HireQuest Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Negative Sentiment: HireQuest highlighted a persistently challenging hiring environment, noting the manufacturing industry contracted for a fifth consecutive month and factory employment hit its lowest level since July 2020.
  • Positive Sentiment: The company’s proven franchise model continues to deliver superior margins and consistent profitability even amid industry headwinds.
  • Negative Sentiment: Second-quarter revenue fell by 12% year-over-year to $7.6 M, net income dropped to $1.1 M (EPS $0.08) from $2 M (EPS $0.15), and adjusted EBITDA margin declined to 43% from 47%.
  • Positive Sentiment: As of June 30, HireQuest carried only $4.3 M of debt, had $35.9 M in available credit, and maintained working capital of $28.6 M, underpinning its financial flexibility.
  • Positive Sentiment: With over $77 M in acquisitions completed since its merger with Command Center and ongoing interest in targets like TrueBlue, HireQuest has significant “dry powder” to pursue value-creating deals.
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Earnings Conference Call
HireQuest Q2 2025
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There are 6 speakers on the call.

Speaker 4

Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for participating in today's conference call to discuss HireQuest's financial results for the second quarter ended June 30, 2025. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press *0 on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to John Nesbett of Institutional Marketing Services Inc. Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Speaker 3

Thank you, and good afternoon. I'd like to welcome everyone to the call. Hosting the call today are HireQuest's Chief Executive Officer, Rick Hermanns, and Chief Financial Officer, David Hartley. I'd like to take a moment to read the safe harbor statement. This conference call contains forward-looking statements as defined within Section 27(a) of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and Section 21(e) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended. These forward-looking statements, in terms such as anticipate, expect, intend, may, will, should, and other comparable terms, involve risks and uncertainties because they relate to events and depend on circumstances that will occur in the future. These statements include statements regarding the intent, belief, and current expectations of HireQuest and members of its management, as well as the assumptions on which such statements are based.

Speaker 3

Prospective investors are cautioned that any such forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve risks and uncertainties, including those ascribed in HireQuest's periodic reports filed with the SEC, and that actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by such forward-looking statements. Except as required by Federal Securities Law, HireQuest undertakes no obligation to update or revise forward-looking statements to reflect change conditions. I would now like to turn the call over to CEO of HireQuest, Rick Hermanns. Please go ahead, Rick.

Speaker 2

Good afternoon, and thank you for joining our call today. Our second quarter performance unfolded much as we had expected, as we continued to face a challenging hiring environment that has persisted now for over two years. As we've mentioned on previous calls, employers of all types are taking a wait-and-see approach in delaying certain hiring decisions in what has been an uncertain macroeconomic climate for the first half of 2025. Moreover, the recent Bureau of Labor Statistics job report reflects continued overall softness. The manufacturing industry continued to contract for the fifth straight month, shedding an additional 11,000 jobs in July, driving down factory employment levels to their lowest point since July of 2020.

Speaker 2

That said, our proven franchise model provides us with a solid operational foundation that enables us to deliver superior operating results for our industry with strong margins and consistent profitability, even when the industry landscape is difficult. The market for permanent placement and executive search solutions continues to be slow, particularly in the manufacturing and IT sectors. This, combined with several franchisees not renewing their franchise agreements over the last couple of quarters, impacted the results of MRI Network. We remain focused on controlling what we can to position MRI to benefit when demand levels for permanent placement and executive search return. Temporary staffing and day labor offerings have performed better relative to MRI, but even so, the upper Midwest has been weak. As we mentioned on our first quarter call, we are encouraged by a newly heightened approach to the enforcement of immigration regulations.

Speaker 2

Relaxed immigration policies throughout the previous administration had a negative impact on our temporary and day labor offerings, as employers chose to use undocumented workers to reduce labor costs. As an E-Verify employer, HireQuest welcomes the enhanced enforcement efforts around hiring documented workers, efforts which we believe create a level playing field in a very competitive space. Acquisitions have historically played an important role in our growth strategy as we look to further expand our market reach and geographic footprint. We've had a great deal of experience and success executing an effective M&A strategy while maintaining a strong balance sheet and managing dilution. It's been six years since our merger with Command Center, and over that time, we've completed over $77 million of acquisitions.

Speaker 2

By the end of the second quarter, with only $4.3 million of debt on the balance sheet, we believe that we are well positioned with the financial flexibility and resources to pursue value-creating opportunities as we identify them. While the first half of 2025 has brought its share of challenges, we have built a strong and flexible business model that has consistently delivered strong margin performance and profitability. HireQuest is well positioned in the markets we serve, with a portfolio of recognized staffing and executive search brands that have allowed us to establish a solid foundation for growth when demand returns in earnest. With that, I will turn the call over now to David to provide a closer look at our second quarter financial results.

Speaker 5

Thank you, Rick, and good afternoon, everyone. I appreciate you all joining us today. Total revenue for the second quarter of 2025 was $7.6 million compared with revenue of $8.7 million in the same quarter last year, a decrease of 12%. Our total revenue is made up of two components: franchise royalties, which is our primary source of revenue, and service revenue, which is generated from certain services and interest charged to our franchisees, as well as other miscellaneous revenue. Franchise royalties for the second quarter were $7.3 million compared to $8.2 million for the same quarter last year. Underlying franchise royalties are system-wide sales, which are not part of our revenue but are a helpful contextual performance indicator. System-wide sales reflect sales at all offices, including those classified as discontinued. System-wide sales for the second quarter were $125.9 million compared to $146.1 million in the second quarter of 2024.

Speaker 5

Sequentially, system-wide sales increased by 6% in the second quarter of 2025 compared to system-wide sales of $118.4 million in the first quarter of this year. Service revenue was $354,000 for the second quarter compared to $479,000 in the second quarter last year. Selling, general, and administrative expenses for the second quarter were $5.9 million compared to $5.3 million in the second quarter of 2024. Driving the increase was approximately $929,000 in transaction expenses, which were partially offset by a decrease of roughly $400,000 in workers' compensation expense. Workers' compensation expense was a drag on our earnings in 2023 and 2024, and we're pleased that our efforts to control costs in this area have achieved cost savings of approximately $1 million through the first six months of 2025 compared to the same period in 2024.

Speaker 5

Shifting to profitability metrics, net income after tax was $1.1 million in the second quarter of 2025, or $0.08 per diluted share, compared to net income of $2 million, or earnings per diluted share of $0.15 in the second quarter of 2024. Adjusted net income for the quarter, which excludes amortization of acquired intangibles and other non-recurring one-time expenses, was $2.1 million, or $0.15 per diluted share, compared to adjusted net income of $2.5 million, or $0.18 per diluted share in the second quarter of 2024. We have provided a table on the press release issued earlier this afternoon with a detailed reconciliation of adjusted net income to net income. Adjusted EBITDA was $3.3 million compared to $4 million in the prior year period. Adjusted EBITDA margin for the quarter was 43% compared to 47% in the second quarter of 2024.

Speaker 5

We believe adjusted EBITDA is a relevant metric for us due to the size of non-cash operating expenses running through our P&L. A detailed reconciliation of adjusted EBITDA to net income is provided in our 10-Q, which was filed this afternoon. Moving on now to the balance sheet. Our total assets as of June 30, 2025, were $94.3 million compared to $94 million at December 31, 2024. Current assets as of June 30, 2025, included $2.7 million in cash and $42.8 million of net accounts receivable, while current assets at December 31, 2024, included $2.2 million of cash and $42.3 million of net accounts receivable. Current assets exceeded current liabilities by $28.6 million at June 30, 2025, versus December 31, 2024, when working capital was $25.1 million. Current liabilities were 45% of current assets at June 30, 2025, versus 49% of current assets at December 31, 2024.

Speaker 5

As of June 30, 2025, we had $4.3 million drawn on our credit facility and another $35.9 million in availability, assuming continued covenant compliance. Just to put that in perspective a bit, we had roughly $16 million in total debt at the end of the second quarter last year. We believe our credit facility provides us with flexibility and room for short-term working capital needs, as well as the capacity to capitalize on potential acquisitions. We have paid a regular quarterly dividend since the third quarter of 2020. As stated on our first quarter call, we most recently paid a $0.06 per common share dividend on June 16, 2025, to shareholders of record as of June 2. We expect to continue to pay a dividend each quarter, subject to the board's discretion. With that, I will turn the call back over to Rick for some closing comments.

Speaker 2

Thank you, David. As always, I'd like to thank our employees and franchisees for their hard work and commitment, and we look forward to speaking with you again when we report our third quarter results. With that, we can now open the line to questions.

Speaker 4

Thank you. The floor is now open for questions. If you would like to join the queue to ask a question at this time, please press *1 on your telephone keypad. We do ask if listening on speakerphone today that you pick up your handset while asking your question to provide optimal sound quality. Once again, that'll be *1 on your keypad at this time to join the queue to ask a question. Please hold a moment while we poll for questions. Your first question today is coming from Michael Allen Baker from D.A. Davidson & Co. Michael, your line is live. Please go ahead.

Operator

Okay, thanks. I guess I wanted to ask you, you said a couple of times you have dry powder for acquisitions. I guess the obvious question would be, since the last call, you did announce a potential pretty large acquisition. Just wondering if you can update us at all on what's going on with TrueBlue and if that's something that you'd rather not talk about in the context of this call. In general, where else are you looking or how do you see the acquisition pipeline? You have the dry powder, but can you get something done, I guess, is the question.

Speaker 2

I'll answer that, and thanks for the question, Mike. Two things. One is consistent with our prior public disclosures, we remain interested in pursuing a transaction with TrueBlue. Beyond that statement, there's nothing new to report. As far as the second part of your question, other companies, we continue to look at other opportunities. I would say simply that there's a good group of leads out there as well. We're not a one-trick pony, just waiting on one deal. I feel good about where we're at with that. As you noted, we have a lot of dry powder right now.

Operator

Yeah, no doubt. Okay, fair enough. A couple of others, I just wanted to ask you, where do you feel like you are in terms of market share on the system-wide sales down about 13%? You know, we can compare that to some other public guys or some industry data. I'm just wondering, you know, your view on how your market share is faring versus some competitors.

Speaker 2

Part of what balances up the numbers a little bit is, as we stated in the prepared remarks, we had a couple of fairly significant MRI franchisees not renew their franchise. When you look at market share, obviously, do you include them or do you not include them? Compared to last year, we probably lost a bit of ground because we lost those franchises. That said, our individual franchisees are performing in line, I would say, with the market. I think that it's very much though segment dependent. If you look at whatever places we're weak in, there are macroeconomic effects that are definitely playing a big role in that. I'll just use as an example, in the, let's say, the Washington, D.C. market, which is heavily construction for us, is struggling a bit, particularly relative to last year.

Speaker 2

That makes sense in the context of what's, let's say, with the change over in the administration. I don't know if that answers your question, but I would just say a lot of it is definitely circumstances related to the local economy. Again, that's why we brought out the part about manufacturing in the prepared remarks as well. The upper Midwest and the Northern Great Plains is really probably our weakest area. It's consistent with the data that BLS is putting out.

Operator

Okay, that makes sense. Just one follow-up, then I'll turn it over. Within MRI, the franchisees not renewing, is that what's going on there? Is that common? Does that speak to, is there any color behind why that might have happened, how much that impacted the numbers? Just a little bit more color on what happened there.

Speaker 2

MRI generally, even at the time we bought it, had been a company that really hadn't grown except for in 2021 and 2022, just due to the rebound from the pandemic. It had been shrinking for a long time. We obviously thought and still think that we will eventually turn that around. However, it was part of a long-term trend that started literally 20 years ago, 25 years ago. That trend already started. That is part of it, the nature of, even in the name MRI Network, it's more of a network of somewhat related recruiting firms than it is a traditional franchise relationship. In other words, most of our MRI franchisees have their own trade name, as an example. There are a lot looser rules of affiliation. In our staffing operations, everybody uses the same software. We provide the financing for all of our franchisees.

Speaker 2

There is a lot more glue, and it's far more difficult to operate independent of us, as a Snelling or a HireQuest Direct, than it is with MRI, which again, are already practically independent. It makes it more of a challenge to retain franchises.

Operator

Okay, makes sense. Thanks. I'll turn it over to someone else.

Speaker 4

Thank you. Your next question is coming from Kevin Mark Steinke from Barrington Research Associates Inc. Kevin, your line is live. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Great, thank you. Just wanted to ask a little bit more about the overall environment as you see it currently. Obviously, a lot of noise at the very outset of the second quarter around tariffs that's maybe, you know, calmed down a bit. Have you seen any, I guess, stabilization or signs of a little bit better demand? I know you said system-wide sales were up 6% sequentially. I guess perhaps that's probably just kind of the, you know, typical seasonal bump. I guess, you know, any more color on recent trends or trends that you saw throughout the quarter?

Speaker 2

Yeah, Kevin, I think that probably May was probably the worst in early June, and we've sort of come back a bit closer to, let's say, prior year comparisons. I wouldn't say that we've, you know, we haven't started, you know, we aren't exceeding last year, even as we're, let's say, through July. There's not, I'm not going to say that there's been a great recovery with respect to sales. There hasn't been. I do agree with you that there are some good signs out there. I gotta be honest with you, if you'd have asked me five, six months ago, I would have expected the ICE enforcement to create a bit more demand for us. While there have been circumstances where we've regained certain clients, it's not been as much as what I would have thought.

Speaker 2

That being said, I saw data out there that said, for example, there were only 100,000 deportations in the first half of the year. Compared to the size of the United States economy, 100,000 deportations really is nothing, and it's really just in line with what it always has been. There might be a bit more noise, more, what is it, more smoke than there is heat. I don't know. That said, as well, we just had a nice win about a week ago. We're going to be starting back up with a food processing plant that historically, food processing plants tend to engage with a large number of non-E-Verified workers. Getting back a client like that hopefully is a harbinger for things to come.

Speaker 1

Okay, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, thanks for that color. Just wanted to follow up.

Speaker 2

I'm sorry, Kevin, I don't mean to interrupt you. One thing I would say too is, no problem, but financial professionals is still a really strong category for us. That's primarily on the MRI side, but that's actually really still a category that's growing for us really nicely.

Speaker 1

Okay, that's good to hear. I also wanted to ask about the SG&A expense line, excluding those transaction-related costs. I think there was a little bit of professional fees and severance costs in the first quarter. If you strip those things out, it looks like SG&A was down a little bit sequentially on a comparable basis. Just trying to get a better sense for the SG&A run rate going forward and if you've recently taken any more cost actions in light of the environment.

Speaker 2

Obviously, the transaction costs were a large number with respect to the comparisons. I would also say that, and by the way, kudos to David Hartley for completing his first quarter as CFO. I would just add that, for example, Steve Crane, our retired CFO, his salary was being carried two-thirds of the way through the second quarter. There will be a bit of an impact in the third quarter from that. Otherwise, though, there's nothing I would say necessarily good or bad facing us in the third quarter, other than the reduction with respect to our former CFO that obviously won't be included in the third quarter.

Speaker 1

Right. Yeah. Okay. Got it. You know, workers’ comp continues to come down. Is there still a thought that maybe at some point, perhaps next year, that's pretty close to neutral, but you'd kind of get to more of a pretty completely neutral stance or standpoint at perhaps next year?

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, that clearly, that's what our target is. It's, you know, is to completely eliminate that expense. There's still some lingering development from some of our older years. I do think that sort of on a current basis, we're, you know, in the current policy, we're running pretty close to where we need to be running, you know, in order for us to be flat as it relates to workers' comp. I do think that there's still room for improvement on it. Obviously, not nearly as much room for improvement as there was last year. Of course, we did make a lot of progress. Again, I would say that there are still some improvements that should go into not only the second half, but into 2026.

Speaker 1

Okay. Great. Yeah, that's helpful. All right. Thank you for taking the questions as always.

Speaker 2

Of course, thank you.

Speaker 4

Thank you. This does conclude today's Q&A session. At this time, I would like to turn the floor back to management for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

I want to thank everybody for joining us today. I appreciate your support of the company. I want to thank our franchisees and employees for doing a good job in a challenging environment. Thank you. Until next quarter, talk to you then.

Speaker 4

Thank you. This does conclude today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines at this time and have a wonderful day. Thank you once again for your participation.

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