Pediatrix Medical Group Q4 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Strong operating performance: Q4 adjusted EBITDA was $66 million and full-year 2025 adjusted EBITDA was $276 million, with 2026 guidance of $280–$300 million (midpoint about 5% above 2025) assuming steady metrics.
  • Positive Sentiment: Healthy balance sheet and cash generation: the company ended Q4 with $375 million cash, net debt just over $220 million (~<1.0x net leverage), generated $115 million operating cash flow in Q4 and repurchased 2.9 million shares for ~$64 million.
  • Neutral Sentiment: Top-line outlook is conservative: Pediatrix expects full-year 2026 revenue of about $1.9 billion, essentially flat to 2025, and has not included any contribution from M&A in that outlook.
  • Negative Sentiment: Policy risk: management warned that a lapse or change in ACA subsidies could negatively affect payer mix and revenue, but said the impact is currently difficult to quantify.
  • Positive Sentiment: Strategic investments in clinicians and growth: new multi-year physician alignment bonuses and the inaugural "Pediatrix Partners" stock-tracking grants, plus focus on telemedicine and expanding OB hospitalist and NICU/MFM footprint, aim to boost quality, retention, and future growth.
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Earnings Conference Call
Pediatrix Medical Group Q4 2025
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Operator

Hello, and thank you for standing by. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Q4 2025 Pediatrix Medical Group, Inc. earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star, followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, again, press the star one. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mary Ann Moore, Chief Administrative Officer and General Counsel. You may begin.

Mary Ann Moore
Mary Ann Moore
Chief Administrative Officer and General Counsel at Pediatrix Medical Group

Thank you, operator, and good morning. Certain statements and information during this call may be deemed to be forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are based on assumptions and assessments made by Pediatrix management in light of their experience and assessment of historical trends, current conditions, expected future developments, and other factors they believe to be appropriate. Any forward-looking statements made during this call are made as of today, and Pediatrix undertakes no duty to update or revise any such statements, whether as a result of new information, future event, events, or otherwise. Important factors that could cause actual results, developments, and business decisions to differ materially from forward-looking statements are described in the company's filings with the SEC, including the sections entitled Risk Factors. In today's remarks by management, we will be discussing non-GAAP financial metrics.

Mary Ann Moore
Mary Ann Moore
Chief Administrative Officer and General Counsel at Pediatrix Medical Group

A reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP measures can be found in this morning's earnings press release, our quarterly and annual report, and on our website at www.pediatrix.com. With that, I will turn the call over to Mark Ordan, our Chief Executive Officer.

Mark Ordan
Mark Ordan
CEO at Pediatrix Medical Group

Thanks, Mary Ann, and good morning, everyone. Also with me today is Kasandra Rossi, our Chief Financial Officer. Our Q4 results were quite strong and capped an equally strong 2025. Our adjusted EBITDA of $66 million was in line with our upwardly adjusted guidance. Throughout 2025, including the Q4, strong volume, acuity, and payer mix, combined with strong financial control, gave rise to these results. During this time, we welcomed new leaders in key areas of the company, all of whom are dedicated in some way to focusing on care quality, which of course, is the very essence of Pediatrix. With these investments in record practice bonuses, our full-year adjusted EBITDA was a very strong $276 million.

Mark Ordan
Mark Ordan
CEO at Pediatrix Medical Group

We expect our results in 2026 to be in the range of $280 million-$300 million, which at its midpoint, of course, is 5% above 2025. This projection assumes steady metrics, including volume, acuity, and payer mix, and recent or early results support this outlook. Despite these steady metrics on our top line, we have several operational initiatives which we believe will flow favorably to our adjusted EBITDA. We have said that we assume that there was some payer mix benefit in 2025 from ACA subsidies. If those continue to lapse with no effective remedy, we would expect some effect. And as we have said before, this is very difficult to quantify such an effect because there are many possible outcomes. Kasandra will now provide some additional details on the quarter and preliminary outlook for 2026.

Kasandra Rossi
Kasandra Rossi
CFO at Pediatrix Medical Group

Thanks, Mark, and good morning, everyone. Our consolidated revenue decrease was driven by net non-same-unit activity of $26 million, including a decrease in revenue from our portfolio restructuring, partially offset by an increase in revenue from acquisition and organic growth. This decrease was partially offset by same-unit growth of 4%, with same-unit pricing up just under 7% and overall patient service volumes down just under 3%. Pricing was driven by solid RCM cash collections, favorable payer mix, increased patient acuity in neonatology, and an increase in contract administrative fees. And while we saw volume declines across all our service lines during the quarter, including NICU days down about 2%, we were up against a tough comp. Practice-level SW&B expenses declined slightly year-over-year, reflecting our portfolio restructuring activity, partially offset by same-unit increases.

Kasandra Rossi
Kasandra Rossi
CFO at Pediatrix Medical Group

On a same-unit basis, we saw increases in variable practice incentive compensation and salary and benefits. Salary growth for the Q4 was modestly below the ranges that we have seen for the prior six quarters. Those averaged around 3%. Our G&A expense increased year-over-year, driven by a modest increase in salary expense as well as some travel expenses. D&A expense decreased year-over-year, resulting from lower overall CapEx and an increase in fully depreciated assets. Other non-operating expense decreased year-over-year, driven by higher interest income on cash balances and a decrease in interest expense on modestly lower average borrowings at slightly lower rates. Moving on to cash flow.

Kasandra Rossi
Kasandra Rossi
CFO at Pediatrix Medical Group

We generated $115 million in operating cash flow in the Q4, compared to $135 million in the prior year, primarily related to decreases in cash flow from AP and accrued and other liabilities. We also deployed $64 million of capital during the quarter to buy 2.9 million shares of our stock, leaving us with just about 83 million shares outstanding. We ended the quarter with cash of $375 million and net debt of just over $220 million. This reflects net leverage of just under 1x. Our AR DSO at December 31 of 42.8 days were down slightly from September 30, but were down almost five days year-over-year, driven by improved cash collections at our existing units.... Moving on to our preliminary 2026 outlook that Mark noted earlier.

Kasandra Rossi
Kasandra Rossi
CFO at Pediatrix Medical Group

This outlook contemplates full-year revenue of approximately $1.9 billion, in line with 2025. It also contemplates full-year G&A expense in the range of $230 million-$240 million, compared to our 2025 G&A of $241 million. Achieving the middle of the range would put it down about 20 basis points as a percent of revenue. I'll also note the normal seasonality of our quarterly results. Within our expectations of full-year adjusted EBITDA, we anticipate that our Q1 2026 adjusted EBITDA will represent about 17%-19% of that annual expected range. Historically, the Q1 adjusted EBITDA has ranged from 17%-21% of the full year.

Kasandra Rossi
Kasandra Rossi
CFO at Pediatrix Medical Group

We have also not factored any contribution to our results from M&A activity in 2026, and we plan to update you on the timing and magnitude of any potential additions. I'll now turn the call back over to Mark.

Mark Ordan
Mark Ordan
CEO at Pediatrix Medical Group

Thanks, Kasandra. Our very strong balance sheet and cash flow enable us to invest in quality and clinical support and to attract and retain the finest clinicians in each of our areas of concentration. In the Q4, we introduced two new programs to further align our physicians at Pediatrix. The first program provides a portion of the physician's cash bonus and a stock price tracking element that is paid out over multiple years. This program is a first step for us toward creating greater alignment across the entire organization, and we hope to expand it in the future. More than 500 physicians are participating in this program in its first year, and we expect this to create greater awareness of, and responsibility for, our collaborative role in delivering best-in-class care. We are also excited to announce Pediatrix Partners.

Mark Ordan
Mark Ordan
CEO at Pediatrix Medical Group

This is a group of 46 physicians from across our specialties who have received a stock price tracking grant to recognize their leadership role, along with future efforts to help guide our decisions in quality, hospital relations, recruiting and retention, and growth. We anticipate annually adding physicians to this inaugural class. Looking into 2026 and beyond, we see many areas of potential opportunity. With our great physical footprint, we have the ability to leverage advanced telemedicine. This can provide vital assistance and care to people who are currently out of reach and can be a bridge to our national in-person care presence. As we speak, we are looking at additional growth opportunities in our physical core, both in NICUs and maternal-fetal medicine, along with OBH.

Mark Ordan
Mark Ordan
CEO at Pediatrix Medical Group

On OBH, we have a very strong presence in OB hospital medicine, and we see very strong demand for us to really increase our presence here. Remember, our long-established hospital relations, thanks to our NICU, PICU, and MFM practices, provide an obvious entree here. Given our existing physical presence and dedicated overhead already, we believe we can provide a cost advantage to our hospital partners. We love this space we are in, and we enjoy our leadership position. We're also very aware of opportunities outside of our pediatrics and obstetrics space. We assure you that we will guard our balance sheet strength carefully and only consider other opportunities that do not dilute our great strength in pediatrics and obstetrics. In our core areas in pediatrics and obstetrics, we see many viable growth avenues.

Mark Ordan
Mark Ordan
CEO at Pediatrix Medical Group

We are uniquely positioned, have the financial strength and discipline to accomplish this, and we are determined to do all we can to achieve smart growth. Operator, I'd like to now turn the call over to questions.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press star one again. Your first question comes from the line of Ryan Daniels with William Blair. Your line is open.

Matthew Mardula
Matthew Mardula
Equity Research Analyst at William Blair

Hello, this is Matthew Mardula on for Ryan Daniels. Thank you so much for taking my question. I know in your prepared remarks, you said full year revenue of $1.9 billion for 2026. Could you kind of give us the drivers of that revenue growth? Any color into the expectations for facility volume growth or pricing expectations for the 2026 year would be great to hear about.

Kasandra Rossi
Kasandra Rossi
CFO at Pediatrix Medical Group

Hey, Matthew. So really, this overall assumes that we are going to be flat, both in volume and in pricing. While there will be some kind of ups and downs within the components that are part of pricing, overall, we do expect those to be pretty flat.

Matthew Mardula
Matthew Mardula
Equity Research Analyst at William Blair

Great. Okay. Thank you for that. Then with the negative patient volume year-over-year this quarter, is there anything you could call out regarding kind of what happened there? I know you previously mentioned it's difficult to call out one exact factor or one reason why, but kind of with the strong volume we have seen the past couple of quarters, is there any color we could hear about with what happened this quarter? Thanks.

Kasandra Rossi
Kasandra Rossi
CFO at Pediatrix Medical Group

No, it really-- that's about the comp, and so we tried to mention that the volume being down this quarter was really, it's because the comp was fairly tough from the Q4 of last year.

Matthew Mardula
Matthew Mardula
Equity Research Analyst at William Blair

Great. Thank you so much for all those insights.

Kasandra Rossi
Kasandra Rossi
CFO at Pediatrix Medical Group

You're welcome, Matthew. Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jack Slevin with Jefferies. Your line is open.

Jack Slevin
Jack Slevin
VP of Healthcare Services Equity Research at Jefferies

... Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Well, I want to drill in a little bit on probably the quarter and the guidance as well. Maybe slightly different start on the quarter. The variable comp expense, I think we saw this in 2021, where you had a really strong year and then variable comp sort of spiked higher. I know you sort of gave a little bit of a hint at it with the wide guidance range heading into the quarter. Is there any way to quantify or talk about sort of what that was in the quarter and how that drove earnings?

Jack Slevin
Jack Slevin
VP of Healthcare Services Equity Research at Jefferies

And then the second piece, Mark, hearing your commentary on some of the changes to some of the physician or stock-based comp structures, should we think about that as something that might have a smoothing effect for this same sort of dynamic in future years?

Mark Ordan
Mark Ordan
CEO at Pediatrix Medical Group

Well, so two things. One is the, there were a variety of factors that, that led to, our Q4 operations and going into, in, into 2026. So there's no, there's really no better parsing that I, that I could, that I could provide. In, in terms of alignment, I, I would say that's really the key driver of this. It's not to achieve a smoothing effect. It's really just to make sure that over, over time, our, our doctors, who have an enormous role in our hospital relations, quality, recruiting and retention, really feel a strong tie to the company and that we have a mutual bond to each other. So that's, that's the, that's the driver of this.

Jack Slevin
Jack Slevin
VP of Healthcare Services Equity Research at Jefferies

Okay, understood. Appreciate that. And then just thinking about the guidance, I hearing your commentary, and it's been consistent over, you know, a decent period about how it's hard to quantify or for you all to parse out exchange impact or subsidy impact on your overall volumes. But I guess trying to think about the guidance, like, is there any way to understand what could possibly be embedded in the guidance for that factor? And then hearing a little bit of your commentary, it sounds like you might have said early in the year, you have indications that that sort of things are consistent. Should I take that as, like, payer mix, other sort of early indicators on this specific issue would tell you that-

Mark Ordan
Mark Ordan
CEO at Pediatrix Medical Group

No.

Jack Slevin
Jack Slevin
VP of Healthcare Services Equity Research at Jefferies

You're not really seeing a change yet?

Mark Ordan
Mark Ordan
CEO at Pediatrix Medical Group

That's exactly, that's exactly right. But, you know, we're not seeing a change yet, but the government hasn't yet figured out what the changes are in enrollment. We don't know yet whether people who said they're going to enroll are going to pay. We don't know yet what the government might do in terms of a stopgap. And then the question is, you know, what do people do? Are people going on to commercial insurance? There are so many variables that make this up. So we're, you know, obviously, our antenna is up, and I probably look twice a day and see what the government is up to. So it's just very hard to quantify. But in our guidance, we assume that we have the same metrics that we had during 2025.

Jack Slevin
Jack Slevin
VP of Healthcare Services Equity Research at Jefferies

Okay, and maybe just one follow-up, Mark or Kasandra, on that. Just like to think about pricing really strong. There really wasn't that much payer mix movement in 2025. So if I think about that flat pricing assumption, is it fair to say that, like, in the way you've built that, some of the trends on hospital, you know, hospital contract admin fees or core pricing or acuity might be balancing against, you know, some sort of implicit downside protection for an issue on exchanges? Is that a fair way to think about how you've structured that pricing assumption?

Kasandra Rossi
Kasandra Rossi
CFO at Pediatrix Medical Group

No. So I—it's not really tied to anything with the exchanges, but we did actually see some incremental favorable payer mix in 2025, although, of course, the start of the shift was in 2024. So we did see that. So really, we're just saying that we expect everything to remain pretty steady in 2026, really an average of what we saw in 2025. So that's where the guidance is based on.

Jack Slevin
Jack Slevin
VP of Healthcare Services Equity Research at Jefferies

Okay. Understood.

Mark Ordan
Mark Ordan
CEO at Pediatrix Medical Group

There are many-

Jack Slevin
Jack Slevin
VP of Healthcare Services Equity Research at Jefferies

Appreciate it.

Mark Ordan
Mark Ordan
CEO at Pediatrix Medical Group

As you know, there are many components of it, you know, from volume, acuity, basic payer mix. So we're assuming all the factors that were in 2025. We have no reason to think that any of those will change for 2026, so that's why our forecast is as it is.

Jack Slevin
Jack Slevin
VP of Healthcare Services Equity Research at Jefferies

Understood. Appreciate all the color, guys.

Operator

Once again, if you would like to ask a question, press star one to join the queue. Pick up your handset, ensure that your phone is not in mute and press mute. Question comes from the line of A.J. Rice with UBS. Your line is open.

A.J. Rice
A.J. Rice
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at UBS

Hi, everybody. So your EBITDA, at the midpoint, is supposed to grow about $14 million year-over-year in 2026, and it looks like you've got some assumptions about G&A cost reduction in there, maybe other cost reduction. Can you just flesh out a little bit more what is embedded in guidance with respect to the cost or expense side of the equation?

Mark Ordan
Mark Ordan
CEO at Pediatrix Medical Group

It's really just that. We do, we did call out, I think Kasandra called out, likely expense reduction, small scale, and that's really it. We're overall forecasting pretty much the same kind of results that we had in 2025 carrying into 2026. And just because of normal operations changes, you know, quarter to quarter, that's where we fall out. You know, we're, and as I said in my comments, there are many things that we're working on, that could affect this going forward, but nothing that we could call out, specifically at this time.

A.J. Rice
A.J. Rice
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at UBS

Yeah, I was just thinking, usually people would assume you get some kind of inflationary update in G&A, and you're actually forecasting about a $6 million decline year-over-year, which I don't know. I thought there might be something specific behind that. On the comments about capital deployment, you said no M&As embedded in the guidance. Obviously, you've got, you're doing share repurchase. Can you just give us a little flavor for how much share repurchase is anticipated in the current guidance? And then on, if you did M&A, I know you said you got the opportunity to grow in NICU, you got the opportunity with maternal-fetal medicine. Is it that type of thing, or those are just, you know, potentially bid on contracts to recruit individual doctors?

A.J. Rice
A.J. Rice
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at UBS

Is there any place where you're looking for M&A that might be a little bigger and chunkier that you would potentially consider?

Mark Ordan
Mark Ordan
CEO at Pediatrix Medical Group

Well, on the first part of your question, we assume in our guidance a small, much smaller amount of stock buyback, depending on, you know, we'll be opportunistic about that. But probably we don't anticipate at the same scale as we did in 2025. In terms of-

A.J. Rice
A.J. Rice
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at UBS

Okay.

Mark Ordan
Mark Ordan
CEO at Pediatrix Medical Group

Growth opportunities, there are really many. They range from physical practices to telemedicine. Within our space, I mentioned OB hospitalist, which is, you know, a very important program nationwide in many hospitals, and we have a real strength in that. And as I said earlier, because of our NICU relationships, maternal-fetal medicine relationships, PICU relationships across the nation, we're uniquely positioned to do that and do it in a cost-efficient way. And then, you know, and then, AJ, yes, there are lots of companies out there, many that are private equity-owned, that are looking for a new home. And I think there are a lot of people out there that are aware of our balance sheet.

Mark Ordan
Mark Ordan
CEO at Pediatrix Medical Group

You know, my team and I have certainly done deals like that over time, so we get a lot of inbound interest. We wanna balance that inbound interest with the strength of our core and make sure that we don't do anything that can take away from our core. But this is a time when it's good to have strong cash flow, a strong balance sheet, a great relationship with hospitals and be opportunistic if there's something out there that we can do.

A.J. Rice
A.J. Rice
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at UBS

Okay, all right. Thanks so much.

Mark Ordan
Mark Ordan
CEO at Pediatrix Medical Group

Thanks, AJ.

Operator

Next question comes from the line of Ann Hynes with Mizuho. Your line is open.

Ann Hynes
Ann Hynes
Managing Director and Senior Healthcare Services Equity Research Analyst at Mizuho

Great, good morning, and thank you. Can we just talk about pricing? I mean, it seemed very strong in the quarter, up around over 9%, and this is versus the 7% in Q3. I know you talked about acuity and other drivers, but it still seems very high. Can you tell us what's happening with the acuity shift, and payer mix? Just more detail on just that strength over the past couple of quarters, and how sustainable you think it is? That'd be great. Thank you.

Kasandra Rossi
Kasandra Rossi
CFO at Pediatrix Medical Group

Yeah. So for the quarter, it was actually up just under 7%, and it's, it's really the same things we've seen for the past couple of quarters. We really have strong RCM collections coming through, which, you know, was related to all the stabilization efforts that we undertook in 2025 with our, revenue cycle management transition. And then we did have, some favorable impact from payer mix that we've talked a little bit about. Acuity was also strong again, and, we did have contract administrative fees that were up a bit. So it's really the same things we've seen. And then what we anticipate is that is going to stay, you know, kinda get steady as we move into 2026. And of course, in 2026, the comps are gonna be tougher.

Mark Ordan
Mark Ordan
CEO at Pediatrix Medical Group

You know, on acuity,

Ann Hynes
Ann Hynes
Managing Director and Senior Healthcare Services Equity Research Analyst at Mizuho

Yeah. Thank you.

Mark Ordan
Mark Ordan
CEO at Pediatrix Medical Group

You know, with advanced, you know, our hospitals are known because of our NICUs to be able to handle patients that in the past you could never have handled. So I think there is certainly something that favors us because we are the leader in level three and level four NICUs around the country. And as Cassandra said, there has, you know, there's just been a real strengthening in that part of the business.

Ann Hynes
Ann Hynes
Managing Director and Senior Healthcare Services Equity Research Analyst at Mizuho

Thank you.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I will turn the call back over to Mark Ordan, CEO, for closing remarks.

Mark Ordan
Mark Ordan
CEO at Pediatrix Medical Group

Great. Thank you all very much, and have a great day.

Operator

That concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining, and you may now disconnect.

Executives
Analysts
    • A.J. Rice
      Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at UBS
    • Ann Hynes
      Managing Director and Senior Healthcare Services Equity Research Analyst at Mizuho
    • Jack Slevin
      VP of Healthcare Services Equity Research at Jefferies
    • Matthew Mardula
      Equity Research Analyst at William Blair