Janus International Group Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Q1 revenue of $210.5 M was down 17.3% year-over-year and adjusted EBITDA margin contracted by 790 bps to 18.2%, driving adjusted EPS down 51.6%.
  • Structural cost reduction plan remains on track to deliver $10–12 M in annual pre-tax savings by end of 2025, with $1.5 M realized in Q1.
  • Generated $48.3 M in operating cash flow and $41.9 M in free cash flow, made a $40 M debt prepayment and repurchased $5.1 M of shares, ending the quarter with $217.1 M in liquidity.
  • Reaffirmed full-year 2025 guidance for revenues of $860–890 M and adjusted EBITDA of $175–195 M, expecting stronger performance in the back half.
  • Noki Smart Entry installations grew 5.2% sequentially to 384,000 units, underscoring momentum in the smart access segment.
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Janus International Group Q1 2025
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Operator

Hello, and welcome to the Janus International Group first quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Currently, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, you may press star, then zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to your host, Ms. Sara Macioch, Senior Director, Investor Relations of Janus. Thank you. You may begin, Ms. Macioch.

Sara Macioch
Sara Macioch
Senior Director of Investor Relations at Janus International Group

Thank you, Operator, and thank you all for joining our earnings conference call. I am joined today by our Chief Executive Officer, Ramey Jackson, and our Chief Financial Officer, Anselm Wong. We hope that you have seen our earnings release issued this morning. We have also posted a presentation in support of this call, which can be found in the investor section of our website at janusintl.com. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that today's call may include forward-looking statements. Any statements made describing our beliefs, plans, strategies, expectations, projections, and assumptions are forward-looking statements. The company's actual results may differ from those anticipated by such forward-looking statements for a variety of reasons, many of which are beyond our control. Please see our recent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which identify the principal risks and uncertainties that could affect our business, prospects, and future results.

Sara Macioch
Sara Macioch
Senior Director of Investor Relations at Janus International Group

We assume no obligation to update publicly any forward-looking statements, and any forward-looking statement made by us during this call is based only on information currently available to us and speaks only as of the date when it is made. In addition, we will be discussing or providing certain non-GAAP financial measures today, including adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margin, adjusted net income, and adjusted EPS. Please see our release and filings for a reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to their most directly comparable GAAP measure. On today's call, Ramey will provide an overview of our business. Anselm will continue with a discussion of our financial results and 2025 guidance before Ramey shares some closing thoughts and we open up the call for your questions. At this point, I will turn the call over to Ramey.

Ramey Jackson
CEO at Janus International Group

Thank you, Sara, and good morning, everyone. Thank you all for joining us today. I'm pleased with our start to 2025, with results mostly in line with our expectations despite ongoing macroeconomic volatility. Our team continues to execute well in this challenging environment, maintaining our focus on operational excellence and disciplined capital allocation while positioning the business for long-term success. The strength of our business model has enabled us to navigate these headwinds effectively while continuing to invest in the future. With that, let me start by highlighting a few key themes related to our first quarter results. First, despite ongoing market uncertainty, we're seeing growth in our backlog and continued stability in our pipeline. Second, we're making progress on our cost reduction plan, which is yielding tangible benefits. Third, we continue to demonstrate financial strength with robust cash generation and disciplined capital allocation.

Ramey Jackson
CEO at Janus International Group

Finally, we believe we are well positioned to navigate the current tariff environment. For the first quarter of 2025, we delivered revenue of $210.5 million, down 17.3% compared to the first quarter of 2024. Total self-storage saw a decrease of 23.1% given a decline in volume associated with the uncertainty in the economic and interest rate environment. Our commercial and other sales channels saw a decrease of 1% driven by a softness in the rolling steel door market, partially offset by contribution from our TMC acquisition completed last May. Our Nokē Smart Entry system continues to gain traction in the market, with 384,000 installed units at quarter-end, representing sequential growth of 5.2%. We are excited about the momentum we are building in this business and see opportunities for further growth as customer adoption of Nokē Ion continues in 2025.

Ramey Jackson
CEO at Janus International Group

While customers remain cautious about their liquidity and capital deployment in the current environment, we are confident in the underlying demand for self-storage solutions. The restructuring initiatives we implemented in 2024 are progressing well, with our structural cost reduction plan on track to deliver approximately $10 million-$12 million in annual pre-tax cost savings by the end of 2025. These actions are designed to improve margins, simplify our organizational structure, and enhance our operational efficiencies. From a financial standpoint, we continue to demonstrate the resilience of our business model. Our excellent cash flow generation and balance sheet have provided us the financial flexibility to make a voluntary prepayment of $40 million on our first lien term loan and repurchase 0.6 million shares for $5.1 million under our share repurchase program during the quarter. At quarter-end, we had $16.3 million remaining on our share repurchase authorization.

Ramey Jackson
CEO at Janus International Group

I'd like to take a moment to address tariffs and the potential expense impacts to Janus. While the bulk of our steel and material inputs are sourced domestically, we do have some exposure to components sourced from areas that we expect will be impacted by tariffs. We have dual sources for many of our components, which, coupled with our inventory on hand, allows us to mitigate much of our exposure to tariffs in 2025. At this time, we estimate the total potential expense impact related to tariffs for 2025 to be in the low single-digit millions. At the current expected tariff rates beyond 2025, we estimate the potential ongoing annual impacts to be in the range of $10 million-$12 million. We anticipate that our productivity and commercial actions will provide a mitigating effect against these impacts.

Ramey Jackson
CEO at Janus International Group

As we look ahead, we remain confident in the long-term fundamentals of our business. We expect the self-storage industry to continue to benefit from strong underlying demand drivers and believe there is significant opportunity for our R3 business, as consolidation across the self-storage industry, coupled with the average facility age exceeding 20 years, will lead customers focusing their capital allocation on existing properties. As an industry leader in self-storage solutions, our strong balance sheet, exceptional cash flow generation, and suite of innovative offerings position us well to deliver attractive long-term shareholder value. Now, I'll turn the call over to Anselm for a detailed review of our financial results and updates to our 2025 guidance. Anselm?

Anselm Wong
Anselm Wong
CFO at Janus International Group

Thanks, Ramey, and good morning, everyone. As Ramey highlighted, we continue to navigate a challenging macroeconomic environment and are pleased to deliver results that were largely in line with our expectations. In the first quarter, consolidated revenue of $210.5 million was 17.3% lower as compared to the prior year quarter, with declines in all three sales channels. Together, our self-storage business was down 23.1%. New construction was down 25.5%, while R3 was off 19.3% for the quarter. The decline in revenues for new construction was almost entirely due to a decline in volume associated with macroeconomic uncertainty and sustained high interest rates impacting liquidity, causing some customers to adjust project timing. The R3 decline was driven by a nearly 50% decrease in retail big-box conversions and facility expansion activity, partially offset by increases in door replacement and renovation activity.

Anselm Wong
Anselm Wong
CFO at Janus International Group

For the quarter, the impact to organic revenues was driven roughly 10% by price and 90% by volume. In the first quarter, the international segment saw total revenues increase by $6.5 million, or 44.2% compared to prior year. The change is attributable to increased volumes as a result of normalizing local market conditions compared to prior year, which was negatively affected by the U.K. recessionary period starting late fiscal 2023 and impacting most of fiscal 2024. Due to the international business's lower margin profile, this had a negative impact on the company's overall adjusted EBITDA margin. Our commercial and other segments saw a 1% decline in the first quarter, driven by market softness for rolling steel doors, largely offset by contribution from the TMC acquisition. First quarter adjusted EBITDA of $38.4 million was down 42.1% compared to the first quarter of 2024.

Anselm Wong
Anselm Wong
CFO at Janus International Group

This resulted in an adjusted EBITDA margin of 18.2%, a decrease of approximately 790 basis points from the prior year period. The decrease in profitability was due to lower volumes impacting our ability to leverage fixed costs, as well as impacts of geographic segment and sales channel mix. In the quarter, we realized approximately $1.5 million in savings associated with the previously announced cost reduction program, and we expect to realize approximately $10-$12 million in annual pre-tax cost savings by the end of 2025. For the first quarter, we produced adjusted net income of $17.7 million, a decrease of 51.6% from the prior year, and adjusted EPS of $0.13. We generated cash from operating activities of $48.3 million and free cash flow of $41.9 million in the quarter. On a trailing 12-month basis, this represents a free cash flow conversion of adjusted net income of 170%.

Anselm Wong
Anselm Wong
CFO at Janus International Group

Capital expenditures in the quarter were $6.4 million. We finished the quarter with $217.1 million in total liquidity, including $140.8 million of cash and equivalents on the balance sheet. Our total outstanding long-term debt at quarter-end was $557 million, and net leverage was 2.3 times, well within our target range of 2-3 times. Aided by our strong balance sheet and cash position to start the year, and consistent with our capital allocation priorities during the quarter, we repurchased 0.6 million shares for $5.1 million as part of our $100 million share repurchase program. At quarter-end, the company had $16.3 million remaining on its share repurchase authorization. We also made a voluntary prepayment of $40 million on our first lien term loan, which will lower our overall interest expense for the year by an estimated $2.2 million. The annualized impact is expected to be $2.7 million.

Anselm Wong
Anselm Wong
CFO at Janus International Group

Now, moving to our 2025 guidance. Based on our first quarter results, current visibility into our end markets, and current expectations of the direct impacts from tariffs, we are reaffirming our full-year guidance for revenues and adjusted EBITDA. We continue to expect revenues to be in the range of $860 million-$890 million and adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of $175 million-$195 million, reflecting an adjusted EBITDA margin of 21.1% at the midpoint. As we look at the cadence of results for the year, we reiterate our expectation for results to strengthen the back half of 2025. Additionally, as the year progresses, we expect our customers to begin shifting their focus towards R3 initiatives as facility owners focus more on optimizing and upgrading existing properties over new construction.

Anselm Wong
Anselm Wong
CFO at Janus International Group

As a reminder, the margin profiles for new construction and R3 are similar, so we are agnostic about moves between the two sales channels. New construction is expected to remain soft in the first half of the year as we work through customers' extended project timelines. We continue to anticipate being near the higher end of the free cash flow conversion of adjusted net income target range of 75%-100% in 2025. Please refer to the presentation we have posted for additional details on our key planning exceptions for 2025. Thank you. I will now turn the call over to Ramey for his closing remarks. Ramey.

Ramey Jackson
CEO at Janus International Group

Thank you again, Anselm. Despite the challenges we face in the first quarter, I'm encouraged by the positive signals we're seeing in our business, including growth in our backlog and the continued stability of our pipeline. While the broader market environment remains in flux, our strong balance sheet and cash flow generation give us significant flexibility and optionality to continue investing in our business while seeking out and delivering accretive shareholder value-enhancing opportunities. The strategic alignment and resilience of our business model are reflected in our reaffirmed 2025 guidance. We believe we're well positioned to deliver long-term value for all stakeholders. A big thank you to our employees, customers, and shareholders for your continued support. Again, thank you for joining us. Operator, we can now open up the lines for Q&A.

Operator

At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. You may remove yourself from the queue at any time by pressing star two. Once again, that is star one to ask a question. We'll take our first question from Jeff Hammond with KeyBanc. Please go ahead.

Jeff Hammond
Jeff Hammond
Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets

Hey, good morning, guys.

Ramey Jackson
CEO at Janus International Group

Morning, Jeff.

Jeff Hammond
Jeff Hammond
Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets

Morning, Jeff. Just listening to the public self-storage rates, it seems like fundamentals are stabilizing or maybe moving a little off the bottom. I know rates are still stubborn, but just wondering, one, what's the latest that you're seeing on kind of the pacing of some of these project delays starting to break free and move through the backlog? And two, just how would you characterize order activity and the pipeline behind it?

Anselm Wong
Anselm Wong
CFO at Janus International Group

Yeah, great question, Jeff. We're seeing the movement like we saw in Q4 that projects are moving in the pipeline. Unfortunately, still some of the stubborn rates that you mentioned. In terms of pipeline and backlog, we're seeing just a steady small growth in both of those categories as well. I think pretty good indication that stuff is moving.

Ramey Jackson
CEO at Janus International Group

Yeah, just to add to that, Jeff, there's no question we're looking at kind of the churn rates kind of pre-pandemic around 300 days. They're currently sitting around 500 days, so there's no question that it's maintained. It's been pushed out and seems to be fairly consistent moving forward.

Jeff Hammond
Jeff Hammond
Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets

Just pipeline?

Ramey Jackson
CEO at Janus International Group

Yeah, both. Both orders and pipeline have been on an uptick since the beginning of the year. Super happy with where we are there, and it continues to grow.

Jeff Hammond
Jeff Hammond
Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. And then just on—appreciate the color on tariffs. Just on price, I think in your guide, you were originally saying, I think, price down, high single digits. It was only 2% down in one Q. I'm assuming you're probably seeing some steel inflation and some of the tariff inflation. I'm just wondering how you're thinking about price downs relative to 90 days ago. And then just is the offset lower volumes, or maybe that's an upside situation?

Anselm Wong
Anselm Wong
CFO at Janus International Group

Yeah, no, exactly. You think about the pricing where we get end users for the full year, and we said it would blend into the year as we bleed off some of the older projects and some of the newer ones. That is why Q1 was not as impacted as much from a pricing point of view.

Jeff Hammond
Jeff Hammond
Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. And then just real quick on the tariff number, just help me understand the low single digit million this year versus the $10 million-$12 million kind of on a full-year run rate.

Anselm Wong
Anselm Wong
CFO at Janus International Group

Yeah. If you think about it, we have a—as you know how we buy our inventory, we have a decent amount of inventory already for the year. It is not as—you are not getting a full-year impact for that. When we actually looked at kind of our inventory positions as well as some of our mitigating actions, that is kind of how we got down to a much smaller impact for 2025. If you look into next year on an annualized basis, that $12 million there is if there are no mitigation actions at all. Obviously, with our normal processes in terms of sourcing things, we are currently looking at renegotiating some of those items as well as looking at other sources in addition to just general productivity to mitigate that for 2026.

Jeff Hammond
Jeff Hammond
Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. Thanks.

Ramey Jackson
CEO at Janus International Group

Thanks, Jeff.

Operator

We'll go next to Phil Ng with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Phil Ng
Phil Ng
Analyst at Jefferies

Hey, guys. I guess follow up on that question on pricing. Certainly better than expected. Maybe that's timing, and that's just kind of kicking a little more fully in the coming quarters. Help us kind of think through what you're seeing on the pricing front. Certainly, steel prices have moved up. You have some level of hedging. Maybe that's helpful. Is that an opportunity for pricing to get better, perhaps, in the back half? Maybe an opportunity to kind of pick up some share just given your competitors, your smaller competitors are probably a little less equipped to kind of navigate through some of the supply challenges and certainly tariffs as well?

Anselm Wong
Anselm Wong
CFO at Janus International Group

Yeah. Great question, Phil. I think if you look at it from a price point of view, there's a bit of timing, like you said. That's why the impact is not as much. I think if you look at steel, the suppliers have tried to kind of raise the price. I think ultimately, it's going to be dictated by real demand. The demand hasn't been there. That's why you see it fall back to a lower level than what the initial indication was. It'll be—look, like we've always said about our steel, we've got a good process how we buy it. We're managing it. If it does step up at the end of the year, we have the ability to put in commercial actions to mitigate if we need to.

Phil Ng
Phil Ng
Analyst at Jefferies

Okay. That's great color. Then on the R3 side of things, a few things, right? I mean, the retail conversions has been a drag. When does that comp out? I think, Ramey, your comment suggested that perhaps some of your customers are pivoting from new construction to R3. Any real tangible signs that's going to come through in the back half or later this year, just based on orders and bidding, and how does that kind of ripple through? Any color on some of the rebranding efforts that's out there from some of your larger institutional customers?

Anselm Wong
Anselm Wong
CFO at Janus International Group

Yeah. So you're right. I think it's getting really low, the retail conversion piece of it. We've always said that there'll always be some amount of it. You're right. That's kind of why you saw the negative in terms of R3 slow up much better this quarter. What I would expect going forward is that it'll be at a steady state there because of retail conversion. I think Ramey probably just can address the other question in terms of kind of what we're seeing. I can tell you, when we're looking at our backlog right now, we're starting to see incremental increases in that R3 piece where our customers are starting to put more projects of R3. Obviously, they come in various sizes, but we're starting to see that starting to increase.

Ramey Jackson
CEO at Janus International Group

Yeah. Just to follow up, specifically on the rebranding, that opportunity is well underway. We are obviously partnering with our customers to accommodate that. You have heard me talk about that. That is a multi-year opportunity, specifically on the large one that you know of. To Anselm's point, we are seeing others, more institutional operators, accelerate that by way of remix, full renovations, a little bit of expansion, and then office upgrades. That has been a pleasant surprise in terms of the way that they are allocating capital. I will say on the non-institutional side of the business, they are pretty much on the sidelines from any CapEx expenditure at this time.

Phil Ng
Phil Ng
Analyst at Jefferies

Ramy, any color on how this kind of progresses and ramps up? Backlog is getting better, R3 is great. How does that kind of ripple through? Does that dial up in the back half, or this is more of a 2026 event?

Ramey Jackson
CEO at Janus International Group

No, it does. It certainly dials up in the back half. As you know, these are projects that we've been working on for a while. Have great visibility to the way the R3 program works. I mean, there's touch points all throughout the process. And so we're super comfortable with the timing because we play a big part in that in terms of tenant notification and just the project management side of it. Our expectations will certainly accelerate in the second half.

Phil Ng
Phil Ng
Analyst at Jefferies

Okay. Appreciate the color.

Operator

We'll go next to Dan Moore with CJS Securities.

Will Gildea
Will Gildea
Analyst at CJS Securities

Hi. This is Will on for Dan. Last quarter, you started to see signs of stabilization in commercial. Has that continued, or has tariff and economic uncertainty impacted that momentum?

Ramey Jackson
CEO at Janus International Group

Yeah, it certainly has stabilized. We're seeing some growth in certain product lines, some opportunity in the carport and shed. As we've previously announced, we've positioned a door center kind of in the hub of where that product line is manufactured. We're taking aggressive steps to gain share there. I would say the only thing that is relatively flat, and it kind of came through on our numbers this quarter, would be the commercial sheet door, which is typically its application is in metal buildings. As you probably know, that sector is depressed, I would say probably at a bottom right now. Any movement upward, we'll certainly get the benefit of that moving forward.

Will Gildea
Will Gildea
Analyst at CJS Securities

Thank you. In self-storage, a lot of small and mid-sized customers started delaying projects as long as a year ago. Of those projects that have been on the shelf for six to nine months or longer, are you starting to see more cancellations? Or conversely, are you starting to see more starts to move forward?

Ramey Jackson
CEO at Janus International Group

Yeah, we're starting to see more starts move forward. That's the best way to think about it. In terms of cancellations, we haven't seen anything out of the ordinary from cancellations of the backlog.

Will Gildea
Will Gildea
Analyst at CJS Securities

Thank you.

Ramey Jackson
CEO at Janus International Group

Thank you.

Operator

We'll go next to John Lovallo with UBS.

John Lovallo
John Lovallo
Analyst at UBS

Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my questions as well. The $10 million-$12 million of pre-tax cost savings from structural cost reductions still remains in place. You guys realized about $1.5 million in the first quarter. How should we sort of think of the cadence of those savings through the year? What are some of the projects that are going to allow you to kind of drive those savings?

Anselm Wong
Anselm Wong
CFO at Janus International Group

Sure. Thanks for your question, John. If you think about the cadence, we should probably be at a full run rate at the end of Q2 for those savings. There are various items, obviously, in our cuts, goods sold in terms of resetting our labor force for the volume that we're delivering. Then also in our G&A lines that we're doing some leases that we no longer needed. It is on pace there. There is opportunity for incremental that we're seeing as we work through them as well.

John Lovallo
John Lovallo
Analyst at UBS

Got it. And then on the Nokē installed units, 384,000, I think that was up about 5% sequentially, which is good. But it seems like the growth has kind of moderated a bit over the past few quarters. How are you kind of thinking about it through the remainder of the year and sort of the longer-term adoption?

Anselm Wong
Anselm Wong
CFO at Janus International Group

Yeah. I think it's still going pretty strong for the new product, Nokē Ion. I think as we always talked about, as the install base gets bigger, then obviously the sequential growth is going to get a bit small because you've got a much larger base. I think we're still bullish on the opportunity for the rest of the year and going into next year because the new product is really hitting a lot of the expectation what the customers were looking for.

John Lovallo
John Lovallo
Analyst at UBS

Okay. Fantastic. Thank you, guys.

Anselm Wong
Anselm Wong
CFO at Janus International Group

Thanks, John.

Operator

This does conclude today's question and answer session. I will now turn the program back over to Ramey for any additional or closing remarks.

Ramey Jackson
CEO at Janus International Group

Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We appreciate your support of Janus International and look forward to updating you on our progress. Have a great day.

Operator

This does conclude today's program. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect at any time.

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