Lassonde Industries Q3 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Neutral Sentiment: Q3 sales fell 2.3% excluding favorable foreign exchange, and adjusted EBITDA eased to CAD 84 million from CAD 86 million. However, gross profit rose 3% excluding FX, while adjusted EPS increased 2% to CAD 5.94.
  • Negative Sentiment: Production problems at the North Carolina and legacy New Jersey facilities constrained volumes and growth opportunities, while raising conversion and freight costs. Management expects some disruption and higher costs to continue into early 2027 as production transfers to the new New Jersey plant.
  • Negative Sentiment: Management expects fiscal 2026 sales to be slightly below last year, excluding FX, as consumer demand remains weak. A specialty-food customer change will also affect 2027 sales; about 70% of replacement volume is secured, but the company cautioned that it may not be replaced on comparable terms.
  • Positive Sentiment: Some brands and channels showed resilience: Apple & Eve gained U.S. distribution, Oasis added chilled-category volume and share, and premium pasta sauces and food-service accounts delivered gains. The new New Jersey facility remains on schedule and on budget, with test runs expected near year-end.
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Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to Lassonde Industries 2026 Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. The corporation's press release reporting its financial results was published yesterday after market close. It can be found on its website at lassonde.com, along with the MD&A and financial statements. These documents are available on SEDAR+ as well. A presentation supporting this conference call was also posted on the website. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Instructions will be provided at that time for you to queue up for questions. If anyone has any difficulties hearing the conference, please press star followed by zero for operator assistance at any time. Before turning to management's pre-recorded remarks, please be advised that this conference call will contain statements that are forward-looking within the meaning of Canadian securities laws.

Operator

Forward-looking information is based on management's current expectations and assumptions, and is subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated. For a discussion of key assumptions and risk factors, please refer to the forward-looking statements section of the MD&A. Also note that all figures expressed on today's call are in Canadian dollars unless otherwise stated, and that most amounts have been rounded to ease the presentation. This call will also include certain non-IFRS financial measures and ratios that are not standardized under IFRS and may not be comparable to similar measures used by other issuers. Reconciliations to the most directly comparable IFRS measures and related definitions are provided in the appendix to the presentation and in the corporation's MD&A. This conference call is being recorded on Friday, November 6th, 2026.

Operator

I will now turn the call over to Vince Timpano, Chief Executive Officer.

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. I am here with Francis Trudeau, our Chief Financial Officer. We appreciate your time today as we review our results for the third quarter ended September 26th, 2026. Please turn to slide four. Lassonde delivered another quarter of gross profit and EPS growth despite a challenging operating environment. Externally, macroeconomic uncertainty continues to weigh on consumer sentiment, placing pressure on volumes across several segments of the agri-food sector, while inflationary pressures also impacted freight costs. Internally, temporary production issues in our U.S. beverage network constrained our ability to meet certain growth opportunities, and to a lesser extent, increased conversion costs. Despite these headwinds, the strength of our brands, continued disciplined revenue management, and the agility of our network enabled us to consolidate our position in key categories. Now let's turn to slide five for a closer look at our operations, beginning with beverage activities.

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

In our U.S. beverage business, commercial gains offset category softness, but supply constraints driven by internal operational issues led to a volume decline. Disciplined pricing and promotions enabled us to remain competitive while delivering value amid evolving consumer purchasing behaviors. In private label, our performance was in line with the category, while brands outperformed, driven by distribution gains for Apple & Eve, as it continued expanding with national retailers in the U.S. Midwest and West. The brand also gained incremental distribution in certain channels, driven by innovation in reduced sugar juice box formats. Regarding the production issues noted earlier, certain mechanical problems on our North Carolina single-serve line resulted in a production shutdown of approximately 20 days, while managing end-of-life assets at our existing New Jersey facility caused temporary disruptions and suboptimal production levels. We quickly mitigated these disruptions by shifting productions to other facilities, including to Canada.

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

While these measures increased conversion and transportation costs, they also limited our ability to pursue certain growth opportunities, particularly in single-serve formats that continue to outperform the category. As for our new facility in New Jersey, we remain on track to begin the gradual transfer of production activities and the initial test runs near the end of the fourth quarter, with the transition continuing through most of 2027. Turning to slide six for our Canadian beverage activities. This quarter, we sustained our market leadership despite category volume declines, underscoring the strength of our Canadian beverage portfolio. We also maintained disciplined pricing and promotional practices that preserved our competitiveness while adapting to shifts in consumer behavior. Our national brands were up against a strong prior-year comparison, but Oasis delivered further volume and market share gains in the chilled category, while shelf-stable volumes were affected by changes in retailers' promotional strategies.

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

Meanwhile, private label volumes remained soft, primarily reflecting changes in a major customer's go-to-market strategy, as well as our planned portfolio optimization actions, including the discontinuation of selected product lines. Moving on to food service on slide seven. North America volume growth remained constrained as macroeconomic pressures continued to weigh on away-from-home dining. Nevertheless, our overall volumes remained relatively steady, with new concentrate business from national accounts offsetting broader market softness. As for bag-in-box, we continued ramping up volumes with a prominent Canadian-based QSR chain, meeting or exceeding expectations, and we are now introducing innovations to support seasonal menu items. We also launched a new offering with a U.S. provider of automated beverage dispensing solutions using our aseptic packaging platform. Reflecting our growth presence in food service, I'm proud to share that we received two important industry honors.

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

First, we were named one of Sysco Canada's top 10 suppliers out of more than 1,500, and we were the only beverage supplier recognized. Second, Gordon Food Service recognized us through its 2026 VIP awards, which honor key partners across North America. These awards reflect our ability to meet the high standards of an industry where consistency, dependable service, and responsiveness to customer needs are essential. Now, let's turn to specialty food on slide eight. North American industry volumes remain soft across most of our product categories. At the same time, consumer demand became increasingly polarized, with some consumers trading up as an alternative to dining out and others prioritizing more affordable, value-oriented options. That said, our core premium and super premium pasta sauce subcategories continue to outperform the market, with third-party brands delivering volume growth in both the U.S. and Canada, supported by earlier distribution gains.

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

As for our brands, G. Hughes non-barbecue better-for-you specialty sauces performed very well, delivering double-digit sales growth, driven by a new brand campaign and innovation in Asian-inspired sauces, while facing greater competitive pressure in the U.S. barbecue sauce category. In Canada, G. Hughes delivered strong performance as we continue to expand the brand's reach. It is now available at 10 of Canada's leading food retailers, and building G. Hughes into a leading North America better-for-you brand remains a priority. I now turn the call over to Francis for a review of quarter three results. Francis.

Francis Trudeau
Francis Trudeau
CFO at Lassonde Industries

Thank you, Vince. Good morning, everyone. Let's turn to slide nine. Third quarter sales totaled CAD 713 million versus CAD 724 million last year. Excluding a favorable foreign exchange effect, sales decreased by 2.3%. The reduction reflects the impact of the change in promotional strategies of certain retailers, the discontinuation of low-margin or non-strategic product lines at our Canadian beverage business, suboptimal production level at our New Jersey and North Carolina plants, and general category trends. On the other hand, we benefited from a more favorable sales mix. Please move to slide 10. Gross profit amounted to CAD 206 million, up from CAD 198 million a year ago. Excluding a favorable foreign exchange impact, it rose CAD 5.4 million, or 3%, reflecting a decrease in orange and apple commodity cost and a positive shift in the sales mix.

Francis Trudeau
Francis Trudeau
CFO at Lassonde Industries

These factors were partly offset by higher conversion costs, mainly due to the temporary equipment issues mentioned earlier, higher PET resin costs, and lower sales volumes. SG&A expense were CAD 149 million, up CAD 9 million versus last year, mainly due to higher transportation costs to deliver products to clients and an increase in selling, marketing, and certain administrative expenses. Excluding items impacting comparability, Adjusted EBITDA was CAD 84 million, or 11.7% of sales, versus CAD 86 million, or 11.9% of sales last year. Turning to slide 11 for profit. Excluding items impacting comparability, adjusted profit attributable to the corporation's shareholders totaled CAD 41 million, or CAD 5.94 per share, up 2% from CAD 40 million, or CAD 5.84 last year. Let's turn to working capital on slide 12.

Francis Trudeau
Francis Trudeau
CFO at Lassonde Industries

At the end of Q3, the days operating working capital ratio stood at 50 days versus 46 days three months earlier. While the ratio remained within our normal seasonal range, the sequential variation reflects lower days of payable outstanding. Please note that we also expect year-end working capital to remain within historical range. Now, on to slide 13 for cash flows. Operating activities generated CAD 63 million in Q3 2026 compared to CAD 118 million last year. The variation comes from working capital requirements of CAD 1.4 million this year, as opposed to CAD 51 million release last year. CapEx totaled CAD 55 million in the quarter, and they are still projected to reach up 7% of sales in 2026, including approximately $87 million for the New Jersey project.

Francis Trudeau
Francis Trudeau
CFO at Lassonde Industries

Looking ahead to 2027, residual investment to complete the New Jersey facility should result in CapEx being above historical range, but below 2026 as a percentage of sales. Turning to our financial position on slide 14. Lassonde's net debt was CAD 456 million at the end of the third quarter, relatively stable from CAD 451 million three months earlier, as operating cash flow generation was offset by CapEx and dividends. As a result, the net debt to Adjusted EBITDA ratio was 1.25 to 1 at the end of the quarter, compared to 1.22 to 1 three months earlier.

Francis Trudeau
Francis Trudeau
CFO at Lassonde Industries

All things being equal, we expect the leverage ratio to remain well below our internal maximum threshold of 3.25 to 1. As for our share repurchase program, since reinstating our normal course issuer bid in August, we have repurchased more than 68,000 shares to-date for a total consideration of CAD 15.8 million.

Francis Trudeau
Francis Trudeau
CFO at Lassonde Industries

As a reminder, the program allows us to repurchase up to 200,000 shares over a 12-month period. Before turning the call back to Vince, with less than two months remaining in fiscal 2026, we will provide an outlook extending into early 2027. Please turn to slide 15. In the coming months, we expect consumer demand and volumes to remain under pressure as affordability concerns continue to influence purchasing behaviors. As a result, we reiterate our view that fiscal 2026 sales will be slightly below last year's level, excluding the impact of foreign exchange. In addition, in relation with the asset impairment announced in the previous quarter, 2027 sales will reflect contractual changes with one important specialty food customer. We have already secured approximately 70% replacement volume for 2027 and remain in active discussion for the balance. However, uncertainty remains about our ability to replace that volume at historical business terms.

Francis Trudeau
Francis Trudeau
CFO at Lassonde Industries

On the cost side, higher crude oil prices are expected to continue putting pressure on transportation and PET resin costs. Partially offsetting these pressures, we continue to expect the benefit from favorable commodity costs. Moving to slide 16. Conversion costs in our U.S. beverage network may also remain higher for the balance of 2026 and early 2027 for two main reasons. First, managing end-of-life production assets at our existing facility in New Jersey may result in suboptimal production levels. Temporary disruption, similar to those experienced in Q3, may occur until the transfer of the new facility is complete. Please note that as we begin transferring production later in the fourth quarter, we expect to incur usual startup costs. We intend to classify these items impacting comparability between periods and exclude them from Adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EPS.

Francis Trudeau
Francis Trudeau
CFO at Lassonde Industries

Second, although the situation in North Carolina is improving, we continue to prudently operate a single serve line at a reduced run rate. We have temporarily shifted some production to other facilities until we reach a normal cadence, but these mitigation measures are also resulting in higher freight costs. That concludes my section. I turn the call back to Vince for the conclusion. Vince?

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

Thank you, Francis. Please turn to slide 17. Our performance to date in 2026 demonstrates the resilience of our business and the effectiveness of the actions we have taken to deliver sustainable profitability. While external pressures from a challenging macroeconomic and geopolitical environment may affect consumer spending, input costs, and supply dynamics, our focus remains clear: leverage the strength, depth, and breadth of our portfolio and execute on the levers within our control, including optimizing our commodity exposure through product innovation, maintaining price discipline, and implementing targeted cost initiatives to protect margins. Turning to slide 18 for our priorities. Our immediate focus is on executing a successful production transfer in New Jersey. We are very excited with the upcoming start of this facility that represents an important milestone in strengthening our manufacturing footprint and enhancing our competitive position in the U.S. market.

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

The other priority for our U.S. beverage business is to restore normal operations in North Carolina to capture growth opportunities in single-serve formats. As for our Canadian beverage business, our priority remains fortifying our leadership by stepping up our innovation agenda to stimulate growth in emerging beverage segments and strengthening execution across our core channels through disciplined revenue management and sustained investments in our brands. In Food Service, we will build on our recent gains to drive further volume growth with broad-line distributors and national accounts. Finally, in specialty food, we are focused on refining the positioning of our branded products and strengthening our position by further diversifying our customer base and product portfolio by backfilling available capacity following changes with one important customer. Notably, the majority of the replacement volume secured to-date comes from new third-party relationships.

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

In closing, on slide 19, while we continue to navigate near-term challenges, Lassonde remains a strong organization built around passionate and innovative people. Supported by ongoing investments in our network, a diversified portfolio of leading brands, deep customer relationships, and disciplined execution, we are well-positioned to capture medium and long-term opportunities to drive sustainable growth in the North America food and beverage market. This concludes our prepared remarks. We are now pleased to answer your questions.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To join the question queue, you may press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. You will hear a tone acknowledging your request. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing any keys. To withdraw your question, press star, then two. We will pause for a moment as callers join the queue. The first question comes from Ahmed Abdullah with National Bank of Canada. Please go ahead.

Ahmed Abdullah
Ahmed Abdullah
Analyst at National Bank of Canada

Yes, good morning, and thanks for taking my question. Just touching on the plant disruption costs, is it possible to quantify the Q3 EBITDA impact from the North Carolina and New Jersey disruptions there, and how much of that should kind of linger into the fourth quarter?

Francis Trudeau
Francis Trudeau
CFO at Lassonde Industries

So we do not. Hi, Ahmed. So we do not disclose that. However, I would lead you to our comments on what happened in the quarter. Conversion costs and freight have been the two main components, and look at our margin impact there, and you could assume that that had a significant impact in the quarter.

Ahmed Abdullah
Ahmed Abdullah
Analyst at National Bank of Canada

Okay, that is fair. And if you expect that to kind of.

Francis Trudeau
Francis Trudeau
CFO at Lassonde Industries

Is that going to continue in Q4? As we alluded in our outlook section, there is a risk there, and that is why we have put it there specifically. As we are working on solving the issue, we are still at the suboptimal productions right now.

Ahmed Abdullah
Ahmed Abdullah
Analyst at National Bank of Canada

Okay, that is fair. Thanks for the color. On the specialty food replacement economics that you touched on, with approximately 70% of the volume secured, how much of the associated earnings contributions have you replaced, and can you give us a bit more color through the remaining risk that spills into the 2027 profitability?

Francis Trudeau
Francis Trudeau
CFO at Lassonde Industries

Yeah. On that front, in the last quarter, we said it was going to start having impact Q3, Q4 this year, which we started to see. That is number one. We are doing a good job on the top line side, as in the last few months, replacing 70%, as you said. The thing that we have put in our comments there is a risk in terms of replacing at similar business terms the volume. That is something right now that we see having an impact in Q4 and early 2027, as we said in our outlook section.

Ahmed Abdullah
Ahmed Abdullah
Analyst at National Bank of Canada

Okay. And just finally, just touching on private label demand, the weakness that we saw, can you perhaps give us a bit more color between what drove that? Is it the deliberate portfolio exits, customers changes, or the demand, and which components do you expect to kind of improve as the operations normalize?

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

Yeah. Ahmed, it is Vince. The situation on private label is fairly similar whether you look at Canada or the U.S. The first thing is clearly it is being impacted by the same category headwinds that the total category is experiencing. When you look at the Canadian business, volumes are down about -5% on a total basis, in the U.S. about -3%. So category volume performance remains stubborn in this inflationary environment. The other thing that is happening, though, is shifts in retailer strategies, and I will give you two perspectives on this. More broadly speaking, what you are seeing, in particular in Canada, is a shift from promo high-low to EDLP. And so that is having some impact on performance, in particular when you face that off against brands looking at promotions as a means to deal with the issue of affordability.

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

Those are the things that I would say in Canada. From a U.S. perspective, the additional thing that I would add to it is you are seeing consumers be much more selective in channels in which they participate. When you take a look at the makeup of the business and the importance of grocery, you are starting to see shifts away from the grocery channel, into discount for sure, but in the U.S. you are looking at mass and club, which are more on the winning side as part of this. I would say that is how I would describe it in terms of what you are seeing. The persistence to which that is going to continue, there is a question on just how persistent the category declines are going to be.

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

What I would assume is that some of the issues that we are seeing this year from a volume perspective tied to these retailer strategies, we should be able to cycle those when you come into 2027, looking over 2026.

Francis Trudeau
Francis Trudeau
CFO at Lassonde Industries

If I may add, in terms of your second question, in terms of what we are planning to improve, I think you saw in the quarter, the sales mix having a positive impact. We have started in the last few months and last few years, to work on our portfolio and innovation to be allowed to better meet customer demand and the change in customer habits. That is something we are doing, and that shows positive results. As we said in our results in this quarter, that added a significant impact. On top of that, I would say, in terms of distribution, our away-from-home segment is something that we are working on. In terms of positioning ourself also in outside traditional retailers is also something we are working on to offset this trend in the market right now.

Ahmed Abdullah
Ahmed Abdullah
Analyst at National Bank of Canada

Thanks for the color. I will queue back up.

Operator

Your next question comes from Martin Landry with Stifel. Please go ahead.

Martin Landry
Martin Landry
Analyst at Stifel

Hi. Good morning, guys. I was wondering if you could expand a little bit on what has happened in North Carolina. I think you said that a 20-day downtime, which is pretty important. Is that the new line that was just established last year?

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

Martin, it's Vince. Yes, it is. It was down for about 20 days. What I can say to you, though, is that it's an equipment challenge that we've been dealing with. We see it as temporary. We're seeing improvements, but we're trying to be very prudent in the planning. We've got redundancy in our network that we're continuing to leverage to make sure that we can still satisfy demand of our existing customer base. The real challenge for us is, to what extent does it sort of dampen our ability to pursue growth? I think what's important here is we see it as temporary. We're seeing improvements in that at this stage.

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

As Francis said, the challenge as well for us is this notion of it comes at a cost, whether you're dealing with freight from other markets into the U.S. marketplace when it's coming out of Canada, and overhead absorption challenges in North Carolina at the same time. It's an equipment challenge.

Francis Trudeau
Francis Trudeau
CFO at Lassonde Industries

I would add also, Vince, it comes at a cost of not being able to capture some growth opportunities. While we are very resilient and able to offload to other plants, it affects our ability to plan in advance. That is also affected the results of the quarter.

Martin Landry
Martin Landry
Analyst at Stifel

Yeah. Okay. It would have been great to have a little bit of an idea of the magnitude of all this on revenues and earnings, but if it is something you do not want to share, that is fine. Just to be clear, I understand that the New Jersey facility will be suboptimal heading into 2027. Is the North Carolina situation, will that be resolved by year-end?

Francis Trudeau
Francis Trudeau
CFO at Lassonde Industries

Yes.

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

Yes.

Martin Landry
Martin Landry
Analyst at Stifel

Okay. Vince, you gave some interesting numbers. Industry volumes down 5% in Canada, down 3% in the U.S.

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

Roughly.

Martin Landry
Martin Landry
Analyst at Stifel

Yeah. Can you contrast that with your volumes? Just to understand if it sounds like you have been gaining shares. I would just like to have a little bit more color on that.

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

If you take a look at the U.S. market, I will start there. We are gaining share on a branded side. We have had real success with the Apple & Eve brand, in particular with the reduced sugar format. We are really pleased with what we are seeing on that front. I already shared with you perspectives from a private label view. When you take a look at Canada volumes, it is the same message that I delivered prior, which is category headwinds. There is an impact that I noted in my script in terms of a retailer strategy that is having an impact on performance. A real shift away from frequency of promotion as well as depth of promotion that we would have benefited from, and that is one of the things that the Canadian business is dealing with. As I mentioned earlier, call it a reset.

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

That reset is nearly complete, and we will be able to cycle that when we look into 2027. We are pleased with some of the performance that we are seeing in Canada, though, as well. When you take a look at our share performance, solid performance in chilled in particular over the last four weeks, really solid improvements that we are seeing in there. Obviously, the team has been very, very focused on leveraging mix because of a really diverse portfolio to try to address some of these category headwinds. But primarily speaking, I would draw it back to some of the things that we are seeing on the promotional front.

Martin Landry
Martin Landry
Analyst at Stifel

Okay. Okay, just to summarize, there is a lot in there. Just to summarize

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

Yeah

Martin Landry
Martin Landry
Analyst at Stifel

Are you gaining share in Canada? Because you do say that you are gaining share for Oasis in chilled category, but are you gaining share for Oasis overall, or are you losing?

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

So, what I would say to you, when you take a look at the total business, I would say, first of all, over the past short while, you would have seen a decline in share. But when you take a look at our share performance relative to 2024, it is above 2024 levels. And so you are clearly seeing some adjustments from that 2024 period because we had some one-time benefits in 2025. So overall, I am pleased with the performance of the business. And again, when I talk at the last four weeks, we are also seeing some improvements in our share position.

Martin Landry
Martin Landry
Analyst at Stifel

Okay. Okay, and then in the U.S., you did say that you are seeing customers shifting away from traditional grocers and moving into mass and club. What is your exposure to mass and club in the U.S.? Are you underexposed, overexposed? Can you benefit from that trend of customer shifting?

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

I would say we are fairly evenly exposed. I mean, but clearly what we are going to be doing is taking a look at what we do to maximize some of the shifts that are taking place in that market. I mean, that is what we continue to do. We have got a diverse portfolio. We are fairly well represented across all the channels, but if the consumers start to shift, we need to make sure that we are doing what we must be doing to participate in that shift, of which that is really where the focus is. But I would say evenly exposed.

Martin Landry
Martin Landry
Analyst at Stifel

Okay. Okay, perfect. Thank you and best of luck.

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

Thank you. Thank you.

Operator

Once again, if you have a question, please press star then one. Your next question comes from Eric Zhu with Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.

Eric Zhu
Eric Zhu
Analyst at Canaccord Genuity

Thank you very much and good morning. This is Eric on for Luke Hannan. Most of my questions have already been asked, but I wanted to maybe dig into the numbers. So in your sales breakdown on slide nine, you said private label was down CAD 21 million on volumes. Considering you previously said that your SKU cut in private label was roughly CAD 7 million-CAD 8 million impact per quarter, is the CAD 13 million balance mostly due to the change in that one Canadian customer's go-to-market strategy? Also wanting to ask about what is the nature of that.

Francis Trudeau
Francis Trudeau
CFO at Lassonde Industries

You get it, Eric. That is the main reason for it. I would say on top of that, the discontinuation of selected product line that we announced in previous quarters also fits in that category of private label. Those are the two main elements that should be considered there.

Eric Zhu
Eric Zhu
Analyst at Canaccord Genuity

Got it. Thank you very much. I also wanted to just get your color on the spread between private label and branded. Has that changed over the past few quarters from the last time that you looked at it?

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

Can you repeat the question?

Eric Zhu
Eric Zhu
Analyst at Canaccord Genuity

Oh, yeah. Sorry. I wanted to ask about the spread, the value spread between private label and branded, considering the current consumer environment is very value-seeking. I wanted to get your color on that.

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

The spread primarily has not changed.

Eric Zhu
Eric Zhu
Analyst at Canaccord Genuity

Got it.

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

Materially.

Eric Zhu
Eric Zhu
Analyst at Canaccord Genuity

Okay. Finally, I wanted to. In your MD&A, you noted pasta sauce has been very good in Canada. It's grown mid-single digit versus industry, which has been declining. Is there anything that you wanted to highlight about that? Why are you growing pasta sauce shares in Canada?

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

One of the things that you're seeing is there's growth in, call it the premium to super premium segment, and our participation in that with the brands that we pack for are performing exceptionally well. We've got strong brands that we pack for, and like I said, it's participating in a category that is a segment within the category that is outpacing the category average, and that's really why we're seeing the growth that we're seeing there.

Eric Zhu
Eric Zhu
Analyst at Canaccord Genuity

Got it. Thank you very much. Finally, I wanted to ask about, given the lags where you experienced tailwinds and headwinds in raw material prices due to your hedging strategy, could you quantify kind of like the benefit that you will be seeing due to lower orange and apple concentrates maybe in Q4 or 2027?

Francis Trudeau
Francis Trudeau
CFO at Lassonde Industries

Yeah, it is tough to quantify that, Eric, because it has been in the market for already a while, and these things, there is always a lag in the market when low commodities get in. There are purchase price adjustment mechanisms that are in place right now. Today, what we are seeing is difficult to predict because you cannot just look at an isolation, like orange and apple concentrate. You need to look at versus other elements like freight and PET resin costs, which have suffered massive inflation since June last year. So the benefit on one side of commodity has been offset significantly by other elements. So to quantify only one side is difficult.

Francis Trudeau
Francis Trudeau
CFO at Lassonde Industries

So that is the main element right now, but you are right that we have been on the right side in terms of commodity costs for the last few months, and that is why we put that elasticity and the commodity management is going to be important for us in terms of the outlook period that we announced.

Eric Zhu
Eric Zhu
Analyst at Canaccord Genuity

That is great. Thank you very much for all of the color. Best of luck.

Francis Trudeau
Francis Trudeau
CFO at Lassonde Industries

Thanks a lot.

Operator

Your next question comes from Frederic Tremblay with Desjardins Securities. Please go ahead.

Frederic Tremblay
Frederic Tremblay
Analyst at Desjardins Securities

Thanks. Good morning. Just given the disruptions at the existing New Jersey facility that you saw recently, do you think it would be worth considering an acceleration of the transfer to the new facility? I mean, because your current timeline of the transition happening through most of 2027 does seem to present some risk of further disruptions over the next 12 months. Perhaps operationally it's not feasible to accelerate that, but just wanted to see how you think about mitigating risk associated with the legacy facility there.

Francis Trudeau
Francis Trudeau
CFO at Lassonde Industries

Yeah. Frederic, we would love to do it, and we're looking forward to transfer it in our new facility. We're managing end-of-life equipment. Unfortunately, it's not feasible as the plant is being built as we speak. As we said in previous quarter, and we're still on time, on budget, we are going through test runs right now, and we are end of fiscal 2026 is going to be the period where we're going to start launching the new plant. This transition is going to happen, as we said, towards most of 2027, as the multi-lines that's going to be transferred are going to be sequential from one plant to the other. In some period of time, both plants will run in parallel. Unfortunately, we cannot accelerate it, but right now, we're on plan and everything is working well.

Francis Trudeau
Francis Trudeau
CFO at Lassonde Industries

We'd love to. The teams are looking forward to just move away from that, but it's not something we could do. We're November 6th today, so we're coming at that point of time where we're going to start transitioning.

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

Hey, Frederic, it's Vince. I'm just going to build on something Francis said. I know it doesn't really get to your question, which is, can you accelerate? The answer is no, even as much as we would like to do that. Having said that, I want to remind that this is a major investment, a $200 million U.S. Investment, and the project remains on track and on budget. Lines are there. The team is getting ready to do first runs at the end of December, early January. We're quite pleased with the progress that this major project has taken on.

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

In the meantime, we're going to continue to manage as effectively as we can some of this end-of-life equipment challenge that we've dealt with in New Jersey, and continue to manage and leverage the existing network where we believe there's some redundancy to ensure that we can satisfy existing customer demand.

Frederic Tremblay
Frederic Tremblay
Analyst at Desjardins Securities

That's helpful. Thanks for that color. Last question for me would be, just given the demand environment that we're seeing now that remains under pressure, curious to see, Vince, if from your experience, from an industry perspective, would you expect behaviors to be promotional over a prolonged period of time, or does margin discipline take priority generally? Just wanted to get your views on how you would expect the industry to react over the next few quarters.

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

It's a fair question, Frederic. I would say right now, this is a very uncertain environment that we're still participating in. You've got commodity gains that are offset by other fuel and freight cost as a result of the Middle East crisis. You have the uncertainty on tariffs. The view is that until we feel more certain about the future, you would anticipate that what we're seeing is what we're going to continue to see, at least for the foreseeable future. What does that mean? It does mean we've got to maintain pricing discipline. It's really important. But recognizing the category declines, being really smart about how it is that we appeal to these shifts in consumer behaviors.

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

I've always said that one of the real powers of Lassonde is the diversity of the portfolio, and being able to leverage that portfolio, whether it's from a product pack or channel perspective, to be able to shift and participate, as I said in my prior answer, where the consumer is going. Your question on promotions, my view is that there's going to continue to be focus on smart promotions to be able to appeal to that value-seeking consumer. So, more in discount, more in mass, more in club, obviously doing the things that we need to do from a promotional perspective in grocery, but that's where I think the focus is going to be.

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

The additional thing as well is ensuring that not only we're managing that from a mix perspective, that we continue to introduce innovative products that add unique value that consumers are seeking out and are willing to pay for. That is a real focus for us. As we move into 2027, you're going to hear us talk more about that as a means to stimulate category performance further.

Frederic Tremblay
Frederic Tremblay
Analyst at Desjardins Securities

Very helpful. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes the question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Vince Timpano for any closing remarks.

Vince Timpano
Vince Timpano
CEO at Lassonde Industries

Thank you, operator, and thank you for joining us this morning. We look forward to speaking with you again at our next quarterly call. Have a great day and have a great weekend, everybody.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect your lines. Thank you and have a nice day.

Executives
    • Vince Timpano
      Vince Timpano
      CEO
    • Francis Trudeau
      Francis Trudeau
      CFO
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