CubeSmart Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: CubeSmart delivered a robust Q2 with a beat and raise, as net effective move-in rates jumped 28.3% year-over-year and trough-to-peak occupancy improved by 190 bps, exceeding prior expectations.
  • Positive Sentiment: Stabilizing operating trends carried into July, narrowing the rent gap to 3.3% and further closing year-over-year occupancy differences, prompting the Company to raise its 2025 guidance midpoint.
  • Neutral Sentiment: While core urban markets along the Acela Corridor and the New York MSA continue to outperform, Sunbelt regions like Florida and Arizona remain under pressure from new supply absorption.
  • Positive Sentiment: FFO per share was $0.65—at the high end of guidance—for Q2, supported by same-store revenue down only 0.5% offset by disciplined 1.2% expense growth that drove stronger-than-expected NOI resilience.
  • Positive Sentiment: CubeSmart’s balance sheet remains solid with net debt to EBITDA at 4.7× and ample liquidity, positioning the Company to opportunistically pursue accretive acquisitions when attractive returns emerge.
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Operator

Thank you for standing by. My name is Jeannie, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the CubeSmart Second Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session.

Operator

Thank you. Would now like to turn the call over to Josh Schulzer, Vice President of Finance. Please go ahead.

Josh Schutzer
Josh Schutzer
Vice President, Finance at CubeSmart

Thank you, Jeanne. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to CubeSmart's second quarter twenty twenty five earnings call. Participants on today's call include Chris Marr, President and Chief Executive Officer and Tim Martin, Chief Financial Officer. Our prepared remarks will be followed by a Q and A session.

Josh Schutzer
Josh Schutzer
Vice President, Finance at CubeSmart

In addition to our earnings release, which was issued yesterday evening, supplemental operating and financial data is available under the Investor Relations section of the company's website at www.cubesmart.com.

Josh Schutzer
Josh Schutzer
Vice President, Finance at CubeSmart

The company's remarks will include certain forward looking statements regarding earnings and strategy that involve risks, uncertainties and other factors that may cause the actual results to differ materially from these forward looking statements. The risks and factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from forward looking statements are provided in documents the company furnishes to or files with the Securities and Exchange Commission, specifically the Form eight ks we filed this morning, together with our earnings release filed with the Form eight ks and the Risk Factors section of the company's annual report on Form 10 ks. In addition, the company's remarks include reference to non GAAP measures. A reconciliation between GAAP and non GAAP measures can be found in the second quarter financial supplement posted on the company's website at www.cubesmart.com. I will now turn the call over to Chris.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

Thank you, Josh. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us. We posted a very solid beat and raise second quarter. The stabilization trends we experienced in the first quarter continued their positive momentum throughout the second quarter and into the month of July. Year to date, our key performance indicators have exceeded the expectations we articulated entering the year.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

Our expectation of an anemic housing market and the absence of any catalyst for a sharp recovery have proven accurate. Our belief in the continued health of our customer base, the resiliency of our product and the gradual improvement of fundamentals have been directionally accurate, albeit the impact of new supply and the pace and magnitude of improvement and new customer move in rates have been more positive compared to our base case assumptions.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

Digging a bit deeper into performance through the busy season, our trough to peak occupancy grew 190 basis points compared to 180 basis points last year. Our net effective rates for new customers grew 28.3% compared to 15% in 2024. Overall, rate trends have been very constructive. In the first quarter, move in rents were down 8.3% over the first quarter of last year. That gap in the second quarter contracted to 4%.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

And in July, the gap was 3.3% and has been narrowing throughout the month. We are experiencing similar solid trends in occupancy with the gap to last year narrowing further in July. Continuing one further layer deeper and looking at major market performance, our urban markets along the Acela Corridor, along with the stores in Chicago, continue to be our top performers, indicative of the more muted reliance on housing transactions and stickier customer base. And the laggards are the markets across the more volatile Sunbelt, primarily Florida and Arizona, which are more reliant on housing mobility and are still absorbing new supply. Our New York MSA continues to shine with solid sequential acceleration in net rental income from the first quarter.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

The boroughs continue to lead the way, benefiting from the reduction in new supply and the broad base of consumer and small business demand, followed by very good performance in Long Island, while Northern New Jersey continues to gradually improve as the supply is absorbed. Looking ahead, we expect the baseline for occupancy and move in rates should approach parity by the end of the year. Naturally, given the fact that we turn over approximately 5% of our cubes in any given month, it will take time for all of that positive momentum to flow through the revenue algorithm. We recognize that there remains a risk of volatility with the consumer as they have likely not fully absorbed the impact of ongoing governmental and monetary policy decisions. While acknowledging that risk, our results through our busy season, along with more recent trends, have made us increasingly more confident that our operational trends will continue to steadily improve through the 2025, putting us on much better footing as we head into 2026.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

Thank you, and I'd now like to turn the call over to Tim Martin, our Chief Financial Officer.

Timothy Martin
CFO at CubeSmart

Thank you, Chris. Good morning, everyone, and as always, thanks for taking a few minutes out of your day and spending it with us. Second quarter results reflect exactly what Chris was touching on, the continuation of stabilizing operating trends that we talked about back in the first quarter. Same store revenue growth was down 0.5% over last year with average occupancy for our same store portfolio down 80 basis points to 90.6% during the quarter.

Timothy Martin
CFO at CubeSmart

From a rate perspective, our move in rates during Q2 were down about 4% year over year, improving from down 8% in Q1 and from down 10% back in Q4 of last year. Same store operating expenses grew 1.2% over last year, again this quarter trending a bit better than our expectations. We've had sector leading expense controls over the past three years, and our team's focus in this area continues to show up in the results. I'll expand on some of the expense line items in a moment when discussing changes to our full year guidance ranges. Revenue growth of negative 0.5 combined with 1.2% expense growth yielded negative 1.1% same store NOI growth for the quarter.

Timothy Martin
CFO at CubeSmart

We reported FFO per share as adjusted of $0.65 for the quarter, which was at the high end of our guidance range entering the quarter. We were quiet this quarter as it relates to on balance sheet investments. The team continues to evaluate a healthy volume of acquisition opportunities, but returns on marketed transactions haven't reached compelling levels on a risk adjusted basis from our perspective. We remain well positioned with plenty of capacity when we do find attractive deals. We added 30 stores to our third party management platform during the quarter, bringing that total to eight seventy three stores at quarter end.

Timothy Martin
CFO at CubeSmart

We have seen some churn in the third party portfolio from larger transactions, including our acquisition of 28 stores from our joint venture last quarter, as well as a handful of portfolios that our third party owners have sold this year. Balance sheet metrics remain strong with net debt to EBITDA at 4.7 times. Our $300,000,000 of twenty twenty five senior unsecured notes mature in November, so we will be actively monitoring the market in the coming months with a focus on issuing long term unsecured debt and effectively pushing that debt out to the end of our maturity schedule. Details of our 2025 earnings guidance and related assumptions were included in our release last evening. Second quarter results, combined with the continuation of stabilizing operating trends, were the primary drivers of our improved FFO per share and our same store operating estimates.

Timothy Martin
CFO at CubeSmart

Overall trends, as we've mentioned, continue to move in a positive direction with all key operating metrics seeing better than forecasted performance through July. The negative occupancy and rate gaps have narrowed throughout the year. The cadence and pace that these improving trends have on year over year revenue growth as we look at the balance of the year are impacted by a variety of things, including the timing of changes we made in our fee structure mid last year, the timing related to rate increases to existing customers and how that flows through revenue year over year, as well as the reality that only about 5% of our customers churn on a monthly basis. Embedded in our expectations for third quarter results is our expectation that same store revenue growth will be slightly more negative than it was in the second quarter and then improving as we get into the fourth quarter. So while we're very encouraged by the positive trends in operating fundamentals, just want to manage expectations that these improvements will take a little bit of time to flow through.

Timothy Martin
CFO at CubeSmart

On the expense front, as I mentioned, we had a really good 2025 as we continue to be laser focused on improving expense efficiencies. Our improved expectations that led to our improved expense growth guidance range were driven by a variety of line items, but the leading areas of improvement were the much better than anticipated insurance renewal in May, successful property tax appeals and the impact of efficiency focused projects at our stores, including staffing and telecom initiatives. That wraps up our prepared remarks for this morning. Thanks again for joining us on the call. And at this time, Jeannie, let's open up the call for some questions.

Operator

And your first question comes from the line of Sameer Kunal with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Samir Khanal
Samir Khanal
Director - US REITs at Bank of America

Yes. Good afternoon, everybody. I guess, Chris, thanks for the color on July. It looks like you are seeing positive trends, which is good to see. Just curious on the revenue side, you took the midpoint up, which was good, but you also took the top end down slightly.

Samir Khanal
Samir Khanal
Director - US REITs at Bank of America

So I guess what were you assuming at the top end that you felt was sort of out of reach based on your assumptions?

Timothy Martin
CFO at CubeSmart

Hey, Samir. It's Tim. The yes, the top end would have assumed a stronger improvement in overall levels of demand. And we're just reining in the, you know, the high end of those expectations as a result of that. That's not how the businesses have played out.

Timothy Martin
CFO at CubeSmart

We just don't see that the high end is in the cards. So I brought it down. But again, would much rather focus on the fact that we raised guidance in the midpoint than the part that you're pointing out that we narrowed the top end.

Samir Khanal
Samir Khanal
Director - US REITs at Bank of America

Okay. Got it. And then I guess on the revenue growth as it relates to New York, still very strong versus the portfolio, but did decelerate a little bit. Maybe provide some color around the New York boroughs and kind of what you're seeing maybe in the Northern New Jersey area. Any color would be helpful. Thanks.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

Yes. So the positive trends across the portfolio are also embedded in the New York MSA as a whole. So net rental income accelerated from Q1 to Q2 fairly nicely. The overall total revenue came down a bit. Again, back to Tim's comments at the beginning related to changes we made last year in fees, etcetera, that had a very difficult comp, particularly given the nature of the customer in the boroughs, difficult comp for Q2.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

So very encouraged by net rental income growth continue to move in a really positive direction in both the boroughs as well as in Long Island. I think as it relates to North Jersey, that same store cadence, net rental income there, we're seeing continued movement in a good direction, albeit it does remain slightly negative year over year and therefore is a bit of a drag on the MSA as a whole. But no real meaningful supply being delivered. The supply in North Jersey is being absorbed. And so overall, really pleased with New York, the cadence of New York, continued stickiness of the customer base there and our position on a relative basis to our peers and our outperformance relative to other operators in that market during the quarter.

Timothy Martin
CFO at CubeSmart

Thanks a lot. Thank you.

Josh Schutzer
Josh Schutzer
Vice President, Finance at CubeSmart

Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Goldsmith with UBS. Please go ahead.

Michael Goldsmith
Michael Goldsmith
US REITs Analyst at UBS Group

Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my questions. You mentioned twice on the call that the monthly turnover of your customers is 5%. And then can you help us tie that to just the pace of recovery in that the third quarter is going to be a little bit more negative than the second quarter? And just how street rates are continuing to close the gap and get better, but it just takes time for that to flow through.

Michael Goldsmith
Michael Goldsmith
US REITs Analyst at UBS Group

Can you kind of just tie that all together and just provide a picture of how the recovery and the stabilization should take place?

Timothy Martin
CFO at CubeSmart

Yes. Thanks, Michael. So it is the reality that the operating fundamentals, all of the key metrics that we look at, whether it's levels of demand, pricing to new customers, narrowing the occupancy gap, all of those things are improving. The reality is that probably the most encouraging thing about 2025 is it's feeling more normal from day to day, week to week, month to month, certainly more normal than it has been over the last two years. As we've talked about for the past several quarters, if not the past two years, it's just been a little bit bumpy here as we've gone through post pandemic kind of the reset that we've all been through the last three years.

Timothy Martin
CFO at CubeSmart

And so what that does is it creates a little bit of that volatility that we saw last year creates interesting comps year over year. So it just doesn't naturally flow through in steady and programmatic way, the way everybody that's building a model would like it to. And so that's why we're pointing out that there still is a little bit of volatility in how all of that flows through. The 5% is just a reminder that even if we have a really good month, it's a really good month that churns 5% And so it just takes time as all that goes through.

Timothy Martin
CFO at CubeSmart

We touched upon some of the things that are creating the bumpiness and perhaps, I guess, the unpredictability from your perspective on how all that flows through related to what we did with fees, what we did and what we continue to do with rate increases to existing customers. And all of those things create a little bit of noise in how all of the positive fundamentals flow through to the bottom line. Ultimately, all of this is gearing towards the ultimate stabilization and kind of the end of the reset. And I think we're going to be in a great spot here as we think about where we're starting twenty twenty six.

Michael Goldsmith
Michael Goldsmith
US REITs Analyst at UBS Group

Thanks for that, Tim. And then just as a follow-up, first quarter, you were able to acquire out of a JV, little activity in the second quarter. So can you provide a little color that you're seeing in the transaction market? Is there a lot on the market? What does pricing look like?

Michael Goldsmith
Michael Goldsmith
US REITs Analyst at UBS Group

It sounds like it hasn't been too favorable to your appetite.

Michael Goldsmith
Michael Goldsmith
US REITs Analyst at UBS Group

So can you just provide a little more color on that? Thanks.

Timothy Martin
CFO at CubeSmart

Yes. Thanks, Michael. Not a lot has changed from what we've talked about in the prior handful of quarters.

Timothy Martin
CFO at CubeSmart

We continue to underwrite. I would say deal volume is up from where it was last year. The number of opportunities we're underwriting is a little bit higher than where we were this time last year. But the result remains the same, which is we're competitive on some deals. We're not as competitive on others.

Timothy Martin
CFO at CubeSmart

Just on a risk adjusted basis, where it makes sense for us to invest based on our outlook for an individual opportunity and our cost of capital, just not quite there yet, just not able to transact in any meaningful way.

Michael Goldsmith
Michael Goldsmith
US REITs Analyst at UBS Group

Thanks for that. Good luck in the back half.

Timothy Martin
CFO at CubeSmart

Thanks. Appreciate it.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Todd Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Todd Thomas
Todd Thomas
MD & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets

Yes, hi, thanks. Good morning. I was just wondering, just following up a little bit on your comments around same store revenue growth stabilizing and getting cover in the fourth quarter later in the year. You talked about the New York City Metro. I'm curious if you can speak to the operating trends in the Sunbelt markets where it's been a little bit weaker, Texas, Phoenix, Atlanta.

Todd Thomas
Todd Thomas
MD & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets

Is the inflection that you're anticipating later in the year consistent with what you would expect to see in those markets? Or will those markets take a little bit longer to recover still?

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

Yes. Todd, I think the positive directional trends are across markets, right? So when you think about just as an example, if we think about acceleration from markets kind of first quarter to second quarter and then you've got some of the Sunbelt markets that are actually showing that improvement Orlando, Miami, Atlanta. I think six of our top 20 showed some acceleration albeit still not positive. So I think we're on the one hand, I think you're seeing things being constructive.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

On the other hand, when you think about the supply that is out there and that is supposed to be delivered, and again, I think some of these projects will clearly lag into next year, but it eventually will be delivered, you still have pretty high amount of deliveries in Atlanta and Houston and Dallas and Phoenix. So again, I recognize that there are large MSAs. They're sprawling. It's possible to construct storage in those markets where you're not necessarily clumped together with existing product as you are in some of the urban areas. But I do think it will be a longer time frame for those higher impacted supply markets to recover, but I do think trends will get better. Okay.

Todd Thomas
Todd Thomas
MD & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets

Sound seems pretty broad based. The the other question I had was, this morning, we got a little bit of a weaker jobs report, an uncertainty around the economy and consumers been high for a little while in general. As you think about your your ECRI program and and revenue management, do you shift your your strength at all, and it's sort of a proactive way to, you know, consider a potentially weakening macro or economic backdrop. Does anything change, or do you let the system continue to manage it based on demand?

Timothy Martin
CFO at CubeSmart

Yeah. I think fundamentally, because of the nature of the product is just one in which the need is so broad based, which is why it's so resilient, the systems will identify the need and the expected demand and then sort of match those two up and lather rents repeat. I do think we watch, again, the health of the existing customer relative to kind of what's going on macro. But as I think we've said to date, the existing customer continues to remain pretty healthy.

Todd Thomas
Todd Thomas
MD & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. Thank you.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Juan Sanabria with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Juan Sanabria
Juan Sanabria
Managing Director at BMO Capital Markets

Hi. Apologies if I missed this, but I guess what is the main driver of the expected decel in same store revenue in third quarter versus second quarter? Is it a product that's tougher comps in any kind of other ancillary revenue line or is it something else?

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

I'm sorry, Juan. We just to just to reiterate, it's it's a combination of the timing as to really just how things flow through and show up in revenue. It's It's the timing of when we made adjustments to some of the fees earlier in 2024. It's the reality as to how the rate increases to existing customers just flow through revenue and the timing of that, volatility that we are seeing less of now, but we did see volatility last year, which creates a little bit of bumpiness in a variety of different comps, and then just the reality that that as as fundamentals continue to improve, you get a little bit of that help in each month, but but but only a little bit given the churn. So it just takes time for all this to flow through.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

We're super positive about the direction of all of the trends and operating fundamentals. Just want to make sure that we're telegraphing how we think it's all going to flow through ultimately into the revenue result that you should expect to see for the balance of the year.

Juan Sanabria
Juan Sanabria
Managing Director at BMO Capital Markets

And then just you noted three p. M. Business saw some churn. I guess what's the expectation in the second half? Are there any other large or chunkier portfolios that are being sold away from you guys that could see that number of third party managers actually go down? Just curious on what visibility you have there.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

Not a great deal of visibility. Obviously, the stores that are leaving our platform as they're sold that we know about, we're incorporating that into our expectations. We've talked about it in the prior quarters. One of the benefits that we've had from a relatively sluggish transaction market over the past eighteen to twenty four months has been that we had been experiencing less churn as a result of a slow transaction market. Now that it's starting to pick up at least a little bit, we're starting to see some stores leave the platform.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

And part of the business, we try to do a great job for our owners. I think we do. And oftentimes, that positions them to accomplish their objectives, which is to maximize the cash flow and be in a good position to transact and realize a profit. So part of the business, what we can do to control it is to continue to do a great job of onboarding stores, 30 more stores onboarded to the program this year. That's the part that we have a little bit more control over. The rest of it is kind of a result.

Juan Sanabria
Juan Sanabria
Managing Director at BMO Capital Markets

Appreciate that. Thank you.

Josh Schutzer
Josh Schutzer
Vice President, Finance at CubeSmart

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Eric Wolf with Citi. Please go ahead.

Eric Wolfe
Eric Wolfe
Director at Citi

Thanks. It's Nick Joseph here with Eric. You touched on the high amount deliveries in some of the markets and the continued impact that you're feeling there. Are there any indications that construction starts ticking up in any of your markets? Obviously, dealing with the residual of starts that have already occurred.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

Morning. No, I think it's actually the opposite. For the most part, as you would expect, raw material costs are up, land values certainly have not gone down. Labor is challenging to obtain and expensive. And your cost of borrowing, if it's available for speculative development, is tight.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

And then trying to pencil out returns that make sense in this market today, given all that for your potential equity investors, is also a challenge. So obviously, are coming out of the ground or had already come out of the ground or getting completed. But I think as we look out a little bit further and you look at 2627, I think we're gonna see, a lot of delays, a lot of projects that don't get started until some of those factors that I just discussed are resolved more favorably. So I think supply will continue to be overall constructive, albeit in certain markets, it's continued it will continue to have a bit of headwind.

Eric Wolfe
Eric Wolfe
Director at Citi

That's helpful. How far off do you think or how far do in place rents need to move before supply starts to pencil?

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

Yes. I mean, that's just such a micro market specific. And again, it all comes back down to on the cost side as well. And if you own the dirt, how long have you owned it, what your basis is, etcetera. So given where rates are, again, relative to certainly where they would have been in 2020 or 2021 when some of these developers would have started focusing in on these projects, I think we've still got a bit of a ways to go.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Spencer Glintier with Green Street. Please go ahead. Thank you.

Spenser Glimcher
Managing Director at Green Street Advisors, LLC

Can you just provide an update on the Texas JV you entered into at the beginning of the year? I'm just curious how these properties have been trending from an operational standpoint.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

Hey, Spencer. Good morning. The Hines portfolio you're referring to, the Dallas stores, everything is going very much according to what we thought would happen. That portfolio, as a reminder, extraordinarily attractive to us because those assets, if you could have taken a map and said, Where would you like to add stores to complement our existing footprint in the Dallas MSA? The overwhelming majority of those were basically a perfect fit for us as to how they fit in.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

So the integration of those stores went very, very smoothly. The pricing of those stores and how they're complementary to our existing assets has played out just as we had hoped and expected. So nothing really to report other than we're delighted with the transaction. It's performing very much in line with with how we thought it would.

Spenser Glimcher
Managing Director at Green Street Advisors, LLC

Okay. Great. Are are you able to share maybe what the occupancy and or rental gap is between those assets and then the day for pool?

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

I don't have that right in front of me. Happy to follow-up with you.

Spenser Glimcher
Managing Director at Green Street Advisors, LLC

Okay. And then maybe just finish looking gears. I know you guys already talked about the Sunbelt quite a lot, but maybe just more specifically, and I know it's a smaller market, but if you could just share a little color on the Austin market dynamics. I'm just curious what drove operating expenses so high in the quarter.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

Austin, on the operating expense side, is taxes. So that's just the nature of timing and getting information from the state, etcetera. Overall, Austin is impacted by supply, as is Dallas. Again, one of those markets where five years ago everybody would have told you there you can't build another self storage facility. And here we are today with a lot more self storage facilities.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

So good market long term, under some supply pressure at the moment. And then on the operating expense side, as I said, just to and specifically on taxes, it's not bad news this year. It was good news last year. We had a refund we had a nice refund last year, which creates a difficult comp when comparing this year's expenses to last year's.

Spenser Glimcher
Managing Director at Green Street Advisors, LLC

Okay. Very helpful. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Thanks. Your next question comes from the line of Michael Griffin with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Michael Griffin
Director at Evercore

Great. Thanks. I'm curious if unpack you the same store expense guidance a bit. Obviously, you guys have done a good job controlling expenses and about 1% year to date in the first half. Looking ahead, I mean, this acceleration, I guess, guidance probably about 3% in the back half.

Michael Griffin
Director at Evercore

Is that a timing issue? It seems like comps from the 2024 may be more favorable. I don't know if there's kind of anything you can add there about why you're expecting that acceleration to get to the revised midpoint?

Timothy Martin
CFO at CubeSmart

Yeah. The part of it is what we talked about last quarter. We had some of our beat in the first quarter was timing related, but some of it was better than expected seasonal type expenses. So that was some good news that we talked about last quarter that that we're not expecting to repeat itself or we don't have the opportunity for it not to snow in in August and have that help our results. Part of it is some of the efficiencies that we've seen on personnel expense.

Timothy Martin
CFO at CubeSmart

We've been fortunate to be able to capture a lot of efficiencies, as I mentioned, over the past now north of three years. But at some point, those efficiencies kind of lap and you're back to kind of normal inflationary type growth in those line items. Some of the cadence between what we experienced in the first half of the year versus the back half of the year is timing related. We are going to have a little bit heavier repair and maintenance. Our expectation is that our repair and maintenance expense will be a little bit higher in the second half of the year than it has been in the first, in line with our expectations, but a lot of that comes down to timing.

Timothy Martin
CFO at CubeSmart

Marketing is always the wildcard as to we're going to spend based on the opportunities that we see and the returns that we get on that incremental spend. We also have a little bit of a difficult comp in the fourth quarter related to real estate taxes, some refunds that we had last year relative to an expectation of not very many. Who knows? Maybe we get some across the finish line in the fourth quarter, but that's not our expectation as we sit here. The biggest driver on the positive side when you think about the back half is on the insurance renewal.

Timothy Martin
CFO at CubeSmart

I mentioned that briefly, but we had a very favorable property insurance renewal back in May that was better than what we expected. Our risk management team did a great job there and we're in a much better position than we thought we were going be from an insurance standpoint.

Michael Griffin
Director at Evercore

Thanks, Tim. That's some helpful context. And then maybe just on the new customer acquisition front. Obviously, kind of Google searches and search engine optimization has been a priority over the past couple of years. But as we get this emergence of AI or GPT and usage there, do you have a sense of how many prospective customers are starting to use these AI tools to find storage units?

Michael Griffin
Director at Evercore

Or is most of the traffic still coming in from traditional Internet searches?

Timothy Martin
CFO at CubeSmart

Yeah. Most of the traffic's still coming in through traditional Internet searches. The LLMs are evolving. And when you think about the utilization and the types of queries, you know, you can get your mind around those queries that involve some form of additional information, judgment. For example, you could see using an LLM to say, which college would be appropriate for my daughter?

Timothy Martin
CFO at CubeSmart

Because you're gonna get that interaction then with a follow-up to say, well, can you help me by giving some more information? What is she interested in? What part of the country? What's your what's your affordability index, etcetera? Compare that to self storage near me.

Timothy Martin
CFO at CubeSmart

There there's just not that same level. And so I think, you know, we were with our our our partners, our agency, and and our friends at Google last week digging into all this and the use of Gemini and and how one can get ahead of the curve here, and it's moving fast. Our marketing team is all over it. But I would say to date, the traditional sort of self storage near me on a map continues to dominate. Great. That's it for me. Thanks for the time.

Michael Griffin
Director at Evercore

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Ki Bin Kim with Truist. Please go ahead.

Ki Bin Kim
Ki Bin Kim
MD - US REIT Equity Research at Truist

Thank you. Good morning. Just to follow-up on that previous question. Let's say more of that search gets funneled through AI agent. Do you think that leads to price discovery becoming a bigger factor for customers?

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

Yeah. Ki Bin, I think I think at this point, it really does seem that that interaction through through a more AI driven search, the the underlying tenants of what gives the response again, you're looking for that response that, regardless of the form, is meant to deliver, the best answer for the query. I still think you're gonna come down to things like reviews, like, you know, the the speed and and validity of your website, like, you know, anything that gives your product a higher higher validity, higher respect within the answer that, you know, whatever engine is trying to get you to. So at the moment, you know, there are going to be there are going to be some things that that change. They always do in the in the search environment as, you know, they always have as Google has changed its priorities and algorithms over the years.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

But, again, fresh off of this summit, I think, at the moment, you know, it's a it's a work in progress. And and, again, will video be more important? Will, you know, other things can get get higher priority in terms of of the responsiveness? Probably, but exactly what they are today. Work in progress.

Ki Bin Kim
Ki Bin Kim
MD - US REIT Equity Research at Truist

Okay. And just a broader question. Do you think the sectors software sector's rents can grow something closer to inflationary levels even if housing doesn't come back, given that we're probably lapping some of that? And assuming supply is kind of static, do you think the rents can rise in this group?

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

Yes. I think again, I think once you've reestablished a baseline that is reflective of the existing demand, what you need then is that churn. Right? Again, back to the number of customers that come in and out every month, after you've reestablished that baseline, then I think you grow from there. And again, I think that I think we're on that path, both CUBE and the industry at the moment.

Ki Bin Kim
Ki Bin Kim
MD - US REIT Equity Research at Truist

Okay. And Chris, if I can squeeze on a third one. You might like this one. I'm just curious, like, why do you guys have a triple b rating from S and P Global, whereas, like, EXR that has more leverage has a better rating? And now looking at your pricing grid, don't think you're paying more for it, but is there any are you leaving any money on the table for not getting a better rating?

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

Man, I might have you join my next call with our friends at S and P and Moody's. I think you make some valid points there. I think part of the disconnect, certainly from a consistency of credit metrics and conservative credit metrics and continued access to our unsecured bondholders. We have an awful long track record with this strategy, and I think that goes a long way down that path. I think size becomes part of it, part part of the differentiator.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

But but I I would agree with with the premise of what you're of what you're suggesting and certainly something that we're aware of and and and think about and talk about.

Ki Bin Kim
Ki Bin Kim
MD - US REIT Equity Research at Truist

Okay. Thank you, guys.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

I think at the end of the day, Ki Bin, when we when we do transact, I do think that there's the view of S and P and Moody's and there's the rating. And then there's ultimately, as with anything, there's how investors look at us and look at that rating. And I do think we get credit for all of the metrics that you're referring to in how our bonds trade. So it's not like there's a specific point where you say, You have this rating, therefore this is your pricing. I think our investors in our bonds do look at all of the things that you're looking at as they think about how to price our bonds, both our existing bonds and future issuances.

Ki Bin Kim
Ki Bin Kim
MD - US REIT Equity Research at Truist

Okay. Thank you very much.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Mike Mueller with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Michael Mueller
Michael Mueller
Equity Analyst at JP Morgan

Yes. Hi. Because, Chris, when you look back over the past thirty years or so in the business, have there been any like clear triggers or catalysts that caused stagnant market move in rates to move up outside of housing cycles? I mean, know significant supply kind of does the opposite, but just curious about on the upside.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

Well, I think to the sharpness of the upside, certainly, the period in in in the '20 through the very beginning of '22 in in my thirty years was the was the sharpest of the op driven, you know, by the various factors related to the pandemic.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

I think when you look back, you're right. Supply is always going to be the always gonna be the headwind. Macro events that cause the consumer to freeze in place, COVID, Lehman bankruptcy, bankruptcy, nineeleven, those tend to cause a short term blip that freezes demand. Generally, when you take out supply and you take out black swan events, pricing has always tended to sort of move up at or a little bit higher than inflation. I think the last several years, as we've had a variety of differing strategies across the sector as to how to price the new customer, I think that's created a bit of volatility that we did not have in the past.

Michael Mueller
Michael Mueller
Equity Analyst at JP Morgan

Got it. Okay. And second question, how has ECRI pushback been recently compared to, say, the past couple of years?

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

No change.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

I think we're, you know, again, still in an environment where, you know, the existing customer remains pretty healthy. And I think and I think the stickiness of them and the nature of the product, you know, has supported the the, TCRI process. As as Tim talked about, the one the one thing we are doing more of is testing and trying out different cadence, different strategy around the timing and the amount of that increase, which has created some bumpiness, as we've talked about here for a while. But overall, general reaction from the customers is unchanged. Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Ravi Vaidya with Mizuho. Please go ahead.

Ravi Vaidya
Ravi Vaidya
Vice President at Mizuho Financial Group

Hi there. Good morning. I wanted to ask about the transaction markets. I think that we might see more product coming to market in in the second half of the year here. Maybe can you describe your your appetite execute in acquisitions and maybe some of your funding sources?

Ravi Vaidya
Ravi Vaidya
Vice President at Mizuho Financial Group

And what are some of the IRRs or benchmark returns that you're looking to target as you make these decisions? Yes.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

Thanks. As I mentioned earlier, the transaction market, the volume of opportunities that we've had to underwrite this year is up a little bit from where it would have been a year ago. Seasonally, the transaction market in our sector tends to pick up here in the coming months as many sellers want to get through that one more busy season, that one more leg of rate growth or occupancy growth in order to sell their assets. So this is the time of the year where if you are a seller, you're starting to think about gearing up to bring your store to market. This tends to be seasonally a good time to go forward.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

From our perspective, we are very focused on finding opportunities that are consistent with our overall portfolio growth strategy, which is primarily focused in top 40 MSAs, high quality assets in high quality markets. So that's our that's what we're looking for on balance sheet. And then from return standpoint, we're looking for things that are certainly if they're stable acquisitions, we're looking at pricing that would be accretive to our earnings. If there's something that's less than stable or something that we see a good opportunity for it to grow significantly under our operating platform, then we're going to look at stabilized type returns and think about how potential acquisition is complementary or not to our existing portfolio. There are a variety of things that we're looking for.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

Ultimately, where we are right now is that, as I had mentioned, on a risk adjusted basis, given our cost of capital and our return requirements, we're just not seeing we're not seeing things of high quality trade at prices that work for us. I think that could change any day. I think that could change tomorrow. From a how would we fund it, we have an $850,000,000 line of credit. We have great access to a variety of different capital sources.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

We have established a leverage level, as I talked about earlier, that gives us quite a bit of capacity. If we saw a wave of opportunity, we don't need to be reliant upon issuing equity because we have some capacity in our balance sheet that we could, for a period of time, find some things that are if they're attractive, we could utilize debt to do that. We have a significant amount of free cash flow that we generate each year that could also fund those opportunities. I would think for us that the even sector wide, I think the opportunities are as you're coming out of a development cycle, you would think that a lot of the stores that have been developed over the past two, three, four years are developed as they traditionally are by merchant builders and by pockets of capital that do not have forever timelines on how long they want to own their self storage asset. So I do think that there is a building wave of potential opportunities of folks that have been sitting on the sidelines from a selling standpoint that ultimately need liquidity and desire liquidity and want to come to market.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

They're just waiting for a better time as are we as a buyer waiting for a time where the math makes sense for us and returns make sense for us and for our shareholders.

Ravi Vaidya
Ravi Vaidya
Vice President at Mizuho Financial Group

Got it. Thanks so much for the color. Appreciate it, guys.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

Thank you. Appreciate it.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Chris Marr for closing remarks.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

Thank you, everyone. It was a very solid quarter here at Cube. Those stabilizing trends continued into July, which gave us comfort and confidence to raise our guidance expectations for the year. So we believe we're in a good position here as we navigate the back half of 'twenty five, and we're optimistic about what 2026 will hold for us. I think we'll continue to see reduced levels of deliveries, reduced impact from supply.

Christopher Marr
Christopher Marr
President & CEO at CubeSmart

The existing customer continues to be quite healthy. So a good backdrop as things stabilize here and we begin to see more positive opportunities as we move into next year. So thank you all for listening. Enjoy the rest of your summer, and we will look forward to speaking with you on our third quarter earnings call.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.

Executives
Analysts
    • Timothy Martin
      CFO at CubeSmart
    • Samir Khanal
      Director - US REITs at Bank of America
    • Michael Goldsmith
      US REITs Analyst at UBS Group
    • Todd Thomas
      MD & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets
    • Juan Sanabria
      Managing Director at BMO Capital Markets
    • Eric Wolfe
      Director at Citi
    • Spenser Glimcher
      Managing Director at Green Street Advisors, LLC
    • Michael Griffin
      Director at Evercore
    • Ki Bin Kim
      MD - US REIT Equity Research at Truist
    • Michael Mueller
      Equity Analyst at JP Morgan
    • Ravi Vaidya
      Vice President at Mizuho Financial Group