Enviri Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Enviree launched a formal review of strategic alternatives to address a valuation gap, including possible sale or separation of its Clean Earth division.
  • Positive Sentiment: Clean Earth’s Q2 revenue and earnings grew in the single digits with margin expanding to 16.3% despite weather and disposal cost pressures, and its IT platform rollout remains on track.
  • Positive Sentiment: Harsco Environmental delivered $40 million of adjusted EBITDA in Q2 by managing costs amid soft steel volumes and benefiting from a weaker U.S. dollar.
  • Negative Sentiment: Enviree Rail saw orders drop over 30% y/y and reported a $3 million EBITDA loss, leading to a $15 million cut to the full-year EBITDA outlook.
  • Neutral Sentiment: Full-year adjusted EBITDA guidance is now $290 million–$310 million with free cash flow of $15 million–$35 million, and Q3 EBITDA is forecast at $76 million–$86 million.
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Earnings Conference Call
Enviri Q2 2025
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There are 4 speakers on the call.

Speaker 1

Good morning. My name is Danielle, and I will be your conference facilitator. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Enviri Corporation second quarter release conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to avoid any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer period. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star and the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. Today's conference is being recorded, and this telephone conference presentation and accompanying webcast made on behalf of Enviri are subject to copyright by Enviri Corporation, and all rights are reserved. No recordings or redistributions of this telephone conference by any other party are permitted without express written consent of Enviri. Your participation indicates your agreement.

Speaker 1

I would now like to turn the call over to Dave Martin of Enviri Corporation. Mr. Martin, you may begin your call.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Danielle, and welcome to everyone joining this morning. With me today is Nick Grasberger, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Tom Vadaketh, our Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. This morning, we will discuss our results for the second quarter and our outlook for the year. We will also discuss briefly our announcement this morning related to the evaluation of strategic alternatives. We'll then take your questions. We ask that you keep your questions focused on earnings, operations, and the outlook as there is limited additional information we can provide on strategic alternatives at this time. Before our presentation, let me mention a few items. First, our earnings release and slide presentation for this call are available on our website. Second, we will make statements today that are considered forward-looking within the meaning of the federal securities laws.

Speaker 2

These statements are based on our current knowledge and expectations and are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements. For a discussion of such risks and uncertainties, see the risk factors section in our most recent 10-K and 10-Q. The company undertakes no obligation to revise or update any forward-looking statement. Lastly, on this call, we will refer to adjusted financial results that are considered non-GAAP for SEC reporting purposes. A reconciliation to GAAP results is included in our earnings release today as well as the slide presentation. With that being said, I'll turn the floor to Nick.

Operator

Thank you, Dave, and good morning, everyone. Before we dive into our Q2 results, I would like to take a moment to discuss the announcement that we made this morning about our review of strategic alternatives. As you would expect, the board and our management team are continuously focused on evaluating options and taking actions that are in the best interests of Enviri and its shareholders. In this context, we continue to believe there is a significant and persistent gap between our market valuation and the sum-of-the-parts value of the company. Over the past several years, we've created a portfolio of valuable businesses focused on delivering compelling solutions to our customers. Clean Earth is an especially valuable business in an attractive and consolidating industry, while Harsco Environmental is a market leader with unmatched service capabilities and a strong earnings and cash flow profile.

Operator

We are also continuing to take actions to stabilize Harsco Rail, building on the improvements that we've made there. We're confident that executing our operating plan will continue to create value over time. With that said, we believe there may be alternatives to unlock this value sooner, and we think now is the right time to initiate a formal evaluation of our business portfolio and strategic options with the assistance of our advisors. This evaluation will consider a wide range of alternatives, including a tax-efficient sale or separation of the Clean Earth business, along with a continued execution of the company's business plan. This process will also consider, amongst other things, the capitalization needs for our businesses in the future. I am proud of what our teams have accomplished, and I'm excited about the opportunities this process may present for our company and its employees.

Operator

We expect that this evaluation will take some time given the complexity of our business. I also hope you appreciate that we do not intend to disclose further details or developments on the evaluation process until the company determines that disclosure is appropriate or required. Now, let me turn to our second quarter earnings, starting with our environmental segments, which performed quite well in the quarter despite some unique and short-term external challenges. Tom will cover our financial results in more detail shortly. Clean Earth's revenue and earnings grew single digits, and its margin reached 16.3%.

Operator

The Clean Earth team achieved these results despite weather-related pressures, a weaker business mix in soil and dredge, and a temporary rise in disposal costs. Clean Earth continues to perform remarkably well overall, and the team is executing against its priorities by investing in new service capabilities and building a strong business pipeline. Clean Earth's ongoing project to implement a common IT platform is also on track, with further productivity benefits anticipated next year from the completion of this project. Turning to Harsco Environmental, the business is managing well through persistent softness in the global steel market by managing its costs and flexing capital expenditures, among other actions, while maintaining industry-leading service levels. We have experienced a modest uptick in volumes in the U.S. of late due to added trade protections, but this benefit has been offset elsewhere.

Operator

Overall, volumes are flat, and more trade actions are needed, particularly in Europe, to deal with excess steelmaking capacity in China. With that said, recent U.S. dollar weakness is a positive, and we expect Harsco Environmental's results to improve considerably in the second half of the year, much of which will be driven by internal initiatives. New sites will benefit us more in the coming quarters, as will improvements at a few underperforming locations. Moving to Harsco Rail, demand for standard equipment and parts has slowed considerably since the end of Q1. Orders from U.S. customers, as well as those from China, have paused in recent months. Demand from key customers elsewhere, including in Canada and Mexico, is also very weak. We attribute this softness to economic and global trade uncertainty, with the related impacts appearing more pronounced in our niche segment of maintenance of way.

Operator

We expect these impacts to be temporary and are confident in our market position. We may benefit from the finalization of U.S. trade agreements, but we would not expect to accrue any related benefits until next year at this point. As a result, we have reduced our outlook for the year, and our Rail leadership team is increasingly focused on internal initiatives to help offset these impacts. Supply chain and factory improvements are ongoing, and we're focused on lowering Rail's overhead. The team also continues to advance and reduce our risk on the large ETO contracts. Last quarter, we announced an amendment to our Deutsche Bahn contract, and we are still engaged in discussions with Network Rail. Several other smaller ETO contracts have been completed, and the remainder will be finished next year.

Operator

As we've said in the past, the cash flow in our rail business will change materially over the next few years as these and the larger ETO contracts are completed. Overall, we expect continued economic uncertainty to result in weaker demand that will cause pressure for Enviri in the short term. As I mentioned, we've lowered our outlook for the year to reflect this. However, our environmental businesses continue to perform well, and we expect business performance to strengthen for each of our segments in the coming quarters. Looking further ahead, our optimism regarding the earnings and cash flow potential for our company is unchanged. The same is true with respect to the intrinsic value we see in our business. We look forward to progressing the evaluation of our strategic alternatives, and we'll update you on that process when appropriate. I will now turn the call over to Tom.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Nick, and good morning, everyone. In the second quarter, total revenue was $562 million and adjusted EBITDA was $65 million. As Nick mentioned, our environmental segments executed well and performed consistent with our expectations in the second quarter. Favorable cost performance and a weaker U.S. dollar in Harsco Environmental offset the impact of sluggish product and services volumes relative to our expectations earlier in the quarter. At Clean Earth, better pricing and volumes, as well as administrative cost controls, offset weather impacts and higher disposal costs resulting from outages at our primary service providers. Overall, our adjusted EBITDA was within guidance, albeit at the lower end, driven by the rail results. Rail performance was negatively impacted by volumes, with equipment, aftermarket, and technology sales coming in much lower than anticipated. We saw our customers adopting a very cautious view on maintenance-related spending.

Speaker 2

Rail's order activity has been unusually weak by any historical measure as a result. This demand weakness is most prominent in the U.S., where customers, including the Class 1s and others, now seem to be deferring maintenance and related capital spending due to economic uncertainty. We are also seeing limited to no demand out of Mexico, Canada, and China, likely as a result of global trade tensions. Given these trends in rail, we have lowered our guidance for the year. I'll come back to rail and our outlook in a bit when I'll comment on actions underway to mitigate rail's operating and market challenges. Now, let me turn to our second quarter performance details on slide four. In the first quarter, revenues totaled $562 million, which was down approximately 6% on an organic basis. Adjusted EBITDA was $65 million, with Clean Earth achieving record second-quarter profits in the quarter.

Speaker 2

Divestiture impacts were an unfavorable $3 million compared with the prior year, and FX impacts were not material. Our adjusted diluted loss per share was $0.22 for the quarter, excluding the impact of unusual items. These unusual items include $16 million in rail, mainly related to additional costs anticipated to complete our Network Rail and SBB contracts. The amount related to Network Rail assumes we continue with the contract. As Nick mentioned, our discussions with Network Rail are ongoing. In fact, we recently sent Network Rail a letter communicating our urgent need to bring these negotiations to closure and summarizing various options, including a substantial revision of the contract's economic terms or finding a mutually acceptable exit.

Speaker 2

The additional SBB costs are for manufacturing and commissioning expenses as we approach completion of deliveries of the first vehicle type and work towards the final phase of this contract to complete production and deliveries of the second vehicle type. The remaining unusual items in the quarter include project-related costs and an $8 million impact in Harsco Environmental, most of which relates to our decision to exit a downstream products business in France. Lastly, on this slide, our adjusted free cash flow for the quarter was a negative $14 million, which is in line with our expectations. Our cash flow performance is expected to improve in Q3 despite our semiannual interest payment on our bond, and free cash flow should further improve in Q4. Now, please turn to slide five and our Harsco Environmental segment. Segment revenues totaled $258 million, and adjusted EBITDA totaled $40 million.

Speaker 2

The year-over-year change in earnings is the result of divestitures and lower service levels resulting from site exits and closures, as well as lower product sales from our Excel operations. These impacts were partially offset by lower SG&A expenses and severance costs that were incurred in 2024 that were not repeated this year. Field production at our customer locations on a continuing site basis rose modestly compared with the prior year, with various puts and takes across our global and diverse footprint. The implementation of steel import tariffs in the U.S. has supported higher production at our customer locations domestically. However, this impact has been offset elsewhere, including in Canada, where output has declined. Overall, steel demand globally remains stable, although utilization rates remain well below optimal levels. Next, please turn to slide six to discuss Clean Earth.

Speaker 2

For the quarter, revenues totaled $246 million, which was up 4% compared with the 2024 quarter, and adjusted EBITDA reached $25 million, up 5%. Revenue growth was slightly more weighted to price over volume. Clean Earth's earnings growth is attributable to the increase in revenue as well as cost efficiencies, partially offset by higher transportation and disposal expenses. As mentioned earlier, transportation and disposal costs were higher as we utilized alternative and more costly disposal options, given that our primary outlets were not available for a period of time. This situation has improved in early Q3. Each of our industry segments' verticals within hazardous waste saw solid growth in the quarter, while soil dredge volumes and earnings were lower as anticipated.

Speaker 2

The lower contribution from soil dredge relates to seasonal weakness due to dredging restrictions in the Northeast and some higher margin projects in 2024 that are not repeating this past quarter. Now, please turn to slide seven in our rail business. Rail revenues totaled $58 million, and its adjusted EBITDA loss was $3 million in the second quarter. The year-over-year EBITDA change is the result of lower volumes and a less favorable product mix, as well as higher manufacturing costs due to inefficiencies and inflation. We've discussed our manufacturing challenges previously, and these continue. Supply chain and manufacturing improvements are underway. These initiatives take time, however, and the related benefits are taking longer than we originally expected. Rail is now also dealing with a weak demand environment, as mentioned earlier. Q2 standard equipment bookings were anemic, and our year-to-date orders are now down more than 30%.

Speaker 2

Rail's backlog has contracted as a result. We're taking actions to right-size the rail organization in line with the lower demand. The team is currently working on restructuring plans to support the lower demand outlook, with these actions starting in late Q3 and fully implemented in Q1 of next year. Finally, on the ETOs, we've already mentioned Network Rail. We're making good progress on our smaller contracts, as well as the SBB and Deutsche Bahn contracts. We expect to complete most of our smaller contracts, which total roughly 10 this year. The remaining two should conclude in 2026. On SBB, where we are delivering two vehicle types, we expect to have completed deliveries of the first vehicle type by the end of this year. On the second vehicle type, we will be testing the equipment later this quarter and expect to complete deliveries by the end of next year.

Speaker 2

On Deutsche Bahn, which is a contract to deliver 23 vehicles, we're encouraged by our internal testing results on the first unit. The first three vehicles will commence the formal acceptance process in Germany by the end of this year, after which they can be accepted by the customer. Production on the remaining 20 vehicles is on track to be completed and delivered by the end of 2027. We continue to expect that our existing ETO contracts will consume roughly $50 million of cash this year, an improvement from the $80 million outflow in 2024. Next year, we expect similar cash impacts before these contracts turn positive in subsequent years. Importantly, we continue to expect that project cash flows on these ETO contracts will be neutral on a go-forward basis. Now, let me turn to our full-year outlook on slide eight.

Speaker 2

The midpoint of EBITDA and free cash flow guidance is reduced by $15 million, driven by rail. Our EBITDA range is now $290 to $310 million, and our free cash flow range is now $15 million to $35 million. Let me conclude on slide nine with our third quarter guidance. Q3 adjusted EBITDA is expected to range from $76 million to $86 million. Each of our segments is anticipated to see sequential improvement in earnings. Compared with the prior year quarter, Harsco Environmental results are expected to be lower as a result of divestitures and site exits, while results for Clean Earth and rail should be higher due to volumes and/or price. Thanks, and I'll now hand the call back to the operator for Q&A.

Speaker 1

We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we'll pause momentarily to assemble the roster. The first question comes from Larry Solow from CJS Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Hi, good morning. I'm just curious on the reduced outlook revised guidance. Is it driven entirely by rail? I missed a little bit of the call. I was actually juggling a couple here. It does sound like some of the trends that are in Clean Earth Environmental may be just temporarily a little bit below our expectations, certainly in the quarter. I'm just curious, is that $15 million entirely rail and the others just kind of rounding errors? The related question, just kind of housekeeping, does the currency impact the weaker dollar? Is that a benefit for you? Has that been a little bit of an added benefit as the years progress?

Speaker 2

Yeah. Hi, Larry. It's Tom Vadaketh. Good morning.

Speaker 2

Hi, Tom.

Speaker 2

Yeah, the reduction in outlook for the year, both on EBITDA and free cash flow, is entirely due to the reduction in rail and stemming from some of the demand issues and market issues that we've covered in the call.

Speaker 2

Sure.

Speaker 2

On FX, as you know, we went into the year expecting a $9 million or $10 million impact. There has been some clawback. The dollar has weakened during the year, and at this point, we still see a slight negative year-on-year, but not as large as we thought at the beginning.

Speaker 2

Okay. On Clean Earth particularly, it sounds like things are going well there. Just curious, just qualitatively, the impact of tariffs, have you seen anything? Some of your customers, obviously, are in a global world impacted. Have you seen any direct impact or anything that would give you a pause on that or from the economy or anything on that? The follow-up on Clean Earth is, and I think you might have discussed it, but the margins were flat-ish year-over-year and sequentially or down a little bit even in the quarter. Was there any particular reason behind that? I think you discussed something there, so maybe I missed that. Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yeah. Hi, Larry. It's Nick. On your first question about the tariffs, no, we've not seen any direct impact.

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker 2

In fact, the volume trends in our so-called manufacturing and industrial segment of our hazardous waste business, which is the largest segment, have been quite good.

Speaker 2

Okay.

Speaker 2

Not only revenue, but orders and our pipeline. We're really encouraged by the performance of that segment within our hazardous waste business. There are really no impacts to speak of from tariffs on Clean Earth. I would say on the margin, it was a little softer than we expected, primarily due to some unplanned maintenance-related outages at some disposal facilities.

Speaker 2

Okay.

Speaker 2

We had to move the waste further distances to dispose of it, and also, in a few cases, pay some higher rates than kind of our standard solution. That's behind us. It's not continuing. It actually was behind us later in the second quarter. Very much a temporary impact.

Speaker 2

Okay. You also mentioned a mix too, I guess.

Speaker 2

Larry, I'll supplement.

Speaker 2

Yep, please.

Speaker 2

Larry, sorry, one second. I'll just supplement. In the quarter for Clean Earth, margins are slightly up year-on-year. As Nick said, sequentially going into Q3 and Q4, we would expect margins to climb versus the first half performance. Larry, the other impact that I think we mentioned in terms of margin was the mix with our soil and dredge business. As you may know, the margins in that business generally are a few points higher than they are in our hazardous waste business. That segment was a bit weaker in terms of volume than we expected. I think you also know that tends to be a function of project starts, which can be difficult to predict and a bit lumpy.

Speaker 2

Sure. Sure.

Speaker 2

It is really not a demand issue. It is more of a short-term issue.

Speaker 2

The orders and the backlog in that, I think, had done well, at least in 2024, right? That business, hopefully, it's just a timing thing.

Speaker 2

Exactly.

Speaker 2

Okay. Okay.

Speaker 2

The outlook is good for that business, yes.

Speaker 2

Great. Thanks. I appreciate it.

Speaker 2

Larry, you had another question. Yeah.

Speaker 2

No, I think I'm all set. You discussed it. All set. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Larry.

Speaker 1

The next question comes from Rob Brown from Lake Street Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Hi, good morning.

Speaker 2

Hi.

Speaker 2

On the environmental business, I think you talked a little bit about an expectation of some improvement in margins and results in the back half. Could you just clarify sort of what's driving that at this point?

Speaker 2

In HE?

Speaker 2

Correct.

Speaker 2

Did you say in Harsco Environmental?

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 2

We have some new sites ramping up, and that will help. We have some cost reduction initiatives, which we'll have a full six months of in the second half of the year. That's certainly going to help. We talk about a handful of sites that we have a lot of focus on improving their performance, and some of those benefits should also help us in the second half of the year.

Speaker 2

Okay, great. I know there's a lot of cross-currents on rail right now, but I guess historically, when you have these down cycles in rail, you know how long do they last? What's sort of the kind of a down cycle, or is there such a thing as a typical down cycle, and maybe a sense of how long these cycles last in the rail business?

Speaker 2

In this case, we expect it to be shorter-lived because, as you know, we're not in a recession. There's a lot of uncertainty. Of course, other big things are happening amongst our customers in the Class 1 railroads in the U.S. This does happen from time to time where they just cut back spending. There are many data points that we have access to across customers and competitors that make it clear that this is an industry issue. It's not a Harsco Rail issue. We do expect it to be short-lived, and we don't see this persisting into 2026 at the moment.

Speaker 2

Okay, great. Thank you. I'll turn it over.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Speaker 1

As a reminder, if you have a question, please press star one. The next question comes from Devin Dodge from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Yeah, thanks. Good morning. I was going to maybe take a stab at asking a question around that other announcement this morning. Just wondering if you could provide, you know, just a bit of background on the strategic review and what prompted the board to consider its options now. I'm just trying to get a sense if there had been some inbound interest or, you know, if it was prompted by new challenges in the business and that a turnaround in financial performance may be pushing out a bit.

Speaker 2

I would say we've done a lot of work. The discount to our sum-of-the-parts value continues to persist, and I think we have a bit more confidence in the potential outcome of a few of these options. We're digging deeper into them, and we've hired advisors. The distinction here is it's a bit more formal of a process. Beyond that, we really can't comment.

Speaker 2

Okay.

Speaker 2

We have done a lot of work on a number of different options.

Speaker 2

Okay. Fair enough. Had to ask there. Second question. Look, I apologize. I may have missed it during the remarks, but I believe there was a pretty meaningful step up in forward loss provisions at Harsco Rail. Just can you provide a bit more color behind the drivers behind those charges?

Speaker 2

Yeah. Both the charges relate to Network Rail. That was the largest chunk, and then also a smaller chunk for SBB. In total, about $15 million or so. Ten of that is Network Rail. It's really a revision in our estimated cost to complete that contract. It's a normal quarterly process, Devin. As we look out to the end of this period when we are going to complete all the vehicles in this, about 11 that we need to deliver to the customer, that's just an update in our cost estimates at this point. There's nothing more unusual than that. As we remarked, and I think in my prepared remarks, we separately have a negotiation ongoing with Network Rail that could end up in different outcomes. There could be an improvement in contract terms and the economic terms, similar to what you saw with Deutsche Bahn earlier this year.

Speaker 2

We hope that's an outcome, or we're also potentially talking to the customer about just exiting the contract on a mutually acceptable basis. This adjustment that we recorded in Q2 just assumes that things proceed as they are currently without either of those two potential changes coming in. In SBB, this project is reaching the end, happily. The major part of the contract, which is to deliver about 50 vehicles, we expect to be done with that by the end of this year, the end of 2025. The second vehicle type, we expect to be done by the end of 2026, next year. This was, you know, I would say more, again, similar concept to what I explained on Network Rail.

Speaker 2

It's a regular and quarterly process where we're continually reviewing what it's going to take to complete the vehicles as we get closer, as the designs get locked down, as we have more certainty around input costs and so forth. It's a sort of a natural outcome of that process. That was about $4 or $5 million.

Speaker 2

Okay. Good color. Appreciate that. Just one last one. I think there's been a new leader in Rail now for a little while. Just wondering if you could kind of highlight, you know, clearly there's some maybe near-term demand headwinds, but just if you could highlight, you know, focus areas and maybe some early wins from the new leader coming in.

Speaker 2

Yeah. He has a rail industry background. He's very operationally oriented, and that's much of his background. His focus, of course, early on has been operations and supply chain and the logistics with our outsourced warehouse that feeds the Columbia plant. We have seen some better metrics over the past couple of weeks in terms of that warehouse filling the needs of the Columbia, South Carolina factory. We are quite encouraged by the team. We have a new finance leader in that business as well. Our operations leader has been with us for about a year. We feel quite confident that this team has the requisite background and skill set to resolve our operational issues.

Speaker 2

Okay. Excellent. Thanks for that. I'll turn it over.

Speaker 1

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Dave Martin for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Danielle, and thank you to everyone that joined us this morning. Please feel free to contact me with any follow-up questions. As always, we appreciate your interest in Enviri and look forward to speaking with many of you in the near future. Thank you.

Speaker 1

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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