Hope Bancorp Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Hope Bancorp completed the acquisition of Territorial Bancorp, entering the strategically important Hawaiian market and expanding its franchise.
  • Neutral Sentiment: Excluding notable items, second quarter net income was $24.5 million, up 7% quarter-over-quarter, though the bank reported a $27.9 million net loss due to one-time legacy securities sales and a state tax apportionment change.
  • Positive Sentiment: Total deposits grew 10% to $15.9 billion, driving a 22 basis point decline in the average cost of deposits and reducing reliance on higher-cost brokered funding.
  • Positive Sentiment: Loans receivable rose 8% to $14.4 billion with organic production up 57%, improving portfolio diversification and maintaining stable asset quality.
  • Positive Sentiment: The bank repositioned $418 million of lower-yielding securities into higher-yielding 5.42% paper, expected to add about $12 million of annualized interest income.
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Earnings Conference Call
Hope Bancorp Q2 2025
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Operator

Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Angie Yang, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Angie Yang
Angie Yang
SVP & Director - IR at Hope Bancorp

Thank you, Drew. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for The Hope Bancorp twenty twenty five Second Quarter Investor Conference Call. As usual, we will be using a slide presentation to accompany our discussion this morning, which is available in the Presentations page of our Investor Relations website. Beginning on Slide two, let me start with a brief statement regarding forward looking remarks. The call today contains forward looking projections regarding the future financial performance of the company and future events.

Angie Yang
Angie Yang
SVP & Director - IR at Hope Bancorp

Forward looking statements are not guarantees of future performance. Actual outcomes and results may differ materially. Hope Bancorp assumes no obligation to revise any forward looking projections that may be made on today's call. In addition, some of the information referenced on this call today are non GAAP financial measures. For a more detailed description of the risk factors and a reconciliation of GAAP to non GAAP financial measures, please refer to the company's filings with the SEC as well as the Safe Harbor statements in our press release issued this morning.

Angie Yang
Angie Yang
SVP & Director - IR at Hope Bancorp

Now we have allotted one hour for this call. Presenting from the management side today will be Kevin Kim, Hope Bancorp's Chairman, President and CEO and Juliana Beliska, our Chief Financial Officer. Peter Koh, our Chief Operating Officer, is also here with us as usual and will be available for the Q and A session. With that, let me turn the call over to Kevin Kim. Kevin?

Kevin Kim
Kevin Kim
Chairman, President & CEO at Hope Bancorp

Thank you, Angie. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Let's begin on Slide three with a brief overview of the quarter. The 2025 was a milestone quarter for Hope Bancorp as we completed the acquisition of Territorial Bancorp entering the strategically important market of Hawaii. We are excited about the opportunities that this presents.

Kevin Kim
Kevin Kim
Chairman, President & CEO at Hope Bancorp

We also repositioned a portion of our legacy securities portfolio to enhance our interest income. Accordingly, we believe net income excluding notable items is more indicative of our fundamental performance this quarter. Net income for the twenty twenty five second quarter, excluding notable items, totaled $24,500,000 up 7% from $22,900,000 excluding notable items in the preceding first quarter. Earnings per diluted share, excluding notable items, $0.19 for both quarters as we issued 9,000,000 shares with the territorial transaction. As a result of the one time loss incurred from selling lower yielding legacy securities and from merger related items, together with a one time impact from a change in California's state tax apportionment law, we reported a net loss of $27,900,000 for the second quarter.

Kevin Kim
Kevin Kim
Chairman, President & CEO at Hope Bancorp

Pretax pre provision net revenue excluding notable items grew to $41,200,000 in the second quarter of twenty twenty five, up 17% from $35,200,000 in the twenty twenty five first quarter. This reflected the impact of the territorial acquisition, legacy loan growth, improvement in the cost of deposits and core fee income growth. Moving on to slide four, all our capital ratios remain well above the requirements for well capitalized financial institutions after the close of the territorial acquisition. Our strong capital levels and ample liquidity provide us a healthy cushion with which to navigate various macroeconomic scenarios and support prudent balance sheet growth. Our Board of Directors declared a quarterly common stock dividend of $0.14 per share payable on August 15 to stockholders of record as of 08/01/2025.

Kevin Kim
Kevin Kim
Chairman, President & CEO at Hope Bancorp

Continuing to Slide five, strengthening our deposit franchise remains a key priority. At 06/30/2025, our total deposits with the completion of the Territorial acquisition grew to $15,900,000,000 an increase of 10% from the end of the prior quarter. The addition of territorial's low cost deposits drove a substantial improvement in our cost of deposits. In addition, the ongoing maturity and renewal of CDs to lower rates will contribute to the improvement in the cost of funds. Our average cost of interest bearing deposits declined 37 basis points quarter over quarter and our average cost of total deposits decreased by 22 basis points quarter over quarter.

Kevin Kim
Kevin Kim
Chairman, President & CEO at Hope Bancorp

Similar to past quarters, we continue to reduce our broker deposits exposure, which decreased by $183,000,000 or 19% quarter over quarter. Overall, the broker deposits ratio declined to 5% of total deposits at 06/30/2025, down from 7% as of 03/31/2025 and nine percent as of 06/30/2024. Moving on to Slide six. At 06/30/2025, loans receivable of $14,400,000,000 were up 8% from the end of the prior quarter, reflecting the addition of Territorial's loan portfolio as well as strengthening organic loan production. Organic loan production increased 57% from the first quarter level with a well diversified mix of originations across all our areas of lending.

Kevin Kim
Kevin Kim
Chairman, President & CEO at Hope Bancorp

Stronger production has translated into modest net growth in our legacy portfolio. Similar to past quarters, we saw robust net growth from Bank of Hope's residential mortgage team. In addition, commercial real estate loans were up slightly quarter over quarter. Late in the quarter, we experienced some short term pay downs in certain commercial lines of credit and those balances have largely rebuilt immediately after the quarter end. Overall, with the addition of Territorial, our loan portfolio diversification has improved notably.

Kevin Kim
Kevin Kim
Chairman, President & CEO at Hope Bancorp

Residential mortgage and other loans represented 16% of our total loans as of 06/30/2025, up from 9% at 03/31/2025. On Slides seven and eight, we provide more details on our commercial real estate loans, which are well diversified by property type and granular in size. The loan to values remain low with a weighted average of approximately 46 at 06/30/2025 and the profile of our commercial real estate portfolio has not changed meaningfully. Asset quality remains stable. With that, I will ask Juliana to provide additional details on our financial performance for the second quarter. Juliana?

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

Thank you, Kevin, and good morning, everyone. Before I begin my remarks, let me just make a quick clarification to an earlier comment. We issued 7,000,000 shares with the Territorial Bancorp transaction. And now beginning on slide nine. Our net interest income totaled $118,000,000 for the second quarter of twenty twenty five, an increase of 17% from the prior quarter.

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

This reflects the positive impact of the territorial acquisition and organic loan growth as well as an expansion in our net interest margin. On the bottom left quadrant of this slide, you can see the twenty twenty five second quarter pretax acquisition accounting adjustments associated with the territorial transaction. We will continue to recognize such adjustments on a quarterly basis through the amortization periods, as noted in the table. Accretion income from territorial loans was $4,000,000 in the second quarter. Accretion income is expected to become a recurring stable component of our interest income due to the long dated nature of territorial loans.

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

The amortization period of this portfolio is currently estimated to be twelve years. I will point out that the prepayment rate on this portfolio is slower than what was initially estimated at merger close in part due to change forward interest rate curve expectations. For 2025, we are now expecting to recognize approximately $12,000,000 of loan accretion income at approximately $4,000,000 per quarter compared with $14,000,000 anticipated initially for 2025. In June, we sold a portion of our legacy investment securities available for sale with a fair value of $418,000,000 and an aggregate weighted average book yield of 2.33%. The net proceeds from the sale were redeployed to purchase higher yielding securities with an aggregate average market yield of 5.42% at the time of purchase.

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

All else equal, the impact of this repositioning is expected to contribute approximately $12,000,000 per year to interest income. Overall, our net interest margin increased by 15 basis points quarter over quarter to 2.69 for the second quarter of twenty twenty five. On Slide 10, we show you the quarterly trends in our average loan and deposit balances and our weighted average yields and costs. On to Slide 11. Let's look at our noninterest income.

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

Included in noninterest income is a $39,000,000 net loss on the investment securities repositioning that I just discussed, which we consider a notable item. Excluding notable items, the trajectory in our noninterest income has been a highlight over the last year. Second quarter twenty twenty five non interest income of $15,900,000 excluding the notable loss, was up 44% year over year. Service fees on deposit accounts have continued to grow quarter over quarter. Swap fee income increased year over year by $1,000,000 and year over year excuse me, customer swap fee income increased quarter over quarter by $1,000,000 and year over year by $1,600,000 reflecting improved customer demand.

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

I will also note that first quarter twenty twenty five other income included a favorable valuation mark of $1,700,000 related to the sale of non SBA loans and this did not recur in the second quarter. In the second quarter, we sold $67,000,000 of SBA loans and recognized net gains on sale of $4,000,000 This compares with sales of $50,000,000 in the first quarter and $3,100,000 of net gains on sale. Some sales that were initially planned for the first quarter moved into the second quarter, so we look at this result on a first half basis in aggregate. Moving on to non interest expense on slide 12. Our noninterest expense totaled $109,500,000 in the second quarter, including notable items, which largely comprised onetime merger related costs.

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

Excluding notable items, noninterest expense was $92,000,000 in the twenty twenty five second quarter, which compared with $81,000,000 in the first quarter, also excluding notable items. The quarter over quarter increase generally reflected the addition of the territorial operations to our organization. Our efficiency ratio, excluding notable items, improved quarter over quarter to 69.1% compared with 69.8% for the first quarter of twenty twenty five. I will also mention a notable tax item this quarter. On 06/27/2025, California state tax apportionment law changed.

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

Consequently, the one time remeasurement of our deferred tax asset cost us $4,900,000 this quarter, which we include in notable items. On an ongoing basis, this tax law change will lower our company's effective tax rate by approximately 1%. Now moving on to Slide 13. I will review our asset quality. Our allowance coverage of loans was 1.04% as of 06/30/2025, compared with 1.11% as of March 31.

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

The change in the coverage ratio primarily reflected the addition of the loans acquired from Territorial, which have a lower reserve requirement due to the lower credit risk profile of residential mortgage loans. Criticized loans declined by $34,000,000 or 8% quarter over quarter to $415,000,000 at 06/30/2025. Within that, mention loans decreased by $47,000,000 or 26%. As a percentage of total loans, our criticized loan ratio was 2.87% at June 30, down from 3.36 at 03/31/2025. Non performing assets as of June 30 totaled $113,000,000 representing 61 basis points of total assets, up from 49 basis points of assets as of March 31.

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

This fluctuation is largely driven by one commercial real estate loan, which is well secured by collateral property in a prime location. Net charge offs totaled $12,000,000 or 33 basis points of average loans for the second quarter on an annualized basis compared with $8,000,000 or annualized 25 basis points of average loans in the first quarter. The twenty twenty five second quarter provision for credit losses was $15,000,000 and included merger related provision for credit losses of $4,500,000 comprising $3,900,000 of day one provision for territorial loans at acquisition close and $600,000 net write off related to the exit of Hope's credit card portfolio. These items we consider as notable. With the acquisition, Hope is adopting Territorial's white label credit card program.

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

Excluding notable items, the second quarter provision for credit losses of $10,500,000 compared with $5,000,000 in the first quarter, reflecting second quarter net charge offs as well as the quarter over quarter increase in the allowance for unfunded loan commitments. With that, let me turn the call back to Kevin.

Kevin Kim
Kevin Kim
Chairman, President & CEO at Hope Bancorp

Thank you, Juliana. Moving on to the outlook on Slide 14. We continue to expect 2025 loan growth at a high single digit percentage rate. Drivers in the second half of the year include continued improved frontline productivity, building on trends from the second quarter, as well as the impact of frontline hiring that we are continuing to make. In our outlook, we customarily use the forward interest rate curve, which currently assumes Fed funds target rate cuts in October and December.

Kevin Kim
Kevin Kim
Chairman, President & CEO at Hope Bancorp

A quarter ago, cuts were expected in June, September, and December. All else equal, higher for longer interest rates negatively impact our net interest income. Accordingly, in our outlook, we continue to expect net interest income growth in the high single digit percentage range for 2025. The negative impact of fewer Fed funds rate cuts on our net interest income and the updated slightly lower amount of loan accretion income expected to be recognized in 2025 will be offset by the incremental increase in interest income from the legacy investment portfolio repositioning that we executed in June. We are increasing our year over year fee income growth expectations to be in the high twenties percentage range for 2025 based on the year to date momentum across various key business lines.

Kevin Kim
Kevin Kim
Chairman, President & CEO at Hope Bancorp

This excludes notable items. Our outlook for non interest expenses, excluding notable items, is unchanged at low double digit percentage growth year over year. Lastly, we anticipate an effective tax rate of approximately 14 in both the third quarter and the fourth quarter. This reflects the California state tax apportionment law change and the impact and timing of the tax credit investments we are making. With that, Drew, please open up the call for questions.

Operator

Yes, sir. We will now begin the question and answer session. The first question comes from Matthew Clark with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Matthew Clark
Matthew Clark
MD & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies

Hey, good morning.

Kevin Kim
Kevin Kim
Chairman, President & CEO at Hope Bancorp

Good morning.

Matthew Clark
Matthew Clark
MD & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies

On fee income guide, I think it looks like you're on pace to do roughly 63,000,000, for the year. Sorry. I'm getting some feedback. 63,000,000 for the year. I guess I know it sounds like SBA was a little heavy with with the delay in in sales in February, but anything else going on in the second half within fee income that we should think about?

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

Yeah. I think for second half fee income hi, Matthew. The SPA basically, it's a question of timing. You take a look at one first quarter and second quarter and average it out, right? But for the second half of the year, things that we can think about that are positive drivers, as we pointed out, customer swap fee income growth has been a real highlight vis a vis year ago levels.

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

As a company, we've made a concentrated effort towards promoting that product and underwriting CRE loans with a customer swap in place as opposed to the traditional fixed rate loans. So that is continuing to drive fee income growth. And also as our loan growth momentum continues and production momentum continues to improve, we are looking at positive trends in other loan related fee income origination fees, unused commitment fees, a range of fees, the general that general bucket.

Matthew Clark
Matthew Clark
MD & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies

Okay. Okay. And then shifting to the margin, I didn't see a spot rate in your deck or in the release. But if you had the spot rate on deposits at the June and what you're assuming within your outlook in terms of a cumulative data on deposits through the cycle?

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

The spot rate at the June was 2.93%. And that's down, by the way, quarter to date by midpoint in July as well. So it's continuing to improve. In terms of the full beta that we're assuming for the cycle, Given the fact that rate cuts have delayed themselves towards October and December, we don't really there's not much more beta to be had this year. So there isn't any change to beta expectations vis a vis last quarter, but I will share that for the coming cut when that happens.

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

We're planning on executing betas at a higher pace than we have in initial cuts, so 100% or better at this deposit product, obviously. And then the impact of CDs changes the total deposit beta calculation, as you know, since that's timing based.

Matthew Clark
Matthew Clark
MD & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies

Yep. Yep. Okay. And then can you just remind us what percent of your loans are are truly floating that, you know, reset with each fed cut, you know, with, you know, territorial now on board?

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

About 42% of our loans is truly floating.

Matthew Clark
Matthew Clark
MD & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies

Okay. Got it. And then do you have, how much in the way of cost saves do you have left for territorial so we can consider that going forward?

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

In the territorial franchise, we are very delighted to welcome the territorial team members into the Bank of Hope family, and we have been focusing on strengthening those operations. As you well know, through other M and A or generally in M and A, the upfront cost saves are executed in the beginning, which generally relate to corporate administrative cost cuts. And as we have said in the past, we plan to focus on maintaining the continuity of the customer experience. So right now, I will say that there is still more integration and cost fee coming in the second half of the year. But as far as the magnitude, we will share that later in the year.

Matthew Clark
Matthew Clark
MD & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies

Okay. I'll step back. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Gary Tenner with D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Gary Tenner
Gary Tenner
MD & Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson

Thanks. Good morning. A couple of my questions were already asked. But with the deal closed CET1 ratio over 12% and the stock below tangible book, any thoughts here on a buyback as the dust settles on the transaction?

Kevin Kim
Kevin Kim
Chairman, President & CEO at Hope Bancorp

Well, Gary, we have been carefully evaluating our capital efficiencies. And the securities repositioning in June was part of our capital deployment strategies, and we are continuing to assess additional opportunities, I think I can say that much.

Gary Tenner
Gary Tenner
MD & Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson

Okay. Thanks. And then just in terms of the conversion timing for territorial, when is that going to occur?

Kevin Kim
Kevin Kim
Chairman, President & CEO at Hope Bancorp

Conversion meaning the system conversion? Or the Yes.

Gary Tenner
Gary Tenner
MD & Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson

System conversion.

Kevin Kim
Kevin Kim
Chairman, President & CEO at Hope Bancorp

Yeah. That that is expected to be completed by the end of next year. We have tentatively decided to run a territorial system for the time being because their system is very close to the expiration of their contract, and we are very close to that.

Gary Tenner
Gary Tenner
MD & Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson

Okay. So does that just push out the cost savings that you had talked about when the deal was announced? Think it was like 27% or so of territorial expenses that just pushed that out deeper into

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

necessarily. The core costs and the IT costs were not the biggest component of territorial's cost base. If you look at territorial's disclosures and their proxy statements, you will see that the largest component of cost savings from that franchise would come from the form of executive compensation.

Gary Tenner
Gary Tenner
MD & Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson

Right. Okay. All right. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Kelly Motta with KBW. Please go ahead.

Kelly Motta
Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)

Hey, good morning. Thanks for the question. I was hoping to circle back to your expectations for loan growth. On an organic basis, it was relatively modest this quarter, but you mentioned you're making some frontline hires to help help drive the outlook ahead. I'm wondering if you could share a bit more as to what you're doing on that front and kind of the cadence of that of their contributions as I know it can take a a bit of time in order for new hires to to add to net growth? Thanks.

Kevin Kim
Kevin Kim
Chairman, President & CEO at Hope Bancorp

Yeah. We have been hiring very experienced, talented commercial and corporate bankers over the past several months and we are continuing to do that. And if you look at our loan production in the second quarter, we have a very meaningful increase from the first quarter. And I think based upon the pipeline that we have at the beginning of the third quarter, our loan production will continue to increase over the rest of the year. In our payoff trends, our payoff in the second quarter was not as high as it was in the first quarter, but still the payoffs and pay down trends remain at elevated levels.

Kevin Kim
Kevin Kim
Chairman, President & CEO at Hope Bancorp

And I think once this the payoffs and pay downs have been stabilized and normalized with the added origination volumes that we can expect from these new bankers, I think the loan growth expectation in the third and fourth quarter is pretty doable for us.

Kelly Motta
Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)

Got it. That's helpful. And then a second one from me on asset quality, you guys called out in your release the migration of a CRE credit. So per disclosure, it's it's a well secured and, in in a prime location. Just as as you think about, the overall credit picture and what you're seeing, I'm wondering, you know, if there's been any shift in in how you're viewing asset quality of the portfolio relative to maybe a quarter ago when things were more uncertain with tariffs and just could just provide us with a bit more color as to how you're feeling about credit and what you're watching more carefully? Thanks.

Peter Koh
Peter Koh
SEVP & COO at Hope Bancorp

Sure. This is Peter. Yeah. We're, you know, actively monitoring our portfolio. I think we're feeling cautiously optimistic.

Peter Koh
Peter Koh
SEVP & COO at Hope Bancorp

I think a lot of the high levels of uncertainty, although they're still around and we're definitely monitoring the situation, but we do remain cautiously optimistic. I think if you look at our just overall level of potential problem loans, which is really represented by our level of criticized assets, you saw some meaningful decline this quarter. So really, I think barring any unexpected volatilities in the macroeconomic environment, we are we do think that asset quality remains manageable and stable.

Kelly Motta
Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)

Got it. I'll step back. Thanks a lot.

Peter Koh
Peter Koh
SEVP & COO at Hope Bancorp

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Tim Coffey with Janney. Please go ahead.

Timothy Coffey
Timothy Coffey
MD & Associate Director of Depository Research at Janney Montgomery Scott

Great. Good morning, everybody. Good morning. Yes. Kevin, I'm sorry, could you provide some commentary on the legacy borrowers in Hope Bancorp, the ones that are on the commercial side, more towards the retail aspect of those businesses.

Timothy Coffey
Timothy Coffey
MD & Associate Director of Depository Research at Janney Montgomery Scott

How they did in the second quarter? Because I think at the beginning of the quarter, there might have been a lot of uncertainty around it, but it seems like, that uncertainty started to evaporate by the end of the quarter.

Peter Koh
Peter Koh
SEVP & COO at Hope Bancorp

Actually, this Peter. I can probably answer that. I think just level of uncertainty was much higher, I think, when we first started the quarter in Q2. I think a little bit of that dust is a little bit settling down. There's obviously still a lot of uncertainty.

Peter Koh
Peter Koh
SEVP & COO at Hope Bancorp

But, you know, actually, I think as we've monitoring the situation, I think the economy and particularly the consumer base has remained fairly resilient. And although there's still some risk there, and we're definitely being proactive around that, we really haven't seen much impact to our customer base as of yet.

Timothy Coffey
Timothy Coffey
MD & Associate Director of Depository Research at Janney Montgomery Scott

Alright. Great. Thanks a lot for that, Peter. That's great. Thanks a And then, Julia, looking at the the deposit portfolio, right, I mean, there seems to be a a pretty good balance now between commercial and consumer balances. Is that something, one, you'd like to, you know, continue, maintain that kind of that balance? And also, do you have a target for how much broker deposits you'll need going forward?

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

Well, we have stated in the past our target loan to deposit ratio is to be up to 95%. We're obviously at below 91% there, so we do have some growth in excess liquidity at the moment. However, but that should give you an idea for how much deposit growth we believe we need on an ongoing basis because we've also said in the past that on a medium term basis, we would like to target loan growth in the high single digits, right? Now in terms of the customer base balance, I think we have a pretty great balance right now between consumer and commercial loans. Our broker deposits are down to 5% of total deposits.

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

So this is a pretty good place from which to focus on generating, growth and expanding the customer wallet share and adding new relationships.

Timothy Coffey
Timothy Coffey
MD & Associate Director of Depository Research at Janney Montgomery Scott

Mhmm. Great. Those are my questions. Thank you very much.

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

Thank you, Tim.

Operator

And we have a follow-up from Kelly Mata with KBW. Please go ahead.

Kelly Motta
Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)

Hey. Thanks for letting me jump back in. Just a quick modeling question. For for Juliana. Can you remind us, how much more one time costs are yet to be realized?

Kelly Motta
Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)

And now with the conversion kicked out a bit, would those occur closer to conversion, or is there a cadence to expect, you know, for the back half of the year? Thanks.

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

One second. In the back half of the year, there'll be probably a couple million, more of, one time costs in the third quarter and then, probably a couple million more in the fourth quarter just from various odds and ends, if you will. So that's what I can share with you right now.

Kelly Motta
Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)

Got it. That's helpful. Thank you.

Operator

And we have a follow-up from Gary Tenner from DA Davidson. Please go ahead.

Gary Tenner
Gary Tenner
MD & Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson

Thanks. I just wanted to ask, I apologize if I if I missed this, but in terms of the new production in the quarter, what was the the average yield on new production?

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

The average yield in on the new production was, approximately 676%.

Gary Tenner
Gary Tenner
MD & Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson

Great. Thank you.

Operator

And we have a follow-up from Matthew Clark from Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Matthew Clark
Matthew Clark
MD & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies

Just another housekeeping item for for next year. The tax rate, I know it's gonna come down by 100 basis points, but does that imply 24% for next year?

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

No. I think that the tax rate for this year, on the full year basis at the 21%. When you look at 2026, I think our kind of tax year kind of going forward beyond this year will be, you know, in that 20 percentage. Okay. Again, not taking into account any tax law changes that may impact 2026 from the passage of recent federal legislation.

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

Okay? So just based on what is in place today, I would say that our tax year kind of going tax rate going forward will be kind of in that 20%, 21% range. And it's down from the prior year because of the state apportionment tax law change, but also because we are continuing to invest in low income housing and other tax credit investments to help lower our tax burden.

Matthew Clark
Matthew Clark
MD & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies

Okay. Great. And then just net charge offs, this quarter up a little bit. Anything chunky in there? Anything maybe unusual to call out?

Matthew Clark
Matthew Clark
MD & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies

Just trying to get a sense for, you know, where that might go going forward. I know it's tough to say. But

Peter Koh
Peter Koh
SEVP & COO at Hope Bancorp

Yeah. And the the have charges were up slightly this quarter. I do think that we remain at manageable levels. I mean, if we still still have some cleanup that we're undergoing right now, so I would just look at sort of just portfolio management as the reason there. But going forward, as you have heard, you know, I think our level of overall problem credits are criticized assets going down. NPL did have a little uptick, but, you know, it's a real estate property that's well secured.

Peter Koh
Peter Koh
SEVP & COO at Hope Bancorp

So on the asset quality front, we are, you know, again, cautiously optimistic. I do think there is a a road map here. The macroeconomic environment continues to support that, you know, we will remain at stable manageable levels going forward.

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

Great. Thanks again.

Operator

And we have a follow-up from Kelly Motta from KBW. Please go ahead.

Kelly Motta
Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)

Thanks. Thanks for letting me hop in a third time now. Last question for me on the NII guidance, you maintained it, but you also have the benefit of the securities restructuring in the back half of the year. It seems like some of the guide changes related to taking out a rate cut, the accretion from territorial, but on a core core basis, it's still seems down. Wondering if you could share if that's really just the function of rates or if there's something else that is is creating that variance, whether it's, you know, maybe some additional pressure on those deposit side or, slower slower loan growth.

Kelly Motta
Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)

Just wondering if you could provide some color as to what what drove that.

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

Yeah. I can add a couple comments to that. I mean, if you think about it, when we provided the guidance in April, right, we were looking at a rate curve with the first cut starting in June. So that would have given us two full quarters of a rate cut and then a cut in September, which would have given us like a full quarter of another cut, right? And all else equal, as you can see in our 10 Q disclosures, 100 basis points impacts our NII by 20,000,000 taking out so model to model, if we took out the impact of the curve change from our kind of first quarter forecast, that would have taken out about a net $4,000,000 of income.

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

So we were able to make that up and offset that with the securities portfolio repositioning, right? And then the change in the forward curve also impacted pace of recognition of accretion, higher for longer, all else equal, does slow down the prepayment speeds. So the upfront accretion in year one for us we're now looking at $12,000,000 versus 14,000,000 So that kind of gets you to the math of maintaining the NII unchanged. And also, we're continuing to improve the pace of originations, but quarter to quarter, the blended loan yield on originations did decrease a little bit. So continued kind of competitive pricing in the market for loan growth is also, you know, coming through.

Julianna Balicka
Julianna Balicka
EVP & CFO at Hope Bancorp

But, basically, the maps on the on it are really, really curve driven and accretion driven. And then you can ask yourself what can we do to, you know, kind of change that conversation without just waiting for another rate cut. We've been very proactive in working on our deposit mix and reducing our higher cost deposits as you saw the continued improvement from broker deposit exposure, etcetera.

Kelly Motta
Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)

That's really, really helpful. Thanks again. I'll step back for good now.

Matthew Clark
Matthew Clark
MD & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies

This concludes

Operator

our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks.

Kevin Kim
Kevin Kim
Chairman, President & CEO at Hope Bancorp

Thank you. Thank you, Dhruv. Once again, thank you all for joining us today, and we look forward to speaking with you in three months. So long, everyone.

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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      Angie Yang
      SVP & Director - IR
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      Kevin Kim
      Chairman, President & CEO
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      Julianna Balicka
      EVP & CFO
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      Peter Koh
      SEVP & COO
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