WesBanco Q2 2025 Earnings Report

WesBanco EPS Results

• Actual EPS: $0.91
• Consensus EPS: $0.87
• Beat/Miss: Beat by +$0.04
• One Year Ago EPS: $0.49

WesBanco Revenue Results

• Actual Revenue: $260.73 million
• Expected Revenue: $261.14 million
• Beat/Miss: Missed by -$412.00 thousand
• YoY Revenue Growth: N/A

WesBanco Announcement Details

• Quarter: Q2 2025
• Date: 7/29/2025
• Time: After Market Closes
• Conference Call Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2025
• Conference Call Time: 9:00AM ET

WesBanco (NASDAQ:WSBC) operates as the bank holding company for WesBanco Bank, Inc. that provides retail banking, corporate banking, personal and corporate trust, brokerage, mortgage banking, and insurance services to individuals and businesses in the United States. The company operates through two segments, Community Banking, and Trust and Investment Services. It offers commercial demand, individual demand, and time deposit accounts; commercial, mortgage and individual installment loans; retail loans, such as residential real estate mortgage loans, home equity lines of credit, and loans for other consumer purposes; installment loans to finance the purchase of automobiles, trucks, motorcycles, boats, and other recreational vehicles, as well as home equity installment loans, unsecured home improvement loans, and revolving lines of credit; and various non-traditional offerings, such as insurance and securities brokerage services. The company also provides trust services; and various alternative investment products, including mutual funds and annuities. In addition, it acts as an agency that specializes in property, casualty, life, and title insurance, as well as benefit plan sales and administration to personal and commercial clients; provides broker dealer and discount brokerage services; holds investment securities and loans; and holds and leases commercial real estate properties, as well as acts as an investment adviser to a family of mutual funds. WesBanco, Inc. was founded in 1870 and is headquartered in Wheeling, West Virginia.

WesBanco Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

• Positive Sentiment: EPS of $0.91 excluding merger charges in Q2, up 86% year-over-year, driven by a 3.59% net interest margin and 40% fee income growth.
• Positive Sentiment: Successful integration of Premier Financial included migrating about 450,000 relationships and 70 financial centers in May with strong customer reception and retention.
• Positive Sentiment: Organic deposits grew 6% year-over-year (excluding CDs +5%), fully funding 6% organic loan growth and outperforming peer bank deposit trends.
• Negative Sentiment: Q3 net interest margin faces a 5–7 basis-point headwind as acquired CDs reprice into lower-rate specials, reducing accretion benefit.
• Neutral Sentiment: Management expects mid-single-digit loan growth, a low-to-mid $140 million quarterly expense run rate, and core margin expansion of ~3–5 basis points per quarter.

Presentation

[Operator]

Good day and welcome to the WesBanco Second Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host today, John Iannone. Sir, please go ahead.

[John Iannone, SVP - IR at WesBanco]

Thank you. Good morning and welcome to WesBanco Inc. Second quarter twenty twenty five earnings conference call. Leading the call today are Jeff Jackson, President and Chief Executive Officer and Dan Weiss, Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Today's call, an archive of which will be available on our website for one year, contains forward looking information.

[John Iannone, SVP - IR at WesBanco]

Cautionary statements about this information and reconciliations of non GAAP measures are included in our earnings related materials issued yesterday afternoon as well as our other SEC filings and investor materials. These materials are available on the Investor Relations section of our website, westbanco.com. All statements speak only as of 07/30/2025, and WesBanco undertakes no obligation to update them. I would now like to turn the call over to Jeff. Jeff?

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

Thanks, John, and good morning. On today's call, we will provide an overview on the integration of Premier Financial and our strong second quarter results, as well as provide an update on our outlook for 2025. Key takeaways from the call today are earnings per share of $0.91 when excluding merger related charges, which was highlighted by net interest margin of 3.59% and year over year fee income growth of 40%. Solid organic loan growth and a foundation for loan and deposit growth during the second half of the year. Successful customer data systems conversion of Premier Financial.

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

I'm excited that our second quarter results demonstrate the success of our acquisition of Premier and strong operational performance. Our larger organization delivered solid sequential quarter loan growth while driving positive operating leverage. We also meaningfully improved both our net interest margin and efficiency ratio further demonstrating our focus on operational excellence for our shareholders. For the quarter ending 06/30/2025, we reported net income excluding merger and restructuring expenses of $87,300,000 and diluted earnings per share of $0.91 an increase of 86% year over year. On a similar basis, our second quarter returns on average assets and tangible equity improved to 1.317% respectively.

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

Our net interest margin improved meaningfully to 3.59% due to the benefits of the Premier acquisition and our continued focus on loan growth and strengthening our balance sheet. Our efficiency ratio improved 10 percentage points year over year to 55.5% when combined with our achievement of our planned acquisition cost saves. Further, we realized strong growth in fee revenue of 40% year over year driven by the acquisition and organic growth. These are just a few proof points of our strategic positioning for sustainable long term growth. This quarter's key story was the successful conversion of the customer data systems of Premier Bank and the trust department.

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

During May, we transitioned approximately 400,000 consumer and 50,000 business relationships along with the branding and operations of approximately 70 financial centers from Premier to WesBanco. This seamless integration was the direct result of the strong collaboration of all our employees working to ensure exceptional service for our customers. We are excited by the customer reception and retention to date and are focused on building even stronger relationships with our newest customers, businesses and communities. Reflecting the Premier acquisition, market appreciation and organic growth, our trust and securities brokerage business has grown into a $10,000,000,000 investment business based on assets under management and securities account values. Combined with our larger customer base and new treasury management products and services, fee income totaled $44,000,000 during the second quarter, an increase of 40% year over year.

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

Our focus is to grow fee income as a percentage of total revenue over the near term as we offer our products and services to our newest markets. The strength of our strategies and teams are reflected in our performance with total commercial loan growth and organic deposit growth continuing to significantly outperform the monthly H-eight data for all domestically chartered commercial banks. For the second quarter, total deposits organically increased more than $800,000,000 year over year or 6% fully funding organic loan growth. Importantly, this growth was driven by deposit categories other than certificate of deposits as organic deposit growth excluding CDs was more than 5% year over year. While we did experience a decline in deposits quarter over quarter due to normal seasonality and the intentional runoff of higher cost CDs and less reliance on premier public funds, we continue to expect to fund full year loan growth with deposits.

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

Second quarter organic loan growth was six percent year over year and 3% quarter over quarter annualized driven by the strength of all of our markets. Further, total commercial loans organically increased 7% year over year and 4% annualized sequentially. Our commercial loan pipeline as of June 30 was approximately $1,300,000,000 with roughly 30% attributable to our new markets and loan production offices. In the three weeks since quarter end, the commercial pipeline has grown approximately 5%. Based on the current pipeline, we still expect mid single digit loan growth during 2025. The

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

Recently, a cross market team from our legacy Columbus and new Toledo markets masterfully supported a shared C and I client throughout the customer data system conversion through a strong partnership to deliver an exceptional customer experience. The team created a plan that ensured a seamless transition for this critical client and worked tirelessly across business lines and geographies to not only retain, but also grow the relationship, securing an additional $10,000,000 deal in Columbus and an additional $25,000,000 deal in Toledo. This is a great example of the strong collaboration across our teams to support our customers and communities. We remain committed to making strategic investments in support of long term growth. We have recently hired a strong seasoned team of commercial bankers experienced in the healthcare industry to expand our presence in this attractive sector and bring tailored solutions to meet the unique needs of the healthcare clients.

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

The team has already had some early success and while still in the early stages, we are excited about the potential opportunities they will bring. In addition, we have continued to expand our loan production office strategy into markets with strong demographics and growth potential, Knoxville and Northern Virginia. In Knoxville, we hired a couple of experienced bankers with a long history in the market and plan to make additional hires this year to build out that team. In fact, they've already added potential deals to our most recent commercial pipeline. Our goal over the next several years is to develop this LPO into a strong sustainable operation like we did in Chattanooga with the support of additional top tier talent.

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

We also have expanded our presence in Northern Virginia with a commercial LPO that complements our existing residential mortgage LPO and existing presence in the Mid Atlantic region. We again hired an industry veteran with deep ties to the region to lead this team and grow our opportunities in this economically vibrant market. I would now like to turn the call over to Dan Weiss, our CFO for details on our second quarter financial results and our current outlook for 2025. Dan?

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

Thanks, Jeff, good morning. For the quarter ending 06/30/2025, we reported GAAP net income available to common shareholders of $54,900,000 or $0.57 per share. And when excluding restructuring and merger related expenses from the Premier acquisition, second quarter net income was $87,300,000 or $0.91 per share, representing an increase of nearly 200% from $29,400,000 or $0.49 per share in the prior year period. On a similar basis and excluding the after tax day one provision for credit losses on acquired loans, we reported $1.6 per diluted share for the six month period as compared to $1.05 per diluted share last year. To highlight a few of the second quarter's accomplishments, we generated strong year over year pretax pre provision core earnings growth of 134%.

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

We grew both loans and deposits organically, improved the net interest margin, grew fee income 40% year over year and reduced the efficiency ratio. In addition to successfully converting the customer data systems of Premier, we also exited $115,000,000 of Premier commercial loans and sold the mortgage servicing business of Premier. Our balance sheet as of June 30 reflects the benefits of both the Premier acquired balance sheet and organic growth. Total assets increased 52% year over year to 27,600,000,000.0 which included total portfolio loans of $18,800,000,000 total securities of $4,400,000,000 and the addition of approximately $480,000,000 in goodwill generated from the acquisition. Total portfolio loans increased 53.6% reflecting $5,900,000,000 from Premier and $670,000,000 from organic growth.

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

During May, we sold $115,000,000 of higher risk acquired commercial loans, which had a fair value of $74,000,000 that we had identified for sale as part of our acquisition due diligence. These loans had been reflected in loans held for sale and were primarily higher risk CRE credits. We have also seen an increase in CRE payoffs as properties are beginning to move to the secondary market for permanent financing or are sold. On a year to date basis, we've realized payoffs totaling $255,000,000 and currently anticipate at least a similar amount during the second half of the year. That said, we remain optimistic about future loan growth with our strong pipelines, banking teams and markets combined with more than $1,000,000,000 in unfunded LCD commitments expected to fund over the next eighteen months.

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

Deposits of $21,200,000,000 increased 58% versus the prior year due to premier deposits of $6,900,000,000 and organic growth of $849,000,000 which fully funded organic loan growth. Total deposits declined $138,000,000 on a sequential quarter basis due to normal seasonality similar to last year and the intentional runoff of some higher cost certificates of deposit and less reliance on public funds from Premier of approximately $50,000,000 Encouragingly, we have begun to see the rebound in deposits so far in July and still plan to fund loan growth with deposit growth for the full year. Credit quality continues to remain stable as key credit metrics have remained low from a historical perspective and within a consistent range through the last five years. The allowance for credit losses of the total portfolio loans at 06/30/2025 was 1.19% of total loans or $223,900,000 The decrease of $9,800,000 from 03/31/2025 was driven by a reduction in PCD loan reserves from several larger payoffs and portfolio mix changes, which more than offset increases associated with a slightly higher unemployment assumption, loan growth and other loan portfolio adjustments. The second quarter margin of 3.59% improved 24 basis points compared to the first quarter and 64 basis points on a year over year basis through a combination of higher loan and securities yields, lower funding costs and purchase accounting accretion, which benefited the margin by approximately 37 basis points.

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

Second quarter deposit funding costs of two forty six basis points decreased nine basis points from the first quarter and 28 basis points from the prior year period. And when including non interest bearing deposits, deposit funding costs for the second quarter were 184 basis points. For the second quarter, interest income increased 40% year over year to $44,000,000 primarily due to the Premier acquisition. With combined Premier fee income, we set record highs this quarter in several fee income categories including trust fees, service charges on deposits, electronic banking fees and securities brokerage revenue. Valuations of equity securities linked to the company's deferred compensation plan also increased $1,500,000 over the linked quarter, which drove net securities gains.

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

And just as a reminder, these equity securities are held in a deferred compensation plan with the offsetting cost included in employee benefits expense. Non interest expense excluding restructuring and merger related costs for the three months ended 06/30/2025 was $145,500,000 an increase of 47.5% year over year due to the addition of Premier's expense base, higher core deposit intangible asset amortization that was created from the acquisition and higher FDIC insurance expense due to our larger asset size. During the second quarter, employee benefits included expenses of $2,500,000 of additional non recurring expenses with the aforementioned $1,500,000 related to the deferred compensation plan and approximately $1,000,000 in healthcare costs related to the timing of onboarding Premier employees and related healthcare services. When excluding these two items, total operating expenses were $143,000,000 consistent with our prior outlook. Our regulatory capital ratios have remained above the applicable well capitalized standards.

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

In conjunction with the February 28 closing of the Premier acquisition, we issued 28,700,000.0 shares of common stock to acquire the outstanding shares of Premier, which increased total capital by $1,000,000,000 and anticipated modestly impacted capital ratios. Reflecting the full quarter average of Premier's balance sheet, Tier one leverage was 8.7% and tangible common equity to tangible assets ratio was 7.6%. Turning to our current outlook for the remainder of 2025, which includes the benefits from our acquisition of Premier, we are currently modeling two twenty five basis point Fed rate cuts in September and October. However, given our relatively neutral rate sensitive position, we do not expect a meaningful impact on our net interest margin from these cuts in the near term. We anticipate approximately 60% of the $2,900,000,000 CD portfolio will mature or reprice during the next six months downward from a weighted average rate of 3.9% and this should continue to benefit the margin.

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

The acquired Premier CD book, which was marked down to a weighted average of 2% has mostly run off due to the shorter duration of that book and we anticipate the renewal rates of those CDs to mostly reprice into our current seven month CD special in the range of 3.5% creating a temporary headwind to margin growth here in the third quarter. As a result, we anticipate the Premier related margin accretion in the third quarter to be down about seven to 10 basis points from the 37 basis points we reported in the second quarter. While loans, maturities, refinancings benefit overall loan yields and legacy CDs reprice downward, we continue to model legacy margin improvement of three to five basis points per quarter. And therefore, when combining the effects of the lower purchase accounting accretion, partially offset by the legacy margin improvement, we model a temporary five to seven basis point decline in the third quarter margin with a strong bounce back in the fourth quarter with our margin returning to that second quarter levels in the high 350s. Trust fees as well as securities brokerage revenue for the remainder of the year should be modestly higher reflecting modest organic growth and the benefit of our new markets and newly acquired assets under management.

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

Electronic banking fees and service charges on deposits, are subject to overall consumer spending behaviors should be in a similar range to the second quarter. Mortgage banking income should also be in a similar range to the second quarter reflecting the opportunities in our new markets, but will continue to be impacted by overall residential housing market. And finally, commercial swap fee income excluding market adjustments should be in a similar range to the first half of the year. As we stated in the past, we remain focused on delivering disciplined expense management while making appropriate investments to support long term growth like our recent LPOs in Knoxville and Northern Virginia. Subsequent to the successful customer data systems conversion of Premier, we achieved the bulk of the planned 26 cost savings by June 30.

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

And as mentioned last quarter, our mid year merit increases offset the remaining cost saves from the completion of the systems conversion. Therefore, we continue to expect the expense run rate for the third quarter to be consistent with the second quarter in that low to mid $140,000,000 range. The provision for credit losses will depend upon changes to the macroeconomic forecast and qualitative factors as well as various other credit quality metrics including potential charge offs criticized and classified loan balances, delinquencies, changes in prepayment speeds and future loan growth. And regarding the FASB rule change related to the CECL double count, if the rule is finalized by October, we will evaluate the potential benefits and risks to adopt that change as it relates to the acquisition of Premier and make a decision at the time on an appropriate course of action. A rough estimate of the potential benefit to capital if we adopted is it would increase capital by approximately $45,000,000 after tax while lowering loan marks by approximately $60,000,000 pretax.

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

And lastly, we currently anticipate our full year effective tax rate to be between 1919.5% subject to changes in tax regulations and taxable income levels. We are excited about the opportunities that lie ahead and pleased with the success of our strategies playing out according to plan. Operator, we're now ready to take questions. Would you please review the instructions?

[Operator]

Yes. Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you have additional questions, you may reenter the question queue. And session.

[Operator]

The first question comes from Daniel Tamayo from Raymond James.

[Daniel Tamayo, Vice President at Raymond James Financial]

Thank you. Good morning, everybody. Maybe just starting on the credit side, a little bit of an increase in the criticized. Wonder if you could give us a little color there. And then just broader thoughts on the LPOs as it relates to credit.

[Daniel Tamayo, Vice President at Raymond James Financial]

You can kind of give us an idea of how you are able to kind of maintain the credit culture as you do continue to build out the footprint? Thanks.

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

Sure. Good morning, Daniel. So I'll start with the CNCs being up slightly. A lot of that is due to some regrading of a couple premier clients that we acquired. Once again, we feel like we're still below our peer averages.

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

And we look in the third quarter, we do think we'll see some upgrades into payoffs. So I do expect that percentage to get better as we enter this back half of the year. As it relates to the LPOs, we still do all the same underwriting, the same credit policies. We have credit officers that have been long tenured with our company that approve the credits. So there's no differential in how we look at any credit in any market.

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

And once again, we really use legacy WesBanco people to take a look at those credits. We also have the market leaders talk about the types of deals we like, the types of deals we don't. And so we take that very seriously. And I can tell you that our credit has been really good in our LPO markets. And with this expansion, I only expect that to continue.

[Daniel Tamayo, Vice President at Raymond James Financial]

That's helpful, Jeff. Thanks. And then I guess kind of related with these LPOs from a capital perspective, just maybe remind us how you think about kind of the overall capital deployment priorities or from a strategic perspective, you've got the LPOs, you've got M and A, you've got organic growth within the legacy footprint. Within that stack, I guess, how do you think about priorities there or managing the capital overall?

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

Yes. So we start with our dividend. Obviously, a lot of shareholders and we really value the dividend, put that as a strong focus. But then second is really organic growth. So I'm really excited about our organic growth and that's really where we're focused on today.

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

I think if you look at the Premier footprint with all the opportunities that it's going to provide us along with the LPOs we talked about and I'm really excited about to be opening Knoxville, Northern Virginia. If you look at Tennessee, we were just getting started a couple of years ago. We've got almost $350,000,000 in loans there. Still see tremendous growth with our Nashville and Chattanooga markets. And then finally, healthcare, we hired on some professionals with really great background in healthcare that we also see some really great growth on the back half of this year.

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

So I would say dividends and then organic growth a solid one and two and then probably M and A buybacks falling much further down there. But really want to make sure everybody understands our focus is to really execute on the Premier transaction, grow in those markets and then continue with the LPOs and the healthcare strategy. We feel like we've got once again tremendous opportunities for growth that I think you'll see in the back half of this year.

[Daniel Tamayo, Vice President at Raymond James Financial]

Terrific. Okay. Well, I will step back. Thanks for all the color, Jeff.

[Operator]

Thanks. Thank you. And the next question comes from Russell Gunther with Stephens.

[Russell Gunther, Managing Director at Stephens Inc]

Hey, good morning, guys. Good morning, Russell. Hey, Jeff. First question on the loan growth front, appreciate the puts and takes for the back half of the year. Maybe just bigger picture, is a mid single digit type of growth rate how we should think about WesBanco going forward kind of on the pro form a balance sheet for Premier?

[Russell Gunther, Managing Director at Stephens Inc]

Or as some of the newer LPOs kick in, perhaps CRE headwinds ease, is that high single digit you guys have talked to prior still ultimately achievable?

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

Yes. We're targeting mid we're still targeting mid to upper single digits. As mentioned before, a lot of CRE payoffs have increased. But the nice thing about our balance sheet is when we run kind of the forecast, our capital builds back very quickly. So that does give us continued expansion potentials for CRE growth, which is a very nice thing.

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

But I would definitely say, we're still looking at that mid to upper single digits. Once again, depends on CRE payoffs. But as I said previously, we have a lot of great things to organically grow this company, especially in the second half of the year. So feeling very good about a lot of those items. So once again, feeling good about the growth.

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

I think it's going be mid to upper or maybe somewhere in the middle there. But the back half of the year, our pipelines are looking really strong, around $1,400,000,000 Those are all the time highs of course. And once again, Premier is just getting used to our systems, way we do things, building those pipelines, and I feel very good about the second half of the year.

[Russell Gunther, Managing Director at Stephens Inc]

Great. Thank you, Jeff. And then second question on expenses. I appreciate the puts and takes this quarter and how 3Q should shake out. But maybe, a bit more intermediate term, you guys have north of two fifty branches today.

[Russell Gunther, Managing Director at Stephens Inc]

Is that the right number going forward? If it's not, what is and what could that mean for potential branch rationalization and cost saves not currently contemplated in the guide?

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

Yes. So I would say, like we do every year, we do look at branch rationalization efficiencies and we're going to do that as well in the second half of the year. We do have two fifty branches. I'm sure there's we will look at every branch to make sure that it's very profitable for us strategically aligned. But as we have done every year, reiterate, we have tended to close some branches.

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

So once again, just getting started with that work. I don't have a number to give you on that, but that is going to be happening the second half of the year as well. And I would expect there would be some cost saves that come out of that.

[Russell Gunther, Managing Director at Stephens Inc]

Okay, great. Thank you guys for taking my questions.

[Operator]

Thank you. And the next question comes from Karl Schuber with RBC Capital Markets.

[Karl Shepard, AVP at RBC Capital Markets]

Hey, good morning guys.

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

Hey, good morning Karl. Good morning Karl.

[Karl Shepard, AVP at RBC Capital Markets]

Dan, let's get you involved. You gave some good color on the margin for next quarter. I wanted to just test your accretion assumptions, I guess. So it's 37 this quarter, it drops back to kind of high 20s around 30. Is that the right number for 2026 is kind of a sustainable level 30 bps of accretion?

[Karl Shepard, AVP at RBC Capital Markets]

I know it'll kind of trickle down over time, but that a good starting point.

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

Yes, I would say so. Really if we think about third quarter, as you can get into the high 20s pretty easily with my commentary, we see maybe a two or three basis point drop into the fourth quarter. So you're kind of mid-20s. And then from there, it's what we model is about a basis point of reduction per quarter thereafter for the next six quarters or so. So hopefully that kind of gives you some color on what we anticipate anyway, bit of the

[Karl Shepard, AVP at RBC Capital Markets]

accretion That's on perfect. And then Jeff, you sound very optimistic about Premier. I guess my question is the systems conversion is done. Are there other things you need to do to integrate the companies in the coming months? Is it really just going out and getting that growth and driving fees?

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

I think it's really just going out and getting that growth and driving those fees and making sure our new Premier associates are familiar with our processes about turning around deals quickly and what types of transactions we want to do, the types of products we're selling, getting them comfortable with that. But I can say this is the smoothest conversion I've ever been a part of, literally no hiccups, great customer conversion. I think the new Premier employees are really enjoying our culture and our growth strategies and the way we kind of create a great culture here at WesBanco. So no, I think second half of the year is really let's grow, let's continue to take market share and continue to add great talented bankers that help move our company forward.

[Karl Shepard, AVP at RBC Capital Markets]

Great. Thank you both.

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

Thank you.

[Operator]

Thank you. And the next question comes from Catherine Mealor with KBW.

[Catherine Mealor, Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)]

Thanks. Good morning. One quick follow-up on the accretion just to clarify. Is the CD amortization totally out by third quarter or is there still a little bit of that coming in?

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

There is a little bit after third quarter, but I believe it's less than $1,000,000

[Catherine Mealor, Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)]

Okay. Then in the third quarter, how much is next quarter?

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

Million dollars

[Catherine Mealor, Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)]

Okay, got it. Okay, perfect.

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

And then first quarter of next year, we're assuming it drops down into maybe 600,700 thousand

[Catherine Mealor, Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)]

Okay, perfect. That's helpful. Yes, it just goes down from there. Okay, that's great. Thank you for that clarification.

[Catherine Mealor, Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)]

And then maybe one more thing on the expenses. It feels like you've got you said you got most of your cost savings out. And then I know there's some kind of growth that's offsetting that. But how much of it I mean, I'm assuming a lot of that was kind of back end loaded in the quarter. And so is there a way to think about kind of how much is actually further coming out in the third quarter if that's offset by growth? Just kind curious with those puts and takes.

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

Yes. You're exactly right. Most of the savings came out really at the very June. So those savings obviously will take effect here in the third quarter. But kind of as we've said in the past with the midyear merit increases and other investments that we're making, for example, as Jeff mentioned with the LPOs and some other things, we do expect kind of the savings to be offset with midyear merit increases and other investments.

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

And so that's where we still get into that low to mid-one 140 range for an expense run rate kind of going forward for the next two quarters. From an expense savings standpoint, the only things that we really have open, we do have there's still some data processing that's happening. It's relatively minor that will occur through I believe November. And then we've also got our securities brokerage group that will convert here in a couple of months. So we've still got that happening.

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

And then I would say just from the MSR standpoint, while the sale occurred midway through the second quarter, we retained the servicing for the buyer for a couple of months. And so we've got that team still in place. And so expect to see some savings here in the midway through the third quarter there as well.

[Catherine Mealor, Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)]

Okay, great. And maybe just one thing, just circling back to the margin, you've talked about the core margin increasing, at least, you said three to five basis points kind of per quarter. As we think about going into next year, if we are entering a period where we have a couple of cuts, do you still feel like there's upward momentum in your core margin just given the back book repricing opportunity that you've still got on the core basis? I'm just kind thinking about update us on your thoughts on how your margin reacts as we start to get to cuts? Thanks.

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

Yes. No, absolutely. That three to five basis points is kind of what I would call probably a three to five quarter average over the next three to five quarters per quarter. So we're really excited about what we're seeing. But as I also said in my prepared commentary, we do have two cuts in the back half of this year.

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

And that guidance that I just provided now is inclusive of that. So certainly would anticipate the back bulk repricing. We've got $350,000,000 in fixed rate commercial loans, weighted average 4.4%. That's going to reprice up $2.50 to 300 basis points likely into the 7s here just over the next year. We have also the securities portfolio $250,000,000 per quarter in securities cash flow.

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

That's coming off at about 3.3%. It's coming it's going back on at 5.5%. So that's going to be a nice tailwind here to margin as well. And these are the things that are really helping to drive organic three to five basis points. And then of course, as I mentioned, the broader CD book repricing from a 3.9% down into that 3.5.

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

Some of that depending on the level of CD, it repriced to either 3.5 or 3.75. So yes, certainly looking forward to the coming quarters.

[Catherine Mealor, Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)]

Great. Thank you so much. Appreciate it.

[Operator]

Thank you. And the next question comes from David Bishop with the Huffington Group.

[David Bishop, Director - Research at Hovde Group]

Hey, good morning gentlemen.

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

Good morning. Good morning.

[David Bishop, Director - Research at Hovde Group]

Hey, Jeff, circling back to Russell's first question in terms of loan growth. To get you back to maybe on that high single digit run rate, in your sense, is it just the maybe the visibility or the headwind from payoffs that would keep you below that? Or are you seeing anything on macro front related to tariffs or borrower hesitancy that could keep you a little bit more conservative in terms of achieving that? Just curious what you're baking in there or seeing in the market?

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

Yes, sure. We're not seeing a lot on the tariff front. I mean, obviously, few customers, I think, are more hesitant. But I think it would be more of the CRE payoffs that would keep us from the high single digits. That's what we've kind of seen so far in this first half of the year.

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

And I think that would be the main driver there. Once again, I feel like we've got several different levers to continue to pull to grow and continue to expand. As Dan said, our margin and along with our fee businesses. But I do believe loan growth could be somewhat lower than high single digits based on the CRE payoffs potentials. We're seeing more than we've seen in the last couple of years.

[David Bishop, Director - Research at Hovde Group]

Okay. Got it. And then Jeff, maybe sticking with the fee income topic there. I know a lot of your peers doing some of these bigger transactions have implemented maybe some fee waivers on the deposit service charges and such. I think they came in a little bit lighter than I've been expecting.

[David Bishop, Director - Research at Hovde Group]

Could easily be modeling error admittedly, but just curious if this is a good run rate or have you been doing any waivers and would they be expiring, if so? Thanks.

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

No, I'm not aware of any waivers, Dan.

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

No, I think the only thing I would mention is with the Premier accounts, we did suppress the fees in the first month or So there could be a little bit of benefit as we trade into this third and fourth quarter third quarter. Yes.

[David Bishop, Director - Research at Hovde Group]

Got it. Thanks.

[Operator]

Thank you. And the next question comes from Emmanuel Navis with D. A. Davidson.

[Manuel Navas, MD & Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson]

Hey, good morning. Can you talk a bit more about deposit pipelines? You want to fully fund the loan growth, some seasonality shifts in the back half of the year. Just other areas where you're going to get that matching deposit growth, please?

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

Yes. Good morning. So if you look at what we did last year, very similar trends. We grew deposits really strong in the first quarter last year. This year we did the same thing.

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

Second quarter we had some seasonality. And then as we mentioned, we intentionally ran off some of our higher cost deposits that Premier had in the second quarter. Looking at the pipeline for third and fourth quarter, it's really robust. We're also launching a new deposit campaign as well, which was the same thing that we did in third quarter last year. So we believe between those two things that we should be able to keep up with the loan growth on the back half of the year.

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

Once again, we've really got the deposit machine going. I think you can look at last year as a good results there and feel like we can continue that moving forward. I think some of it we should see from the commercial space. That's been a really nice growth engine for us with commercial clients and launching those new treasury products. One of the things, if you look at our treasury products, we launched that purchase card a little over a year ago.

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

We had about five customers on it. Today, we've got about 82 customers with another 40 in the pipeline. So do expect to see continuing increases in the TMT revenue as well.

[Manuel Navas, MD & Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson]

I appreciate that color. In terms of post Northern Virginia, you have Knoxville, you have the healthcare team, that's a lot of new stuff. What regions or products are kind of next if you have something to contemplate next in terms of adding to your growth targets and regions and products?

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

Sure. I think obviously building out Northern Virginia and Knoxville is really key. We've looked at Richmond a couple of times and kind of connecting right for an LPO, always looking for great talented bankers. And then really it's just selling all the treasury products that we've just rolled out last year, making sure we're getting a full relationship when we go out and talk to commercial clients. And I think also we've got a lot of room to run there, where you look if you look at the premier footprint, if you look at continuing growth in Indiana, I was just over in Fort Wayne last week, there's a lot of growth there as well.

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

So I think Indiana, when you look at Fort Wayne, Indianapolis, there's still room to add teams there. And then I'll wrap up with Nashville. We've got some bankers there, but we want to add more bankers in Nashville. So I believe we've got a lot of great opportunities to grow. And when I look organically and look at forecasts, I feel like we're really going to have a great growth trajectory over the next couple of years.

[Manuel Navas, MD & Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson]

And you highlighted that PSC is already contributing a bit to the pipeline. Can you just kind of highlight where PSC's growth contribution is so far and kind of where what's still left to do and so forth on the PSC front?

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

Sure. Yes. Their pipelines are building, I believe out of the $1,400,000,000 I think they're about $400,000,000 of that. I know we've got several large transactions that were approved and we're probably closing in the third quarter. I also think that they are getting back into the rhythm serving their clients and getting out and selling and so finding and understanding our processes.

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

So I believe that they're understanding how we do business, how we go to market, what we're looking for. I think all that we kind of went through in the second quarter. So I believe third quarter you're going to see even more contribution from the PSC new employees.

[Manuel Navas, MD & Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson]

Okay. Thanks for the commentary. I'll step back in the queue.

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

Thanks.

[Operator]

Thank you. And the next question is a follow-up from Daniel Tamayo with Raymond James.

[Daniel Tamayo, Vice President at Raymond James Financial]

Hey, thanks guys. Just a quick one here. The preferred update maybe updated thoughts on calling the preferred and or refinancing the sub debt that have that's going be repricing higher in the back half of the year?

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

Yes. Great question, Danny. I think certainly we're probably not interested in the reset rate, which is has a 10 plus percent handle on it, $150,000,000 of preferred outstanding. As alluded to there, it does become callable on November 15. And so we are certainly evaluating that and plan to take action there.

[Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO at WesBanco]

We also have $50,000,000 of sub debt that we acquired from Premier that also resets very soon that we'll be exploring alternatives for as well. So I think probably more to come over the next quarter. I think we'll probably see how that resolves itself.

[Daniel Tamayo, Vice President at Raymond James Financial]

Great. Helpful. Thank you.

[Operator]

Thank you. Next question is also a follow-up. This one from David Bishop with The Huffington Group.

[David Bishop, Director - Research at Hovde Group]

Yes. Actually, Dan just took my question. So I'm good to go.

[Operator]

All right. This does conclude the question and answer session. And I would like to turn the floor back over to Jeff Jackson for any closing comments.

[Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director at WesBanco]

Thank you. I'm excited that we are delivering meaningful improvement in our financial metrics and strategic positioning to deliver enhanced shareholder value, highlighted by earnings per share of $0.91 and a net interest margin of $3.59 Our transformational acquisition of Premier combined with our new LPOs and our other commercial lending strategies have boosted our organic growth engine and efforts to drive positive operating leverage. Thank you for joining us today and we look forward to speaking with you at one of our upcoming investor events. Have a great day. This concludes the call.

[Operator]

As mentioned, the conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.

Participants

Executives

• John Iannone, SVP - IR
• Jeffrey Jackson, President, CEO & Director
• Daniel Weiss, Senior EVP & CFO

Analysts

• Daniel Tamayo, Vice President at Raymond James Financial
• Russell Gunther, Managing Director at Stephens Inc
• Karl Shepard, AVP at RBC Capital Markets
• Catherine Mealor, Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)
• David Bishop, Director - Research at Hovde Group
• Manuel Navas, MD & Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson