NASDAQ:MLYS Mineralys Therapeutics Q4 2025 Earnings Report $29.28 -0.37 (-1.25%) Closing price 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$29.28 +0.00 (+0.02%) As of 07:48 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Mineralys Therapeutics EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.40Consensus EPS -$0.57Beat/MissBeat by +$0.17One Year Ago EPSN/AMineralys Therapeutics Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AMineralys Therapeutics Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2025Date3/12/2026TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, March 12, 2026Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsMineralys Therapeutics' Q1 2026 earnings is estimated for Wednesday, May 6, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2026 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Mineralys Therapeutics Q4 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMarch 12, 2026 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: FDA accepted the NDA for lorundrostat with a PDUFA action date set for December 22, 2026, marking a material regulatory de‑risking event ahead of potential commercialization. Positive Sentiment: Company cites a comprehensive clinical package — five trials including Launch‑HTN and Advance‑HTN — demonstrating consistent, clinically meaningful blood pressure reductions and a favorable safety profile, which management says supports differentiated positioning for uncontrolled/resistant hypertension. Positive Sentiment: Mineralys ended 2025 with $656.6 million in cash and investments, which management expects is sufficient to fund operations and planned activities into 2028, reducing near‑term financing risk. Neutral Sentiment: Management is actively engaging payers, expanding medical affairs/MSL capabilities and preparing market access ahead of launch while continuing to explore partnership options; timing and structure of any deal remain uncertain and could affect OUS strategy. Negative Sentiment: Explore‑OSA missed its primary endpoint (AHI) despite showing blood pressure benefit, and a direct competitor (AstraZeneca) may launch earlier in 2026 — signaling potential label/indication and competitive risks that could require further data or strategic responses. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallMineralys Therapeutics Q4 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Welcome to the Mineralys Therapeutics fourth quarter and full year 20 conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Dan Ferry of LifeSci Advisors. Please go ahead. Dan FerryManaging Director at LifeSci Advisors00:00:31Thank you, operator. I would like to welcome everyone joining us today for our fourth quarter and full year 2025 conference call. This afternoon, after the close of market trading, we issued a press release providing our fourth quarter and full year 2025 financial results and business updates. A replay of today's call will be available on the investors section of our website approximately one hour after its completion. After our prepared remarks, we will open the call for Q&A. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that this conference call and webcast will contain forward-looking statements about the company. Actual results could differ materially from those stated or implied by these forward-looking statements due to risks and uncertainties associated with the company's business. Dan FerryManaging Director at LifeSci Advisors00:01:15These forward-looking statements are qualified by the cautionary statements contained in today's press release and our SEC filings, including our annual report on Form 10-K and subsequent filings. Please note that these forward-looking statements reflect our opinions only as of today, March 12th, 2026. Except as required by law, we specifically disclaim any obligation to update or revise these forward-looking statements in light of new information or future events. I would now like to turn the call over to Jon Congleton, Chief Executive Officer of Mineralys Therapeutics. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:01:54Thank you, Dan. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to our fourth quarter and full year 2025 financial results and corporate update conference call. I'm joined today by Adam Levy, our Chief Financial Officer, Dr. David Rodman, our Chief Medical Officer, and Eric Warren, our Chief Commercial Officer. I will begin with an overview of the business, our clinical programs and recent milestones, followed by Adam to review our fourth quarter financial results before we open up the call for your questions. We're pleased to have this opportunity to provide a corporate update as this call comes on the heels of our announcing the FDA's acceptance of the NDA for lorundrostat for the treatment of adult patients with hypertension in combination with other antihypertensive drugs. In connection with the acceptance, the FDA assigned a PDUFA target action date of December 22nd, 2026. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:02:51This NDA submission followed a successful clinical program which culminated in the completion of five positive clinical trials that consistently demonstrated clinically meaningful blood pressure reduction, twenty-four-hour control and a favorable safety profile. This comprehensive data set has generated broad interest across the medical community, underscoring the significant clinical need in uncontrolled and resistant hypertension and the desire for innovative solutions that help patients meet their blood pressure goals. The NDA includes the positive data from the Launch-HTN and Advance-HTN pivotal trials, as well as the proof-of-concept trial Explore-CKD and our open-label extension trial, Transform-HTN. Each of these trials demonstrate that lorundrostat maintains a durable and clinically meaningful response across diverse patient populations, a key consideration for its potential as a new treatment for patients with hypertension. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:03:55Uncontrolled and resistant hypertension remain major unmet needs, affecting over 20 million people in the United States and attributed to nearly 700,000 deaths per year. As we have noted previously, roughly 30% of all hypertension patients have dysregulated aldosterone. We are progressively seeing research and updated guidelines that highlight the need to identify and address aldosterone dysregulation in these patients. Our clinical data highlight the differentiated value of targeting aldosterone with an aldosterone synthase inhibitor like lorundrostat, especially when compared to current third- and fourth-line treatment options. To catalyze the successful launch of lorundrostat, we have begun market access planning and payer engagement to ensure the value proposition of lorundrostat is understood and appreciated. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:04:51We have also expanded our medical communications efforts, which will include increased peer-reviewed publications, a larger presence at scientific meetings, and an expanded team of field-based medical science liaisons, which will support broader data dissemination for this potentially transformative therapy. These activities are intended to drive a rapid uptake of lorundrostat and feed into potential partnering opportunities. I would now like to briefly touch on the other development activities we're pursuing to enhance and extend the lorundrostat profile into hypertension with comorbid conditions which are largely driven by inadequately controlled blood pressure and dysregulated aldosterone. Earlier this week, we issued a press release announcing the top line results of our exploratory trial, Explore-OSA. This 4-week trial, which enrolled 48 participants, evaluated the safety and efficacy of lorundrostat in participants with moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnea and hypertension. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:06:00This trial enrolled a high-risk population with an average body mass index of 38. An average apnea-hypopnea index or AHI of 48 and baseline systolic blood pressure of 142 millimeters of mercury. While lorundrostat did not demonstrate a clinically meaningful difference relative to placebo on the primary endpoint, AHI, the trial did show clinically meaningful reductions in blood pressure and a favorable safety profile in this population with difficult to control hypertension. In the pre-planned parallel arm analysis of the first period, the trial demonstrated an 11.1 millimeters of mercury blood pressure reduction with lorundrostat and a 1.0 millimeters of mercury reduction with placebo at four weeks. There was a 6.2 millimeters of mercury placebo adjusted reduction in blood pressure in the crossover analysis. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:07:01Lorundrostat demonstrated a favorable safety profile and was well tolerated with no serum potassium excursions above 5.5 millimoles per liter. Our analysis is ongoing for other endpoints in the trial and will be reported in future publications or medical meetings. Our clinical development strategy has been and will continue to be focused on generating a comprehensive data set that reflects the complexities that physicians face when treating their hypertension patients. We remain focused on fulfilling our mission to develop lorundrostat as a potential best-in-class therapy for patients with uncontrolled or resistant hypertension. We believe the strength of the lorundrostat data generated to date and the significant clinical needs for uncontrolled and resistant hypertension offer substantial opportunity as we prepare for the upcoming milestones. We are continuing to evaluate further clinical development for lorundrostat in comorbidities and other potential indications. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:08:04We will keep you informed on our progress as appropriate. I'll now turn the call over to Adam to review our financial results for the fourth quarter and full year 2025. Adam LevyCFO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:08:18Thank you, Jon. Good afternoon, everyone. Today, I will discuss select portions of our fourth quarter and full year 2025 financial results. Additional details can be found in our Form 10-K, which will be filed with the SEC today, March 12th. We ended the year with cash equivalents and investments of $656.6 million as of December 31st, 2025, compared to $198.2 million as of December 31st, 2024. We believe that our cash equivalents and investments will be sufficient to fund our planned clinical trials and regulatory activities, as well as support corporate operations into 2028. R&D expenses for the year ended December 31st, 2025, were $132 million compared to $168.6 million for the year ended December 31st, 2024. Adam LevyCFO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:09:16R&D expenses for the quarter ended December 31st, 2025, were $24.4 million compared to $44.6 million for the quarter ended December 31st, 2024. The annual decrease in R&D expenses was primarily driven by $49.3 million reduction in preclinical and clinical costs, largely attributable to the conclusion of lorundrostat pivotal program in the second quarter of 2025. The annual decrease was partially offset by increases of $9.9 million in compensation expenses resulting from headcount growth, higher salaries and accrued bonuses, and increased stock-based compensation, as well as $3 million in clinical supply, manufacturing and regulatory costs. G&A expenses were $38.6 million for the year ended December 31st, 2025, compared to $23.8 million for the year ended December 31st, 2024. Adam LevyCFO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:10:19G&A expenses were $13.9 million for the quarter ended December 31st, 2025, compared to $7.2 million for the quarter ended December 31st, 2024. The annual increase in G&A expenses was primarily attributable to $8.9 million in higher compensation expense, driven by headcount growth, higher salaries and accrued bonuses, and increased stock-based compensation. The annual increase was further attributable to $5.3 million in higher professional fees and $0.6 million in other general and administrative expenses. Total other income net was $16 million for the year ended December 31st, 2025, compared to $14.6 million for the year ended December 31, 2024. Adam LevyCFO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:11:11Total other income net was $6 million for the quarter ended December 31st, 2025, compared to $2.8 million for the quarter ended December 31st, 2024. The annual increase was primarily attributable to higher interest earned on investments in money market funds in US Treasuries, resulting from higher average cash balances invested during the year ended December 31, 2025. Net loss was $154.7 million for the year ended December 31st, 2025, compared to $177.8 million for the year ended December 31st, 2024. Net loss was $32.2 million for the quarter ended December 31st, 2025, compared to $48.9 million for the quarter ended December 31st, 2024. The annual decrease was primarily attributable to factors impacting our expenses described earlier. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:12:11With that, I will ask the operator to open the call for questions. Operator? Operator00:12:17Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question will come from Michael DiFiore with Evercore ISI. Michael DiFioreDirector and Equity Research Analyst at Evercore ISI00:12:49Hi, guys. Thanks so much for taking my question, and congrats on all the continued progress. Two commercial questions from me. Now that the potential launch of lorundrostat is roughly six months behind your direct competitor, what are you hoping to learn from this competitive launch that would optimize the success of lorundrostat's launch? Second, could you offer any additional color on the pre-launch payer interactions you've been having? Like, had there been any unexpected changes in anticipated coverage, et cetera? Thank you. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:13:25Yeah, Mike, thanks for the questions. We're obviously excited about the timeline we're on now, the Day 74 letter giving us the PDUFA date. We clearly see a significant market opportunity here with, as we've stated before, about 20 million patients in the United States alone dealing with uncontrolled and resistant hypertension. We're obviously aware that AstraZeneca potentially is gonna be launching in the second quarter. I think there'll be some interesting things to identify as far as how they think about pricing, their footprint in the space. But fundamentally, we think this is a large market opportunity. There's certainly room for two novel therapeutics in what I think may be a transformative class overall. We clearly are very bullish on the profile that we've seen with lorundrostat with its best-in-class profile. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:14:25As it relates to some of the dialogues that we've had with payers, we continue to feel, bullish as it relates to access, particularly where we've targeted, lorundrostat's use. That's that third line or later. We think resistant hypertension is the natural opening space and with experience, both from physician standpoint and demand growing into the third line usage. I think it's also important to point out, and I talked about it in my opening remarks, the comprehensive nature of the dataset that we've built. When we think about resistant hypertension patients, it's rare that they're isolated to only be dealing with elevated blood pressure. There are so many comorbidities these patients are dealing with. Certainly that's why we did the Explore-CKD study. It's why we did the Explore-OSA study. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:15:15Even though we did not achieve a benefit on AHI, we know there's significant overlap over 50% with resistant hypertension in OSA. Being able to show the kind of robust, safe benefit we have on blood pressure in this population, we think will have a significant translation into reduced cardiovascular risk for these patients. Michael DiFioreDirector and Equity Research Analyst at Evercore ISI00:15:41Thanks so much. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:15:44Thanks, Mike. Operator00:15:46Our next question comes from Rich Law with Goldman Sachs. Rich LawResearch Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:15:50Hey, guys. Congrats on the PDUFA day and getting the NDA accepted. A couple questions from me. When you look at the results from the phase II OSA study, do you think the design limited lorundrostat's potential to show benefit in the AHI primary endpoint? I mean, the study was much shorter than the STRN MRA studies, with only four weeks, and you allow CPAP and BiPAP use. Then the study population was also different from MRA trials. It's not clear to me if the study duration and design really tested lorundrostat's effects one way or the other. How confident are you on the finding, and where do you go from here in regards to OSA? Then I have a follow-up. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:16:33Yeah, Rich. Let me give you some opening thoughts, and I'll turn it to Dave. As I noted, you know, the reason we did this study was because we think it's important for the prescribers that are gonna be utilizing lorundrostat to have a clear sense of both efficacy and safety within these complex patients. Being able to show a really robust reduction in BP and doing so safely in these patients that clearly are high risk, particularly the ones that we studied in Explore-OSA with a BMI over 38, with AHI over 48, when severe OSA is ticked off above 30, these are patients that have a pretty high cardiovascular risk when you compound that with elevated blood pressure. For us, it was an important study to complete. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:17:18Again, we believe that we're gonna be able to operate with our existing label within this population just given the fact that they have uncontrolled hypertension and elevated cardiovascular risk. I'll have David talk about some of the design features and his thoughts. David RodmanChief Medical Officer at Mineralys Therapeutics00:17:34Thanks for the question, Rich. Good thoughts. I have a couple of things I wanna say. First of all, directly, was it long enough? It's unclear. It could have taken longer than the four weeks, but I think there's probably a major interaction between that and the actual study population demographics. In other words, we saw these people were extremely obese. They had extremely high AHIs, close to 50, and their BMIs were 28, with many of them as high as 40. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:18:1538. 38 on average. David RodmanChief Medical Officer at Mineralys Therapeutics00:18:18I'm sorry, their AHI. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:18:20AHI was 48, BMI of 38. But please. David RodmanChief Medical Officer at Mineralys Therapeutics00:18:23Okay, sorry. 38. You're right. We think the mechanism here, which is you're fluid overloaded when you lay down, the fluid goes up into the veins of the neck, and that further obstructs the airway. In this population, there's so much extra adipose tissue that it may be that that compartment is already obstructing the airway enough just from that structural issue that you wouldn't see any more with decreasing volume. I think the thing to look at going forward, should we wanna answer the question, is take a more representative population similar to the ones that were used in studies like Eplerenone and Spironolactone and test it again. I wanna make a different point, if you can just give me a minute, which is this. David RodmanChief Medical Officer at Mineralys Therapeutics00:19:16We did this because we wanted to know about AHI, mainly because that's the easier way to register a drug if you want to claim for treatment of OSA. That's not necessarily our objective. Our objective is to know whether we're gonna have a benefit on long-term outcomes in patients with OSA. The interesting point is, if you make AHI less than five with CPAP, it doesn't reduce your blood pressure, and there's no compelling evidence that it makes your long-term cardiovascular outcomes any better. It's really simply a way to look at the regulatory effect. On the other hand, the reduction in blood pressure we saw is comparable to, it predicts rather, and the agency gives you sort of the claim for improved outcomes. David RodmanChief Medical Officer at Mineralys Therapeutics00:20:12At the 10 millimeters of mercury that we saw in the point estimate analysis, that's been shown to have about a 17% reduction in incidence of coronary heart disease, 27% reduction in incidence of stroke, and 28% reduction in incidence of heart failure. What we learned here was that we have the potential to be disease-modifying in sleep apnea. As John mentioned, we can get to that point with the label we have or we're gonna have already for treatment of uncontrolled resistant hypertension. It's been reported that 80% of these patients have uncontrolled or resistant hypertension. That's the long and the short of it. We don't need to prove it works in AHI because our objective isn't to make a therapy for upper airway obstruction. It's to make a therapy that makes these people live longer, better lives. Rich LawResearch Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:21:07Okay, got it. Then, just to kind of, for my second question, I know you guys are still exploring the partnership, but with the PDUFA date now set in December, which is about nine months from now, can you discuss, like, what kind of commercial capability have you been building, and how large is that commercial team now, and what commercial hires are you still holding back, while you're continuing to explore the partnership? Is there any urgency to build a full commercial capability now in case a partnership may not occur until after the PDUFA date? Thank you. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:21:41Yeah. Thanks, Rich. I'll take you back five years ago. We've always made discrete investment choices that support this molecule and put it in its best position to deliver value for the most appropriate patients possible. Early days, that was CMC, that was clinical pharmacology. Where we're at now is we're making those right investment choices, and we began this late last year, as you're aware. We're continuing that now to ensure that we're preparing the market. That's why Eric and his team are beginning to have dialogues with payers. It's why we're expanding our medical affairs capabilities from continued data dissemination. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:22:28I mean, we have just a wealth of clinical data that we've accumulated last year and even as recently as the Explore-OSA that we're gonna continue to put into public forum via medical meetings and publications. We're expanding our MSL team. I don't wanna give numbers, Rich, other than to say we're continuing to do everything we can to ensure a rapid uptake on the potential approval of lorundrostat for uncontrolled and resistant hypertension. I think fundamentally, that's the right thing for us to do because it also becomes very informative and potentially catalyzes those partnering dialogues. We've heard that from potential partners, but we need to make sure that we're continuing to invest in this asset, so upon approval, it does have a rapid uptake and a rapid launch. Rich LawResearch Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:23:21Got it. Thank you. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:23:24Thanks, Richard. Operator00:23:26We'll go next to Seamus Fernandez with Guggenheim Partners. Seamus FernandezSenior Managing Director and Senior Analyst at Guggenheim Partners00:23:31Oh, thanks. Just to follow up on the commercial side of things, can you just help us understand, you know, what you believe the number of reps would be to, you know, launch the lorundrostat effectively versus AstraZeneca? And do you envision having a, you know, sort of differentiated approach to market than AstraZeneca? You know, if there is a differentiated approach, what would that be? Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:24:05Yeah. I don't know that I'll give you a specific number, Seamus, and we're continuing to evaluate that. As you've heard us say before, when we look at where we've developed this molecule third line or later and in the United States, who prescribes there, it's about 60,000 physicians that are responsible for half of the scripts third line or later. So that's kind of a broad way to look at the market. I don't want to give too much on our intended commercial strategy, but I will say that if you look at the comprehensive data set that we have, Advance-HTN confirmed hypertension. That was the study we did with the Cleveland Clinic. Explore-CKD that looks at hypertension and comorbid chronic kidney disease. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:24:51If you look at the OSA population, the data that just came out of the Explore-OSA, that's going to begin to inform how we think about subsegments of physicians that are treating specific types of hypertension with related comorbidities. We'll begin to look at the broad IMS data, but then also in the context of these subsegments that we think can give us rapid uptake within the resistant hypertension population, and then with experience, move rapidly in the third line as well. Seamus FernandezSenior Managing Director and Senior Analyst at Guggenheim Partners00:25:24Great. Maybe just as a follow-up. Is there kind of a timing related, you know, dynamic? How much of a de-risking event, not just for Mineralys, but perhaps for strategics, would you say the availability, the assignment of a PDUFA date actually is, you know, broadly speaking? Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:25:52Yeah. I think each step along this journey are. There's a level of de-risking and a level of increasing value. That began last year with the readout of Advance-HTN and Launch-HTN. It continued with the submission of the NDA last year. I think the Day 74 both acceptance of and PDUFA date for lorundrostat further de-risks the molecule and brings value nearer term. You know, maybe related to that, when is an ideal time to identify a partnership? I think that these partnerships, they have a life of their own, a timeline of their own. Our goal is to really identify a means to generate the greatest value with lorundrostat, which means getting the molecule in front of the most appropriate patients in the United States and in due course outside of the United States. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:26:49Those are all of the things that go into the calculus as we think about maximizing the value of lorundrostat through partnering. Seamus FernandezSenior Managing Director and Senior Analyst at Guggenheim Partners00:27:03Great. Thanks so much. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:27:05Thanks, Seamus. Operator00:27:10I'm moving next to Jason Gerberry with Bank of America. Jason GerberrySenior Analyst at Bank of America00:27:15Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Just wanted to quickly follow up on the payer access discussions. I think the comment was maybe favorable access with a certain segment of payers. I was wondering if you can expand upon that a little bit and just get a sense of your confidence in breadth of quality coverage, 3 L plus, as I guess you've articulated in the past. One CFO question here, just from an R&D perspective, thinking about 2026 R&D relative to 2025, should we be thinking about cash burn mitigation effort, or is 2025 a good run rate for the company? Last one for me is just on the OUS regulatory submissions. Jason GerberrySenior Analyst at Bank of America00:28:03Apologies if I missed this in past commentary from you guys, but is that in any way gated at all by the partnership discussions? If you can give us a sense of, you know, when you anticipate the OUS submissions? Thanks. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:28:15Yeah, thanks. Let me maybe give some quick thought on payer, and then I'll have Eric add some additional color. We've done a great deal of research in this area. Obviously, it's probably one of the most critical vectors to ensure that we get lorundrostat to the appropriate patients with as few barriers as possible. I think we continue to feel very strong about the value proposition of lorundrostat, the need specifically in the resistant hypertension population. We believe that both the combination of appropriate price and rebate is going to create that access. Eric, I don't know if you want to add some additional thoughts. I know your team continues to work aggressively on this. Eric WarrenChief Commercial Officer at Mineralys Therapeutics00:29:02Jason, I'm just back from a large payer conference in Orlando, PCMA, where the team was engaging Medicare as well as commercial payers. I will say we're on their radar. They're very well-aligned with the positioning that John spoke of, and we're now in the midst of scheduling these pre-approval information exchange or PIE discussions. We've got a favorable footprint and interaction, you know, kind of cadence with payers. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:29:39Jason, I think to your second question, Adam, do you want to add some thoughts? Adam LevyCFO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:29:45Yeah. Jason, we haven't intended to give guidance on R&D, but I can tell you that in 2025, we're running a number of trials. We had Launch-HTN, Advance-HTN, Explore-CKD for part of that year, Explore-OSA, plus the open label extension. It was a heavy lift on R&D for us in 2025. When you roll into 2026, we've been wrapping up the costs on the OSA trial. We still have the open label extension running. There may be other R&D that we decide to do this year, but I would expect that there's less R&D activity in 2026 than we had in our 2025, at least our current or existing plans. Does that help? Jason GerberrySenior Analyst at Bank of America00:30:36Yep. Thank you. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:30:39Jason, to your last question, if I recall it right, ex-US and how do partnerships play within that? As we've spoken about in the past, our goal is certainly to try to get lorundrostat to as many patients in the United States as well as outside of the United States as appropriate. We know there are some complexities right now between MFN and tariffs that we're continuing to evaluate. Partnering may play a role in that, and it may play a role, you know, beyond just a co-promotion. This is where co-development becomes an interesting opportunity. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:31:16I think David and his team have done such an excellent job of characterizing lorundrostat, not just in hypertension, but in so many of these related comorbidities that creates an opportunity for us to assess what is the appropriate way to introduce lorundrostat outside of the United States. Is it as a monotherapy? Is it potentially in a fixed-dose combination strategy? Those are still things we're evaluating. Once we've made a solid plan relative to that, we'll certainly be communicating that. Jason GerberrySenior Analyst at Bank of America00:31:46Yeah. Thanks, Jon. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:31:48Thanks, Jason. Operator00:31:51Moving on to Annabel Samimy with Stifel. Annabel SamimyManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Stifel00:31:56Hi. Thanks for taking my question. Just a little bit more on the commercial side. Maybe you can help. I know it's probably too early to talk about pricing. Is there any scenario where the competitor can angle for third line while you're putting yourself in fourth line first? Are you thinking about the possibility of using pricing as a competitive lever? What kind of things do you need to do to get yourself into third line? As a follow-up to that, just with Explore-CKD and Explore-OSA, are you actually seeking to put it in the label, as a differentiating feature or just have the data available for presentation and publication? Thanks. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:32:43Yeah. I think it's too early to give you too much specificity on pricing. I can't really speak to, you know, where AstraZeneca may go from a pricing line of treatment approach. I can tell you as Eric kind of alluded to and I did in my prior comments, that based on the research we've done with payers right now, the value proposition of lorundrostat certainly resonates fourth line with some payers even third line. I think it's gonna be, as I noted, a beachhead at fourth line. That's clearly where there's unmet need. That's clearly where the value proposition resonates. With experience and demand, I think that begins to open up third line. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:33:30You know, we've talked in the past, Annabel, that as a guidance or a frame for pricing, we've always directed to probably more of a SGLT2 branded price point, Entresto price point, broadly at a WAC, but haven't guided as it relates to rebates. To your second question, as I noted in my prepared remarks, we do anticipate having Explore-CKD as part of the NDA application. That'll be part of a negotiation, what portion of that data may be reflected within the label. We believe that the blood pressure reduction data from Explore-CKD is informative for prescribers, and that'll be part of our positioning from a negotiation standpoint. Explore-OSA was not part of the original NDA application. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:34:23That may be part of continued safety updates, but the actual data was not available at the time the NDA submission was made. We do think both of those trials will be very informative to the medical community. We will be using medical meetings, publications, and our medical science liaison team to certainly convey the important messages contained within both of those studies. Annabel SamimyManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Stifel00:34:50Okay. Is there any possibility to share other comorbidities you might be interested in exploring, that could be particularly impacted by hypertension lowering agents? Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:35:09Yeah. I think I'd go a little bit deeper than hypertension agents, very specifically aldosterone-driven conditions. You know, when we talk about 30% of hypertension patients have dysregulated aldosterone, I think by extension that goes into other conditions like CKD, like OSA, as David's spoken about before. Heart failure we've mentioned is a place where clearly aldosterone plays a significant role in the risk profile of those patients. There are some other indications that we continue to look at that we haven't really spoken about yet. As I said in a previous response to a question, we believe that there are significant opportunities. Some of those are ones that we would pursue on our own. I think some of those others are ones that we've you know, thought about having partnering involvement with. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:36:04Yeah. It's clearly at this stage lorundrostat extremely well characterized for what it does to aldosterone, how it safely addresses that, and we think it opens up a lot of other opportunities. As we said in the remarks, as we solidify those development plans, we'll be sure to convey those to the market. Annabel SamimyManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Stifel00:36:24Okay. Thank you. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:36:26Thanks, Annabel. Operator00:36:29Our next question will come from Mohit Bansal with Wells Fargo. Mohit BansalManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Wells Fargo00:36:34Great. Thank you very much for taking my question, and congrats on all the progress. Just one question. Just trying to double-click on the 60,000 prescriber number, Jon, you mentioned. Mohit BansalManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Wells Fargo00:36:46Wondering like, is this primary care heavy or these are specialists that you would be targeting? What sort of role direct-to-consumer marketing type of mechanism could play for a market like this? Thank you. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:37:04Yeah. Mohit, I think it's important that there's two vectors that Eric and his team are looking at, and it's the broad, you know, prescriber data that everybody can look at, the IQVIA data. That's where the 60,000 as a broad target comes from. It's about a 60/40 split, primary care specialty, the bulk of the specialty being cardiologists. Then there's another vector that we're looking at, and that is for those resistant hypertension patients with comorbidities, who's managing those patients? Hypertension and CKD, hypertension and OSA, confirmed hypertension. You know, and even the Black or African American population, because we know we have done a considerable job to make sure we have proper representation within our clinical trials. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:37:54We're taking the broad macro data from a prescribing standpoint, but also informing that with primary market research to see where are the true targets they can really ensure that we're getting lorundrostat as rapidly to as many appropriate patients as possible. I'm sorry, I think you had a second part of your question, Mohit. Mohit BansalManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Wells Fargo00:38:15Yeah, thank you for this. Our second part was more about the direct-to-consumer marketing sort of mechanism. Like what sort of role it could play for a company like yours. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:38:29Yeah. I don't know that we're in a position quite yet to talk about the consumer strategy, but obviously we'll want to be speaking to patients, reiterating the importance of getting their blood pressure under control, seeking different means to do that, whether it's diet, exercise, or therapeutics, and the benefits specifically of lorundrostat, particularly if they have overlapping comorbidities where we have data that can speak to the opportunity for lorundrostat to help them get to goal and subsequently have hopefully longer lives and better lives. Mohit BansalManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Wells Fargo00:39:05Very helpful. Thank you. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:39:07Thanks, Mohit. Operator00:39:10We'll go next to Rami Katkhuda with LifeSci Capital. Rami KatkhudaManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at LifeSci Capital00:39:16Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions as well. I guess I know it was a small study, but did you observe any differential treatment effects in blood pressure reductions or AHI across any kind of key subgroups in Explore-OSA? I guess a particular focus in those receiving and not receiving CPAP. Maybe secondly, I know you touched upon potential future indications. Is the goal to be first in class for those indications, or are they large enough similar to hypertension where it doesn't matter? Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:39:47I'll let David answer the first part, and then I'll address your second one on other indications, Rami. David RodmanChief Medical Officer at Mineralys Therapeutics00:39:52Thanks, Rami. We're in the midst of examining deeper into the data, and one of the things we're doing right now is looking at your question of subsets. You're right, it is a small trial, so it will be hypothesis generating more than proving hypotheses, but that's still really useful. We intend to present that kind of analysis at future publications and meeting presentations. Just stay tuned for that. In terms of the CPAP, about a third of the subjects or a quarter were on CPAP, and we didn't see any difference between those groups. Again, they're pretty small numbers, so I don't wanna hang my hat on that. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:40:39Yeah. Then, Rami, to your follow-up question as it related to. Go ahead. Would you repeat it for me one more time? I wanna make sure I address it specifically. Rami KatkhudaManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at LifeSci Capital00:40:52Yeah. I just wanted to check in and see if those indications, the goal is to be first in class there, or could you kind of pursue larger indications. I know you mentioned heart failure, where they're large enough to encompass multiple winners here in the ASI class? Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:41:07Yeah. I think what our intent is to not be a follower. What do I mean by that? We know that dapagliflozin is gonna be generic potentially this year. I think some of what's being done with the ASIs tend to be more lifecycle management combined with an SGLT2. I don't know that we're looking to frankly get into that mud fight. I think there's gonna be ample opportunity and with the data that we have for physicians to use lorundrostat with the SGLT2 of choice if patients have an overlapping comorbidity like CKD with their hypertension. As I noted in a previous response, we know that dysregulated aldosterone plays a significant role across the spectrum of cardiorenal metabolic disorders. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:41:59That's what's informing how we think about where is the white space, where is the opportunity for us to take what we believe to be the best-in-class aldosterone synthase inhibitor and either alone or in some distinct combinations, bringing forward solutions for those patients. Rami KatkhudaManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at LifeSci Capital00:42:20Got it. Thank you very much. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:42:23Mm-hmm. Operator00:42:25Going next to Dennis Ding with Jefferies. Georgia BankEquity Research Analyst at Jefferies00:42:30Hi. Thank you for taking our questions. This is Georgia Bank on the line for Dennis Ding. Maybe a little bit more on the potential partnerships and if you could talk about what an ideal partnership looks like in terms of capabilities and also creative deal structuring. Georgia BankEquity Research Analyst at Jefferies00:42:49Obviously the commercial infrastructure is important, but what other nuances are important to you maybe in terms of R&D funding or bigger indications in payer relationships? I know that you mentioned that there's opportunity in pursuing some indications on your own and others involved, maybe partnering on it. Any color there would be helpful. Thank you. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:43:11Thanks, Georgia. No, it's a good question, and I'll repeat what I've said in the past. We would love to find a partner that sees the opportunity with lorundrostat the way we do. How is that? That is, with the best-in-class aldosterone synthase inhibitor in the near term generating significant value for patients, for physicians, and for the healthcare community writ large in helping to control uncontrolled and resistant hypertension. Then also more broadly, fully realizing the value of the asset from a development standpoint. Co-development, I'm not gonna talk about what kind of deal structures that would look like, but really, extending the value of lorundrostat beyond hypertension and some of its related comorbidities. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:44:00Within that, becomes addressing the complexity that exists just right now with branded assets that you want to get into the hands of patients outside of the United States. It's really what's been informing the dialogues that we've had is finding a partner that thinks more holistically about the opportunity. As we've stated before, lorundrostat has excellent IP out to 2035, patent term extension probably to 2039. There's a significant time period there to fully realize the value of this asset, and bring that value to patients. Georgia BankEquity Research Analyst at Jefferies00:44:39Got it. Appreciate it. Thank you. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:44:43Thanks, Georgia. Operator00:44:45This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the floor back over to Jon Congleton for closing comments. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:44:53Thank you, operator. We believe the strength of the clinical results for lorundrostat show the potential benefit for uncontrolled and resistant hypertension and those related comorbidities. This is an exciting time for our team, the patients with hypertension who may benefit from treatment with lorundrostat, the physicians and researchers that have worked so hard in support of bringing lorundrostat through our clinical trial program, and our shareholders. We look forward to sharing updates with you in the incoming quarters. With that, I'll say thank you, operator, and thank you to everyone for joining us today. We'll now close the call. Operator00:45:30Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation. This concludes today's teleconference. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Welcome to the Mineralys Therapeutics fourth quarter and full year 20 conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Dan Ferry of LifeSci Advisors. Please go ahead. Dan FerryManaging Director at LifeSci Advisors00:00:31Thank you, operator. I would like to welcome everyone joining us today for our fourth quarter and full year 2025 conference call. This afternoon, after the close of market trading, we issued a press release providing our fourth quarter and full year 2025 financial results and business updates. A replay of today's call will be available on the investors section of our website approximately one hour after its completion. After our prepared remarks, we will open the call for Q&A. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that this conference call and webcast will contain forward-looking statements about the company. Actual results could differ materially from those stated or implied by these forward-looking statements due to risks and uncertainties associated with the company's business. Dan FerryManaging Director at LifeSci Advisors00:01:15These forward-looking statements are qualified by the cautionary statements contained in today's press release and our SEC filings, including our annual report on Form 10-K and subsequent filings. Please note that these forward-looking statements reflect our opinions only as of today, March 12th, 2026. Except as required by law, we specifically disclaim any obligation to update or revise these forward-looking statements in light of new information or future events. I would now like to turn the call over to Jon Congleton, Chief Executive Officer of Mineralys Therapeutics. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:01:54Thank you, Dan. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to our fourth quarter and full year 2025 financial results and corporate update conference call. I'm joined today by Adam Levy, our Chief Financial Officer, Dr. David Rodman, our Chief Medical Officer, and Eric Warren, our Chief Commercial Officer. I will begin with an overview of the business, our clinical programs and recent milestones, followed by Adam to review our fourth quarter financial results before we open up the call for your questions. We're pleased to have this opportunity to provide a corporate update as this call comes on the heels of our announcing the FDA's acceptance of the NDA for lorundrostat for the treatment of adult patients with hypertension in combination with other antihypertensive drugs. In connection with the acceptance, the FDA assigned a PDUFA target action date of December 22nd, 2026. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:02:51This NDA submission followed a successful clinical program which culminated in the completion of five positive clinical trials that consistently demonstrated clinically meaningful blood pressure reduction, twenty-four-hour control and a favorable safety profile. This comprehensive data set has generated broad interest across the medical community, underscoring the significant clinical need in uncontrolled and resistant hypertension and the desire for innovative solutions that help patients meet their blood pressure goals. The NDA includes the positive data from the Launch-HTN and Advance-HTN pivotal trials, as well as the proof-of-concept trial Explore-CKD and our open-label extension trial, Transform-HTN. Each of these trials demonstrate that lorundrostat maintains a durable and clinically meaningful response across diverse patient populations, a key consideration for its potential as a new treatment for patients with hypertension. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:03:55Uncontrolled and resistant hypertension remain major unmet needs, affecting over 20 million people in the United States and attributed to nearly 700,000 deaths per year. As we have noted previously, roughly 30% of all hypertension patients have dysregulated aldosterone. We are progressively seeing research and updated guidelines that highlight the need to identify and address aldosterone dysregulation in these patients. Our clinical data highlight the differentiated value of targeting aldosterone with an aldosterone synthase inhibitor like lorundrostat, especially when compared to current third- and fourth-line treatment options. To catalyze the successful launch of lorundrostat, we have begun market access planning and payer engagement to ensure the value proposition of lorundrostat is understood and appreciated. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:04:51We have also expanded our medical communications efforts, which will include increased peer-reviewed publications, a larger presence at scientific meetings, and an expanded team of field-based medical science liaisons, which will support broader data dissemination for this potentially transformative therapy. These activities are intended to drive a rapid uptake of lorundrostat and feed into potential partnering opportunities. I would now like to briefly touch on the other development activities we're pursuing to enhance and extend the lorundrostat profile into hypertension with comorbid conditions which are largely driven by inadequately controlled blood pressure and dysregulated aldosterone. Earlier this week, we issued a press release announcing the top line results of our exploratory trial, Explore-OSA. This 4-week trial, which enrolled 48 participants, evaluated the safety and efficacy of lorundrostat in participants with moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnea and hypertension. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:06:00This trial enrolled a high-risk population with an average body mass index of 38. An average apnea-hypopnea index or AHI of 48 and baseline systolic blood pressure of 142 millimeters of mercury. While lorundrostat did not demonstrate a clinically meaningful difference relative to placebo on the primary endpoint, AHI, the trial did show clinically meaningful reductions in blood pressure and a favorable safety profile in this population with difficult to control hypertension. In the pre-planned parallel arm analysis of the first period, the trial demonstrated an 11.1 millimeters of mercury blood pressure reduction with lorundrostat and a 1.0 millimeters of mercury reduction with placebo at four weeks. There was a 6.2 millimeters of mercury placebo adjusted reduction in blood pressure in the crossover analysis. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:07:01Lorundrostat demonstrated a favorable safety profile and was well tolerated with no serum potassium excursions above 5.5 millimoles per liter. Our analysis is ongoing for other endpoints in the trial and will be reported in future publications or medical meetings. Our clinical development strategy has been and will continue to be focused on generating a comprehensive data set that reflects the complexities that physicians face when treating their hypertension patients. We remain focused on fulfilling our mission to develop lorundrostat as a potential best-in-class therapy for patients with uncontrolled or resistant hypertension. We believe the strength of the lorundrostat data generated to date and the significant clinical needs for uncontrolled and resistant hypertension offer substantial opportunity as we prepare for the upcoming milestones. We are continuing to evaluate further clinical development for lorundrostat in comorbidities and other potential indications. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:08:04We will keep you informed on our progress as appropriate. I'll now turn the call over to Adam to review our financial results for the fourth quarter and full year 2025. Adam LevyCFO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:08:18Thank you, Jon. Good afternoon, everyone. Today, I will discuss select portions of our fourth quarter and full year 2025 financial results. Additional details can be found in our Form 10-K, which will be filed with the SEC today, March 12th. We ended the year with cash equivalents and investments of $656.6 million as of December 31st, 2025, compared to $198.2 million as of December 31st, 2024. We believe that our cash equivalents and investments will be sufficient to fund our planned clinical trials and regulatory activities, as well as support corporate operations into 2028. R&D expenses for the year ended December 31st, 2025, were $132 million compared to $168.6 million for the year ended December 31st, 2024. Adam LevyCFO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:09:16R&D expenses for the quarter ended December 31st, 2025, were $24.4 million compared to $44.6 million for the quarter ended December 31st, 2024. The annual decrease in R&D expenses was primarily driven by $49.3 million reduction in preclinical and clinical costs, largely attributable to the conclusion of lorundrostat pivotal program in the second quarter of 2025. The annual decrease was partially offset by increases of $9.9 million in compensation expenses resulting from headcount growth, higher salaries and accrued bonuses, and increased stock-based compensation, as well as $3 million in clinical supply, manufacturing and regulatory costs. G&A expenses were $38.6 million for the year ended December 31st, 2025, compared to $23.8 million for the year ended December 31st, 2024. Adam LevyCFO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:10:19G&A expenses were $13.9 million for the quarter ended December 31st, 2025, compared to $7.2 million for the quarter ended December 31st, 2024. The annual increase in G&A expenses was primarily attributable to $8.9 million in higher compensation expense, driven by headcount growth, higher salaries and accrued bonuses, and increased stock-based compensation. The annual increase was further attributable to $5.3 million in higher professional fees and $0.6 million in other general and administrative expenses. Total other income net was $16 million for the year ended December 31st, 2025, compared to $14.6 million for the year ended December 31, 2024. Adam LevyCFO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:11:11Total other income net was $6 million for the quarter ended December 31st, 2025, compared to $2.8 million for the quarter ended December 31st, 2024. The annual increase was primarily attributable to higher interest earned on investments in money market funds in US Treasuries, resulting from higher average cash balances invested during the year ended December 31, 2025. Net loss was $154.7 million for the year ended December 31st, 2025, compared to $177.8 million for the year ended December 31st, 2024. Net loss was $32.2 million for the quarter ended December 31st, 2025, compared to $48.9 million for the quarter ended December 31st, 2024. The annual decrease was primarily attributable to factors impacting our expenses described earlier. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:12:11With that, I will ask the operator to open the call for questions. Operator? Operator00:12:17Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question will come from Michael DiFiore with Evercore ISI. Michael DiFioreDirector and Equity Research Analyst at Evercore ISI00:12:49Hi, guys. Thanks so much for taking my question, and congrats on all the continued progress. Two commercial questions from me. Now that the potential launch of lorundrostat is roughly six months behind your direct competitor, what are you hoping to learn from this competitive launch that would optimize the success of lorundrostat's launch? Second, could you offer any additional color on the pre-launch payer interactions you've been having? Like, had there been any unexpected changes in anticipated coverage, et cetera? Thank you. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:13:25Yeah, Mike, thanks for the questions. We're obviously excited about the timeline we're on now, the Day 74 letter giving us the PDUFA date. We clearly see a significant market opportunity here with, as we've stated before, about 20 million patients in the United States alone dealing with uncontrolled and resistant hypertension. We're obviously aware that AstraZeneca potentially is gonna be launching in the second quarter. I think there'll be some interesting things to identify as far as how they think about pricing, their footprint in the space. But fundamentally, we think this is a large market opportunity. There's certainly room for two novel therapeutics in what I think may be a transformative class overall. We clearly are very bullish on the profile that we've seen with lorundrostat with its best-in-class profile. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:14:25As it relates to some of the dialogues that we've had with payers, we continue to feel, bullish as it relates to access, particularly where we've targeted, lorundrostat's use. That's that third line or later. We think resistant hypertension is the natural opening space and with experience, both from physician standpoint and demand growing into the third line usage. I think it's also important to point out, and I talked about it in my opening remarks, the comprehensive nature of the dataset that we've built. When we think about resistant hypertension patients, it's rare that they're isolated to only be dealing with elevated blood pressure. There are so many comorbidities these patients are dealing with. Certainly that's why we did the Explore-CKD study. It's why we did the Explore-OSA study. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:15:15Even though we did not achieve a benefit on AHI, we know there's significant overlap over 50% with resistant hypertension in OSA. Being able to show the kind of robust, safe benefit we have on blood pressure in this population, we think will have a significant translation into reduced cardiovascular risk for these patients. Michael DiFioreDirector and Equity Research Analyst at Evercore ISI00:15:41Thanks so much. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:15:44Thanks, Mike. Operator00:15:46Our next question comes from Rich Law with Goldman Sachs. Rich LawResearch Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:15:50Hey, guys. Congrats on the PDUFA day and getting the NDA accepted. A couple questions from me. When you look at the results from the phase II OSA study, do you think the design limited lorundrostat's potential to show benefit in the AHI primary endpoint? I mean, the study was much shorter than the STRN MRA studies, with only four weeks, and you allow CPAP and BiPAP use. Then the study population was also different from MRA trials. It's not clear to me if the study duration and design really tested lorundrostat's effects one way or the other. How confident are you on the finding, and where do you go from here in regards to OSA? Then I have a follow-up. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:16:33Yeah, Rich. Let me give you some opening thoughts, and I'll turn it to Dave. As I noted, you know, the reason we did this study was because we think it's important for the prescribers that are gonna be utilizing lorundrostat to have a clear sense of both efficacy and safety within these complex patients. Being able to show a really robust reduction in BP and doing so safely in these patients that clearly are high risk, particularly the ones that we studied in Explore-OSA with a BMI over 38, with AHI over 48, when severe OSA is ticked off above 30, these are patients that have a pretty high cardiovascular risk when you compound that with elevated blood pressure. For us, it was an important study to complete. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:17:18Again, we believe that we're gonna be able to operate with our existing label within this population just given the fact that they have uncontrolled hypertension and elevated cardiovascular risk. I'll have David talk about some of the design features and his thoughts. David RodmanChief Medical Officer at Mineralys Therapeutics00:17:34Thanks for the question, Rich. Good thoughts. I have a couple of things I wanna say. First of all, directly, was it long enough? It's unclear. It could have taken longer than the four weeks, but I think there's probably a major interaction between that and the actual study population demographics. In other words, we saw these people were extremely obese. They had extremely high AHIs, close to 50, and their BMIs were 28, with many of them as high as 40. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:18:1538. 38 on average. David RodmanChief Medical Officer at Mineralys Therapeutics00:18:18I'm sorry, their AHI. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:18:20AHI was 48, BMI of 38. But please. David RodmanChief Medical Officer at Mineralys Therapeutics00:18:23Okay, sorry. 38. You're right. We think the mechanism here, which is you're fluid overloaded when you lay down, the fluid goes up into the veins of the neck, and that further obstructs the airway. In this population, there's so much extra adipose tissue that it may be that that compartment is already obstructing the airway enough just from that structural issue that you wouldn't see any more with decreasing volume. I think the thing to look at going forward, should we wanna answer the question, is take a more representative population similar to the ones that were used in studies like Eplerenone and Spironolactone and test it again. I wanna make a different point, if you can just give me a minute, which is this. David RodmanChief Medical Officer at Mineralys Therapeutics00:19:16We did this because we wanted to know about AHI, mainly because that's the easier way to register a drug if you want to claim for treatment of OSA. That's not necessarily our objective. Our objective is to know whether we're gonna have a benefit on long-term outcomes in patients with OSA. The interesting point is, if you make AHI less than five with CPAP, it doesn't reduce your blood pressure, and there's no compelling evidence that it makes your long-term cardiovascular outcomes any better. It's really simply a way to look at the regulatory effect. On the other hand, the reduction in blood pressure we saw is comparable to, it predicts rather, and the agency gives you sort of the claim for improved outcomes. David RodmanChief Medical Officer at Mineralys Therapeutics00:20:12At the 10 millimeters of mercury that we saw in the point estimate analysis, that's been shown to have about a 17% reduction in incidence of coronary heart disease, 27% reduction in incidence of stroke, and 28% reduction in incidence of heart failure. What we learned here was that we have the potential to be disease-modifying in sleep apnea. As John mentioned, we can get to that point with the label we have or we're gonna have already for treatment of uncontrolled resistant hypertension. It's been reported that 80% of these patients have uncontrolled or resistant hypertension. That's the long and the short of it. We don't need to prove it works in AHI because our objective isn't to make a therapy for upper airway obstruction. It's to make a therapy that makes these people live longer, better lives. Rich LawResearch Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:21:07Okay, got it. Then, just to kind of, for my second question, I know you guys are still exploring the partnership, but with the PDUFA date now set in December, which is about nine months from now, can you discuss, like, what kind of commercial capability have you been building, and how large is that commercial team now, and what commercial hires are you still holding back, while you're continuing to explore the partnership? Is there any urgency to build a full commercial capability now in case a partnership may not occur until after the PDUFA date? Thank you. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:21:41Yeah. Thanks, Rich. I'll take you back five years ago. We've always made discrete investment choices that support this molecule and put it in its best position to deliver value for the most appropriate patients possible. Early days, that was CMC, that was clinical pharmacology. Where we're at now is we're making those right investment choices, and we began this late last year, as you're aware. We're continuing that now to ensure that we're preparing the market. That's why Eric and his team are beginning to have dialogues with payers. It's why we're expanding our medical affairs capabilities from continued data dissemination. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:22:28I mean, we have just a wealth of clinical data that we've accumulated last year and even as recently as the Explore-OSA that we're gonna continue to put into public forum via medical meetings and publications. We're expanding our MSL team. I don't wanna give numbers, Rich, other than to say we're continuing to do everything we can to ensure a rapid uptake on the potential approval of lorundrostat for uncontrolled and resistant hypertension. I think fundamentally, that's the right thing for us to do because it also becomes very informative and potentially catalyzes those partnering dialogues. We've heard that from potential partners, but we need to make sure that we're continuing to invest in this asset, so upon approval, it does have a rapid uptake and a rapid launch. Rich LawResearch Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:23:21Got it. Thank you. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:23:24Thanks, Richard. Operator00:23:26We'll go next to Seamus Fernandez with Guggenheim Partners. Seamus FernandezSenior Managing Director and Senior Analyst at Guggenheim Partners00:23:31Oh, thanks. Just to follow up on the commercial side of things, can you just help us understand, you know, what you believe the number of reps would be to, you know, launch the lorundrostat effectively versus AstraZeneca? And do you envision having a, you know, sort of differentiated approach to market than AstraZeneca? You know, if there is a differentiated approach, what would that be? Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:24:05Yeah. I don't know that I'll give you a specific number, Seamus, and we're continuing to evaluate that. As you've heard us say before, when we look at where we've developed this molecule third line or later and in the United States, who prescribes there, it's about 60,000 physicians that are responsible for half of the scripts third line or later. So that's kind of a broad way to look at the market. I don't want to give too much on our intended commercial strategy, but I will say that if you look at the comprehensive data set that we have, Advance-HTN confirmed hypertension. That was the study we did with the Cleveland Clinic. Explore-CKD that looks at hypertension and comorbid chronic kidney disease. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:24:51If you look at the OSA population, the data that just came out of the Explore-OSA, that's going to begin to inform how we think about subsegments of physicians that are treating specific types of hypertension with related comorbidities. We'll begin to look at the broad IMS data, but then also in the context of these subsegments that we think can give us rapid uptake within the resistant hypertension population, and then with experience, move rapidly in the third line as well. Seamus FernandezSenior Managing Director and Senior Analyst at Guggenheim Partners00:25:24Great. Maybe just as a follow-up. Is there kind of a timing related, you know, dynamic? How much of a de-risking event, not just for Mineralys, but perhaps for strategics, would you say the availability, the assignment of a PDUFA date actually is, you know, broadly speaking? Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:25:52Yeah. I think each step along this journey are. There's a level of de-risking and a level of increasing value. That began last year with the readout of Advance-HTN and Launch-HTN. It continued with the submission of the NDA last year. I think the Day 74 both acceptance of and PDUFA date for lorundrostat further de-risks the molecule and brings value nearer term. You know, maybe related to that, when is an ideal time to identify a partnership? I think that these partnerships, they have a life of their own, a timeline of their own. Our goal is to really identify a means to generate the greatest value with lorundrostat, which means getting the molecule in front of the most appropriate patients in the United States and in due course outside of the United States. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:26:49Those are all of the things that go into the calculus as we think about maximizing the value of lorundrostat through partnering. Seamus FernandezSenior Managing Director and Senior Analyst at Guggenheim Partners00:27:03Great. Thanks so much. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:27:05Thanks, Seamus. Operator00:27:10I'm moving next to Jason Gerberry with Bank of America. Jason GerberrySenior Analyst at Bank of America00:27:15Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Just wanted to quickly follow up on the payer access discussions. I think the comment was maybe favorable access with a certain segment of payers. I was wondering if you can expand upon that a little bit and just get a sense of your confidence in breadth of quality coverage, 3 L plus, as I guess you've articulated in the past. One CFO question here, just from an R&D perspective, thinking about 2026 R&D relative to 2025, should we be thinking about cash burn mitigation effort, or is 2025 a good run rate for the company? Last one for me is just on the OUS regulatory submissions. Jason GerberrySenior Analyst at Bank of America00:28:03Apologies if I missed this in past commentary from you guys, but is that in any way gated at all by the partnership discussions? If you can give us a sense of, you know, when you anticipate the OUS submissions? Thanks. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:28:15Yeah, thanks. Let me maybe give some quick thought on payer, and then I'll have Eric add some additional color. We've done a great deal of research in this area. Obviously, it's probably one of the most critical vectors to ensure that we get lorundrostat to the appropriate patients with as few barriers as possible. I think we continue to feel very strong about the value proposition of lorundrostat, the need specifically in the resistant hypertension population. We believe that both the combination of appropriate price and rebate is going to create that access. Eric, I don't know if you want to add some additional thoughts. I know your team continues to work aggressively on this. Eric WarrenChief Commercial Officer at Mineralys Therapeutics00:29:02Jason, I'm just back from a large payer conference in Orlando, PCMA, where the team was engaging Medicare as well as commercial payers. I will say we're on their radar. They're very well-aligned with the positioning that John spoke of, and we're now in the midst of scheduling these pre-approval information exchange or PIE discussions. We've got a favorable footprint and interaction, you know, kind of cadence with payers. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:29:39Jason, I think to your second question, Adam, do you want to add some thoughts? Adam LevyCFO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:29:45Yeah. Jason, we haven't intended to give guidance on R&D, but I can tell you that in 2025, we're running a number of trials. We had Launch-HTN, Advance-HTN, Explore-CKD for part of that year, Explore-OSA, plus the open label extension. It was a heavy lift on R&D for us in 2025. When you roll into 2026, we've been wrapping up the costs on the OSA trial. We still have the open label extension running. There may be other R&D that we decide to do this year, but I would expect that there's less R&D activity in 2026 than we had in our 2025, at least our current or existing plans. Does that help? Jason GerberrySenior Analyst at Bank of America00:30:36Yep. Thank you. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:30:39Jason, to your last question, if I recall it right, ex-US and how do partnerships play within that? As we've spoken about in the past, our goal is certainly to try to get lorundrostat to as many patients in the United States as well as outside of the United States as appropriate. We know there are some complexities right now between MFN and tariffs that we're continuing to evaluate. Partnering may play a role in that, and it may play a role, you know, beyond just a co-promotion. This is where co-development becomes an interesting opportunity. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:31:16I think David and his team have done such an excellent job of characterizing lorundrostat, not just in hypertension, but in so many of these related comorbidities that creates an opportunity for us to assess what is the appropriate way to introduce lorundrostat outside of the United States. Is it as a monotherapy? Is it potentially in a fixed-dose combination strategy? Those are still things we're evaluating. Once we've made a solid plan relative to that, we'll certainly be communicating that. Jason GerberrySenior Analyst at Bank of America00:31:46Yeah. Thanks, Jon. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:31:48Thanks, Jason. Operator00:31:51Moving on to Annabel Samimy with Stifel. Annabel SamimyManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Stifel00:31:56Hi. Thanks for taking my question. Just a little bit more on the commercial side. Maybe you can help. I know it's probably too early to talk about pricing. Is there any scenario where the competitor can angle for third line while you're putting yourself in fourth line first? Are you thinking about the possibility of using pricing as a competitive lever? What kind of things do you need to do to get yourself into third line? As a follow-up to that, just with Explore-CKD and Explore-OSA, are you actually seeking to put it in the label, as a differentiating feature or just have the data available for presentation and publication? Thanks. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:32:43Yeah. I think it's too early to give you too much specificity on pricing. I can't really speak to, you know, where AstraZeneca may go from a pricing line of treatment approach. I can tell you as Eric kind of alluded to and I did in my prior comments, that based on the research we've done with payers right now, the value proposition of lorundrostat certainly resonates fourth line with some payers even third line. I think it's gonna be, as I noted, a beachhead at fourth line. That's clearly where there's unmet need. That's clearly where the value proposition resonates. With experience and demand, I think that begins to open up third line. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:33:30You know, we've talked in the past, Annabel, that as a guidance or a frame for pricing, we've always directed to probably more of a SGLT2 branded price point, Entresto price point, broadly at a WAC, but haven't guided as it relates to rebates. To your second question, as I noted in my prepared remarks, we do anticipate having Explore-CKD as part of the NDA application. That'll be part of a negotiation, what portion of that data may be reflected within the label. We believe that the blood pressure reduction data from Explore-CKD is informative for prescribers, and that'll be part of our positioning from a negotiation standpoint. Explore-OSA was not part of the original NDA application. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:34:23That may be part of continued safety updates, but the actual data was not available at the time the NDA submission was made. We do think both of those trials will be very informative to the medical community. We will be using medical meetings, publications, and our medical science liaison team to certainly convey the important messages contained within both of those studies. Annabel SamimyManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Stifel00:34:50Okay. Is there any possibility to share other comorbidities you might be interested in exploring, that could be particularly impacted by hypertension lowering agents? Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:35:09Yeah. I think I'd go a little bit deeper than hypertension agents, very specifically aldosterone-driven conditions. You know, when we talk about 30% of hypertension patients have dysregulated aldosterone, I think by extension that goes into other conditions like CKD, like OSA, as David's spoken about before. Heart failure we've mentioned is a place where clearly aldosterone plays a significant role in the risk profile of those patients. There are some other indications that we continue to look at that we haven't really spoken about yet. As I said in a previous response to a question, we believe that there are significant opportunities. Some of those are ones that we would pursue on our own. I think some of those others are ones that we've you know, thought about having partnering involvement with. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:36:04Yeah. It's clearly at this stage lorundrostat extremely well characterized for what it does to aldosterone, how it safely addresses that, and we think it opens up a lot of other opportunities. As we said in the remarks, as we solidify those development plans, we'll be sure to convey those to the market. Annabel SamimyManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Stifel00:36:24Okay. Thank you. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:36:26Thanks, Annabel. Operator00:36:29Our next question will come from Mohit Bansal with Wells Fargo. Mohit BansalManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Wells Fargo00:36:34Great. Thank you very much for taking my question, and congrats on all the progress. Just one question. Just trying to double-click on the 60,000 prescriber number, Jon, you mentioned. Mohit BansalManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Wells Fargo00:36:46Wondering like, is this primary care heavy or these are specialists that you would be targeting? What sort of role direct-to-consumer marketing type of mechanism could play for a market like this? Thank you. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:37:04Yeah. Mohit, I think it's important that there's two vectors that Eric and his team are looking at, and it's the broad, you know, prescriber data that everybody can look at, the IQVIA data. That's where the 60,000 as a broad target comes from. It's about a 60/40 split, primary care specialty, the bulk of the specialty being cardiologists. Then there's another vector that we're looking at, and that is for those resistant hypertension patients with comorbidities, who's managing those patients? Hypertension and CKD, hypertension and OSA, confirmed hypertension. You know, and even the Black or African American population, because we know we have done a considerable job to make sure we have proper representation within our clinical trials. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:37:54We're taking the broad macro data from a prescribing standpoint, but also informing that with primary market research to see where are the true targets they can really ensure that we're getting lorundrostat as rapidly to as many appropriate patients as possible. I'm sorry, I think you had a second part of your question, Mohit. Mohit BansalManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Wells Fargo00:38:15Yeah, thank you for this. Our second part was more about the direct-to-consumer marketing sort of mechanism. Like what sort of role it could play for a company like yours. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:38:29Yeah. I don't know that we're in a position quite yet to talk about the consumer strategy, but obviously we'll want to be speaking to patients, reiterating the importance of getting their blood pressure under control, seeking different means to do that, whether it's diet, exercise, or therapeutics, and the benefits specifically of lorundrostat, particularly if they have overlapping comorbidities where we have data that can speak to the opportunity for lorundrostat to help them get to goal and subsequently have hopefully longer lives and better lives. Mohit BansalManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Wells Fargo00:39:05Very helpful. Thank you. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:39:07Thanks, Mohit. Operator00:39:10We'll go next to Rami Katkhuda with LifeSci Capital. Rami KatkhudaManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at LifeSci Capital00:39:16Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions as well. I guess I know it was a small study, but did you observe any differential treatment effects in blood pressure reductions or AHI across any kind of key subgroups in Explore-OSA? I guess a particular focus in those receiving and not receiving CPAP. Maybe secondly, I know you touched upon potential future indications. Is the goal to be first in class for those indications, or are they large enough similar to hypertension where it doesn't matter? Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:39:47I'll let David answer the first part, and then I'll address your second one on other indications, Rami. David RodmanChief Medical Officer at Mineralys Therapeutics00:39:52Thanks, Rami. We're in the midst of examining deeper into the data, and one of the things we're doing right now is looking at your question of subsets. You're right, it is a small trial, so it will be hypothesis generating more than proving hypotheses, but that's still really useful. We intend to present that kind of analysis at future publications and meeting presentations. Just stay tuned for that. In terms of the CPAP, about a third of the subjects or a quarter were on CPAP, and we didn't see any difference between those groups. Again, they're pretty small numbers, so I don't wanna hang my hat on that. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:40:39Yeah. Then, Rami, to your follow-up question as it related to. Go ahead. Would you repeat it for me one more time? I wanna make sure I address it specifically. Rami KatkhudaManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at LifeSci Capital00:40:52Yeah. I just wanted to check in and see if those indications, the goal is to be first in class there, or could you kind of pursue larger indications. I know you mentioned heart failure, where they're large enough to encompass multiple winners here in the ASI class? Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:41:07Yeah. I think what our intent is to not be a follower. What do I mean by that? We know that dapagliflozin is gonna be generic potentially this year. I think some of what's being done with the ASIs tend to be more lifecycle management combined with an SGLT2. I don't know that we're looking to frankly get into that mud fight. I think there's gonna be ample opportunity and with the data that we have for physicians to use lorundrostat with the SGLT2 of choice if patients have an overlapping comorbidity like CKD with their hypertension. As I noted in a previous response, we know that dysregulated aldosterone plays a significant role across the spectrum of cardiorenal metabolic disorders. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:41:59That's what's informing how we think about where is the white space, where is the opportunity for us to take what we believe to be the best-in-class aldosterone synthase inhibitor and either alone or in some distinct combinations, bringing forward solutions for those patients. Rami KatkhudaManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at LifeSci Capital00:42:20Got it. Thank you very much. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:42:23Mm-hmm. Operator00:42:25Going next to Dennis Ding with Jefferies. Georgia BankEquity Research Analyst at Jefferies00:42:30Hi. Thank you for taking our questions. This is Georgia Bank on the line for Dennis Ding. Maybe a little bit more on the potential partnerships and if you could talk about what an ideal partnership looks like in terms of capabilities and also creative deal structuring. Georgia BankEquity Research Analyst at Jefferies00:42:49Obviously the commercial infrastructure is important, but what other nuances are important to you maybe in terms of R&D funding or bigger indications in payer relationships? I know that you mentioned that there's opportunity in pursuing some indications on your own and others involved, maybe partnering on it. Any color there would be helpful. Thank you. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:43:11Thanks, Georgia. No, it's a good question, and I'll repeat what I've said in the past. We would love to find a partner that sees the opportunity with lorundrostat the way we do. How is that? That is, with the best-in-class aldosterone synthase inhibitor in the near term generating significant value for patients, for physicians, and for the healthcare community writ large in helping to control uncontrolled and resistant hypertension. Then also more broadly, fully realizing the value of the asset from a development standpoint. Co-development, I'm not gonna talk about what kind of deal structures that would look like, but really, extending the value of lorundrostat beyond hypertension and some of its related comorbidities. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:44:00Within that, becomes addressing the complexity that exists just right now with branded assets that you want to get into the hands of patients outside of the United States. It's really what's been informing the dialogues that we've had is finding a partner that thinks more holistically about the opportunity. As we've stated before, lorundrostat has excellent IP out to 2035, patent term extension probably to 2039. There's a significant time period there to fully realize the value of this asset, and bring that value to patients. Georgia BankEquity Research Analyst at Jefferies00:44:39Got it. Appreciate it. Thank you. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:44:43Thanks, Georgia. Operator00:44:45This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the floor back over to Jon Congleton for closing comments. Jon CongletonCEO at Mineralys Therapeutics00:44:53Thank you, operator. We believe the strength of the clinical results for lorundrostat show the potential benefit for uncontrolled and resistant hypertension and those related comorbidities. This is an exciting time for our team, the patients with hypertension who may benefit from treatment with lorundrostat, the physicians and researchers that have worked so hard in support of bringing lorundrostat through our clinical trial program, and our shareholders. We look forward to sharing updates with you in the incoming quarters. With that, I'll say thank you, operator, and thank you to everyone for joining us today. We'll now close the call. Operator00:45:30Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation. This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesAdam LevyCFODavid RodmanChief Medical OfficerEric WarrenChief Commercial OfficerJon CongletonCEOAnalystsAnnabel SamimyManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at StifelDan FerryManaging Director at LifeSci AdvisorsGeorgia BankEquity Research Analyst at JefferiesJason GerberrySenior Analyst at Bank of AmericaMichael DiFioreDirector and Equity Research Analyst at Evercore ISIMohit BansalManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Wells FargoRami KatkhudaManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at LifeSci CapitalRich LawResearch Analyst at Goldman SachsSeamus FernandezSenior Managing Director and Senior Analyst at Guggenheim PartnersPowered by