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ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Amcor EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.18Consensus EPS $0.18Beat/MissMet ExpectationsOne Year Ago EPS$0.13Amcor Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$3.33 billionExpected Revenue$3.51 billionBeat/MissMissed by -$174.71 millionYoY Revenue Growth-2.30%Amcor Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2025Date4/30/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateWednesday, April 30, 2025Conference Call Time5:30PM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Amcor Q3 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrApril 30, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Well, good day, everyone, and welcome to Amcor's Fiscal twenty twenty five Third Quarter Results Conference. This conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to hand things over to Ms. Tracey Whitehead, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, ma'am. Tracey WhiteheadGlobal Head, Investor Relations at Amcor00:00:14Thank you, operator, and thank you, everyone, for joining Amcor's fiscal twenty twenty five third quarter earnings call. Joining the call today is Peter Konyetzny, Interim Chief Executive Officer and Michael Cacimento, Chief Financial Officer. Before I hand over, let me note a few items. On our website, amcor.com, under the Investors section, you'll find today's press release and presentation, which we'll discuss on the call. Please be aware that we'll also discuss non GAAP financial measures, and related reconciliations can be found in that press release and the presentation. Tracey WhiteheadGlobal Head, Investor Relations at Amcor00:00:50Remarks will also include forward looking statements that are based on management's current views and assumptions. The second slide in today's presentation lists several factors that could cause future results to be different than current estimates. Reference can be made to Amcor's SEC filings, including our statements on Form 10 ks and 10 Q for further details. Please note that during the question and answer session, we request that you limit yourself to a single question and then rejoin the queue if you have any additional questions or follow-up. With that, over to you, PK. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:01:26Thank you, Tracy, and thank you to all who have joined us for today's call. Today is a defining day for Encore as we successfully closed our transformational combination with Berry Global earlier than we anticipated in a record time. Early close means that we are now positioned to accelerate earnings growth through the delivery of significant synergies that are identified and within our control. I want to thank the Amkor and Berry teams for their hard work and dedication over the past months. Together, they have navigated challenges and complexity to accomplish a truly remarkable outcome that positions Amkor for a faster start on synergy delivery and growth. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:02:10As always, on Slide three, we begin with safety, our number one priority. This commitment remains unchanged as we welcome 30,000 new colleagues to Amcor. Our total recordable incident rate, TRIR, fiscal year to date was zero point zero two seven and 69% of our sites have remained injury free for over a year. Our focus on workforce safety and the well-being of our people is resolute, and we continue to achieve industry leading performance. Our key messages for today are on Slide four. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:02:45First, we continue to deliver EPS growth in Q3, reflecting disciplined execution and resilience in a demand environment that became more variable and uncertain as the quarter progressed, particularly for our North American business. Second, as I mentioned, the Berry combination closed ahead of schedule. It took less than six months from announcement to close, during which time we secured shareholder approvals, completed the necessary refinancing, including a multibillion dollar debt offering and obtained unconditional approval from regulators in all required jurisdictions. As a result, our earnings and cash flow guidance has also been updated to reflect expectations for the combined company in the fourth quarter. And third, our early close also means we will enter fiscal twenty twenty six in an even better position with confidence the synergy run rate will start strong and build quickly through the year. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:03:43The source of synergies has been identified. Our execution plans are clearly set out and within our control, and synergies alone give us clear visibility to significant total earnings accretion of approximately 12%. Turning to Slide five. As we begin integration, our focus is clear: deliver identified synergies and grow faster. Experience with previous acquisition tells us that having clear accountability and alignment from day one is critical to our success. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:04:15This combination brought together two extraordinary pools of talent, and we are fortunate to have a team of leaders in place with significant functional, operational and industry expertise. Our business is organized around two segments: Amkor's global flexibles business is being led by Fred Stefan, who has many years of experience within Amkor leading large scale flexible packaging businesses And Jean Marc Alves, former President of Berry's Consumer Packaging International division is leading Amkor's global containers and closures business. Fred and Jean Marc are well supported by world class functional leaders and dedicated integration teams with separate work streams focusing on capturing cost, financial and growth synergies. Slide six provides a recap of the highly compelling rationale for this combination and the alignment with our strategy to become the packaging partner of choice for customers, while also delivering stronger, more consistent and sustainable organic growth and further improving margins. There are a number of growth unlocks now available. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:05:23The combined company is a better business with a complementary and broader portfolio of primary packaging solutions at scale across consumer goods and health care end markets. In the context of a stronger, larger scale company, we are now uniquely positioned to further refine our portfolio mix to focus even more on attractive higher value faster growing end markets. With further pruning, we will increase average growth rates, margins and cash generation across the remaining portfolio, and we continue to advance our work on this review. In addition, Amkor has exceptional and now enhanced capabilities in material science and innovation, providing opportunities to drive growth by effectively and efficiently leveraging our combined resources. With more than 1,500 R and D professionals and annual R and D investment of approximately €180,000,000 we can now optimize and redirect R and D spend, providing capacity to focus on solving the most complex functionality and sustainability challenges faced by our customers and consumers. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:06:32Executing against these growth opportunities and delivering the significant identified synergies is largely within our control and will drive compelling near and long term value for shareholders. Turning to synergies on Slide seven. The work our integration teams have already completed gives us confidence in delivering €650,000,000 of synergies, which will result in significant earnings growth over the next three years. Approximately 40% of total synergies or €260,000,000 is expected to benefit fiscal twenty twenty six earnings. A further €260,000,000 of synergies will benefit earnings in fiscal twenty twenty seven with a balance in fiscal twenty twenty eight, leading to total EPS accretion in excess of 35% over the three year period. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:07:22In addition, we expect onetime cash benefits of €280,000,000 from working capital improvements, which will fund costs to achieve. Finally, on Slide eight and the compelling sustainable financial value we're creating. Including synergies, annual cash flow available to reinvest will exceed $3,000,000,000 each year by fiscal twenty twenty eight and will enable us to maintain a strong investment grade balance sheet, deploy additional cash to support higher levels of organic volume driven growth, finance further M and A and continue funding a compelling and growing dividend from Amkor's current annualized base of $0.51 per share. With stronger cash generation and greater opportunities to invest, we also expect to increase long term EPS growth and raise the outcomes under our shareholder value creation model to a new and higher level. Simply put, this combination is a game changer for Amkor's financial profile and provides self help earnings growth opportunities at a time of increasing uncertainty in the macro environment. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:08:35Moving to Slide nine for a summary of our third quarter financial results. Overall volumes were in line with last year with modest share gains offset by weaker consumer and customer demand. As Michael will cover in more detail, there were a number of puts and takes across our regions. Volume growth in the low to mid single digit range in each of Europe, Asia Pacific and Latin America was offset by weaker than anticipated consumer demand in our North American businesses, including North America Beverage. Notwithstanding the increasingly dynamic consumer environment, Q3 saw continued growth across key financial metrics with net sales of CHF 3,300,000,000.0 and EBIT of CHF $384,000,000, both marginally higher than last year. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:09:23We also delivered another quarter of adjusted EPS growth, up 5% on a comparable basis, benefiting from a continued focus on cost as well as improving health care volumes, which benefited price mix trends as anticipated. I'll now turn the call over to Michael to cover the third quarter results and our updated outlook in more detail. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:09:44Thanks, Piket, and hello, everyone. Beginning with the Flexibles segment on Slide 10. Volumes for the quarter were up 1% on last year. Modest share gains in several important categories, including health care and protein, were partly offset by weaker consumer demand primarily in North America. Overall demand remained solid through the quarter in Europe, Asia and Latin America, with each region achieving low to mid single digit volume growth. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:10:11China and India continued to deliver mid single mid to high single digit growth, and volumes were up across most countries in Latin America. As Peekay mentioned earlier, the demand environment in North America became more variable and uncertain as the quarter progressed. North America volumes were down low single digits, which was lower than we anticipated heading into the third quarter, including in Snacks and Confectionery and Home and Personal Care categories. From an end market perspective, we continue to see good growth in a number of our priority markets. Pet Care, premium coffee and ready meals continue to grow strongly. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:10:47And volumes in meat, dairy and liquids were up low to mid single digits, benefiting in part from modest share gains. Healthcare volumes continuing to improve sequentially. Medical volumes were up in the high single digits. And as expected, demand for pharmaceutical packaging improved significantly as destocking is now essentially behind us. Strength in these categories more than offset volume declines in end markets such as snacks and confectionery and home personal care, which were both down low single digits. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:11:19Improved healthcare volumes supported a return to favorable pricemix, and overall net sales were up 1% on a comparable constant currency basis. Adjusted EBIT of $358,000,000 grew 2% on a comparable constant currency basis, benefiting from the higher volumes and continued strong cost performance. And EBIT margin for the quarter remained strong at 13.7%, broadly in line with last year. Turning to Rigid Packaging on Slide 11. The Rigids business had a more challenging quarter as solid growth in Latin America in Specialty Containers was more than offset by weaker than anticipated consumer and custom demand in North American Beverage. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:11:59Net sales were approximately 3% lower than last year, reflecting a 2% decline in overall volumes and an unfavorable impact from pricemix of approximately 1%. Entering the quarter, we anticipated continued soft demand in North American Beverage. However, consumer and customer demand across our key categories weakened further, resulting in a high single digit volume decline. Latin American volumes were up mid single digits and growth was strong in several countries and regions, including Mexico and Central America. And volumes were higher in the Specialty Containers business with growth in Healthcare end markets. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:12:37From an earnings perspective, adjusted EBIT of £55,000,000 for the quarter no longer includes any contribution from the Bericap joint venture, which was divested in December 2024. Bericap benefited Rigid Packaging segment earnings by approximately £5,000,000 in the third quarter last year. Now on a comparable basis, EBIT was unfavorably impacted by lower volumes and price mix headwinds. This was partly offset by favorable cost performance net of sequentially higher labor costs in the North American Beverage business. And it's typical for manning capacity to increase in the March as the business approaches the seasonally strongest June, and this had an unfavorable impact on earnings for the quarter given the lower anticipated volumes lower than anticipated volumes. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:13:24Moving to cash flow on the balance sheet on Slide 12. On a year to date basis, the business had a net cash outflow of £17,000,000 which is lower than we expected and compares with a cash inflow of £115,000,000 last year. The key driver of this underperformance is higher inventories as a result of weaker sales volumes in the March. In response, we have significantly increased our team's focus on working capital performance, and we are prioritizing inventory reductions to a level that is more aligned with the expected demand. Leverage of 3.5 times is higher than we were anticipating due to stronger euro spot rates towards the end of the quarter, which negatively impacted leverage by 0.1 times as well as higher quarter end net debt. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:14:10We expect to exit fiscal twenty twenty five with leverage at approximately 3.4 times inclusive of acquisition impacts, and we remain confident in bringing leverage down to approximately 3x by the end of fiscal twenty twenty six. This trajectory is aligned with expectations we set out when the merger was announced in November. Our teams did an excellent job completing the required refinancing of Berry Global debt prior to transaction close and ahead of this current period of increased volatility in financial markets. Finally, the company has returned five fifty million pounds in cash to shareholders through a growing dividend and the Board of Directors today declared the March dividend of $12.75 per share, which is 2% higher than the same quarter last year. This brings me to the outlook on Slide 13. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:15:01As we look ahead into the fourth quarter, we are not anticipating any improvement in the overall demand environment and we believe this is a particularly prudent approach given current macroeconomic conditions and uncertainty around tariff impacts on consumers and customers. As a result, we expect overall Q4 volume growth to remain muted and aligned with the March. That said, with the successful early close of the merger, we have taken into account two months of Berry ownership and we continue to expect earnings for fiscal twenty twenty five within our original guidance range. Heading into the final quarter of the year, we are narrowing our outlook range for adjusted EPS to $0.72 to $0.74 per share on a reported basis. This takes into account two months of earnings from the legacy Berry business as well as additional shares issued upon close, which results in a net accretion of up to $01 per share. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:15:57In terms of free cash flow, we expect a range of 900,000,000 to £1,000,000,000 for the year, which also includes a contribution from the legacy Berry business. Importantly, as Peekay mentioned earlier, before we even consider assumptions around organic performance for fiscal twenty twenty six, we have clear visibility to significant EPS growth of approximately 12% through delivery of £260,000,000 of synergies alone, which is not dependent on improving macroeconomics, customer or consumer demand. We're excited about the opportunities ahead and confident in our ability to execute on the controllables and deliver significant value to shareholders in FY 2026 and beyond. So with that, I'll hand back to you, P. K. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:16:41Thanks, Vinci. To sum up before taking questions, with an enhanced global footprint, expanded capabilities across Consumer and Healthcare Packaging and a clear road map to significant synergies over the next three years, Amkor is well positioned to deliver value to our stakeholders despite an increasingly uncertain external environment. We are thrilled to welcome our new colleagues, customers and shareholders. This is day one of an even stronger future for Amkor and the best is yet to come. Operator, we're now ready to take questions. Operator00:17:16Thank you, sir. Our first question today comes from Ghansham Panjabi, Baird. Ghansham PanjabiSenior Research Analyst at Baird00:17:30Thank you, operator. Good day, everybody. Congrats on the merger close first off. I guess on the progressive deceleration in North American volumes that you called out, maybe you can just share with us what customers are sharing with you as it relates to the sequential weakening. And the reason I ask is volumes were already at their low point to begin with given previous destocking, consumer affordability issues and all that stuff. Ghansham PanjabiSenior Research Analyst at Baird00:17:52So what got worse do you think? And related to that, was Berry's volume profile any different than what you reported? Thank you. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:17:59Yes. Thanks, Ghansham. Really good questions. And let me start with what we're seeing in North America. First off, just to position that and put it into perspective, we went into the quarter with an expectation of low to mid single digit volume growth across the board. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:18:14And we came out of the quarter seeing that we pretty much hit that expectation everywhere except in North America. So that was the holdback. In North America, we have seen real weakness on the consumer demand, particularly hitting our North American Beverage business, which was down high single digits and therefore softer than what we had seen in the prior quarter, where it was down about mid single digit. And we've also seen some weakness in our North American Flexibles business, which was driven by categories that can be more discretionary, for example, beverage and confectionery. Unconfectionery also keep in mind that we're seeing a lot of inflation coming from the cocoa environment. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:19:00While that was offset with some categories where we've seen growth in Healthcare, Meat, Dairy and Liquids, That was essentially the overall story for North America, weaker than what we expected. I just want to make one more comment. As you pointed that out, volumes have been low. And in the past quarters, certainly driven by destocking, which, however, reduced over time. The restocking is now behind us. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:19:31What we're seeing now is no longer an impact from destocking. What we're seeing now is really soft consumer demand, which I'd say really goes back to sticky inflation. We called that out in earlier calls. And then in the third quarter or the first quarter of this calendar year, certainly, the whole uncertainty around the tariff situation has had an impact. Operator00:19:54Our next question is Anthony Pettinari, Citi. Anthony PettinariAnalyst at Citigroup00:19:59Good afternoon. You pointed to the 20% synergy driven EPS growth assumption for fiscal twenty twenty six. And I think you talked about that take it's before taking into account any organic performance in the underlying business. I guess a couple of questions there. Is there an underlying assumption that organic growth is going to be positive in fiscal twenty twenty six? Anthony PettinariAnalyst at Citigroup00:20:26Or are you not really making any assumptions at all? And maybe to kind of ask the question another way, if we are in a much more challenging macro environment in fiscal twenty twenty six, can you talk about your ability or your confidence in achieving the synergies in a tougher macro environment? Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:20:48Okay, Anthony. I may want to start here, then I'm sure that Michael is going to build. Before I get back to your question, let me just finish off the other question from Gansham that I didn't answer, and he actually asked a question about the Berry volume performance. Look, it's a little early for me to be across all the details of the volume performance in the last quarter because we just closed the acquisition right now. But from a higher level, we're very excited about better growth performance on the Berry side. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:21:19And I think the answer lies in mix with regards to customer exposure and category exposure. Keep in mind that North American Beverage is not a category that Berry operates in. So it's mix genshum, and I just wanted to make sure that I covered that off. Now Anthony, to your question, your question was sort of volume guidance for 2026 and what we're assuming for 2024 and what we sort of believe the macroeconomic environment is like. Let start there. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:21:54We already in our prepared comments, we said that at this point in time, we're really just guiding towards the end of this fiscal year, which includes Q4. And the way that we look at this is that we would never make drastically different assumptions in terms of the macroeconomic environment on a very short period of time. So going from Q3 to Q4, you would always see us pretty much roll forward the macroeconomic environment that we operate in. So we've seen flat volume growth overall on the Amcor side. We've seen a bit of growth on the Berry side. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:22:35We're going to get two months of contribution from Berry in the fourth quarter, and that will get you to a pretty much flat to slightly up volume performance expectation for the fourth quarter. That's the way how we triangulate ourselves into the fourth quarter in terms of volumes. Now with regards to '26, we're not going to guide today for '26. We typically do that in August. But what we're pointing to here is that we have a lot of benefits from the combination with Berry. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:23:11And we have an ability because we have been able to close the acquisition in record time to get our hands around and our arms around the synergy opportunities two months earlier than what we thought. And that will set us up really for a great opportunity to get out of the blocks for 2026 really fast. And we have a high level of confidence in the ability to generate the synergies in year one, which is fiscal twenty twenty six and which amounts to €260,000,000 And just if you do the math, that creates an EPS uplift of 12%. I'll stop there and see if Michael wants to add anything Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:23:53I think think in cover to PK, we, you know, we feel pretty pretty really confident around the ability to deliver those synergies, and it's not contingent on the macroeconomic environment or the consumer or customer demand. And in fact, for Amcor, we see that as a real advantage because we've got self help in the form of those synergies. So, you know, out of the gates, as DK mentioned, we've we've closed earlier that, you know, we've got good line of sight. The teams, you know, have been working on this synergy delivery by functions, and we've got four functional teams set up across, you know, SG and A and procurement operations and growth, you know, dedicated teams working on that. And, you know, we're going to hit the ground running. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:24:34And, you know, so from July 1, we're really confident around the ability to deliver there. Operator00:24:40Our next question is from Daniel Kang, CLSA. Daniel KangHead of Basic Industrials, Australian Equities Research at CLSA Limited00:24:47Morning, P. K. Good morning, Mike. Just an extension on the synergies commentary. So two sixty million dollars in FY 2026. Daniel KangHead of Basic Industrials, Australian Equities Research at CLSA Limited00:24:57Just wondering if you can categorize the breakdown of that, particularly with regards to procurement. I'm just interested in how the preliminary discussions have gone with key raw material suppliers. Any color you can shed on that would be much appreciated. Thank you. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:25:17Yes. I'll start on that one, Daniel. Look, I mean, the $260,000,000 synergies, broke out as we said, we've broken out the $650,000,000 over three years, a portion from procurement, SG and A and operations and growth. In '26, I mean, clearly, out of the gates, your focus and ability to deliver is first and foremost comes from the G and A side. So that's typically the first phase you get on to. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:25:46Procurement will deliver as well, and that will build through the first twelve months and into the second year. And then the operations side typically takes a little longer because that's footprint optimization. That said, we've already identified some areas where we've got overlap. So again, teams have been working on that and we'll hit the ground running, but they tend to take a little bit more just because you've got to move network around, etcetera. And then look on the growth synergies, again, that's something that typically takes a little longer, but again, a dedicated team on that. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:26:17So we haven't called out exactly the mix of the synergies, Daniel, but that kind of gives you a flavor that SG and A typically comes first, procurement comes through and we'll build and then you get into the operations and the growth. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:26:30Yes. And if I add to that, Daniel, I mean, didn't provide and we're not intending to provide a detailed breakdown of the $260,000,000 in the first year, but Michael gave you some quality here. There's no question that procurement will be a major contributor. You asked how things are going so far in the conversations. Look, we may have had some touch points with suppliers, but the level of engagement around that question has been really on a high level. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:27:01And that is understandable because we haven't even closed the acquisition yet. And the suppliers are not really interested to engage in that conversation unless there's something real on the table. So we'll go into that, I think, a lot more from here on. That said, the teams have been doing all the work that you would expect them to do. We have clean teams set up that actually have been looking at details. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:27:31And all the work has really resulted in a point where we say we're pretty confident with the ability to deliver. Operator00:27:41The next question comes from Matt Roberts, Raymond James. Matthew RobertsEquity Research Analyst at Raymond James Financial00:27:47Hey, good afternoon. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for the time and congratulations on the completion of the merger. PK, maybe on portfolio pruning that you did discuss, given that there's weakness in industrial end markets or just broader uncertainty in demand in general in the M and A environment, how has your idea of timing around that pruning changed from when the merger was announced to now? Or when can we expect incremental color on that portfolio review? Matthew RobertsEquity Research Analyst at Raymond James Financial00:28:18Thanks for taking the question. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:28:20No, that's thanks, Matt. I was for a couple of calls, I've been very explicit that a little more dynamic portfolio management is an opportunity for the business, even more so now that we have combined ourselves with Berry. I have mentioned before that we have kicked that analysis off. And what we're doing there is just simply taking all of our activities, and we're assessing that against certain criteria, and we've made some really good progress around it. Now the first thing that I will say is we will have to take a look at that assessment in the context of the new combined entity that we're looking at. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:29:06We have a significant synergy opportunity that we will capture. We have more capabilities at our hands. We can learn from each other in terms of best practices, and that may have an impact on our assessment of the different businesses and their ability to compete and be successful in the areas where they operate. That's the one thing. The second thing is, you mentioned also the current environment that we're operating in. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:29:34Now the environment will not stop us on the initiative per se. So we're going to move on and we're going to get the assessment done. And if really what's behind your question is a question on timing, when can we execute against that, That's a really hard one to answer, I would say, at this point. Things are changing by the day. And the only thing that I can really point to is that we'll continue to be that we will be very disciplined around anything that we do on that end. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:30:03That's something that I can promise. Operator00:30:07We'll take the next question today from Jacob Kacarnes, Jardan Australia. Jacob, your line is open. Please check your mute button. Jakob CakarnisManaging Director, Equity Research at Jarden Australia Pty Limited00:30:22Sorry, excuse me, Hi, Peter. Hi, Michael. I was just going to focus on the procurement synergies if I could, please. They're 60% of the overall cost synergies that you guys are targeting. Michael and Peter, if I understood correctly, you were saying that that relied on a combined entity to have those discussions with the suppliers. Jakob CakarnisManaging Director, Equity Research at Jarden Australia Pty Limited00:30:40So I guess if you could step us through for '26 is the priority, a harmonization of those supplier terms? And then as we turned our minds to '27 and '28 to hit those EPS accretion targets, is it more about drilling down into the terms of that procurement and potentially looking for some pricing benefits given your new scale, please? Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:31:03Yes, Jacob, I'll have a go at this. I mean the way it works, having been through these acquisitions of large scales a couple of times with Amcor, there's a very general principle, which is get to the synergies fast or never. So I'm not sure that you pace yourself in the conversations with suppliers when you particularly look at procurement. You need to wait until you can represent the combined spend. That's what I meant in my earlier answer. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:31:36As long as the acquisition is not closed, you don't really have a leg to stand on when you enter into the conversation. Now that, that's the case, we can enter into the conversations and have the discussions with our suppliers. And that is what's going to happen. And as we start those discussions, it will be around across everything. It will be across price. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:32:02It will be across terms. It will be across a number of different things. And then we'll try to make progress as quickly as possible against that. I think that's the way I would want to answer that question. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:32:14And I think if I just add there, Pike, to put it in perspective, if you remember again, the total addressable spend for the combined entity is around $13,000,000,000 of which $10,000,000,000 is raw materials. So when you put that into perspective, it's kind of a 2.5% to 3% impact that we're expecting from the procurement area for the synergy. That's 1% a year. It's something that's absolutely achievable from where we sit. Operator00:32:47George Staphos from Bank of America is up next. George StaphosManaging Director at Bank of America Merrill Lynch00:32:53Hi, everyone. Good morning. Good afternoon. Thanks for the details. Are you? George StaphosManaging Director at Bank of America Merrill Lynch00:32:59My question is going to focus on growth kind of tying together a lot of what's already been sort of talked about. So can you, P. K, tell us what in particular in the consumer environment and certainly, there's been the volatility with tariffs and so on, but how has that affected your customers' outlook on demand when in reality, they're producing staples, you know, confectionery items, protein, coffee? How is all the volatility in things that are much more discretionary kind of filtering back into what your customers are are thinking about in terms of their outlook for growth? And you need to be, I'm sure, thinking about that because the growth or lack of it is an important variable in terms of your valuation over time. George StaphosManaging Director at Bank of America Merrill Lynch00:33:54Relatedly to that, what your customers are saying, with the growth outlook decelerating, I recognize you're only a few days into owning Berry. What would you say the probabilities are and what levers will you use to perhaps see whether those synergy targets are at least achievable, if not conservative at this juncture. You already mentioned that as a percentage of the overall spend, the procurement spend, the revenue of the company, which is over $20,000,000,000 is a relatively small percentages. So how should we think about how you'll be able to leverage perhaps grow that synergy target, especially with volume growth being relatively flaccid at the moment? Thank you and good luck in the quarter. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:34:42Thanks, George. There was a lot in that question. Let me try to bucket it up in two parts, and I'll invite Michael to come in to share his views too. The first one was, if I understood it correctly, a question of how our customers are performing in this environment and how the uncertainty sort of drives their growth performance. And that obviously is, for us, a major factor because our customers' demand drive essentially our ability to sell. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:35:15So we're trying to be close to our customers in order to understand that. I think if I take a step back, the uncertainty that we have particularly seen in the last quarter in North America is really has really driven weakening consumer demand. That's sort of the source of the issue. And when you go and try to understand the consumer, you will find the consumer change their behaviors in terms of seeking value, in terms of thinking very carefully about where to spend money. And what you typically see is that the consumers buy less where they have an opportunity to do so. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:35:55And where you come to the essentials, they would buy different. They buy different in terms of trading down, buying bulk, going to different channels. And that's all of that is what we're seeing and what the customers are seeing. And from what I've seen and what I've heard from the customers, that is very much aligned with what our customers are actually seeing. Now that's the one thing that drives the customers. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:36:24And everybody has uncertainty right now in forecasting demand scenarios. And there is a lot of volatility out there, which makes it really hard. And in some cases, we get volume forecasts from our customers, which do not materialize. And we need to deal with that as part of the value chain like everybody else does. But that's the situation that we're seeing. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:36:52That's bucket number one. Let me stop there and see if I ask Michael if he wants to add anything to that. No? Okay. Then I get to the bucket number two, which was more about the question of in this environment, how do we think about synergies and synergy outperformance particularly. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:37:12Look, we have been very transparent around the amount of synergies that we expect, which is the CHF $650,000,000 over a period of three years. We have made some comments around how we face that across the years, and we are now currently working on translating that. We have good pipelines in place for every single bucket of those synergies to go after them. I would say, in some cases, the pipelines would suggest that we have more opportunities than what we were thinking about, but they would have to translate in the current environment. So I'm not comfortable of driving any different expectations than what we have announced. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:38:07And I would also not lock myself into a breakdown by bucket for those synergies. But overall, again, we sit here today, and we're pretty confident that we can get that done. The final point that I will make is, let's not forget, this is a very volatile situation out there. We have created a situation in North America in a very short period of time by driving uncertainty around the whole tariff situation. And again, even that situation is very volatile. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:38:41So we may sit here again in a couple of quarters and look at a different situation that presents itself to ourselves and that will drive a different view in terms of the operating environment. But all of that will not change our expectations on the synergies. It's been a bit of a long winded answer here, George. I'm sorry for that. But I hope I sort of addressed the underlying question that you had on your mind. Operator00:39:15The next question will come from Brook Campbell Crawford from Berenberg. Brook Campbell-CrawfordAnalyst at Barrenjoey00:39:23Just Brook Campbell-CrawfordAnalyst at Barrenjoey00:39:26one on the North America beverage business. You've called that high single digit decline in volume, I think it was, in the quarter on a year over year basis. And I guess just looking through that, it seems to look like EBIT for North America Beverage will be down sort of 20% or so year over year. So could you maybe just provide a comment if that's a sensible assumption? And given that, is there any sort of structural issues going on in that business that need to be discussed at this point? Brook Campbell-CrawfordAnalyst at Barrenjoey00:40:00Yes. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:40:02Let me start with that, Birx, and try to be more pointed on that question. When I'll start by just contextualizing the volume performance that we've seen, high single digits down. I want to make clear that this is pretty much exactly aligned with what we see in the market. So the point of what I just said is, it's not an issue of share or share loss. When you look at Canada and North America, you take a look at the categories or the subcategories that we participate in and you keep in mind our customer exposure, you can pretty much triangulate yourself into the performance of volumes that we've seen in the quarter. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:40:44So that's the first thing. The second thing is I'll let Michael comment on how that translates into the bottom line. You also asked a question of is there a structural element to that business? We have had this we've owned this business for a long period of time, and we have seen a number of cycles in the past. This is a long cycle and an extended cycle, but a lot of things are sort of happening around us, and they have different drivers. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:41:11We, at this point in time, are still not ready to call it structural. And it doesn't take much volumes to come back and to improve the overall performance of the business. Michael, if you want to talk to the Yes. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:41:26To follow-up on that, I yes, in terms of the EBIT performance, Brook, yes, I mean, the first thing that we have to take into account is that the prior year EBIT includes the Berrycap business, which we disposed in December 2024. So that was about a $5,000,000 contribution to EBIT in the prior year. So obviously, we don't have that in the current year. And then the rigid overall performance was down about 12% comparable constant currency basis. You know, and that was really driven by the volume decline, particularly in North American beverage. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:41:59And in addition to that, we have we did build some labor into the business in quarter three, and we would typically do that ahead you know, build some manning up ahead of the busy season in the June to be able to manage the increased demand there. But obviously, with the we put that in place, but with the softer than expected volume performance in the quarter, that did have an impact on the cost base of the business, which impacted the bottom line in the quarter. So that's really what drove the 12% decline year on year. We would expect some improvement on that as we head into Q4. Operator00:42:41Up next, we'll take a question from Jon Pertel of Macquarie Group. John PurtellDivisional Director, Senior Analyst at Macquarie Group00:42:47Day, Peter and Michael. Hope you're well. Just a comment on or a question around sort of volumes within the quarter. Perhaps what you saw within the quarter and any comment you can make on April, which sort of goes to a broader question about your expectations for Q4 and some of the moving parts within that? Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:43:13Yes, John. I sort of mentioned that before, but let me summarize it again. I guess the new part is that we have seen throughout the quarter the consumer demand weakening. I think that's a fair comment. I'm not a big fan of discussing volume performance month by month. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:43:29And I've said that before, I don't think that helps a lot. But in this particular case, I think there is there was an element of weakening demand through the quarter. I will say again, a very much different portfolio between the different regions, a pretty solid demand in terms of our expectations of low to mid single digits everywhere else. But in North America, we've seen the weakening. Now as I said before, the way how we go into the fourth quarter is very much aligned with what we've seen in the third quarter. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:44:03We're expecting from an Amcor side overall flat volumes. And Berry came in with a bit of growth in the third quarter, which we were happy to see. We'll see two months of contribution of Berry in the fourth quarter assuming now on the same principle, assuming that to sort of continue, you would get the fourth quarter for something to something that is flat to slightly growing. Operator00:44:33The next question today is Mike Roxland, Truist Securities. Michael RoxlandMD - Equity Research at Truist Securities00:44:38Yes. Thank you, P. K, Michael, Tracy, even for taking my questions. And congrats on closing the deal and on all the progress. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:44:46Thanks, Mike. Michael RoxlandMD - Equity Research at Truist Securities00:44:48Just I wanted to focus on synergies. Not to be a dead horse here, but I wanted to follow-up with you regarding the procurement savings of three twenty five million both you and Barry are some of the largest purchasers globally of resins. I don't believe there's a direct overlap maybe in some of the grades. I think you guys may be more heavier to PET, Barry may be heavier to the polypropylene. There is some overlap on polyethylene. Michael RoxlandMD - Equity Research at Truist Securities00:45:19But so there is you'll have direct overlap in some things. In addition, the resin producers themselves are under pressure, and I think maybe some are looking to offer notable price concessions given the financial difficulties there in Catherine. So we'd just love to get your thoughts about how you intend to approach the procurement savings, particularly in a more challenging environment on resin. And then secondly, can you remind us about the vetting process you undertook regarding the cost synergies? How did you determine that these figures were the correct figures in terms of synergies themselves? Michael RoxlandMD - Equity Research at Truist Securities00:45:52Thank you. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:45:54Yes, Michael, I'll start out and then maybe Michael wants to build. And I want to go back to a couple of those data points that we had discussed on prior calls. Michael already mentioned the combined spend of the companies is €13,000,000,000 10 billion euros of that relates to raw materials. If you hold that against the expected synergies, you get yourself into the range of something like 3% that we're expecting over a three year period. And that's and that, of course, needs to go on top of what we typically produce on in year. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:46:32But that's not a tremendous expectation on the procurement synergies. So that's just to contextualize. And we've said that before, and that's and we're very consistent on that. The second thing that you said is, it's very complementary. And there is a bit of overlap, but to a large extent, particularly on the resin side, it's pretty complementary. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:46:54And that's actually good because we see Berry, for example, being much stronger on the polypropylene side, Amkur is much stronger on the PET and PE side. And that sets us up for an opportunity to just harmonize terms with the larger buyer. And that was one of the levers that we have always been expecting. And with all the work that we've done, we feel pretty confident that, that's an opportunity for us. So that's the way how we approach that. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:47:31And then maybe the final point is how do we think about generating those synergies in a tougher environment? My expectation is if we are in a volume muted environment, a large buyer has quite a bit of attractiveness to the supply base because we're able to bring critical volumes in order to help load capacities, existing capacities. And the very final point that I will make is we do have alternatives. We do have alternatives. It's not that we're locked in one or two suppliers only. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:48:07We do have alternatives, and that's what we need to leverage. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:48:12And Mike, if I just pick up on your second question the second part of the question, which is around just a reminder of how we came about the synergy number and shrew that up. I mean, we put a lot of work in behind the scenes on this on both sides actually on the Berry and Amcor side. Obviously, we've both got a lot of experience in M and A. We used external consultants to help us benchmark what you should expect, you know, the deal of this size and the various components relating to that. You know, we've had the integration teams in place. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:48:40So we stress tested that along the way. And I mean, typically, you would see synergy delivery in these type of deals somewhere around the 5% of sales would be the cost synergies. And, you know, that's where we've ended up around if you just take the cost synergies line of $530,000,000 you then got $60,000,000 of growth and $60,000,000 of financial. So, you know, when we triangulated that from all different ways and broke it out by the various components, you know, we felt really confident around the ability to deliver that number. Operator00:49:13And your next question comes from Keith Chow, MST Financial. Keith ChauResearch Analyst at MST Financial00:49:20TK. Hi, Michael. So just back on the procurement synergies, I guess, the point that some are trying to get to on this call like us, a 3% savings for Amcor over three years may not sound like a lot, but to some of these suppliers where margins are EBIT margins are, call it, 10 to 15%, you're talking about the 300% I'm sorry, 300 basis point haircut to the EBIT margin. So I guess the extent to which you can drive procurement synergies and maybe go to alternative suppliers that sometimes play ball, I just want to refer back to a letter or an email that was sent to your suppliers on the April 16 where you've asked them to meet in Chicago. First One is it sounds like a bit more of a directive rather than a partnership going forward. Keith ChauResearch Analyst at MST Financial00:50:12But I just wanna understand how many suppliers have responded to their email or letter? How many do you expect or proportionately you know, what proportion of your suppliers do you expect to turn up to that meeting? And what are the consequences to those suppliers if they don't play ball? And perhaps an extension to that is what proportion of your raw materials can you have alternate sourcing given the size of the two combined businesses? And Pico, look, I get the point that you've been involved in a lot of these large acquisitions, but this one is particularly big. Keith ChauResearch Analyst at MST Financial00:50:48You. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:50:49No, Keith, I you've sort of said all the right things. This one is particularly big, and I've been involved in some of the larger acquisitions. And that's why I'm going to have to tell you, I can't really get any further into that conversation. We have a playbook, and some of those conversations are obviously very sensitive with the suppliers. And we're going to handle it in a very respectful manner. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:51:15And we have a business interest to represent here and that's what we're going to do. So understand the question, but would understand also and would ask for some understanding that this is really a level of detail that I don't want to handle on this call. Operator00:51:36We'll move to Nathan Riley, UBS. Nathan ReillyExecutive Director at UBS Group00:51:43Thanks for taking my question. Look, we've been hearing a little bit more about the North American consumers' sort of value seeking behaviors right now. So can you please talk to how your merged flexibles portfolio is positioned to respond to that shift in consumer behavior, just particularly in terms of any shift to private label, smaller portion sizes or anything else we should be thinking out on that shift in behavior, please? Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:52:07Yes, Nathan, this is a good one. We see a couple of things that we can respond to. And the one that I want to carve out here is when you think about value seeking behavior in the direction of going potentially to non branded product alternatives. That is something like on the private label side, that's certainly something that you could expect the consumers to do. We have a good participation in that category. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:52:37In North America, we're pretty much proportionally represented. And the reality is that the packaging formats that we're actually selling, whether it's branded or private label, are very similar. They end up being very similar. So one of the things that we take away from that is expanding our participation in those areas where consumers will turn to. And that is certainly something that we do. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:53:10Again, North America, that is pretty well established. In other regions, we may have some opportunities here and there, and we would be driving that. Operator00:53:23Next up is Sam Siew, Citi. Sam SeowVice President at Citi00:53:28Thanks guys. Appreciate you taking the question. Just on North American Beverage. Just wondering is there any numbers you can give us around the net exposure of North American Beverage in the combined business? And going forward, when you think about pruning, is that just dairy businesses you're looking at? Sam SeowVice President at Citi00:53:45Or is there some ample segments there as well? Thanks. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:53:49So if I go backwards, we're definitely looking at pruning of the portfolio in the context of the combined company. So that's a new Amkor going forward. It has nothing to do with carving out either legacy Berry or legacy Amkor. So that's a clear answer on the second question. On the first one, I'm not sure I fully understood the question, but I just want to make very clear, the Containers and Closures business from Berry has no participation in the North American Beverage category. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:54:20That's an Amcor question. Let me just see with Michael here if he heard the question differently. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:54:27Yes. No. That's right. I think the exposure on the beverage side for us, you know, is really the Amcor legacy Amcor business has, you know, 1,500,000,000.0 kind of revenue on into the beverage space, and there really is nothing. So that's the exposure. Operator00:54:54We'll take the next question from Cameron MacDonald, E and P. Cameron McDonaldMD - Head of Research at E&P00:55:00Good morning. Just wanted to touch on the below the line costs. So with the early integration of Berry, it looks like you've taken $26,000,000 already below the line. What's the expectation for that relative into the fourth quarter? And can we confirm then that that's including that that that is part of the 280 so that in FY twenty six and beyond that whatever is incurred in this quarter and the next quarter is a reduction to that $2.80 in the following years? Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:55:38Yeah. Look, just to put some clarity on that, we there's a couple of things going on in that line. So firstly, there's transaction costs. And for a deal of this size, you know, you'd expect the transaction cost kind of 1.5% to 2% of the enterprise value. So call it two fifty million to $300,000,000 part of which would end up in the Berry perimeter and the balance in Amcor. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:55:59So what we've seen to date, bottom line, I think there's about $36,000,000 in that year to date of which $28 to 30,000,000 is actual transaction costs. So that's things like legal fees, consultant fees, financing charges. So we've got more of that to come through, and that will come through in the next couple of quarters. And then in addition to that, over the three year period, we're going to have around $280,000,000 of cash costs relating to the cost to achieve the synergies, again, which we'll call those out as we progress that over the term. Operator00:56:36Next up, we'll take a question from Arun Viswanathan, RBC Capital Markets. Arun ViswanathanSenior Equity Analyst at RBC Capital Markets00:56:44Great. Thanks for taking my question. Congrats on closing the merger. I guess I had two questions. So first off, going back to the growth side, Berry, think, struggled with low single digit volume growth for the last few years. Arun ViswanathanSenior Equity Analyst at RBC Capital Markets00:56:59They did have start to have some line of sight to that going forward, but it was somewhat elusive. So maybe you can just comment on if that's something that you see that's still within the crosshairs for the combined company? And then secondly, on the procurement side, I appreciate the math on the 2% to 3% reduction there and that does square with the synergy guidance. But it's just a little bit surprising given that Berry was already such a large buyer of resin as you were as well. And so I think you mentioned that there are many other terms that you can kind of work through to achieve those synergies. Arun ViswanathanSenior Equity Analyst at RBC Capital Markets00:57:42So can you just confirm that it's not just price? Could maybe long term supply agreements or whatever else to get those? Thanks. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:57:55Yes. Let me work through that. On the growth side, I would probably agree with the assessment of Berry's growth profile, low single digit growth. We have seen that. I would say that's not much different from what Amkor has seen over longer periods of time. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:58:14And we are going to have an opportunity as we combine the company to drive that into higher levels on a sustainable basis. The portfolio realignment and pruning will certainly help on that end. We have a broader product portfolio that we can offer to customers at scale and globally. We have leverage opportunities in the products that we talked about. Think about the established base of Amcor in Latin America and Asia Pacific and the various products that we can sell through the existing network. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:58:53And I Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:58:55would Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:58:55say those are the most important levers that we see plus, and that's the one that I was struggling with here, plus the innovation capabilities that we now have on a combined basis to drive functionality, but particularly also sustainability as we go forward that will differentiate our product portfolio going forward. So those are the four big levers that I would see to get ourselves into a stronger growth trajectory going forward, and we have made that a real priority for the company. So that's the growth side. On the procurement side, look, I don't know how much I can add to this, to be honest with you. I think the most important thing that we have is it's a very complementary buy, and the party that has the bigger scale typically has the better terms. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:59:43And that is something that we can roll out as we combine the two companies. So think in that direction because there is real value there. Now in terms of terms, yes, there is more than price and other things that you can look at, no question. And we will have to take a comprehensive approach. And we'll do all the things that you have at your fingertips to drive the conversation. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor01:00:08And we're not against long term supplier relationships if that drives value, mutual value on both sides. Operator01:00:16Good, everyone. That is all the time we have for questions today. This does conclude our question and answer session. I will now hand things back to Piquet for additional or closing remarks. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor01:00:26Yes. Thank you, operator. Look, thanks for the interest to everybody here on the call. I just want to make a comment here in closing. With the merger now completed, Umpgur really is better positioned than ever to meet customer and consumer needs as the markets continue to evolve. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor01:00:45We are really thrilled to welcome our new colleagues, customers and shareholders. And as far as I'm concerned, this is day one of an exciting and an incredibly strong future for Amkor and all our stakeholders. Thank you, operator. Please close the call. Operator01:01:02Thank you, sir. And once again, everyone, that does conclude today's conference. We would like to thank you all for your participation today. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesTracey WhiteheadGlobal Head, Investor RelationsPeter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial OfficerMichael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFOAnalystsGhansham PanjabiSenior Research Analyst at BairdAnthony PettinariAnalyst at CitigroupDaniel KangHead of Basic Industrials, Australian Equities Research at CLSA LimitedMatthew RobertsEquity Research Analyst at Raymond James FinancialJakob CakarnisManaging Director, Equity Research at Jarden Australia Pty LimitedGeorge StaphosManaging Director at Bank of America Merrill LynchBrook Campbell-CrawfordAnalyst at BarrenjoeyJohn PurtellDivisional Director, Senior Analyst at Macquarie GroupMichael RoxlandMD - Equity Research at Truist SecuritiesKeith ChauResearch Analyst at MST FinancialNathan ReillyExecutive Director at UBS GroupSam SeowVice President at CitiCameron McDonaldMD - Head of Research at E&PArun ViswanathanSenior Equity Analyst at RBC Capital MarketsPowered by Key Takeaways Thanks to the early close of the Berry combination—completed in under six months—Amcor can now accelerate earnings growth by capturing €650 million of identified synergies over three years, including €260 million in FY 2026 alone. In Q3, Amcor delivered adjusted EPS growth of 5% on a comparable basis, with net sales of CHF 3.3 billion and EBIT of CHF 384 million, driven by disciplined cost management and improving healthcare volumes. Volumes were broadly flat year-over-year, but North American demand softened—notably in Beverage, Snacks & Confectionery and Home & Personal Care—leading to a build in inventories that management plans to reduce. For Q4, Amcor narrowed its outlook to $0.72–$0.74 of adjusted EPS and £900 million–£1 billion of free cash flow, maintaining full-year guidance and assuming two months of legacy Berry earnings. Safety remains the top priority, with a TRIR of 0.027 and 69% of sites injury-free for over a year, while integration teams are in place to align global flexibles and containers & closures segments for growth. AI Generated. 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Email Address About AmcorAmcor (NYSE:AMCR) develops, produces, and sells packaging products in Europe, North America, Latin America, Africa, and the Asia Pacific regions. The company operates through two segments, Flexibles and Rigid Packaging. The Flexibles segment provides flexible and film packaging products in the food and beverage, medical and pharmaceutical, fresh produce, snack food, personal care, and other industries. The Rigid Packaging segment offers rigid containers for various beverage and food products, including carbonated soft drinks, water, juices, sports drinks, milk-based beverages, spirits and beer, sauces, dressings, spreads, and personal care items; and plastic caps for various applications. The company sells its products through its direct sales force. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Well, good day, everyone, and welcome to Amcor's Fiscal twenty twenty five Third Quarter Results Conference. This conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to hand things over to Ms. Tracey Whitehead, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, ma'am. Tracey WhiteheadGlobal Head, Investor Relations at Amcor00:00:14Thank you, operator, and thank you, everyone, for joining Amcor's fiscal twenty twenty five third quarter earnings call. Joining the call today is Peter Konyetzny, Interim Chief Executive Officer and Michael Cacimento, Chief Financial Officer. Before I hand over, let me note a few items. On our website, amcor.com, under the Investors section, you'll find today's press release and presentation, which we'll discuss on the call. Please be aware that we'll also discuss non GAAP financial measures, and related reconciliations can be found in that press release and the presentation. Tracey WhiteheadGlobal Head, Investor Relations at Amcor00:00:50Remarks will also include forward looking statements that are based on management's current views and assumptions. The second slide in today's presentation lists several factors that could cause future results to be different than current estimates. Reference can be made to Amcor's SEC filings, including our statements on Form 10 ks and 10 Q for further details. Please note that during the question and answer session, we request that you limit yourself to a single question and then rejoin the queue if you have any additional questions or follow-up. With that, over to you, PK. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:01:26Thank you, Tracy, and thank you to all who have joined us for today's call. Today is a defining day for Encore as we successfully closed our transformational combination with Berry Global earlier than we anticipated in a record time. Early close means that we are now positioned to accelerate earnings growth through the delivery of significant synergies that are identified and within our control. I want to thank the Amkor and Berry teams for their hard work and dedication over the past months. Together, they have navigated challenges and complexity to accomplish a truly remarkable outcome that positions Amkor for a faster start on synergy delivery and growth. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:02:10As always, on Slide three, we begin with safety, our number one priority. This commitment remains unchanged as we welcome 30,000 new colleagues to Amcor. Our total recordable incident rate, TRIR, fiscal year to date was zero point zero two seven and 69% of our sites have remained injury free for over a year. Our focus on workforce safety and the well-being of our people is resolute, and we continue to achieve industry leading performance. Our key messages for today are on Slide four. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:02:45First, we continue to deliver EPS growth in Q3, reflecting disciplined execution and resilience in a demand environment that became more variable and uncertain as the quarter progressed, particularly for our North American business. Second, as I mentioned, the Berry combination closed ahead of schedule. It took less than six months from announcement to close, during which time we secured shareholder approvals, completed the necessary refinancing, including a multibillion dollar debt offering and obtained unconditional approval from regulators in all required jurisdictions. As a result, our earnings and cash flow guidance has also been updated to reflect expectations for the combined company in the fourth quarter. And third, our early close also means we will enter fiscal twenty twenty six in an even better position with confidence the synergy run rate will start strong and build quickly through the year. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:03:43The source of synergies has been identified. Our execution plans are clearly set out and within our control, and synergies alone give us clear visibility to significant total earnings accretion of approximately 12%. Turning to Slide five. As we begin integration, our focus is clear: deliver identified synergies and grow faster. Experience with previous acquisition tells us that having clear accountability and alignment from day one is critical to our success. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:04:15This combination brought together two extraordinary pools of talent, and we are fortunate to have a team of leaders in place with significant functional, operational and industry expertise. Our business is organized around two segments: Amkor's global flexibles business is being led by Fred Stefan, who has many years of experience within Amkor leading large scale flexible packaging businesses And Jean Marc Alves, former President of Berry's Consumer Packaging International division is leading Amkor's global containers and closures business. Fred and Jean Marc are well supported by world class functional leaders and dedicated integration teams with separate work streams focusing on capturing cost, financial and growth synergies. Slide six provides a recap of the highly compelling rationale for this combination and the alignment with our strategy to become the packaging partner of choice for customers, while also delivering stronger, more consistent and sustainable organic growth and further improving margins. There are a number of growth unlocks now available. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:05:23The combined company is a better business with a complementary and broader portfolio of primary packaging solutions at scale across consumer goods and health care end markets. In the context of a stronger, larger scale company, we are now uniquely positioned to further refine our portfolio mix to focus even more on attractive higher value faster growing end markets. With further pruning, we will increase average growth rates, margins and cash generation across the remaining portfolio, and we continue to advance our work on this review. In addition, Amkor has exceptional and now enhanced capabilities in material science and innovation, providing opportunities to drive growth by effectively and efficiently leveraging our combined resources. With more than 1,500 R and D professionals and annual R and D investment of approximately €180,000,000 we can now optimize and redirect R and D spend, providing capacity to focus on solving the most complex functionality and sustainability challenges faced by our customers and consumers. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:06:32Executing against these growth opportunities and delivering the significant identified synergies is largely within our control and will drive compelling near and long term value for shareholders. Turning to synergies on Slide seven. The work our integration teams have already completed gives us confidence in delivering €650,000,000 of synergies, which will result in significant earnings growth over the next three years. Approximately 40% of total synergies or €260,000,000 is expected to benefit fiscal twenty twenty six earnings. A further €260,000,000 of synergies will benefit earnings in fiscal twenty twenty seven with a balance in fiscal twenty twenty eight, leading to total EPS accretion in excess of 35% over the three year period. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:07:22In addition, we expect onetime cash benefits of €280,000,000 from working capital improvements, which will fund costs to achieve. Finally, on Slide eight and the compelling sustainable financial value we're creating. Including synergies, annual cash flow available to reinvest will exceed $3,000,000,000 each year by fiscal twenty twenty eight and will enable us to maintain a strong investment grade balance sheet, deploy additional cash to support higher levels of organic volume driven growth, finance further M and A and continue funding a compelling and growing dividend from Amkor's current annualized base of $0.51 per share. With stronger cash generation and greater opportunities to invest, we also expect to increase long term EPS growth and raise the outcomes under our shareholder value creation model to a new and higher level. Simply put, this combination is a game changer for Amkor's financial profile and provides self help earnings growth opportunities at a time of increasing uncertainty in the macro environment. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:08:35Moving to Slide nine for a summary of our third quarter financial results. Overall volumes were in line with last year with modest share gains offset by weaker consumer and customer demand. As Michael will cover in more detail, there were a number of puts and takes across our regions. Volume growth in the low to mid single digit range in each of Europe, Asia Pacific and Latin America was offset by weaker than anticipated consumer demand in our North American businesses, including North America Beverage. Notwithstanding the increasingly dynamic consumer environment, Q3 saw continued growth across key financial metrics with net sales of CHF 3,300,000,000.0 and EBIT of CHF $384,000,000, both marginally higher than last year. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:09:23We also delivered another quarter of adjusted EPS growth, up 5% on a comparable basis, benefiting from a continued focus on cost as well as improving health care volumes, which benefited price mix trends as anticipated. I'll now turn the call over to Michael to cover the third quarter results and our updated outlook in more detail. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:09:44Thanks, Piket, and hello, everyone. Beginning with the Flexibles segment on Slide 10. Volumes for the quarter were up 1% on last year. Modest share gains in several important categories, including health care and protein, were partly offset by weaker consumer demand primarily in North America. Overall demand remained solid through the quarter in Europe, Asia and Latin America, with each region achieving low to mid single digit volume growth. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:10:11China and India continued to deliver mid single mid to high single digit growth, and volumes were up across most countries in Latin America. As Peekay mentioned earlier, the demand environment in North America became more variable and uncertain as the quarter progressed. North America volumes were down low single digits, which was lower than we anticipated heading into the third quarter, including in Snacks and Confectionery and Home and Personal Care categories. From an end market perspective, we continue to see good growth in a number of our priority markets. Pet Care, premium coffee and ready meals continue to grow strongly. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:10:47And volumes in meat, dairy and liquids were up low to mid single digits, benefiting in part from modest share gains. Healthcare volumes continuing to improve sequentially. Medical volumes were up in the high single digits. And as expected, demand for pharmaceutical packaging improved significantly as destocking is now essentially behind us. Strength in these categories more than offset volume declines in end markets such as snacks and confectionery and home personal care, which were both down low single digits. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:11:19Improved healthcare volumes supported a return to favorable pricemix, and overall net sales were up 1% on a comparable constant currency basis. Adjusted EBIT of $358,000,000 grew 2% on a comparable constant currency basis, benefiting from the higher volumes and continued strong cost performance. And EBIT margin for the quarter remained strong at 13.7%, broadly in line with last year. Turning to Rigid Packaging on Slide 11. The Rigids business had a more challenging quarter as solid growth in Latin America in Specialty Containers was more than offset by weaker than anticipated consumer and custom demand in North American Beverage. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:11:59Net sales were approximately 3% lower than last year, reflecting a 2% decline in overall volumes and an unfavorable impact from pricemix of approximately 1%. Entering the quarter, we anticipated continued soft demand in North American Beverage. However, consumer and customer demand across our key categories weakened further, resulting in a high single digit volume decline. Latin American volumes were up mid single digits and growth was strong in several countries and regions, including Mexico and Central America. And volumes were higher in the Specialty Containers business with growth in Healthcare end markets. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:12:37From an earnings perspective, adjusted EBIT of £55,000,000 for the quarter no longer includes any contribution from the Bericap joint venture, which was divested in December 2024. Bericap benefited Rigid Packaging segment earnings by approximately £5,000,000 in the third quarter last year. Now on a comparable basis, EBIT was unfavorably impacted by lower volumes and price mix headwinds. This was partly offset by favorable cost performance net of sequentially higher labor costs in the North American Beverage business. And it's typical for manning capacity to increase in the March as the business approaches the seasonally strongest June, and this had an unfavorable impact on earnings for the quarter given the lower anticipated volumes lower than anticipated volumes. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:13:24Moving to cash flow on the balance sheet on Slide 12. On a year to date basis, the business had a net cash outflow of £17,000,000 which is lower than we expected and compares with a cash inflow of £115,000,000 last year. The key driver of this underperformance is higher inventories as a result of weaker sales volumes in the March. In response, we have significantly increased our team's focus on working capital performance, and we are prioritizing inventory reductions to a level that is more aligned with the expected demand. Leverage of 3.5 times is higher than we were anticipating due to stronger euro spot rates towards the end of the quarter, which negatively impacted leverage by 0.1 times as well as higher quarter end net debt. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:14:10We expect to exit fiscal twenty twenty five with leverage at approximately 3.4 times inclusive of acquisition impacts, and we remain confident in bringing leverage down to approximately 3x by the end of fiscal twenty twenty six. This trajectory is aligned with expectations we set out when the merger was announced in November. Our teams did an excellent job completing the required refinancing of Berry Global debt prior to transaction close and ahead of this current period of increased volatility in financial markets. Finally, the company has returned five fifty million pounds in cash to shareholders through a growing dividend and the Board of Directors today declared the March dividend of $12.75 per share, which is 2% higher than the same quarter last year. This brings me to the outlook on Slide 13. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:15:01As we look ahead into the fourth quarter, we are not anticipating any improvement in the overall demand environment and we believe this is a particularly prudent approach given current macroeconomic conditions and uncertainty around tariff impacts on consumers and customers. As a result, we expect overall Q4 volume growth to remain muted and aligned with the March. That said, with the successful early close of the merger, we have taken into account two months of Berry ownership and we continue to expect earnings for fiscal twenty twenty five within our original guidance range. Heading into the final quarter of the year, we are narrowing our outlook range for adjusted EPS to $0.72 to $0.74 per share on a reported basis. This takes into account two months of earnings from the legacy Berry business as well as additional shares issued upon close, which results in a net accretion of up to $01 per share. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:15:57In terms of free cash flow, we expect a range of 900,000,000 to £1,000,000,000 for the year, which also includes a contribution from the legacy Berry business. Importantly, as Peekay mentioned earlier, before we even consider assumptions around organic performance for fiscal twenty twenty six, we have clear visibility to significant EPS growth of approximately 12% through delivery of £260,000,000 of synergies alone, which is not dependent on improving macroeconomics, customer or consumer demand. We're excited about the opportunities ahead and confident in our ability to execute on the controllables and deliver significant value to shareholders in FY 2026 and beyond. So with that, I'll hand back to you, P. K. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:16:41Thanks, Vinci. To sum up before taking questions, with an enhanced global footprint, expanded capabilities across Consumer and Healthcare Packaging and a clear road map to significant synergies over the next three years, Amkor is well positioned to deliver value to our stakeholders despite an increasingly uncertain external environment. We are thrilled to welcome our new colleagues, customers and shareholders. This is day one of an even stronger future for Amkor and the best is yet to come. Operator, we're now ready to take questions. Operator00:17:16Thank you, sir. Our first question today comes from Ghansham Panjabi, Baird. Ghansham PanjabiSenior Research Analyst at Baird00:17:30Thank you, operator. Good day, everybody. Congrats on the merger close first off. I guess on the progressive deceleration in North American volumes that you called out, maybe you can just share with us what customers are sharing with you as it relates to the sequential weakening. And the reason I ask is volumes were already at their low point to begin with given previous destocking, consumer affordability issues and all that stuff. Ghansham PanjabiSenior Research Analyst at Baird00:17:52So what got worse do you think? And related to that, was Berry's volume profile any different than what you reported? Thank you. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:17:59Yes. Thanks, Ghansham. Really good questions. And let me start with what we're seeing in North America. First off, just to position that and put it into perspective, we went into the quarter with an expectation of low to mid single digit volume growth across the board. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:18:14And we came out of the quarter seeing that we pretty much hit that expectation everywhere except in North America. So that was the holdback. In North America, we have seen real weakness on the consumer demand, particularly hitting our North American Beverage business, which was down high single digits and therefore softer than what we had seen in the prior quarter, where it was down about mid single digit. And we've also seen some weakness in our North American Flexibles business, which was driven by categories that can be more discretionary, for example, beverage and confectionery. Unconfectionery also keep in mind that we're seeing a lot of inflation coming from the cocoa environment. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:19:00While that was offset with some categories where we've seen growth in Healthcare, Meat, Dairy and Liquids, That was essentially the overall story for North America, weaker than what we expected. I just want to make one more comment. As you pointed that out, volumes have been low. And in the past quarters, certainly driven by destocking, which, however, reduced over time. The restocking is now behind us. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:19:31What we're seeing now is no longer an impact from destocking. What we're seeing now is really soft consumer demand, which I'd say really goes back to sticky inflation. We called that out in earlier calls. And then in the third quarter or the first quarter of this calendar year, certainly, the whole uncertainty around the tariff situation has had an impact. Operator00:19:54Our next question is Anthony Pettinari, Citi. Anthony PettinariAnalyst at Citigroup00:19:59Good afternoon. You pointed to the 20% synergy driven EPS growth assumption for fiscal twenty twenty six. And I think you talked about that take it's before taking into account any organic performance in the underlying business. I guess a couple of questions there. Is there an underlying assumption that organic growth is going to be positive in fiscal twenty twenty six? Anthony PettinariAnalyst at Citigroup00:20:26Or are you not really making any assumptions at all? And maybe to kind of ask the question another way, if we are in a much more challenging macro environment in fiscal twenty twenty six, can you talk about your ability or your confidence in achieving the synergies in a tougher macro environment? Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:20:48Okay, Anthony. I may want to start here, then I'm sure that Michael is going to build. Before I get back to your question, let me just finish off the other question from Gansham that I didn't answer, and he actually asked a question about the Berry volume performance. Look, it's a little early for me to be across all the details of the volume performance in the last quarter because we just closed the acquisition right now. But from a higher level, we're very excited about better growth performance on the Berry side. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:21:19And I think the answer lies in mix with regards to customer exposure and category exposure. Keep in mind that North American Beverage is not a category that Berry operates in. So it's mix genshum, and I just wanted to make sure that I covered that off. Now Anthony, to your question, your question was sort of volume guidance for 2026 and what we're assuming for 2024 and what we sort of believe the macroeconomic environment is like. Let start there. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:21:54We already in our prepared comments, we said that at this point in time, we're really just guiding towards the end of this fiscal year, which includes Q4. And the way that we look at this is that we would never make drastically different assumptions in terms of the macroeconomic environment on a very short period of time. So going from Q3 to Q4, you would always see us pretty much roll forward the macroeconomic environment that we operate in. So we've seen flat volume growth overall on the Amcor side. We've seen a bit of growth on the Berry side. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:22:35We're going to get two months of contribution from Berry in the fourth quarter, and that will get you to a pretty much flat to slightly up volume performance expectation for the fourth quarter. That's the way how we triangulate ourselves into the fourth quarter in terms of volumes. Now with regards to '26, we're not going to guide today for '26. We typically do that in August. But what we're pointing to here is that we have a lot of benefits from the combination with Berry. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:23:11And we have an ability because we have been able to close the acquisition in record time to get our hands around and our arms around the synergy opportunities two months earlier than what we thought. And that will set us up really for a great opportunity to get out of the blocks for 2026 really fast. And we have a high level of confidence in the ability to generate the synergies in year one, which is fiscal twenty twenty six and which amounts to €260,000,000 And just if you do the math, that creates an EPS uplift of 12%. I'll stop there and see if Michael wants to add anything Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:23:53I think think in cover to PK, we, you know, we feel pretty pretty really confident around the ability to deliver those synergies, and it's not contingent on the macroeconomic environment or the consumer or customer demand. And in fact, for Amcor, we see that as a real advantage because we've got self help in the form of those synergies. So, you know, out of the gates, as DK mentioned, we've we've closed earlier that, you know, we've got good line of sight. The teams, you know, have been working on this synergy delivery by functions, and we've got four functional teams set up across, you know, SG and A and procurement operations and growth, you know, dedicated teams working on that. And, you know, we're going to hit the ground running. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:24:34And, you know, so from July 1, we're really confident around the ability to deliver there. Operator00:24:40Our next question is from Daniel Kang, CLSA. Daniel KangHead of Basic Industrials, Australian Equities Research at CLSA Limited00:24:47Morning, P. K. Good morning, Mike. Just an extension on the synergies commentary. So two sixty million dollars in FY 2026. Daniel KangHead of Basic Industrials, Australian Equities Research at CLSA Limited00:24:57Just wondering if you can categorize the breakdown of that, particularly with regards to procurement. I'm just interested in how the preliminary discussions have gone with key raw material suppliers. Any color you can shed on that would be much appreciated. Thank you. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:25:17Yes. I'll start on that one, Daniel. Look, I mean, the $260,000,000 synergies, broke out as we said, we've broken out the $650,000,000 over three years, a portion from procurement, SG and A and operations and growth. In '26, I mean, clearly, out of the gates, your focus and ability to deliver is first and foremost comes from the G and A side. So that's typically the first phase you get on to. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:25:46Procurement will deliver as well, and that will build through the first twelve months and into the second year. And then the operations side typically takes a little longer because that's footprint optimization. That said, we've already identified some areas where we've got overlap. So again, teams have been working on that and we'll hit the ground running, but they tend to take a little bit more just because you've got to move network around, etcetera. And then look on the growth synergies, again, that's something that typically takes a little longer, but again, a dedicated team on that. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:26:17So we haven't called out exactly the mix of the synergies, Daniel, but that kind of gives you a flavor that SG and A typically comes first, procurement comes through and we'll build and then you get into the operations and the growth. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:26:30Yes. And if I add to that, Daniel, I mean, didn't provide and we're not intending to provide a detailed breakdown of the $260,000,000 in the first year, but Michael gave you some quality here. There's no question that procurement will be a major contributor. You asked how things are going so far in the conversations. Look, we may have had some touch points with suppliers, but the level of engagement around that question has been really on a high level. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:27:01And that is understandable because we haven't even closed the acquisition yet. And the suppliers are not really interested to engage in that conversation unless there's something real on the table. So we'll go into that, I think, a lot more from here on. That said, the teams have been doing all the work that you would expect them to do. We have clean teams set up that actually have been looking at details. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:27:31And all the work has really resulted in a point where we say we're pretty confident with the ability to deliver. Operator00:27:41The next question comes from Matt Roberts, Raymond James. Matthew RobertsEquity Research Analyst at Raymond James Financial00:27:47Hey, good afternoon. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for the time and congratulations on the completion of the merger. PK, maybe on portfolio pruning that you did discuss, given that there's weakness in industrial end markets or just broader uncertainty in demand in general in the M and A environment, how has your idea of timing around that pruning changed from when the merger was announced to now? Or when can we expect incremental color on that portfolio review? Matthew RobertsEquity Research Analyst at Raymond James Financial00:28:18Thanks for taking the question. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:28:20No, that's thanks, Matt. I was for a couple of calls, I've been very explicit that a little more dynamic portfolio management is an opportunity for the business, even more so now that we have combined ourselves with Berry. I have mentioned before that we have kicked that analysis off. And what we're doing there is just simply taking all of our activities, and we're assessing that against certain criteria, and we've made some really good progress around it. Now the first thing that I will say is we will have to take a look at that assessment in the context of the new combined entity that we're looking at. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:29:06We have a significant synergy opportunity that we will capture. We have more capabilities at our hands. We can learn from each other in terms of best practices, and that may have an impact on our assessment of the different businesses and their ability to compete and be successful in the areas where they operate. That's the one thing. The second thing is, you mentioned also the current environment that we're operating in. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:29:34Now the environment will not stop us on the initiative per se. So we're going to move on and we're going to get the assessment done. And if really what's behind your question is a question on timing, when can we execute against that, That's a really hard one to answer, I would say, at this point. Things are changing by the day. And the only thing that I can really point to is that we'll continue to be that we will be very disciplined around anything that we do on that end. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:30:03That's something that I can promise. Operator00:30:07We'll take the next question today from Jacob Kacarnes, Jardan Australia. Jacob, your line is open. Please check your mute button. Jakob CakarnisManaging Director, Equity Research at Jarden Australia Pty Limited00:30:22Sorry, excuse me, Hi, Peter. Hi, Michael. I was just going to focus on the procurement synergies if I could, please. They're 60% of the overall cost synergies that you guys are targeting. Michael and Peter, if I understood correctly, you were saying that that relied on a combined entity to have those discussions with the suppliers. Jakob CakarnisManaging Director, Equity Research at Jarden Australia Pty Limited00:30:40So I guess if you could step us through for '26 is the priority, a harmonization of those supplier terms? And then as we turned our minds to '27 and '28 to hit those EPS accretion targets, is it more about drilling down into the terms of that procurement and potentially looking for some pricing benefits given your new scale, please? Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:31:03Yes, Jacob, I'll have a go at this. I mean the way it works, having been through these acquisitions of large scales a couple of times with Amcor, there's a very general principle, which is get to the synergies fast or never. So I'm not sure that you pace yourself in the conversations with suppliers when you particularly look at procurement. You need to wait until you can represent the combined spend. That's what I meant in my earlier answer. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:31:36As long as the acquisition is not closed, you don't really have a leg to stand on when you enter into the conversation. Now that, that's the case, we can enter into the conversations and have the discussions with our suppliers. And that is what's going to happen. And as we start those discussions, it will be around across everything. It will be across price. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:32:02It will be across terms. It will be across a number of different things. And then we'll try to make progress as quickly as possible against that. I think that's the way I would want to answer that question. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:32:14And I think if I just add there, Pike, to put it in perspective, if you remember again, the total addressable spend for the combined entity is around $13,000,000,000 of which $10,000,000,000 is raw materials. So when you put that into perspective, it's kind of a 2.5% to 3% impact that we're expecting from the procurement area for the synergy. That's 1% a year. It's something that's absolutely achievable from where we sit. Operator00:32:47George Staphos from Bank of America is up next. George StaphosManaging Director at Bank of America Merrill Lynch00:32:53Hi, everyone. Good morning. Good afternoon. Thanks for the details. Are you? George StaphosManaging Director at Bank of America Merrill Lynch00:32:59My question is going to focus on growth kind of tying together a lot of what's already been sort of talked about. So can you, P. K, tell us what in particular in the consumer environment and certainly, there's been the volatility with tariffs and so on, but how has that affected your customers' outlook on demand when in reality, they're producing staples, you know, confectionery items, protein, coffee? How is all the volatility in things that are much more discretionary kind of filtering back into what your customers are are thinking about in terms of their outlook for growth? And you need to be, I'm sure, thinking about that because the growth or lack of it is an important variable in terms of your valuation over time. George StaphosManaging Director at Bank of America Merrill Lynch00:33:54Relatedly to that, what your customers are saying, with the growth outlook decelerating, I recognize you're only a few days into owning Berry. What would you say the probabilities are and what levers will you use to perhaps see whether those synergy targets are at least achievable, if not conservative at this juncture. You already mentioned that as a percentage of the overall spend, the procurement spend, the revenue of the company, which is over $20,000,000,000 is a relatively small percentages. So how should we think about how you'll be able to leverage perhaps grow that synergy target, especially with volume growth being relatively flaccid at the moment? Thank you and good luck in the quarter. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:34:42Thanks, George. There was a lot in that question. Let me try to bucket it up in two parts, and I'll invite Michael to come in to share his views too. The first one was, if I understood it correctly, a question of how our customers are performing in this environment and how the uncertainty sort of drives their growth performance. And that obviously is, for us, a major factor because our customers' demand drive essentially our ability to sell. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:35:15So we're trying to be close to our customers in order to understand that. I think if I take a step back, the uncertainty that we have particularly seen in the last quarter in North America is really has really driven weakening consumer demand. That's sort of the source of the issue. And when you go and try to understand the consumer, you will find the consumer change their behaviors in terms of seeking value, in terms of thinking very carefully about where to spend money. And what you typically see is that the consumers buy less where they have an opportunity to do so. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:35:55And where you come to the essentials, they would buy different. They buy different in terms of trading down, buying bulk, going to different channels. And that's all of that is what we're seeing and what the customers are seeing. And from what I've seen and what I've heard from the customers, that is very much aligned with what our customers are actually seeing. Now that's the one thing that drives the customers. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:36:24And everybody has uncertainty right now in forecasting demand scenarios. And there is a lot of volatility out there, which makes it really hard. And in some cases, we get volume forecasts from our customers, which do not materialize. And we need to deal with that as part of the value chain like everybody else does. But that's the situation that we're seeing. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:36:52That's bucket number one. Let me stop there and see if I ask Michael if he wants to add anything to that. No? Okay. Then I get to the bucket number two, which was more about the question of in this environment, how do we think about synergies and synergy outperformance particularly. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:37:12Look, we have been very transparent around the amount of synergies that we expect, which is the CHF $650,000,000 over a period of three years. We have made some comments around how we face that across the years, and we are now currently working on translating that. We have good pipelines in place for every single bucket of those synergies to go after them. I would say, in some cases, the pipelines would suggest that we have more opportunities than what we were thinking about, but they would have to translate in the current environment. So I'm not comfortable of driving any different expectations than what we have announced. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:38:07And I would also not lock myself into a breakdown by bucket for those synergies. But overall, again, we sit here today, and we're pretty confident that we can get that done. The final point that I will make is, let's not forget, this is a very volatile situation out there. We have created a situation in North America in a very short period of time by driving uncertainty around the whole tariff situation. And again, even that situation is very volatile. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:38:41So we may sit here again in a couple of quarters and look at a different situation that presents itself to ourselves and that will drive a different view in terms of the operating environment. But all of that will not change our expectations on the synergies. It's been a bit of a long winded answer here, George. I'm sorry for that. But I hope I sort of addressed the underlying question that you had on your mind. Operator00:39:15The next question will come from Brook Campbell Crawford from Berenberg. Brook Campbell-CrawfordAnalyst at Barrenjoey00:39:23Just Brook Campbell-CrawfordAnalyst at Barrenjoey00:39:26one on the North America beverage business. You've called that high single digit decline in volume, I think it was, in the quarter on a year over year basis. And I guess just looking through that, it seems to look like EBIT for North America Beverage will be down sort of 20% or so year over year. So could you maybe just provide a comment if that's a sensible assumption? And given that, is there any sort of structural issues going on in that business that need to be discussed at this point? Brook Campbell-CrawfordAnalyst at Barrenjoey00:40:00Yes. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:40:02Let me start with that, Birx, and try to be more pointed on that question. When I'll start by just contextualizing the volume performance that we've seen, high single digits down. I want to make clear that this is pretty much exactly aligned with what we see in the market. So the point of what I just said is, it's not an issue of share or share loss. When you look at Canada and North America, you take a look at the categories or the subcategories that we participate in and you keep in mind our customer exposure, you can pretty much triangulate yourself into the performance of volumes that we've seen in the quarter. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:40:44So that's the first thing. The second thing is I'll let Michael comment on how that translates into the bottom line. You also asked a question of is there a structural element to that business? We have had this we've owned this business for a long period of time, and we have seen a number of cycles in the past. This is a long cycle and an extended cycle, but a lot of things are sort of happening around us, and they have different drivers. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:41:11We, at this point in time, are still not ready to call it structural. And it doesn't take much volumes to come back and to improve the overall performance of the business. Michael, if you want to talk to the Yes. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:41:26To follow-up on that, I yes, in terms of the EBIT performance, Brook, yes, I mean, the first thing that we have to take into account is that the prior year EBIT includes the Berrycap business, which we disposed in December 2024. So that was about a $5,000,000 contribution to EBIT in the prior year. So obviously, we don't have that in the current year. And then the rigid overall performance was down about 12% comparable constant currency basis. You know, and that was really driven by the volume decline, particularly in North American beverage. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:41:59And in addition to that, we have we did build some labor into the business in quarter three, and we would typically do that ahead you know, build some manning up ahead of the busy season in the June to be able to manage the increased demand there. But obviously, with the we put that in place, but with the softer than expected volume performance in the quarter, that did have an impact on the cost base of the business, which impacted the bottom line in the quarter. So that's really what drove the 12% decline year on year. We would expect some improvement on that as we head into Q4. Operator00:42:41Up next, we'll take a question from Jon Pertel of Macquarie Group. John PurtellDivisional Director, Senior Analyst at Macquarie Group00:42:47Day, Peter and Michael. Hope you're well. Just a comment on or a question around sort of volumes within the quarter. Perhaps what you saw within the quarter and any comment you can make on April, which sort of goes to a broader question about your expectations for Q4 and some of the moving parts within that? Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:43:13Yes, John. I sort of mentioned that before, but let me summarize it again. I guess the new part is that we have seen throughout the quarter the consumer demand weakening. I think that's a fair comment. I'm not a big fan of discussing volume performance month by month. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:43:29And I've said that before, I don't think that helps a lot. But in this particular case, I think there is there was an element of weakening demand through the quarter. I will say again, a very much different portfolio between the different regions, a pretty solid demand in terms of our expectations of low to mid single digits everywhere else. But in North America, we've seen the weakening. Now as I said before, the way how we go into the fourth quarter is very much aligned with what we've seen in the third quarter. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:44:03We're expecting from an Amcor side overall flat volumes. And Berry came in with a bit of growth in the third quarter, which we were happy to see. We'll see two months of contribution of Berry in the fourth quarter assuming now on the same principle, assuming that to sort of continue, you would get the fourth quarter for something to something that is flat to slightly growing. Operator00:44:33The next question today is Mike Roxland, Truist Securities. Michael RoxlandMD - Equity Research at Truist Securities00:44:38Yes. Thank you, P. K, Michael, Tracy, even for taking my questions. And congrats on closing the deal and on all the progress. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:44:46Thanks, Mike. Michael RoxlandMD - Equity Research at Truist Securities00:44:48Just I wanted to focus on synergies. Not to be a dead horse here, but I wanted to follow-up with you regarding the procurement savings of three twenty five million both you and Barry are some of the largest purchasers globally of resins. I don't believe there's a direct overlap maybe in some of the grades. I think you guys may be more heavier to PET, Barry may be heavier to the polypropylene. There is some overlap on polyethylene. Michael RoxlandMD - Equity Research at Truist Securities00:45:19But so there is you'll have direct overlap in some things. In addition, the resin producers themselves are under pressure, and I think maybe some are looking to offer notable price concessions given the financial difficulties there in Catherine. So we'd just love to get your thoughts about how you intend to approach the procurement savings, particularly in a more challenging environment on resin. And then secondly, can you remind us about the vetting process you undertook regarding the cost synergies? How did you determine that these figures were the correct figures in terms of synergies themselves? Michael RoxlandMD - Equity Research at Truist Securities00:45:52Thank you. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:45:54Yes, Michael, I'll start out and then maybe Michael wants to build. And I want to go back to a couple of those data points that we had discussed on prior calls. Michael already mentioned the combined spend of the companies is €13,000,000,000 10 billion euros of that relates to raw materials. If you hold that against the expected synergies, you get yourself into the range of something like 3% that we're expecting over a three year period. And that's and that, of course, needs to go on top of what we typically produce on in year. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:46:32But that's not a tremendous expectation on the procurement synergies. So that's just to contextualize. And we've said that before, and that's and we're very consistent on that. The second thing that you said is, it's very complementary. And there is a bit of overlap, but to a large extent, particularly on the resin side, it's pretty complementary. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:46:54And that's actually good because we see Berry, for example, being much stronger on the polypropylene side, Amkur is much stronger on the PET and PE side. And that sets us up for an opportunity to just harmonize terms with the larger buyer. And that was one of the levers that we have always been expecting. And with all the work that we've done, we feel pretty confident that, that's an opportunity for us. So that's the way how we approach that. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:47:31And then maybe the final point is how do we think about generating those synergies in a tougher environment? My expectation is if we are in a volume muted environment, a large buyer has quite a bit of attractiveness to the supply base because we're able to bring critical volumes in order to help load capacities, existing capacities. And the very final point that I will make is we do have alternatives. We do have alternatives. It's not that we're locked in one or two suppliers only. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:48:07We do have alternatives, and that's what we need to leverage. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:48:12And Mike, if I just pick up on your second question the second part of the question, which is around just a reminder of how we came about the synergy number and shrew that up. I mean, we put a lot of work in behind the scenes on this on both sides actually on the Berry and Amcor side. Obviously, we've both got a lot of experience in M and A. We used external consultants to help us benchmark what you should expect, you know, the deal of this size and the various components relating to that. You know, we've had the integration teams in place. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:48:40So we stress tested that along the way. And I mean, typically, you would see synergy delivery in these type of deals somewhere around the 5% of sales would be the cost synergies. And, you know, that's where we've ended up around if you just take the cost synergies line of $530,000,000 you then got $60,000,000 of growth and $60,000,000 of financial. So, you know, when we triangulated that from all different ways and broke it out by the various components, you know, we felt really confident around the ability to deliver that number. Operator00:49:13And your next question comes from Keith Chow, MST Financial. Keith ChauResearch Analyst at MST Financial00:49:20TK. Hi, Michael. So just back on the procurement synergies, I guess, the point that some are trying to get to on this call like us, a 3% savings for Amcor over three years may not sound like a lot, but to some of these suppliers where margins are EBIT margins are, call it, 10 to 15%, you're talking about the 300% I'm sorry, 300 basis point haircut to the EBIT margin. So I guess the extent to which you can drive procurement synergies and maybe go to alternative suppliers that sometimes play ball, I just want to refer back to a letter or an email that was sent to your suppliers on the April 16 where you've asked them to meet in Chicago. First One is it sounds like a bit more of a directive rather than a partnership going forward. Keith ChauResearch Analyst at MST Financial00:50:12But I just wanna understand how many suppliers have responded to their email or letter? How many do you expect or proportionately you know, what proportion of your suppliers do you expect to turn up to that meeting? And what are the consequences to those suppliers if they don't play ball? And perhaps an extension to that is what proportion of your raw materials can you have alternate sourcing given the size of the two combined businesses? And Pico, look, I get the point that you've been involved in a lot of these large acquisitions, but this one is particularly big. Keith ChauResearch Analyst at MST Financial00:50:48You. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:50:49No, Keith, I you've sort of said all the right things. This one is particularly big, and I've been involved in some of the larger acquisitions. And that's why I'm going to have to tell you, I can't really get any further into that conversation. We have a playbook, and some of those conversations are obviously very sensitive with the suppliers. And we're going to handle it in a very respectful manner. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:51:15And we have a business interest to represent here and that's what we're going to do. So understand the question, but would understand also and would ask for some understanding that this is really a level of detail that I don't want to handle on this call. Operator00:51:36We'll move to Nathan Riley, UBS. Nathan ReillyExecutive Director at UBS Group00:51:43Thanks for taking my question. Look, we've been hearing a little bit more about the North American consumers' sort of value seeking behaviors right now. So can you please talk to how your merged flexibles portfolio is positioned to respond to that shift in consumer behavior, just particularly in terms of any shift to private label, smaller portion sizes or anything else we should be thinking out on that shift in behavior, please? Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:52:07Yes, Nathan, this is a good one. We see a couple of things that we can respond to. And the one that I want to carve out here is when you think about value seeking behavior in the direction of going potentially to non branded product alternatives. That is something like on the private label side, that's certainly something that you could expect the consumers to do. We have a good participation in that category. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:52:37In North America, we're pretty much proportionally represented. And the reality is that the packaging formats that we're actually selling, whether it's branded or private label, are very similar. They end up being very similar. So one of the things that we take away from that is expanding our participation in those areas where consumers will turn to. And that is certainly something that we do. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:53:10Again, North America, that is pretty well established. In other regions, we may have some opportunities here and there, and we would be driving that. Operator00:53:23Next up is Sam Siew, Citi. Sam SeowVice President at Citi00:53:28Thanks guys. Appreciate you taking the question. Just on North American Beverage. Just wondering is there any numbers you can give us around the net exposure of North American Beverage in the combined business? And going forward, when you think about pruning, is that just dairy businesses you're looking at? Sam SeowVice President at Citi00:53:45Or is there some ample segments there as well? Thanks. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:53:49So if I go backwards, we're definitely looking at pruning of the portfolio in the context of the combined company. So that's a new Amkor going forward. It has nothing to do with carving out either legacy Berry or legacy Amkor. So that's a clear answer on the second question. On the first one, I'm not sure I fully understood the question, but I just want to make very clear, the Containers and Closures business from Berry has no participation in the North American Beverage category. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:54:20That's an Amcor question. Let me just see with Michael here if he heard the question differently. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:54:27Yes. No. That's right. I think the exposure on the beverage side for us, you know, is really the Amcor legacy Amcor business has, you know, 1,500,000,000.0 kind of revenue on into the beverage space, and there really is nothing. So that's the exposure. Operator00:54:54We'll take the next question from Cameron MacDonald, E and P. Cameron McDonaldMD - Head of Research at E&P00:55:00Good morning. Just wanted to touch on the below the line costs. So with the early integration of Berry, it looks like you've taken $26,000,000 already below the line. What's the expectation for that relative into the fourth quarter? And can we confirm then that that's including that that that is part of the 280 so that in FY twenty six and beyond that whatever is incurred in this quarter and the next quarter is a reduction to that $2.80 in the following years? Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:55:38Yeah. Look, just to put some clarity on that, we there's a couple of things going on in that line. So firstly, there's transaction costs. And for a deal of this size, you know, you'd expect the transaction cost kind of 1.5% to 2% of the enterprise value. So call it two fifty million to $300,000,000 part of which would end up in the Berry perimeter and the balance in Amcor. Michael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at Amcor00:55:59So what we've seen to date, bottom line, I think there's about $36,000,000 in that year to date of which $28 to 30,000,000 is actual transaction costs. So that's things like legal fees, consultant fees, financing charges. So we've got more of that to come through, and that will come through in the next couple of quarters. And then in addition to that, over the three year period, we're going to have around $280,000,000 of cash costs relating to the cost to achieve the synergies, again, which we'll call those out as we progress that over the term. Operator00:56:36Next up, we'll take a question from Arun Viswanathan, RBC Capital Markets. Arun ViswanathanSenior Equity Analyst at RBC Capital Markets00:56:44Great. Thanks for taking my question. Congrats on closing the merger. I guess I had two questions. So first off, going back to the growth side, Berry, think, struggled with low single digit volume growth for the last few years. Arun ViswanathanSenior Equity Analyst at RBC Capital Markets00:56:59They did have start to have some line of sight to that going forward, but it was somewhat elusive. So maybe you can just comment on if that's something that you see that's still within the crosshairs for the combined company? And then secondly, on the procurement side, I appreciate the math on the 2% to 3% reduction there and that does square with the synergy guidance. But it's just a little bit surprising given that Berry was already such a large buyer of resin as you were as well. And so I think you mentioned that there are many other terms that you can kind of work through to achieve those synergies. Arun ViswanathanSenior Equity Analyst at RBC Capital Markets00:57:42So can you just confirm that it's not just price? Could maybe long term supply agreements or whatever else to get those? Thanks. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:57:55Yes. Let me work through that. On the growth side, I would probably agree with the assessment of Berry's growth profile, low single digit growth. We have seen that. I would say that's not much different from what Amkor has seen over longer periods of time. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:58:14And we are going to have an opportunity as we combine the company to drive that into higher levels on a sustainable basis. The portfolio realignment and pruning will certainly help on that end. We have a broader product portfolio that we can offer to customers at scale and globally. We have leverage opportunities in the products that we talked about. Think about the established base of Amcor in Latin America and Asia Pacific and the various products that we can sell through the existing network. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:58:53And I Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:58:55would Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:58:55say those are the most important levers that we see plus, and that's the one that I was struggling with here, plus the innovation capabilities that we now have on a combined basis to drive functionality, but particularly also sustainability as we go forward that will differentiate our product portfolio going forward. So those are the four big levers that I would see to get ourselves into a stronger growth trajectory going forward, and we have made that a real priority for the company. So that's the growth side. On the procurement side, look, I don't know how much I can add to this, to be honest with you. I think the most important thing that we have is it's a very complementary buy, and the party that has the bigger scale typically has the better terms. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor00:59:43And that is something that we can roll out as we combine the two companies. So think in that direction because there is real value there. Now in terms of terms, yes, there is more than price and other things that you can look at, no question. And we will have to take a comprehensive approach. And we'll do all the things that you have at your fingertips to drive the conversation. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor01:00:08And we're not against long term supplier relationships if that drives value, mutual value on both sides. Operator01:00:16Good, everyone. That is all the time we have for questions today. This does conclude our question and answer session. I will now hand things back to Piquet for additional or closing remarks. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor01:00:26Yes. Thank you, operator. Look, thanks for the interest to everybody here on the call. I just want to make a comment here in closing. With the merger now completed, Umpgur really is better positioned than ever to meet customer and consumer needs as the markets continue to evolve. Peter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial Officer at Amcor01:00:45We are really thrilled to welcome our new colleagues, customers and shareholders. And as far as I'm concerned, this is day one of an exciting and an incredibly strong future for Amkor and all our stakeholders. Thank you, operator. Please close the call. Operator01:01:02Thank you, sir. And once again, everyone, that does conclude today's conference. We would like to thank you all for your participation today. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesTracey WhiteheadGlobal Head, Investor RelationsPeter KoniecznyInterim CEO & Chief Commercial OfficerMichael CasamentoExecutive VP of Finance & CFOAnalystsGhansham PanjabiSenior Research Analyst at BairdAnthony PettinariAnalyst at CitigroupDaniel KangHead of Basic Industrials, Australian Equities Research at CLSA LimitedMatthew RobertsEquity Research Analyst at Raymond James FinancialJakob CakarnisManaging Director, Equity Research at Jarden Australia Pty LimitedGeorge StaphosManaging Director at Bank of America Merrill LynchBrook Campbell-CrawfordAnalyst at BarrenjoeyJohn PurtellDivisional Director, Senior Analyst at Macquarie GroupMichael RoxlandMD - Equity Research at Truist SecuritiesKeith ChauResearch Analyst at MST FinancialNathan ReillyExecutive Director at UBS GroupSam SeowVice President at CitiCameron McDonaldMD - Head of Research at E&PArun ViswanathanSenior Equity Analyst at RBC Capital MarketsPowered by