Provident Financial Services Q3 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Strong third-quarter profitability: Adjusted net income rose 17.5% year over year to $84 million, or $0.65 per share, while record operating revenue reached $238 million and adjusted PPNR increased 10% to nearly $120 million.
  • Positive Sentiment: Provident reported continued balance-sheet momentum, including 5.4% annualized deposit growth and 2.5% annualized loan growth; management maintained its 5%–6% full-year loan and deposit growth outlook and expects approximately 6% loan growth for the year.
  • Positive Sentiment: Credit quality remained favorable: Net charge-offs were just 5 basis points, commercial delinquencies improved, and management expects resolution of four senior-housing-related credits by year-end, which would reduce adjusted NPAs to approximately 23 basis points of assets.
  • Positive Sentiment: The bank completed its core conversion as planned, with management citing potential efficiency, data, artificial intelligence, and revenue benefits; Provident expects to maintain positive operating leverage while investing in these initiatives.
  • Negative Sentiment: Reported net income was reduced by $17.5 million in debt-extinguishment costs, $3.7 million of core-conversion expenses, and other one-time charges; management also expects deposit acquisition costs to remain elevated and fourth-quarter expenses to rise modestly with incentive accruals and final conversion costs.
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Provident Financial Services Q3 2026
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Operator

Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us and welcome to the Provident Financial Services third quarter 2026 earnings conference call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star one again. I will now hand the conference over to Michael Perito, Head of Investor Relations. Michael, please go ahead.

Michael Perito
Michael Perito
Head of Investor Relations at Provident Financial Services

Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us for our third quarter 2026 earnings call. Today's presenters are President and CEO, Tony Labozzetta, and Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Adriano Duarte. Before beginning their review of our financial results, we ask that you please take note of our standard caution as to any forward-looking statements that may be made during the course of today's call. Our full disclaimer is contained in last evening's earnings release, which has been posted to the investor relations page on our website, provident.bank. Now I'd like to hand it off to Tony Labozzetta, who will offer his perspective on our third quarter. Tony?

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

Thank you, Michael, and good morning, everyone. I appreciate you joining us today to discuss our third quarter results. Provident continued its strong performance, delivering another quarter of solid financial results. With core net income of $84 million, or $0.65 per diluted share, our annualized adjusted return on average assets was 1.3%, and our adjusted return on average tangible common equity was over 16% for the sixth consecutive quarter. Total operating revenues of $238 million marked another record quarter and continued to be driven by good growth in both our spread and fee-based businesses. Year-over-year, net interest income grew 7%, and our wealth and insurance revenues grew 6% and 20% respectively. Our adjusted pre-provision net revenue reached a record $120 million, representing $0.92 per share and an annualized core PPNR return on average assets of 1.85%.

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

Over Labor Day weekend, the bank completed its core conversion as planned. This was a significant project that touched virtually every aspect of our bank. I'm extremely proud of our team for executing with excellence on this critical initiative. Their planning, collaboration, effort, and focus on the customer experience resulted in a very successful conversion. Our strong core profitability and ability to drive positive operating leverage while making significant investments, such as our core conversion, represents one of the key elements of our strategy. Balance sheet trends during the quarter show continued positive momentum, keeping us on track to achieve the growth we guided to for the year. We saw solid expansion during the quarter in non-interest bearing deposits, and more broadly, our core business deposits, which drove deposit growth over 5% annualized. The bank remains focused on growing our deposits to fund our strong lending activity.

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

We have several impactful deposit initiatives in flight, particularly in our small business group and within certain targeted specialty deposit verticals. Commercial loan balances grew 3% annualized in the third quarter, which, as a reminder, is typically a seasonally slower quarter for our business. In addition to normal seasonality, the recent rise in interest rates also weighed slightly on our mortgage warehouse balances. Overall, activity and loan growth remain positive. We funded approximately $550 million of commercial loans during the quarter, and our pipeline remains over $3 billion. For the third consecutive quarter, our pipeline remains well-diversified with C&I middle market and specialty representing over 50% of the total. We are pacing to achieve approximately 6% loan growth for the year. Although, we remain mindful that payoffs in the fourth quarter could have an impact on net growth.

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

Asset quality metrics were stable when compared to the prior quarter and remain at low levels. We continue to make good progress on the senior housing relationship that migrated to non-performing status earlier this year and anticipate a satisfactory resolution by year-end. Adjusting our non-performing assets for the resolution of these four credits, our NPAs would be only 23 basis points of total assets. Overall, asset quality trends remain favorable. Commercial delinquencies have improved, and net charge-offs were only five basis points for both this quarter and year to date. The bank has strong balance sheet, and we continue to actively manage our interest rate risk profile. During the quarter, we saw improvement in both our loan-to-deposit and CRE concentration ratios. Our CET1 ratio grew to 10.9%, and during the past few weeks, the bank has been buying back stock due to increased market volatility.

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

Overall, I'm incredibly proud of the hard work of our employees. Our strong performance is a direct result of the culture we have at Provident. Now, I would like to turn the call over to Adriano for his comments on our financial performance. Adriano?

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

Thank you, Tony, and good morning, everyone. As Tony noted, our adjusted net income for the third quarter was $84 million, or $0.65 per share, which increased 17.5% versus the third quarter of 2025. This produced an adjusted return on average assets of 1.3% and a core return on average tangible equity of 16.6%, adjusting for the amortization of intangibles. During the quarter, we had several non-core expense items that impacted our reported net income of $69 million, or $0.53 per share. These items included a $17.5 million loss on extinguishment of debt due to accelerated amortization of purchase accounting, $3.7 million of core conversion costs, and $465,000 of early lease termination costs. Adjusted pre-provision net revenue was nearly $120 million or annualized 1.85% of average assets, a 10% increase from the $109 million, or 1.76% of average assets reported for the third quarter of 2025.

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

Our record revenue of $238 million was driven by record net interest income of $208 million and non-interest income of $30.5 million. Average earning assets increased $341 million or an annualized 5.8% versus the trailing quarter, with average yield on assets increasing 7 basis points to 5.68%. Interest-bearing deposit costs were 2.5%, an increase of 13 basis points versus the trailing quarter, while total deposit costs were 2.02%, an increase of 10 basis points. Our core net interest margin expanded 7 basis points to 3.16%, while our reported net interest margin expanded 2 basis points to 3.5%. We are currently modeling one rate increase by the Federal Reserve in December of 2026 and expect core margin to expand 1-2 basis points in the fourth quarter. Period end loans held for investment increased $124 million or an annualized 2.5% for the quarter.

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

Our pull-through adjusted loan pipeline at quarter end was $1.7 billion. The pipeline rate is approaching 6.5% and remains accretive relative to our current portfolio yield of 5.94%. Period end deposits increased $262 million for the quarter or an annualized 5.4%. The increase was driven by commercial and municipal deposit growth. Our loan-to-deposit ratio improved quarter-over-quarter to 101.8%, and we continue to target a 97%-103% range on this ratio. Asset quality remains strong, with non-performing assets representing 55 basis points of total assets. We recorded a provision for credit losses of $5.2 million for the quarter, driven mainly by loan growth, changes in portfolio mix, and required specific reserves. This brought our allowance coverage ratio up 2 basis points from the trailing quarter to 94 basis points. Non-interest income of $30.5 million was slightly ahead of expectations, partly due to elevated BOLI income of $3.5 million.

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

In addition, we continue to see solid performance from both our insurance and wealth management divisions. Wealth management AUM was relatively stable during the quarter at $4.4 billion. Total non-interest expense increased $140.7 million in the third quarter, reflecting non-operating expenses I previously noted. After adjusting for these items, core non-interest expense was approximately $119 million for the quarter. Adjusted expenses to average assets and the efficiency ratio were stable from the trailing quarter at 1.84% and 49.9%, respectively. We project quarterly core operating expenses of approximately $118 million to $120 million in the fourth quarter, with the increased range most notably driven by higher incentive accruals due to our stronger financial performance. In addition to normal expenses, we will be incurring final costs associated with the successful core conversion of approximately $1 million in the fourth quarter.

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

Our continued sound financial performance supported earning asset growth and again drove strong capital formation, excluding changes in AOCI. Tangible book value per share decreased $0.26 this quarter to $16.16, and our tangible common equity ratio decreased slightly to 8.4% quarter-over-quarter. Lastly, I'd like to share a couple of additional updates with our guidance. We continue to expect full-year loan and deposit growth of 5%-6% with non-interest income of approximately $29 million in the fourth quarter. We expect a full-year effective tax rate of approximately 28%, and we continue to target a core ROA of 1.2%-1.3% with a mid-teens return on average tangible common equity. That concludes our prepared remarks, and we would be happy to respond to any questions.

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star one again. We ask that you pick up your handset when asking a question to allow for optimum sound quality. If you are muted locally, please remember to unmute your device. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Feddie Strickland with Hovde. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Feddie Strickland
Analyst at Hovde

Good morning, Tony and Adriano. Just wanted to start on deposits, if we could. You guys have been able to consistently grow DDAs for two quarters in a row at this point. Can we see that starting to flatten out with higher rates and maybe some mix shift, or can you continue growing that given the momentum you talked about last quarter in Treasury and some other areas?

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

Well, our expectation that deposits will continue to grow. Obviously, market dynamics like changing rates may make the cost of acquisition a little higher than they presently are. But the strategies that we have both in production now and in flight, we expect that the laser focus that we have on deposits to continue to show growth in the upcoming quarters.

Feddie Strickland
Analyst at Hovde

Understood. But can the non-interest-bearing balances grow from here, you think, or are they relatively flat?

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

Well, we had a 5% growth this quarter in non-interest-bearing demand. The focus that we have in our commercial lending side and our treasury management side, we think we could continue to grow. Could I promise that it's going to be 5%? I think changing rates will also impact that as well. But we still expect to have some expansion in that. Obviously, depending on what happens to market rates and the delta between zero and the offering rate.

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

Exactly. It might create a little bit of a transition from NIB to other deposit lines. But as Tony said, I think the production will definitely be there.

Feddie Strickland
Analyst at Hovde

Understood. Totally fair. Just switching gears to loans, just seems like a relatively stable pipeline linked quarter. You reiterated the guide here. Is it fair to assume you see the loan growth maybe tick back up in the fourth quarter? I also just wanted to ask if you're starting to see pay-downs slow at all with higher rates.

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

Yeah. When it comes to the commercial loan pipeline overall, I think we're very confident in not only its pull-through, but in its diversity and mix that's in that pipeline. I think rates would have to move, I would say more than 50 basis points, and depending on which part of the curve moves. Obviously, if the short part of the Fed moves, we might see some reduction in activity beyond a 50 basis point move in more of the C&I type loans. Obviously, if the Treasury curve moves, we could see that on the term loans like CRE, et cetera. But right now, we feel pretty strong about our pipeline. The pull-through, the level that it's at, the activity that we're seeing flow in to replace the closed and funded business. I think as I mentioned in my opening remarks, I think we're seeing a 6% growth level.

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

Obviously, I have to put a caveat that if we see prepayments beyond what we're anticipating, that could impact that number. But right now, it's looking good. But I will stress one more thing. Volume by itself is not important. I think we haven't bent one bit on credit structure. We continue to deal with some of the most notable sponsors. So we're feeling pretty good, not only about the level of production, but the quality of that production. Just wanted to reiterate.

Feddie Strickland
Analyst at Hovde

Great. Thank you for the color. Just one more quick one, if I could, on accretion. Is there any significant change to that number? I think I had about $20 million, if my math's right, this quarter.

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

Should tick down a little bit, Feddie. As prepayments have slowed down on some of the CRE loans. We're projecting for the next 12 months around 60-62.

Feddie Strickland
Analyst at Hovde

Got it. Thanks, Adriano. I'll step back.

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

Thanks, Feddie.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Tim Switzer with KBW. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Tim Switzer
Tim Switzer
Analyst at KBW

Hey, good morning, guys. Thank you for taking my questions.

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

Great morning.

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

Good morning.

Tim Switzer
Tim Switzer
Analyst at KBW

Real quick. Sorry, Adriano. Can you repeat what the expected purchase accounting is going forward?

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

For securities and loans, we anticipate somewhere between $60 million and $62 million for the next 12 months. About $15 million a quarter.

Tim Switzer
Tim Switzer
Analyst at KBW

Got it. Okay, couldn't tell if it was 50 or 60. Got it. Five, zero. My other question for you guys.

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

Six, zero, Tim.

Tim Switzer
Tim Switzer
Analyst at KBW

Oh, sorry. six, zero. My apologies. You guys have talked a good amount about the benefits of the core conversion, particularly in the commercial part of the business. Now that it's completed, could you maybe discuss what some of the immediate benefits are or already have been, and what the near-term opportunities going forward will be? How much of this is efficiency focused versus revenue opportunities?

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

That's great. That's a good question. I think the first thing I will draw back on in my comments, I couldn't do enough justice to how well that conversion took place. I think our team did an outstanding job. I would call it brilliant execution all the way across on how collaborative that was. Now that that's behind us, it's going to allow us to continue our focus on the projects that we have in flight. Some of the things I'll point to is our data capabilities. We have a big project to enhance our data capabilities, which is going to obviously increase efficiencies. It's going to increase decision-making power within our organization. When it comes to, we had probably over a year now, we've had a governance council around AI. That particularly is to ensure that any initiatives that we have are aligned with the business use cases.

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

It's worked well. We've developed our own AI agent that we call B as part of our conversion, which I think it was very instrumental to the success in terms of empowering our organization with knowledge and answers so that we could have a great customer experience in the conversion. Moving forward, we expect to use our platform with enhanced data to continue to do these in-flight projects that we have and build along our loan capabilities and et cetera. I could keep going, but I think I gave you the gist of what we're trying to accomplish.

Tim Switzer
Tim Switzer
Analyst at KBW

Yeah, that was great color. I appreciate it. Then one last one, another follow-up on the NIM. Given the impact of rate hikes near term, you guys are a little liability sensitive, I feel like. But longer term, does that change over time? Is there a catch up on loan repricing or anything? And how should we think about the trajectory of the margin if we get, say, two or three hikes and then the Fed just kind of settles down for a little bit?

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

Yeah. So our balance sheet position is mostly neutral across the board, both the rates down, rates up. Typically, we may see one to two basis point rate compression with a 25 basis point rate hike, but that takes into account no movement on the long run of the curve. And I think we have enough management strategies to sustain a pretty stable margin across all rate events.

Tim Switzer
Tim Switzer
Analyst at KBW

Okay, great. Good to hear. Thank you guys.

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

Basis points expansion in the margin with a rate down.

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

Right. Yeah.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Steve Moss with Raymond James. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Steve Moss
Steve Moss
Analyst at Raymond James

Good morning, guys.

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

Morning.

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

Good morning.

Steve Moss
Steve Moss
Analyst at Raymond James

Maybe just following up on expenses and the investments going forward. Just curious, I know you guys are getting to planning season for 2027, but just how you guys are thinking about the cadence of expense growth in 2027.

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

On a core basis, Steve, we expect to finish out the year right around $474 million in total and probably a growth between 3.5% and 3.75% off of that into 2027.

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

What I would add to that is some of the projects that I talked about that are in flight are all within that paradigm that AD just discussed. Again, positive operating leverage is a big focus for us. As we invest, we expect that revenue return.

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

Yeah. It has to match the revenue that we're producing.

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

Right.

Steve Moss
Steve Moss
Analyst at Raymond James

Right. I hear you guys there. That's helpful. In terms of just thinking about the back book repricing here, just kind of curious, is there any step up in cash flows in 2027 that maybe helps the margin?

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

In 2027, it's kind of hard to say. With rates up, we might actually see a little bit of a slowdown, but we still have about just on natural maturities and a pretty conservative prepayment assumption, about $3.3 billion in loans repricing over the next 12 months.

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

We're going from about 5.75% to, let's say, 6.5% or north of that. On the security side, about $350 million for the year that we anticipate repricing in the next 12 months.

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

Yeah. The only thing I'd add, Steve, is we're still seeing a good pickup on rate on the investment side as well. So really both parts of the earning asset leverage are still in place as we move into 2027 in terms of seeing pickup on yields to help offset some of the funding cost rise that we've seen in the last 90-100 days.

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

Yeah, exactly. On the core basis, we're looking at north of 100 basis points pickup on each one of those line items.

Steve Moss
Steve Moss
Analyst at Raymond James

Okay, great. Appreciate that color there. Just in terms of thinking about credit. Hearing you guys in terms of the credit resolution, the reserve has kind of started to drift up a little bit over the last couple of quarters from the lows. Just thinking about modeling this going forward, obviously a more greater C&I mix, do we think that changes the reserve ratio just steadily higher over the next four to five quarters?

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

We've been pretty stable on a pool basis, right around 90 basis points. Some of that increase has actually been on some one-off specific reserves that we needed to put up. But on a C&I basis, obviously something could pop in, but we don't see any broad possible issues there.

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

Yeah, I think I would add, Steve, that when it comes to that, there's a lot of look-sees in the organization. On a quarterly basis, we stress very different sectors of our loan portfolio from CRE or now into the C&I space. We do something we call Cramer, which is loan reviews within the teams. So we got a pretty good eye into what is coming down the pike, and there's nothing that we see today that is in any way, shape, or form, rising to a level of concern. In fact, as we solve for the four credits that I mentioned, which is going according to plan and we expect it to move out by the end of the fourth quarter, our total NPAs will be down to 23 basis points. So it's looking pretty positive.

Steve Moss
Steve Moss
Analyst at Raymond James

No, great. Appreciate all that color here, and I'll step back in the queue. Thank you very much, guys.

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

Thank you.

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from Manuel Navas with Piper Sandler. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Manuel Navas
Manuel Navas
Analyst at Piper Sandler

Hey, good morning. The pipeline's.

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

Morning.

Manuel Navas
Manuel Navas
Analyst at Piper Sandler

Pretty steady, pretty strong. You're going to close the year out with solid loan growth. With rates not really impacting demand yet, is this a good run rate into next year? Kind of thoughts on the opportunities for loan growth next year?

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

Yeah. I think, yes. The short answer is yes, but I want to frame it in the context of it's not a guess. It's looking at what's happening in the market and looking at our capacity within our organization and the number of producers and teams that we have. When you do the simple math of it, again, we could outpace that guidance depending on certain dynamics. But the one thing we won't do is bend on our credit culture. We do project in that 5%-6% range for next year as well.

Manuel Navas
Manuel Navas
Analyst at Piper Sandler

Appreciate that. The guide for fees in the fourth quarter, can you walk through some of the line items there? How do you get that $29 million?

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

So both wealth management and our insurance lines, we expect to grow versus the prior year. On the bank fee income, we should see a little bit of a pickup in the fourth quarter versus the third quarter. We had some statement overlaps during the conversion process where we passed on some fees just to make sure the customer experience was what we need it to be. We have pretty strong SBA loan sales coming down the pike on the fourth quarter as well. BOLI is probably the one piece that it was a little bit of an uptick in the third quarter, as we mentioned, about $3.5 million higher than the typical run rate.

Manuel Navas
Manuel Navas
Analyst at Piper Sandler

Okay. I appreciate that. And you talked about buyback being a little bit opportunistic here in October.

Manuel Navas
Manuel Navas
Analyst at Piper Sandler

Can you update that? And what would be the right pace there, and how long can this extend, that kind of opportunistic repurchase trend?

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

Typically, we have a threshold as if we were acquiring ourselves. So the earn back is typically three years. Right now, the threshold is about that $22 mark. So we're active when the opportunity arises, and our stock price dips below that. Currently, we purchased back about 370,000 shares.

Manuel Navas
Manuel Navas
Analyst at Piper Sandler

Thank you. So the price sensitivities would drive it? Okay. Thank you.

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

Yeah. Currently, that's how we approach it, Manuel.

Manuel Navas
Manuel Navas
Analyst at Piper Sandler

I appreciate it. Thank you for the commentary.

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Matthew Breese with Stephens. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Matthew Breese
Matthew Breese
Analyst at Stephens

Hey, good morning.

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

Morning.

Matthew Breese
Matthew Breese
Analyst at Stephens

I wanted to talk a little bit about the loan-to-deposit ratio. You provided some guidance there. I guess within that, maybe help me out on a couple of areas. What were municipal deposits at the period end? I think the release noted they were down. I was just curious what the absolute level was. What is the all-in incremental cost of deposits today? How does that compare to a quarter ago?

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

The all-in is about 3.25, Matthew, where probably a quarter ago, we were around 285-295 range. The municipal deposits are right around $3.6 billion at this point. But typically at quarter end, it is usually on the low side of those balances.

Matthew Breese
Matthew Breese
Analyst at Stephens

Okay. Just thinking about your loan-to-deposit ratio guide, I think it was, what, 97% at the low end?

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

On the low end, yeah.

Matthew Breese
Matthew Breese
Analyst at Stephens

Yeah. If you were to hit that perfect, does that include growth in some of the higher cost areas like CDs and money market? Is that necessary to get there? Or is it more a function of loan growth?

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

You know, Matthew, I don't think that's how we think about it. That range is how we want to operate the business and manage our balance sheet to maximize our liquidity and our profitability. So where we fall in that range, and the reason the range is wide is because of some of that seasonality in the municipal business. But I think our intention just purely stated is to grow loans and fund them with core deposit initiatives that we have that Tony and AD mentioned. I think that's kind of how we think about growing the business. I would add one thing, that our expectation is that we're growing deposits in every one of our verticals. That includes non-interest bearing and interest bearing. We want to outperform in the areas of the key core deposits.

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

But in order for us to maintain that to get to that 97% or sub one, you're going to have to grow all of your deposit verticals. You can't do it with just one.

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

Sure. And sometimes even being at that 97% may not be the most profitable approach to getting there.

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

Right.

Matthew Breese
Matthew Breese
Analyst at Stephens

Understood. I just wanted to get some sense for how to get there.

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

Yeah.

Matthew Breese
Matthew Breese
Analyst at Stephens

Then stepping back just on M&A, I'd be curious how active are conversations these days, and maybe remind us in terms of size, geography, and type of banks you'd be interested in partnering with.

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

Great question. I always have to start this question by putting, as you have seen by our comments and our answers, and our hyper-focus as an organization is to make sure that organically we are growing every business line within this bank. I think we are doing so, and we are off to some good results. That being said, M&A is something that it is part of the job, right? You always have to have conversations. You have to know the markets around you. The way I would express it is this, we are fortunate enough to put ourselves in a position where we have optionality. The optionality would be that we are not forced to do anything. If something were to take place in the conversations that is culturally compatible, gives us a strategic purpose, then we would entertain it.

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

I want to make sure that everyone understands that the lion's share of our focus is on organic growth.

Matthew Breese
Matthew Breese
Analyst at Stephens

Tony, I would just be curious, are conversations starting to pick up a little bit? Just in terms of size and geography, I would be curious where you are interested.

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

Yeah. Matthew, I would say the conversations are always happening. I do not know if there has been a pickup. I think I would say since the regulatory changes when you had a kind of a hyper pickup, I think then it just got steady. Now it is just business as usual when it comes to M&A discussions.

Matthew Breese
Matthew Breese
Analyst at Stephens

Okay. I'll leave it there. Thank you.

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

Thank you. Thanks, Matthew.

Adriano Duarte
Adriano Duarte
EVP and CFO at Provident Financial Services

Thanks, Matthew.

Operator

This concludes today's question and answer session. I will now turn the call back to Tony Labozzetta for closing remarks.

Tony Labozzetta
Tony Labozzetta
President and CEO at Provident Financial Services

Well, thank you everyone. I would like to mention again that we are very excited about Provident's future. We appreciate you joining us on the call today, and we look forward to speaking with you again after the holidays.

Operator

This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.

Executives
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      Michael Perito
      Head of Investor Relations
    • Tony Labozzetta
      Tony Labozzetta
      President and CEO
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      Adriano Duarte
      EVP and CFO
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