries. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:04:36In another major achievement, we worked with a downstream CAM partner to convert recycled domestic nickel into cathode-active material, a significant milestone for the domestic industry. That material is now under validation with several leading battery manufacturers in the US and in Asia. This is a major proof point for our vision of a closed-loop battery material supply chain where end-of-life batteries feed directly back into the creation of new ones. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:05:06As we look to scale our impact, we've evolved our commercialization strategy to reflect both the opportunities and the realities of today's market. While our Sierra ARC facility remains a well-prepared and valuable asset, its completion remains on hold, pending further financing. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:05:24We continue to actively engage with potential capital partners and strategic partners to bring it online when conditions align, but we are not waiting for that singular project to move forward. We are executing a nimble, diversified strategy to bring AquaRefining to commercial scale. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:05:41We are also prioritizing co-location opportunities where we can deploy our technology alongside existing recycling or battery manufacturing operations to reduce logistics costs and accelerate time to revenue. Toll processing models, where we process feedstock on behalf of partners who already control materials but need a clean, efficient way to recover the critical metals. Licensing and joint ventures. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:06:06These allow partners to deploy our proven AquaRefining technologies within their own facilities, expanding our reach without heavy capital outlays. We're currently in active discussions with multiple parties across these models. Each model represents, in and of itself, a direct path to commercial deployment that aligns with our mission and technology advantages. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:06:27Our partnership with 6K Energy remains a flagship example of our ability to form commercial alliances that support closed-loop battery material supply chains. Under our agreement, Aqua Metals will provide up to 30% of the recycled content for 6K's domestic cathode manufacturing facility, a major achievement for US clean energy infrastructure. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:06:49This agreement is helping to define how domestic circularity for battery materials can become a reality, and we are actively working with 6K as both companies progress their strategic objectives and plans for commercial-scale facilities. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:07:04In parallel, we've continued advancing negotiations on feedstock and offtake agreements that will support operations in any commercial deployment, whether at Sierra Arc or elsewhere. These conversations are integral to de-risking the ramp of future facilities and ensuring a stable revenue model as we scale. We strengthened our financial position in 2024 with a mix of insider-supported equity and strategic cost management. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:07:31We raised approximately $15 million during the year, with over two-thirds of the funding coming from Aqua Metals' leadership and board in our $1.5 million bridge note. This internal direct financial investment underscores our individual and collective confidence in the direction we're heading. We also secured an up to $2.2 million tax abatement from the state of Nevada based on the projected economic and employment impacts of our recycling operations. This recognition reflects our contribution to Nevada's emerging ecosystem and broader clean energy economy. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:08:05Additionally, we arranged interim bridge financing again with strong insider participation to maintain momentum across our development and partnership initiatives while we pursue long-term project financing and strategic capital options. Our technology and execution continued to earn validation from government and industry partners. We were honored to be selected by the U.S. Department of Energy for the ACME Revive program, a national initiative to support domestic critical mineral recovery and circular supply chains. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:08:39Environment + Energy Leader also named our AquaRefining process a "top project of 2024," citing its environmental benefits, innovation, and scalability potential. Closer to home, we were also recognized as a finalist for the Best Places to Work in Northern Nevada, notably the only lithium-focused company in the lithium state to earn that distinction. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:09:05We also expanded our board of directors, adding experienced leaders from the battery and finance sectors who bring valuable insight and relationships that are already informing our strategies and our tactics. As we move into 2025, Aqua Metals is focused on translating technology success into commercial deployment. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:09:25That means advancing co-location and licensing opportunities, financing feedstock and offtake agreements that underpin all commercial operations, securing strategic funding that enables execution while preserving shareholder value, continuing to produce and supply battery-grade recycled materials from our pilot facility as part of customer validation and partnership development. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:09:49We believe this approach allows us to scale smartly, partner effectively, and meet a growing and critical need in the US for domestically produced low-carbon battery materials in state-of-the-art facilities that can create desirable and lasting jobs for the communities they operate in. I want to close by thanking the Aqua Metals team. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:10:13Their determination, creativity, and commitment made this year's accomplishments possible. I also want to thank our partners, our board, and our shareholders for their ongoing support and continued belief in our mission. We have the technology, the talent, and the partnerships to lead in clean battery metal recovery. With a flexible capital-efficient plan in motion, we're positioned to make 2025 a breakout year. With that, I'll turn it over to Judd for a discussion of our financials. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:10:46Thanks, Steve. Let me start my comments with our balance sheet. We ended the quarter with total cash of approximately $4.1 million, higher than the previous quarter and an indication of management's focus on maintaining our cash position. Subsequent to year-end, we received the remaining $100,000 from Li-Cycle related to the year-end receivable. CapEx was largely unchanged from the prior quarter. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:11:11Towards the end of 2024, we shifted our strategic focus to prioritizing lithium carbonate production alongside mixed hydroxide precipitate. This decision aimed to reduce capital and operational intensity while enabling a larger-scale facility with higher revenue and improved margins than the previous design. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:11:34As a result of this strategic shift, at December 31, 2024, the company recognized an impairment of approximately $2.6 million related to vendor equipment deposits for equipment that was initially required for phase one of the recycling campus at the Sierra Arc but is no longer needed under the revised plan. Finally, on the balance sheet, we recognized a warrant liability related to warrants issued last year. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:12:00The warrant liability was initially recorded at a fair value of $986,000 and subsequently remeasured to $1.5 million as of December 31, 2024. The change in fair value of $507,000 was recognized as a non-cash expense with an interest expense in the income statement for the year ended December 31, 2024. I will now move on to the income statement. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:12:29Plant operations increased approximately $931,000, or 15%, for the 12 months ended December 31, 2024, as compared to the 12 months ended December 31, 2023. This increase was primarily driven by approximately $758,000 rise in payroll and related fees as we hired additional staff to operate the pilot facility, process black mass, and build out our commercial facility during the first seven months of the year. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:12:59Subsequent to this, and by the Q4, our payroll and related fees expense were significantly lower. Our 2025 expenses will also be lower. General and administrative expense increased approximately $329,000, or 3%, for the three months ended December 31, 2024, compared to the 12 months ended December 31, 2023, and we also expect 2025 G&A expenses to be lower than the prior year. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:13:30We recognized interest expense of $1.1 million for the year ended December 31, 2024, and $621,000 for the year ended December 31, 2023. The increase in interest expense is primarily due to the $507,000 change in fair value of the warrant liability, which I have just previously explained. Our net loss for the 12 months ended December 31, 2024, was approximately $24.6 million, or a negative $3.83 per basic and diluted share, compared to a net loss of $24 million, or a negative $5.10 per basic and diluted share for 2023. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:14:12Now, moving on to the cash flow statement. Net cash used in operating activities during each of these periods consisted primarily of our net loss adjusted for non-cash items such as depreciation, amortization, and stock-based compensation charges, as well as changes in working capital. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:14:33Our net cash used in investing operations primarily included fixed assets, acquisitions, deposits for fixed asset purchases, and proceeds received from the note receivable. Net cash provided by financing activities for the year ended December 31, 2024, consisted of approximately $5 million in net proceeds from the sale of Aqua Metals shares pursuant to the ATM, $1.5 million in net proceeds from the loan agreement entered into on December 18, 2024, and approximately $7.3 million in net proceeds from our May 2024 public offering offset by other miscellaneous financing items. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:15:21Our primary financing options remain the same: project finance and debt-based financing. These structures will support our expansion and strategic initiatives, and we continue to see them as the best pathways for funding our growth. However, we now have even greater confidence as we pursue these options thanks to enhanced economics resulting from our revised plant architecture and streamlined product set. By refining our plant architecture, we have reduced capital expenditure requirements while maintaining efficiency and scalability. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:15:59This, coupled with a simplified project product portfolio, has led to improved contribution margins, a key factor in increasing the attractiveness of our financial model to lenders and investors. These changes not only strengthen our cash flow but also position us for more favorable financing terms. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:16:21We are actively engaged with our financing partners to capitalize these improvements, ensuring that our funding strategy aligns with our goals while maintaining financial discipline. We remain committed to prudent capital allocation and optimizing our cost structure. As we move forward, we will continue to assess market conditions and evaluate additional financing opportunities as they arise. That concludes my remarks on the company financials. I will now turn it back over to the moderator for Q&A. Operator00:16:57Thank you. At this time, we'll conduct our question-and-answer session. If you'd like to ask a question on the phone, press Star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate that your line is in the question queue. You may press Star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. Operator00:17:15As a reminder, you can submit your questions also via the web by typing them in the Ask a Question feature on the left side of your screen. One moment, please, while we pull for questions. Our first question comes from Mickey Legg with The Benchmark Company. Please state your question. Mickey LeggEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company00:17:44Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. I know you were just giving some comments on this, Judd, but if there's any other additional comments or color you could provide on your plans for long-term financing and the options you're considering, if there's anything you could tell us just about how those discussions are progressing or what stage they're in, that would be helpful. Thanks. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:18:11Yeah. No, thanks, Mickey, for your question. As I said, kind of in my prepared remarks, we are focused on what we think is the best for Aqua Metals and what we're trying to do to build out the Sierra Arc facility, which is project financing and debt financing. We do have lenders who fit that criteria that we're engaged with and talking with. Terms have been discussed. There are certain things that we need to do to bring those funds in, and we're working towards those. I can't really give a timeline on it just yet, but those discussions are happening. Mickey LeggEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company00:18:54Okay. Okay. Yeah, that's helpful. Yeah. I'm not going to ask you for a timeline. I understand you can't give that out. Yeah, that's all really relating to this updated plan for the Sierra Arc facility. I just wanted to check in on that, if you could unpack the updated plan a little bit and just remind us if you're still able to reach, let's say, a commissioning point for phase one within a couple of quarters. I think on the last call, you mentioned two to three quarters subject to receiving financing, of course. If you could just get into that a little bit. Thanks. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:19:41Yeah, Mickey. Good question. This is Steve. Yeah, the Sierra Arc is definitely there, the land's there, the building's there, the upfit is complete. Think of it as basically move-in ready. A lot of the equipment is already ordered. We just have decided to be careful to spend that remaining capital until we have that capital financed. Think of it as like a move-in ready facility for the main building. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:20:08Now, with our recent change to improve our value proposition as we talk to these project finance and debtors that are out there, we will put together an additional building that will take care of the feedstock processing as well as the lithium carbonation and some things along those lines. There is now a building that would get built while we've completed the move-in of the existing building. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:20:36That's kind of like what we characterize as an outbuilding. It's not going to be that complex of a build, but it will allow us to get from the 3,000 tons of black mass processing up to the 7,000 tons. With our kind of industry, what we believe is industry low-cost conversion cost, low-cost leading process, coupled with the high-value product of battery-grade lithium carbonate and the MHP as the two primary products at that higher volume, that's what we've been talking to these various project finance and debtors about is that value proposition. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:21:15It's about the same amount of remaining CapEx that we need to complete it, but it does throw off some plant-level EBITDA that we believe sets the company up to be able to service debt or any project financing arrangement. That's hopefully answering your question. Mickey LeggEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company00:21:32Yeah. Yeah. No, definitely. That's very helpful. Yeah, it seems like you're being smart with this reevaluation of how you're scaling up that plant to make sure you're allocating capital as efficiently as possible. The next one I have is you've mentioned a lot of discussions with customers for offtake agreements, co-locations, or potential licensing opportunities. Mickey LeggEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company00:21:59Just curious if you could give us any more details on those discussions, how they're trending given everything that's been going on in the macro. Are people still hungry for some of this domestically produced product? Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:22:17Yeah, for sure. Fortunately, because we have the pilot plant that's been operating for well over a year, effectively two years now, we've been able to produce representative battery-grade examples of those materials and engage with those offtakers, OEMs that are out there. There is a little bit of chicken and the egg factor, which is build it, and then they will come or get them to come so you can build it. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:22:43That's what we're balancing is those feedstock and offtake agreements, particularly the way that the metals markets are gyrating. Not even gyrating. They've come down, and they're expected to go up as we get towards the end of this year and into next year with a little bit of analyst consensus. They're not going to shoot to the moon, but they're going to get to more reasonable levels. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:23:05Those feedstock and offtake agreements go hand in glove with the financing of the build-out of that facility. Because we've got that pilot that's produced, as I mentioned, 600 lbs just in December of battery-grade lithium carbonate that we think is the most recycled battery-grade lithium carbonate that's been ever produced in North America, let alone the U.S., that is what's really enabling these conversations to continue to mature. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:23:33These things take time, and we're just being very careful with our cash on hand and management of CapEx and not get out over our skis by investing further into the completion of that Sierra Arc and that outbuilding until we have all these contracts locked and loaded. Mickey LeggEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company00:23:52Right. Got it. Okay. Yeah. That's helpful and sounds smart. Last one I have here is you mentioned previously some visits from industry leaders and government agencies. We're just curious if there's anything else you could tell us there. How have those discussions been ongoing and if they've led anywhere meaningful? Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:24:17Yeah. We hosted quite a few US government folks last year as well as international. You can look at our social feed and see some of that, inclusive of a big Dutch contingent that came out. Those conversations continue. Of course, there has been a change in administration. The interesting news of late is that there has been an executive order written regarding the urgency of producing critical minerals in the US that we believe we are a perfect fit for. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:24:53We are engaging with the new administration officials on how to have Aqua Metals participate and try to get funds through that mechanism. That would be, in addition to a project finance or a debt-based deal, we still see a great opportunity on government dollars. With the change of administration, these things take time. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:25:19We think that's about one to two quarters for us to really get to some level of resolution. We're encouraged that the tone of the executive order seems to impart urgency. We're pleased to see that because we think it's urgent as well that the U.S. begins to be able to produce these materials. Not only Aqua Metals, but many companies could certainly use some additional help from the government to affect that end. Mickey LeggEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company00:25:46Great. Yeah. I agree. I think that's all very understandable. That's all I have. Thanks, guys. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:25:55Thanks. Judd MerrillCFO at Aqua Metals00:25:55Yeah. Thanks, Mickey. Operator00:25:58Thank you. We will now transition over to Bob Meyers for some additional remarks. Thank you. Bob MeyersHead of Investor Relations at Aqua Metals00:26:04Yes. Thank you. There's a few questions. First question. As a recap of the last year, how would you summarize the current state of Aqua Metals and the potential the company has? Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:26:18Okay. Thanks. That's a good broad question. I'll just do my best to summarize my view on the current state of affairs for Aqua Metals. We've had an interesting and yet very productive year in the past year. We've made really good progress across key strategic priorities that we outlined on our technology and our processes and our commercial partnerships and partnership developments, as well as ongoing initiatives overall for the company. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:26:50We've achieved milestones that we think strengthens the company's future. That includes demonstrating those high recovery rates and purity levels that meet and often exceed the needs of potential partners for battery-grade materials. Also, and this is really important to emphasize, at what we believe is to be the lowest cost for processing those materials. Oftentimes, in the commodities market, low-cost later wins. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:27:18We think because our process doesn't consume all these one-time use chemicals and have all these waste streams that have to be managed and additional labor that we don't need because of the automation and controls with really clean energy jobs for those that are working there, we have that cost advantage, and we've confirmed that. We have the data to back that from the operations of our actual pilot plant. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:27:41We converted recycled domestic nickel into cathode-active material with a downstream partner. That material is literally being tested by top-tier battery manufacturers and vehicle OEMs. These are large global organizations that are also looking to create a domestic supply chain. We continue to strengthen and expand our partnership opportunities and collaborate with other organizations to find new ways to work together. This industry is certainly in a consolidation phase. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:28:13We see opportunities out in the marketplace for us to partner in different ways than we might have even seen a year before. We can't control this uncertainty and the current market dynamics and overall uncertainty as the administration has changed or what folks might or might not be missing when it comes to Aqua Metals' value proposition. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:28:37What we can control is that we can adapt and optimize the company's strategy. That is why we chose to simplify our product set to the battery-grade lithium carbonate and the MHP to get a quicker time to market at a lower cost at a higher volume and better EBITDA margins at the plant level. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:28:56For those corners that we turn that things change, we may be adept and make more adjustments because we are a dynamic and case-hardened company that has that survival and growth instinct incorporated into our own DNA. Bob MeyersHead of Investor Relations at Aqua Metals00:29:17Great. Thank you. The next question. Your recent announcement discussed the change in production, and you talked a little bit about this in your prepared remarks focused on lithium carbonate and MHP. Can you expand on that a bit? Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:29:33Yeah, sure. I'll expand further on that happily. Our competitive advantage is our technology and our know-how, as inclusive of which is our IP, which, as a reminder to everybody, we have over 70 global patents issued, 40-plus patents pending. We continue to expand what we see as this really strong advantage there. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:29:55Our focus on the battery-grade lithium carbonate, which is truly unique to us to not just make technical grade, but actual battery-grade lithium carbonate, as well as a really nickel-rich and clean MHP, we see a faster path to get to revenue with less capital requirements, higher profitability, as I was mentioning, at the plant level, and particularly by being able to upsize the amount of black mass material input by more than double from 3,000 tons to a planned 7,000 tons in the Sierra Arc configuration. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:30:31We view it's much more of it as a stepped approach as the production is part of our technical process. We were essentially already doing all this, and we also are pursuing full metals recycling ultimately as a phase two as the market grows. It is really an adjustment to the near-term approach for the company and giving the market what the market needs and wants today, which is that battery-grade lithium carbonate as well as that MHP, which trades globally kind of as a class one nickel type of material. Bob MeyersHead of Investor Relations at Aqua Metals00:31:09Great. Thank you. Next question. The company added two new board members recently. Can you offer some insights in how those executives have helped with strategic objectives? Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:31:22Yes, certainly. Both of the leaders are talented, experienced executives with great track records of strengthening organizations and growing them with emerging technologies. Eric Gangloff has a really strong financing background. He was in the financing business and debt business for most of his career. He has brought a lot of new perspectives and opportunities for the company. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:31:47Steve Henderson's industry connections are really helping to open doors and certainly add further credibility to our value proposition as we engage with automotive and battery-related OEMs, for which he has relationships with many of them at a very high level with his track record. Both Eric and Steve have already been extremely helpful in supporting some of the recent innovations and the strategic plans for the company, even the tactical plans. We are really glad to have them. Operator00:32:23Thank you. That is all the time we have for questions. I will now hand the floor over to Steve Cotton for closing remarks. Steve CottonPresident and CEO at Aqua Metals00:32:31Great. I really appreciate everybody's time and continued interest in Aqua Metals. We'll continue to keep you guys updated. Stay tuned for updates on our social and other developments between our calls. If you have any questions, please contact our IR partner, FNK, or us directly. We look forward to continued engagement. Everybody have a great rest of the day. We'll talk soon. Operator00:32:58Thank you. With that, we conclude today's conference. All parties may disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesBob MeyersHead of Investor RelationsSteve CottonPresident and CEOJudd MerrillCFOAnalystsMickey LeggEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark CompanyPowered by