TSE:REI.UN RioCan Real Estate Investment Trust Q1 2026 Earnings Report C$21.66 -0.02 (-0.09%) As of 04:00 PM Eastern ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast RioCan Real Estate Investment Trust EPS ResultsActual EPSC$0.32Consensus EPS N/ABeat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/ARioCan Real Estate Investment Trust Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$322.31 millionExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/ARioCan Real Estate Investment Trust Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2026Date5/4/2026TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateTuesday, May 5, 2026Conference Call Time10:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress ReleaseEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by RioCan Real Estate Investment Trust Q1 2026 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 5, 2026 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: Record leasing momentum — Q1 blended leasing spreads were 25.8% (new lease spreads 58.5%), highlighting strong mark-to-market upside across the retail portfolio. Positive Sentiment: Commercial Same Property NOI grew 4.7% in Q1 (third consecutive quarter ≥4.5%) with 98.6% committed retail occupancy and 92.4% retention, supporting management’s reaffirmed full‑year Same Property NOI outlook of 3.5%–4.0%. Positive Sentiment: RioCan Living capital recycling is substantially complete with ~CAD 1.04 billion of disposals closed/firm/conditional (~80% of the CAD1.3B target), and proceeds are being redeployed into accretive portfolio investments, unit buybacks, and balance‑sheet flexibility. Neutral Sentiment: Core FFO was CAD 0.39/unit in Q1 (flat YoY), weighed down by higher interest expense, lower interest income and lower residential-sale NOI, though management expects Core FFO to ramp and reaffirmed 2026 Core FFO per unit guidance of CAD 1.60–1.62. Neutral Sentiment: Adjusted spot debt to adjusted EBITDA rose to 8.94x (partly due to acquisition timing), but liquidity (~CAD 1.3B), ~CAD 9.4B unencumbered assets and DBRS’s BBB affirmation with a positive trend were cited as indicators of financial flexibility. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallRioCan Real Estate Investment Trust Q1 202600:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xThere are 12 speakers on the call. Speaker 900:00:00Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the RioCan Real Estate Investment Trust first quarter 2026 conference call and webcast. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ms. Jennifer Suess, Senior Vice President, General Counsel, ESG, and Corporate Secretary. Ms. Suess, you may begin. Speaker 300:00:26Thank you. Good morning, everyone. I am Jennifer Suess, Senior Vice President, General Counsel, ESG, and Corporate Secretary of RioCan. Before we begin, I am required to read the following cautionary statement. In talking about our financial and operating performance and in responding to your questions, we may make forward-looking statements, including statements concerning RioCan's objectives, its strategies to achieve those objectives, as well as statements with respect to management's beliefs, plans, estimates, and intentions and similar statements concerning anticipated future events, results, circumstances, performance, or expectations that are not historical facts. These statements are based on our current estimates and assumptions and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from the conclusions in these forward-looking statements. Speaker 300:01:19In discussing our financial and operating performance and in responding to your questions, we will also be referencing certain financial measures that are not generally accepted accounting principle measures, GAAP, under IFRS. These measures do not have any standardized definition prescribed by IFRS and are therefore unlikely to be comparable to similar measures presented by other reporting issuers. Non-GAAP measures should not be considered as alternatives to net earnings or comparable metrics determined in accordance with IFRS as indicators of RioCan's performance, liquidity, cash flows, and profitability. RioCan's management uses these measures to aid in assessing the trust's underlying core performance and provides these additional measures so that investors may do the same. Speaker 300:02:03Additional information on the material risks that could impact our actual results and the estimates and assumptions we applied in making these forward-looking statements, together with details on our use of non-GAAP financial measures, can be found in the financial statements filed yesterday and management's discussion and analysis related thereto as applicable, together with RioCan's most recent annual information form that are all available on our website and at www.sedar+. I will now turn the call over to RioCan's President and CEO, Jonathan Gitlin. Speaker 500:02:38Thank you, Jennifer. Good morning, everyone, and thanks so much for joining us today. Our first quarter results reinforce the message we've consistently delivered since our 2025 investor day. RioCan is executing a strategy anchored in our retail core. We're delivering durable organic growth, enhanced financial flexibility, and meaningful long-term value for unitholders. Our strategy is supported by our proven and future-focused platform. It's grounded in a culture of excellence, ongoing innovation and technology advancement, and prudent ESG practices. The quarter demonstrated momentum across all our key priorities, including leasing performance, Same Property NOI growth, capital recycling, and disciplined balance sheet management. It did so in a manner that is consistent with the plan and targets we laid out at our investor day. First off, I'd like to highlight operations. Speaker 500:03:44Record blended leasing spreads of 25.8% in the quarter was driven by new leasing spreads of 58.5%. This demonstrates once again the potent mark-to-market opportunity within our retail portfolio. Importantly, these results are not one-offs. As we discussed last quarter, we continue to benefit from a favorable retail leasing super cycle driven by a combination of expiring legacy leases and constrained new supply. They also reflect the structural advantages we highlighted at our investor day. These include high quality, necessity-based retail in densely populated supply-constrained markets and strong, long-standing tenant relationships fostered over the last 30 years. We don't have an external sponsor that influences our decisions. That means we remain focused exclusively on maximizing the productivity of every square foot of our portfolio to drive unitholder value. Speaker 500:04:51The combination of our leasing strategy and full operating independence continues to translate into durable, repeatable growth. Our sustained organic growth reflects disciplined execution of our retail-focused strategy. Over the last 12 months, that focus has delivered blended leasing spreads of 23.1%, which are now beginning to translate into Same Property NOI growth. Our competitive advantages were on full display again this quarter with commercial Same Property NOI growth of 4.7%, marking the third consecutive quarter at or above 4.5%. While we expect commercial Same Property NOI growth to move modestly quarter-to-quarter, this level of performance reinforces our confidence in the full year outlook of 3.5%-4%. In the first quarter, we achieved a 92.4% retention ratio and a 98.6 committed retail occupancy. Speaker 500:05:57This underscores the resilience of our cash flows and our ability to strike the appropriate balance between peer-leading rent growth and extremely high occupancy. What we're seeing today is the compounding effect of years of disciplined portfolio positioning where leasing strength, occupancy, and mark-to-market gains reinforce one another. A second major pillar of the strategy we presented at our Investor Day was strategic capital recycling, particularly through RioCan Living. The progress this quarter was meaningful. As of May 4, 2026, we anticipate repatriating approximately CAD 1.04 billion through closed, firm, and conditional transactions. This represents approximately 80% of our CAD 1.3 billion RioCan Living disposition target. We continue to see strong interest in the remaining 4 RioCan Living assets. We're monetizing residential rental buildings and residential inventory. In doing so, we're simplifying our business and increasing clarity in our earnings profile. Speaker 500:07:10The proceeds are being redeployed accretively into portfolio investments, unit repurchases, and balance sheet flexibility, exactly as we outlined at Investor Day. Our capital allocation decisions continue to be guided by a disciplined hierarchy, always having a view on the most accretive outcome. During the quarter, we reinvested CAD 22 million into high return portfolio investments, including retail infill and asset enhancements. This allows us to unlock embedded density within our existing footprint. At the same time, we remained opportunistic in the public markets, repurchasing and canceling 2.6 million units at an average price of CAD 19.51 under our NCIB program. This reflects our view that the current unit price does not fully reflect the value and earnings power of our business. There's been a steady stream of private and now public market transactions involving high-quality retail assets and portfolios that are similar to ours. Speaker 500:08:21These market reference points offer strong evidence of current valuations for assets like ours, reinforcing that we are trading at below NAV. Our balance sheet remains well-positioned as assessed by a suite of key credit metrics. RioCan's adjusted spot debt to EBITDA is 8.94x. As we advance our capital recycling strategy through 2026, we fully anticipate net debt to EBITDA to settle into the midpoint of our stated guidance range. The strength and flexibility of our balance sheet were further recognized this quarter as Morningstar DBRS affirmed our BBB credit rating and revised the trend to positive. Looking ahead, we reaffirm our 2026 financial outlook, including Core FFO per unit of CAD 1.60-CAD 1.62. Additionally, we reaffirm our guidance of commercial Same Property NOI growth of 3.5%-4%. Speaker 500:09:28These targets are firmly supported by embedded leasing spreads already achieved, strong visibility on 2026 lease maturities, continued discipline and capital deployment, and reduced capital intensity as we complete the wind down of mixed-use construction. In closing, Q1 was a strong start to the year and a clear reflection of our consistent execution of the commitments we outlined at Investor Day. RioCan has a focused strategy and is perfectly positioned to compound organic growth. The trust has strong leasing fundamentals and a data platform that continues to provide multi-year growth visibility. We're also equipped with the balance sheet flexibility to act decisively. In this turbulent world, owning hard assets with reliable cash flow in prime markets is advantageous. To put it another way, it is a great time to invest in RioCan. Speaker 500:10:30With that, I'll turn the call over to Franca Smith, RioCan's interim Chief Financial Officer, and afterwards, we'll be happy to take your questions. Speaker 200:10:40Thank you, Jonathan, and good morning, everyone. Our first quarter results were in line with our expectations and reflect continued progress on the priorities we set out at our Investor Day, driving organic growth from our retail core and maintaining a disciplined approach to capital allocation. Our balance sheet remains strong, supported by healthy credit metrics. Our financial flexibility continues to improve as we execute our capital recycling strategy. I'll walk through the quarter starting with Core FFO. As discussed at Investor Day last fall, we intentionally moved to Core FFO as a key performance metric because it better reflects the recurring earnings power of our core retail business. Core FFO also gives a more consistent basis to track and assess operating performance and cash flow generation over time. Speaker 200:11:41Mechanically, it starts with FFO and adjusts for items that don't reflect our underlying run rate operations, such as residential inventory gains, HBC related income, and restructuring charges. Core FFO in the first quarter was CAD 0.39 per unit in line with Q1 of last year. There were four primary drivers of our Core FFO results. Commercial Same Property NOI increased 4.7% year-over-year, contributing over CAD 0.02 per unit. Our unit buybacks had a positive impact of approximately CAD 0.01 per unit. These factors were offset primarily by higher interest expense and lower interest income, which had a combined impact of just over CAD 0.02 per unit. Lower NOI from the sale of residential rental assets had an impact of approximately CAD 0.01 per unit. Speaker 200:12:39We anticipate Core FFO to ramp up over the balance of the year, and as Jonathan mentioned, we expect to deliver on our 2026 guidance. Turning to other items in the quarter, we recorded approximately CAD 2 million of one-time restructuring costs related to the reduction and consolidation of development and construction functions. Adjusted G&A expense as a percentage of rental revenue, which excludes these restructuring costs, is expected to remain below 4% on a full-year basis. We also recorded approximately CAD 6 million of condo-related income in the quarter. Remaining residential inventory under construction is approximately CAD 100 million at our proportionate share, or roughly 1% of NAV. While this balance will be addressed responsibly over time, we do not expect condominium-related items to make a material contribution to FFO for the remainder of the year. Speaker 200:13:39Together, these 2 items account for the majority of the difference between FFO and Core FFO. Moving on to our balance sheet. Our adjusted spot debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio was 8.94 times at quarter end. The increase versus year end was primarily driven by acquisition timing related to Georgian Mall and Oakville Place. The increase versus year end was primarily driven by acquisition timing related to Georgian Mall and Oakville Place, where the associated EBITDA contribution builds over time, while the associated debt was recognized immediately during the quarter. We expect these acquisitions to contribute positively to both Core FFO and our leverage profile over time. Looking across our suite of metrics, our unsecured debt to total debt improved to 66%, and this mix will continue to improve as we execute on our financing plan. Speaker 200:14:41We had approximately CAD 9.4 billion of unencumbered assets and approximately CAD 1.3 billion of available liquidity at quarter end, providing ample financial flexibility and capacity. As Jonathan also mentioned, during the first quarter, DBRS reaffirmed our triple B credit rating and revised the trend from stable to positive. We view this as an important endorsement of our balance sheet trajectory and the continued progress we are making on deleveraging. On financing activity during the quarter, we raised CAD 200 million of senior unsecured debentures with a 4.308% coupon rate and a 7-year term. We also repaid CAD 100 million of unsecured debentures upon maturity. For the balance of the year, we expect that our capital recycling activities and capacity on our credit facility will be used to repay the vast majority of our remaining debt maturities. Speaker 200:15:43Additional debt issuances will be completed on an opportunistic basis. To wrap up, our first quarter results represent a strong start to the year and align with the 3-year outlook we shared at Investor Day. Operating fundamentals across our portfolio remain exceptional, and we are delivering on our strategy and commitments. Both private and public market transactions continue to validate the inherent value of our business, and we remain focused on executing our plan to drive unitholder value. With that, I will turn the call back to the operator to begin the question-and-answer session. Speaker 900:16:25Ladies and gentlemen, we are currently experiencing technical difficulties. Please stand by as we resolve this issue before proceeding with our question-and-answer session. Speaker 900:35:08Ladies and gentlemen, we apologize once again for any technical difficulties. A full recording will be made available and sent out to you all. We are now ready for the Q&A portion of today. As a reminder, to please ask a question, please press star followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad. Once again, that is star followed by the number 1 to enter the question queue. We will pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Okay. Our first question is in queue. If you can please state your name and company, that would be greatly appreciated. Your line is open. Speaker 600:36:21Is it mine? Speaker 900:36:24Yes. Yes, your line is open. Speaker 600:36:24Sorry. It's Lorne Kalmar from Desjardins. Apologies. I didn't know whose line was open. Just one more little technical difficulty, but let's put that behind us and get down to the good stuff. On Same Property NOI, you guys had the continuation, I think, of some solid prints in 3Q and 4Q into 1Q. And I think you called out a part of that was the spaces that had gone dark in 2024, cash rents resuming. How do you expect Same Property NOI to trend over the balance of the year? Kind of 2Q should be another one that's a little bit outsized, then it moderates a bit over the back half. Speaker 500:37:03Hey Lorne, a couple of things to start. First of all, you no need to apologize on your end. This is totally our service provider's issue. Second of all, love the headline of your report. Wooderson is always a good quote. Thirdly, with respect to SPNOI, we had a great quarter. The year is going very well. It's a little too premature to predict the entire remainder of the year, and we still remain very confident in our guidance. It will be between 3.5%-4%. Things are all pointing to very favorable outcomes and if the year continues to go the way it is going, we will provide updated guidance in the coming quarters. Speaker 500:37:47Right now we are firmly confident behind the 3.5%-4% number that we gave out in our guidance. Speaker 600:37:55Okay. That's good to hear. Maybe just flipping to the RioCan Living side of things. It seems like you guys made some really good progress there. I was just wondering if you'd give us a, I know it's a sensitive one, but a rough idea perhaps of the yield on the assets that are either sold or under agreement to be sold, and then just maybe an idea of the buyer profile. Speaker 500:38:22Sure, Lorne. It's all in line with our IFRS values and, you know, it's in the again, the low 4-mid 4 range across the board. That's a balanced summer, lower summer or a bit higher. The buyer pool is consistent with the pool of buyers that we've had to date, which is a range. It's some private wealth and family office buyers. It's some institutional buyers and it is some private equity buyers. It really is a range. Speaker 600:39:02I guess as you kind of look ahead, I think you got 4 or so left to go. Has there been any change in the acquisition transaction environment since the aforementioned deals were consummated? Speaker 500:39:17No, it still remains strong. These assets are new, they're transit oriented, they don't have rent control, and there's a high degree of demand for them. For us it's just a question of getting all of them stabilized, getting the lease up as we intend to get it, and then I think there will be a fairly robust market for them. Speaker 600:39:43Okay. Then I guess, just to be clear, you still expect those remaining four to kind of, hopefully transact on them by the end of the year? Speaker 500:39:53As I've indicated previously, it's our intention to get them done as quickly as possible, just because of stabilization taking a little bit longer. There might be 2 of them that trickle into 2027. Our hope is that we have them contracted for by the end of the year, and we'll provide updates as the year progresses. Given the strength of the assets, and given our desire to sell, we are confident that they will all be sold in short thrift. Speaker 600:40:20Okay. Thank you so much. I'll turn it back. Speaker 500:40:23Thanks, Lorne. Speaker 900:40:26Our next question comes from the line of Matt Kornack. Your line is open. Speaker 700:40:31Hey, guys. Speaker 500:40:33Hey, Matt. Speaker 700:40:33strong quarter on Same Property NOI growth. That's notwithstanding, it looks like recoveries were maybe 99% as opposed to 100% historically. Could you give us a sense if that's just a timing issue in this particular quarter? Also percentage rent looks a little bit low relative to what we've expected in the past, but if there's anything color-wise there, that would be helpful. Speaker 500:41:01I think it's all just seasonality. I don't think there's anything to read into it. On the percentage rent, most certainly it's seasonal and that usually picks up as the year progresses. On the recoveries, again, I think that is really just a byproduct of the fact that it was first quarter, usually a little bit softer on the recoveries. That usually stabilizes and ramps up by the end of the year. Speaker 400:41:25Yeah, Matt, the only thing I'd add, this is John Ballantyne. Percentage rent, you'll probably see that drop over time, not because tenant sales productivity is decreasing, but because we are converting some, I would say, historic or legacy percentage rent in lieu of net rents. You know, based on the hotness of this leasing market, we're able to get in front of these tenants and convert them to net deals, which will obviously benefit Same Property NOI. Speaker 700:41:54Okay. No, that makes sense. On the in-place occupancy front, committed remains essentially at an all-time high fold, but there was a little bit of a dip in the in-place. Did you have some tenant turnover? If we look at your new leasing spreads in like the 50%+ range, is that the kind of rents you're getting on any sort of turnover you're seeing in tenants? Speaker 500:42:22Yeah, I think that the, this is, I would say an anomalous quarter with respect to that gap between committed and in-place occupancy. Based on the leasing that the team has done, you're already seeing that gap close quite dramatically, and largely due to the HBC deals that we did in Oakville Place. I think you'll see it back to the normal range, closer to 75 basis points, which is our historic average. The second part of the question I can hand over to John. Speaker 400:42:53Yeah. Look, Matt Kornack, the in-place occupancy did drop. We did buy a half interest in Oakville and Georgian Mall, which obviously had those two HBC boxes, which have been fully leased, but are not paying rent yet. That accounted for about 40 basis points. As Jonathan Gitlin said, with Oakville taking possession in April, there's only about a 70 basis point gap now between committed and in place. Speaker 500:43:21Yeah. You'd asked about the new leasing spreads. I mean, look, it's just a sign of the market, the sign of our portfolio, and the sign of our team, strength in them all. We feel confident that, you know, while this is an outsized quarter for new leasing spreads, it sets a tone, and I think it underscores the strength of the markets out there. Speaker 700:43:42On that front, maybe just a broader commentary. I mean, it seems we didn't think they could go higher, but you're setting all-time records. Like, is the market sequentially still improving, or are we at a period of stability here now after getting some really good rent growth? It just, it seems like you've got continued momentum. Speaker 500:44:04Yeah Speaker 700:44:04if you're seeing that in the marketplace now. Speaker 500:44:07It's certainly been a great quarter, and we think it is quite durable. That said, all of our projections that we provided at Investor Day were predicated on a 15% leasing spread combined. These leasing spreads are obviously in excess of that and we are certainly taking advantage of a very strong market, an ever-improving portfolio, and a team that has very deep relationships to continue driving growth. The consistency of these spreads, they're gonna ebb and flow. I mean, they're very sensitive to specific deals, and you'll see a bit of fluctuation between quarters. Right now, based on all those strengths that I spoke about and the strength of the Canadian retail landscape, we feel confident that it's not, you know, there will be a continued strength in that regard and operationally for RioCan. Speaker 500:44:59As I said, you're not gonna see that exact same level every single quarter going forward. We, we are, we're happy with where we currently stand, and, we think it's reasonably sustainable, but there is gonna be ebbing and flowing. Speaker 700:45:16That makes sense. Last one for me, just, obviously we've had a big M&A trade at a pretty low cap rate for some of the more core assets. Does that give you comfort around your IFRS value, maybe some optimism on the portfolio being more than what you thought it was worth, or just any read-throughs from a fairly sizable transaction in the negotiating? Speaker 500:45:41I don't even know which transaction you're referring to, Matt. Of course, for us, we've always been comfortable with our IFRS valuations. That's why we certify them and put them out there. That being said, I think that transaction stands as a great validation for the strength of retail in Canada and the desirability of it for both institutional owners and other REITs. I think again, it just draws us closer to what the private market has been seeing for quite some time. We've been seeing trades, I mean, they are quite disparate because there haven't been a lot of them, but we've been seeing trades that are also indicative of a very strong market for retail assets. Speaker 500:46:19This didn't surprise us, but I think it just serves as broader validation behind the strength and desirability of great major market retail assets like those owned by RioCan. Speaker 700:46:36Thanks, Edward Sonshine. Speaker 500:46:39Thanks, Matt, and thanks for your patience. Speaker 900:46:40As a reminder to thank you. As a reminder to ask a question, please press star followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad. Our next question comes from the line of Sam Damiani with TD. Your line is opened. Speaker 1100:46:55Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Maybe just on the, on the leasing side here, obviously a highlight for everyone seeing these spreads. You know, occupancy remains essentially full. You really can't accommodate, you know, new demand except for any turnover that you have, which also remains low. You know, how is the leasing discussions changing? How maybe the mix of tenant categories that you're dealing with as you deal with this increasingly scarce amount of available space in your portfolio? Speaker 500:47:31First off, thanks for your patience, Sam, and I understand that you might have missed the extremely eloquent opening remarks by Jennifer, myself, and Franca, and we'll get those to you. Speaker 1100:47:42Oh, no. I caught it all. It was wonderful. Speaker 500:47:42Look, the backdrop Oh, good. They were brilliant, right? The backdrop is very strong and I think, you know, we're doing extraordinarily well with the necessity-based tenants. Keeping in mind that we do have this mark-to-market opportunity that we have been conveying for a very long time. Our average new rents in the quarter were now well over CAD 30. Our average rents across the portfolio were just over CAD 23. That leaves a sizable room to really extract what we feel are market rents out of our portfolio, and the team has done an extremely good job in taking tenants through this and making them understand what the true landscape is. We're using data more so than we ever have to figure out exactly where market rates lie. Speaker 500:48:37With respect to the tenants out there that are utilizing the space, it really is the list of the same incumbent tenants that you've seen that make up a part of our portfolio for quite some time. I'll turn it over to Oliver Harrison and just give you a little more color on who they are, but I don't think you'll hear any surprises. Speaker 800:49:00Correct. It's, if you look at our quarter, the volume is really being driven by grocery, pharmacy, essential personal services. You know, no change from what we've seen over the past few quarters. Back to your first question, excuse me, on how the negotiations have changed. I would say the only thing, you know, that is being done differently, and this isn't like a Q1 event, but this has been happening, let's say, over the last, you know, 1 year to 18 months, is that, you know, the negotiations are more holistic than just the economic outcome of the deal. You know, we are using the current market environment to remove no builds. New leases do not have any fixed rent options. Speaker 800:49:53You know, annual growth is, you know, is a concept that, you know, 2 years ago was challenging to get tenants to agree to. 98% of our deals now have some form of annual growth embedded in, you know, in the negotiation. We are leveraging all aspects of this market to produce, you know, not only the best economic outcome of these deals, but from a long-term kind of value creation and flexibility. You know, we're, I think we're doing extremely well. Speaker 1100:50:30Okay, great. That's, that's helpful. Maybe just on the other side of it, you know, are there any known larger or multi-space retailer tenants that you expect to be moving out or not renewing in the coming year or two? Speaker 500:50:45I think just, there's certain tenants that, we know might leave a space, but they're sporadic. There's no theme to it. The good news is there's demand for whatever space we know might be coming back to us. Speaker 1100:51:00Okay, great. Just one last small one. You know, it was pretty tough winter. Just out of curiosity, was there snow removal costs, you know, meaningfully above normal in Q1? Speaker 400:51:14Hey, Sam. Yeah, they were. You know, there's probably four or five larger centers in the GTA area that we actually had to haul snow, which is expensive, which means you basically have to bill the tenants. The tenants do pay for all of this. We had to send out some interim billings just to catch up on that. Speaker 800:51:37Snow removal is not included in the limited number of tenants that have caps on CAM, so it is fully recoverable. Speaker 1100:51:47Oh, that's good. Okay, great. I'll turn it back. Thanks very much. Speaker 500:51:52Thanks, Sam. Speaker 900:51:56Our next caller comes from the line of Brad Sturges. Your line is open. Operator00:52:02Hey, good morning. Just from a capital allocation perspective, just thinking about the NCIB, obviously, you know, leverage ticked up over the quarter-over-quarter, and at the same time, I guess your stock price improved. Like, how do you think about capital allocation towards unit buybacks in the short term as still an opportunity, or should we see a little bit of a change in thinking, at least in the short run on the NCIB? Speaker 500:52:30Thanks, Brad, again, thanks for your patience on the call today. The capital allocation decisions are really rooted in achieving our 9% unlevered IRR hurdle. When the stock price goes up or the unit price goes up, it obviously makes it challenging to achieve that. The good news for us is that there are other opportunities to invest in, such as putting money into our own shopping centers, building out pads and strips, which in this environment certainly allows us to hurdle that 9% IRR number. Yeah, if we are in the fortunate circumstance where the unit price continues to increase, NCIB becomes less of a promising prospect for capital allocation, we feel that there will be, you know, other opportunities that arise out of there, out there. Speaker 500:53:17The other thing I'll just remind you of is that the balance sheet and the strength of it is a core principle for RioCan, so that will always be our principal focus. You know, as we've asserted before, as RioCan Living assets close as the year goes on, it will continue to strengthen that balance sheet, and we'll get closer to the mid part of that range for net debt to EBITDA. Operator00:53:42Just on the intensification opportunity, I know you've highlighted a few times in terms of the potential across the portfolio. I guess is there, in the short term, could we expect a couple more projects getting added into the active pipeline, or how should we think about that over the remainder of the year? Speaker 500:53:59Yeah. I think we've already put out guidance that we're gonna spend about CAD 100 million in 2026 on a combination of CapEx endeavors, one of which is, of course, putting money into pad build-outs and strip build-outs, and I think that's gonna be fairly consistent. We're gonna seek out as many opportunities as are logical on a year-by-year basis, but I think that's a logical run rate for years going forward, but we'll continue to update that guidance. Operator00:54:25Sounds good. Thank you. Speaker 900:54:30Our next question comes from the line of Dean Wilkinson. Your line is open. Speaker 500:54:35Hey, Dean. Speaker 100:54:36Thanks. Speaker 500:54:36Thanks for hanging in. Speaker 100:54:37Morning, everyone. Always, you know me, I hang. Jonathan, you know, look back over our illustrious careers. Every time we've seen, you know, things get better, right? The occupancy tightens up and rents are going up, new supply tends to come into the picture. When you look at the landscape now, is it still a case that just, you know, new construction costs, given land, all of those things associated with it? You just can't pencil that out, so the runway for existing assets is probably a little longer than maybe it has historically been. Speaker 500:55:13I'm highly confident that there'll be no material supply in the Canadian landscape anytime soon, Dean. That's not just because of the economic context. It's not just because you need certain rents to justify new build. You also need to find land, you know, unencumbered land of, like, you know, many acres that have rooftops and appropriate demographics surrounding it. That's very difficult to find. Then the attributes of that land have to be such that they're easily accessible, they've got great visibility, and that you've got tenants that necessarily want to be in that specific area. These things take time to find, and they're very far and few between out there. I would also say that you also have to get that land zoned, which is another very high barrier. Speaker 500:55:57For us, like, this is a long time away. If RioCan can't find viable land and the viable opportunities to build de novo, so greenfield new sites, then I suspect many others in the field will also have such difficulty. Which is, I mean, obviously a two-sided coin. On one hand, it really protects the landscape. There will be no material supply going forward. On the other hand, of course, it does limit our opportunities to build anew. The good news for us, as I alluded to before, is we have this excellent opportunity set, which is our own portfolio, and there's a lot of density to be had in that portfolio, which as you can see from our, you know, from the activity in our portfolio this year, we are fully intent on extracting and building out. Speaker 100:56:44That's the benefit of the cost basis. I suppose this is why investors are willing to pay a premium to book value to acquire assets, not a discount. That's it. Thanks a lot, Jonathan. Speaker 500:56:58Thanks, Dean. Speaker 900:57:02Our next question comes from the line of Pammi Bir with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open. Speaker 1000:57:08Thanks. Good morning. Just maybe coming back to the 4 RioCan Living rental residential properties that are left to sell. Where are they now in terms of that sale process? Like, are they, have they been listed or just not yet as you work to stabilize? Speaker 500:57:29There's I would say there's no consistent theme, Pammi. They're in different stages. Some of them we are actively putting in the market in very short order, and others we're actually working on some off-market discussions, and others are just not ready to do either. They really do range. As I said previously to one of your colleagues, we are confident that those assets will be sold. I mean, I will not say with certainty that all 4 of them will be sold and finalized by the end of 2026. I've indicated that there might be a couple that, literally just flow into next year simply because the assets aren't ready to be sold. They're not stabilized. I don't think it'll be a big delay beyond that. Speaker 1000:58:16Okay, got it. I did wanna come back to, I guess maybe clarify some of the comments on the remaining condo inventory that's under construction. Speaker 1000:58:27That CAD 1.3 billion target in the capital repatriation, I think there's still about CAD 120 million related to condo closings, if I read that table correctly. Speaker 1000:58:38in order to hit that target. I think your commentary, Franca's commentary suggested that there's no further condo income this year that you anticipate. Just trying to reconcile those two. Speaker 1000:58:51Those two comments and should we essentially infer that there's no further proceeds coming back this year in order to hit that CAD 1.3 billion, or just it wasn't clear? Speaker 500:59:03I'll start and then hand it to Franca, there's about CAD 100 million of inventory remaining. About CAD 14 million of those are under contract. We expect most of those to close. The remainder, we didn't have, we didn't prognosticate closings for the remainder of 2026. You know, in terms of how it features in that CAD 1.3, I'm gonna hand it over to Franca. Speaker 200:59:25Pammi, there's also some, if you look at the reconciliation in our materials, there's also some receivables that we're gonna be collecting from one of the projects that are entering into final closing. That's gonna be added to the proceeds. Right now, as we sell them, you know, we close on interim. When we get to final closing, we collect the cash. You'll see that coming through the reconciliation as well. Speaker 500:59:53The 1.3 in total is still the right number. Speaker 200:59:56Yeah. Speaker 1000:59:58Okay, it's still the right number. The total condo, I guess, proceeds, Franca, to your comments on the receivables, the CAD 370 is the cash number that should come through. Like the CAD 370 million is the aggregate number that should have been collected between 2025 and the end of this year. Speaker 201:00:16Yes. Speaker 1001:00:19Right. Okay. Just in terms of the restructuring charges, I mean, do you feel at this point like there's no further, I guess, any additional anticipated changes coming or charges, or are there perhaps some further efficiencies across the business that, you know, you're looking to, we may see? Speaker 501:00:45No, I don't think there's anything material. Speaker 1001:00:51Okay. Then just lastly, I wanted to come back to the comment around annual rent steps. You know, obviously we saw this, we've seen this with industrial now for many years, certainly in retail we'll be talking about it and seeing it as well. What range of spreads are you putting in, or sorry, annual steps are you putting in into some of the renewal leasing or the new leases? Speaker 501:01:13The objective is always 3%. We are attempting to do the greater of 3% in CPI, but that's of course the objective. Sometimes we'll get a little more, sometimes we'll get a little less. Oliver, did I miss anything? Speaker 801:01:27Yeah, between 2% and 4%. Speaker 501:01:28Yeah. Speaker 1001:01:34Okay. All right. Thanks very much. I'll turn it back. Speaker 501:01:37Thanks, Pammi. Thanks for your patience. Speaker 901:01:42I am showing no further questions at this time. I will now turn the conference back to President and CEO, Jonathan Gitlin. Speaker 501:01:51Well, thank you very much. Again, for all those of you who are still on the call, I really do appreciate your patience with the technical difficulties that we all experienced. I'll leave you with this. Our first quarter clearly demonstrates execution of the strategy that we presented at our investor day. We're delivering exactly what we said we would. We have absolute confidence in our people, our portfolio, and our strategy to drive long-term value. Thanks to everyone. 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There are 12 speakers on the call. Speaker 900:00:00Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the RioCan Real Estate Investment Trust first quarter 2026 conference call and webcast. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ms. Jennifer Suess, Senior Vice President, General Counsel, ESG, and Corporate Secretary. Ms. Suess, you may begin. Speaker 300:00:26Thank you. Good morning, everyone. I am Jennifer Suess, Senior Vice President, General Counsel, ESG, and Corporate Secretary of RioCan. Before we begin, I am required to read the following cautionary statement. In talking about our financial and operating performance and in responding to your questions, we may make forward-looking statements, including statements concerning RioCan's objectives, its strategies to achieve those objectives, as well as statements with respect to management's beliefs, plans, estimates, and intentions and similar statements concerning anticipated future events, results, circumstances, performance, or expectations that are not historical facts. These statements are based on our current estimates and assumptions and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from the conclusions in these forward-looking statements. Speaker 300:01:19In discussing our financial and operating performance and in responding to your questions, we will also be referencing certain financial measures that are not generally accepted accounting principle measures, GAAP, under IFRS. These measures do not have any standardized definition prescribed by IFRS and are therefore unlikely to be comparable to similar measures presented by other reporting issuers. Non-GAAP measures should not be considered as alternatives to net earnings or comparable metrics determined in accordance with IFRS as indicators of RioCan's performance, liquidity, cash flows, and profitability. RioCan's management uses these measures to aid in assessing the trust's underlying core performance and provides these additional measures so that investors may do the same. Speaker 300:02:03Additional information on the material risks that could impact our actual results and the estimates and assumptions we applied in making these forward-looking statements, together with details on our use of non-GAAP financial measures, can be found in the financial statements filed yesterday and management's discussion and analysis related thereto as applicable, together with RioCan's most recent annual information form that are all available on our website and at www.sedar+. I will now turn the call over to RioCan's President and CEO, Jonathan Gitlin. Speaker 500:02:38Thank you, Jennifer. Good morning, everyone, and thanks so much for joining us today. Our first quarter results reinforce the message we've consistently delivered since our 2025 investor day. RioCan is executing a strategy anchored in our retail core. We're delivering durable organic growth, enhanced financial flexibility, and meaningful long-term value for unitholders. Our strategy is supported by our proven and future-focused platform. It's grounded in a culture of excellence, ongoing innovation and technology advancement, and prudent ESG practices. The quarter demonstrated momentum across all our key priorities, including leasing performance, Same Property NOI growth, capital recycling, and disciplined balance sheet management. It did so in a manner that is consistent with the plan and targets we laid out at our investor day. First off, I'd like to highlight operations. Speaker 500:03:44Record blended leasing spreads of 25.8% in the quarter was driven by new leasing spreads of 58.5%. This demonstrates once again the potent mark-to-market opportunity within our retail portfolio. Importantly, these results are not one-offs. As we discussed last quarter, we continue to benefit from a favorable retail leasing super cycle driven by a combination of expiring legacy leases and constrained new supply. They also reflect the structural advantages we highlighted at our investor day. These include high quality, necessity-based retail in densely populated supply-constrained markets and strong, long-standing tenant relationships fostered over the last 30 years. We don't have an external sponsor that influences our decisions. That means we remain focused exclusively on maximizing the productivity of every square foot of our portfolio to drive unitholder value. Speaker 500:04:51The combination of our leasing strategy and full operating independence continues to translate into durable, repeatable growth. Our sustained organic growth reflects disciplined execution of our retail-focused strategy. Over the last 12 months, that focus has delivered blended leasing spreads of 23.1%, which are now beginning to translate into Same Property NOI growth. Our competitive advantages were on full display again this quarter with commercial Same Property NOI growth of 4.7%, marking the third consecutive quarter at or above 4.5%. While we expect commercial Same Property NOI growth to move modestly quarter-to-quarter, this level of performance reinforces our confidence in the full year outlook of 3.5%-4%. In the first quarter, we achieved a 92.4% retention ratio and a 98.6 committed retail occupancy. Speaker 500:05:57This underscores the resilience of our cash flows and our ability to strike the appropriate balance between peer-leading rent growth and extremely high occupancy. What we're seeing today is the compounding effect of years of disciplined portfolio positioning where leasing strength, occupancy, and mark-to-market gains reinforce one another. A second major pillar of the strategy we presented at our Investor Day was strategic capital recycling, particularly through RioCan Living. The progress this quarter was meaningful. As of May 4, 2026, we anticipate repatriating approximately CAD 1.04 billion through closed, firm, and conditional transactions. This represents approximately 80% of our CAD 1.3 billion RioCan Living disposition target. We continue to see strong interest in the remaining 4 RioCan Living assets. We're monetizing residential rental buildings and residential inventory. In doing so, we're simplifying our business and increasing clarity in our earnings profile. Speaker 500:07:10The proceeds are being redeployed accretively into portfolio investments, unit repurchases, and balance sheet flexibility, exactly as we outlined at Investor Day. Our capital allocation decisions continue to be guided by a disciplined hierarchy, always having a view on the most accretive outcome. During the quarter, we reinvested CAD 22 million into high return portfolio investments, including retail infill and asset enhancements. This allows us to unlock embedded density within our existing footprint. At the same time, we remained opportunistic in the public markets, repurchasing and canceling 2.6 million units at an average price of CAD 19.51 under our NCIB program. This reflects our view that the current unit price does not fully reflect the value and earnings power of our business. There's been a steady stream of private and now public market transactions involving high-quality retail assets and portfolios that are similar to ours. Speaker 500:08:21These market reference points offer strong evidence of current valuations for assets like ours, reinforcing that we are trading at below NAV. Our balance sheet remains well-positioned as assessed by a suite of key credit metrics. RioCan's adjusted spot debt to EBITDA is 8.94x. As we advance our capital recycling strategy through 2026, we fully anticipate net debt to EBITDA to settle into the midpoint of our stated guidance range. The strength and flexibility of our balance sheet were further recognized this quarter as Morningstar DBRS affirmed our BBB credit rating and revised the trend to positive. Looking ahead, we reaffirm our 2026 financial outlook, including Core FFO per unit of CAD 1.60-CAD 1.62. Additionally, we reaffirm our guidance of commercial Same Property NOI growth of 3.5%-4%. Speaker 500:09:28These targets are firmly supported by embedded leasing spreads already achieved, strong visibility on 2026 lease maturities, continued discipline and capital deployment, and reduced capital intensity as we complete the wind down of mixed-use construction. In closing, Q1 was a strong start to the year and a clear reflection of our consistent execution of the commitments we outlined at Investor Day. RioCan has a focused strategy and is perfectly positioned to compound organic growth. The trust has strong leasing fundamentals and a data platform that continues to provide multi-year growth visibility. We're also equipped with the balance sheet flexibility to act decisively. In this turbulent world, owning hard assets with reliable cash flow in prime markets is advantageous. To put it another way, it is a great time to invest in RioCan. Speaker 500:10:30With that, I'll turn the call over to Franca Smith, RioCan's interim Chief Financial Officer, and afterwards, we'll be happy to take your questions. Speaker 200:10:40Thank you, Jonathan, and good morning, everyone. Our first quarter results were in line with our expectations and reflect continued progress on the priorities we set out at our Investor Day, driving organic growth from our retail core and maintaining a disciplined approach to capital allocation. Our balance sheet remains strong, supported by healthy credit metrics. Our financial flexibility continues to improve as we execute our capital recycling strategy. I'll walk through the quarter starting with Core FFO. As discussed at Investor Day last fall, we intentionally moved to Core FFO as a key performance metric because it better reflects the recurring earnings power of our core retail business. Core FFO also gives a more consistent basis to track and assess operating performance and cash flow generation over time. Speaker 200:11:41Mechanically, it starts with FFO and adjusts for items that don't reflect our underlying run rate operations, such as residential inventory gains, HBC related income, and restructuring charges. Core FFO in the first quarter was CAD 0.39 per unit in line with Q1 of last year. There were four primary drivers of our Core FFO results. Commercial Same Property NOI increased 4.7% year-over-year, contributing over CAD 0.02 per unit. Our unit buybacks had a positive impact of approximately CAD 0.01 per unit. These factors were offset primarily by higher interest expense and lower interest income, which had a combined impact of just over CAD 0.02 per unit. Lower NOI from the sale of residential rental assets had an impact of approximately CAD 0.01 per unit. Speaker 200:12:39We anticipate Core FFO to ramp up over the balance of the year, and as Jonathan mentioned, we expect to deliver on our 2026 guidance. Turning to other items in the quarter, we recorded approximately CAD 2 million of one-time restructuring costs related to the reduction and consolidation of development and construction functions. Adjusted G&A expense as a percentage of rental revenue, which excludes these restructuring costs, is expected to remain below 4% on a full-year basis. We also recorded approximately CAD 6 million of condo-related income in the quarter. Remaining residential inventory under construction is approximately CAD 100 million at our proportionate share, or roughly 1% of NAV. While this balance will be addressed responsibly over time, we do not expect condominium-related items to make a material contribution to FFO for the remainder of the year. Speaker 200:13:39Together, these 2 items account for the majority of the difference between FFO and Core FFO. Moving on to our balance sheet. Our adjusted spot debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio was 8.94 times at quarter end. The increase versus year end was primarily driven by acquisition timing related to Georgian Mall and Oakville Place. The increase versus year end was primarily driven by acquisition timing related to Georgian Mall and Oakville Place, where the associated EBITDA contribution builds over time, while the associated debt was recognized immediately during the quarter. We expect these acquisitions to contribute positively to both Core FFO and our leverage profile over time. Looking across our suite of metrics, our unsecured debt to total debt improved to 66%, and this mix will continue to improve as we execute on our financing plan. Speaker 200:14:41We had approximately CAD 9.4 billion of unencumbered assets and approximately CAD 1.3 billion of available liquidity at quarter end, providing ample financial flexibility and capacity. As Jonathan also mentioned, during the first quarter, DBRS reaffirmed our triple B credit rating and revised the trend from stable to positive. We view this as an important endorsement of our balance sheet trajectory and the continued progress we are making on deleveraging. On financing activity during the quarter, we raised CAD 200 million of senior unsecured debentures with a 4.308% coupon rate and a 7-year term. We also repaid CAD 100 million of unsecured debentures upon maturity. For the balance of the year, we expect that our capital recycling activities and capacity on our credit facility will be used to repay the vast majority of our remaining debt maturities. Speaker 200:15:43Additional debt issuances will be completed on an opportunistic basis. To wrap up, our first quarter results represent a strong start to the year and align with the 3-year outlook we shared at Investor Day. Operating fundamentals across our portfolio remain exceptional, and we are delivering on our strategy and commitments. Both private and public market transactions continue to validate the inherent value of our business, and we remain focused on executing our plan to drive unitholder value. With that, I will turn the call back to the operator to begin the question-and-answer session. Speaker 900:16:25Ladies and gentlemen, we are currently experiencing technical difficulties. Please stand by as we resolve this issue before proceeding with our question-and-answer session. Speaker 900:35:08Ladies and gentlemen, we apologize once again for any technical difficulties. A full recording will be made available and sent out to you all. We are now ready for the Q&A portion of today. As a reminder, to please ask a question, please press star followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad. Once again, that is star followed by the number 1 to enter the question queue. We will pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Okay. Our first question is in queue. If you can please state your name and company, that would be greatly appreciated. Your line is open. Speaker 600:36:21Is it mine? Speaker 900:36:24Yes. Yes, your line is open. Speaker 600:36:24Sorry. It's Lorne Kalmar from Desjardins. Apologies. I didn't know whose line was open. Just one more little technical difficulty, but let's put that behind us and get down to the good stuff. On Same Property NOI, you guys had the continuation, I think, of some solid prints in 3Q and 4Q into 1Q. And I think you called out a part of that was the spaces that had gone dark in 2024, cash rents resuming. How do you expect Same Property NOI to trend over the balance of the year? Kind of 2Q should be another one that's a little bit outsized, then it moderates a bit over the back half. Speaker 500:37:03Hey Lorne, a couple of things to start. First of all, you no need to apologize on your end. This is totally our service provider's issue. Second of all, love the headline of your report. Wooderson is always a good quote. Thirdly, with respect to SPNOI, we had a great quarter. The year is going very well. It's a little too premature to predict the entire remainder of the year, and we still remain very confident in our guidance. It will be between 3.5%-4%. Things are all pointing to very favorable outcomes and if the year continues to go the way it is going, we will provide updated guidance in the coming quarters. Speaker 500:37:47Right now we are firmly confident behind the 3.5%-4% number that we gave out in our guidance. Speaker 600:37:55Okay. That's good to hear. Maybe just flipping to the RioCan Living side of things. It seems like you guys made some really good progress there. I was just wondering if you'd give us a, I know it's a sensitive one, but a rough idea perhaps of the yield on the assets that are either sold or under agreement to be sold, and then just maybe an idea of the buyer profile. Speaker 500:38:22Sure, Lorne. It's all in line with our IFRS values and, you know, it's in the again, the low 4-mid 4 range across the board. That's a balanced summer, lower summer or a bit higher. The buyer pool is consistent with the pool of buyers that we've had to date, which is a range. It's some private wealth and family office buyers. It's some institutional buyers and it is some private equity buyers. It really is a range. Speaker 600:39:02I guess as you kind of look ahead, I think you got 4 or so left to go. Has there been any change in the acquisition transaction environment since the aforementioned deals were consummated? Speaker 500:39:17No, it still remains strong. These assets are new, they're transit oriented, they don't have rent control, and there's a high degree of demand for them. For us it's just a question of getting all of them stabilized, getting the lease up as we intend to get it, and then I think there will be a fairly robust market for them. Speaker 600:39:43Okay. Then I guess, just to be clear, you still expect those remaining four to kind of, hopefully transact on them by the end of the year? Speaker 500:39:53As I've indicated previously, it's our intention to get them done as quickly as possible, just because of stabilization taking a little bit longer. There might be 2 of them that trickle into 2027. Our hope is that we have them contracted for by the end of the year, and we'll provide updates as the year progresses. Given the strength of the assets, and given our desire to sell, we are confident that they will all be sold in short thrift. Speaker 600:40:20Okay. Thank you so much. I'll turn it back. Speaker 500:40:23Thanks, Lorne. Speaker 900:40:26Our next question comes from the line of Matt Kornack. Your line is open. Speaker 700:40:31Hey, guys. Speaker 500:40:33Hey, Matt. Speaker 700:40:33strong quarter on Same Property NOI growth. That's notwithstanding, it looks like recoveries were maybe 99% as opposed to 100% historically. Could you give us a sense if that's just a timing issue in this particular quarter? Also percentage rent looks a little bit low relative to what we've expected in the past, but if there's anything color-wise there, that would be helpful. Speaker 500:41:01I think it's all just seasonality. I don't think there's anything to read into it. On the percentage rent, most certainly it's seasonal and that usually picks up as the year progresses. On the recoveries, again, I think that is really just a byproduct of the fact that it was first quarter, usually a little bit softer on the recoveries. That usually stabilizes and ramps up by the end of the year. Speaker 400:41:25Yeah, Matt, the only thing I'd add, this is John Ballantyne. Percentage rent, you'll probably see that drop over time, not because tenant sales productivity is decreasing, but because we are converting some, I would say, historic or legacy percentage rent in lieu of net rents. You know, based on the hotness of this leasing market, we're able to get in front of these tenants and convert them to net deals, which will obviously benefit Same Property NOI. Speaker 700:41:54Okay. No, that makes sense. On the in-place occupancy front, committed remains essentially at an all-time high fold, but there was a little bit of a dip in the in-place. Did you have some tenant turnover? If we look at your new leasing spreads in like the 50%+ range, is that the kind of rents you're getting on any sort of turnover you're seeing in tenants? Speaker 500:42:22Yeah, I think that the, this is, I would say an anomalous quarter with respect to that gap between committed and in-place occupancy. Based on the leasing that the team has done, you're already seeing that gap close quite dramatically, and largely due to the HBC deals that we did in Oakville Place. I think you'll see it back to the normal range, closer to 75 basis points, which is our historic average. The second part of the question I can hand over to John. Speaker 400:42:53Yeah. Look, Matt Kornack, the in-place occupancy did drop. We did buy a half interest in Oakville and Georgian Mall, which obviously had those two HBC boxes, which have been fully leased, but are not paying rent yet. That accounted for about 40 basis points. As Jonathan Gitlin said, with Oakville taking possession in April, there's only about a 70 basis point gap now between committed and in place. Speaker 500:43:21Yeah. You'd asked about the new leasing spreads. I mean, look, it's just a sign of the market, the sign of our portfolio, and the sign of our team, strength in them all. We feel confident that, you know, while this is an outsized quarter for new leasing spreads, it sets a tone, and I think it underscores the strength of the markets out there. Speaker 700:43:42On that front, maybe just a broader commentary. I mean, it seems we didn't think they could go higher, but you're setting all-time records. Like, is the market sequentially still improving, or are we at a period of stability here now after getting some really good rent growth? It just, it seems like you've got continued momentum. Speaker 500:44:04Yeah Speaker 700:44:04if you're seeing that in the marketplace now. Speaker 500:44:07It's certainly been a great quarter, and we think it is quite durable. That said, all of our projections that we provided at Investor Day were predicated on a 15% leasing spread combined. These leasing spreads are obviously in excess of that and we are certainly taking advantage of a very strong market, an ever-improving portfolio, and a team that has very deep relationships to continue driving growth. The consistency of these spreads, they're gonna ebb and flow. I mean, they're very sensitive to specific deals, and you'll see a bit of fluctuation between quarters. Right now, based on all those strengths that I spoke about and the strength of the Canadian retail landscape, we feel confident that it's not, you know, there will be a continued strength in that regard and operationally for RioCan. Speaker 500:44:59As I said, you're not gonna see that exact same level every single quarter going forward. We, we are, we're happy with where we currently stand, and, we think it's reasonably sustainable, but there is gonna be ebbing and flowing. Speaker 700:45:16That makes sense. Last one for me, just, obviously we've had a big M&A trade at a pretty low cap rate for some of the more core assets. Does that give you comfort around your IFRS value, maybe some optimism on the portfolio being more than what you thought it was worth, or just any read-throughs from a fairly sizable transaction in the negotiating? Speaker 500:45:41I don't even know which transaction you're referring to, Matt. Of course, for us, we've always been comfortable with our IFRS valuations. That's why we certify them and put them out there. That being said, I think that transaction stands as a great validation for the strength of retail in Canada and the desirability of it for both institutional owners and other REITs. I think again, it just draws us closer to what the private market has been seeing for quite some time. We've been seeing trades, I mean, they are quite disparate because there haven't been a lot of them, but we've been seeing trades that are also indicative of a very strong market for retail assets. Speaker 500:46:19This didn't surprise us, but I think it just serves as broader validation behind the strength and desirability of great major market retail assets like those owned by RioCan. Speaker 700:46:36Thanks, Edward Sonshine. Speaker 500:46:39Thanks, Matt, and thanks for your patience. Speaker 900:46:40As a reminder to thank you. As a reminder to ask a question, please press star followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad. Our next question comes from the line of Sam Damiani with TD. Your line is opened. Speaker 1100:46:55Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Maybe just on the, on the leasing side here, obviously a highlight for everyone seeing these spreads. You know, occupancy remains essentially full. You really can't accommodate, you know, new demand except for any turnover that you have, which also remains low. You know, how is the leasing discussions changing? How maybe the mix of tenant categories that you're dealing with as you deal with this increasingly scarce amount of available space in your portfolio? Speaker 500:47:31First off, thanks for your patience, Sam, and I understand that you might have missed the extremely eloquent opening remarks by Jennifer, myself, and Franca, and we'll get those to you. Speaker 1100:47:42Oh, no. I caught it all. It was wonderful. Speaker 500:47:42Look, the backdrop Oh, good. They were brilliant, right? The backdrop is very strong and I think, you know, we're doing extraordinarily well with the necessity-based tenants. Keeping in mind that we do have this mark-to-market opportunity that we have been conveying for a very long time. Our average new rents in the quarter were now well over CAD 30. Our average rents across the portfolio were just over CAD 23. That leaves a sizable room to really extract what we feel are market rents out of our portfolio, and the team has done an extremely good job in taking tenants through this and making them understand what the true landscape is. We're using data more so than we ever have to figure out exactly where market rates lie. Speaker 500:48:37With respect to the tenants out there that are utilizing the space, it really is the list of the same incumbent tenants that you've seen that make up a part of our portfolio for quite some time. I'll turn it over to Oliver Harrison and just give you a little more color on who they are, but I don't think you'll hear any surprises. Speaker 800:49:00Correct. It's, if you look at our quarter, the volume is really being driven by grocery, pharmacy, essential personal services. You know, no change from what we've seen over the past few quarters. Back to your first question, excuse me, on how the negotiations have changed. I would say the only thing, you know, that is being done differently, and this isn't like a Q1 event, but this has been happening, let's say, over the last, you know, 1 year to 18 months, is that, you know, the negotiations are more holistic than just the economic outcome of the deal. You know, we are using the current market environment to remove no builds. New leases do not have any fixed rent options. Speaker 800:49:53You know, annual growth is, you know, is a concept that, you know, 2 years ago was challenging to get tenants to agree to. 98% of our deals now have some form of annual growth embedded in, you know, in the negotiation. We are leveraging all aspects of this market to produce, you know, not only the best economic outcome of these deals, but from a long-term kind of value creation and flexibility. You know, we're, I think we're doing extremely well. Speaker 1100:50:30Okay, great. That's, that's helpful. Maybe just on the other side of it, you know, are there any known larger or multi-space retailer tenants that you expect to be moving out or not renewing in the coming year or two? Speaker 500:50:45I think just, there's certain tenants that, we know might leave a space, but they're sporadic. There's no theme to it. The good news is there's demand for whatever space we know might be coming back to us. Speaker 1100:51:00Okay, great. Just one last small one. You know, it was pretty tough winter. Just out of curiosity, was there snow removal costs, you know, meaningfully above normal in Q1? Speaker 400:51:14Hey, Sam. Yeah, they were. You know, there's probably four or five larger centers in the GTA area that we actually had to haul snow, which is expensive, which means you basically have to bill the tenants. The tenants do pay for all of this. We had to send out some interim billings just to catch up on that. Speaker 800:51:37Snow removal is not included in the limited number of tenants that have caps on CAM, so it is fully recoverable. Speaker 1100:51:47Oh, that's good. Okay, great. I'll turn it back. Thanks very much. Speaker 500:51:52Thanks, Sam. Speaker 900:51:56Our next caller comes from the line of Brad Sturges. Your line is open. Operator00:52:02Hey, good morning. Just from a capital allocation perspective, just thinking about the NCIB, obviously, you know, leverage ticked up over the quarter-over-quarter, and at the same time, I guess your stock price improved. Like, how do you think about capital allocation towards unit buybacks in the short term as still an opportunity, or should we see a little bit of a change in thinking, at least in the short run on the NCIB? Speaker 500:52:30Thanks, Brad, again, thanks for your patience on the call today. The capital allocation decisions are really rooted in achieving our 9% unlevered IRR hurdle. When the stock price goes up or the unit price goes up, it obviously makes it challenging to achieve that. The good news for us is that there are other opportunities to invest in, such as putting money into our own shopping centers, building out pads and strips, which in this environment certainly allows us to hurdle that 9% IRR number. Yeah, if we are in the fortunate circumstance where the unit price continues to increase, NCIB becomes less of a promising prospect for capital allocation, we feel that there will be, you know, other opportunities that arise out of there, out there. Speaker 500:53:17The other thing I'll just remind you of is that the balance sheet and the strength of it is a core principle for RioCan, so that will always be our principal focus. You know, as we've asserted before, as RioCan Living assets close as the year goes on, it will continue to strengthen that balance sheet, and we'll get closer to the mid part of that range for net debt to EBITDA. Operator00:53:42Just on the intensification opportunity, I know you've highlighted a few times in terms of the potential across the portfolio. I guess is there, in the short term, could we expect a couple more projects getting added into the active pipeline, or how should we think about that over the remainder of the year? Speaker 500:53:59Yeah. I think we've already put out guidance that we're gonna spend about CAD 100 million in 2026 on a combination of CapEx endeavors, one of which is, of course, putting money into pad build-outs and strip build-outs, and I think that's gonna be fairly consistent. We're gonna seek out as many opportunities as are logical on a year-by-year basis, but I think that's a logical run rate for years going forward, but we'll continue to update that guidance. Operator00:54:25Sounds good. Thank you. Speaker 900:54:30Our next question comes from the line of Dean Wilkinson. Your line is open. Speaker 500:54:35Hey, Dean. Speaker 100:54:36Thanks. Speaker 500:54:36Thanks for hanging in. Speaker 100:54:37Morning, everyone. Always, you know me, I hang. Jonathan, you know, look back over our illustrious careers. Every time we've seen, you know, things get better, right? The occupancy tightens up and rents are going up, new supply tends to come into the picture. When you look at the landscape now, is it still a case that just, you know, new construction costs, given land, all of those things associated with it? You just can't pencil that out, so the runway for existing assets is probably a little longer than maybe it has historically been. Speaker 500:55:13I'm highly confident that there'll be no material supply in the Canadian landscape anytime soon, Dean. That's not just because of the economic context. It's not just because you need certain rents to justify new build. You also need to find land, you know, unencumbered land of, like, you know, many acres that have rooftops and appropriate demographics surrounding it. That's very difficult to find. Then the attributes of that land have to be such that they're easily accessible, they've got great visibility, and that you've got tenants that necessarily want to be in that specific area. These things take time to find, and they're very far and few between out there. I would also say that you also have to get that land zoned, which is another very high barrier. Speaker 500:55:57For us, like, this is a long time away. If RioCan can't find viable land and the viable opportunities to build de novo, so greenfield new sites, then I suspect many others in the field will also have such difficulty. Which is, I mean, obviously a two-sided coin. On one hand, it really protects the landscape. There will be no material supply going forward. On the other hand, of course, it does limit our opportunities to build anew. The good news for us, as I alluded to before, is we have this excellent opportunity set, which is our own portfolio, and there's a lot of density to be had in that portfolio, which as you can see from our, you know, from the activity in our portfolio this year, we are fully intent on extracting and building out. Speaker 100:56:44That's the benefit of the cost basis. I suppose this is why investors are willing to pay a premium to book value to acquire assets, not a discount. That's it. Thanks a lot, Jonathan. Speaker 500:56:58Thanks, Dean. Speaker 900:57:02Our next question comes from the line of Pammi Bir with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open. Speaker 1000:57:08Thanks. Good morning. Just maybe coming back to the 4 RioCan Living rental residential properties that are left to sell. Where are they now in terms of that sale process? Like, are they, have they been listed or just not yet as you work to stabilize? Speaker 500:57:29There's I would say there's no consistent theme, Pammi. They're in different stages. Some of them we are actively putting in the market in very short order, and others we're actually working on some off-market discussions, and others are just not ready to do either. They really do range. As I said previously to one of your colleagues, we are confident that those assets will be sold. I mean, I will not say with certainty that all 4 of them will be sold and finalized by the end of 2026. I've indicated that there might be a couple that, literally just flow into next year simply because the assets aren't ready to be sold. They're not stabilized. I don't think it'll be a big delay beyond that. Speaker 1000:58:16Okay, got it. I did wanna come back to, I guess maybe clarify some of the comments on the remaining condo inventory that's under construction. Speaker 1000:58:27That CAD 1.3 billion target in the capital repatriation, I think there's still about CAD 120 million related to condo closings, if I read that table correctly. Speaker 1000:58:38in order to hit that target. I think your commentary, Franca's commentary suggested that there's no further condo income this year that you anticipate. Just trying to reconcile those two. Speaker 1000:58:51Those two comments and should we essentially infer that there's no further proceeds coming back this year in order to hit that CAD 1.3 billion, or just it wasn't clear? Speaker 500:59:03I'll start and then hand it to Franca, there's about CAD 100 million of inventory remaining. About CAD 14 million of those are under contract. We expect most of those to close. The remainder, we didn't have, we didn't prognosticate closings for the remainder of 2026. You know, in terms of how it features in that CAD 1.3, I'm gonna hand it over to Franca. Speaker 200:59:25Pammi, there's also some, if you look at the reconciliation in our materials, there's also some receivables that we're gonna be collecting from one of the projects that are entering into final closing. That's gonna be added to the proceeds. Right now, as we sell them, you know, we close on interim. When we get to final closing, we collect the cash. You'll see that coming through the reconciliation as well. Speaker 500:59:53The 1.3 in total is still the right number. Speaker 200:59:56Yeah. Speaker 1000:59:58Okay, it's still the right number. The total condo, I guess, proceeds, Franca, to your comments on the receivables, the CAD 370 is the cash number that should come through. Like the CAD 370 million is the aggregate number that should have been collected between 2025 and the end of this year. Speaker 201:00:16Yes. Speaker 1001:00:19Right. Okay. Just in terms of the restructuring charges, I mean, do you feel at this point like there's no further, I guess, any additional anticipated changes coming or charges, or are there perhaps some further efficiencies across the business that, you know, you're looking to, we may see? Speaker 501:00:45No, I don't think there's anything material. Speaker 1001:00:51Okay. Then just lastly, I wanted to come back to the comment around annual rent steps. You know, obviously we saw this, we've seen this with industrial now for many years, certainly in retail we'll be talking about it and seeing it as well. What range of spreads are you putting in, or sorry, annual steps are you putting in into some of the renewal leasing or the new leases? Speaker 501:01:13The objective is always 3%. We are attempting to do the greater of 3% in CPI, but that's of course the objective. Sometimes we'll get a little more, sometimes we'll get a little less. Oliver, did I miss anything? Speaker 801:01:27Yeah, between 2% and 4%. Speaker 501:01:28Yeah. Speaker 1001:01:34Okay. All right. Thanks very much. I'll turn it back. Speaker 501:01:37Thanks, Pammi. Thanks for your patience. Speaker 901:01:42I am showing no further questions at this time. I will now turn the conference back to President and CEO, Jonathan Gitlin. Speaker 501:01:51Well, thank you very much. Again, for all those of you who are still on the call, I really do appreciate your patience with the technical difficulties that we all experienced. I'll leave you with this. Our first quarter clearly demonstrates execution of the strategy that we presented at our investor day. We're delivering exactly what we said we would. We have absolute confidence in our people, our portfolio, and our strategy to drive long-term value. Thanks to everyone. Thank you again for your patience.Read morePowered by