Plaza Retail REIT Q4 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Plaza reported FFO of CAD 44 million (CAD 0.395/unit), an 8.8% increase year‑over‑year, and management says normalized FFO per unit excluding one‑offs would be about a 4.5% increase.
  • Positive Sentiment: Operating metrics are strong with committed occupancy at 97.6% (rising to ~98% imminently and ~99% excluding enclosed malls) and robust leasing momentum — blended renewal spreads of 13.4%, negotiated renewal spreads >18% and a new-lease spread of 82%.
  • Positive Sentiment: Value‑creation programs drove results — intensification, development and consolidation added about CAD 5.5 million of NOI in 2025 and the pipeline shows roughly CAD 6.1M of stabilized NOI plus ~CAD 0.6M from current developments expected to contribute in 2026 and beyond.
  • Negative Sentiment: The Toys R Us insolvency produced a CAD 544k bad‑debt charge and created ~35,000 sq ft of vacancy that removes roughly CAD 1 million of annual NOI, with management expecting partial impact to carry into Q1/Q2 and full straight‑line recovery nearer the end of 2026.
  • Neutral Sentiment: Balance sheet metrics are stable: debt‑to‑assets ~50% (down 60 bps), net debt/adjusted EBITDA ~8.9x, loan‑to‑value ~42%, with $63M of fixed‑rate maturities next year at a weighted ~3.4% and current five‑year financing available in the low‑to‑mid 4% range.
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Plaza Retail REIT Q4 2025
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Operator

Good morning. I would like to welcome everyone to the Plaza Retail REIT Fourth Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Instructions will be provided at that time for you to queue up for questions. If anyone has any difficulties hearing the conference, please press star zero for operator assistance at any time. I would like to advise everyone that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Kim Strange, Plaza's General Counsel and Secretary. Please go ahead, Ms. Strange.

Kim Strange
Kim Strange
General Counsel and Secretary at Plaza Retail REIT

Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us on our Q4 2025 Results Conference Call. Before we begin, we are obliged to advise you that in talking about our financial and operating performance and in responding to questions today, we may make forward-looking statements, including statements concerning Plaza's objectives and strategies to achieve them, statements with respect to our plans, estimates and intentions, or statements concerning anticipated future events, results, circumstances, or performance that are not historical facts. These statements are based on our current expectations and assumptions and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from the conclusions in these forward-looking statements.

Kim Strange
Kim Strange
General Counsel and Secretary at Plaza Retail REIT

Additional information on the risks that could impact our actual results and the expectations and assumptions we applied in making forward-looking statements can be found in Plaza's most recent annual information form for the year ended December 31st, 2024, and Management's Discussion and Analysis for the fourth quarter ended December 31st, 2025, which are available on our website at www.plaza.ca and on SEDAR+ at www.sedarplus.ca. We will also refer to non-GAAP financial measures widely used in the Canadian real estate industry, including FFO, AFFO, EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA, NOI and same-asset NOI. Plaza believes these financial measures provide useful information to both management and investors in measuring the financial performance and financial condition of the Trust. These financial measures do not have any standardized definitions prescribed by IFRS and may not be comparable to similar titled measures reported by other real estate investment trusts or entities.

Kim Strange
Kim Strange
General Counsel and Secretary at Plaza Retail REIT

They should be considered as supplemental in nature and not as a substitute for related financial information prepared in accordance with IFRS. For definitions of these financial measures and where to find reconciliations thereof, please refer to part seven of our MD&A for the fourth quarter ended December 31st, 2025, under the heading Explanation of Non-GAAP Financial Measures. I will now turn the call over to Jason Parravano, Plaza's President and CEO. Jason.

Jason Parravano
Jason Parravano
President and CEO at Plaza Retail REIT

Thank you, Kim. Good morning, everyone. 2025 was a year that reinforced why Plaza's strategy works. In a market defined by cautious consumers, uneven economic signals, and still elevated costs of capital and construction, our portfolio continued to demonstrate the durability of essential needs retail, backed by disciplined execution and a fully internalized operating platform. We remained focused on optimization and intensification while continuing to benefit from steady operating fundamentals and a portfolio concentrated in non-discretionary retail. This combination delivered another year of growth. Total FFO increased to CAD 44 million or CAD 0.395 per unit, compared to CAD 40.5 million or CAD 0.363 per unit in 2024, an 8.8% improvement.

Jason Parravano
Jason Parravano
President and CEO at Plaza Retail REIT

There are a few one-time items that cloud those results. I figured I would provide an explanation on how to normalize our solid performance for the year. If you exclude CAD 123,000 of reorganization costs, CAD 425,000 related to a change in bonus accrual timing, and CAD 544,000 of bad debt tied to Toys R Us insolvency in 2025, and exclude CAD 2.7 million in reorganization costs for 2024, FFO per unit would have increased approximately 4.5% year-over-year. This performance reflects the strength of our portfolio and the disciplined execution of our strategy, which we have been pursuing for the last year.

Jason Parravano
Jason Parravano
President and CEO at Plaza Retail REIT

The main driver behind this growth comes from higher NOI from same asset growth, which highlights our ability to complete many optimization projects as well as acquisitions and intensifications. Leasing fundamentals remain robust. We're blended leasing spreads of 13.4% over the renewal term. Notably, our leasing spreads on negotiated renewals over the renewal term were just over 18%. This underscores our ability to drive value from the existing portfolio and demonstrates the favorable delta between our in-place and market rents. Our committed occupancy remains at an all-time high of 97.6%. We also have an active lease pending a tenant condition, which will increase that committed occupancy number to 98% in the coming days. Excluding enclosed malls, our occupancy rate climbs even higher and is near perfect at 99%.

Jason Parravano
Jason Parravano
President and CEO at Plaza Retail REIT

These metrics continue to reflect all-time high performance levels, reinforcing sustained tenant demand and the strategic positioning in our portfolio in markets characterized by limited retail supply. As renewals continue to take effect during the year, we expect continued positive impact on Same-Property NOI, completed by contributions from intensification and optimization projects currently underway across the portfolio. On the value creation side of the business, our intensification development and consolidation initiatives added approximately CAD 5.5 million of NOI in 2025, reinforcing our strategy of extracting embedded growth from within the existing portfolio while maintaining capital discipline. Total NOI for the year was CAD 77 million, representing growth of 2.7% compared to 2024. We also advanced and completed several projects that should contribute more visibly in 2026 and beyond.

Jason Parravano
Jason Parravano
President and CEO at Plaza Retail REIT

During the year, we handed over multiple spaces to Loblaws and other key tenants for fit outs and construction across select properties. As these locations open and stabilize, we expect their contribution to become more apparent through 2026. As we have noted previously, optimization work can create timing related noise in AFFO, this work supports FFO growth and long-term value creation. Stepping back, our portfolio today spans 191 properties, totaling approximately 8.8 million sq ft across Canada, with a strong concentration in open air centers and small box formats leased predominantly to national tenants serving the essential needs, value, and convenience segment. This focus continues to underpin stable demand and attractive reinvestment opportunities across our markets.

Jason Parravano
Jason Parravano
President and CEO at Plaza Retail REIT

In 2026, our priorities are clear: continue executing on optimizations and intensifications already in motion; drive leasing spreads where we see embedded mark to market; and prudently allocate capital to the highest return opportunities within our pipeline. We remain disciplined. We remain focused on retail. We know it well. We remain committed to long-term value creation for our unitholders, our tenants, and the communities we serve. With that, I'll turn it over to Jim to take you through the financials in more detail.

Jim Drake
Jim Drake
CFO at Plaza Retail REIT

Thank you, Jason. Good morning, everyone. I will expand on a few of Jason's comments and highlight our results. Within the total NOI growth that Jason mentioned, same-asset NOI increased 1.1% for the quarter, 1.7% for the year. Excluding bad debt related to the Toys R Us insolvency, same-asset NOI would have increased 2.2% for the quarter, 2.5% for the year. In addition to the FFO growth Jason noted, AFFO per unit also increased 4.9%. Although our optimization program has a temporary impact on AFFO, which included CAD 2.1 million of leasing costs related to that program, the result is improved asset quality and increased revenues. On the balance sheet, our debt-to-assets ratio is down 60 basis points versus last year at 50%, excluding land leases.

Jim Drake
Jim Drake
CFO at Plaza Retail REIT

Net debt to adjusted EBITDA was 8.9 times, 20 basis points lower than last year, given the EBITDA growth and reorganization costs incurred last year. We maintain a balanced mortgage maturity ladder with $63 million of fixed rate mortgages maturing next year at a weighted average rate of 3.4% and overall loan-to-value of 42%. We continue to see strong interest in our mortgage offerings with all-in rates in the low 4%-low 5% range. In addition to the lease renewal spreads Jason spoke about, we also introduced a new leasing spread. The new leasing spread represents rent in year one of the new lease versus the expiring rent for the previous tenant if that previous tenant was in place within the last 12 months. The new leasing spread for the year was 82%.

Jim Drake
Jim Drake
CFO at Plaza Retail REIT

This significant spread further highlights the impact from our optimization program. The optimization program also increases asset quality, as does our non-core asset sales and consolidation programs. We sold 21 properties during the year, generally QSRs and some small single tenant assets, and replaced them under our consolidation program with a 50% interest in a grocery anchored property in Halifax and a 75% interest in three freestanding Shoppers Drug Marts in Ontario. In both cases, we now own 100% of the assets. Finally, for the fair value of our investment properties, we took a CAD 14 million write up during the quarter on increased stabilized NOIs, new appraisals, and cap rate compression. Our weighted average cap rate is now 6.8%. Those are the key points for the quarter and year. We will now open the lines for any questions. Operator?

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now conduct the question and answer session. If you have a question, please press the star key followed by the one on your touch tone phone. You will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. Your questions will be pulled in the order they are received. If you would like to decline from the polling process, please press star followed by two. Please ensure you lift the handset if you are using a speakerphone before pressing any keys. One moment please for your first question. The first question comes from Mark Rothschild at Canaccord. Please go ahead.

Mark Rothschild
Mark Rothschild
Managing Director at Canaccord

Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Looking at the leasing spread you achieved in the past year and the same property NOI growth you would have achieved not for the Toys R Us issues, is it reasonable to expect that 2.5% is probably a good number to look at for this year and maybe just a general run rate that you could be achievable for the foreseeable future?

Jason Parravano
Jason Parravano
President and CEO at Plaza Retail REIT

Hey, Mark, it's Jason. Good morning. I believe 2%-2.5% is achievable for the foreseeable future, taking into consideration timing impacts and, you know, unforeseens that could happen in the portfolio. Yes, that makes a lot of sense.

Mark Rothschild
Mark Rothschild
Managing Director at Canaccord

In regards to space that has been vacated recently, and obviously it's not a huge number, but, how is the leasing going, and should we expect anything notably different on the leasing spreads?

Jason Parravano
Jason Parravano
President and CEO at Plaza Retail REIT

No. Again, with respect to, like, our optimization projects, that's space that we would be forcing tenants to vacate and that would impact our new leasing spreads. With respect to renewals or tenants that are in place, we currently have in our open air strip portfolio, call it somewhere around 70-100,000 sq ft of vacancy. With respect to that space, we're working towards signing documents on probably a third of it while actively trying to lease the balance. It's made up of a bunch of little units across the portfolio. I would say that, you know, where we're at today on a occupancy level is probably the highest you're gonna get, just given the fact that there's always space that's gonna roll.

Jason Parravano
Jason Parravano
President and CEO at Plaza Retail REIT

What we've seen as a trend over the last two years or so is we always have approximately 75,000-125,000 sq ft in our open air strips that's constantly rolling. It's those mom-and-pop tenants that are in and out and replacing 'em with new ones.

Mark Rothschild
Mark Rothschild
Managing Director at Canaccord

Okay. Great. Thanks. Maybe just one more from me on the development projects. Is it reasonable to expect most of these projects to be completed over the next year or so? Is some of them are, I guess, are longer term, but maybe what's the timing of all that?

Jason Parravano
Jason Parravano
President and CEO at Plaza Retail REIT

We're in the project of completing a large development, greenfield development project right now in Welland, Ontario, and we're handing over space to the tenants as soon as we complete asphalt, probably closer to mid-April, end of April. While we have other projects, notably our greenfield project in Galway, which we're working through a couple of additions this summer on space, and working towards further building out that final phase of that project or the final material phase of that project closer to 2028.

Mark Rothschild
Mark Rothschild
Managing Director at Canaccord

Okay. Great. Thanks so much. I'll turn it back.

Jason Parravano
Jason Parravano
President and CEO at Plaza Retail REIT

Thanks, Mark.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Lorne Kalmar with Desjardins. Please go ahead.

Lorne Kalmar
Lorne Kalmar
VP of Equity Research at Desjardins

Thanks. Good morning. just quickly on the Toys vacancy, can you remind us of the NOI impact there and if that was already fully felt in 4Q or if you'll feel a little bit of that or rather we should take a little bit off in Q1?

Jason Parravano
Jason Parravano
President and CEO at Plaza Retail REIT

You're gonna have to take off a bit of it in Q1 and Q2 as we work towards leasing it up. That's approximately CAD 1 million a year of NOI. So that would be the base and the additional rents that were collected on that tenant. It's about 35,000 sq ft.

Lorne Kalmar
Lorne Kalmar
VP of Equity Research at Desjardins

Oh, okay. Just in terms of, backfilling that, how is that progressing?

Jason Parravano
Jason Parravano
President and CEO at Plaza Retail REIT

Working on a few options. There is demand for that space. You can imagine the notable suspects who are approximately 30,000-35,000 sq ft.

Lorne Kalmar
Lorne Kalmar
VP of Equity Research at Desjardins

Okay.

Jason Parravano
Jason Parravano
President and CEO at Plaza Retail REIT

It doesn't happen overnight. We're working towards hopefully leasing that up on the back end of 2026.

Lorne Kalmar
Lorne Kalmar
VP of Equity Research at Desjardins

You think it can be, you get straight-line rents there, by the end of 2026 or more of a 2027?

Jason Parravano
Jason Parravano
President and CEO at Plaza Retail REIT

Straight lines by the end of 2026, hopefully.

Lorne Kalmar
Lorne Kalmar
VP of Equity Research at Desjardins

All right. maybe just lastly, switching gears on the acquisition side, I know you guys are focused on, cleaning up some of these, partnership agreements. What's the outlook for 2026? How much do you think you can do?

Jason Parravano
Jason Parravano
President and CEO at Plaza Retail REIT

We increased our ownership slightly in one syndication earlier in, sorry, at the end of January. We're looking to consolidate at least one more syndication for sure, while we clean up some pieces on some other ones as opportunities come due throughout the course of the year as liquidity permits.

Lorne Kalmar
Lorne Kalmar
VP of Equity Research at Desjardins

Okay. Fair enough. I will turn it back.

Jason Parravano
Jason Parravano
President and CEO at Plaza Retail REIT

Thanks, Lorne.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, if there are any additional questions at this time, please press the star followed by the one. As a reminder, if you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing the keys. The next question comes from Tal Woolley from CIBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Tal Woolley
Research Analyst at CIBC Capital Markets

Hey, good morning. You've got about four expansions and redevelopments, I think, coming online over the course of the first half of the year. Do you have an estimate of how much incremental NOI you anticipate to achieve from those projects coming online?

Jason Parravano
Jason Parravano
President and CEO at Plaza Retail REIT

Sure.

Jim Drake
Jim Drake
CFO at Plaza Retail REIT

I'll take that, Tal.

Jason Parravano
Jason Parravano
President and CEO at Plaza Retail REIT

Yeah, go ahead.

Jim Drake
Jim Drake
CFO at Plaza Retail REIT

Sorry. Go ahead, Jason.

Jason Parravano
Jason Parravano
President and CEO at Plaza Retail REIT

I don't know if-

Jim Drake
Jim Drake
CFO at Plaza Retail REIT

Tal, there's a chart in the MD&A that talks about the developments, redevelopments. It shows a stabilized NOI upon completion. The difference between what we had today, versus what is stabilized, is what we'll see over the next little while.

Tal Woolley
Research Analyst at CIBC Capital Markets

Okay. This is on page four?

Jim Drake
Jim Drake
CFO at Plaza Retail REIT

Page 14 of the MD&A.

Tal Woolley
Research Analyst at CIBC Capital Markets

Okay.

Jim Drake
Jim Drake
CFO at Plaza Retail REIT

You'll see a chart providing details on NOI. Stabilized NOI from intensifications, acquisitions is about CAD 6.1 million, and then there's another CAD 600,000 or so from properties currently under development.

Tal Woolley
Research Analyst at CIBC Capital Markets

Okay. Perfect. you know, just looking at the change in net rental income from Q3 to Q4, it's down about a million and a half, so I'm assuming some of that is the Toys R Us bankruptcy write-off. I guess is the balance mostly just the seasonality of your operating expenses?

Jason Parravano
Jason Parravano
President and CEO at Plaza Retail REIT

I can take that, Jim. We've got about CAD half a million there from the Toys R Us write-off. Another maybe CAD 200,000 or so related to just normal course bad debt, which we would normally experience in the portfolio, and the balance of it would be seasonality.

Tal Woolley
Research Analyst at CIBC Capital Markets

Okay. That's great. Just lastly, you know, yields, keep moving all over the place a little bit. Just wondering, you know, your rough cost of secured financing right now for five years.

Jason Parravano
Jason Parravano
President and CEO at Plaza Retail REIT

Jim?

Jim Drake
Jim Drake
CFO at Plaza Retail REIT

Five years would be in the low 4s%-mid 4s%.

Tal Woolley
Research Analyst at CIBC Capital Markets

Okay. That's perfect. Thanks very much, gentlemen.

Jason Parravano
Jason Parravano
President and CEO at Plaza Retail REIT

Thank you, Tal.

Jim Drake
Jim Drake
CFO at Plaza Retail REIT

Thank you.

Operator

Mr. Parravano, there are no further questions at this time.

Jason Parravano
Jason Parravano
President and CEO at Plaza Retail REIT

All right. Well, thank you all for joining us today and your continued support and trust. We remain committed to creating long-term value for our unit holders, our tenants, and the communities they serve. We appreciate your time and look forward to the journey ahead. Take care and talk soon.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the conference call for today. Thank you for participating. Please disconnect your lines.

Executives
    • Jason Parravano
      Jason Parravano
      President and CEO
    • Jim Drake
      Jim Drake
      CFO
    • Kim Strange
      Kim Strange
      General Counsel and Secretary
Analysts
    • Lorne Kalmar
      VP of Equity Research at Desjardins
    • Mark Rothschild
      Managing Director at Canaccord
    • Tal Woolley
      Research Analyst at CIBC Capital Markets