NYSE:MSIF MSC Income Fund Q4 2025 Earnings Report $11.60 +0.24 (+2.12%) Closing price 07/16/2026 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$11.62 +0.02 (+0.16%) As of 04:03 AM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast MSC Income Fund EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.34Consensus EPS N/ABeat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/AMSC Income Fund Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$52.10 millionExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AMSC Income Fund Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2025Date2/26/2026TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateFriday, February 27, 2026Conference Call Time11:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by MSC Income Fund Q4 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 27, 2026 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: MSC Income Fund reported a strong fourth quarter, with return on equity of 16.3%, adjusted net investment income of $0.34 per share ($0.37 pre-tax), and NAV per share rising to $15.85. Positive Sentiment: The fund generated realized gains of $16 million in the quarter, including exits from two private loan equity investments and a lower middle market holding, which helped drive the increase in NAV. Positive Sentiment: Management said the private loan pipeline is above average and that the fund’s expanded regulatory leverage capacity, effective at the end of January, should support future portfolio growth. Neutral Sentiment: The board declared a $0.35 regular dividend and $0.01 supplemental dividend, and management said it expects total quarterly dividends to remain generally aligned with pre-tax ANII per share. Neutral Sentiment: The fund’s portfolio remained well diversified at quarter-end, with 92% of the private loan book in secured debt and non-accruals at 1% of fair value, though lower benchmark rates continued to pressure interest income. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallMSC Income Fund Q4 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Greetings and welcome to the MSC Income Fund fourth quarter earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce Zach Vaughan. Please go ahead. Zach VaughanInvestor Relations at Dennard Lascar00:00:25Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for MSC Income Fund's fourth quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Joining me with prepared comments are Dwayne Hyzak, Chief Executive Officer, David Magdol, President and Chief Investment Officer, Nick Meserve, Managing Director and Head of the Private Credit Investment Group, and Cory Gilbert, Chief Financial Officer. MSC Income Fund issued a press release yesterday afternoon that details the fund's fourth quarter and full year financial and operating results. The document is available in the investor relations section of the fund's website at mscincomefund.com. A replay of today's call will be available beginning an hour after the completion of the call and will remain available until March sixth. Information on how to access the replay was included in yesterday's earnings release. Zach VaughanInvestor Relations at Dennard Lascar00:01:12I also advise that this conference call is being broadcast live to the Internet and can be accessed on the fund's homepage. Please note that information reported on this call speaks only as of today, February 27th, 2026. Therefore, you are advised that time-sensitive information may no longer be accurate at the time of any replay listening or transcript reading. Today's call may contain forward-looking statements. Many of these forward-looking statements can be identified by the use of words such as anticipates, believes, expects, intends, will, should, may, or similar expressions. Statements are based on management's estimates, assumptions, and projections as of the date of this call. There are no guarantees of future performance. Zach VaughanInvestor Relations at Dennard Lascar00:01:53Actual results may differ materially from the results expressed or implied in these statements as a result of risks, uncertainties, and other factors, including, but not limited to, the factors set forth in the fund's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which can be found on the fund's website or at sec.gov. MSC Income Fund assumes no obligation to update any of these statements unless required by law. During today's call, management will discuss non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted net investment income, or ANII. ANII is net investment income, or NII, as determined in accordance with U.S. generally accepted accounting principles, or GAAP, excluding the impact of the capital gains incentive fee. Zach VaughanInvestor Relations at Dennard Lascar00:02:35MSC Income Fund believes presenting ANII and the related per share amount is useful and appropriate supplemental disclosure for analyzing the fund's financial performance, since the calculation of the capital gains incentive fee is based on realized gains and losses and unrealized fair value appreciation and depreciation, none of which are included in NII. Please refer to yesterday's press release for a reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures. Two additional key performance indicators that management will be discussing on this call are net asset value, or NAV, and return on equity, or ROE. NAV is defined as total assets minus total liabilities and is also reported on a per share basis. MSC Income Fund defines ROE as the net increase in net assets resulting from operations divided by average quarterly NAV. Zach VaughanInvestor Relations at Dennard Lascar00:03:25As a reminder, the fund effectuated a two-for-one reverse stock split on December 16th, 2024. All per share amounts, share data, related information discussed on this call today reflect the effect of the reverse stock split. Please note that certain information discussed on this call, including information related to portfolio companies, was derived from third-party sources and has not been independently verified. I'll turn the call over to MSC Income Fund CEO, Dwayne Hyzak. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:03:52Thanks, Zach. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. We appreciate your participation on this morning's call. We hope that everyone's doing well. On today's call, we will provide you with the fund's key quarterly updates. We'll also be providing a few updates on the fund's performance for the full year. Following our comments, we'll be happy to take your questions. We're very pleased with the fund's performance in the fourth quarter, which resulted in a return on equity of 16.3%, favorable adjusted net investment income per share, and a significant increase in the fair value of the fund's investments, including the benefits of net realized gains in both the fund's private loan and lower middle market portfolios, which resulted in a significant increase in NAV per share. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:04:34The fund also produced favorable investment activity in the fourth quarter, which generated meaningful growth of its investment portfolio. After the fund's positive performance in the first three quarters of 2025, the fund's strong performance in the fourth quarter resulted in an ROE of 12.5% for the full year and pre-tax adjusted NII per share in excess of the fund's total dividends paid. Based upon the quality of the fund's existing investment portfolio, combined with the fund's expanded regulatory leverage capacity, which became effective at the end of January 2026, and which provides the fund significant capacity to add additional debt to fund the future growth of its investment portfolio, and the current attractive pipeline of new private loan investment opportunities, we remain excited about the future expectations for the fund. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:05:22We are also confident that the fund's sole focus on its private loan strategy with respect to new portfolio company investments and the growth of recurring interest income from such debt investments, together with the fund's contractual future-based management fee reductions as the fund's lower middle market investments decrease as a percentage of its total investment portfolio, will strengthen the fund's ability to deliver attractive recurring dividends and favorable total returns to the fund's shareholders in the future. The fund generated adjusted net investment income or ANII, which is NII, excluding the impact of the capital gains incentive fee of $0.34 per share in the quarter, or $0.37 per share on a pre-tax ANII basis. These results, combined with our positive outlook for the future, resulted in our most recent dividend announcements, which I will discuss in more detail later. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:06:15The fund finished the quarter with NAV per share of $15.85, a $0.31 increase from the prior quarter. We continue to be pleased with the performance of the fund's investment portfolio, including both the private loan and lower middle market portfolios. Before I will discuss our financial results in more detail. Consistent with our guidance last quarter, the fund's private loan investment activity in the fourth quarter returned to our expected normal level of quarterly activity and resulted in a net increase in private loan investments of $57 million. The fund remains highly focused on executing new investment opportunities that are consistent with its historical private loan investments as we work to grow the fund's investment portfolio. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:06:57Consistent with my comments last quarter, we're pleased that the fund successfully exited two private loan portfolio equity investments in the fourth quarter, with these activities resulting in total realized gains of $16 million, or $0.34 per share, both at meaningful premiums to the fund's third quarter fair values. The fund is also focused on maximizing the benefits from its legacy lower middle market investment portfolio and recycling this existing capital into private loan investments as investments are exited or repaid. As part of these activities, the fund fully exited its investments in one high-performing lower middle market portfolio company, Mystic Logistics, in the fourth quarter, resulting in a $6 million realized gain. We also continue to see significant interest from potential buyers in several of the fund's lower middle market portfolio companies, which we expect will lead to additional favorable realizations over the next few quarters. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:07:51The fund also continues to benefit from attractive follow-on investments in existing lower middle market portfolio companies, which we believe are beneficial to both current investment income and future value creation. Nick and David will cover the fund's investment activity in more detail. Based upon the fund's results for the quarter and its future outlook, earlier this week, the fund's board of directors declared a regular quarterly dividend of $0.35 per share and a supplemental dividend of $0.01 per share, both of which are payable on May 1st, 2026, to shareholders of record as of March 31st, 2026. Going forward, the fund expects to continue to maintain a dividend policy that provides for its total quarterly dividends, which are expected to include a regular quarterly dividend and a supplemental dividend to be set at a level generally consistent with the fund's pre-tax ANII per share. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:08:43Based upon the total dividends payable on May 1st and the current stock price, the fund is currently providing its shareholders a dividend yield of 11.5%. As we look forward to the fund's near-term investment activities, as of today, I would characterize the private loan investment pipeline as above average. We're excited about the current pipeline of new investment opportunities and follow-on investment opportunities in existing portfolio companies, and we remain confident in our ability to generate attractive new private loan investment opportunities and grow the fund's investment portfolio over the next several quarters. My last few comments are reminders of the continued support the fund has received from Main Street Capital Corporation. Main Street's wholly owned subsidiary was appointed the sole advisor to the fund in October 2020. Main Street has purchased over $27 million of the fund's common stock. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:09:33In conjunction with the fund's equity offering in January 2025, Main Street entered into an open market share purchase plan to purchase up to $20 million of the fund shares for a 12-month period beginning in March 2025, at times when the fund shares are trading at predetermined levels below the fund's NAV per share, with the terms of such plan being identical to the fund's open market share repurchase plan to purchase up to $65 million of the fund shares, with any open market share purchases being split by the fund and Main Street on a pro rata basis. Through today, Main Street has purchased over $5 million and the fund has repurchased over $18 million under these plans. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:10:15We believe Main Street's significant equity ownership in the fund and its participation in the post-listing share purchase plan demonstrates Main Street's commitment to the future success of the fund and reinforces Main Street's confidence in the strength and quality of the fund's investment portfolio and investment strategy. With that, I'll turn the call over to Nick. Nick MeserveManaging Director and Head of the Private Credit Investment Group at MSC Income Fund00:10:35Thanks, Dwayne, good morning, everyone. As Dwayne highlighted in his remarks, we are pleased with the performance of the fund's private loan investment portfolio in the fourth quarter, which represents the largest portion of the fund's investment portfolio and which, as a reminder, is now the fund's sole focus with respect to new portfolio company investments. The overall operating performance for most of the fund's private loan portfolio companies continue to be positive. Contributed to the fund's favorable fourth quarter financial results. As we previously noted, over the past few years, the fund has seen softness in certain private loan portfolio companies within the consumer space. We have been and are working on maximizing recoveries on those specific investments over the next few years. One of the favorable realized exits in the fourth quarter that Dwayne mentioned was a previously restructured portfolio company with consumer exposure. Nick MeserveManaging Director and Head of the Private Credit Investment Group at MSC Income Fund00:11:25Due to the significant efforts and successes of that portfolio company's management team, the hard work of our team, and the patience to work through a difficult situation, we ended up with a positive outcome. We expect and hope to have similar outcomes on several previously restructured investments in the future. The fund also benefited from a realized gain of $13.5 million from the exit of one of its equity investments in a private loan portfolio company in the fourth quarter, which illustrates the opportunity that can be available in the future from these equity co-investments. Given the current economic uncertainty that exists across certain parts of the economy, we are diligently working to stay in front of the fund's portfolio companies to understand their exposures to changing environments. To date, based upon these ever-evolving discussions, we are comfortable with the future outlook for the portfolio. Nick MeserveManaging Director and Head of the Private Credit Investment Group at MSC Income Fund00:12:11At quarter end, 92% of the private loan portfolio was comprised of secured debt investments, over 99% of which were first lien and 96% of which were floating rate loans. The portfolio had an attractive weighted average yield of 10.7%, which was down 130 basis points from the end of 2024, primarily as a result of decreases in the SOFR rates for these floating rate debt investments. We're also starting to see the tighter spreads on new investments start to bring down the portfolio average. During the fourth quarter, the fund invested $101 million in the private loan portfolio, which after aggregate investment activity, resulted in a net increase of $57 million. Funded in the fourth quarter investments in 81 private loan portfolio companies totaling $809 million of fair value and representing 61% of the fund's total investment portfolio at fair value. Nick MeserveManaging Director and Head of the Private Credit Investment Group at MSC Income Fund00:13:00As Dwayne mentioned, our private loan pipeline is above average. We continue to see increasing private equity activity, that is delivering both good new origination levels and replenishing the pipeline. With that, I'll turn the call over to David. David MagdolPresident and Chief Investment Officer at MSC Income Fund00:13:14Thanks, Nick. Good morning, everyone. In addition to the private loan portfolio that Nick just covered, the fund also maintains a portfolio of legacy lower middle market investments. As a reminder, these are combined debt and equity investments in smaller, privately held companies, whereby the fund partnered directly with the company's existing business owners and management team through co-investments with Main Street Capital Corporation, utilizing the customized one-stop debt and equity financing solutions provided in Main Street's lower middle market investment strategy. After the listing of the fund shares on New York Stock Exchange in January of 2025, the fund no longer makes investments in new lower middle market portfolio companies but continues to participate in follow-on investments in its existing lower middle market portfolio companies. David MagdolPresident and Chief Investment Officer at MSC Income Fund00:14:03We are pleased to report that the overall operating performance for most of the Fund's lower middle market portfolio companies continues to be positive, which contributed to the attractive fourth quarter financial results. These contributions included both strong dividend income and continued fair value appreciation. During the fourth quarter, the Fund completed $23 million in total lower middle market follow-on investments, which after aggregate investment activity, resulted in a net increase in the lower middle market portfolio of $15 million. At quarter end, the lower middle market portfolio had investments in 55 portfolio companies totaling $488 million of fair value and representing 36% of the Fund's total investment portfolio. The lower middle market portfolio at fair value is comprised of 53% debt investments and 47% equity investments. 99% of these debt investments were first lien loans, and they had an attractive weighted average yield of over 12%. David MagdolPresident and Chief Investment Officer at MSC Income Fund00:15:04The Fund had equity ownership positions in all of its lower middle market portfolio companies, representing an 8% average ownership position. We expect these investments will continue to provide significant benefits in the future, including the opportunity for continued dividend income, fair value appreciation, and eventually meaningful realized gains upon the future exit of these lower middle market investments. As Dwayne mentioned, we continue to see significant interest from potential buyers in several of the Fund's lower middle market portfolio companies, which we expect will lead to favorable realizations and additional fair value appreciation over the next few quarters. A great recent example of the benefits that these portfolio companies can provide is the recent exit of the Fund's investment in Mystic Logistics in the fourth quarter. This exit resulted in a realized gain of $6 million. David MagdolPresident and Chief Investment Officer at MSC Income Fund00:15:54Also notable is the fact that Mystic Logistics paid total dividends to the Fund of $5.5 million over the life of the investment. Turning to the Fund's total investment portfolio as of December 31st, the Fund continued to maintain a highly diversified portfolio with investments in 144 portfolio companies spanning across numerous industries and end markets. The Fund's largest portfolio companies represented less than 4% of the total investment portfolio fair value at quarter end, and less than 4% of total investment income for the year ended December 31st, with most of the portfolio investments representing less than 1% of the Fund's income and assets. With that, I'll turn the call over to Cory. Cory GilbertCFO at MSC Income Fund00:16:37Thank you, David, and thank you to everyone who has joined us today. Fund's total investment income for the fourth quarter was $34.9 million, an increase of $1.5 million, or 4.4%, from the fourth quarter of 2024, and a decrease of $0.5 million, or 1.3%, from the third quarter. Fourth quarter included income considered less consistent or non-recurring in nature of $1.9 million. As we've previously discussed, these non-recurring items vary quarter to quarter and can include dividend income from equity investments, and interest and fee income from accelerated prepayment, repricing, and other activity related to debt investments. For the fourth quarter, these items were $0.9 million higher than the average of the prior four quarters, $1.1 million higher than the fourth quarter of 2024, and $0.6 million higher than the third quarter. Cory GilbertCFO at MSC Income Fund00:17:40Dividend income for the fourth quarter increased by $2.6 million from a year ago and by $1.7 million from the third quarter. The increase in dividend income from both the prior year and the third quarter was primarily due to an increase in dividends from lower middle market equity investments and included $1.2 million of non-recurring items. As we've previously discussed, dividend income will fluctuate quarter to quarter based on the underlying performance, cash flows, and capital allocation activities of the Fund's portfolio companies and certain non-recurring items. Cory GilbertCFO at MSC Income Fund00:18:18Interest income for the fourth quarter decreased by $0.8 million from a year ago and by $1.3 million from the third quarter. The decrease in interest income from both the prior year and the third quarter was principally attributable to a decrease in interest rates, primarily resulting from decreases in benchmark index rates on floating rate debt investments and an increased negative impact from investments on non-accrual status, partially offset by the growth of the investment portfolio. Fee income for the fourth quarter decreased by $0.3 million from a year ago and by $0.9 million from the third quarter. The decrease in fee income from both the prior year and the third quarter was primarily due to the refinancing and prepayment of debt investments. Fund's expenses, net of waivers for the fourth quarter, increased by $1.3 million from the prior year and by $2.2 million from the third quarter. Cory GilbertCFO at MSC Income Fund00:19:22These increases were primarily driven by a $2.8 million capital gains incentive fee accrued in the fourth quarter of 2025. This accrual was partially offset by a $1.2 million decrease in interest expense and a $0.4 million decrease in base management fee from the prior year, and a $0.5 million decrease in general and administrative expenses, and a $0.3 million decrease in interest expense from the third quarter. The capital gains incentive fee accrual is primarily the result of the significant net fair value appreciation of the Fund's investments since the listing, and was recognized during the fourth quarter of 2025. However, this amount is not currently payable and is not expected to be payable in the near future, if ever. Cory GilbertCFO at MSC Income Fund00:20:15The decrease in interest expense from a year ago was largely driven by a decreased weighted average interest rate on the credit facilities due to a decrease in the applicable spreads, resulting from amendments of the credit facilities since the fourth quarter of 2024, and decreases in floating benchmark index rates. The decrease in interest expense from the third quarter is primarily driven by a decreased weighted average interest rate in the credit facilities due to decreases in floating benchmark index rates. The Fund's expense ratio, calculated as the ratio of total non-interest operating expenses, excluding incentive fees as a percentage of the Fund's average total assets, was 1.8% on an annualized basis for the fourth quarter, a decrease from 2.1% in the prior year and a decrease from 2% in the third quarter. Cory GilbertCFO at MSC Income Fund00:21:10The fund's NII, excluding the impact of the capital gains incentive fee and NII-related taxes in the fourth quarter, was $17.2 million, or $0.37 per share, increasing from $14.2 million, or $0.35 per share from the prior year. During the quarter, the fund recorded a net increase in the fair value of its investments of $17.2 million, representing the impact of $16.6 million of net realized gains and a $0.5 million of net unrealized appreciation. The net fair value increase was attributable to increases of $12 million in the lower middle market portfolio and $8.1 million in the private loan portfolio, partially offset by a decrease of $3.1 million in the residual middle market portfolio. Cory GilbertCFO at MSC Income Fund00:22:03Overall, the fund's operating results for the fourth quarter resulted in a net increase in net assets of $30 million and an NAV per share of $15.85, a $0.31 increase from the third quarter and $0.32 above the fund's public offering price per share in its public offering and listing on the New York Stock Exchange in January 2025. As of year-end, the fund had investments on non-accrual status comprising 1% of the total investment portfolio at fair value and 3.9% at cost. As of year-end, the fund's regulatory asset coverage ratio was 2.22, and its net debt to NAV ratio was 0.79. As Dwayne mentioned, the fund's focus remains on achieving a fully invested portfolio through its expanded regulatory leverage capacity, which became effective on January the 29th, 2026. Cory GilbertCFO at MSC Income Fund00:23:01With that, I will now turn the call back to the operator so we can take any questions. Operator00:23:08Thank you. We'll now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up the handset before pressing the star keys. One moment please while we pull for questions. Thank you. Our first question is from Brian McKenna with Citizens. Brian McKennaAnalyst at Citizens00:23:47Great, thanks. It was good to see the strong quarter of originations and then just growth in the overall investment portfolio. Sorry if I missed this, but I am just trying to figure out how much of the decline in interest income quarter-on-quarter was from lower base rates, and then why we did not see really any meaningful offsets there from growth in this portfolio. I am assuming it is timing related, but any thoughts here would be helpful. Cory GilbertCFO at MSC Income Fund00:24:14Sure, Brian. Thanks for the question. I would say to the second part, it is timing. I think a lot of the Cory GilbertCFO at MSC Income Fund00:24:19Investment activity was back-ended. It was in the second half of the quarter, so that is why you do not see as much of a benefit there. You did see some decline from rates, and I would say that was about just over half a million dollars was the decline from a SOFR movement standpoint inside the quarter. Brian McKennaAnalyst at Citizens00:24:40Okay. Got it. That is helpful. Just given the commentary on the main call around the outlook for the lower middle market portfolio and what will likely be some additional markup and realization events across that portfolio, it would seem like some of this is going to flow through to MSIF as well, similar to 3Q and 4Q. Given this dynamic and then the upside that is created in net assets from that, along with low levels of leverage today, is there an opportunity to lean in further on the buyback just so you start accreting even more NAV? Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:25:11Yes. I'd say, Brian, when you look at it, the benefit or the impact to MSC Income Fund will be the same as Main, obviously, just a different allocation. Historically, Main Street had about 80% of lower middle market investments, and MSC Income Fund had 20%. That's assuming they had liquidity at the time. In general, somewhere in that area code would be the sharing between Main Street and MSC Income Fund on historical lower middle market investments. I think when you look at those proceeds, I think we'll just have to continue to look at what's the best use of that capital. Is it to provide a buyback or some other similar activity for the shareholders? Is it to pay out more dividends, or is it to retain that capital if we can do so on a tax cost-efficient basis, retain that capital and grow the portfolio? Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:25:59We haven't had those significant realizations come through yet. If we see that type of activity, those will be the three things we have to weigh and determine what's the best path for the fund and for the shareholders. Brian McKennaAnalyst at Citizens00:26:11Got it. Thank you, Dwayne. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:26:12Thank you. Operator00:26:16Our next question is from Robert Dodd with Raymond James. Robert DoddAnalyst at Raymond James00:26:22Hi. Morning, guys. Several of mine were already answered on the prior call, but I have one here. On the mix, you're at 36% lower middle market at the end of December. Obviously, Mystic exited. Sounds like you're expecting several more realizations from the lower middle market portfolio. There'll be some fair value appreciation probably there. On the other hand, growth in the private loan portfolio as well. I'm just going to pull out a crystal ball first. What do you think the odds are that you get down close to, say, 20% lower middle market by the end of this year or even the end of next year? Because that's where the fee trigger changes for the base management fee. Robert DoddAnalyst at Raymond James00:27:12Do you, with the expectations of realizations in the lower middle market, do you think it is actually going to shift the mix significantly over the next, say, 12 to 24 months? Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:27:24Sure, Robert. Thanks for the question. I'd say similar to some of our comments in the past, I think the movement from where we are today with 36% lower middle market to being at or below 20%, that's going to take an extended period of time, and that's going to be the case for a couple of reasons. One, we think this is a huge positive for the investment portfolio. It's a very diversified portfolio, so there's no individual name on the lower middle market side that I would say is significant. I think the largest name we have from memory is about 3.5%. Even if you exit that, you'd have to have several of those exit. Obviously, trying to drop 16%, 17%, you'd have to have five or six of them exit if they were all the same size. That's the largest. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:28:06You've got a very diversified portfolio. As you exit these investments, it's just going to take time. I think when you look at the other factor, Mystic Logistics is a good example. If you go back and look at the press release that was issued for the Mystic Logistics transaction, we did realize the exit in Mystic Logistics. In that situation, it was a merger with a larger complimentary business. As a result, the fund stayed in that investment for a part of its investment, both debt and equity. Basically moved up the capital structure from a larger equity investment relative to total investment to something that was more first lien senior secured debt and a smaller equity investment. Some of those proceeds stayed invested in that business, which is now called UBM or United Business Mail, I think is what UBM stands for. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:29:02You'll have some of that. Sometimes when we exit our lower middle market companies, it's not a 100% full exit. You could have some rollover or continuation in the new business. Again, like we said in the past, it's going to be a while. I'd say the biggest catalyst for bringing that percentage down is going to be less about the exits of the lower middle market investments. It's going to be more about the growth of the portfolio, first through the additional debt capacity that the fund has, and then after that, any other ability that we have to grow the portfolio. The example would be XYZ company, say it's 3%, that gets proceeds. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:29:38You take those proceeds, and to Brian McKenna's point from earlier, if you retain them as opposed to paying them out and use that retained capital to grow the business, that should get you closer to a 20% percentage over time, as opposed to paying that out and not growing the portfolio. Those would be the ways that we would look at that transition. Robert DoddAnalyst at Raymond James00:29:57Got it. Thank you. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:29:58Thank you, Robert. Operator00:30:02Our next question is from Kenneth Lee with RBC Capital Markets. Kenneth LeeAnalyst at RBC Capital Markets00:30:08Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Just one. In terms of the portfolio leverage there, I wonder if you could just share any updated outlook that you might have, just given the originations pipeline, given the current environment and some of the opportunities you're seeing. Now that you've gone past the regulatory limits. Yeah, thanks. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:30:30Yeah, sure, Ken. Thanks for the question and thanks for joining us. Yeah, I'd say we have the expanded regulatory leverage. We received that just with the passage of time. That happened at the end of January. In conjunction with that, we obviously have to go get the leverage. It's one thing to have the capacity, but you also have to have access to it. I'd say we've been actively working to get additional liquidity. Obviously, we haven't announced anything yet, but I think we feel good about where we sit in terms of the fund's ability to gain additional debt capacity, both secured and unsecured. We just have to go execute to it. I think we feel good about leverage. We feel good about liquidity. We just got to have those activities get finalized and get executed. Kenneth LeeAnalyst at RBC Capital Markets00:31:15Got you. Very helpful there. Just in terms of the private loan side, in terms of some of the more recent deals you've been seeing, some of the more recent investments there. Wonderful if you could talk a little bit more about some of the spreads you're seeing and then where your expectations are on that go forward. Thanks. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:31:36Sure. I'll give super high level and then I'll let Nick add on additional color. I'd say here more recently, the last quarter or two, I'd say that our view or my view is that spreads have started to stabilize. They are less than they were 12 or 18 months ago. Overall, I think the spreads have stabilized. I think that's likely because of some of the uncertainty in the marketplace. I think a bigger factor is just the overall increase in private equity activity as a whole, would be my view. Nick, you give your views or additional color. Nick MeserveManaging Director and Head of the Private Credit Investment Group at MSC Income Fund00:32:02Yeah. I'd say since beginning of third quarter, we've seen spreads kind of stabilizing that five to 550 range. I think what we have also seen is, I'd say the outliers of maybe a deal at SOFR plus 600 or 650. We're seeing less and less of those. Really seeing a tighter band of pricing kind of in that five to 575 range on the wide end. On the smaller end of deals that we focus on, we have not seen a lot of crossover to the 475. I think from a cost of capital perspective in the industry. Once you dip below that, it gets tougher. I think we'll hopefully see that continue into 2026. I think we would expect kind of a flattish year on spreads in that five, 550 range. Kenneth LeeAnalyst at RBC Capital Markets00:32:43Great. Very helpful. Thanks again. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:32:46Thanks, Ken. Operator00:32:50Our next question is from Aaron Sagenowitz with Truist Financial. Arren CyganovichAnalyst at Truist Financial00:32:55Thanks. I was wondering if you could just provide a little detail on how the underlying portfolio companies are doing in general and what you're seeing in terms of revenue, EBITDA growth, trends you're seeing for the portfolio overall. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:33:11Yeah, Aaron, thanks for the question. I'd say in both the lower middle market and the private credit, I would say we're seeing consistent good performance. Nothing significant one direction or other in terms of significant outperformance or underperformance. Obviously, having a big, diverse portfolio, you're always going to have some companies that are outperforming and others that are not performing in the way that we would want them to or where we expected them to. Overall, I wouldn't say there's been anything that is a significant change over the last couple of quarters in either direction. David, Nick, if you guys have a different view or anything you want to add? Nick MeserveManaging Director and Head of the Private Credit Investment Group at MSC Income Fund00:33:43Nothing to add. David MagdolPresident and Chief Investment Officer at MSC Income Fund00:33:44Nothing there. Arren CyganovichAnalyst at Truist Financial00:33:47Thanks. Then on the LMM portfolio kind of coming down over time is, can you remind me if what's the plan long term? Is there always going to be some element of LMM? I mean, I see that as personally view the LMM portfolio as a net positive given the history you've had in terms of equity realizations with a lot of those investments. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:34:15Yeah. I'd say the plan there is that eventually, I just don't know when eventually is. Could be 10, 15, 20 years. Eventually lower middle market as it sits today, will eventually get to a very small amount and eventually zero. The reason I say that is because the fund strategy after the listing at the end of January of 2025, is that it will not make any new lower middle market investments. It will continue to support and participate in any add-on or follow-on investments in existing companies, just like we talked about related to Mystic and UBM. We have also had a number of companies in the fourth quarter and first quarter that have had follow-on investment opportunities, and the fund is going to participate in those on a pro rata basis with Main Street. Because of that, it's going to take a long time. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:35:00Eventually, even though we have a permanent holding period ability on our side at MSC Income Fund and at Main Street, our partners typically don't. They're individuals. They're going to age out. They're going to want to retire. In certain situations, their management team might be able to buy them out and give them full liquidity. Most situations, that likely results in a transaction where the company is sold to a third party, in most situations. That's going to be the driver. It's just going to take a long time. I think longer term, we view that as a positive for the fund. The fund's goal is to produce a very consistent, well-covered dividend, covered by recurring interest income. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:35:41As you have investments in the lower middle market that have a mix of debt and equity as they get repaid, exited, we take those proceeds and deploy them into first lien senior secured private loan investment opportunities. One, you're moving up the capital structure from a risk standpoint. You're also generating more consistent contractual predictable income. We think that's consistent with the fund's plan and that is our expectation, our intent. Longer term, and this is do not have anything planned here, longer term, Main Street's always looking for different avenues or opportunities to create value from an investment standpoint. There's nothing that Main Street's doing today, if Main Street is a platform decides to enter into a new strategy that we think is attractive for Main Street, we would offer that to MSC Income Fund. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:36:26We have to have an agreement with the MSC Income Fund board. If it was attractive to Main Street, I would bet that there's a good chance it's attractive to MSC Income Fund, as long as it's supportive with the fund's goal, as I said earlier, with producing a very consistent, well-covered, kind of highly predictable dividend. I think you could see something else change. Longer term, as we sit here today, it's more status quo, it's just going to take a while for the lower middle market portfolio to roll off. Arren CyganovichAnalyst at Truist Financial00:36:54Thank you. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:36:56You're welcome. Operator00:37:00Our next question is from Doug Harter with UBS. Doug HarterAnalyst at UBS00:37:06Thanks. Mindful of your prior answer about needing to get the leverage facilities, can you just remind us what the target leverage is? Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:37:18Sure. Thanks for your question. Yeah. Our target leverage under the new expanded regulatory leverage range is going to be 1.15-1.25 debt to equity. Doug HarterAnalyst at UBS00:37:32Got it. Do you expect that to change as the mix shifts away from lower middle market? Just how should we think about the inherent leverage of the two strategies? Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:37:46Yeah. I would say as we sit here today, I would not expect it to change. I think we always want to have some reasonable amount of flexibility and liquidity. I think if you start going above that, just from our perspective or my perspective, I think it starts getting tight. I think that 1.15-1.25 is probably a pretty good range. I think as you have the portfolio migrate from lower middle market to private loan, that's when you probably move up inside of that range. As we sit here today, I would not expect us to go above that range. Doug HarterAnalyst at UBS00:38:17Great. Appreciate the answer. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:38:19Thank you. Operator00:38:23Our next question is from Mickey Schlein with Ladenburg Thalmann. Mickey SchleienAnalyst at Ladenburg Thalmann00:38:30Yes. Good morning, everyone. Dwayne, your software allocation at about 7%, it's not particularly high, but it is meaningful. I'd love to hear what your thesis is on the impact of AI on these companies and how have you been underwriting investments in those companies over the last couple of years. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:38:53Sure, Mickey. Thanks for the question, and thanks for joining us. As you said, the fund's exposure to software is very limited. Kind of that mid-single digit type percentage. Inside of that, you've probably heard us say this before, just given your longer term history with Main Street over the years. We, as a platform, are very much value-based or value-focused investors. A software, particularly high growth software, you think about some of the stuff you hear about in the industry, ARR type loans or loans where you expect a bunch of growth before the loan can be serviced from a debt service standpoint. Those are things that just don't fit our profile. They never have, and they don't today. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:39:33That's why when we look at our exposure here, even though we've got kind of a mid-single digit type percentage exposed to software, we think those software names are pretty well protected. Obviously, they and we are talking about their exposures to AI. As we sit here today, there's nothing there that we're overly concerned about. Mickey, if you want to add any additional color there, any different takes on it. Nick MeserveManaging Director and Head of the Private Credit Investment Group at MSC Income Fund00:40:00As Dwayne said, we just didn't really focus. We haven't historically focused on, I'd say, high growth from a software space. We won't do that going forward. I think our exposure we do have there is a little less exposed or we're a little insulated from some of the AI boom, as there's just less growth there. I think we focus a little more on infrastructure software versus pure growth SaaS software. Mickey SchleienAnalyst at Ladenburg Thalmann00:40:23When you refer to infrastructure software, are you referring to sort of enterprise level software that's really ingrained into the portfolio company's operations? Nick MeserveManaging Director and Head of the Private Credit Investment Group at MSC Income Fund00:40:36Yeah, to that degree. I think a lot of times it'll be a different moat they might have or it's more of a niche software for a very specific industry. Those, I think, would be less impacted by AI as you go forward. They eventually will have that impact, but I think that's where we focus historically. Mickey SchleienAnalyst at Ladenburg Thalmann00:40:50Okay. Thank you for that. Those are all my questions this morning. Appreciate your time. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:40:55Thank you, Mickey. Operator00:40:59Thank you. This concludes our question and answer session. I would now like to hand the floor back to management for any closing remarks. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:41:07We just want to thank everyone again for joining us this morning. We appreciate the continued support of the fund shareholders, and we look forward to our next update call in May after the release of our results for the first quarter. Thank you. Operator00:41:20Thank you. This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. 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Email Address About MSC Income FundMSC Income Fund (NYSE:MSIF) (NYSE: MSIF) is a publicly traded investment company listed on the New York Stock Exchange that aims to provide shareholders with current income and the potential for capital appreciation through a diversified portfolio of income-producing assets. The fund offers investors a single vehicle to gain exposure to a variety of yield-generating securities managed under a unified investment strategy. The fund’s portfolio strategy emphasizes a broad approach to income generation, with allocations that can include fixed-income instruments and other income-oriented securities. Portfolio managers typically balance considerations of yield, credit quality and interest-rate sensitivity when constructing holdings, seeking to deliver a steady distribution stream while managing downside risk. Specific sector and security exposures can vary over time based on market conditions and the manager’s outlook. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Greetings and welcome to the MSC Income Fund fourth quarter earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce Zach Vaughan. Please go ahead. Zach VaughanInvestor Relations at Dennard Lascar00:00:25Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for MSC Income Fund's fourth quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Joining me with prepared comments are Dwayne Hyzak, Chief Executive Officer, David Magdol, President and Chief Investment Officer, Nick Meserve, Managing Director and Head of the Private Credit Investment Group, and Cory Gilbert, Chief Financial Officer. MSC Income Fund issued a press release yesterday afternoon that details the fund's fourth quarter and full year financial and operating results. The document is available in the investor relations section of the fund's website at mscincomefund.com. A replay of today's call will be available beginning an hour after the completion of the call and will remain available until March sixth. Information on how to access the replay was included in yesterday's earnings release. Zach VaughanInvestor Relations at Dennard Lascar00:01:12I also advise that this conference call is being broadcast live to the Internet and can be accessed on the fund's homepage. Please note that information reported on this call speaks only as of today, February 27th, 2026. Therefore, you are advised that time-sensitive information may no longer be accurate at the time of any replay listening or transcript reading. Today's call may contain forward-looking statements. Many of these forward-looking statements can be identified by the use of words such as anticipates, believes, expects, intends, will, should, may, or similar expressions. Statements are based on management's estimates, assumptions, and projections as of the date of this call. There are no guarantees of future performance. Zach VaughanInvestor Relations at Dennard Lascar00:01:53Actual results may differ materially from the results expressed or implied in these statements as a result of risks, uncertainties, and other factors, including, but not limited to, the factors set forth in the fund's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which can be found on the fund's website or at sec.gov. MSC Income Fund assumes no obligation to update any of these statements unless required by law. During today's call, management will discuss non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted net investment income, or ANII. ANII is net investment income, or NII, as determined in accordance with U.S. generally accepted accounting principles, or GAAP, excluding the impact of the capital gains incentive fee. Zach VaughanInvestor Relations at Dennard Lascar00:02:35MSC Income Fund believes presenting ANII and the related per share amount is useful and appropriate supplemental disclosure for analyzing the fund's financial performance, since the calculation of the capital gains incentive fee is based on realized gains and losses and unrealized fair value appreciation and depreciation, none of which are included in NII. Please refer to yesterday's press release for a reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures. Two additional key performance indicators that management will be discussing on this call are net asset value, or NAV, and return on equity, or ROE. NAV is defined as total assets minus total liabilities and is also reported on a per share basis. MSC Income Fund defines ROE as the net increase in net assets resulting from operations divided by average quarterly NAV. Zach VaughanInvestor Relations at Dennard Lascar00:03:25As a reminder, the fund effectuated a two-for-one reverse stock split on December 16th, 2024. All per share amounts, share data, related information discussed on this call today reflect the effect of the reverse stock split. Please note that certain information discussed on this call, including information related to portfolio companies, was derived from third-party sources and has not been independently verified. I'll turn the call over to MSC Income Fund CEO, Dwayne Hyzak. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:03:52Thanks, Zach. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. We appreciate your participation on this morning's call. We hope that everyone's doing well. On today's call, we will provide you with the fund's key quarterly updates. We'll also be providing a few updates on the fund's performance for the full year. Following our comments, we'll be happy to take your questions. We're very pleased with the fund's performance in the fourth quarter, which resulted in a return on equity of 16.3%, favorable adjusted net investment income per share, and a significant increase in the fair value of the fund's investments, including the benefits of net realized gains in both the fund's private loan and lower middle market portfolios, which resulted in a significant increase in NAV per share. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:04:34The fund also produced favorable investment activity in the fourth quarter, which generated meaningful growth of its investment portfolio. After the fund's positive performance in the first three quarters of 2025, the fund's strong performance in the fourth quarter resulted in an ROE of 12.5% for the full year and pre-tax adjusted NII per share in excess of the fund's total dividends paid. Based upon the quality of the fund's existing investment portfolio, combined with the fund's expanded regulatory leverage capacity, which became effective at the end of January 2026, and which provides the fund significant capacity to add additional debt to fund the future growth of its investment portfolio, and the current attractive pipeline of new private loan investment opportunities, we remain excited about the future expectations for the fund. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:05:22We are also confident that the fund's sole focus on its private loan strategy with respect to new portfolio company investments and the growth of recurring interest income from such debt investments, together with the fund's contractual future-based management fee reductions as the fund's lower middle market investments decrease as a percentage of its total investment portfolio, will strengthen the fund's ability to deliver attractive recurring dividends and favorable total returns to the fund's shareholders in the future. The fund generated adjusted net investment income or ANII, which is NII, excluding the impact of the capital gains incentive fee of $0.34 per share in the quarter, or $0.37 per share on a pre-tax ANII basis. These results, combined with our positive outlook for the future, resulted in our most recent dividend announcements, which I will discuss in more detail later. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:06:15The fund finished the quarter with NAV per share of $15.85, a $0.31 increase from the prior quarter. We continue to be pleased with the performance of the fund's investment portfolio, including both the private loan and lower middle market portfolios. Before I will discuss our financial results in more detail. Consistent with our guidance last quarter, the fund's private loan investment activity in the fourth quarter returned to our expected normal level of quarterly activity and resulted in a net increase in private loan investments of $57 million. The fund remains highly focused on executing new investment opportunities that are consistent with its historical private loan investments as we work to grow the fund's investment portfolio. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:06:57Consistent with my comments last quarter, we're pleased that the fund successfully exited two private loan portfolio equity investments in the fourth quarter, with these activities resulting in total realized gains of $16 million, or $0.34 per share, both at meaningful premiums to the fund's third quarter fair values. The fund is also focused on maximizing the benefits from its legacy lower middle market investment portfolio and recycling this existing capital into private loan investments as investments are exited or repaid. As part of these activities, the fund fully exited its investments in one high-performing lower middle market portfolio company, Mystic Logistics, in the fourth quarter, resulting in a $6 million realized gain. We also continue to see significant interest from potential buyers in several of the fund's lower middle market portfolio companies, which we expect will lead to additional favorable realizations over the next few quarters. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:07:51The fund also continues to benefit from attractive follow-on investments in existing lower middle market portfolio companies, which we believe are beneficial to both current investment income and future value creation. Nick and David will cover the fund's investment activity in more detail. Based upon the fund's results for the quarter and its future outlook, earlier this week, the fund's board of directors declared a regular quarterly dividend of $0.35 per share and a supplemental dividend of $0.01 per share, both of which are payable on May 1st, 2026, to shareholders of record as of March 31st, 2026. Going forward, the fund expects to continue to maintain a dividend policy that provides for its total quarterly dividends, which are expected to include a regular quarterly dividend and a supplemental dividend to be set at a level generally consistent with the fund's pre-tax ANII per share. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:08:43Based upon the total dividends payable on May 1st and the current stock price, the fund is currently providing its shareholders a dividend yield of 11.5%. As we look forward to the fund's near-term investment activities, as of today, I would characterize the private loan investment pipeline as above average. We're excited about the current pipeline of new investment opportunities and follow-on investment opportunities in existing portfolio companies, and we remain confident in our ability to generate attractive new private loan investment opportunities and grow the fund's investment portfolio over the next several quarters. My last few comments are reminders of the continued support the fund has received from Main Street Capital Corporation. Main Street's wholly owned subsidiary was appointed the sole advisor to the fund in October 2020. Main Street has purchased over $27 million of the fund's common stock. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:09:33In conjunction with the fund's equity offering in January 2025, Main Street entered into an open market share purchase plan to purchase up to $20 million of the fund shares for a 12-month period beginning in March 2025, at times when the fund shares are trading at predetermined levels below the fund's NAV per share, with the terms of such plan being identical to the fund's open market share repurchase plan to purchase up to $65 million of the fund shares, with any open market share purchases being split by the fund and Main Street on a pro rata basis. Through today, Main Street has purchased over $5 million and the fund has repurchased over $18 million under these plans. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:10:15We believe Main Street's significant equity ownership in the fund and its participation in the post-listing share purchase plan demonstrates Main Street's commitment to the future success of the fund and reinforces Main Street's confidence in the strength and quality of the fund's investment portfolio and investment strategy. With that, I'll turn the call over to Nick. Nick MeserveManaging Director and Head of the Private Credit Investment Group at MSC Income Fund00:10:35Thanks, Dwayne, good morning, everyone. As Dwayne highlighted in his remarks, we are pleased with the performance of the fund's private loan investment portfolio in the fourth quarter, which represents the largest portion of the fund's investment portfolio and which, as a reminder, is now the fund's sole focus with respect to new portfolio company investments. The overall operating performance for most of the fund's private loan portfolio companies continue to be positive. Contributed to the fund's favorable fourth quarter financial results. As we previously noted, over the past few years, the fund has seen softness in certain private loan portfolio companies within the consumer space. We have been and are working on maximizing recoveries on those specific investments over the next few years. One of the favorable realized exits in the fourth quarter that Dwayne mentioned was a previously restructured portfolio company with consumer exposure. Nick MeserveManaging Director and Head of the Private Credit Investment Group at MSC Income Fund00:11:25Due to the significant efforts and successes of that portfolio company's management team, the hard work of our team, and the patience to work through a difficult situation, we ended up with a positive outcome. We expect and hope to have similar outcomes on several previously restructured investments in the future. The fund also benefited from a realized gain of $13.5 million from the exit of one of its equity investments in a private loan portfolio company in the fourth quarter, which illustrates the opportunity that can be available in the future from these equity co-investments. Given the current economic uncertainty that exists across certain parts of the economy, we are diligently working to stay in front of the fund's portfolio companies to understand their exposures to changing environments. To date, based upon these ever-evolving discussions, we are comfortable with the future outlook for the portfolio. Nick MeserveManaging Director and Head of the Private Credit Investment Group at MSC Income Fund00:12:11At quarter end, 92% of the private loan portfolio was comprised of secured debt investments, over 99% of which were first lien and 96% of which were floating rate loans. The portfolio had an attractive weighted average yield of 10.7%, which was down 130 basis points from the end of 2024, primarily as a result of decreases in the SOFR rates for these floating rate debt investments. We're also starting to see the tighter spreads on new investments start to bring down the portfolio average. During the fourth quarter, the fund invested $101 million in the private loan portfolio, which after aggregate investment activity, resulted in a net increase of $57 million. Funded in the fourth quarter investments in 81 private loan portfolio companies totaling $809 million of fair value and representing 61% of the fund's total investment portfolio at fair value. Nick MeserveManaging Director and Head of the Private Credit Investment Group at MSC Income Fund00:13:00As Dwayne mentioned, our private loan pipeline is above average. We continue to see increasing private equity activity, that is delivering both good new origination levels and replenishing the pipeline. With that, I'll turn the call over to David. David MagdolPresident and Chief Investment Officer at MSC Income Fund00:13:14Thanks, Nick. Good morning, everyone. In addition to the private loan portfolio that Nick just covered, the fund also maintains a portfolio of legacy lower middle market investments. As a reminder, these are combined debt and equity investments in smaller, privately held companies, whereby the fund partnered directly with the company's existing business owners and management team through co-investments with Main Street Capital Corporation, utilizing the customized one-stop debt and equity financing solutions provided in Main Street's lower middle market investment strategy. After the listing of the fund shares on New York Stock Exchange in January of 2025, the fund no longer makes investments in new lower middle market portfolio companies but continues to participate in follow-on investments in its existing lower middle market portfolio companies. David MagdolPresident and Chief Investment Officer at MSC Income Fund00:14:03We are pleased to report that the overall operating performance for most of the Fund's lower middle market portfolio companies continues to be positive, which contributed to the attractive fourth quarter financial results. These contributions included both strong dividend income and continued fair value appreciation. During the fourth quarter, the Fund completed $23 million in total lower middle market follow-on investments, which after aggregate investment activity, resulted in a net increase in the lower middle market portfolio of $15 million. At quarter end, the lower middle market portfolio had investments in 55 portfolio companies totaling $488 million of fair value and representing 36% of the Fund's total investment portfolio. The lower middle market portfolio at fair value is comprised of 53% debt investments and 47% equity investments. 99% of these debt investments were first lien loans, and they had an attractive weighted average yield of over 12%. David MagdolPresident and Chief Investment Officer at MSC Income Fund00:15:04The Fund had equity ownership positions in all of its lower middle market portfolio companies, representing an 8% average ownership position. We expect these investments will continue to provide significant benefits in the future, including the opportunity for continued dividend income, fair value appreciation, and eventually meaningful realized gains upon the future exit of these lower middle market investments. As Dwayne mentioned, we continue to see significant interest from potential buyers in several of the Fund's lower middle market portfolio companies, which we expect will lead to favorable realizations and additional fair value appreciation over the next few quarters. A great recent example of the benefits that these portfolio companies can provide is the recent exit of the Fund's investment in Mystic Logistics in the fourth quarter. This exit resulted in a realized gain of $6 million. David MagdolPresident and Chief Investment Officer at MSC Income Fund00:15:54Also notable is the fact that Mystic Logistics paid total dividends to the Fund of $5.5 million over the life of the investment. Turning to the Fund's total investment portfolio as of December 31st, the Fund continued to maintain a highly diversified portfolio with investments in 144 portfolio companies spanning across numerous industries and end markets. The Fund's largest portfolio companies represented less than 4% of the total investment portfolio fair value at quarter end, and less than 4% of total investment income for the year ended December 31st, with most of the portfolio investments representing less than 1% of the Fund's income and assets. With that, I'll turn the call over to Cory. Cory GilbertCFO at MSC Income Fund00:16:37Thank you, David, and thank you to everyone who has joined us today. Fund's total investment income for the fourth quarter was $34.9 million, an increase of $1.5 million, or 4.4%, from the fourth quarter of 2024, and a decrease of $0.5 million, or 1.3%, from the third quarter. Fourth quarter included income considered less consistent or non-recurring in nature of $1.9 million. As we've previously discussed, these non-recurring items vary quarter to quarter and can include dividend income from equity investments, and interest and fee income from accelerated prepayment, repricing, and other activity related to debt investments. For the fourth quarter, these items were $0.9 million higher than the average of the prior four quarters, $1.1 million higher than the fourth quarter of 2024, and $0.6 million higher than the third quarter. Cory GilbertCFO at MSC Income Fund00:17:40Dividend income for the fourth quarter increased by $2.6 million from a year ago and by $1.7 million from the third quarter. The increase in dividend income from both the prior year and the third quarter was primarily due to an increase in dividends from lower middle market equity investments and included $1.2 million of non-recurring items. As we've previously discussed, dividend income will fluctuate quarter to quarter based on the underlying performance, cash flows, and capital allocation activities of the Fund's portfolio companies and certain non-recurring items. Cory GilbertCFO at MSC Income Fund00:18:18Interest income for the fourth quarter decreased by $0.8 million from a year ago and by $1.3 million from the third quarter. The decrease in interest income from both the prior year and the third quarter was principally attributable to a decrease in interest rates, primarily resulting from decreases in benchmark index rates on floating rate debt investments and an increased negative impact from investments on non-accrual status, partially offset by the growth of the investment portfolio. Fee income for the fourth quarter decreased by $0.3 million from a year ago and by $0.9 million from the third quarter. The decrease in fee income from both the prior year and the third quarter was primarily due to the refinancing and prepayment of debt investments. Fund's expenses, net of waivers for the fourth quarter, increased by $1.3 million from the prior year and by $2.2 million from the third quarter. Cory GilbertCFO at MSC Income Fund00:19:22These increases were primarily driven by a $2.8 million capital gains incentive fee accrued in the fourth quarter of 2025. This accrual was partially offset by a $1.2 million decrease in interest expense and a $0.4 million decrease in base management fee from the prior year, and a $0.5 million decrease in general and administrative expenses, and a $0.3 million decrease in interest expense from the third quarter. The capital gains incentive fee accrual is primarily the result of the significant net fair value appreciation of the Fund's investments since the listing, and was recognized during the fourth quarter of 2025. However, this amount is not currently payable and is not expected to be payable in the near future, if ever. Cory GilbertCFO at MSC Income Fund00:20:15The decrease in interest expense from a year ago was largely driven by a decreased weighted average interest rate on the credit facilities due to a decrease in the applicable spreads, resulting from amendments of the credit facilities since the fourth quarter of 2024, and decreases in floating benchmark index rates. The decrease in interest expense from the third quarter is primarily driven by a decreased weighted average interest rate in the credit facilities due to decreases in floating benchmark index rates. The Fund's expense ratio, calculated as the ratio of total non-interest operating expenses, excluding incentive fees as a percentage of the Fund's average total assets, was 1.8% on an annualized basis for the fourth quarter, a decrease from 2.1% in the prior year and a decrease from 2% in the third quarter. Cory GilbertCFO at MSC Income Fund00:21:10The fund's NII, excluding the impact of the capital gains incentive fee and NII-related taxes in the fourth quarter, was $17.2 million, or $0.37 per share, increasing from $14.2 million, or $0.35 per share from the prior year. During the quarter, the fund recorded a net increase in the fair value of its investments of $17.2 million, representing the impact of $16.6 million of net realized gains and a $0.5 million of net unrealized appreciation. The net fair value increase was attributable to increases of $12 million in the lower middle market portfolio and $8.1 million in the private loan portfolio, partially offset by a decrease of $3.1 million in the residual middle market portfolio. Cory GilbertCFO at MSC Income Fund00:22:03Overall, the fund's operating results for the fourth quarter resulted in a net increase in net assets of $30 million and an NAV per share of $15.85, a $0.31 increase from the third quarter and $0.32 above the fund's public offering price per share in its public offering and listing on the New York Stock Exchange in January 2025. As of year-end, the fund had investments on non-accrual status comprising 1% of the total investment portfolio at fair value and 3.9% at cost. As of year-end, the fund's regulatory asset coverage ratio was 2.22, and its net debt to NAV ratio was 0.79. As Dwayne mentioned, the fund's focus remains on achieving a fully invested portfolio through its expanded regulatory leverage capacity, which became effective on January the 29th, 2026. Cory GilbertCFO at MSC Income Fund00:23:01With that, I will now turn the call back to the operator so we can take any questions. Operator00:23:08Thank you. We'll now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up the handset before pressing the star keys. One moment please while we pull for questions. Thank you. Our first question is from Brian McKenna with Citizens. Brian McKennaAnalyst at Citizens00:23:47Great, thanks. It was good to see the strong quarter of originations and then just growth in the overall investment portfolio. Sorry if I missed this, but I am just trying to figure out how much of the decline in interest income quarter-on-quarter was from lower base rates, and then why we did not see really any meaningful offsets there from growth in this portfolio. I am assuming it is timing related, but any thoughts here would be helpful. Cory GilbertCFO at MSC Income Fund00:24:14Sure, Brian. Thanks for the question. I would say to the second part, it is timing. I think a lot of the Cory GilbertCFO at MSC Income Fund00:24:19Investment activity was back-ended. It was in the second half of the quarter, so that is why you do not see as much of a benefit there. You did see some decline from rates, and I would say that was about just over half a million dollars was the decline from a SOFR movement standpoint inside the quarter. Brian McKennaAnalyst at Citizens00:24:40Okay. Got it. That is helpful. Just given the commentary on the main call around the outlook for the lower middle market portfolio and what will likely be some additional markup and realization events across that portfolio, it would seem like some of this is going to flow through to MSIF as well, similar to 3Q and 4Q. Given this dynamic and then the upside that is created in net assets from that, along with low levels of leverage today, is there an opportunity to lean in further on the buyback just so you start accreting even more NAV? Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:25:11Yes. I'd say, Brian, when you look at it, the benefit or the impact to MSC Income Fund will be the same as Main, obviously, just a different allocation. Historically, Main Street had about 80% of lower middle market investments, and MSC Income Fund had 20%. That's assuming they had liquidity at the time. In general, somewhere in that area code would be the sharing between Main Street and MSC Income Fund on historical lower middle market investments. I think when you look at those proceeds, I think we'll just have to continue to look at what's the best use of that capital. Is it to provide a buyback or some other similar activity for the shareholders? Is it to pay out more dividends, or is it to retain that capital if we can do so on a tax cost-efficient basis, retain that capital and grow the portfolio? Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:25:59We haven't had those significant realizations come through yet. If we see that type of activity, those will be the three things we have to weigh and determine what's the best path for the fund and for the shareholders. Brian McKennaAnalyst at Citizens00:26:11Got it. Thank you, Dwayne. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:26:12Thank you. Operator00:26:16Our next question is from Robert Dodd with Raymond James. Robert DoddAnalyst at Raymond James00:26:22Hi. Morning, guys. Several of mine were already answered on the prior call, but I have one here. On the mix, you're at 36% lower middle market at the end of December. Obviously, Mystic exited. Sounds like you're expecting several more realizations from the lower middle market portfolio. There'll be some fair value appreciation probably there. On the other hand, growth in the private loan portfolio as well. I'm just going to pull out a crystal ball first. What do you think the odds are that you get down close to, say, 20% lower middle market by the end of this year or even the end of next year? Because that's where the fee trigger changes for the base management fee. Robert DoddAnalyst at Raymond James00:27:12Do you, with the expectations of realizations in the lower middle market, do you think it is actually going to shift the mix significantly over the next, say, 12 to 24 months? Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:27:24Sure, Robert. Thanks for the question. I'd say similar to some of our comments in the past, I think the movement from where we are today with 36% lower middle market to being at or below 20%, that's going to take an extended period of time, and that's going to be the case for a couple of reasons. One, we think this is a huge positive for the investment portfolio. It's a very diversified portfolio, so there's no individual name on the lower middle market side that I would say is significant. I think the largest name we have from memory is about 3.5%. Even if you exit that, you'd have to have several of those exit. Obviously, trying to drop 16%, 17%, you'd have to have five or six of them exit if they were all the same size. That's the largest. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:28:06You've got a very diversified portfolio. As you exit these investments, it's just going to take time. I think when you look at the other factor, Mystic Logistics is a good example. If you go back and look at the press release that was issued for the Mystic Logistics transaction, we did realize the exit in Mystic Logistics. In that situation, it was a merger with a larger complimentary business. As a result, the fund stayed in that investment for a part of its investment, both debt and equity. Basically moved up the capital structure from a larger equity investment relative to total investment to something that was more first lien senior secured debt and a smaller equity investment. Some of those proceeds stayed invested in that business, which is now called UBM or United Business Mail, I think is what UBM stands for. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:29:02You'll have some of that. Sometimes when we exit our lower middle market companies, it's not a 100% full exit. You could have some rollover or continuation in the new business. Again, like we said in the past, it's going to be a while. I'd say the biggest catalyst for bringing that percentage down is going to be less about the exits of the lower middle market investments. It's going to be more about the growth of the portfolio, first through the additional debt capacity that the fund has, and then after that, any other ability that we have to grow the portfolio. The example would be XYZ company, say it's 3%, that gets proceeds. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:29:38You take those proceeds, and to Brian McKenna's point from earlier, if you retain them as opposed to paying them out and use that retained capital to grow the business, that should get you closer to a 20% percentage over time, as opposed to paying that out and not growing the portfolio. Those would be the ways that we would look at that transition. Robert DoddAnalyst at Raymond James00:29:57Got it. Thank you. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:29:58Thank you, Robert. Operator00:30:02Our next question is from Kenneth Lee with RBC Capital Markets. Kenneth LeeAnalyst at RBC Capital Markets00:30:08Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Just one. In terms of the portfolio leverage there, I wonder if you could just share any updated outlook that you might have, just given the originations pipeline, given the current environment and some of the opportunities you're seeing. Now that you've gone past the regulatory limits. Yeah, thanks. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:30:30Yeah, sure, Ken. Thanks for the question and thanks for joining us. Yeah, I'd say we have the expanded regulatory leverage. We received that just with the passage of time. That happened at the end of January. In conjunction with that, we obviously have to go get the leverage. It's one thing to have the capacity, but you also have to have access to it. I'd say we've been actively working to get additional liquidity. Obviously, we haven't announced anything yet, but I think we feel good about where we sit in terms of the fund's ability to gain additional debt capacity, both secured and unsecured. We just have to go execute to it. I think we feel good about leverage. We feel good about liquidity. We just got to have those activities get finalized and get executed. Kenneth LeeAnalyst at RBC Capital Markets00:31:15Got you. Very helpful there. Just in terms of the private loan side, in terms of some of the more recent deals you've been seeing, some of the more recent investments there. Wonderful if you could talk a little bit more about some of the spreads you're seeing and then where your expectations are on that go forward. Thanks. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:31:36Sure. I'll give super high level and then I'll let Nick add on additional color. I'd say here more recently, the last quarter or two, I'd say that our view or my view is that spreads have started to stabilize. They are less than they were 12 or 18 months ago. Overall, I think the spreads have stabilized. I think that's likely because of some of the uncertainty in the marketplace. I think a bigger factor is just the overall increase in private equity activity as a whole, would be my view. Nick, you give your views or additional color. Nick MeserveManaging Director and Head of the Private Credit Investment Group at MSC Income Fund00:32:02Yeah. I'd say since beginning of third quarter, we've seen spreads kind of stabilizing that five to 550 range. I think what we have also seen is, I'd say the outliers of maybe a deal at SOFR plus 600 or 650. We're seeing less and less of those. Really seeing a tighter band of pricing kind of in that five to 575 range on the wide end. On the smaller end of deals that we focus on, we have not seen a lot of crossover to the 475. I think from a cost of capital perspective in the industry. Once you dip below that, it gets tougher. I think we'll hopefully see that continue into 2026. I think we would expect kind of a flattish year on spreads in that five, 550 range. Kenneth LeeAnalyst at RBC Capital Markets00:32:43Great. Very helpful. Thanks again. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:32:46Thanks, Ken. Operator00:32:50Our next question is from Aaron Sagenowitz with Truist Financial. Arren CyganovichAnalyst at Truist Financial00:32:55Thanks. I was wondering if you could just provide a little detail on how the underlying portfolio companies are doing in general and what you're seeing in terms of revenue, EBITDA growth, trends you're seeing for the portfolio overall. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:33:11Yeah, Aaron, thanks for the question. I'd say in both the lower middle market and the private credit, I would say we're seeing consistent good performance. Nothing significant one direction or other in terms of significant outperformance or underperformance. Obviously, having a big, diverse portfolio, you're always going to have some companies that are outperforming and others that are not performing in the way that we would want them to or where we expected them to. Overall, I wouldn't say there's been anything that is a significant change over the last couple of quarters in either direction. David, Nick, if you guys have a different view or anything you want to add? Nick MeserveManaging Director and Head of the Private Credit Investment Group at MSC Income Fund00:33:43Nothing to add. David MagdolPresident and Chief Investment Officer at MSC Income Fund00:33:44Nothing there. Arren CyganovichAnalyst at Truist Financial00:33:47Thanks. Then on the LMM portfolio kind of coming down over time is, can you remind me if what's the plan long term? Is there always going to be some element of LMM? I mean, I see that as personally view the LMM portfolio as a net positive given the history you've had in terms of equity realizations with a lot of those investments. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:34:15Yeah. I'd say the plan there is that eventually, I just don't know when eventually is. Could be 10, 15, 20 years. Eventually lower middle market as it sits today, will eventually get to a very small amount and eventually zero. The reason I say that is because the fund strategy after the listing at the end of January of 2025, is that it will not make any new lower middle market investments. It will continue to support and participate in any add-on or follow-on investments in existing companies, just like we talked about related to Mystic and UBM. We have also had a number of companies in the fourth quarter and first quarter that have had follow-on investment opportunities, and the fund is going to participate in those on a pro rata basis with Main Street. Because of that, it's going to take a long time. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:35:00Eventually, even though we have a permanent holding period ability on our side at MSC Income Fund and at Main Street, our partners typically don't. They're individuals. They're going to age out. They're going to want to retire. In certain situations, their management team might be able to buy them out and give them full liquidity. Most situations, that likely results in a transaction where the company is sold to a third party, in most situations. That's going to be the driver. It's just going to take a long time. I think longer term, we view that as a positive for the fund. The fund's goal is to produce a very consistent, well-covered dividend, covered by recurring interest income. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:35:41As you have investments in the lower middle market that have a mix of debt and equity as they get repaid, exited, we take those proceeds and deploy them into first lien senior secured private loan investment opportunities. One, you're moving up the capital structure from a risk standpoint. You're also generating more consistent contractual predictable income. We think that's consistent with the fund's plan and that is our expectation, our intent. Longer term, and this is do not have anything planned here, longer term, Main Street's always looking for different avenues or opportunities to create value from an investment standpoint. There's nothing that Main Street's doing today, if Main Street is a platform decides to enter into a new strategy that we think is attractive for Main Street, we would offer that to MSC Income Fund. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:36:26We have to have an agreement with the MSC Income Fund board. If it was attractive to Main Street, I would bet that there's a good chance it's attractive to MSC Income Fund, as long as it's supportive with the fund's goal, as I said earlier, with producing a very consistent, well-covered, kind of highly predictable dividend. I think you could see something else change. Longer term, as we sit here today, it's more status quo, it's just going to take a while for the lower middle market portfolio to roll off. Arren CyganovichAnalyst at Truist Financial00:36:54Thank you. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:36:56You're welcome. Operator00:37:00Our next question is from Doug Harter with UBS. Doug HarterAnalyst at UBS00:37:06Thanks. Mindful of your prior answer about needing to get the leverage facilities, can you just remind us what the target leverage is? Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:37:18Sure. Thanks for your question. Yeah. Our target leverage under the new expanded regulatory leverage range is going to be 1.15-1.25 debt to equity. Doug HarterAnalyst at UBS00:37:32Got it. Do you expect that to change as the mix shifts away from lower middle market? Just how should we think about the inherent leverage of the two strategies? Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:37:46Yeah. I would say as we sit here today, I would not expect it to change. I think we always want to have some reasonable amount of flexibility and liquidity. I think if you start going above that, just from our perspective or my perspective, I think it starts getting tight. I think that 1.15-1.25 is probably a pretty good range. I think as you have the portfolio migrate from lower middle market to private loan, that's when you probably move up inside of that range. As we sit here today, I would not expect us to go above that range. Doug HarterAnalyst at UBS00:38:17Great. Appreciate the answer. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:38:19Thank you. Operator00:38:23Our next question is from Mickey Schlein with Ladenburg Thalmann. Mickey SchleienAnalyst at Ladenburg Thalmann00:38:30Yes. Good morning, everyone. Dwayne, your software allocation at about 7%, it's not particularly high, but it is meaningful. I'd love to hear what your thesis is on the impact of AI on these companies and how have you been underwriting investments in those companies over the last couple of years. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:38:53Sure, Mickey. Thanks for the question, and thanks for joining us. As you said, the fund's exposure to software is very limited. Kind of that mid-single digit type percentage. Inside of that, you've probably heard us say this before, just given your longer term history with Main Street over the years. We, as a platform, are very much value-based or value-focused investors. A software, particularly high growth software, you think about some of the stuff you hear about in the industry, ARR type loans or loans where you expect a bunch of growth before the loan can be serviced from a debt service standpoint. Those are things that just don't fit our profile. They never have, and they don't today. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:39:33That's why when we look at our exposure here, even though we've got kind of a mid-single digit type percentage exposed to software, we think those software names are pretty well protected. Obviously, they and we are talking about their exposures to AI. As we sit here today, there's nothing there that we're overly concerned about. Mickey, if you want to add any additional color there, any different takes on it. Nick MeserveManaging Director and Head of the Private Credit Investment Group at MSC Income Fund00:40:00As Dwayne said, we just didn't really focus. We haven't historically focused on, I'd say, high growth from a software space. We won't do that going forward. I think our exposure we do have there is a little less exposed or we're a little insulated from some of the AI boom, as there's just less growth there. I think we focus a little more on infrastructure software versus pure growth SaaS software. Mickey SchleienAnalyst at Ladenburg Thalmann00:40:23When you refer to infrastructure software, are you referring to sort of enterprise level software that's really ingrained into the portfolio company's operations? Nick MeserveManaging Director and Head of the Private Credit Investment Group at MSC Income Fund00:40:36Yeah, to that degree. I think a lot of times it'll be a different moat they might have or it's more of a niche software for a very specific industry. Those, I think, would be less impacted by AI as you go forward. They eventually will have that impact, but I think that's where we focus historically. Mickey SchleienAnalyst at Ladenburg Thalmann00:40:50Okay. Thank you for that. Those are all my questions this morning. Appreciate your time. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:40:55Thank you, Mickey. Operator00:40:59Thank you. This concludes our question and answer session. I would now like to hand the floor back to management for any closing remarks. Dwayne HyzakCEO at MSC Income Fund00:41:07We just want to thank everyone again for joining us this morning. We appreciate the continued support of the fund shareholders, and we look forward to our next update call in May after the release of our results for the first quarter. Thank you. Operator00:41:20Thank you. This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you again for your participation.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesCory GilbertCFODavid MagdolPresident and Chief Investment OfficerDwayne HyzakCEONick MeserveManaging Director and Head of the Private Credit Investment GroupAnalystsArren CyganovichAnalyst at Truist FinancialBrian McKennaAnalyst at CitizensDoug HarterAnalyst at UBSKenneth LeeAnalyst at RBC Capital MarketsMickey SchleienAnalyst at Ladenburg ThalmannRobert DoddAnalyst at Raymond JamesZach VaughanInvestor Relations at Dennard LascarPowered by