MKS Q1 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Q1 beat and strong Q2 guide — revenue of $1.08 billion (+15% YoY) and EPS of $2.30 topped guidance, with Q2 revenue guided to $1.2 billion ±$40M and EPS $2.90 ±$0.30, and management expects semiconductor and E&P revenues to accelerate meaningfully.
  • Positive Sentiment: AI-driven demand is the primary growth driver — rising complexity and layer counts are increasing deposition/etch intensity and PCB chemistry/equipment needs, producing strong bookings for lasers, chemistry, remote plasma, dissolved gas and PCB laser drilling.
  • Positive Sentiment: Margins and operating leverage remain strong — Q1 gross margin was 47% (high end of guide), operating margin 21.8% and adjusted EBITDA margin 25.7%; management expects to sustain ~47% gross margin with ~50% incremental conversion on new sales.
  • Negative Sentiment: Leverage and free cash flow warrant caution — net debt is $3.6 billion (net leverage ~3.5x) and Q1 free cash flow was only $29 million (seasonally low), though the company retains $1.5 billion liquidity and is making proactive debt paydowns.
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Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the MKS Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Paretosh Misra, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Paretosh Misra
Paretosh Misra
VP of Investor Relations at MKS

Good morning, everyone. I'm Paretosh Misra, Vice President of Investor Relations, and I'm joined this morning by John Lee, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Ram Mayampurath, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Yesterday, after market close, we released our financial results for the first quarter of 2026, which are posted to our investor website at investor.mks.com. As a reminder, various remarks about future expectations, plans, and prospects for MKS comprise forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially as a result of various important factors, including those discussed in yesterday's press release and in our most recent annual reports on Form 10-K and any subsequent quarterly reports on Form 10-Q.

Paretosh Misra
Paretosh Misra
VP of Investor Relations at MKS

These statements present the company's expectations only as of today and should not be relied upon as representing the company's estimates or views as of any date subsequent to today, and the company disclaims any obligation to update these statements. During the call, we will be discussing various non-GAAP financial measures. Unless otherwise noted, all income statement-related financial measures will be non-GAAP, other than revenue and gross margin. Please refer to our press release and the presentation materials posted to the investor relations section of our website for information regarding our non-GAAP financial results and a reconciliation to our GAAP measures. Our investor website also provides a detailed breakout of revenues by end market and division. Now, I'll turn the call over to John.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

Thanks, Paretosh, and good morning, everyone. 2026 is off to an outstanding start for MKS. First quarter revenue, gross margin, and EPS all came in at the high end or above our guidance ranges, and our Q2 guidance shows that we expect this momentum to continue, driven by strong bookings across our end markets. In the semiconductor market, MKS has a long-standing track record of outperforming WFE in up cycles. We are in an excellent position to capitalize on chipmakers' ambitious AI-driven CapEx plans, which are accelerating technology inflections that enable more complex vertical structures in semiconductor devices. In electronics and packaging, our leading position in chemistries and chemistry equipment set this up for long-term growth with strong margins. Similar to semi, AI is driving increased complexity and layer counts in advanced circuit board manufacturing.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

Together, this translates into rising deposition and etch intensity in semi and more equipment and chemistry for PCB plating. Our specialty industrial portfolio is expected to continue delivering steady performance over the long term with incremental cash flow generation as we leverage our leading technologies across this end market. We are well-equipped from a capacity perspective to support the demand growth we are seeing today, and we are positioned to support higher levels of growth into the future as we prepare to open our new Super Center facility in Malaysia this June. MKS' strong position is a function of a broad portfolio of foundational technologies strengthened by design wins through the down cycle that are now powering results as demand increases. We continue to prioritize investing in collaborative development programs with our customers that are driving new design wins.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

These investments are yielding a broad array of advanced products like our enhanced precursor monitoring capabilities, ultra-fast lasers for back-end semi applications, and dissolved gas solutions for leading-edge nodes, among others. Our commitment to investing in R&D on a through-cycle basis is a key reason our customers continue to partner with us, and we are excited about the opportunities that these partnerships are creating for MKS. Starting with the semiconductor market, revenue for Q1 came in just above the high end of our expectations, growing 13% year-over-year and 7% sequentially. The growth was broad-based across products targeted to DRAM, NAND, and foundry logic applications.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

The sequential revenue growth was the best we've seen in some time, driven by our vacuum and power products serving deposition and etch applications, our plasma and reactive gas offerings for advanced logic nodes, and our photonics solutions targeted to applications in lithography, metrology, and inspection. Notably, our power solutions growth reflects increasing NAND equipment upgrades. AI is driving demand for more enterprise storage needed to support growth in inferencing applications, and that is leading to the faster migration to higher layer counts. Looking into Q2, we continue to see strong order activity, especially in remote plasma and microwave for advanced DRAM applications, dissolved gas for logic applications, and lasers for back-end applications. As a result, we expect semiconductor revenue to accelerate, growing high teens sequentially and over 25% year-over-year.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

Turning to electronics and packaging, revenue surpassed the high end of our expectations, up 6% sequentially despite normal seasonality related to the Lunar New Year, and up 27% year-over-year. This strength was led by flex PCB drilling systems following consumer electronics seasonality, as well as continued strong performance in chemistry and chemistry equipment. Excluding the impact of FX and palladium passthrough, chemistry sales increased 22% year-over-year, driven by AI-related advanced PCB manufacturing and high-end smartphones. We continue to see a very robust order environment for our laser drilling equipment, chemistry, and chemistry equipment. To that end, we expect Q2 electronics and packaging revenue to grow in the high single digits sequentially and over 30% year-over-year, with strength in both chemistry and chemistry equipment. Laser drilling orders remain very healthy as PCB manufacturing complexity increases across end market applications.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

The strength we are seeing is primarily in flex for smartphones and wearables, but also for rigid PCB laser applications related to the low Earth orbit satellite market. Overall, our performance in Q1 and guidance for Q2 indicates that we are not currently seeing any material impact from higher memory pricing on the consumer electronics end markets. In specialty industrial, performance was steady as anticipated, with a modest sequential decline primarily due to seasonality, but an 8% growth year-over-year, driven by strength in certain applications such as datacom and defense. In Q2, we anticipate a slight uptick sequentially. We remain confident in specialty industrial as a steady contributor to our business with attractive margins and incremental cash flows. As we look to Q2 and beyond, we believe we are in an excellent position.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

Our visibility is improving in a rising demand environment, and the fundamental trends of rising complexity and increasing layer counts favor MKS across our key end markets. Order volumes are healthy and serve as a leading indicator of our deeply embedded position in leading-edge processes and systems critical to addressing advanced electronics in the AI era. Foundational nature of our products can be seen in our gross margin performance, which underscores the value we are delivering to customers. We are focused on capitalizing on the robust set of opportunities in front of us, and we're well prepared to do so with the capacity in our global production footprint. With that, I want to thank our MKS teams for their dedication and outstanding execution, our customers and suppliers for their partnership in a dynamic demand environment, and our shareholders for their interest and support.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

Now I'll turn it over to Ram.

Ram Mayampurath
Ram Mayampurath
EVP and CFO at MKS

Thank you, John, and good morning, everyone. We delivered an excellent first quarter. We are seeing increased demand across our key end markets, and we remain focused on disciplined execution and driving profitable growth. Let me begin by reviewing Q1 results in detail. MKS reported a revenue of $1.08 billion, up 4% sequentially and 15% year-over-year. First quarter semiconductor revenue was $466 million, up 7% sequentially and 13% year-over-year. The result was driven by strengthening demand, especially in DRAM and logic and foundry applications. The sequential increase was led by our vacuum products and plasma and reactive gases offerings. We also saw an uptick in revenue related to NAND upgrade activity, which benefits our RF power business. Year-over-year comparisons reflect broad-based strength across many product categories, consistent with an improving semi demand environment.

Ram Mayampurath
Ram Mayampurath
EVP and CFO at MKS

First quarter electronics and packaging revenue was $321 million, an increase of 6% quarter-over-quarter and 27% year-over-year. This sequential improvement reflected higher flexible PCB drilling and chemistry sales, even with the seasonal impact of the Lunar New Year. The compelling year-over-year comparison was driven by healthy underlying growth across chemistry, flexible PCB drilling equipment, and chemistry equipment. Chemistry sales in the quarter were up 22% year-over-year, excluding the impact of FX and palladium passthrough, underscoring the accelerating demand from AI-related applications. In our specialty industrial market, first quarter revenue was $291 million, a decrease of 2% sequentially, reflecting Lunar New Year seasonality. Revenue was up 8% on a year-over-year basis, supported by modest improvements across several of our key market categories.

Ram Mayampurath
Ram Mayampurath
EVP and CFO at MKS

Turning to gross margin, we reported first quarter gross margin of 47%, which is the high end of our guidance. As a reminder, Q1 into 2025 did not include incremental tariff impacts. We are seeing benefits from higher volume and favorable mix, including higher chemistry revenue, which more than offset the impact of higher palladium prices, which are passed through at 0 margin. First quarter operating income was approximately $235 million, yielding an operating margin of 21.8%, which is well above our guidance midpoint. Operating expenses of $271 million included higher R&D investments and a seasonal increase in stock-based compensation. First quarter Adjusted EBITDA was $277 million, yielding a 25.7% margin, and also at the high end of our guidance.

Ram Mayampurath
Ram Mayampurath
EVP and CFO at MKS

Net interest expenses was $37 million, compared with $45 million in the first quarter of 2025. Reflecting the benefits of the financing transactions we closed in the first quarter, as well as continued proactive principal prepayments. Our first quarter effective tax rate was 20.9% and in line with our guidance. We started the year strong with first quarter net earnings of $157 million, or $2.30 per diluted share, which is above the high end of our guidance. Let me now turn to cash flow and balance sheet. We closed the quarter with $1.5 billion of liquidity, comprised of cash and cash equivalents of $569 million, and our undrawn revolving credit facility of $1 billion. Free cash flow was $29 million.

Ram Mayampurath
Ram Mayampurath
EVP and CFO at MKS

As a reminder, Q1 is typically the low point of the year due to timing of variable compensation payments. In addition to this, we are also seeing an increase in working capital related to the ramp in demand. As we have said before, our first capital allocation priority is to make the investments needed to support business growth. Additionally, we continue to focus on proactive deleveraging, including another payment of $100 million on our term loan earlier this week. Net debt at quarter end was $3.6 billion. That combined with trailing 12-month Adjusted EBITDA of over $1 billion resulted in a net leverage ratio of 3.5x. Finally, during the first quarter, we increased our dividend by 14% to $0.25 per share, or $17 million. Let me now turn to second quarter outlook.

Ram Mayampurath
Ram Mayampurath
EVP and CFO at MKS

We expect revenue of $1.2 billion ±$40 million. By end market, our second quarter outlook is as follows: Revenue from our Semiconductor markets expected to be $550 million ±$15 million. Revenue from our electronics and packaging market is expected to be $350 million ±$15 million. Revenue from our Specialty Industrial market is expected to be $300 million ±$10 million. Based on anticipated revenue levels and product mix, we estimate second quarter gross margin of 47% ±100 basis points. We expect second quarter operating expenses of $275 million ±$5 million. We estimate second quarter Adjusted EBITDA of $328 million ±$26 million.

Ram Mayampurath
Ram Mayampurath
EVP and CFO at MKS

CapEx for the year is expected to be in the range of 4%-5% of revenue. We expect a tax rate of approximately 20% in the second quarter and our full year tax rate to remain in the 18%-20% range. Based on these assumptions, we expect second quarter net earnings per diluted share of $2.90 ±$0.30. Wrapping up, we are very excited to see the growth opportunities ahead for MKS. We continue to execute at a high level, and we are in a strong position with our manufacturing capacity and capabilities. We've continued to strengthen our balance sheet with a clear and disciplined capital allocation strategy, and we remain focused on driving profitability, cash flow, and improving EPS to create value for our shareholders. Thank you for joining today.

Ram Mayampurath
Ram Mayampurath
EVP and CFO at MKS

With that, I'd like to turn the call back over to John.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

Thanks, Ram. We are pleased with the results this quarter and look forward to keeping you posted on our progress. On that note, I wanted to share that we are planning to host our next Investor Day on December 14th of this year in New York City. We're excited to share more about what we have built at MKS and our plans for the future. Stay tuned for more details. Now, operator, let's open the call for questions.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the question-and-answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please standby while we compile the Q&A roaster. Our first question comes from the line of James Ricchiuti of Needham & Company.

James Ricchiuti
James Ricchiuti
Analyst at Needham & Company

Thank you. Good morning. Just as we think about the semi business, wondering are you still I think last quarter, John, you were talking about the fact that you were shipping to demand in semi. Are you still doing that, or are you seeing the production ramp now that is more consistent with customers' plans to build inventory ahead of the stronger cycle we're seeing?

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

Hey, good morning, Jim. Thanks for the question. I would say this, you know, the best people to answer that is probably our customers, but they have been very clear about what they need for, you know, their quarters in terms of shipping for their revenue and also their desire to build inventory. I believe we are in a great position to meet that right now. I assume some of it is to build inventory at this point, Jim. You can see from our guidance that our supply chain has revved up and we're starting to accelerate our factory builds because our supply chain is delivering to us. I think in general, I think that is probably the case.

James Ricchiuti
James Ricchiuti
Analyst at Needham & Company

The E&P side, I think you alluded to strength in the laser drilling business as it contributed to the growth. I'm trying to reconcile the strength in that business because normally I associate it with smartphones, and I think right now we're seeing concerns about overall unit demand in light of memory prices. I'm wondering what might be driving that. Just more broadly, the E&P side of the business, can you give us any sense as to how the equipment pipeline looks in Q2 and beyond, just given the demand we're seeing and capacity adds from your customers? Thanks.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

That is a great question, Jim. There are two drivers. One is the advanced smartphone build, and that's really what's driving our flexible PCB drilling. You're correct there. The driver is the high-end smartphones, and that's why we're seeing the good strong demand in our flex drilling. The other is AI, of course, and that's driving the larger E&P market for us and our business for us, including chemistry equipment. We're seeing continued strength in chemistry equipment as well as continued strength in flexible PCB drilling.

James Ricchiuti
James Ricchiuti
Analyst at Needham & Company

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Steve Barger of KeyBanc. Your line is now open.

Steve Barger
Steve Barger
Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets

Hey, good morning, John. Great to see both sides of the business really pulling in a strong way. First question for me, we've talked a lot about the potential for NAND tool upgrades over the past two or three quarters. As everyone in the industry tries to ramp capacity across device types, can you talk about non-NAND opportunities for upgrades in front of new tool shipments?

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

Good morning, Steve. You're right. We did start seeing some of these NAND upgrades, as we called out on our prepared remarks. Regarding DRAM and logic foundry, I think most of that, our understanding is just greenfield. It's really for new tools for advanced DRAM and advanced logic, and foundry applications. Certainly there's some upgrades, I'm sure. You know, certainly our customers have said, their upgrade business continues, but certainly not at the rate it used to in the past couple years. We believe that most of what we're shipping now are for more advanced tools for the more advanced nodes for DRAM and logic foundry.

Steve Barger
Steve Barger
Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets

Got it. Thanks. Then on E&P, the front-end names and the chip makers are saying visibility in this cycle is the best it's ever been. Are you hearing that same message from PCB and substrate makers? You know, are they giving you longer forecasts than normal, and are you seeing formerly tier two and tier three players trying to move upstream to get into more complex substrates?

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

I would say in general that's true, Steve. We can say that because of the strength of our chemistry equipment orders. That is really a great indicator of the visibility that our customers are seeing, their plans for meeting that visibility. Last quarter we said the equipment, chemistry equipment continued to be strong in bookings, and we can say that this quarter that is still the case. Given that, I think, we would agree that the visibility that our customers and PCBs are seeing is giving them confidence to order this equipment from us.

Steve Barger
Steve Barger
Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets

That's great. I appreciate it.

Operator

Thank you.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

Thanks, Steve.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Melissa Weathers of Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open.

Melissa Weathers
Melissa Weathers
Analyst at Deutsche Bank

Hi there. Thanks for letting me ask a question, congrats on some really nice results here. I wanted to ask on the supply side of things, I think if we track the number of fabs that are expected to come on, whether it's logic or foundry or DRAM, over the next two years, like we're seeing some pretty massive WFE numbers. As you think about your ability to supply, just any color that you have on how much WFE you can serve. I know you have the Malaysia factory coming online very soon too. Can you just talk about any kind of supply side metrics that we should understand that can help us frame the next couple years as these fabs come online?

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

Good morning, Melissa. That's a great question. Let me break it down to kind of a near term, like 2026, you know, where WFE estimates are in that $140 billion range. We can meet that. We had already put in capacity, as we said maybe a couple of years ago, for $125 billion WFE with a 25%-30% surge. We are fine for 2026 in terms of our capacity, and we believe our supply chain is more robust as well to support that. Having said that, we have already started plans and ordering equipment to expand that capacity for 2027 to meet the 2027 needs, which is in that $170 billion-$180 billion WFE.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

In order to do that, we do not need any more new buildings. We have enough buildings, especially with Malaysia coming online. Beyond that, of course, you know, we'll have to see whether we need to continue expanding there, but we're ready to do that as well.

Melissa Weathers
Melissa Weathers
Analyst at Deutsche Bank

Great to hear. Then for my second question, I wanted to touch on the AI side of things and some of these next gen AI processors. I think there was a story a couple weeks back with some concerns on warpage and how existing packages are kind of struggling to hold all the HBM and all the GPUs on top of them. I guess as we think about next gen packaging architectures, can you talk about the trends that you guys are seeing, where you see the, like, direction of travel going over the next few years and what that could mean for your E&P business? That'd be helpful.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

Sure. Yes. You're right. There's a lot more chips on top. The boards for AI are getting bigger, and there are more layers. All those things would drive, you know, potential warpage of the boards. The whole industry is working on these kinds of technical problems. A couple of ways to solve it is of course, glass cores. That's a big topic right now. Today, though, most people are still using just regular non-glass cores and making them thicker. They're working on making sure that the bonding between the various layers of the boards is stronger. That's an area of opportunity for them 'cause we are one of the market leaders in the chemistry needed to bond layers to each other. We don't talk about that too much.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

We usually talk about plating and putting the copper lines in, but obviously bonding the layers together is also something difficult and also a big contributor to yield. We like our position there. We like some of the products we're offering there. You're right, these are all the kinds of technical problems one would expect, but every time there's a technical problem, it's also an opportunity, and we at MKS certainly love those opportunities.

Melissa Weathers
Melissa Weathers
Analyst at Deutsche Bank

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Prisco of Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is now open.

Matthew Prisco
Matthew Prisco
Analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. I guess starting on the semi side, how have customer conversations kind of evolved over the past 90 days? You know, where are you seeing the greatest change? What are you seeing in terms of visibility? Maybe how are you thinking about your ability and the magnitude at which you can outgrow WFE at this point in the cycle?

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

Thanks for the question, Matt. You know, certainly our communications with our customers have continued to be, you know, very close. And of course, they have communicated their needs very clearly for us. I don't think there's any change in that. I think we are always going to be knowledgeable about their needs going forward. I would say MKS has demonstrated historically the ability to outgrow WFE, certainly during a ramp, and it's really obviously because we have to be shipping our stuff first before our customers can ship theirs. Then to James Ricchiuti's earlier question, our customers are gonna wanna build inventory as well. I think I've talked about the fact that, you know, the industry thinks that this cycle is going to be a lot longer than maybe previous cycles.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

That drives us to build inventory even more. It drives our customers to build in-inventory even more. You know, if it's a two-year cycle or 2.5 Years and beyond, then we have to kind of run through the tape at the end of 2026.

Matthew Prisco
Matthew Prisco
Analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald

Actually, that's helpful. Shifting to the gross margin side, can you walk us through the primary drivers of the better than expected results? Into 2Q, I would think you get better seasonality out of chemistry, which is a higher margin business and all that. Kind of why is that flat quarter-over-quarter then? Just how do we think about the leverage through the year and any change in that long-term fall through as the kind of business evolves with AI-related dynamics? Thanks.

Ram Mayampurath
Ram Mayampurath
EVP and CFO at MKS

Hi, Matt. I'll take that. We're very happy with the gross margin performance in Q1. As you can see, with the right cost structure, when the top line came back, we are seeing the 50% conversion. Volume certainly helped us in Q1 and continued to help us in Q2. Operational excellence programs will continue to work on the product cost. For the Q2 guide, we are also taking into account, mix, primarily, the growth in equipment and the VSD business. The VSD business, as you know, is ramping, and the gross margin there is slightly below the corporate average. The op income on VSD is great. The gross margin is slightly below the corporate average. We are also taking into account, inflation on certain key raw material like palladium.

Ram Mayampurath
Ram Mayampurath
EVP and CFO at MKS

All that included, we are guiding 47 ±100 basis points. Overall, a 50% conversion is a good proxy to use on incremental sales.

Matthew Prisco
Matthew Prisco
Analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Shane Brett of Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open

Shane Brett
Shane Brett
Analyst at Morgan Stanley

Thank you for letting me ask a question. My first question is just how should we think about the consumer electronics exposure in your E&P chemistry business? Just how are you thinking about the second half relative to the first half? I'm asking this because my worry is that there may have been some pull-ins on the consumer electronics side, but please tell me if otherwise. Thank you.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

Yeah. Thanks for the question, Shane. I would say this, there's two dynamics for the second half in our E&P business. One is AI, which is a great tailwind. The other is potentially a consumer electronics kind of going through its cycle seasonality, also as we, the industry has talked about, potentially fewer units because of the cost of memory. We are more levered to high-end smartphones, let's say, PCs as well. We are market leader, we do have chemistry in the entire market. I think I've said in the past, if the consumer products go down, you know, single digit % in terms of units, you know, AI will be more than enough to make up for that, and then some.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

Of course, if it goes down even more, we'll see some of that. I think, from a modeling perspective, you know, we know that AI will allow us to outgrow, in the second half, if you will, the rest of 2026. You wanna add a little bit of that consumer products mix in there to meet the model a little bit.

Shane Brett
Shane Brett
Analyst at Morgan Stanley

Got it. Thank you. For my follow-up, Newport's ULTRAlign seems to have caught a bit of attention as it's part of the kind of CPO test supply chain, but can you give us some color around your fiber alignment stage business? I'm not sure if it's segmented into semi or E&P, but can that shift the needle for you in 2026 or 2027? Thank you.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

Shane, I think you meant the datacom business. If that's what you meant, then certainly that's been a great grower. It is in our specialty industrials category as of today, but it is driven by AI. Our optical to electronic converting conversion product line helps test makers to build test stations to test datacom. Of course, that is a great market right now. It is still a relatively small part of our business, but it's been growing quite nicely to the point where it's actually helped our, you know, our just entire specialty industrials market grow a little bit quarter-on-quarter. We're really happy with that business and how it's growing.

Shane Brett
Shane Brett
Analyst at Morgan Stanley

Got it. Thank you.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

Thanks, Shane.

Operator

Of Citi, your line is now open.

Analyst

Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I guess my first question is, can you just talk about updating your chemistry part of the business? There could be some softness in the smartphone consumer electronics related market and the AI is going strong. Just wondering, last year, you talked about AI is maybe 10% of your chemistry portfolio. I'm just wondering like this year, how big of AI is expected within your chemistry?

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

Good morning, Elizabeth. Yes, it's a good question. I think last year we said it was about 10% on average for the year, but it was a quarter-on-quarter-on-quarter growth. Coming out of probably the end of 2025, it was on the higher end of, you know, maybe closer to 15%. We're kind of expecting that range right now. That's what we're seeing right now. Of course, it just depends on if, how fast AI grows and the chemistry that goes with it, and potentially how much consumer products might go down, if at all. I think in that 15% range is the right way to think about our chemistry revenue, our AI part of our chemistry revenue.

Analyst

Got it. Thanks. Just follow up on the gross margin side. The last time you talk about your goal is to get gross margin to 47%, since you are already at it and you're guiding Q2 at 47% as well. Just wondering, like, what is kind of the updated goal of gross margin maybe this year and going into next year?

Ram Mayampurath
Ram Mayampurath
EVP and CFO at MKS

Yeah. Hi, Elizabeth. Actually our goal was 47%+. We are still yet to get to that plus factor. That'll be our primary objective to continue to stabilize a 47%+ number. There are ongoing programs to improve gross margin, both from a manufacturing excellence, procurement, and from design improvement side, and volume will help. Not that there aren't any headwinds, there are headwinds from inflation and other possibilities, we will continue to work on driving it forward. You'll get more color on the Investor Day.

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Mani of Bank of America. Your line is now open.

Michael Mani
Michael Mani
Analyst at Bank of America

Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. First on the semi market, if you look at the company's history, with the semi market's growth relative to WFE, I think it's been around 200 basis points from a CAGR work perspective in terms of outperformance. In years when WFE is really ramping, your performance in semi market is actually quite remarkable and outgrows the industry significantly. With that being said, when you look at like the next couple of years, there seems like a lot of great tailwinds that work in MKS's favor, right? A lot of that etch and dep intensive inflections, more verticalization. If we get NAND greenfields on top, next year, that's icing on top.

Michael Mani
Michael Mani
Analyst at Bank of America

Also some new inflections potentially like, you know, 4F-squared DRAM, which also could be great for you. I guess when you compare this coming up cycle and your opportunity set versus prior ones, I mean, what gets you more excited? Like, would you say like the ability to outperform year relative to other cycles could be greater and greater for longer? Thank you.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

Good morning, Michael. That's a great question. I think the way we think about it is certainly historically, we've shown that we can really outperform during that upcycle when there's a lot of deep, etch. That's been historically our strongest part of the semi market, and it's also the one that goes up and down the most in terms of amplitude. I think in the past, we've done that, but we've done it even more sometime when there was a NAND component to it because of our exposure and our power. This time there may be some NAND, may not be in terms of upgrade versus greenfield. Kind of wanna put that into perspective.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

I think, relative to previous cycles, we are now much broader based, a broader base supplier in semi in terms of the fact that we're supplying lithography, metrology, and inspection markets, and those don't swing as much. Certainly in a ramp, we would have the same kind of dynamic. We'd have to ship more of our stuff before our customers could ship more of theirs. The swings aren't as much. I think that's one other factor to take into account. The third one is, of course, in the past cycles, you know, we were able to ship to many Chinese equipment OEMs, where that business is certainly much less now, and they're a bigger part of WFE. The denominator is a little bigger because of their contribution.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

I think those are the puts and takes, but in general, when dep accelerates, we do a lot better.

Michael Mani
Michael Mani
Analyst at Bank of America

Very helpful. Thank you. For my follow-up on E&P, are there certain customers within the PC maker base that we should think of MKS as more levered to or not, given that, I mean, they're all spending or hiking their CapEx plans significantly. Is there leverage to any particular type of player or one supplier in the market? More specifically, you know, you've noted, you know, very strong share overall, especially in flex PCB drilling and chemistry. In your electroplating business, I think, maybe in the past that's where the company's been a little underindexed, but maybe there's been more focus on share gain progress there. Is that, how do you feel about share gains there over the next couple years?

Michael Mani
Michael Mani
Analyst at Bank of America

Like, what are you doing to kind of, maximize, the progress there? Thank you.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

Yeah, it's a good question, Michael. I would say this, you know, the top 30 PCB makers are all our customers, and we have very good position in all of them. I would say that some of them are investing more heavily than others. I wouldn't say, though, that there was a trend that only the most advanced ones are investing versus maybe people trying to catch up. It's kind of across the board. I wouldn't say there was any particular customer that was going to, you know, be more indexed for us. Now, over time, there could be consolidation, et cetera, but right now, I think it's broadly the industry that's driving the entire growth of our equipment for chemistry as well as our chemistry revenue.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

Regarding, you know, market share, you know, as we have said many times, we address 70% of all the steps in PCB manufacturing. Overall, we have the highest market share. However, you're right, we don't have the highest market share in every one of those various steps. There are areas where we could do better, and those are opportunities for us. I think that, you know, how do we gain share? Our strategy has always been being the broadest portfolio provider allows us to see inflections faster, as well as allows us to solve the problems therefore faster for our customers. Really, that's the opportunity to gain share, whether it's in a particular step where we don't have much share or in a step where we do have strength, but to continue growing that share.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

I think that's been our strategy and, but you're right, there are still opportunities to grow.

Michael Mani
Michael Mani
Analyst at Bank of America

Great. Thank you, John.

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

Thanks, Michael.

Operator

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David Lu
David Lu
Analyst at Mizuho

Hi. Yeah, thanks for taking the question. I'm from Vijay here. Congratulations on the great guide. Maybe a quick modeling one. What was the tariff impact on your June quarter guide, and how much is expected the rest of the year?

Ram Mayampurath
Ram Mayampurath
EVP and CFO at MKS

We have neutralized the tariff cost dollar for dollar, as we reported earlier. We are still seeing a little bit of a gross margin impact from the passthrough, and we continue to see about 30 basis points to 40 basis points of impact, and that's included in the Q2 guide.

David Lu
David Lu
Analyst at Mizuho

Okay, got it. You guys mentioned LEO rigid PCB opportunity. Can you guys maybe size the opportunity, the MKSI content there and maybe how much growth you see going forward?

John Lee
John Lee
President and CEO at MKS

Yeah, David, I'll take that one. The LEO market is certainly something that's actually growing very quickly. We were designed in as a, you know, process tool of record for laser drilling. Several years ago, we talked about it, and we continue to maintain that process tool of record. As that market grows, we are benefiting from it. You know, it's a pretty healthy growth rate for us. You know, LEO market is, you know, a subset of the entire rigid PCB market. As you probably read, the LEO market, more and more people are getting into it. It makes sense from a, you know, telecommunications standpoint. We're just really excited about being, you know, the process tool record in that growing market.

David Lu
David Lu
Analyst at Mizuho

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you.

David Lu
David Lu
Analyst at Mizuho

Thank you.

Operator

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Paretosh Misra
Paretosh Misra
VP of Investor Relations at MKS

Thank you all for joining us today and for your interest in MKS. Operator, you may close the call, please.

Operator

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Executives
    • John Lee
      John Lee
      President and CEO
    • Paretosh Misra
      Paretosh Misra
      VP of Investor Relations
    • Ram Mayampurath
      Ram Mayampurath
      EVP and CFO
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