Royal Gold Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Our second quarter delivered record revenue of $210 million, net income of $132 million ($2.10/share), an 84% adjusted EBITDA margin, while ending debt-free and declaring a $0.45/share dividend.
  • Positive Sentiment: We announced transformative acquisitions of Sandstorm Gold and Horizon Copper, expected to close in Q4, which will boost scale, growth and sector-leading diversification.
  • Negative Sentiment: Operator Centerra reported lower gold grades at Mount Milligan and cut 2025 gold production guidance to 145k–165k oz, posing a headwind despite our maintained sales guidance.
  • Positive Sentiment: We closed a new gold stream on the Kansanshi mine in Zambia, targeting ~12,500 oz of gold deliveries this year, alongside streams on Ecuador’s Wurinza and Lawyers Ranch projects.
  • Neutral Sentiment: The balance sheet remains strong with a fully undrawn $1.4 billion revolver (now $575 million available post-draw), debt-free status at quarter end and funding drawn for recent acquisitions.
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Earnings Conference Call
Royal Gold Q2 2025
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There are 6 speakers on the call.

Speaker 4

Hello all, and thank you for joining us on today's Royal Gold 2025 second quarter conference call. My name is Drew, and I'll be the operator today. During today's call, after the prepared remarks, there will be a Q&A session. If you would like to ask a question on today's call, please press *1 on your telephone keypad, and to withdraw your question, it's *2. With that, it's my pleasure to hand over to Alistair Baker, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development. To begin, please go ahead when you're ready.

Operator

Thank you, operator. Good morning and welcome to our discussion of Royal Gold's second quarter 2025 results. This event is being webcast live, and a replay of this call will be available on our website. Speaking on the call today are Bill Heissenbuttel, President and CEO, Paul Libner, Senior Vice President and CFO, and Martin Raffield, Senior Vice President of Operations. Other members of the management team are also available for questions. During today's call, we will make forward-looking statements, including statements about our projections and expectations for the future. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from these statements. These risks and uncertainties are discussed in yesterday's press release and our filings with the SEC. We will also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted net income, adjusted net income per share, adjusted EBITDA, and cash G&A.

Operator

Reconciliations of these measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are available in yesterday's press release, which can be found on our website. Bill will start with an overview of the quarter and recent events. Martin will give some commentary on the portfolio, and Paul will provide a financial update. After the formal remarks, we'll open the lines for a Q&A session. I will now throw the call over to Bill.

Speaker 3

Good morning, and thank you for joining the call. I'll begin on slide five. Our second quarter was another excellent quarter for Royal Gold, with new records for revenue, earnings, and cash flow. Earnings for the quarter were $132 million, or $2.01 per share. We recognize a couple of discrete tax items that Paul will describe in more detail, and after adjusting for these items, earnings were a strong $119 million, or $1.81 per share. Gold remained the largest contributor to revenue for the quarter at about 78% of total, and the strong gold price, combined with our low and stable cash G&A, increased our adjusted EBITDA margin to 84% for the quarter. We were debt-free at the end of the quarter, and we paid our quarterly dividend at $0.45 per share.

Speaker 3

We also achieved a full offset of the Pueblo Viejo advanced stream deposit during the quarter, despite the recent silver recovery shortfalls. We made our investment at Pueblo Viejo in 2015, and we expect to see further revenue into the mid-2040s as Barrick continues to work on an extension to the mine life. On the strategic front, we have taken steps to position Royal Gold as a premier growth company with the Sandstorm Gold and Horizon Copper acquisition. These transactions will significantly add to our scale, growth, and diversification, and the portfolios are uniquely complementary when you consider how our producing-heavy portfolio fits with the development-heavy Sandstorm and Horizon portfolios. We also think there will be additional benefits, including sector-leading asset diversification, with no asset accounting for more than about 12% of net asset value, simplification of the Sandstorm and Horizon relationship, and elimination of a complex intercompany structure.

Speaker 3

Additional appeal to investors is a larger and more diversified company, with the potential for increased investment from passive funds and stronger cash flows from the combined portfolios, which should allow us to continue our record of increasing the dividend, quickly repaying borrowings, and continuing to compete for the best opportunities in our sector. It is important to note that these transactions do not shift our strategic focus. We remain focused on growth in precious metals, maintaining a strong balance sheet and liquidity, and increasing our dividend. While we have been working on these transactions, we have also continued to add assets to the portfolio that meet our criteria for upside in precious metals, and we have completed three recent transactions. Earlier this week, we acquired a gold stream on the world-class Constancia mine operated by First Quantum in Zambia.

Speaker 3

The economic effective date is August 5, and we expect gold deliveries of approximately 12,500 ounces this year. This is a mine with a 20-year production history and the potential to operate for a further 20+ years, and it will be a cornerstone asset in our portfolio. This asset acquisition further enhances our portfolio diversification, and as I mentioned, no single asset will contribute more than 12% of net asset value on a pro forma basis with the Sandstorm Gold and Horizon Copper transaction. In May, we acquired a stream and royalty interest on the Warintza project in Ecuador. This is a large-scale copper-gold moly project that has world-class potential when it starts production in the early 2030s. Finally, we acquired a royalty on the Lawyers Ranch development project in British Columbia.

Speaker 3

This transaction adds to our royalty exposure in an emerging gold camp and is an example of how we can identify early-stage but high-potential opportunities. Finally, I would like to welcome Mark Isto to our Board of Directors. Mark's institutional knowledge with Royal Gold and broad technical background and experience are a welcome addition to the Board, and I look forward to benefiting from his guidance for many years to come. I'll now turn the call over to Martin.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Bill. Turning to slide six, I'll give some comments on second quarter revenue. Overall revenue was a record $210 million, with a volume of 63,900 GEOs. Royalty revenue was up by about 50% from the prior year quarter to $77 million. We saw another strong quarter from Peñasquito and Mount Milligan, with additional strong contributions from Bellevue and Wharf. Revenue from our stream segment was $133 million, up by about 8% from last year, with increased sales from Mount Milligan, Pueblo Viejo, and Andacollo, partially offset by lower sales from Zaventeno, Wassa, and Rainy River. I'll turn to slide seven and give some comments on notable developments within the portfolio. At Mount Milligan, Centerra reported yesterday that they had encountered lower-than-expected gold grades from areas they were mining in the second quarter.

Speaker 1

They've started an infill and grade control program to address this issue and reduce their 2025 gold production guidance to 145,000 to 165,000 ounces. There is no change to the previous copper production guidance of 50 to 60 million pounds. Centerra expects production of both metals to be weighted towards the second half of the year. Centerra also reported that the prefeasibility study for the Mine Life Extension project remains on track for completion in the third quarter. We expect this will be a positive catalyst for Royal Gold and look forward to seeing the results. At Andacollo, Teck reported that the SAG mill successfully restarted in late June, and production has now resumed to full rates after a mechanical issue caused a maintenance shutdown of the SAG mill in early June.

Speaker 1

Teck also reported that 2025 copper production guidance is unchanged from the previous range of 45,000 to 55,000 tons. Teck does not provide gold production guidance, but we expect the gold deliveries in the fourth quarter of this year will be lower due to the month-long shutdown. Given the normal course delay between production and sales, we do not expect this shutdown to impact our 2025 sales. Teck also reported that both unions at Andacollo had ratified three-year labor contracts in June and July. At Pueblo Viejo, we achieved the full offset of the stream advance payment. We acquired our interest in mid-2015, and we are looking forward to further contributions through the mid-2040s as Barrick advances the Mine Life Extension project. We also had some updates for a handful of our smaller assets.

Speaker 1

At Back River, B2Gold announced the first gold pour on June 30th, and they expect to ramp up to commercial production in the third quarter. At Kote, Iamgold reported in June that the processing plant operated at nameplate capacity on average for over 30 consecutive days. At Mara Rosa, Hochschild reported that mining activity is continuing, but operation of the processing plant was temporarily suspended in June after heavier than usual rainfall, as well as contracted performance issues. At Rainy River, New Gold reported record monthly production in June. Production is expected to continue to increase in the third quarter, and the 2025 guidance range of 265,000 to 295,000 ounces is unchanged. At Zaventeno, Euro Sun revised gold production guidance down to 50,000 to 60,000 ounces for 2025 due to temporary impacts from the transition to mechanized mining.

Speaker 1

Euro Sun expects this transition to drive higher production with a step change in mining rates in the second half of 2025. Additionally, stream deliveries from Zaventeno reached the 49,000-ounce threshold in July, and our cash payment per ounce increased from 25% to 40% of the spot price. Finally, at Cactus, Arizona Sonoran announced it will buy back 0.5% of our 2.5% NSR royalties for $7 million. The buyback was expected and was factored in for our initial valuation when the royalty was acquired in late 2024. I'll now turn the call over to Paul.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Martin. I will turn to slide eight and give an overview of the financial results for the quarter. For this discussion, I'll be comparing the quarter ended June 30, 2025, to the prior year quarter. Revenue for the quarter was up strongly by 20% to $210 million, which was another record for the company. Metal prices were a primary driver for the revenue increase, with gold up 40%, silver up 17%, and copper down slightly by 2% over the prior year. Gold remains our dominant revenue driver, making up 78% of our total revenue for the quarter, followed by silver at 11% and copper at 7%. Royal Gold has the highest gold revenue percentage when compared to our major peers in the royalty and streaming sector. Turning to slide nine, I'll provide a bit more detail on certain financial line items for the quarter.

Speaker 2

G&A expense was $10.3 million and was in line with the prior year. Excluding non-cash stock compensation expense, our cash G&A was less than 4% for the quarter. Our DD&A expense decreased to $31 million from $36 million in the prior year. The lower overall depletion expense was primarily due to lower depletion rates in our stream segments, as well as lower gold sales from Zaventeno during the quarter. These decreases were partially offset by higher production at Voisey's Bay and Minto compared to the prior year. On a unit basis, this expense was $487 per GEO for the quarter, compared to $480 per GEO in the prior year. Tax expense for the quarter was $10.5 million compared to $19 million in the prior year. The lower income tax expense in the current period included two discrete tax benefits.

Speaker 2

First, a $9 million benefit related to a withholding tax refund on a foreign royalty, and second, a $4 million benefit for the release of a valuation allowance. Excluding all discrete tax benefits, our effective tax rate for the quarter was 17.9%. Net income for the quarter increased significantly over the prior year to a record $132.3 million, or $2.01 per share. The increase in net income was primarily due to higher revenue and lower tax expense. After adjusting for the discrete tax benefits I just mentioned, adjusted net income was a record $118.8 million, or $1.81 per share. Our operating cash flow this quarter was also a record at $153 million, up significantly from $114 million in the prior period.

Speaker 2

The increase was primarily due to higher net cash proceeds received from our stream and royalty interest, lower income tax expense, and lower interest expense on our debt when compared to the prior year period. Finally, we are maintaining our 2025 guidance ranges for metal sales, DD&A, and tax rate. I will end on slide 10 and provide a brief summary of our financial position as of June 30, 2025. We remained debt-free at the end of the quarter, and our total liquidity grew to just over $1.25 billion, which includes the fully undrawn and available $1 billion revolving credit facility and nearly $270 million of working capital. Our recent business development successes have prompted us to make use of our available liquidity to finance recent acquisitions.

Speaker 2

As we detailed on Tuesday with the Constancia transaction, we amended our revolver in late June and extended the maturity by two years to 2030 and increased the accordion feature from $250 million to $400 million. We recently exercised the accordion feature and now have a total committed revolver capacity of $1.4 billion. We view our credit facility as a key strategic financing tool, and I would like to again thank each banking partner within our syndication for the continued and growing support. Also, as we detailed on Tuesday's Constancia transaction call, we drew $825 million on the revolver and used $175 million of our available cash to fund the acquisition. The current all-in borrowing rate on the recent draw is approximately 5.5%. Upon this draw and the exercise of the accordion feature, we now have $575 million available under our credit facility.

Speaker 2

As part of the Warintza acquisition in May, $100 million of funding remains outstanding. We expect to fund the remaining commitment in two $50 million tranches, with the first tranche expected in the third quarter of 2025 and the second in May of 2026. With respect to the Sandstorm Gold and Horizon Copper transaction, we expect a further draw on the credit facility upon closing, which should occur in the fourth quarter. Finally, we anticipate receiving the first delivery of deferred gold consideration from the Mount Milligan cost support agreement in the latter part of the third quarter or earlier in the fourth quarter. As a reminder, as partial consideration for this agreement, Centerra will deliver 50,000 gold ounces in the future. The first deliveries will be in tranches of 11,111 ounces each and relate to production thresholds reached at Equinox Gold's Greenstone mine.

Speaker 2

The first of those thresholds should occur during the third quarter, and we expect to receive this delivery within 60 days of the threshold being reached. To remind you of the accounting, when we receive the deferred gold ounces, the Mount Milligan deferred support liability on our balance sheet will increase by the fair market value of the gold on the date the deferred gold is received. We expect to sell the deferred gold ounces within a few days or a week after they are received. If the price we sell the gold at is higher or lower than the fair market value when we receive the gold, the mark-to-market difference will go through our earnings. Understanding there are some accounting-related complexities for the deferred gold ounces we will receive and sell, I will provide another explanation of the accounting treatment at our next quarterly call.

Speaker 2

You should also remember that these deferred gold ounces are not included in our 2025 sales guidance, and the sales will not be reflected in our calculation of GEOs. That concludes my comments on our financial performance for the quarter, and I'll now turn the call back to Bill for closing comments.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Paul. I want to finish with a brief update on the Sandstorm Gold and Horizon Copper transaction. Since the announcement on July 7th, we have had constructive engagement with many investors and shareholders, and we believe there is widespread support for the transactions. Investors appreciate the logic of combining complementary portfolios to create a larger portfolio with growth, diversification, and scale. We believe that Royal Gold will have the size to attract more generalist investors who like the reduced single asset risk. We are feeling confident in our ability to close on the timeline we put forward. We have received approval under the Canadian Competition Act, and reviews under the Investment Canada Act and South Africa Competition Act are underway.

Speaker 3

We expect to file the preliminary proxy with the SEC shortly, and we remain confident that the required approvals will be obtained in order to close in the fourth quarter. Operator, that concludes our prepared remarks. I'll now open the line for questions.

Speaker 4

Thank you. We'll now start today's Q&A session. If you would like to ask a question today, please press *1 on your telephone keypad, and to withdraw your question, it's *2. Our first question today comes from Farhad Tariq from Jefferies. Your line's now open. Please go ahead with your question.

Operator

Hi, thanks for taking my question. Could you maybe talk through the deleveraging goal pro forma after these transactions are complete? I think the revolver will be somewhere around $1.2 billion. Maybe just talk through how you're thinking about deleveraging going forward. Thanks.

Speaker 3

Yeah, thanks for the question. I think if you followed our history, you've seen us take advances under the revolving credit and then pay that off over time. That would still be the plan. I think Paul mentioned that if we didn't do anything on the business development front, we would expect it to take a couple of years. We have to balance that with other investment opportunities that might come up. The plan, as it always is, is to take excess cash flow each quarter and pay down the revolver, and you know at some point we might get it back to zero.

Operator

Okay, thank you.

Speaker 4

Our next question comes from Lawson Winder from Bank of America. Your line's now open. Please proceed.

Speaker 4

Thank you very much, operator, and hello, gentlemen. Thank you for today's update. Could I ask about Mount Milligan and their reduction in their 2025 gold production guidance? Royal Gold has reiterated their volume production guidance range or volume sales guidance range for 2025 despite that. That is also in light of Andacollo underperforming and then Zaventeno also underperforming year to date. Could you maybe walk us through what some of the assets are in the portfolio that are offsetting what you're seeing in weakness in those key assets, allowing you to remain comfortable with the 2025 guidance range?

Speaker 3

Yeah, Lawson, thanks for the question. I think what I might do is turn it over to Martin and let him walk you through how we come up with our guidance ranges, and maybe that will help answer the question. Over to you, Martin.

Speaker 1

Yeah, thanks, Lawson. We don't disclose our guidance based on individual operations, so I'm not really able to give much specific comment in terms of your question about which ones are going to be offsetting this. What I will say is that at the start of each year, we carry out a rigorous risk-adjusted budgeting and guidance preparation process. We don't take the guidance ranges supplied by the operators and just use those and come up with our guidance. We receive monthly budget data from the stream partners. We forecast each asset based on historical performance and based on our specific knowledge of that operation. We build in timing adjustments between production deliveries and sales. In the case of concentrate-producing operations like Mount Milligan and Andacollo, those can be up to five to six months when you include port transport, ocean shipping, and smelting, etc.

Speaker 1

That's a pretty inexact process, especially in the ocean shipping side, because you'll often see in our press releases that we reference early or late deliveries compared to our expectation during the quarter. There is some variability in there. For the royalty assets, we generally have lower information rights, and on those, we tend to rely on historic performance and public disclosures for our risk adjustment process. As I said at the beginning, we don't just take the numbers provided by the operations. We put a lot of risk adjustment into those. Those come out with the numbers, and given that we are comfortable with maintaining our 2025 guidance range at this stage in the year, even though those have been offset somewhat by Mount Milligan underperformance and Zaventeno guidance reduction.

Speaker 1

Okay, no, that's great. That's a very clear explanation. Can I ask about Constancia as well? I'm sure you're very pleased you have gotten that asset. I mean, it's a fabulous asset. Congratulations on achieving this deal. What I wanted to ask about, though, with respect to this deal is exposure to Africa. You know Zambia, relative to other African jurisdictions, has proven to be one of the better quality jurisdictions in Africa, but without question, there's a lot of political volatility in the country. You do have Comacal and Botswana, and there's been a recent political change there with a new president. Where you are today, like assuming Constancia is in the portfolio, are you at a point now where you're maxed out on African exposure, or are you still comfortable adding additional exposure in Africa?

Speaker 3

Yeah, Lawson, it's not so much a continent approach that we would take. We're very comfortable in the three countries where we have interests. It's more of a country by country, and I certainly wouldn't want to sit here today and rule out further investments in a country where we have found that our investments have done well. I think Botswana in particular stands out a little bit. I wouldn't want to take Africa off the table because we have other investments. If we're comfortable with a country, we would consider additional investments. I have to tell you, there's political uncertainty all over the world, even in countries that we tend to think of as stable. That's one of the reasons we really like the Sandstorm and Horizon transactions. The diversification in the portfolio, I think, is really helpful for us.

Speaker 3

Okay, yeah, we'll help set head on global political risk. If I could just ask one more question on capital allocation, the shares without question have underperformed since you announced the Sandstorm Gold transaction. I think there are some folks wondering whether or not there's any consideration for Royal Gold to implement a buyback as a result. I fully acknowledge that you've been reluctant to do that historically, but just in light of the current situation, is there any consideration to that?

Speaker 3

At this point, I don't think so. I think what we're going to do with excess cash flow at this point is pay down the debt that we are going to take on with these transactions. To the extent we can find business development opportunities, we'll look at those as well. Debt repayment, I think, is going to be a key focus before we ever get to consideration of a buyback.

Speaker 3

Thank you very much, Bill.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Lawson.

Speaker 4

As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, it's *1 on your telephone keypad, and to withdraw your question, it's *2. Our next question comes from Josh Wilson from RBC. Your line's now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Yeah, thanks very much. Just a couple of quick ones. On the Sandstorm Gold transaction, is there any more information you can provide on the timing of the circular filing and when the shareholder votes are scheduled?

Speaker 3

Josh, I really can't. I'm sort of focused on our side of things, and I don't honestly have the timetable straight in my head. We're going to shortly file the preliminary proxy with the SEC. I think once we know whether we're going to get comments, whether we have to respond to comments, the timing of it then will play out once we have that. There's nothing we see that makes us think the fourth quarter isn't a good target, but I don't think I can provide much more in the way of a detailed timetable at this point.

Speaker 3

Okay, thanks. With this transaction, are there going to be any additional disclosures or documentation, I guess, specifically for 301s? I know historically, sometimes these transactions would require some disclosures on key assets, either for the target companies or yourselves.

Speaker 3

Josh, actually, let me, Martin, do you have a view on what we might see in terms of 43-101 or similar technical reports?

Speaker 1

Josh, are you asking whether we would be putting out 43-101s, or are you talking about operator 43-101s that we expect?

Speaker 1

It would be your filing of the 43-101s for your underlying stream-related operations, or Sandstorm or Horizon Copper filing any of these documents, if you're aware of that.

Speaker 1

Yeah, we're not planning on filing any documents or any 43-101 documents for these properties at the moment, no.

Speaker 1

Okay. Last question, just related to some of the accounting that was commented on with the Mount Milligan ounces in the third or fourth quarter. Could you remind us what the, I guess, what the booked value was of those ounces?

Speaker 3

Hi, Josh. This is Paul. Thanks for the question. Go ahead, Paul.

Speaker 3

Oh, sorry, Bill.

Speaker 3

Yeah, no, go ahead, Paul.

Speaker 3

Can you hear me okay? Yep, loud and clear.

Speaker 3

Hello? Okay, sorry. If you recall in the transaction back in 2024, we did receive some cash and also that pre-cash flow interest and then also these deferred gold ounces. The only thing that was booked at the time of the transaction was, as part of this deferred support liability that we have on the balance sheet, was that cash, the $25 million. We have no basis in those ounces yet. Once we receive those ounces, that deferred liability will go up by the fair market value of those ounces received, and we'll subsequently sell those ounces in the market within a few days afterwards of receipt. That deferred liability will go up by the fair market value of those ounces received.

Speaker 3

Okay, just to clarify, your comments on the accounting impact is the difference of when you book that income in the third quarter versus the sale price in the fourth quarter, not related to what it stands to the book today. Okay.

Speaker 3

Correct, yeah. More of a mark-to-market. I just wanted to make you aware of it. More importantly, as I said also in those prepared remarks, those ounces will not be part of our 2025 sales guidance, and they're not going to be reflected in our GEO calculations.

Speaker 3

Got it. Okay, that's very helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Josh.

Speaker 4

With that, we have no further questions at this time. I'll hand back over to Bill Heissenbuttel for some closing comments.

Speaker 3

Thank you for taking the time to join us today. We certainly appreciate your interest. We look forward to updating you on our progress during our next quarterly call. Take care.

Speaker 4

That concludes today's call. You may now disconnect your line.

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