NYSE:AVD American Vanguard Q1 2025 Earnings Report $1.72 -0.02 (-1.26%) Closing price 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$1.71 -0.01 (-0.47%) As of 07:30 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast American Vanguard EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.24Consensus EPS -$0.03Beat/MissMissed by -$0.21One Year Ago EPS$0.06American Vanguard Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$127.00 millionExpected Revenue$127.00 millionBeat/MissMet ExpectationsYoY Revenue GrowthN/AAmerican Vanguard Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2025Date6/6/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateFriday, June 6, 2025Conference Call Time9:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsAmerican Vanguard's Q3 2026 earnings is estimated for Monday, November 9, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled at 9:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by American Vanguard Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJune 6, 2025ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways In Q1, net sales fell to $116 M from $135 M last year and adjusted EBITDA dropped to $3 M versus $15.5 M. Operating expenses were cut by $5 M and net trade working capital improved by $86 M year-over-year. Full-year guidance was lowered to $535–545 M in revenue and $40–44 M in adjusted EBITDA, down from prior targets of $545–560 M revenue and $45–52 M EBITDA. Channel inventories are at historic lows, and Q2 orders suggest customers are beginning to replenish stocks, pointing to a stronger second half. The company disclosed material weaknesses in its internal controls and missed SEC filing deadlines due to staffing and ERP implementation issues; a remediation plan is underway. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallAmerican Vanguard Q1 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Greetings, and welcome to the American Vanguard First Quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode, and a question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Mr. Anthony Young. Sir, you may begin. Anthony YoungHead of Investor Relations at American Vanguard Corporation00:00:33Thank you, Ali. Good afternoon and welcome to American Vanguard's First Quarter 2025 earnings review. Our prepared remarks will be led by Dak Kaye, Chief Executive Officer, and David Johnson, Chief Financial Officer. We have prepared presentation slides, which are posted on the Investor Relations section of the American Vanguard website. Let's begin this call with our forward-looking cautionary reminder. During this call, we may discuss forward-looking information. All forward-looking statements are estimates by the company's management and are subject to various risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ. Such factors include weather conditions, changes in regulatory policy, and other risks as detailed in the company's SEC reports and files. All forward-looking statements represent the company's judgment as of the date of this release, and such information will not necessarily be updated by the company. Anthony YoungHead of Investor Relations at American Vanguard Corporation00:01:32It's now my pleasure to turn the call over to CEO, Dak Kaye. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:01:37Thank you, Anthony, and welcome everyone to our First Quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Let me start with a view from 10,000 ft. The year 2024 was one of great change at American Vanguard and was then capped off by a prolonged financial close and audit that delayed our Form 10-K and consequently the 10-Q, which David will cover shortly. However, our final audited numbers were substantially similar to the unaudited results we published in March. In spite of tough market conditions, I'm happy to report that we were able to drive improvement in the areas that are within our control. For example, during Q1, our operating expenses dropped by $5 million, and net trade working capital was reduced by $86 million, both in comparison to last year. We are beginning to see the benefits of our transformation efforts. Further, channel inventories in the U.S. are at historic lows. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:02:41While customers were able to hold down their working capital during the first quarter, we can see they are starting to replenish their stocks now. Indeed, based upon orders to date, we are seeing a stronger second quarter and expect the remainder of 2025 will be solid. We are well positioned to respond to rising market trends while continuing to improve our operating leverage. Now, turning to our first quarter of 2025 financial results, the company generated net sales of $116 million as compared to $135 million in the year-ago period and reported $3 million of adjusted EBITDA as compared to $15.5 million in the year-ago period. There were some specific items in the first quarter of 2024 that positively impacted that period, which we will address later. The first quarter of 2025 was somewhat weaker than we had initially anticipated. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:03:42This was based upon the opinion formed at the end of 2024 that pretty much all of the stocking had finished. Industry data indicates that our product is being applied in the field, but our customers did not replenish their stocks as quickly as our product was being consumed. Thus, the trend of destocking continued in the first three months of 2025. We also made decisions to adjust our program strategy to keep up with programs that our competitors were deploying at the end of the first quarter. Top-line revenue and gross profit were impacted by these developments. In addition to this dynamic, we did not have access to a previously canceled product. We saw a weakness in the Mexican agave market and drought conditions in Australia. I would also like to highlight two bright spots in our portfolio. Metam sales were up 14% in the quarter versus last year. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:04:41This is our largest single product and continues to be well-respected in the market. Diamond sales were also up 17%, and this could be attributed to the increase in peanut acreage that was planted this year. I must admit we have faced several challenges in my first five months, but I continue to be impressed with the team at American Vanguard. The opportunity to transform this business largely stands in front of us. We have taken some initial steps to improve the business, but the ongoing weakness of the current cycle has prevented this progress from being fully realized when considering our recent financial results. We expect this hard work should begin to materialize in the upcoming quarters. Two areas of improvement that I would like to highlight are our focus on cost containment and our improvement in our net working capital accounts. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:05:38First, in the area of cost containment, I have advised the team to continuously evaluate where we can take costs out of the business. Overall, OPEX is down $5 million in the first quarter as compared to a year-ago period. We expect to continue to wring further costs out of the business as part of our transformation plan, but this was a strong start to this effort. The team has also done an admirable job of managing net working capital, showing an improvement of $86 million as compared to this time last year. Our SIOP process allowed us to limit our inventory build, while our management of accounts receivable and accounts payable allowed us to limit the amount of debt that was necessary to operate the business. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:06:26I was surprised by how much working capital was consumed by the company before I arrived, and we plan to operate this business in a leaner fashion going forward, which will allow the business to generate higher returns over the long term. Before I turn the call over to David, I did want to address our 2025 revenue and EBITDA guidance. We have analyzed our supply chain, and we believe the impact from any tariffs will be nominal to our cost of goods sold. In fact, given our U.S.-based footprint, any long-term tariffs may create opportunities for American Vanguard. Given our weak first quarter and a market that is only beginning to recover, we are decreasing our full-year adjusted EBITDA target range to $40-$44 million from $45-$52 million, and we are adjusting our revenue estimate to $535-$545 million. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:07:24While we are beginning to see early stages of a recovery, we do not want to forecast an overly optimistic outlook at this juncture. I'll return after David provides his remarks to give some additional industry commentary covering the short-term trends and expectations. I now turn the call over to David, our CFO. David JohnsonCFO at American Vanguard Corporation00:07:46Thank you, Dak. Good afternoon, everybody. Before discussing our financial performance for the quarter, I would like to address the late 10-K and 10-Q filings. We are pleased to have filed both documents with the SEC, but as many participants on this call are aware, these documents were filed after their SEC deadline. The company accomplished a great deal during the financial close, including performing a detailed review and impairment assessment of the company's major assets. At the same time, the company identified several internal control matters at the company's relatively small Australian subsidiary due to insufficient staffing. The company also had to work through a number of matters related to customer programs. In an unrelated situation, the company has talked a lot about their efforts to implement one standard ERP platform across all of our entities. David JohnsonCFO at American Vanguard Corporation00:08:37These efforts resulted in a number of implementation matters the company had to address. All these matters, when taken together, resulted in the corporate finance team being unable to meet the SEC deadline for filing the 10-K, which ultimately resulted in our assessment of related material weaknesses in the company's internal controls. The company is working on a remediation plan to resolve those material weaknesses. These matters related to the filing of the 2024 financial statements also led to a corresponding delay in the filing of the first quarter financials for 2025. Having said all that, as you may recall, we had published unaudited year-end financial information in March. Now that we have filed our financials, we have been able to report only minor changes from our prior announcement. David JohnsonCFO at American Vanguard Corporation00:09:26First, adjusted EBITDA for 2024 decreased to $40 million as compared to the $42 million unaudited figure, while net sales were $547 million as compared to the unaudited $550 million previously indicated. The main reason for the adjustment was related to customer prepayment programs, where the company identified an adjustment after the initial release. Further, final debt ended $9 million lower than initially indicated due to final adjustments related to debt and accounts payable. Turning to financial performance, our first quarter 2025 revenue was $116 million, a decrease of 14% as compared to the first quarter of 2024. The primary reasons for the decrease were, first, as Dak just mentioned, destocking continued in the quarter. Secondly, the absence of a voluntarily canceled herbicide from our product portfolio. Third, weakness in the Mexican agave market. Finally, a drought in parts of Australia impacting sales of certain products. David JohnsonCFO at American Vanguard Corporation00:10:41Further, market-related factors also dampened our first quarter performance. For instance, in response to aggressive competition in the challenging first quarter market, we implemented increased incentive programs. Gross profit margin declined to 26% during the quarter as compared to 31% last year. This decline in gross profit margin was primarily related to a weaker pricing environment and to a lesser degree lower volume. Our operating costs were well controlled and were down approximately $5 million, excluding transformation expenses and a one-time benefit recorded in the first quarter of 2024 related to the settlement of a long-time data compensation match. We made substantial improvements in our working capital accounts. As I have mentioned in previous conference calls, our business cycle typically leads to an inventory build during the first two quarters of the year as we prepare to meet the needs of our customers in the second half. David JohnsonCFO at American Vanguard Corporation00:11:43However, this year, our inventory only increased by approximately 3% since the year-end of 2024 and has decreased 20% as compared to this time last year, resulting in improved inventory terms. We are pleased with this progress and believe further improvements are possible. We are highly focused on managing net trade working capital and were successful in the first quarter, ending with working capital $86 million lower than this time last year. Along with better control of working capital, we ended the quarter with debt approximately $20 million or 14% lower than this time last year. It is likely that debt will trend higher during the second quarter, which is normal for the company's annual cycle. Our focus on controlling our working capital levels going forward should help to minimize the debt we need to run the business. David JohnsonCFO at American Vanguard Corporation00:12:36Ultimately, we expect this focus will help to create higher returns for shareholders. With regard to debt, because our current credit agreement matures in the third quarter of 2026, we have already begun to work with our lenders to put in place a longer-term capital structure. We are looking at a wide range of options to replace the current credit agreement. Because the current interest rate environment is quite challenging, we expect that new interest rates will likely be higher than our current credit agreement. Our focus is to obtain flexible financing that will give the company ample working capital both to operate and grow, which is one of the highest priority initiatives at the company at this time. Looking forward to the balance of 2025, we expect that CapEx will fall in the $8-$9 million range. David JohnsonCFO at American Vanguard Corporation00:13:31Thus, we expect to generate reasonably strong free cash flow this year. As we said in our last quarterly call, we expect virtually all free cash flow to be allocated towards debt paydown as we look to further strengthen our balance sheet. In summary, the financial performance of the first quarter was weaker than a year-ago period, but we believe that we managed well in the areas that were under our direct control: operating expenses, inventory, accounts payable, and debt levels. While the broader agricultural market is in the very early innings of a recovery, if we continue to execute against our transformation plan, we will be well positioned for a cyclical upturn. With that, I'll turn the call back to Dak. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:14:22Thank you, David. Before we close, I thought I would provide some thoughts on what we are seeing in the agricultural economy. I do not want to sound too optimistic as the level of economic uncertainty remains extremely high, but based upon what I have seen during my more than 15 years as an executive in the crop protection industry, inventory levels have been drawn down to a point where any recovery in buying patterns is going to lead directly to an increase in demand, which will lead to higher volumes or pricing, and possibly both higher volumes and pricing. That is the nature of operating in a cyclical industry like ours. We have included a chart in the slide deck, which shows that inventory levels at our distributors are down by nearly 23% as compared to a year-ago period. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:15:15We should note the industry has already been involved in 18-24 months of destocking. While inventories have been drawn down, industry data indicates that corn plantings are at a historically high level. In fact, corn acreage is forecast to be at its highest level since the 2013-2014 season, which was a reasonably strong period for crop protection companies. As I stated previously, based upon industry data, we can see that our product is being applied in the field and we are not losing market share. Thus, we believe our portfolio is well positioned should the season go as forecasted by the USDA. Cotton acreage is looking incrementally softer than last year, but growers are switching to peanuts, which is also an area of strength for us, with Thimet being one of our most popular products, which is used in peanuts. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:16:11We can see a recovery beginning, but we will need to achieve clarity on tariffs and gain further confidence in agricultural commodity pricing before a cyclical upswing can commence. Important agreements have been reached by some global trading partners, but based upon our conversation with customers, a high level of uncertainty remains in the market on how the global trade landscape will adjust to the additional barriers that may be forthcoming. While we wait for this recovery, we will execute on our business transformation, which should lead to improved financial results. We'll look to take further costs out of the business, continue to improve our net working capital position, and importantly, make smart investments that improve the positioning of our product portfolio. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:17:01As I stated in the last conference call, one of the reasons that I took this job was that I believe American Vanguard is a business that can be fixed. I've just highlighted a few fixes that I've implemented in my first few months here, but there is much more that can be accomplished. We continue to execute against the playbook we developed with our consultants, but the team also continues to find additional areas where we can take costs out of the business. As we chip away at the cost structure, our long-term goal of achieving a 15% adjusted EBITDA margin through the cycle appears more achievable, but it will take a few years to get there. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:17:41While we have gone through some challenges, I remain extremely excited about the future and our goals remain the same: to position this company to be the trusted provider of proven agricultural and environmental solutions. With that, I'll open the call for questions. Operator. Operator00:18:01Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting our question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue, and you may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the Star keys. One moment, please, while we pull for questions. Thank you. Our first question is coming from Ben Klieve with Lake Street Capital. Your line is live. Ben KlieveAnalyst at Lake Street Capital Markets00:18:42All right. Thanks for taking my questions. First one, Dak, for you. I'm curious if you can elaborate a bit on kind of the cadence of the year-over-year top-line performance here on a year-to-date basis. Basically, on the fourth quarter call in mid-March, you kind of suggested that the destocking period was kind of neutralized, which is, which today it sounds like is the case now, but maybe wasn't necessarily the case at the very beginning of the year. Can you talk about the kind of year-over-year performance from January through to where we are in early June? Have things been progressing favorably throughout the year? And how bad was it in January relative to how good it may be in June now? Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:19:33Yeah. Thanks, Ben. Excuse me. Thanks, Ben, for the question. Appreciate it. From a year-over-year basis, I mean, you have to consider the Dacthal, the product that we removed from the market. That was a fairly sizable year-over-year amount that came out in the first quarter of this year. That is the biggest change in top-line sales from the previous quarter. We had the agave Bromosil product in Mexico. That is the next biggest change that we had down in Mexico. The next one was the drought in Australia. Those are the three biggest changes in the top line. We did have some positives with the Metam sodium and the Thimet that offset some of the others, but those were the primary changes year-over-year in the top-line sales. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:20:28Addressing your destocking, the levels that we saw at the beginning of the year in the channel suggested that the inventories had been destocked, but it just continued through all the way to April from our last standpoint to a level that in the channel is what we see in the inventory at a level that is historical lows is what we see. We get this information from Data Services, and that's the reason we have confidence in it. It appears to be a historical low, and it just continued through the first quarter. As we see now, we do see positive trends in May and June related to our sales. That demand seems to be being replenished. I don't know if we can't tell at the moment if they're going to build inventory. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:21:22That's the uncertainty part of it, but the destocking appears to have bottomed out, but that's to be determined. Ben KlieveAnalyst at Lake Street Capital Markets00:21:32Okay. Helpful. I guess, David, let me ask you a question, and then, Dak, I have got a follow-up to this. I definitely understand and I think everybody expected the year-over-year headwinds from Dacthal. Can you isolate the first quarter EBITDA and revenue contributions from Dacthal? Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:21:52Yeah. I've got that right. It's top line $6 million and margin 30.5%. Ben KlieveAnalyst at Lake Street Capital Markets00:22:0130.5%. That margin is on a gross margin basis or operating margin? Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:22:06Gross margin. Ben KlieveAnalyst at Lake Street Capital Markets00:22:07Okay. Very good. If you back out, Dak, this dynamic with Dacthal and Bromosil, kind of the balance of your portfolio, it seems to be effectively flat year-over-year. Australia, Bromosil, Dacthal, those were the headwinds. Kind of the balance of your portfolio was effectively flat. Is that a fair characterization? Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:22:39I'd say that it's effectively flat with the highlights being on the other side, Metam sodium and Thimet. Metam sodium is our largest product, and it continues to be a strong core product in our portfolio. It's resilient. It's stable. We did see an uptick in sales in the first quarter of Metam sodium. The Thimet, that demand was directly associated with the increase in peanut acres that we've seen offsetting the cotton acres primarily in the Southeast. Ben KlieveAnalyst at Lake Street Capital Markets00:23:14Okay. Very good. A few other questions for me. First of all, I know seasonality in this era is really difficult to forecast, but I'm wondering if you can help us understand kind of what your top-line seasonality expectations throughout 2025. I mean, first quarter is relative to the midpoint of your guidance. The first quarter numbers look to be about 20% of your overall revenue for the full-year basis. Can you help us kind of look to the Q2, Q3, Q4 outlooks as a percentage of revenue? Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:23:55Yeah. I don't have the percentages right at my hand on a quarter-by-quarter basis, but overwhelmingly, the second half of the year is our strong season with the soil fumigants, Metam sodium being one of those driving the top-line sales in that period. The second half of the year is always the strongest for us. Based upon what we see in the destocking, I don't have no idea, nothing comes to mind that would prevent that being continuing in 2025. Ben KlieveAnalyst at Lake Street Capital Markets00:24:32Okay. So still a sharp second-half skew. Okay. Very good. A couple of other sort of ones for me. Dak, can you educate us on the implications here in corn acreage shifting from soy to cotton kind of on a relative basis? The level of crop protection products applied on an acre of corn versus an acre of soy? Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:24:56Yeah. The USDA has projected an increase in corn acres up over soybean acres, that shift. It normally runs around 90 million acres each. Over the history, it has shifted to this year to corn acres. It was shifted last year too, but it has shifted more since 1995, 1985 kind of arrangement. Our portfolio does lend itself to corn acres with our corn soil insecticides. Yeah. We are seeing greater usage in that area on the corn and the corn acres. Our sales of corn soil insecticides are slightly up this year. Ben KlieveAnalyst at Lake Street Capital Markets00:25:42Okay. Very good. David, one last one for you, and I'll go back in queue. Good to hear your conviction regarding free cash flow this year. Can you educate us on your expectations for cash taxes this year given the operating losses that you're coming off of in 2024? David JohnsonCFO at American Vanguard Corporation00:26:03Yeah. We've got some cash taxes to be paid internationally. I think we're in the $4 million-$5 million range. Yeah, the tax situation's kind of difficult at the moment. Ben KlieveAnalyst at Lake Street Capital Markets00:26:22Okay. That's directionally helpful. Very good. All right. I appreciate you guys taking my questions. Best of luck here rounding out Q2. I'll get back in queue. David JohnsonCFO at American Vanguard Corporation00:26:32Thanks, Ben. Operator00:26:35Thank you once again. Just as a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, it is star one if you have any questions or comments. Our next question is coming from Wayne Pinsent with Gabelli Funds. Your line is live. Wayne PinsentAnalyst at Gabelli Funds00:26:51Hi, Dak. Thanks, guys, for taking my question. Dak, you mentioned with inventories at historically low levels, any potential snapback would drop back down to the bottom line. Also, confidence in the 15% margin target. Just wanted to see if you had any thoughts on the cadence of that over the next few years and in 2026. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:27:20Thanks, Wayne. I appreciate the question. Yes. I mean, there's nothing changed in my outlook of the company and the goal of 15% EBITDA margin over the long term with the fact that the decrease in sales is directly related to the destocking that we saw, and specifically in the U.S. market. It tells me that the sales on ground or the product on ground is still going out at the same level. If you look at the change in our destocking versus the change in our sales variance in the first quarter, they're pretty much aligned. It tells me that the product's still going on ground. We just got to get to a normalized level of inventories in the channel. My overall perception hasn't changed there on the long-term potential for the company for EBITDA of 15% margin. Wayne PinsentAnalyst at Gabelli Funds00:28:25Okay. So any thoughts on improvements specifically in 2026 if you start to see a return to maybe normalize going from flat now on the rest of the product portfolio to low single-digit normal top-line growth? Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:28:45We are projecting growth in 2026 in our five-year plan. That is, it's better than the industry average, of course, is what we're projecting as we right-size and go through the transformation process on our commercial activities, specifically in the U.S. And we have seen some real positive signs on the transformation process in the commercial activities in Brazil, specifically. That transformation process was executed the first of this year. Sales are slightly down, but the contribution margin is up from Brazil. So we see execution there in the commercial activities, and we will continue to work towards that in 2026 in the U.S. market. The U.S. market has been kind of complicated with the transformation process in 2025 due to the destocking and the pressures that we've seen by all the competitors in the marketplace. Wayne PinsentAnalyst at Gabelli Funds00:29:46All right. Thanks, Dak. I look forward to following up soon. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:29:49Yep. Thank you, Wayne. Operator00:29:53Thank you. Our next question is coming from Rosemarie Morbelli with Gabelli Funds. Your line is live. Rosemarie MorbelliAnalyst at Gabelli Funds00:30:03Thank you. Good morning, everyone. I just would like to add a couple of questions to Wayne's comments. You mentioned that you have lowered pricing due to the competitive environment. Could you give us a little more details as to which categories are you seeing more generics, and is that the main issue, or is it any particular categories, fungicide, herbicide, insecticide, etc.? If you could help us understand what is happening and whether you see that actually reversing in the second half, for example, when demand increases with the seasonality. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:30:53Great question, Rosemarie. Thank you for that. Yes. It was a very specific, very unusual situation in Q1 with our competitors. There was some very unusual activity that took place that is not normal for an end-of-quarter type situation. I think that is because all of the market was down. It was really around, I would say, it is twofold. It was really around competing for our customers' space and net trade working capital, their inventory headroom. Not necessarily competition on a specific product basis, but it was more related to how much they were willing to take on in inventory at the end of the quarter. They just were not willing to take on much. There was a lot of competition and a lot of discounting that took place at the end of the quarter around that. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:31:51Now, I will say that we did have competitive pricing in Folex as that continued to see generic pressure. I believe looking forward, we're going to be in a very good position in Folex going forward because of our U.S.-based production. Our competitor in the marketplace is not from the U.S., and their supply was left over from last year. I think that's going to work its way out, and we see improvement there long term. Rosemarie MorbelliAnalyst at Gabelli Funds00:32:27Thank you. Operator00:32:33Thank you. As we have no further questions in the queue at this time, I would like to hand it back over to Mr. Kaye for any closing remarks. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:32:45Yes. Thank you again today for your time and for your continued interest in American Vanguard. The first quarter of 2025 was a challenge for us and the entire agricultural chemical industry. As I indicated, we believe that the customer activity levels are beginning to pick up and will continue to do so as channel inventory levels have been worked down to very low levels. We are also happy to have caught up in our financial filings and appreciate the patience our investors have shown during this time. In closing, our focus remains clear to improve our cost structure, streamline the balance sheet, and be laser-focused on providing the products our customers desire. We greatly appreciate your ongoing support and engagement during this period. As always, we remain committed to transparency and open communication. Please do not hesitate to reach out with any further questions. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:33:40Thank you for joining us today, and have a great day. Operator00:33:47Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This does conclude today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. We thank you for your participation.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesDavid JohnsonCFOAnthony YoungHead of Investor RelationsDak KayeCEOAnalystsBen KlieveAnalyst at Lake Street Capital MarketsWayne PinsentAnalyst at Gabelli FundsRosemarie MorbelliAnalyst at Gabelli FundsPowered by Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) American Vanguard Earnings HeadlinesAmerican Vanguard Corporation Announces Appointment of David Johnson as Chief Accounting Officer, Effective October 1, 2026October 2 at 9:48 PM | marketscreener.comMAmerican Vanguard Corporation Announces CFO TransitionOctober 1, 2026 | finanznachrichten.deMy top 3 AI picks for the next decadeAlexander Green bought Apple in 1996, recommended Nvidia at a split-adjusted 66 cents in 2004, and picked up Amazon and Netflix under $3 per share in 2005. 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Email Address About American VanguardAmerican Vanguard (NYSE:AVD) is a specialty chemicals company that develops, manufactures and markets products for agriculture, professional pest management, turf and ornamental care, and animal health. The company operates primarily through its AMVAC business and offers crop protection solutions including insecticides, herbicides, fungicides, nematicides, soil fumigants and biological products. Its products are used to protect crops and manage pests in agricultural, commercial and residential settings. American Vanguard also provides products and technologies for golf courses, sports fields, nurseries and other managed landscapes, as well as treatments designed to support animal health and nutrition. Founded in 1969, American Vanguard serves customers in the United States and international markets through subsidiaries, distributors and other commercial partners. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Greetings, and welcome to the American Vanguard First Quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode, and a question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Mr. Anthony Young. Sir, you may begin. Anthony YoungHead of Investor Relations at American Vanguard Corporation00:00:33Thank you, Ali. Good afternoon and welcome to American Vanguard's First Quarter 2025 earnings review. Our prepared remarks will be led by Dak Kaye, Chief Executive Officer, and David Johnson, Chief Financial Officer. We have prepared presentation slides, which are posted on the Investor Relations section of the American Vanguard website. Let's begin this call with our forward-looking cautionary reminder. During this call, we may discuss forward-looking information. All forward-looking statements are estimates by the company's management and are subject to various risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ. Such factors include weather conditions, changes in regulatory policy, and other risks as detailed in the company's SEC reports and files. All forward-looking statements represent the company's judgment as of the date of this release, and such information will not necessarily be updated by the company. Anthony YoungHead of Investor Relations at American Vanguard Corporation00:01:32It's now my pleasure to turn the call over to CEO, Dak Kaye. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:01:37Thank you, Anthony, and welcome everyone to our First Quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Let me start with a view from 10,000 ft. The year 2024 was one of great change at American Vanguard and was then capped off by a prolonged financial close and audit that delayed our Form 10-K and consequently the 10-Q, which David will cover shortly. However, our final audited numbers were substantially similar to the unaudited results we published in March. In spite of tough market conditions, I'm happy to report that we were able to drive improvement in the areas that are within our control. For example, during Q1, our operating expenses dropped by $5 million, and net trade working capital was reduced by $86 million, both in comparison to last year. We are beginning to see the benefits of our transformation efforts. Further, channel inventories in the U.S. are at historic lows. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:02:41While customers were able to hold down their working capital during the first quarter, we can see they are starting to replenish their stocks now. Indeed, based upon orders to date, we are seeing a stronger second quarter and expect the remainder of 2025 will be solid. We are well positioned to respond to rising market trends while continuing to improve our operating leverage. Now, turning to our first quarter of 2025 financial results, the company generated net sales of $116 million as compared to $135 million in the year-ago period and reported $3 million of adjusted EBITDA as compared to $15.5 million in the year-ago period. There were some specific items in the first quarter of 2024 that positively impacted that period, which we will address later. The first quarter of 2025 was somewhat weaker than we had initially anticipated. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:03:42This was based upon the opinion formed at the end of 2024 that pretty much all of the stocking had finished. Industry data indicates that our product is being applied in the field, but our customers did not replenish their stocks as quickly as our product was being consumed. Thus, the trend of destocking continued in the first three months of 2025. We also made decisions to adjust our program strategy to keep up with programs that our competitors were deploying at the end of the first quarter. Top-line revenue and gross profit were impacted by these developments. In addition to this dynamic, we did not have access to a previously canceled product. We saw a weakness in the Mexican agave market and drought conditions in Australia. I would also like to highlight two bright spots in our portfolio. Metam sales were up 14% in the quarter versus last year. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:04:41This is our largest single product and continues to be well-respected in the market. Diamond sales were also up 17%, and this could be attributed to the increase in peanut acreage that was planted this year. I must admit we have faced several challenges in my first five months, but I continue to be impressed with the team at American Vanguard. The opportunity to transform this business largely stands in front of us. We have taken some initial steps to improve the business, but the ongoing weakness of the current cycle has prevented this progress from being fully realized when considering our recent financial results. We expect this hard work should begin to materialize in the upcoming quarters. Two areas of improvement that I would like to highlight are our focus on cost containment and our improvement in our net working capital accounts. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:05:38First, in the area of cost containment, I have advised the team to continuously evaluate where we can take costs out of the business. Overall, OPEX is down $5 million in the first quarter as compared to a year-ago period. We expect to continue to wring further costs out of the business as part of our transformation plan, but this was a strong start to this effort. The team has also done an admirable job of managing net working capital, showing an improvement of $86 million as compared to this time last year. Our SIOP process allowed us to limit our inventory build, while our management of accounts receivable and accounts payable allowed us to limit the amount of debt that was necessary to operate the business. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:06:26I was surprised by how much working capital was consumed by the company before I arrived, and we plan to operate this business in a leaner fashion going forward, which will allow the business to generate higher returns over the long term. Before I turn the call over to David, I did want to address our 2025 revenue and EBITDA guidance. We have analyzed our supply chain, and we believe the impact from any tariffs will be nominal to our cost of goods sold. In fact, given our U.S.-based footprint, any long-term tariffs may create opportunities for American Vanguard. Given our weak first quarter and a market that is only beginning to recover, we are decreasing our full-year adjusted EBITDA target range to $40-$44 million from $45-$52 million, and we are adjusting our revenue estimate to $535-$545 million. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:07:24While we are beginning to see early stages of a recovery, we do not want to forecast an overly optimistic outlook at this juncture. I'll return after David provides his remarks to give some additional industry commentary covering the short-term trends and expectations. I now turn the call over to David, our CFO. David JohnsonCFO at American Vanguard Corporation00:07:46Thank you, Dak. Good afternoon, everybody. Before discussing our financial performance for the quarter, I would like to address the late 10-K and 10-Q filings. We are pleased to have filed both documents with the SEC, but as many participants on this call are aware, these documents were filed after their SEC deadline. The company accomplished a great deal during the financial close, including performing a detailed review and impairment assessment of the company's major assets. At the same time, the company identified several internal control matters at the company's relatively small Australian subsidiary due to insufficient staffing. The company also had to work through a number of matters related to customer programs. In an unrelated situation, the company has talked a lot about their efforts to implement one standard ERP platform across all of our entities. David JohnsonCFO at American Vanguard Corporation00:08:37These efforts resulted in a number of implementation matters the company had to address. All these matters, when taken together, resulted in the corporate finance team being unable to meet the SEC deadline for filing the 10-K, which ultimately resulted in our assessment of related material weaknesses in the company's internal controls. The company is working on a remediation plan to resolve those material weaknesses. These matters related to the filing of the 2024 financial statements also led to a corresponding delay in the filing of the first quarter financials for 2025. Having said all that, as you may recall, we had published unaudited year-end financial information in March. Now that we have filed our financials, we have been able to report only minor changes from our prior announcement. David JohnsonCFO at American Vanguard Corporation00:09:26First, adjusted EBITDA for 2024 decreased to $40 million as compared to the $42 million unaudited figure, while net sales were $547 million as compared to the unaudited $550 million previously indicated. The main reason for the adjustment was related to customer prepayment programs, where the company identified an adjustment after the initial release. Further, final debt ended $9 million lower than initially indicated due to final adjustments related to debt and accounts payable. Turning to financial performance, our first quarter 2025 revenue was $116 million, a decrease of 14% as compared to the first quarter of 2024. The primary reasons for the decrease were, first, as Dak just mentioned, destocking continued in the quarter. Secondly, the absence of a voluntarily canceled herbicide from our product portfolio. Third, weakness in the Mexican agave market. Finally, a drought in parts of Australia impacting sales of certain products. David JohnsonCFO at American Vanguard Corporation00:10:41Further, market-related factors also dampened our first quarter performance. For instance, in response to aggressive competition in the challenging first quarter market, we implemented increased incentive programs. Gross profit margin declined to 26% during the quarter as compared to 31% last year. This decline in gross profit margin was primarily related to a weaker pricing environment and to a lesser degree lower volume. Our operating costs were well controlled and were down approximately $5 million, excluding transformation expenses and a one-time benefit recorded in the first quarter of 2024 related to the settlement of a long-time data compensation match. We made substantial improvements in our working capital accounts. As I have mentioned in previous conference calls, our business cycle typically leads to an inventory build during the first two quarters of the year as we prepare to meet the needs of our customers in the second half. David JohnsonCFO at American Vanguard Corporation00:11:43However, this year, our inventory only increased by approximately 3% since the year-end of 2024 and has decreased 20% as compared to this time last year, resulting in improved inventory terms. We are pleased with this progress and believe further improvements are possible. We are highly focused on managing net trade working capital and were successful in the first quarter, ending with working capital $86 million lower than this time last year. Along with better control of working capital, we ended the quarter with debt approximately $20 million or 14% lower than this time last year. It is likely that debt will trend higher during the second quarter, which is normal for the company's annual cycle. Our focus on controlling our working capital levels going forward should help to minimize the debt we need to run the business. David JohnsonCFO at American Vanguard Corporation00:12:36Ultimately, we expect this focus will help to create higher returns for shareholders. With regard to debt, because our current credit agreement matures in the third quarter of 2026, we have already begun to work with our lenders to put in place a longer-term capital structure. We are looking at a wide range of options to replace the current credit agreement. Because the current interest rate environment is quite challenging, we expect that new interest rates will likely be higher than our current credit agreement. Our focus is to obtain flexible financing that will give the company ample working capital both to operate and grow, which is one of the highest priority initiatives at the company at this time. Looking forward to the balance of 2025, we expect that CapEx will fall in the $8-$9 million range. David JohnsonCFO at American Vanguard Corporation00:13:31Thus, we expect to generate reasonably strong free cash flow this year. As we said in our last quarterly call, we expect virtually all free cash flow to be allocated towards debt paydown as we look to further strengthen our balance sheet. In summary, the financial performance of the first quarter was weaker than a year-ago period, but we believe that we managed well in the areas that were under our direct control: operating expenses, inventory, accounts payable, and debt levels. While the broader agricultural market is in the very early innings of a recovery, if we continue to execute against our transformation plan, we will be well positioned for a cyclical upturn. With that, I'll turn the call back to Dak. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:14:22Thank you, David. Before we close, I thought I would provide some thoughts on what we are seeing in the agricultural economy. I do not want to sound too optimistic as the level of economic uncertainty remains extremely high, but based upon what I have seen during my more than 15 years as an executive in the crop protection industry, inventory levels have been drawn down to a point where any recovery in buying patterns is going to lead directly to an increase in demand, which will lead to higher volumes or pricing, and possibly both higher volumes and pricing. That is the nature of operating in a cyclical industry like ours. We have included a chart in the slide deck, which shows that inventory levels at our distributors are down by nearly 23% as compared to a year-ago period. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:15:15We should note the industry has already been involved in 18-24 months of destocking. While inventories have been drawn down, industry data indicates that corn plantings are at a historically high level. In fact, corn acreage is forecast to be at its highest level since the 2013-2014 season, which was a reasonably strong period for crop protection companies. As I stated previously, based upon industry data, we can see that our product is being applied in the field and we are not losing market share. Thus, we believe our portfolio is well positioned should the season go as forecasted by the USDA. Cotton acreage is looking incrementally softer than last year, but growers are switching to peanuts, which is also an area of strength for us, with Thimet being one of our most popular products, which is used in peanuts. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:16:11We can see a recovery beginning, but we will need to achieve clarity on tariffs and gain further confidence in agricultural commodity pricing before a cyclical upswing can commence. Important agreements have been reached by some global trading partners, but based upon our conversation with customers, a high level of uncertainty remains in the market on how the global trade landscape will adjust to the additional barriers that may be forthcoming. While we wait for this recovery, we will execute on our business transformation, which should lead to improved financial results. We'll look to take further costs out of the business, continue to improve our net working capital position, and importantly, make smart investments that improve the positioning of our product portfolio. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:17:01As I stated in the last conference call, one of the reasons that I took this job was that I believe American Vanguard is a business that can be fixed. I've just highlighted a few fixes that I've implemented in my first few months here, but there is much more that can be accomplished. We continue to execute against the playbook we developed with our consultants, but the team also continues to find additional areas where we can take costs out of the business. As we chip away at the cost structure, our long-term goal of achieving a 15% adjusted EBITDA margin through the cycle appears more achievable, but it will take a few years to get there. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:17:41While we have gone through some challenges, I remain extremely excited about the future and our goals remain the same: to position this company to be the trusted provider of proven agricultural and environmental solutions. With that, I'll open the call for questions. Operator. Operator00:18:01Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting our question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue, and you may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the Star keys. One moment, please, while we pull for questions. Thank you. Our first question is coming from Ben Klieve with Lake Street Capital. Your line is live. Ben KlieveAnalyst at Lake Street Capital Markets00:18:42All right. Thanks for taking my questions. First one, Dak, for you. I'm curious if you can elaborate a bit on kind of the cadence of the year-over-year top-line performance here on a year-to-date basis. Basically, on the fourth quarter call in mid-March, you kind of suggested that the destocking period was kind of neutralized, which is, which today it sounds like is the case now, but maybe wasn't necessarily the case at the very beginning of the year. Can you talk about the kind of year-over-year performance from January through to where we are in early June? Have things been progressing favorably throughout the year? And how bad was it in January relative to how good it may be in June now? Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:19:33Yeah. Thanks, Ben. Excuse me. Thanks, Ben, for the question. Appreciate it. From a year-over-year basis, I mean, you have to consider the Dacthal, the product that we removed from the market. That was a fairly sizable year-over-year amount that came out in the first quarter of this year. That is the biggest change in top-line sales from the previous quarter. We had the agave Bromosil product in Mexico. That is the next biggest change that we had down in Mexico. The next one was the drought in Australia. Those are the three biggest changes in the top line. We did have some positives with the Metam sodium and the Thimet that offset some of the others, but those were the primary changes year-over-year in the top-line sales. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:20:28Addressing your destocking, the levels that we saw at the beginning of the year in the channel suggested that the inventories had been destocked, but it just continued through all the way to April from our last standpoint to a level that in the channel is what we see in the inventory at a level that is historical lows is what we see. We get this information from Data Services, and that's the reason we have confidence in it. It appears to be a historical low, and it just continued through the first quarter. As we see now, we do see positive trends in May and June related to our sales. That demand seems to be being replenished. I don't know if we can't tell at the moment if they're going to build inventory. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:21:22That's the uncertainty part of it, but the destocking appears to have bottomed out, but that's to be determined. Ben KlieveAnalyst at Lake Street Capital Markets00:21:32Okay. Helpful. I guess, David, let me ask you a question, and then, Dak, I have got a follow-up to this. I definitely understand and I think everybody expected the year-over-year headwinds from Dacthal. Can you isolate the first quarter EBITDA and revenue contributions from Dacthal? Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:21:52Yeah. I've got that right. It's top line $6 million and margin 30.5%. Ben KlieveAnalyst at Lake Street Capital Markets00:22:0130.5%. That margin is on a gross margin basis or operating margin? Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:22:06Gross margin. Ben KlieveAnalyst at Lake Street Capital Markets00:22:07Okay. Very good. If you back out, Dak, this dynamic with Dacthal and Bromosil, kind of the balance of your portfolio, it seems to be effectively flat year-over-year. Australia, Bromosil, Dacthal, those were the headwinds. Kind of the balance of your portfolio was effectively flat. Is that a fair characterization? Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:22:39I'd say that it's effectively flat with the highlights being on the other side, Metam sodium and Thimet. Metam sodium is our largest product, and it continues to be a strong core product in our portfolio. It's resilient. It's stable. We did see an uptick in sales in the first quarter of Metam sodium. The Thimet, that demand was directly associated with the increase in peanut acres that we've seen offsetting the cotton acres primarily in the Southeast. Ben KlieveAnalyst at Lake Street Capital Markets00:23:14Okay. Very good. A few other questions for me. First of all, I know seasonality in this era is really difficult to forecast, but I'm wondering if you can help us understand kind of what your top-line seasonality expectations throughout 2025. I mean, first quarter is relative to the midpoint of your guidance. The first quarter numbers look to be about 20% of your overall revenue for the full-year basis. Can you help us kind of look to the Q2, Q3, Q4 outlooks as a percentage of revenue? Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:23:55Yeah. I don't have the percentages right at my hand on a quarter-by-quarter basis, but overwhelmingly, the second half of the year is our strong season with the soil fumigants, Metam sodium being one of those driving the top-line sales in that period. The second half of the year is always the strongest for us. Based upon what we see in the destocking, I don't have no idea, nothing comes to mind that would prevent that being continuing in 2025. Ben KlieveAnalyst at Lake Street Capital Markets00:24:32Okay. So still a sharp second-half skew. Okay. Very good. A couple of other sort of ones for me. Dak, can you educate us on the implications here in corn acreage shifting from soy to cotton kind of on a relative basis? The level of crop protection products applied on an acre of corn versus an acre of soy? Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:24:56Yeah. The USDA has projected an increase in corn acres up over soybean acres, that shift. It normally runs around 90 million acres each. Over the history, it has shifted to this year to corn acres. It was shifted last year too, but it has shifted more since 1995, 1985 kind of arrangement. Our portfolio does lend itself to corn acres with our corn soil insecticides. Yeah. We are seeing greater usage in that area on the corn and the corn acres. Our sales of corn soil insecticides are slightly up this year. Ben KlieveAnalyst at Lake Street Capital Markets00:25:42Okay. Very good. David, one last one for you, and I'll go back in queue. Good to hear your conviction regarding free cash flow this year. Can you educate us on your expectations for cash taxes this year given the operating losses that you're coming off of in 2024? David JohnsonCFO at American Vanguard Corporation00:26:03Yeah. We've got some cash taxes to be paid internationally. I think we're in the $4 million-$5 million range. Yeah, the tax situation's kind of difficult at the moment. Ben KlieveAnalyst at Lake Street Capital Markets00:26:22Okay. That's directionally helpful. Very good. All right. I appreciate you guys taking my questions. Best of luck here rounding out Q2. I'll get back in queue. David JohnsonCFO at American Vanguard Corporation00:26:32Thanks, Ben. Operator00:26:35Thank you once again. Just as a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, it is star one if you have any questions or comments. Our next question is coming from Wayne Pinsent with Gabelli Funds. Your line is live. Wayne PinsentAnalyst at Gabelli Funds00:26:51Hi, Dak. Thanks, guys, for taking my question. Dak, you mentioned with inventories at historically low levels, any potential snapback would drop back down to the bottom line. Also, confidence in the 15% margin target. Just wanted to see if you had any thoughts on the cadence of that over the next few years and in 2026. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:27:20Thanks, Wayne. I appreciate the question. Yes. I mean, there's nothing changed in my outlook of the company and the goal of 15% EBITDA margin over the long term with the fact that the decrease in sales is directly related to the destocking that we saw, and specifically in the U.S. market. It tells me that the sales on ground or the product on ground is still going out at the same level. If you look at the change in our destocking versus the change in our sales variance in the first quarter, they're pretty much aligned. It tells me that the product's still going on ground. We just got to get to a normalized level of inventories in the channel. My overall perception hasn't changed there on the long-term potential for the company for EBITDA of 15% margin. Wayne PinsentAnalyst at Gabelli Funds00:28:25Okay. So any thoughts on improvements specifically in 2026 if you start to see a return to maybe normalize going from flat now on the rest of the product portfolio to low single-digit normal top-line growth? Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:28:45We are projecting growth in 2026 in our five-year plan. That is, it's better than the industry average, of course, is what we're projecting as we right-size and go through the transformation process on our commercial activities, specifically in the U.S. And we have seen some real positive signs on the transformation process in the commercial activities in Brazil, specifically. That transformation process was executed the first of this year. Sales are slightly down, but the contribution margin is up from Brazil. So we see execution there in the commercial activities, and we will continue to work towards that in 2026 in the U.S. market. The U.S. market has been kind of complicated with the transformation process in 2025 due to the destocking and the pressures that we've seen by all the competitors in the marketplace. Wayne PinsentAnalyst at Gabelli Funds00:29:46All right. Thanks, Dak. I look forward to following up soon. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:29:49Yep. Thank you, Wayne. Operator00:29:53Thank you. Our next question is coming from Rosemarie Morbelli with Gabelli Funds. Your line is live. Rosemarie MorbelliAnalyst at Gabelli Funds00:30:03Thank you. Good morning, everyone. I just would like to add a couple of questions to Wayne's comments. You mentioned that you have lowered pricing due to the competitive environment. Could you give us a little more details as to which categories are you seeing more generics, and is that the main issue, or is it any particular categories, fungicide, herbicide, insecticide, etc.? If you could help us understand what is happening and whether you see that actually reversing in the second half, for example, when demand increases with the seasonality. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:30:53Great question, Rosemarie. Thank you for that. Yes. It was a very specific, very unusual situation in Q1 with our competitors. There was some very unusual activity that took place that is not normal for an end-of-quarter type situation. I think that is because all of the market was down. It was really around, I would say, it is twofold. It was really around competing for our customers' space and net trade working capital, their inventory headroom. Not necessarily competition on a specific product basis, but it was more related to how much they were willing to take on in inventory at the end of the quarter. They just were not willing to take on much. There was a lot of competition and a lot of discounting that took place at the end of the quarter around that. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:31:51Now, I will say that we did have competitive pricing in Folex as that continued to see generic pressure. I believe looking forward, we're going to be in a very good position in Folex going forward because of our U.S.-based production. Our competitor in the marketplace is not from the U.S., and their supply was left over from last year. I think that's going to work its way out, and we see improvement there long term. Rosemarie MorbelliAnalyst at Gabelli Funds00:32:27Thank you. Operator00:32:33Thank you. As we have no further questions in the queue at this time, I would like to hand it back over to Mr. Kaye for any closing remarks. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:32:45Yes. Thank you again today for your time and for your continued interest in American Vanguard. The first quarter of 2025 was a challenge for us and the entire agricultural chemical industry. As I indicated, we believe that the customer activity levels are beginning to pick up and will continue to do so as channel inventory levels have been worked down to very low levels. We are also happy to have caught up in our financial filings and appreciate the patience our investors have shown during this time. In closing, our focus remains clear to improve our cost structure, streamline the balance sheet, and be laser-focused on providing the products our customers desire. We greatly appreciate your ongoing support and engagement during this period. As always, we remain committed to transparency and open communication. Please do not hesitate to reach out with any further questions. Dak KayeCEO at American Vanguard Corporation00:33:40Thank you for joining us today, and have a great day. Operator00:33:47Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This does conclude today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. We thank you for your participation.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesDavid JohnsonCFOAnthony YoungHead of Investor RelationsDak KayeCEOAnalystsBen KlieveAnalyst at Lake Street Capital MarketsWayne PinsentAnalyst at Gabelli FundsRosemarie MorbelliAnalyst at Gabelli FundsPowered by