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ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Hawaiian Electric Industries EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.20Consensus EPS $0.24Beat/MissMissed by -$0.04One Year Ago EPSN/AHawaiian Electric Industries Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$746.39 millionExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AHawaiian Electric Industries Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2025Date8/7/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, August 7, 2025Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsHawaiian Electric Industries' Q2 2026 earnings is estimated for Thursday, August 6, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Hawaiian Electric Industries Q2 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 7, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: Hawaii State Legislature passed three key laws funding the Maui wildfire tort settlement, directing the PUC to set a wildfire liability cap, and authorizing securitization of $500 million for resilience improvements. Positive Sentiment: The process for final court approval of the Maui wildfire tort settlement continues on schedule, with the first $479 million payment expected to be triggered in early 2026, reducing litigation uncertainty. Positive Sentiment: HEI advanced its strategy to focus solely on its regulated utility business by divesting Pacific Current’s solar and battery assets and planning to sell its remaining American Savings Bank stake. Positive Sentiment: Hawaiian Electric expanded its four-pillar wildfire safety strategy in high-risk areas and will roll out measures to medium-risk zones over the next 6–12 months to enhance grid resilience. Negative Sentiment: Utility core net income fell to $42.5 million in Q2 (down from $43.9 million last year) due to higher wildfire mitigation expenses and increased insurance costs. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallHawaiian Electric Industries Q2 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xThere are 5 speakers on the call. Speaker 300:00:00Good afternoon. My name is Audra, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Hawaiian Electric Industries second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Today's conference is being recorded. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press the star key followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press star one again. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mateo Garcia, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:00:35Thank you. Welcome, everyone, to Hawaiian Electric Industries' second quarter 2025 earnings call. Joining me today are Scott Seu, Hawaiian Electric Industries President and CEO; Scott Deghetto, Hawaiian Electric Industries Executive Vice President and CFO; Shelee Kimura, Hawaiian Electric President and CEO; and other members of senior management. Our earnings release and our presentation for this call are available in the Investor Relations section of our website. As a reminder, forward-looking statements will be made on today's call. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations can be found in our presentation, our SEC filings, and in the Investor Relations section of our website. Today's presentation also includes references to non-GAAP financial measures. You should refer to the information contained in the slides accompanying today's presentation for definitional information and reconciliations of historical non-GAAP measures to the closest GAAP financial measure. Speaker 200:01:29We will take questions from institutional investors at the end of this call. Individual investors and others can reach out to Investor Relations. Now, Scott Seu will begin with his remarks. Operator00:01:41Aloha ka kō. Welcome, everyone. For today's call, I'll start with an update on our continued progress improving our company's financial strength and resilience. I'll also touch on the ongoing implementation of our wildfire safety strategy. Scott Deghetto will then walk through our financial results, and then we'll open it up for questions. In the second quarter, we continued to take actions ensuring the long-term strength and resilience of Hawaiian Electric Industries, while best positioning our company to serve the communities in which we operate for the long term. On our last earnings call, we discussed the Hawaii State Legislature's passage of three important pieces of legislation. As a reminder, the legislation appropriates funds for the state's contribution to the Maui Wildfire Tort Litigation Settlement, directs the Public Utilities Commission to establish an aggregate liability cap for economic damages from future wildfires, and supports reliable, affordable, clean energy procurement. Operator00:02:45In July, Governor Josh Green signed all three pieces of legislation into law. Under the liability cap legislation, which is now known as Act 258, the Public Utilities Commission will initiate a rulemaking proceeding to establish the maximum amount the utility may pay to resolve claims arising from future catastrophic wildfires. There is no set time period for the Commission to establish the cap, as Act 258 stipulates only that the cap shall be determined as soon as practical. The Act also authorizes securitization to finance $500 million of wildfire safety improvements and other infrastructure resilience investments. This will ensure that these critical safety improvements can be implemented at a lower cost to customers. Operator00:03:39In addition, Act 258 directs the Commission to conduct a study to examine the establishment of a wildfire recovery fund to provide efficient compensation for damage resulting from future wildfires caused or exacerbated by an electric utility, and to help protect the financial integrity of Hawaii's regulated utilities. The Commission has already started the process of information gathering and collecting stakeholder input regarding the wildfire fund, and will submit a report of its findings and recommendations to the Hawaii State Legislature 20 days prior to the start of the 2026 legislative session, which takes place in mid-January. Turning to the settlement, we continue to see progress toward implementation of the Maui Wildfire Tort Litigation Settlement Agreement. The process to obtain final court approval of the class and individual plaintiff agreements continues to proceed as expected. Operator00:04:39The parties are working through the remaining administrative steps necessary for the settlement to take effect, and we still expect these steps to be completed in early 2026, which will then trigger our first payment obligation. Last quarter, we discussed our strategy to move forward with a simpler Hawaiian Electric Industries business model. We've continued to make progress on this front since selling 90.1% of American Savings Bank at the end of last year and selling Pacific Current's largest asset, the Hamakua Energy Plant, in the first quarter of this year. Just this week, we announced the sale of Pacific Current's solar and battery energy storage facilities on Kaua'i, O'ahu, and Maui. The strategic review is ongoing for Pacific Current's remaining asset, a biomass plant on Kaua'i. We also expect to divest our remaining stake in American Savings Bank sometime over the next year. Operator00:05:39While we move forward with our strategy to focus solely on our utility business, the utility continues to remove risk from its system through implementation of the enhanced wildfire safety measures outlined in its wildfire safety strategy. In the second quarter, the utility advanced its four-pillared approach to wildfire safety as laid out on slide four, implementing technologies and practices that make our communities safer. Over the next 6 to 12 months, the utility will expand the implementation of these measures from high wildfire risk areas to medium wildfire risk areas as well. These medium risk areas are also important to focus on, particularly given the backdrop of increasingly severe weather events seen elsewhere. Operator00:06:28With a wildfire safety strategy and legislative framework in place to better protect our communities from the risk of future wildfires, with the continued progress of the Maui wildfire tort litigation settlement, and with our simpler, more focused business, our company's path toward financial strength and resilience is clearer now than ever. We're pleased to see that all three of our credit rating agencies have recognized this in recent months, as we've received upgrades from Moody's, S&P, and Fitch. We know that it'll take time to get back to investment grade, however, we'll continue to manage the metrics and a profile consistent with investment grade ratings. In summary, our company's investment thesis is stronger today than it has been at any point since the Maui wildfires. Operator00:07:19We've made significant progress toward resolving the wildfire tort litigation, simplifying our corporate structure, and improving our risk profile, and we believe we're well positioned for a strong and resilient future. I'll now hand the call off to Scott Deghetto, who will take you through the quarter's financial results. Speaker 100:07:39Thank you, Scott. I'll start with our financial results for the quarter on slide five. In the second quarter, we generated a net income of $26.1 million or $0.15 per share. The quarter's results include $5.4 million of earnings impacts related to the sale of Pacific Current assets that Scott mentioned, primarily from the recapture of solar investment tax credits. The quarter's results also include $5.2 million of pre-tax Maui wildfire-related expenses, net of insurance recoveries and deferrals. Approximately $4.5 million of the $5.2 million in Maui wildfire expenses was recorded at the utility. Excluding these items, consolidated core net income was $35.4 million for the quarter, or $0.20 per share. This compares to core net income from continuing operations of $28.4 million, or $0.26 per share, in the second quarter of 2024. Speaker 100:08:43Utility core net income for the quarter was $42.5 million compared to $43.9 million in the second quarter of 2024. The decrease in utility core net income was driven by higher wildfire mitigation program expenses and higher insurance costs, partially offset by higher annual revenue adjustment mechanism revenues and better heat rate performance. Holding company core net loss was $7.1 million compared to $15.5 million in the second quarter of 2024. The lower core net loss was driven by lower interest expense due to lower holding company debt balance following the $384 million debt retirement in April and higher interest income from holding company cash being held on the balance sheet, primarily to make the first settlement payment. Turning to the next slide, I'll provide a few key updates on our capitalization and liquidity. Speaker 100:09:46As of the end of the second quarter, the holding company and utility had approximately $44 million and $106 million of unrestricted cash on hand, respectively. In addition, the holding company has approximately $374 million in combined liquidity available under its ATM program and credit facility capacity. The utility also has approximately $382 million of liquidity available under its accounts receivable facility and credit facility capacity. The first settlement payment of $479 million continues to be held in a subsidiary created for addressing the first installment payment pursuant to the Maui wildfire settlement. This is included in restricted cash on the balance sheet until we make the first settlement payment expected in early 2026. Speaker 100:10:41Looking ahead, Hawaiian Electric Industries remains committed to a simpler, more focused business model as we explore strategic alternatives for the remaining Pacific Current asset, the biomass facility on Kaua'i, and our remaining 9.9% stake in American Savings Bank. Lastly, Hawaiian Electric's Board of Directors approved a $10 million quarterly dividend to Hawaiian Electric Industries for the second quarter of 2025. At that, let's open up the call to questions. Speaker 300:11:13Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you have dialed in and would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue. If you would like to withdraw your question, simply press star one again. We'll pause just a moment to assemble our roster. We'll go first to Nicholas Campanella at Barclays. Speaker 300:11:45Good morning or good afternoon. Hope everyone's doing well. Thanks for the update. Operator00:11:50Hi, Nick. Operator00:11:51Thanks for running through the financing and the liquidity slides. I know you set aside $479 million for the first installment. Just updated thoughts on how you're thinking about de-risking that second payment. I understand you have a good amount of time before getting there, but are you waiting to get through these asset sale reviews or could you do anything in the near term to maybe address that? Thanks. Speaker 100:12:17Yeah, no, thanks for the question, Nick. It's Scott Deghetto. In terms of the second payment, based upon the timeline that we believe the settlement is on, we wouldn't look to raise that next payment probably until the first quarter of next year. That said, we have made a decision. At this point, our intention is to raise that money up at ATI and raise it in the form of either straight debt and/or convertible debt. It'll be, basically, we'll be re-levering ATI for that second payment. Speaker 100:12:59Okay, that's great. You are kind of getting into the later innings of having clarity. Just to give new CapEx outlook, new rate base forecast look, could it be in what you said or any other thoughts there as this comes together? Speaker 100:13:26Yeah, I think, Nick, if you could repeat that, you were going in and out. I don't know if you're on a cell phone. Speaker 100:13:35I'm sorry. I hope that I'm coming through okay. I was just asking when you think you could give more of a view on the consolidated rate base growth and CapEx with all the kind of moving pieces behind you. Speaker 100:13:47Based upon the way we're looking at it right now, we should be able to do that later this year, probably in the November timeframe. Speaker 100:14:01Thank you. Speaker 300:14:08That concludes our Q&A session. I will now turn the conference back over to Scott Seu for closing remarks. Operator00:14:15All right. Thank you again, everybody, for joining us today. In closing, we're well positioned to continue serving our communities with safe, reliable, and resilient utility operations for the long term. We really do believe that we are in a stronger position than at any point over the past two years. This is a direct result of the actions we've taken to regain Hawaiian Electric Industries' financial strength and emerge a stronger company following the Maui wildfires. With the expected resolution of the wildfire tort litigation, our simpler business model focused solely on regulated utility operations, and our strong and improving safety profile, we are optimistic about our future. Thank you again. Speaker 300:14:55This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. 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Email Address About Hawaiian Electric IndustriesHawaiian Electric Industries (NYSE:HE) is a diversified holding company operating in the energy and financial services sectors in the state of Hawaii. Its principal subsidiary, Hawaiian Electric Company, provides generation, transmission, distribution and customer service to the island of Oahu, while its Maui Electric and Hawaii Electric Light Company subsidiaries serve Maui, Molokai, Lanai and Hawaii Island. The roots of the electric utility business trace back to 1891 when service first commenced in Honolulu. Through its subsidiary Hawaii Gas, HEI extends its energy portfolio to include the distribution of natural gas and propane, supporting residential, commercial and industrial customers across the islands. The combined electric and gas operations are focused on advancing Hawaii’s clean energy objectives, with growing investments in solar, wind and battery storage projects to enhance grid reliability and reduce greenhouse gas emissions. In addition to its energy operations, HEI owns American Savings Bank, one of the largest locally based financial institutions in Hawaii. The bank offers a broad range of deposit accounts, lending solutions, mortgage products and wealth management services, catering to both individual consumers and businesses throughout the Hawaiian Islands. Headquartered in Honolulu, HEI is overseen by a board of directors and senior leadership team dedicated to community engagement, sustainability and dependable service delivery. 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There are 5 speakers on the call. Speaker 300:00:00Good afternoon. My name is Audra, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Hawaiian Electric Industries second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Today's conference is being recorded. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press the star key followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press star one again. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mateo Garcia, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:00:35Thank you. Welcome, everyone, to Hawaiian Electric Industries' second quarter 2025 earnings call. Joining me today are Scott Seu, Hawaiian Electric Industries President and CEO; Scott Deghetto, Hawaiian Electric Industries Executive Vice President and CFO; Shelee Kimura, Hawaiian Electric President and CEO; and other members of senior management. Our earnings release and our presentation for this call are available in the Investor Relations section of our website. As a reminder, forward-looking statements will be made on today's call. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations can be found in our presentation, our SEC filings, and in the Investor Relations section of our website. Today's presentation also includes references to non-GAAP financial measures. You should refer to the information contained in the slides accompanying today's presentation for definitional information and reconciliations of historical non-GAAP measures to the closest GAAP financial measure. Speaker 200:01:29We will take questions from institutional investors at the end of this call. Individual investors and others can reach out to Investor Relations. Now, Scott Seu will begin with his remarks. Operator00:01:41Aloha ka kō. Welcome, everyone. For today's call, I'll start with an update on our continued progress improving our company's financial strength and resilience. I'll also touch on the ongoing implementation of our wildfire safety strategy. Scott Deghetto will then walk through our financial results, and then we'll open it up for questions. In the second quarter, we continued to take actions ensuring the long-term strength and resilience of Hawaiian Electric Industries, while best positioning our company to serve the communities in which we operate for the long term. On our last earnings call, we discussed the Hawaii State Legislature's passage of three important pieces of legislation. As a reminder, the legislation appropriates funds for the state's contribution to the Maui Wildfire Tort Litigation Settlement, directs the Public Utilities Commission to establish an aggregate liability cap for economic damages from future wildfires, and supports reliable, affordable, clean energy procurement. Operator00:02:45In July, Governor Josh Green signed all three pieces of legislation into law. Under the liability cap legislation, which is now known as Act 258, the Public Utilities Commission will initiate a rulemaking proceeding to establish the maximum amount the utility may pay to resolve claims arising from future catastrophic wildfires. There is no set time period for the Commission to establish the cap, as Act 258 stipulates only that the cap shall be determined as soon as practical. The Act also authorizes securitization to finance $500 million of wildfire safety improvements and other infrastructure resilience investments. This will ensure that these critical safety improvements can be implemented at a lower cost to customers. Operator00:03:39In addition, Act 258 directs the Commission to conduct a study to examine the establishment of a wildfire recovery fund to provide efficient compensation for damage resulting from future wildfires caused or exacerbated by an electric utility, and to help protect the financial integrity of Hawaii's regulated utilities. The Commission has already started the process of information gathering and collecting stakeholder input regarding the wildfire fund, and will submit a report of its findings and recommendations to the Hawaii State Legislature 20 days prior to the start of the 2026 legislative session, which takes place in mid-January. Turning to the settlement, we continue to see progress toward implementation of the Maui Wildfire Tort Litigation Settlement Agreement. The process to obtain final court approval of the class and individual plaintiff agreements continues to proceed as expected. Operator00:04:39The parties are working through the remaining administrative steps necessary for the settlement to take effect, and we still expect these steps to be completed in early 2026, which will then trigger our first payment obligation. Last quarter, we discussed our strategy to move forward with a simpler Hawaiian Electric Industries business model. We've continued to make progress on this front since selling 90.1% of American Savings Bank at the end of last year and selling Pacific Current's largest asset, the Hamakua Energy Plant, in the first quarter of this year. Just this week, we announced the sale of Pacific Current's solar and battery energy storage facilities on Kaua'i, O'ahu, and Maui. The strategic review is ongoing for Pacific Current's remaining asset, a biomass plant on Kaua'i. We also expect to divest our remaining stake in American Savings Bank sometime over the next year. Operator00:05:39While we move forward with our strategy to focus solely on our utility business, the utility continues to remove risk from its system through implementation of the enhanced wildfire safety measures outlined in its wildfire safety strategy. In the second quarter, the utility advanced its four-pillared approach to wildfire safety as laid out on slide four, implementing technologies and practices that make our communities safer. Over the next 6 to 12 months, the utility will expand the implementation of these measures from high wildfire risk areas to medium wildfire risk areas as well. These medium risk areas are also important to focus on, particularly given the backdrop of increasingly severe weather events seen elsewhere. Operator00:06:28With a wildfire safety strategy and legislative framework in place to better protect our communities from the risk of future wildfires, with the continued progress of the Maui wildfire tort litigation settlement, and with our simpler, more focused business, our company's path toward financial strength and resilience is clearer now than ever. We're pleased to see that all three of our credit rating agencies have recognized this in recent months, as we've received upgrades from Moody's, S&P, and Fitch. We know that it'll take time to get back to investment grade, however, we'll continue to manage the metrics and a profile consistent with investment grade ratings. In summary, our company's investment thesis is stronger today than it has been at any point since the Maui wildfires. Operator00:07:19We've made significant progress toward resolving the wildfire tort litigation, simplifying our corporate structure, and improving our risk profile, and we believe we're well positioned for a strong and resilient future. I'll now hand the call off to Scott Deghetto, who will take you through the quarter's financial results. Speaker 100:07:39Thank you, Scott. I'll start with our financial results for the quarter on slide five. In the second quarter, we generated a net income of $26.1 million or $0.15 per share. The quarter's results include $5.4 million of earnings impacts related to the sale of Pacific Current assets that Scott mentioned, primarily from the recapture of solar investment tax credits. The quarter's results also include $5.2 million of pre-tax Maui wildfire-related expenses, net of insurance recoveries and deferrals. Approximately $4.5 million of the $5.2 million in Maui wildfire expenses was recorded at the utility. Excluding these items, consolidated core net income was $35.4 million for the quarter, or $0.20 per share. This compares to core net income from continuing operations of $28.4 million, or $0.26 per share, in the second quarter of 2024. Speaker 100:08:43Utility core net income for the quarter was $42.5 million compared to $43.9 million in the second quarter of 2024. The decrease in utility core net income was driven by higher wildfire mitigation program expenses and higher insurance costs, partially offset by higher annual revenue adjustment mechanism revenues and better heat rate performance. Holding company core net loss was $7.1 million compared to $15.5 million in the second quarter of 2024. The lower core net loss was driven by lower interest expense due to lower holding company debt balance following the $384 million debt retirement in April and higher interest income from holding company cash being held on the balance sheet, primarily to make the first settlement payment. Turning to the next slide, I'll provide a few key updates on our capitalization and liquidity. Speaker 100:09:46As of the end of the second quarter, the holding company and utility had approximately $44 million and $106 million of unrestricted cash on hand, respectively. In addition, the holding company has approximately $374 million in combined liquidity available under its ATM program and credit facility capacity. The utility also has approximately $382 million of liquidity available under its accounts receivable facility and credit facility capacity. The first settlement payment of $479 million continues to be held in a subsidiary created for addressing the first installment payment pursuant to the Maui wildfire settlement. This is included in restricted cash on the balance sheet until we make the first settlement payment expected in early 2026. Speaker 100:10:41Looking ahead, Hawaiian Electric Industries remains committed to a simpler, more focused business model as we explore strategic alternatives for the remaining Pacific Current asset, the biomass facility on Kaua'i, and our remaining 9.9% stake in American Savings Bank. Lastly, Hawaiian Electric's Board of Directors approved a $10 million quarterly dividend to Hawaiian Electric Industries for the second quarter of 2025. At that, let's open up the call to questions. Speaker 300:11:13Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you have dialed in and would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue. If you would like to withdraw your question, simply press star one again. We'll pause just a moment to assemble our roster. We'll go first to Nicholas Campanella at Barclays. Speaker 300:11:45Good morning or good afternoon. Hope everyone's doing well. Thanks for the update. Operator00:11:50Hi, Nick. Operator00:11:51Thanks for running through the financing and the liquidity slides. I know you set aside $479 million for the first installment. Just updated thoughts on how you're thinking about de-risking that second payment. I understand you have a good amount of time before getting there, but are you waiting to get through these asset sale reviews or could you do anything in the near term to maybe address that? Thanks. Speaker 100:12:17Yeah, no, thanks for the question, Nick. It's Scott Deghetto. In terms of the second payment, based upon the timeline that we believe the settlement is on, we wouldn't look to raise that next payment probably until the first quarter of next year. That said, we have made a decision. At this point, our intention is to raise that money up at ATI and raise it in the form of either straight debt and/or convertible debt. It'll be, basically, we'll be re-levering ATI for that second payment. Speaker 100:12:59Okay, that's great. You are kind of getting into the later innings of having clarity. Just to give new CapEx outlook, new rate base forecast look, could it be in what you said or any other thoughts there as this comes together? Speaker 100:13:26Yeah, I think, Nick, if you could repeat that, you were going in and out. I don't know if you're on a cell phone. Speaker 100:13:35I'm sorry. I hope that I'm coming through okay. I was just asking when you think you could give more of a view on the consolidated rate base growth and CapEx with all the kind of moving pieces behind you. Speaker 100:13:47Based upon the way we're looking at it right now, we should be able to do that later this year, probably in the November timeframe. Speaker 100:14:01Thank you. Speaker 300:14:08That concludes our Q&A session. I will now turn the conference back over to Scott Seu for closing remarks. Operator00:14:15All right. Thank you again, everybody, for joining us today. In closing, we're well positioned to continue serving our communities with safe, reliable, and resilient utility operations for the long term. We really do believe that we are in a stronger position than at any point over the past two years. This is a direct result of the actions we've taken to regain Hawaiian Electric Industries' financial strength and emerge a stronger company following the Maui wildfires. With the expected resolution of the wildfire tort litigation, our simpler business model focused solely on regulated utility operations, and our strong and improving safety profile, we are optimistic about our future. Thank you again. Speaker 300:14:55This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by