NASDAQ:LTRX Lantronix Q4 2025 Earnings Report $7.08 +0.64 (+9.94%) As of 05/22/2026 04:00 PM Eastern ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Lantronix EPS ResultsActual EPSN/AConsensus EPS $0.01Beat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/ALantronix Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected Revenue$28.48 millionBeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/ALantronix Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2025Date8/27/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateWednesday, August 27, 2025Conference Call Time5:00PM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Lantronix Q4 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 27, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: The company reported $28.8 million in Q4 revenue and a non-GAAP EPS of $0.01, both within guidance and marking a return to core revenue growth excluding Gridspertise. Positive Sentiment: Lantronix secured a design win with Redcat’s Teal drones for the U.S. Army’s short-range reconnaissance program, began shipments in June, and gained early visibility into fiscal 2026 revenue. Positive Sentiment: A multi-year agreement with a major U.S. mobile carrier to modernize 50,000 backup power systems is underway, with initial shipments and future ARR from the company’s perception platform expected to drive long-term growth. Neutral Sentiment: Fourth-quarter gross margin dipped to around 40% due to inventory write-downs and higher tariffs, but management expects margins to recover to the mid-40% range in fiscal 2026 through supply chain and cost initiatives. Neutral Sentiment: The company set Q1 fiscal 2026 guidance at $28.5 million–$30.5 million in revenue and $0.02–$0.04 in non-GAAP EPS, reflecting continued momentum from recent design wins and a more diversified core business. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallLantronix Q4 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xThere are 6 speakers on the call. Speaker 300:00:00Today, and welcome to the Lantronix Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2025 Results Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on a touch-tone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Brent Stringham, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:00:33Good afternoon, and thank you for joining our Fiscal Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2025 Earnings Call. Joining me today is our President and Chief Executive Officer, Saleel Awsare. A live and archived webcast of today's call will be available on the company's website. In addition, you can find the call-in details for the phone replay in today's earnings release. During this call, management may make forward-looking statements which involve risks and uncertainties that could cause our results to differ materially from management's current expectations. We encourage you to review the cautionary statements and risk factors contained in the earnings release, which was furnished to the SEC today and is available on our website, and in the company's SEC filings, such as its 10-K and 10-Qs. Lantronix undertakes no obligation to revise or update publicly any forward-looking statements to reflect future events or circumstances. Speaker 200:01:31Please refer to the news release and the financial information in the Investor Relations section of our website for additional details that will supplement management's commentary. Furthermore, during the call, the company will discuss non-GAAP financial measures. Today's earnings release, which is posted in the Investor Relations section of our website, describes the differences between our non-GAAP and GAAP reporting and presents reconciliations for the non-GAAP financial measures that we use. With that, I will now turn the call over to Saleel. Operator00:02:06Thanks, Brent, and thank you, everyone, for joining today's call. Fiscal 2025 marked a turning point for Lantronix, a year of disciplined execution, meaningful transformation, and building the foundation for sustainable long-term growth. The progress was evident in our fourth quarter results, with revenue of $28.8 million and a non-GAAP EPS of $0.01, both well within our quarterly guidance range. These results reflect a return to growth in our core revenue base, excluding the impact of Grid Expertise, our EMEA smart grid customer. As we enter the new fiscal year, we see powerful industry dynamics creating significant opportunities for Lantronix. We believe we are entering a multi-year growth cycle for unmanned aerial systems, supported by record defense funding and favorable regulatory momentum. According to the U.S. Department of Defense, more than $13 billion is earmarked for unmanned platforms in 2026. That increased focus on secure, U.S.-made technologies. Operator00:03:18We believe the demand environment for our solutions has never been stronger. Against this backdrop of growing demand, we are beginning to see meaningful traction in the market, highlighted by our most recent win with Red Cat's Teal drones, which we formally announced last week. We've been collaborating with their team for some time, and our TAA and NDAA compliance solution now powers Teal's Black Widow drones for the U.S. Army's short-range reconnaissance program. As a Blue-UAS-approved platform, this program highlights both the rigor of the qualification process and the mission-critical role of our technology. We began shipments in the June quarter, generating initial revenue and strengthening visibility into fiscal 2026. We believe our competitive edge lies in our deep camera expertise. Military and other high-performance drone requirements include advanced camera tuning, sensor fusion, and complex software integration, capabilities we have refined over many years. Operator00:04:32Equally important, being North America-based and fully compliant with NDAA and TAA regulations further positions us as a trusted supplier to OEMs and defense contractors engaged in U.S. government programs. Red Cat's Teal drones exemplify our secure edge compute solutions, driving long-term growth opportunities in the drone market. Beyond defense, our partnership with Aurora highlights our ability to deliver high-performance edge AI solutions for commercial drone applications. By combining our compute module with Teledyne FLIR's thermal camera and Prism AI software, we enable more intelligent, real-time decision-making for applications like autonomous flight, surveillance, and industrial inspection. Early market feedback has been very positive, and we expect revenue contribution from these solutions to begin in fiscal 2026. Looking ahead, we see broader industry trends, including government investment and rising demand for U.S.-based suppliers, creating a strong runway for both defense and commercial growth. Operator00:05:51Moving to our next win, we recently signed a multi-year agreement with a major U.S. mobile carrier to provide devices and services as they modernize over 50,000 backup power systems at wireless cell sites nationwide. This win is a strong validation of our edge infrastructure strategy, enabling resilient network uptime, improved lifecycle management, and real-time operational visibility across thousands of distributed locations. We booked nearly all the initial units and have begun shipping in the June quarter. With additional orders expected as the rollout continues, we believe this is a long-term opportunity with this customer and expect additional volume beyond this initial deployment, reflecting the depth of our relationship and the strategic nature of the program. In addition to the sizable hardware deployment, this design win also incorporates our perception platform, enabling remote monitoring and ongoing management of connected assets. Operator00:06:57As these devices are brought online, we expect they will contribute to our growing base of high-margin annual recurring revenue. This win also opens the door to broader collaboration with the carrier over time, including additional software-enabled services and potential expansion across their larger network footprint. These types of wins highlight our transition from a traditional hardware supplier to a strategic platform partner, helping customers accelerate intelligence at the edge. This evolution positions us to capture a larger share of customer wallets, deepen long-term relationships, and embed our solutions more directly in their critical operations. By moving up the value chain, we are not only expanding revenue opportunities but also creating stickier, high-margin business over time. Operator00:07:55Turning to our growth outlook, as we turn the corner into a new fiscal year, we are seeing growing momentum fueled by recent design wins that are expanding our customer base and enhancing the predictability of our business. This diversification marks an important step forward as we move past the impact of Grid Expertise and underscores the underlying strength of our core platform. Q1 is off to a strong start, with healthy engagement from both new and existing customers across multiple verticals. Our core business has stabilized and is now positioned to deliver growth over the longer term. At the same time, we are beginning to see encouraging traction in our edge AI strategy. Looking ahead, our visibility in fiscal 2026 has improved, supported by momentum across the two strategic pillars of our platform: edge IoT, spanning compute and connectivity, and network infrastructure, encompassing out-of-band management and networking solutions. Operator00:08:58The momentum is driven by recent design wins in edge IoT and out-of-band, continued investment in product innovation, and expanding relationships across our distribution and technology partner ecosystems. Together, these initiatives reinforce our ability to scale profitably and capture long-term opportunities at the intelligent edge. With that, I'll turn the call over to Brent to provide more detail on our financial performance. Brent? Speaker 200:09:29Thanks, Saleel. Building on that strategic context, I'll now walk through our fourth quarter and fiscal 2025 financial results, highlight the key drivers behind our performance, and provide our outlook for the first quarter of fiscal 2026. Looking back on fiscal 2025, we delivered revenue of $123 million, reflecting the transition from a record fiscal 2024 to a more normalized revenue base. As we've noted before, fiscal 2024 included a significant contribution from Grid Expertise, which accounted for roughly 25% of revenue that year. In fiscal 2025, we recognized just over $11 million from Grid Expertise in the first half, with minimal revenue contribution in the second half of the year as the customer continued to work through its prior deployments. Speaker 200:10:21Excluding this customer, our core revenue base stabilized in the second half of the year, and the operational discipline we've driven over the last 12 months positions us for more sustainable and diversified growth in fiscal 2026. In the fourth quarter of fiscal 2025, we delivered revenue of $28.8 million, a sequential increase from $28.5 million in the prior quarter, and approximately 4% higher than fiscal Q4 2024 when excluding the impact of Grid Expertise. This growth, driven by continued momentum in our edge IoT products, underscores the strength of our core platform and the benefits of a more diversified revenue base. Turning to margins, in the fourth quarter, GAAP gross margin was 40%, compared to 43.5% in the prior quarter and 38.1% in the year-ago period. On a non-GAAP basis, gross margin was 40.6% versus 44.1% last quarter and 38.8% in the year-ago quarter. Speaker 200:11:27The sequential decline primarily reflects inventory charges for aged inventory and higher duties and tariffs incurred in the quarter. Despite these temporary impacts, margins remain above the year-ago period, reflecting benefits from our ongoing cost and supply chain initiatives, as well as a favorable product mix. As we continue to carefully manage our inventories and the impact of tariffs, we expect gross margins to recover to the levels we achieved in the first half of fiscal 2025. We've made strong progress on our 90-day plan to further improve our cost structure and supply chain efficiency. As of today, the vast majority of U.S.-bound products are now manufactured outside of China, reducing costs and minimizing potential tariff exposure going forward. Speaker 200:12:17Turning to expenses and profitability, GAAP operating expenses in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2025 were $14.7 million, down from $16 million in the prior quarter and $18.2 million in the year-ago period. GAAP net loss for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2025 was $2.6 million or $0.07 per share, compared to GAAP net income of $400,000 or $0.01 per share in the year-ago quarter. GAAP results for both the fiscal fourth quarter and full year include restructuring charges of $900,000 and $3.5 million, respectively, related to the cost reduction initiatives we executed during the year. On a non-GAAP basis, we reported net income of just under $400,000 or $0.01 per share, compared to non-GAAP net income of $1.1 million or $0.03 per share in the prior quarter. Speaker 200:13:15Cost reductions that we have discussed in recent quarters continue to benefit our P&L, with non-GAAP operating expenses down by just under $200,000 from the prior quarter and approximately $1.9 million compared to the year-ago quarter. Importantly, the proactive steps we took have reduced just over $4 million of costs relative to fiscal 2024, and the implemented efficiency measures have created a leaner operating structure and meaningful leverage in our model. We streamlined our operations, optimized our supply chain, and reduced operating expenses while continuing to invest in strategic growth initiatives. These actions allowed us to maintain profitability on a non-GAAP basis despite the year-over-year revenue decline. Turning to the balance sheet, net inventories decreased to $26.4 million as of June 30, 2025, compared to $28.2 million in the prior quarter and $27.7 million at the end of fiscal 2024. Speaker 200:14:17We ended the June quarter with cash and cash equivalents of $20.1 million, up from the prior quarter. For the quarter, we generated positive operating cash flow, bringing our full year, fiscal 2025 operating cash flow to $7.3 million. During the year, we paid down approximately $4.5 million of term debt, or 28% of our outstanding balance. As of June 30, 2025, our remaining debt was approximately $11.8 million, resulting in a net cash position of $8.3 million, providing us with a stronger balance sheet entering fiscal 2026. We also recently refinanced this term debt into an asset-backed line of credit with the same lending partner. This refinancing reduces interest expense, provides greater flexibility on principal repayments, and extends the maturity to August 2028. Together with our debt reduction efforts, these actions strengthen liquidity and improve the efficiency of our capital structure. Speaker 200:15:19Now turning to our outlook for the first quarter of fiscal 2026, which ends September 30, 2025, we expect revenue to be in the range of $28.5 million to $30.5 million. Non-GAAP EPS is expected to be in the range of $0.02 to $0.04 per share. With that, I'll turn the call back to Saleel for closing remarks. Operator00:15:44Thanks, Brent. To close, fiscal 2025 was a year of transformation for Lantronix, one in which we built a strong foundation for profitable growth and positioned the company to capitalize on high-value opportunities in edge AI and infrastructure modernization. We reshaped our global operations, established four centers of excellence, streamlined our cost structure, and strengthened our balance sheet. We successfully integrated the NetComm IoT acquisition and deepened our strategic partnership with Qualcomm, expanding our capabilities in edge IoT and AI-driven innovation. On top of this, we proactively mitigated tariff exposure and realigned our supply chain, actions that reduce risk and support improved gross margin performance going forward. Collectively, these initiatives have focused our resources on the highest impact opportunities, embedded meaningful operating leverage into our model, and strategically repositioned Lantronix to scale with sustained profitability as we enter fiscal 2026. With that, we now open the call for your questions. Speaker 300:16:59Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your touch-tone phone. If you are using a speaker phone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star, then two. Your first question today will come from Jaeson Allen Min Schmidt with Lake Street. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:17:28Hey, guys, thanks for taking my questions. I just want to start with the drone opportunity. Obviously, a massive market, and you guys are seeing some really nice traction here out of the gate. How should we think about the potential for you guys here in the near term, both with Red Cat and what you potentially have in the pipeline? Operator00:17:49Jason, Saleel, thank you for that question. We are extremely excited about the drone market and the drone opportunity. Just to give you a frame of reference, we announced Red Cat about a week ago, but as of this quarter, we have over 10 different drone makers that we're working on, mainly military or industrial applications. We see this market growing really nicely into fiscal 2026, representing a meaningful portion of our business longer term. It's fueled by programs like the short-range reconnaissance program with Red Cat, and as more funding comes, we are well-suited there. I think the key is our competitive edge is our expertise in cameras. We've been working around cameras for a long time, and that's really what a drone requires. The camera tuning, the fusion, the software integration, and then us being North American-based, NDAA/TAA certified really allows us to win these contracts. Operator00:18:56We have shipped, as I said, last quarter, I mean, in the June quarter, we have visibility into fiscal 2026 with a few of the top 10 drone makers, and as we get into early 2026 calendar, we'll be seeing more of these companies going into production. We are feeling really good as I sit here today. Speaker 400:19:19Okay, that's really helpful. Just as a follow-up, if you could comment on sort of what you're seeing from a bookings or order perspective so far here in September. If I look back at the past few years, usually September is sequentially down, but obviously the midpoint of your guidance for September here is for growth sequentially. Just curious if you could provide some additional color around the dynamics driving that growth. Operator00:19:47Yeah, Jaeson, another great question. You're right, in the past, maybe last year, the year before, we were down sequentially. We are seeing momentum in our business. We are seeing new customers that we've acquired, and the momentum is really broad-based throughout our core business, including our edge IoT, which is some of it is new, and then even our networking business. Out-of-band also is growing nicely into this quarter. It builds a lot of confidence as you think about fiscal 2026. Speaker 400:20:21Perfect. Thanks a lot, guys. Operator00:20:23Thank you, Jaeson. Speaker 300:20:26Your next question today will come from Ryan Boyer Koontz with Needham & Company. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:20:32Great, thanks. You had some real interesting comments there on gross margin. I just want to make sure I'm not losing the forest through the trees here, so to speak. Can you maybe unpack that, Saleel, in terms of how you think about gross margins evolving over the next 12 months? Operator00:20:49Yeah, Ryan, great question. I know in the June quarter we had some one-off gross margin-related items like tariffs and some inventory. Moving forward, it's going to be closer to 44%, 45% for the fiscal year. I'll pass the mic to Brent to add a little bit more color to that. Speaker 200:21:11Yeah, I think Ryan, as we talked about in the prepared remarks, we're seeing gross margins for the upcoming quarters here in fiscal 2026, returning to what we saw a year ago. Saleel mentioned 44%. We're trending in that direction going forward. Speaker 500:21:31Great, super, thanks for that clarification. Maybe, you know, all these opportunities in the drone market around defense and unmanned vehicles, can you talk a little bit about, you know, is that a new channel for you? Are you working direct? Are you working through integrators? I mean, maybe walk through some of the commercial side of these drone opportunities. Are they very similar to your business of the past or is it somewhat new kind of market motion? Thanks. Operator00:21:59Yeah, Ryan, another great question. You and I have spoken before, we kind of started on this journey of unmanned UAS or drones, you know, in calendar 2024. Into that, we've kind of worked with Teledyne FLIR, which was a very important announcement that we did. They're the leader in thermal imaging cameras, which is what this market's all about. They gave us, hey, we are a great partner for them. That helped us. We worked with them on major designs, and just having this camera expertise, working with some of the integrators that are out there, we've increased our understanding of the market, what we can do for the market. That's how we've really gotten to winning somebody like Red Cat on one of their big programs. This one, we pretty much got done in eight months from beginning to end. Operator00:22:58It was really all systems go, all hands on deck to get them ready. We are very proud of what we've done there. Speaker 500:23:07That's great. Teledyne FLIR sounds like to some degree they're pulling you into some of these deals in a kind of a partner ecosystem? Operator00:23:13Yeah, Teledyne FLIR is pulling us into quite a few. You know, they're a big company with a lot of access. It's been very helpful. Speaker 500:23:20Yeah, that's great. Maybe one last one, if I can squeeze it in. You talked about this backup generator for cell site opportunities. Great to finally get that deal closed. Any more you can tell us about that? Are there other opportunities similar to that in the pipeline that you can address? Thank you. Operator00:23:42Yeah, thanks, Ryan. Another great question, right? We announced a big Tier 1 mobile win with about 50,000, you know, of our gateways, our FOX gateways in that. We anticipate longer term, this should be at least three times what it is as we progress over the next couple of years. The good news is we booked most of the order. We started to ship in the June quarter, which we did, and we'll continue to ship throughout this fiscal year. I do want to make one point of clarification, Ryan, which is, I think, very important. Not only are we selling hardware, but we are also incorporating our Perception platform, enabling remote monitoring and device management. As these devices come online, we are starting to get our first real ARR or annual recurring revenue. That's another great thing. Operator00:24:42That's going to start, and it's not starting at a big number, but as more and more devices come online, it's going to do that. It shows the investments that we were making in the last 18 months in these areas where giving a platform, giving a solution has enabled us to be successful. I'm optimistic just with this vendor, it could get bigger, and there are more that we're working on. Speaker 500:25:07Great. That's all I've got. Thanks so much, Saleel. Operator00:25:10Thank you, Ryan. Speaker 300:25:12Your next question today will come from Christian David Schwab with Craig Hallum Capital Group. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:25:20Great, thanks for taking my question. As it relates to the drone opportunity, can you give us an idea of what your average dollar content would be per device, not specifically to Red Cat itself, but the entire 10 customers you're dealing with, just to give us either an idea of what your dollar content is, please. Operator00:25:50Yeah, great, great question, Christian. It's approximately around $500. It's pretty very good from an ASP perspective. As you know, the volumes get into the many thousands or tens of thousands, this is meaningful revenue for the company as you think about moving forward. Speaker 500:26:11Great. In your prepared comments, you talked about a meaningful revenue opportunity. I assume some customers, of course, have different volumes that they would be planning on shipping over a multi-year timeframe. When you think of that market, could you give us a broad range of revenue? Is this a $5 million business in two years? Is this a $20 million business, some guideposts for us to be thinking about? Operator00:26:45Yeah, great question again, Christian. I would say the opportunity per customer, and again, some are going to be bigger, some are going to be smaller. The customer size could be $4 million to $5 million annualized, each customer. Again, as I said, the ones that we're working with today, if they're a bit smaller ones, they could be smaller. They're going to come online as they win their sockets. Could this be a 10% to 15% of Lantronix revenue in fiscal 2027? There's a probability it could get there. We're working through all that and working through all the customers. The opportunity size on some of the early ones are, you know, $3 million to $5 million each. Speaker 500:27:32Great. No other questions. Thank you, guys. Good quarter. Operator00:27:37Thank you. Speaker 300:27:39Your next question today will come from Scott Wallace Searle with Roth Capital. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:27:44Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. Looks like I'll back clean. Maybe just a quick clarification, Brent, on the inventory write-down. I'm wondering if you could quantify that. I'm not sure if I missed that. A couple of the segments there, I just want to clarify, what are you seeing in terms of out-of-band management in the June quarter and as we're going into the back half of the calendar year here? I just want to clarify in terms of the September guidance that there's no Grid Expertise in those numbers. I had a couple of follow-ups. Speaker 200:28:15Yeah, thanks, Scott. On the inventory, one way to maybe look at it is based on the margins that we disclosed here in the quarter. We said that tariffs were a part of that. Tariffs probably made up about 100 basis points of the decline in margin quarter over quarter, with a large part of the difference being some of the inventory charges that we took in the quarter. Can you repeat the second part of your question? Speaker 100:28:44Out-of-band management contribution in the quarter, what kind of growth were you seeing in June? What are you guys seeing in terms of the bulk in the bill of the business as we're looking into the second half? Speaker 200:28:55Yeah, out-of-band quarter over quarter, obviously we don't break out the details at that level. Out-of-band is what was up quarter over quarter from our third quarter, and we're seeing pretty solid momentum in that business with some of the resources and other things we have going on in that product line. You had asked about, what was the third part of your question? Speaker 100:29:19Yeah, just in terms of the expertise, in terms of the guidance. Speaker 200:29:22Yeah, we don't currently have any Grid Expertise estimates in our guidance. Operator00:29:28Scott, just to put it right, we've had no Grid Expertise since January 1, 2024. Right, we've taken it out. As I said, the core business is growing nicely. Speaker 100:29:40Great. No, just wanted to clarify. Now, Saleel, the drone opportunity really starting to perk up for you. It seems like there's an incredible backlog of opportunities. Is there a number that you're comfortable with in fiscal 2026? You talked about, you know, fiscal 2027 maybe being 10% to 15% of revenues. Kind of what do you think that looks like in fiscal 2026? When does it start to become meaningful in terms of contribution on a quarterly basis in fiscal 2026? Operator00:30:11You know, we don't specifically call out the details, but it's definitely going to be meaningful in this year, and it's in the millions of dollars for the fiscal year, Brian. It's not tens of millions this year, but it's in the millions of dollars. As I said, these guys are just starting to launch, and our ASP is pretty good at around $400. It's $500, approximately, give or take. We're feeling good about that. Does that kind of give you a goalpost for this year? Speaker 100:30:41Absolutely does, just trying to calibrate where we are in the ramp. Maybe, Saleel, to follow up on that front, I want to make sure I understand in terms of your software content versus what Teledyne FLIR brings to the equation. As you look at the characteristics of why you're being adopted in drones, being at low power, right? I think you're leveraging off of Qualcomm processors as well as your computer vision and AI capabilities. There are other markets related to security, surveillance, etc. that fit into that as well. I'm wondering if there are, I'll call them tethered opportunities as opposed to drones and UAS that are starting to perk up in your backlog or opportunity pipeline. Operator00:31:21Yeah, so a bunch of questions there, right? FLIR is a partner, but it's not for everyone. I want to be clear about that, right? FLIR is with some of the customers we're working with. The recent announced win we did does not use FLIR, so we had to provide some camera tuning, some of the software that we had, and they also had some software. It was a kind of a combination of both teams. As a matter of fact, we did some services work for them, so it was kind of getting together on this. FLIR is great. It's doing well for us, but we also are doing independent programs, Scott, on that. The other area that this is going to go into is robotics as you think about it, right? Because robotics needs cameras. Those are very on the early days. Operator00:32:02I think you'll see opportunities percolating, probably, you know, calendar Q1, calendar Q2 that we're looking at. Right now, we are laser-focused on the drone area. As you know, the U.S. government is making a big push. A Secretary of Defense Hegseth talked about two drones per platoon, the smaller ones. You hit the key point. We have worked with our customer to make sure that they have enough range. There's a whole, and you and I can talk offline of what the range means and how that needs to be. Right now, it's all hands on deck to get these guys, multiple guys over the hub. Speaker 100:32:42Gotcha. Lastly, if I could, I'll just slip one in on the carrier opportunity. There's a nice recurring revenue component that goes along with it. I'm not sure if you quantify that. I'd love to get your thoughts. In terms of RFP pipeline, it sounds like you think that could be 3x the size of where it is today. I'm just kind of wondering if those opportunities are currently percolating or, you know, with a formal RFP or if you guys are just continuing to knock on other doors. Thanks. Operator00:33:12Two questions. We do call out software and services, so the ARR will be a part of that. We also have a service portion of that, so it's going to be shown in that line as you think about the future. As for the carrier one, there is one RFP that we are bidding on. We believe we are at a good, high probability of getting that. This carrier company has now sent us to Generac and these other guys who make these backup power generators, and they've kind of told us we are the approved vendor for that. That also is in motion as you think about it. Therefore, we believe in the next few years, next couple of years, this should be a larger portion. As I said, could be as high as three times what we announced already. Speaker 100:34:09Perfect. Thanks so much. Operator00:34:11Thank you, Scott. Speaker 300:34:14This will conclude our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Saleel Awsare for any closing remarks. Operator00:34:22I want to thank everyone for joining us. I know it's Labor Day coming up, so please enjoy the weekend. Lantronix will be at the Gateway Conference next week in San Francisco. Hopefully, you can join us there. Thank you so much. Speaker 300:34:41The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K)Annual report(10-K) Lantronix Earnings HeadlinesBillionaires Are Dumping Nvidia and Buying This Unstoppable AI Stock Under $10 Hand Over FistMay 20, 2026 | 247wallst.comSafe Pro and Lantronix Advance Their Collaboration Delivering AI-Driven Edge Intelligence for Defense and Commercial Autonomous SystemsMay 20, 2026 | globenewswire.comHey, it's Jon Najarian. The SpaceX IPO is right around the corner. 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Its offerings are designed to help businesses convert legacy devices to networked assets, while providing robust encryption, authentication and compliance features for critical applications. The company’s flagship software platform, Mach10, delivers centralized device management and remote access capabilities via the cloud, allowing users to monitor device health, perform firmware updates, and troubleshoot equipment without the need for on-site intervention. Lantronix also supplies embedded modules and system-on-modules (SoMs) that integrate networking and security functions into OEM products, accelerating time-to-market for original equipment manufacturers. Lantronix serves customers globally through a network of channel partners and direct sales, with a presence in North America, Europe, and the Asia-Pacific region. 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There are 6 speakers on the call. Speaker 300:00:00Today, and welcome to the Lantronix Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2025 Results Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on a touch-tone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Brent Stringham, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:00:33Good afternoon, and thank you for joining our Fiscal Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2025 Earnings Call. Joining me today is our President and Chief Executive Officer, Saleel Awsare. A live and archived webcast of today's call will be available on the company's website. In addition, you can find the call-in details for the phone replay in today's earnings release. During this call, management may make forward-looking statements which involve risks and uncertainties that could cause our results to differ materially from management's current expectations. We encourage you to review the cautionary statements and risk factors contained in the earnings release, which was furnished to the SEC today and is available on our website, and in the company's SEC filings, such as its 10-K and 10-Qs. Lantronix undertakes no obligation to revise or update publicly any forward-looking statements to reflect future events or circumstances. Speaker 200:01:31Please refer to the news release and the financial information in the Investor Relations section of our website for additional details that will supplement management's commentary. Furthermore, during the call, the company will discuss non-GAAP financial measures. Today's earnings release, which is posted in the Investor Relations section of our website, describes the differences between our non-GAAP and GAAP reporting and presents reconciliations for the non-GAAP financial measures that we use. With that, I will now turn the call over to Saleel. Operator00:02:06Thanks, Brent, and thank you, everyone, for joining today's call. Fiscal 2025 marked a turning point for Lantronix, a year of disciplined execution, meaningful transformation, and building the foundation for sustainable long-term growth. The progress was evident in our fourth quarter results, with revenue of $28.8 million and a non-GAAP EPS of $0.01, both well within our quarterly guidance range. These results reflect a return to growth in our core revenue base, excluding the impact of Grid Expertise, our EMEA smart grid customer. As we enter the new fiscal year, we see powerful industry dynamics creating significant opportunities for Lantronix. We believe we are entering a multi-year growth cycle for unmanned aerial systems, supported by record defense funding and favorable regulatory momentum. According to the U.S. Department of Defense, more than $13 billion is earmarked for unmanned platforms in 2026. That increased focus on secure, U.S.-made technologies. Operator00:03:18We believe the demand environment for our solutions has never been stronger. Against this backdrop of growing demand, we are beginning to see meaningful traction in the market, highlighted by our most recent win with Red Cat's Teal drones, which we formally announced last week. We've been collaborating with their team for some time, and our TAA and NDAA compliance solution now powers Teal's Black Widow drones for the U.S. Army's short-range reconnaissance program. As a Blue-UAS-approved platform, this program highlights both the rigor of the qualification process and the mission-critical role of our technology. We began shipments in the June quarter, generating initial revenue and strengthening visibility into fiscal 2026. We believe our competitive edge lies in our deep camera expertise. Military and other high-performance drone requirements include advanced camera tuning, sensor fusion, and complex software integration, capabilities we have refined over many years. Operator00:04:32Equally important, being North America-based and fully compliant with NDAA and TAA regulations further positions us as a trusted supplier to OEMs and defense contractors engaged in U.S. government programs. Red Cat's Teal drones exemplify our secure edge compute solutions, driving long-term growth opportunities in the drone market. Beyond defense, our partnership with Aurora highlights our ability to deliver high-performance edge AI solutions for commercial drone applications. By combining our compute module with Teledyne FLIR's thermal camera and Prism AI software, we enable more intelligent, real-time decision-making for applications like autonomous flight, surveillance, and industrial inspection. Early market feedback has been very positive, and we expect revenue contribution from these solutions to begin in fiscal 2026. Looking ahead, we see broader industry trends, including government investment and rising demand for U.S.-based suppliers, creating a strong runway for both defense and commercial growth. Operator00:05:51Moving to our next win, we recently signed a multi-year agreement with a major U.S. mobile carrier to provide devices and services as they modernize over 50,000 backup power systems at wireless cell sites nationwide. This win is a strong validation of our edge infrastructure strategy, enabling resilient network uptime, improved lifecycle management, and real-time operational visibility across thousands of distributed locations. We booked nearly all the initial units and have begun shipping in the June quarter. With additional orders expected as the rollout continues, we believe this is a long-term opportunity with this customer and expect additional volume beyond this initial deployment, reflecting the depth of our relationship and the strategic nature of the program. In addition to the sizable hardware deployment, this design win also incorporates our perception platform, enabling remote monitoring and ongoing management of connected assets. Operator00:06:57As these devices are brought online, we expect they will contribute to our growing base of high-margin annual recurring revenue. This win also opens the door to broader collaboration with the carrier over time, including additional software-enabled services and potential expansion across their larger network footprint. These types of wins highlight our transition from a traditional hardware supplier to a strategic platform partner, helping customers accelerate intelligence at the edge. This evolution positions us to capture a larger share of customer wallets, deepen long-term relationships, and embed our solutions more directly in their critical operations. By moving up the value chain, we are not only expanding revenue opportunities but also creating stickier, high-margin business over time. Operator00:07:55Turning to our growth outlook, as we turn the corner into a new fiscal year, we are seeing growing momentum fueled by recent design wins that are expanding our customer base and enhancing the predictability of our business. This diversification marks an important step forward as we move past the impact of Grid Expertise and underscores the underlying strength of our core platform. Q1 is off to a strong start, with healthy engagement from both new and existing customers across multiple verticals. Our core business has stabilized and is now positioned to deliver growth over the longer term. At the same time, we are beginning to see encouraging traction in our edge AI strategy. Looking ahead, our visibility in fiscal 2026 has improved, supported by momentum across the two strategic pillars of our platform: edge IoT, spanning compute and connectivity, and network infrastructure, encompassing out-of-band management and networking solutions. Operator00:08:58The momentum is driven by recent design wins in edge IoT and out-of-band, continued investment in product innovation, and expanding relationships across our distribution and technology partner ecosystems. Together, these initiatives reinforce our ability to scale profitably and capture long-term opportunities at the intelligent edge. With that, I'll turn the call over to Brent to provide more detail on our financial performance. Brent? Speaker 200:09:29Thanks, Saleel. Building on that strategic context, I'll now walk through our fourth quarter and fiscal 2025 financial results, highlight the key drivers behind our performance, and provide our outlook for the first quarter of fiscal 2026. Looking back on fiscal 2025, we delivered revenue of $123 million, reflecting the transition from a record fiscal 2024 to a more normalized revenue base. As we've noted before, fiscal 2024 included a significant contribution from Grid Expertise, which accounted for roughly 25% of revenue that year. In fiscal 2025, we recognized just over $11 million from Grid Expertise in the first half, with minimal revenue contribution in the second half of the year as the customer continued to work through its prior deployments. Speaker 200:10:21Excluding this customer, our core revenue base stabilized in the second half of the year, and the operational discipline we've driven over the last 12 months positions us for more sustainable and diversified growth in fiscal 2026. In the fourth quarter of fiscal 2025, we delivered revenue of $28.8 million, a sequential increase from $28.5 million in the prior quarter, and approximately 4% higher than fiscal Q4 2024 when excluding the impact of Grid Expertise. This growth, driven by continued momentum in our edge IoT products, underscores the strength of our core platform and the benefits of a more diversified revenue base. Turning to margins, in the fourth quarter, GAAP gross margin was 40%, compared to 43.5% in the prior quarter and 38.1% in the year-ago period. On a non-GAAP basis, gross margin was 40.6% versus 44.1% last quarter and 38.8% in the year-ago quarter. Speaker 200:11:27The sequential decline primarily reflects inventory charges for aged inventory and higher duties and tariffs incurred in the quarter. Despite these temporary impacts, margins remain above the year-ago period, reflecting benefits from our ongoing cost and supply chain initiatives, as well as a favorable product mix. As we continue to carefully manage our inventories and the impact of tariffs, we expect gross margins to recover to the levels we achieved in the first half of fiscal 2025. We've made strong progress on our 90-day plan to further improve our cost structure and supply chain efficiency. As of today, the vast majority of U.S.-bound products are now manufactured outside of China, reducing costs and minimizing potential tariff exposure going forward. Speaker 200:12:17Turning to expenses and profitability, GAAP operating expenses in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2025 were $14.7 million, down from $16 million in the prior quarter and $18.2 million in the year-ago period. GAAP net loss for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2025 was $2.6 million or $0.07 per share, compared to GAAP net income of $400,000 or $0.01 per share in the year-ago quarter. GAAP results for both the fiscal fourth quarter and full year include restructuring charges of $900,000 and $3.5 million, respectively, related to the cost reduction initiatives we executed during the year. On a non-GAAP basis, we reported net income of just under $400,000 or $0.01 per share, compared to non-GAAP net income of $1.1 million or $0.03 per share in the prior quarter. Speaker 200:13:15Cost reductions that we have discussed in recent quarters continue to benefit our P&L, with non-GAAP operating expenses down by just under $200,000 from the prior quarter and approximately $1.9 million compared to the year-ago quarter. Importantly, the proactive steps we took have reduced just over $4 million of costs relative to fiscal 2024, and the implemented efficiency measures have created a leaner operating structure and meaningful leverage in our model. We streamlined our operations, optimized our supply chain, and reduced operating expenses while continuing to invest in strategic growth initiatives. These actions allowed us to maintain profitability on a non-GAAP basis despite the year-over-year revenue decline. Turning to the balance sheet, net inventories decreased to $26.4 million as of June 30, 2025, compared to $28.2 million in the prior quarter and $27.7 million at the end of fiscal 2024. Speaker 200:14:17We ended the June quarter with cash and cash equivalents of $20.1 million, up from the prior quarter. For the quarter, we generated positive operating cash flow, bringing our full year, fiscal 2025 operating cash flow to $7.3 million. During the year, we paid down approximately $4.5 million of term debt, or 28% of our outstanding balance. As of June 30, 2025, our remaining debt was approximately $11.8 million, resulting in a net cash position of $8.3 million, providing us with a stronger balance sheet entering fiscal 2026. We also recently refinanced this term debt into an asset-backed line of credit with the same lending partner. This refinancing reduces interest expense, provides greater flexibility on principal repayments, and extends the maturity to August 2028. Together with our debt reduction efforts, these actions strengthen liquidity and improve the efficiency of our capital structure. Speaker 200:15:19Now turning to our outlook for the first quarter of fiscal 2026, which ends September 30, 2025, we expect revenue to be in the range of $28.5 million to $30.5 million. Non-GAAP EPS is expected to be in the range of $0.02 to $0.04 per share. With that, I'll turn the call back to Saleel for closing remarks. Operator00:15:44Thanks, Brent. To close, fiscal 2025 was a year of transformation for Lantronix, one in which we built a strong foundation for profitable growth and positioned the company to capitalize on high-value opportunities in edge AI and infrastructure modernization. We reshaped our global operations, established four centers of excellence, streamlined our cost structure, and strengthened our balance sheet. We successfully integrated the NetComm IoT acquisition and deepened our strategic partnership with Qualcomm, expanding our capabilities in edge IoT and AI-driven innovation. On top of this, we proactively mitigated tariff exposure and realigned our supply chain, actions that reduce risk and support improved gross margin performance going forward. Collectively, these initiatives have focused our resources on the highest impact opportunities, embedded meaningful operating leverage into our model, and strategically repositioned Lantronix to scale with sustained profitability as we enter fiscal 2026. With that, we now open the call for your questions. Speaker 300:16:59Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your touch-tone phone. If you are using a speaker phone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star, then two. Your first question today will come from Jaeson Allen Min Schmidt with Lake Street. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:17:28Hey, guys, thanks for taking my questions. I just want to start with the drone opportunity. Obviously, a massive market, and you guys are seeing some really nice traction here out of the gate. How should we think about the potential for you guys here in the near term, both with Red Cat and what you potentially have in the pipeline? Operator00:17:49Jason, Saleel, thank you for that question. We are extremely excited about the drone market and the drone opportunity. Just to give you a frame of reference, we announced Red Cat about a week ago, but as of this quarter, we have over 10 different drone makers that we're working on, mainly military or industrial applications. We see this market growing really nicely into fiscal 2026, representing a meaningful portion of our business longer term. It's fueled by programs like the short-range reconnaissance program with Red Cat, and as more funding comes, we are well-suited there. I think the key is our competitive edge is our expertise in cameras. We've been working around cameras for a long time, and that's really what a drone requires. The camera tuning, the fusion, the software integration, and then us being North American-based, NDAA/TAA certified really allows us to win these contracts. Operator00:18:56We have shipped, as I said, last quarter, I mean, in the June quarter, we have visibility into fiscal 2026 with a few of the top 10 drone makers, and as we get into early 2026 calendar, we'll be seeing more of these companies going into production. We are feeling really good as I sit here today. Speaker 400:19:19Okay, that's really helpful. Just as a follow-up, if you could comment on sort of what you're seeing from a bookings or order perspective so far here in September. If I look back at the past few years, usually September is sequentially down, but obviously the midpoint of your guidance for September here is for growth sequentially. Just curious if you could provide some additional color around the dynamics driving that growth. Operator00:19:47Yeah, Jaeson, another great question. You're right, in the past, maybe last year, the year before, we were down sequentially. We are seeing momentum in our business. We are seeing new customers that we've acquired, and the momentum is really broad-based throughout our core business, including our edge IoT, which is some of it is new, and then even our networking business. Out-of-band also is growing nicely into this quarter. It builds a lot of confidence as you think about fiscal 2026. Speaker 400:20:21Perfect. Thanks a lot, guys. Operator00:20:23Thank you, Jaeson. Speaker 300:20:26Your next question today will come from Ryan Boyer Koontz with Needham & Company. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:20:32Great, thanks. You had some real interesting comments there on gross margin. I just want to make sure I'm not losing the forest through the trees here, so to speak. Can you maybe unpack that, Saleel, in terms of how you think about gross margins evolving over the next 12 months? Operator00:20:49Yeah, Ryan, great question. I know in the June quarter we had some one-off gross margin-related items like tariffs and some inventory. Moving forward, it's going to be closer to 44%, 45% for the fiscal year. I'll pass the mic to Brent to add a little bit more color to that. Speaker 200:21:11Yeah, I think Ryan, as we talked about in the prepared remarks, we're seeing gross margins for the upcoming quarters here in fiscal 2026, returning to what we saw a year ago. Saleel mentioned 44%. We're trending in that direction going forward. Speaker 500:21:31Great, super, thanks for that clarification. Maybe, you know, all these opportunities in the drone market around defense and unmanned vehicles, can you talk a little bit about, you know, is that a new channel for you? Are you working direct? Are you working through integrators? I mean, maybe walk through some of the commercial side of these drone opportunities. Are they very similar to your business of the past or is it somewhat new kind of market motion? Thanks. Operator00:21:59Yeah, Ryan, another great question. You and I have spoken before, we kind of started on this journey of unmanned UAS or drones, you know, in calendar 2024. Into that, we've kind of worked with Teledyne FLIR, which was a very important announcement that we did. They're the leader in thermal imaging cameras, which is what this market's all about. They gave us, hey, we are a great partner for them. That helped us. We worked with them on major designs, and just having this camera expertise, working with some of the integrators that are out there, we've increased our understanding of the market, what we can do for the market. That's how we've really gotten to winning somebody like Red Cat on one of their big programs. This one, we pretty much got done in eight months from beginning to end. Operator00:22:58It was really all systems go, all hands on deck to get them ready. We are very proud of what we've done there. Speaker 500:23:07That's great. Teledyne FLIR sounds like to some degree they're pulling you into some of these deals in a kind of a partner ecosystem? Operator00:23:13Yeah, Teledyne FLIR is pulling us into quite a few. You know, they're a big company with a lot of access. It's been very helpful. Speaker 500:23:20Yeah, that's great. Maybe one last one, if I can squeeze it in. You talked about this backup generator for cell site opportunities. Great to finally get that deal closed. Any more you can tell us about that? Are there other opportunities similar to that in the pipeline that you can address? Thank you. Operator00:23:42Yeah, thanks, Ryan. Another great question, right? We announced a big Tier 1 mobile win with about 50,000, you know, of our gateways, our FOX gateways in that. We anticipate longer term, this should be at least three times what it is as we progress over the next couple of years. The good news is we booked most of the order. We started to ship in the June quarter, which we did, and we'll continue to ship throughout this fiscal year. I do want to make one point of clarification, Ryan, which is, I think, very important. Not only are we selling hardware, but we are also incorporating our Perception platform, enabling remote monitoring and device management. As these devices come online, we are starting to get our first real ARR or annual recurring revenue. That's another great thing. Operator00:24:42That's going to start, and it's not starting at a big number, but as more and more devices come online, it's going to do that. It shows the investments that we were making in the last 18 months in these areas where giving a platform, giving a solution has enabled us to be successful. I'm optimistic just with this vendor, it could get bigger, and there are more that we're working on. Speaker 500:25:07Great. That's all I've got. Thanks so much, Saleel. Operator00:25:10Thank you, Ryan. Speaker 300:25:12Your next question today will come from Christian David Schwab with Craig Hallum Capital Group. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:25:20Great, thanks for taking my question. As it relates to the drone opportunity, can you give us an idea of what your average dollar content would be per device, not specifically to Red Cat itself, but the entire 10 customers you're dealing with, just to give us either an idea of what your dollar content is, please. Operator00:25:50Yeah, great, great question, Christian. It's approximately around $500. It's pretty very good from an ASP perspective. As you know, the volumes get into the many thousands or tens of thousands, this is meaningful revenue for the company as you think about moving forward. Speaker 500:26:11Great. In your prepared comments, you talked about a meaningful revenue opportunity. I assume some customers, of course, have different volumes that they would be planning on shipping over a multi-year timeframe. When you think of that market, could you give us a broad range of revenue? Is this a $5 million business in two years? Is this a $20 million business, some guideposts for us to be thinking about? Operator00:26:45Yeah, great question again, Christian. I would say the opportunity per customer, and again, some are going to be bigger, some are going to be smaller. The customer size could be $4 million to $5 million annualized, each customer. Again, as I said, the ones that we're working with today, if they're a bit smaller ones, they could be smaller. They're going to come online as they win their sockets. Could this be a 10% to 15% of Lantronix revenue in fiscal 2027? There's a probability it could get there. We're working through all that and working through all the customers. The opportunity size on some of the early ones are, you know, $3 million to $5 million each. Speaker 500:27:32Great. No other questions. Thank you, guys. Good quarter. Operator00:27:37Thank you. Speaker 300:27:39Your next question today will come from Scott Wallace Searle with Roth Capital. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:27:44Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. Looks like I'll back clean. Maybe just a quick clarification, Brent, on the inventory write-down. I'm wondering if you could quantify that. I'm not sure if I missed that. A couple of the segments there, I just want to clarify, what are you seeing in terms of out-of-band management in the June quarter and as we're going into the back half of the calendar year here? I just want to clarify in terms of the September guidance that there's no Grid Expertise in those numbers. I had a couple of follow-ups. Speaker 200:28:15Yeah, thanks, Scott. On the inventory, one way to maybe look at it is based on the margins that we disclosed here in the quarter. We said that tariffs were a part of that. Tariffs probably made up about 100 basis points of the decline in margin quarter over quarter, with a large part of the difference being some of the inventory charges that we took in the quarter. Can you repeat the second part of your question? Speaker 100:28:44Out-of-band management contribution in the quarter, what kind of growth were you seeing in June? What are you guys seeing in terms of the bulk in the bill of the business as we're looking into the second half? Speaker 200:28:55Yeah, out-of-band quarter over quarter, obviously we don't break out the details at that level. Out-of-band is what was up quarter over quarter from our third quarter, and we're seeing pretty solid momentum in that business with some of the resources and other things we have going on in that product line. You had asked about, what was the third part of your question? Speaker 100:29:19Yeah, just in terms of the expertise, in terms of the guidance. Speaker 200:29:22Yeah, we don't currently have any Grid Expertise estimates in our guidance. Operator00:29:28Scott, just to put it right, we've had no Grid Expertise since January 1, 2024. Right, we've taken it out. As I said, the core business is growing nicely. Speaker 100:29:40Great. No, just wanted to clarify. Now, Saleel, the drone opportunity really starting to perk up for you. It seems like there's an incredible backlog of opportunities. Is there a number that you're comfortable with in fiscal 2026? You talked about, you know, fiscal 2027 maybe being 10% to 15% of revenues. Kind of what do you think that looks like in fiscal 2026? When does it start to become meaningful in terms of contribution on a quarterly basis in fiscal 2026? Operator00:30:11You know, we don't specifically call out the details, but it's definitely going to be meaningful in this year, and it's in the millions of dollars for the fiscal year, Brian. It's not tens of millions this year, but it's in the millions of dollars. As I said, these guys are just starting to launch, and our ASP is pretty good at around $400. It's $500, approximately, give or take. We're feeling good about that. Does that kind of give you a goalpost for this year? Speaker 100:30:41Absolutely does, just trying to calibrate where we are in the ramp. Maybe, Saleel, to follow up on that front, I want to make sure I understand in terms of your software content versus what Teledyne FLIR brings to the equation. As you look at the characteristics of why you're being adopted in drones, being at low power, right? I think you're leveraging off of Qualcomm processors as well as your computer vision and AI capabilities. There are other markets related to security, surveillance, etc. that fit into that as well. I'm wondering if there are, I'll call them tethered opportunities as opposed to drones and UAS that are starting to perk up in your backlog or opportunity pipeline. Operator00:31:21Yeah, so a bunch of questions there, right? FLIR is a partner, but it's not for everyone. I want to be clear about that, right? FLIR is with some of the customers we're working with. The recent announced win we did does not use FLIR, so we had to provide some camera tuning, some of the software that we had, and they also had some software. It was a kind of a combination of both teams. As a matter of fact, we did some services work for them, so it was kind of getting together on this. FLIR is great. It's doing well for us, but we also are doing independent programs, Scott, on that. The other area that this is going to go into is robotics as you think about it, right? Because robotics needs cameras. Those are very on the early days. Operator00:32:02I think you'll see opportunities percolating, probably, you know, calendar Q1, calendar Q2 that we're looking at. Right now, we are laser-focused on the drone area. As you know, the U.S. government is making a big push. A Secretary of Defense Hegseth talked about two drones per platoon, the smaller ones. You hit the key point. We have worked with our customer to make sure that they have enough range. There's a whole, and you and I can talk offline of what the range means and how that needs to be. Right now, it's all hands on deck to get these guys, multiple guys over the hub. Speaker 100:32:42Gotcha. Lastly, if I could, I'll just slip one in on the carrier opportunity. There's a nice recurring revenue component that goes along with it. I'm not sure if you quantify that. I'd love to get your thoughts. In terms of RFP pipeline, it sounds like you think that could be 3x the size of where it is today. I'm just kind of wondering if those opportunities are currently percolating or, you know, with a formal RFP or if you guys are just continuing to knock on other doors. Thanks. Operator00:33:12Two questions. We do call out software and services, so the ARR will be a part of that. We also have a service portion of that, so it's going to be shown in that line as you think about the future. As for the carrier one, there is one RFP that we are bidding on. We believe we are at a good, high probability of getting that. This carrier company has now sent us to Generac and these other guys who make these backup power generators, and they've kind of told us we are the approved vendor for that. That also is in motion as you think about it. Therefore, we believe in the next few years, next couple of years, this should be a larger portion. As I said, could be as high as three times what we announced already. Speaker 100:34:09Perfect. Thanks so much. Operator00:34:11Thank you, Scott. Speaker 300:34:14This will conclude our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Saleel Awsare for any closing remarks. Operator00:34:22I want to thank everyone for joining us. I know it's Labor Day coming up, so please enjoy the weekend. Lantronix will be at the Gateway Conference next week in San Francisco. Hopefully, you can join us there. Thank you so much. Speaker 300:34:41The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by