DiamondRock Hospitality Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Hello, everyone, and welcome to DiamondRock Hospitality Company First Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. At this time, participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. Now it's my pleasure to turn the call over to the EVP, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer, Brianne Quinn.

Operator

The floor is yours.

Briony Quinn
Briony Quinn
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to DiamondRock's First Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Call and Webcast. Joining me today is Jeff Donnelly, our Chief Executive Officer and Justin Leonard, our President and Chief Operating Officer. Before we begin, let me remind everyone that many of our comments today are not historical facts and are considered to be forward looking statements under federal securities laws. As described in our filings with the SEC, these statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause future results to differ materially from what we discuss today. In addition, on today's call, we will discuss certain non GAAP financial information.

Briony Quinn
Briony Quinn
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

A reconciliation of this information to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measure can be found in our earnings press release. We are pleased to report that our results for the first quarter were largely in line with our expectations. Comparable RevPAR increased 2% over 2024 and total RevPAR increased 1.6%. Our urban footprint was the primary driver of the portfolio's RevPAR growth, up 5% on a strong contribution from both the group and business transient segments. The growth was steady throughout the quarter, with room revenues up 3.1% in January, up 2.6% in February, and up 5.4% in March.

Briony Quinn
Briony Quinn
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Food and beverage revenue at our urban hotels declined 3.3% year over year. This was mainly due to the Chicago Marriott's exceptional in house group programs with more extensive food and beverage contribution last year compared to this quarter where there was a larger proportion of citywide rooms only group with limited in house food and beverage spend. If we exclude the Chicago Marriott, food and beverage revenues at our urban hotels increased 5.5% instead of declining 3.3%, an eight eighty basis point swing. In anticipation of the question, total RevPAR growth excluding the Chicago Marriott was 2.5% or about 90 basis points higher than the reported 1.6% growth for the entire portfolio. Total expenses in our urban portfolio increased 2.1% on a 1.5 increase in wages and benefits.

Briony Quinn
Briony Quinn
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Hotel adjusted EBITDA margins increased 54 basis points. Switching to our resort portfolio, comparable RevPAR declined 2.1% over 2024 and total RevPAR was down slightly, just 40 basis points. Total revenues were up slightly in January and February, zero point '4 percent and zero point '9 percent, respectively, but declined 4.3% in March. Drilling into March, our resorts were largely flat through the first three weeks of the month, similar to January and February. But in late March, when we hit the comparison to Easter week in 2024, we experienced sharp year over year declines, supporting that much of the softness was driven by the calendar shift.

Briony Quinn
Briony Quinn
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Consistent with our comments on last quarter's call, we saw mid single digit revenue declines at our Florida assets, with first quarter RevPAR down 5.9% and total RevPAR down 4%. Outside of Florida, where our resorts skew a little more luxury, RevPAR increased 1.7% and total RevPAR increased 2.9%. For example, The Heights and Vail enjoyed a great ski season and saw RevPAR increase 7% and total RevPAR increased 9.5%. The margin story at our resorts is important and bears highlighting. We had great success managing costs in the face of top line softness to preserve profitability.

Briony Quinn
Briony Quinn
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

We reduced overall expenses by 2.4% compared to 2024, expanding our hotel adjusted EBITDA margin by 76 basis points to 32.5%. Group remained our strongest segment in the first quarter, as it did throughout 2024. First quarter group room revenues increased 10.4% over last year on a 5.2% increase in room nights. At our urban hotels, group revenues increased 14.4% on a 5.9% increase in room nights. We remain focused on adding groups to our resorts to build a base that will preserve pricing and improve profitability.

Briony Quinn
Briony Quinn
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Although group lead generation remains strong, the closure rates have been softer recently as event planners have been slow to make a final decision due to the unsettled macroeconomic environment. As of the end of the quarter, our booking pace for 2025 continues to be up slightly versus the same time last year. Turning to profits. Hotel adjusted EBITDA in the first quarter was $61,300,000 reflecting 2.2% growth over 2024 on a margin that was 39 basis points higher. Corporate adjusted EBITDA was 56,100,000 flat to last quarter.

Briony Quinn
Briony Quinn
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

And adjusted FFO was $0.19 per share, dollars $0.01 or 5.6% over 2024. Finally, free cash flow per share in the trailing four quarters calculated as AFFO less CapEx increased 10% to zero six three dollars per share over the prior four quarter period. Before I turn the call over to Jeff to discuss recent events, our updated outlook and strategy, let me touch on our dividend and our balance sheet. I want to reiterate that we intend to continue to pay an zero eight dollars per share quarterly dividend in 2025, and depending on our 2025 operating income, an additional stub dividend for the fourth quarter. Turning to the balance sheet.

Briony Quinn
Briony Quinn
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

During the quarter, we repurchased 1,400,000.0 shares of common stock at an average price of $7.85 We continued repurchases following quarter end, bringing the year to date total to approximately $16,000,000 or 2,100,000.0 shares. The average price equates to a trailing capitalization rate of a little over 10%. We have approximately 160,000,000 of capacity remaining on our share repurchase authorization. Finally, we have three mortgage loans totaling just shy of $300,000,000 maturing in 2025 at a weighted average cost of approximately 4.2%. We also have a $300,000,000 term loan maturity in early twenty twenty six that as of quarter end had an average cost of approximately 5.8% or 135 basis points over SOFR.

Briony Quinn
Briony Quinn
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

We continue to review the most cost effective options to refinance these maturities through a combination of an inaugural corporate debt issuance, placement of mortgage debt, and a recast of our corporate credit facility. At the current time, we believe a recast and upsize of our corporate credit facility is likely the most economical option for us to address our loan maturities. And this is factored into our updated 2025 guidance that Jeff will discuss. This updated assumption lowers our interest expense outlook by approximately $3,000,000 On that note, I'll turn the call over to Jeff.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Thanks, Briony, and thank you for joining us this morning. Let's start by reviewing capital projects, then transactions, and I'll conclude with comments on what we're seeing and how that drives how we're thinking about the rest of the year. First off, recall that we completed guest room renovations at the Westin San Diego Bayview in early twenty twenty four. RevPAR in the first quarter was up 28 against a competitive set that declined 8%, and NOI increased 65% year over year. We're looking to close out this project with minor changes to the lobby configuration to improve F and B potential by expanding the seating area and potentially offering a grab and go option.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

At Bourbon Orleans, we concluded a room renovation in late twenty twenty four that supported implementation of a resort fee. In the first quarter, other income increased over $200,000 or 90% versus first quarter twenty twenty four. For the year, we are forecasting a 1,000,000 increase in high margin other income at the Bourbon, implying a mid teen current yield on renovation cost. In the first quarter, we completed the room refresh at the Hilton Garden in Times Square and the product looks great. This is the first time the rooms have been refreshed since the hotel was constructed in 2014.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

RevPAR was down by over 16% due to displacement and we saw a $500,000 impact to EBITDA. In a market that runs close to 90% occupancy, the first quarter is the most cost effective window to execute such work. And our team did a great job executing here on time and on budget. Turning to Sedona, the renovation of our rooms at the Orchards is complete, and we are beginning the process of rebranding this property as The Cliffs Sedona. In fact, aerial photos on the website, thecliffssedona.com, will give you a good view of our location in the heart of Sedona and highly desirable views of the red rocks visible from every room of the hotel.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

All that remains is for the hillside work to be completed. This will create a new pool and bar area with stunning views of the red rocks and connect the Cliffs Hotel to our L'Oubert de Sedona that sits below on a shaded creek. Construction is well underway and will be completed by fall twenty twenty five. We are very excited about the repositioning opportunity and believe it will be an earnings and value driver. On the disposition front, we previously announced the sale of the Weston DC City Center Hotel for $92,000,000 during the quarter, which equated to close to a 5% trailing cash flow yield after CapEx.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

A portion of these proceeds were accretively recycled into repurchasing common shares at an average price of better than a trailing 10 cap rate. We continue to pursue opportunities to dispose of nonstrategic assets as well as opportunistic dispositions, all with a focus on recycling proceeds into the most attractive investment alternatives. There is nothing we can comment on at this time, but we hope to be able to share more soon. On the transaction front, there are a good number of high dollar resorts on the market with prices ranging from $500,000 to as much as $2,000,000 per key. All in pricing after CapEx is in the range of 5.5% to about a 7% cap rate.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Given our source of funds, our common shares, preferred equity and even our debt are among the most accretive reinvestment options today, but we are always actively looking for accretive recycling opportunities. Before I get into guidance, let's talk about what we are seeing real time. On the resort front, RevPAR growth was up about 1% in January, '4 point '4 percent in February and flat through about the first three weeks of March. It was only in the final days of March when the resorts were comparing against Easter week twenty twenty four that we saw RevPAR decline. Fast forward to mid April, and we saw significant year over year RevPAR spike at the same properties for Easter week twenty twenty five.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Moreover, the transient pickup for the second quarter remains consistent with last year. The point is that much of the choppiness seen thus far at our resorts seems to originate from holiday shifts and not the coincidental timing with negative macroeconomic headlines. Looking ahead, an unsettled economy may lead to more demand at the drive to resorts common in our portfolio versus costlier fly to destinations. Our direct exposure to foreign travelers is low. Nevertheless, foreign visitation to The U.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

S. Will likely be softer than initial expectations, and it is not clear whether the incremental demand from U. S. Travelers will be sufficient to backfill this potential gap. Currently, we are not seeing a meaningful shift in resort demand but remain vigilant.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

The long term secular drivers for US resorts remain strong, but recognize but we recognize near term performance could be soft. Nevertheless, we expect DiamondRock's drive to destinations will perform well in this environment. At our urban hotels, business transient demand increased in the mid teens during the quarter and trends are encouraging. As for group, it's important to remind everyone DiamondRock is building upon peak group room revenues in 2024. Given that backdrop, lead volume is still higher than last year.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Group pickup for 2025 or in the year for the year bookings increased in January and again in February, but we saw a pause in group pickup as we moved into the March. It is that pause, that deceleration in our lead conversion leading us to a more cautious stance on the back of 2025. The optimistic view is that group demand is there, and a little more confidence in an unsettled economy will convert business leads to revenue. Considering we've seen capitulation on many aspects of the unpopular trade policies, one could argue we're already moving toward a calmer environment. The cautious view is confidence arrives too late for the industry to fully recapture its prior potential.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Typically, dependent hotels in the market grow anxious and start discounting, which leads to lower revenue creation than may have otherwise occurred. Our decision to reframe our 2025 guidance was driven by healthy group lead volume and business transient demand on the one hand and the acknowledgment that a continuing pause in group pickup may make it more challenging for us to replicate the very strong group production we had in the back half of twenty twenty four. So let's get to our outlook for 2025. Our FFO per share guidance is unchanged at a range of $0.94 to $1.06 per share. We revised our full year 2025 RevPAR outlook to a range of minus 1% to plus 1% growth or about 200 basis points lower than our prior range.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Total RevPAR growth is expected to be the same in the minus 1% to plus 1% range. The lower and upper bound of our new full year range assumes RevPAR for the remaining three quarters of the year is down less than 2% at the low end and slightly positive at the high end. 2025 corporate adjusted EBITDA is expected to be in the range of $270,000,000 to $295,000,000 or $5,000,000 lower at the top and bottom than our previous guidance. This places the midpoint at $282,500,000 It bears noting that the revision includes the benefit of a $3,000,000 savings on our insurance placement. As Brownie mentioned, we have a bit of financing work to do in 2025 and included in our guidance is the assumption we will execute a credit facility recast to address near term debt maturities.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Adjusted FFO is expected to be in the range of 198 to $223,000,000 or $1,000,000 lower than prior guidance. Adjusted FFO per share is expected to be in the range of $0.94 to $1.6 which as I said earlier, is unchanged from our prior guidance in part because of the share repurchases as well as the flexibility our liquidity affords us to allow to pivot on our debt refinancing plans. In closing, the outlook is cloudy. Underlying trends were obscured rather than illuminated by the short lived doge days of spring coinciding with holiday shifts only to be immediately followed by the somewhat ironically named Liberation Day. It is my personal view the Trump administration will continue to soften their policies to settle the economy and improve the reelection potential of congressional Republicans in 2026.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

For this reason, I'm cautiously optimistic we'll see economic anxiety settle as we move through 2025. Regardless of the future path, increasing earnings per share remains our focus. Our greatest investment during the quarter, aside of course from the exciting work in Sedona, was the repurchase of our common shares, and we will continue to lean in on opportunities to continue to prudently grow earnings and create value while preserving flexibility. Thank you for your time this morning, and and we'll be happy to answer your questions.

Operator

Thank you so much. And to ask a question, simply press 11 on your telephone It comes from Smedes Rose with Citi. Please proceed.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Good morning, Smith.

Smedes Rose
Smedes Rose
Director at Citi

Thanks. Hi. You mentioned a little bit about some of the trends you're seeing in April. I just wondering, can you just share the preliminary portfolio wide RevPAR for April?

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Yes, we're Let me

Briony Quinn
Briony Quinn
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Yes, our preliminary April is showing a little better than 2% growth.

Smedes Rose
Smedes Rose
Director at Citi

Okay. Thank you. And then I guess I just wanted to ask you a little bit on the renovation projects that are underway. With the tariffs, etcetera, would you expect those costs to go up? Or are they already kind of locked in before all that went into effect?

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

I think it's a bit of a difficult answer because it really depends on which types of renovations you're talking about. And this kind of goes to the complexity, I think, that most people are in leadership positions and buying stuff from overseas or making decisions about. And I'll give you an example. We're renovating our hotel in Phoenix. We went very quickly from trying to understand what storage options were for a large order of FF and E that was being made in Vietnam to getting it on a boat as fast as possible when the tariffs were pushed back for ninety days so that we could get that FF and E in before the tariffs were reinstituted.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

So I think we're trying to be pragmatic without understanding exactly what the future is going to look for. I think for the summer window, the stuff that we have on order is likely all going to come in before the tariffs are imposed again. For the stuff that we have slated to start in November, we're in a bit of a pause trying to understand what the landscape is going look like.

Smedes Rose
Smedes Rose
Director at Citi

Okay, thank you.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Duane Pfennigwerth with Evercore ISI. Please proceed.

Duane Pfennigwerth
Senior Managing Director at Evercore ISI

Hey, thanks. Appreciate the detailed commentary. Just on group conversion pause, can you talk little bit about the profile of your average group? Are these corporates? Are these small businesses, associations, social gatherings?

Duane Pfennigwerth
Senior Managing Director at Evercore ISI

What types of events are we talking about? And do you have like an average group size?

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Yes, it's a good question.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

I would say it's going to run the gambit from associations to corporate. The other thing I would say is when you consider our average hotel, I mean, particularly take Chicago Marriott out of it. When you look at our average hotel, we're about a 200 to two fifty room hotel. So the nature of our groups tend to be a little shorter, book closer in. And for that reason, they are going to be smaller size.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

I don't have a number for you off the top of my head for what the average group size is, but I would say it's probably going to be about the size of those hotels at most. Chicago in particular and maybe Boston are going to be some of the ones where you see really a different sized group. But it really does run the gamut in terms of the mix of the source of that group.

Duane Pfennigwerth
Senior Managing Director at Evercore ISI

Got it. And then on that front, any markets in particular where you're excited about the group pacing? Thanks for taking the questions.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

I think Denver is showing some significant strength for us just given the citywide pace that's on the books. Actually for our hotel downtown, we don't participate in a

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

lot of those blocks.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

So the citywide pace is great for a little hotel that can compress around it. Salt Lake is also kind of a significant standout for us. I think we're finally seeing the benefit of the renovation that we did about a year and a half ago. San Diego also partly driven by the fact that we had some displacement from a renovation last year, but we're also seeing post renovation a nice uptick in group bookings.

Duane Pfennigwerth
Senior Managing Director at Evercore ISI

Thank you.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Of course.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Bellisario with Baird. Please proceed.

Michael Bellisario
Senior Research Analyst at Robert W. Baird & Co

Thanks. Good morning, everyone.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Good morning.

Michael Bellisario
Senior Research Analyst at Robert W. Baird & Co

Parter for me, sort of just along the same lines on group. I guess, maybe where are the holes in terms of dates as you look out for the rest of the year in terms of quarters? And then sort of secondarily, I guess, maybe for Justin, what's the updated revenue management strategy today to try to backfill some of those holes? Thanks.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Mean, for a guy in Chicago, Mike, I would think you'd know. I mean, the biggest holes for us are frankly more due to the comparable period than they are necessarily the cadence of where group bookings are. We just given D and C in Chicago in August, that just presents a pretty difficult comp for us in terms of backfilling that size of citywide business. And then, yes, I think probably November after that, we've got a little bit of a difficult comp given some of the business that was in Boston last year. From a revenue management perspective, I would say that we've actually been relatively steadfast on rate up to this point.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Maybe that is some of the cause of the lack of conversion. We're trying to shift people into more appropriate patterns in exchange for giving them a discount. We've had some success doing that and candidly trying to book transient into some of those holes. But I think we're not at a point where we feel like cutting rate is instigating demand. So it's a bit of a wait and see pattern, I think, for some of those further out holes on the transient front.

Michael Bellisario
Senior Research Analyst at Robert W. Baird & Co

Understood. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Chris Woronka with Deutsche Bank. Please proceed.

Chris Woronka
Chris Woronka
Analyst at Deutsche Bank

Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking the question. Jeff, you guys gave out a lot

Chris Woronka
Chris Woronka
Analyst at Deutsche Bank

of data points. I think one of

Chris Woronka
Chris Woronka
Analyst at Deutsche Bank

the things you mentioned was kind of the pause that maybe happened in March and April some of the group in the year for the year. The question is kind of what's, I guess, the average booking window for that stuff? And at what point do you say it's not coming back this year, or is it is it also you know, is it do you think it's partially a pricing issue where groups are just kind of, you know, using using this pause as a as leverage to try to get better better rates on on some of the smaller meetings?

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Yeah, I'm not sure if it's necessarily a pause to get better rates, that it's necessarily that strategic. I mean, maybe for larger groups, they would probably be looking for better terms around cancellation or attrition. So if they have uncertainty around how many folks are going to be attending their event or if they're coming from abroad, we might not be the host of the majority of that type of business. But I would say that our booking window for smaller groups tends to be four to six months out and for larger groups tends to be about eight to twelve months out.

Chris Woronka
Chris Woronka
Analyst at Deutsche Bank

Okay. Thanks. Super helpful. Then just a question. I know you guys had talked a lot last year about kind of the post renovation lift and Diagonia was one of the ones you highlighted.

Chris Woronka
Chris Woronka
Analyst at Deutsche Bank

Almost 5% RevPAR growth in Q1, not bad. But is that property, when you say that's kind of fully stabilized now and it's going to grow in line with the market? Or is there still more to go there? And I guess on your renovations that are going to wrap up this year, remind us of kind of how long you generally see before stabilization of the post reno benefits? Thanks.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Yes. The comment we had made when we announced that project was the property was doing about $10,000,000 in EBITDA, and we thought that eventually kind of its stabilization would be like, I think, around $16,000,000 15 million dollars 16 million dollars And we thought in its first year, would do about $12,000,000 I think it did about $14,000,000 if I recall, in its first year post renovation. So I think there's still some more room to go. We've actually come out of the blocks really or out of the gate really strong. So but I still think there's still potential there for us to have additional upside.

Chris Woronka
Chris Woronka
Analyst at Deutsche Bank

Our

Operator

next question comes from Flores Van Tyskum with Compass Point.

Floris van Dijkum
Managing Director at Compass Point Research & Trading

Hey, guys. Jeff, you're very you've become the new messenger in terms of shareholder value and cash flow per share. I love the messaging you're providing. Obviously, that's would suggest that you're not done with share buybacks. You've got about 100,000,000 left on the balance sheet in terms of cash and 158,000,000 of authority remaining.

Floris van Dijkum
Managing Director at Compass Point Research & Trading

In this environment, I know that your tenure as a CEO is perhaps more limited than some of your other peers. Is there a better opportunity out there right now to deploy capital besides buying back stock?

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Generally speaking, I would say no. I mean, we'll see what the environment brings. But at this point, I would say repurchasing our own shares is superior to certainly buying acquisitions in the marketplace.

Floris van Dijkum
Managing Director at Compass Point Research & Trading

And then maybe a follow-up question. You mentioned something about New Orleans and how you've instituted resort fees. Could you remind us what percentage of your hotels today charge resort fees? And is there any more incremental upside in bringing some of those on board?

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

I'm trying to think of the percentage off the top

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

of my head.

Justin Leonard
Justin Leonard
President & COO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

I know it's a I guess three quarters about maybe slightly less, but 70%, seventy five % would be my guess by number of rooms probably.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Yes. And our ability to try and charge those as a function oftentimes of if they're branded, do you have brand sort of permission and approval, but also what will the market bear? And in Bourbon where it's an independent hotel, we had more of a free hand, but we also had to make sure that the value proposition was there in order to sort of charge that fee. And so we've had good success there.

Floris van Dijkum
Managing Director at Compass Point Research & Trading

Great. Thanks.

Operator

Thanks. One moment for our next question. It comes from Jack Armstrong with Wells Fargo. Please proceed.

Michael Bellisario
Senior Research Analyst at Robert W. Baird & Co

Good morning, Jack.

Jack Armstrong
Jack Armstrong
Equity Research Associate at Wells Fargo

Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. What kind of shifts are you seeing in consumer behavior in terms of the booking window out of room spend? And is there a meaningful difference that you point out there between your higher end consumers versus more of your middle income drive to market?

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Don't know if there's a lot of trends in the relative short term since I think people feel like the work shifted. I think the window continues to get shorter. We've definitely seen that over the course of this year and maybe that's just people are less concerned about ultimately being squeezed out of particular dates. In terms of spend, we've seen on property spend be pretty much in line with, if not ahead of last year. We actually had growth in our food and beverage in the resorts over the first quarter, which we hadn't had for the previous two quarters.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

So we thought that was a pretty good sign to see even with spring break moving out of the quarter. And that was pretty universally spread between some of the lower ADR resorts and the higher or affluent customer based ones.

Jack Armstrong
Jack Armstrong
Equity Research Associate at Wells Fargo

Okay, great. And then on the cost side, what are some of the levers that are available to you if we enter a more notable macro slowdown? How does your current level of full time employees compared to pre pandemic and how does that impact your flexibility to cut costs?

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

I think we're definitely down in FTEs. I'd have to go back and look at the exact percentage. I'm certain that we're down in FTE count relative to pre pandemic. It's typical for this industry to find significant cuts and then be slow to sort of reinstitute them. So there's probably some more limit to what we could effectuate to the extent we went into a deep recession.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

I think we've got contingency plans for all of our hotels. The struggle that we have now is we're not seeing a market change in business or booking pattern. And so we're a little reticent to cut into service standards at the moment given that the guests are still showing up and paying very high rates. I think we've got a number of things between changing operating hours of outlets, changing service standards on the housekeeping side, we pretty much have a hiring freeze in place for the vast majority of hotels already at the moment. But there's a gradient of things that we can enact to the extent we start to see a fall off in demand.

Jack Armstrong
Jack Armstrong
Equity Research Associate at Wells Fargo

Okay, great. Thanks for taking the question.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Chris Darling with Green Street. Please proceed.

Chris Darling
Senior Analyst at Green Street Advisors, LLC

Hi, thanks. Good morning. I think you mentioned in the prepared remarks that wages and benefits were up about one point percent in the first quarter. I'm wondering how this compared relative to your expectations, and then what are you expecting for the rest of the year there?

Briony Quinn
Briony Quinn
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Yes, I think the wages and benefits came in about what we expected. We had a little favorable comp this quarter with some one time issues or one time costs and benefits last quarter that kept that growth rate down in the first quarter. I think we continue to expect our wages and benefit growth rate to be around 3% to 3.5% for the full year.

Chris Darling
Senior Analyst at Green Street Advisors, LLC

Okay. And then I want to go back to the question Floris asked about share repurchases. And Jeff, I'm just curious strategically how you think about incremental share repurchases relative to just bolstering your cash position. And I asked the question in the context of we're in a more uncertain environment now. I'd imagine it's a more difficult backdrop in which to sell assets, although it sounds like maybe there's still some progress on that front.

Chris Darling
Senior Analyst at Green Street Advisors, LLC

And the handful of mortgages that are maturing throughout the year. So any incremental thoughts would be helpful to hear.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

No, that's a great question. It's something that I made in my made a comment to in my prepared remarks about it's important to be driving value. And I think when you think about per share earnings, I think that's our magnetic north. But at the same time, I think maintaining liquidity and flexibility is critical in moments like this. I personally don't think we're on the verge of another global financial crisis or pandemic like outcome, where you really are sort of hoarding cash almost to the extreme.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

But it is something we're mindful of. And that's why, candidly, you look at the proceeds that came out of Washington, D. C, some portion of it went to repurchases, but some of it's used really to kind of manage the timing around repayment of debt this year as we sort of bridge towards a period of putting more permanent debt on. So I think that cash becomes sort of more freely available to us as the year goes on. But in the near term, it helps us, as I said, sort of bridge reworking your balance sheet.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

But I do think it's an important use of recycling proceeds into share repurchases.

Chris Darling
Senior Analyst at Green Street Advisors, LLC

All right. Makes sense. Thank you.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. Our last question is from Stephen Grambling with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed.

Stephen Grambling
Stephen Grambling
Managing Director at Morgan Stanley

Hey, thanks for taking the questions. I know you target these high barrier entry markets, but if you look across your entire portfolio, guess, what do you think competitive supply growth is this year? And are you seeing any change in behavior in developers in the markets from that you operate from the volatility we've seen broadly?

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Like I would say more just step back. I mean, I would say probably 40% to 50% of our markets are in places where you almost cannot build. I mean, it's sort of the Florida Keys or French Quarter or Sedona and markets like that, where there's either a very anti development stance or just by right, you're not allowed to build, like as I mentioned, like the French Quarter. So there's a big chunk of our portfolio that I think for a very long period of time will have almost no supply growth. And I think other markets right now, like development really doesn't pencil.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

So I wouldn't I don't have a specific number, but I think it would be probably close to 1% growth if you think about it over the next few years. But as in terms of near term trends, I mean, certainly, what's happened in the last thirty days has made financing even on acquisitions more difficult and more expensive. Imagine it's going to make development more costly to pencil. I don't know, Justin, if you think in the last three to six months,

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

if you've seen anything out

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

there on the development side, I haven't really I

Justin Leonard
Justin Leonard
President & COO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

mean, I've seen very little that's get announced, maybe one or two things that have involved public subsidy and they're going to need that in order to get over the finish line. I think candidly what we're more focused on is unfortunately, I think given the lack of development, the brands have been more focused on getting unit growth from brand acquisitions. And so where we do have branded outposts, kind of that continued acquisition on the brand front brings competitive supply, although not new rooms, competitive supply into a brand channel. So I think that's one of the things that we're particularly focused on and how do we insulate ourselves to some extent from that. Luckily, we don't have as much of a branded portfolio as some others, so we do have some defense against that.

Justin Leonard
Justin Leonard
President & COO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

But I think it's one of the things that we're watching.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Yes. One other thing I'd say, Stephen, is it's only a small glimpse, but in the public markets, there's a handful of companies that have purchased assets out of development. And you can see this just it tends to be a very difficult environment for that just given the high construction costs and the ramp that's associated with a development asset, it's just for us, at least, it's hard to justify not that you suggested we get into development, but it's hard to justify that relative to either your own shares or an acquisition where it's existing income on a lower basis.

Stephen Grambling
Stephen Grambling
Managing Director at Morgan Stanley

Understood. And maybe I missed this, but if the capital markets were to become more supportive, are there specific markets that you think look particularly interesting or you'd want to increase exposure through from M and A if we do get that kind of, I want to say, all is clear on the macro side, but at least maybe from a capital market standpoint?

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

There's specific markets necessarily think of it that way. Mean, we discuss some markets. Think more thematically, it's starting to find situations where you see an opportunity for a good recovery out there. And so, we have looked at some situations in the last six to twelve months where I'd say they probably skewed to more urban markets. To be clear, we're not abandoning a focus on resorts.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

It's just when you look at where can you find distressed assets or distressed owners, it can be more in the urban markets that just haven't rebounded yet.

Stephen Grambling
Stephen Grambling
Managing Director at Morgan Stanley

Value buying. Got it. All right. Thank you.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Yes.

Operator

Thank you. And this concludes our Q and A session for today. I will turn the call back to Jeff Donnelly for final comments.

Jeffrey Donnelly
Jeffrey Donnelly
Director & CEO at DiamondRock Hospitality Company

Just thank you everybody for joining us. If we don't see you next week at Wells Fargo's headquarters tour or their REIT conference, I'm sure we'll see you on the road this summer. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And this concludes our conference for today. Thank you all for participating and you may now

Executives
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      Briony Quinn
      Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer
    • Jeffrey Donnelly
      Jeffrey Donnelly
      Director & CEO
    • Justin Leonard
      Justin Leonard
      President & COO
Analysts

Key Takeaways

  • First quarter Comparable RevPAR rose 2% year-over-year and total RevPAR increased 1.6%, driven by a 5% increase in the urban footprint, while resort RevPAR declined 2.1% on calendar shifts and Easter week comparisons.
  • Excluding the Chicago Marriott, urban food and beverage revenue grew 5.5% year-over-year, reversing a 3.3% decline in total urban F&B revenues due to last year’s exceptional in-house group programs.
  • Effective cost control expanded margins, with urban hotel adjusted EBITDA margins up 54 basis points on 2.1% expense growth and resorts cutting expenses 2.4% to lift EBITDA margins 76 basis points to 32.5%.
  • Management returned capital through a maintained $0.08 quarterly dividend, $16 million in year-to-date share repurchases (2.1 million shares at $7.85), and free cash flow per share up 10% to $0.63 over the trailing four quarters.
  • For 2025, FFO per share guidance remains $0.94–$1.06, while full-year RevPAR growth is now expected between –1% and +1%, and corporate adjusted EBITDA guidance was lowered by $5 million to a $270–$295 million range.
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