LON:INF Informa H1 2026 Earnings Report GBX 913.80 +5.98 (+0.66%) As of 12:13 PM Eastern ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Informa EPS ResultsActual EPSGBX 26.70Consensus EPS N/ABeat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/AInforma Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AInforma Announcement DetailsQuarterH1 2026Date7/30/2026TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateThursday, July 30, 2026Conference Call Time4:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckInterim ReportEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Informa H1 2026 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJuly 30, 2026 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: Underlying revenue grew 6.8% in the first half, with profit growth slightly ahead of revenue despite the loss of Middle East revenue; management reaffirmed full-year guidance, expects a slightly higher full-year margin, and increased both the share buyback and interim dividend. Positive Sentiment: B2B live events delivered 8% growth, with broad geographic strength and expected acceleration in the second half. Management is targeting at least 7% growth for the full year, supported by pricing, new launches, geographic expansion, ticketing, and greater use of customer data. Negative Sentiment: Middle East disruption has caused revenue deferrals and the postponement of some 2026 launches, particularly because international exhibitors face travel and logistics constraints. Informa is retaining its regional cost base and expects to roll some business into 2027, creating execution and near-term earnings risk. Positive Sentiment: Taylor & Francis continued to improve, posting slightly more than 5% underlying growth and progressing toward management’s goal of becoming a reliable 5%+ growth business by 2027. The company is investing in international sales, corporate and “prosumer” customers, digital platforms, and AI-enabled processing while maintaining content quality. Negative Sentiment: Informa TechTarget remains below expectations, with revenue down 1% amid AI-related displacement, weakness in the U.S. enterprise technology market, and integration complexity. Management estimates a potential revenue gap of roughly $30 million–$50 million and is focused on returning the business to growth before 2027. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallInforma H1 202600:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:00:00Good morning, everybody. For those who are here today, thanks very much for joining in person. For those who are on the live stream, welcome to our half-year results, which we announced this morning, hopefully, some people have had a chance to read it. I'm going to give a quick canter through an update and then try and use most of the time for questions, if we could. Just to kind of step out to step in, this is designed just to remind us why we're in the markets we're in. These are the two markets we operate in as a business, B2B live events and specialist knowledge. I just wanted to pick out two points on both as to why these are good markets with good macro conditions and forward runway. On live events, there's absolutely no doubt at all that specialist market categories are in growth. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:00:52You'll see it later if you just stop and look at our portfolio. We're servicing at-scale markets that 10, 15 years ago, when I started trying to do this for a living, didn't really exist as markets. That methodization of market categories and extended supply chains provides us with significant forward growth potential. The other side, which maybe we didn't predict so much but really is coming home to roost, is the power of live. For those of us who did watch the World Cup with enthusiasm, live events in sport and entertainment, in music, and in business are having more and more traction, more and more value, and more and more uniqueness. Lots of reasons for that. We can get into it, but there's absolutely no doubt that live is a great market to be in. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:01:37On specialist knowledge, trust, and trusted content, the more knowledge that's available, the more important finding trusted content is. Beyond trust, the thing that really matters is verification and authority. There's endless information supply. The question is, which information are you going to pay attention to, and which information comes with validation and authentication? If you're in both of those markets, we've chosen to hang out in two pretty good neighborhoods. So, how good is the house? If we're in two good neighborhoods, how good is our house? Well, we think our house is pretty good. I think you see it in our numbers today. If you wanted a single word to sum up our performance today, I would say it's a living demonstration of resilience. There are many bricks in the wall that give us resilience as a business. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:02:33We have a brand portfolio, which I'm going to come back to, which is certainly in the markets we're in pretty close to unique. We are genuinely an international business. We operate at some version of reasonable scale in about 26 countries around the world. If you operate in the world, you know there is volatility. Much discussion, for understandable reasons, about the volatility in the Middle East, and in particular in how that impacts one country in the Middle East. But there are many countries in the world, and certainly in most years in which I've been doing this, there's volatility somewhere in the world. So breadth really matters. If you're going to have a portfolio, try and have leading positions. That makes a big difference. It gives you a competitive advantage. Then most of all, the increasing importance of audience. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:03:15We started out as a space business. We're migrating to becoming an audience business. To be an audience business, you really need data. Our investment in data and understanding what our customers are doing, what our buyers are doing, what our sellers are doing, is really allowing us the opportunity to bring additional products and services to our customers. Many years back, we wrote down, after an intensive internal work exercise, three words that we thought would summarize what it is we do. Champion the specialist. It's not quite putting a man on the moon, but nevertheless, it sums up the essence of what we do. Specialism is a fantastic set of markets to be in. Generalism is a bit out of fashion. Specialism is highly in fashion. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:04:07If you can be a mile deep rather than a mile wide, you can build moats and boundaries around what you do, and that gives you both advantage and protection. That really has been a very strong North Star for us over the period. This is the shape of the business that we now are. We are predominantly now a B2B business. That wasn't the case back in the day. We still have a very significant position in the academic markets business and a growing position in B2B digital services. Geographically, we are, in absolute terms, nearly 50% an Americas business. I've just come back from spending a chunk of time in the Americas, and the American economy right now is basically pretty strong. We've built our position in Asia. We've built our position in Europe. We've built our position in EMEA. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:05:00As a net consequence, our position in the United Kingdom is becoming an increasingly de minimis part of the group. Our market vertical position has expanded to my earlier point as markets have arrived or we've decided to go into different markets. I often say to potential investors in the company, it's often worth looking not at the markets that we do serve, but the markets that we don't serve. Because generally, we've tried to focus on industry verticals that provide, for us, the fertile ground where we think we can be the best version of ourselves, particularly in B2B. Large markets, international markets, high margin end markets, very extended supply chains, diversified supply, and if you get that lined up, that makes our product really very attractive. This is just a great slide if you do what we do for a living. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:05:59There are only five brands on there that we owned when we started out on this journey as a company. If I went through each of those five, Anti-Aging today is 12x what it was back then. SuperReturn today is 22x. In revenue what it was back then. The Monaco Yacht Show is 3x what it was back then. Middle East Energy is 2.5x what it was back then. The other 45 weren't brands that either existed in some cases or were ours in some cases. This is an absolutely world-class portfolio of brands, markets, categories, and geographic positions, and provides us with a real position both in the ability to retain and attract customers, but also to retain and attract clients. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:06:53You look here in the half year, if you just take these brands that have run in the first half of the year, Cannes Lions, which some of you were at, WHX, which some of you were at, Natural Products Expo, which some of you were at, Money20/20 in Europe, which some of you were at, CPHI in China, which I suspect few of you were at, London Tech Week, actually, which has been a lovely brand that we bought out of administration and turned into a real thing, and SuperReturn, which literally lived up to its name. It was super, and the returns were okay. If you added that up, that's nearly GBP 1 billion of revenue just in those brands alone. The franchises that they afford us around the world is really quite something. That's what adds up to our half-year performance. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:07:43I think we're pleased with where we are. It's been a volatile six months in 2026. If someone had told me in late March, early April, this is where we'd be at the half year, I'd have more than taken it. 6.8% underlying revenue growth. Our profit's slightly ahead of our underlying growth, which is really quite an achievement because we've had no revenues in the Middle East, and that really speaks to the underlying gearing in the business in the first half. We've had strong performances in both our main businesses, live events and in academic markets. You can see the cost of running all of our businesses in the Middle East with virtually no revenue since March in the profit comparison on the reported numbers where we're slightly behind where we were this time last year. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:08:32Actually, if you just flick those numbers, then our underlying profit this year would've been nearly 10% at the half year rather than 6.9%, but still a very robust performance given where we are. We've got very good full-year visibility through to the end of the year. Our balance sheet is in good order. We're reaffirming our guidance. On shareholder returns, we've taken our buyback up again for this year. We still believe our shares afford a good return, and therefore we're happy to be a willing buyer, and we've increased the interim dividend in line with our performance at the half year for our dividend-orientated shareholders. In B2B live events, 8% growth in the half year in aggregate varies a bit depending on where you are by geography, by category, by brand, but very strong performance. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:09:27The strength has been pretty universal actually if you look at it through a geographic lens. It varies more by some individual categories, which maybe we'll get into in questions. The second half matters to us and actually in a good way. We see that accelerating in the second half, which will be helpful because it'll take us strongly into the beginning of 2027. Net, we enter the second half of the year in live events feeling good about what we're doing. As those colleagues on the live stream or in the room will know, this stairway to heaven for our B2B business is really just how we're knife and forking our way through our planning, our approach to brand development, and market position. Price for value, look at the markets we serve, see what level of penetration we have got and how much more we can get. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:10:19Look at what we can do in geo expansion, whether it's brand expansion or syndication or doing more with global cities, which really is becoming quite a power lever for us as a company. Taking advantage of capacity and supply where it's coming into markets, which it is. Really driving value into attendees. That was a Rubicon, which 10 years ago no one was crossing. You can charge people to participate in a B2B event. Ticketing didn't feature, now it does. There's more value you can bring to your attendees if you've got the data and you understand your audience. What more can you do around an event to blow out and glam up the reality of being a participant, an exhibitor, or a sponsor? There are routes to revenue. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:11:04We're not doing them all of the time, every day, in every brand, in every country, for every customer. The good news is we're not doing that yet, that doesn't mean we can't tomorrow. There's a real opportunity for further expansion. Geographically, we're pretty much everywhere we'd want to be. We've got no need or desire to buy another business to give us a platform to operate geographically. Now in M&A we're focused on category and market vertical expansion or brand expansion. I think that is serving us well. My clicker. Sorry. Just to double click on what's actually happening in the B2B market given what's going on in the Middle East, because this will be a question, please take this as your answer. I might refer you to see slide 11. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:12:03First of all, as you can see in our numbers, what do you do? You make everything else work harder. You seek to deliver outperformance in other markets, and you can see us doing that. Secondly, you see what you can do in terms of performance in those markets with domestic brands and with intra-regional participation. Where we are seeing participation leakage, it's not local or intra-regional, it's international. Can you swap out local and intra-regional for international? Thirdly, double down on future business return through not doing what some people are doing, which is reduce your headcount, reduce your costs, exit the market, remove your brands, and run for the hills. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:12:55That might serve you well for a month or a quarter, it doesn't serve you too well for three years or five years, and we're building this business for the long term. Fourthly, defend the long-term value of the brands. I say all the time to shareholders, "This is an annuity business." We do this well, we do this right. You're looking at a business that will recur for 5 years, for 10 years, for 15 years, for 20 years. That's where the real long-term value is. To do that, you need to look after your brands and how they're judged, and within that, your customers. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:13:26As a practical matter, that means being very close to your customers and where needed, provide them with contract flexibility or rollover options, or future credits, in order to not feel that they're being strong-armed to participate if it doesn't suit their commercial position. That's our approach. It's serving us pretty well. Then on top of that, we're using our relationships and our market position to reschedule the brands. I think the battery's a bit dead in this. To reschedule the brands from the first half to the second half. This gives you a sense. There are about 65 events that we're going to run in the region. The other thing I would say when people say to me, "What's going on in the region?" The region is a big place. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:14:13What's happening in India is completely different from what's happening in Egypt, which is completely different from what's happening in Nigeria, which is completely different what's happening in the U.A.E. You've really got to forensically unpeel that onion. We've got about 65 events that are running in region in the second half, and there are about seven of those that are scale events that are running in what you might call the more directly impacted markets. Just to give you a bit of a flavor. The first two events off the taxi rank for us in the second half of the year in region are Middle East Energy in Dubai at the beginning of September, and almost exactly coterminously, our future technology event, LEAP, in Riyadh. Both of those are in market and trading as we speak. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:15:05To switch into academic markets, this has really been the second or third improving quarter in a row or half in a row. Penny and the team are really getting into their stride. Strong underlying growth in the first year, just over 5%. Some of that's phasing, some of that's pre-booking. Some of that is a function of some things that will not recur. The underlying shift in this business is this has gone from being a 1%-2% growth business to being, hopefully, a 4%+ growth business. I'm pretty confident that we can get this to our 5% minimum threshold by 2026. Sorry, by 2027. We're investing in this business. We see an increasing demand for trusted content. As I said in the opening, validated, authenticated content. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:15:52We're investing in international sales because we think here we can do more in geo expansion, a bit like we did in B2B, we were a little bit cautious in academics, we think there's an upside there. We think we can do better in some underserved and unserved market segments, as described here, corporate and prosumer. It's one of those words that probably won't make it into popular language. Nevertheless, it's a segment that we can serve and we can serve well given the nature of our content. We're also investing in our own platform capability to make it easier for customers to discover, to use, to share, and to work with our content. The ambition for this business we've laid out very clearly. This is where we were, this is where we are, this is where we're going. Those are the building blocks. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:16:41Underpinning it is turning this business into a knowledge platform that allows us to demonstrate progress in each of these areas. More volumes, more product, a focus on more markets and not just the librarian, but adding customers and market segments, making it easier for people through technology capabilities to discover and use. To maybe reshape the culture a bit. The culture is very strong inside Taylor & Francis, but making it a bit more customer-focused, a bit more market-focused, a bit more commercial, and at the same time simplifying how we operate, and being a bit more commercial on cost management, vendor consolidation, and the input side of the business. All of that discipline is adding up to a consistently better performance, and that alongside what we're doing in our B2B markets business is really what gives us our half-year number. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:17:38Our latest venture, our newest venture, Informa TechTarget, shades of British Rail, for those of you as old as I am, it's getting there. This is not yet doing what we wanted it to do when we acquired this business or created this business. Lots of reasons for that. Some of it to do with AI displacement revenues, some of it to do with the challenges facing the U.S. enterprise technology market, some of it to do, frankly, with us getting it in the way of our own knitting, and some of it to do with the complexity of a multilayered combination. Put all of that in the operational blender, you end up at -1% rather than +6%. That differential in revenue terms actually is about $30 million-$50 million of revenue. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:18:21It's not a mountain that we can't climb, but it's $30 million-$50 million of revenue that's in the wrong place. The growth rates are leveling out, or the negative growth rates are leveling out. We've got a simple target for this year, get it into growth, then we're planning how we get into 2027 and get this business to begin to do what it was designed to do. Do we think the fundamentals are still there? We do. What we need to do is get to a point whereby that's visible enough to shareholders for us to regain their confidence in our judgment in that market. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:18:54Underpinning it all, this is probably the most important thing going on inside the company at the moment. The good thing about it is it was going on inside the company last year, it's going on inside the company this year, it'll be going on inside the company next year, and the year after. If you go back to my brand slide, if the battery's now working, which it is. You go from three or four brands to 500 brands at pace, as I often used to say to people who were considering joining our company, particularly in senior roles and particularly in technology and system roles, I make no apology for the fact that as a business, we learned to run before we could walk. When you do that, what you find is that your back office is not as robust as your front office. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:19:41That's the price you pay for accelerated acquisition-led growth. The question is, how do you then reverse engineer the back office and the platforms to enable you to get even more out of the front office than you're getting just from a sales and commercial-led business? That's really a large part of what's behind One Informa. What do we do in order to provide platform capability, system capability, horizontal capability in everything from data discovery, data capture, data usage, new product development, marketing platforms, sales platforms, brand development, and more recently, how do we use AI to accelerate that? Which actually for us is probably a net benefit because one of the only advantages of being late, is that technology then comes along and allows you to do it cheaper, quicker, better. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:20:31If we do that, and we bring those AI-empowered enhancements to our operations, One Informa will give us a better bedrock to further enhance the front office performance. In summary, this is where we are. The One Informa program continues at pace. It's putting stability and performance and maturity and capability into the hands of teams at a time, brands at a time, geographies at a time. We are keeping a weather eye on our top line because absent growth, nothing happens. We set ourselves a threshold of never drop below 5%, and we're knocking that out quarter-on-quarter, half-on-half. We still think our shares are not at a point whereby they represent an appropriate value equation, and therefore we're a happy buyer, hence the increase in the buyback. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:21:19Our B2B live events business is our biggest engine, it needs to grow at the fastest rate. The market's growing at about 5%-5.5%. We're the biggest player. We need to beat that. We're targeting ourselves 7%+ for the year. We did 8% at the half year. We want T&F to be a reliable 5%+ growth business, so it's not a drag on our growth ambition. It's getting there. TechTarget, I've talked about. We need to make that a growth business because you get the benefit of the operational gearing. All of that flows through to EPS growth, which we want to see continue coming for our shareholders. Looking forward, what do you see? In 2026, we can see about 85% of our revenue. That means we can all focus on the 15%, which shouldn't be too difficult. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:22:04Our subscription revenues in academic are way ahead of where they normally were. That's part of the operating discipline that Penny and the team have brought. Looking into 2027, we can already see about GBP 800 million of our 2027 revenues, which is a nice position to be in as we begin to plan for 2027. For those of you who follow the company and have done for a long time, you'll know that uneven years are bigger years for us than even years because of the return of our biennials, which are all conveniently in uneven years. The biennials, not surprisingly, tend to be higher growth businesses, partly because they only happen every two years, so the level of pent-up demand is a bit higher. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:22:47You don't just get a cash lift, you also bring into the portfolio big brands that tend to perform at a slightly higher growth pace performance. We're always keen to meet our investors, so we did a field trip to the NRA show in May, which I was not at, but apparently was a really outstanding brand and performance, and gave a real insight, I think, how for many big food brands, household food brands, it brought to life the power of a trade show at scale in a key market. For those of you who have never been to a CPHI event, that really is well worth the time. Milan isn't so tricky to get to. It's, I think I'm correct in saying, our single biggest brand. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:23:39It is the meeting place for that industry, which right now is a real feature of innovation and new product. It's a really great way to see what we do live. That's where we are. We'll throw it open to questions. Who would like to go first? We could run an auction. We'll take questions in the room first, and I think we'll start over here on the far side, if you don't mind. The lady in white, as Chris de Burgh didn't sing. Annick MaasAnalyst at Bernstein00:24:15Good morning, Annick Maas from Bernstein. I think my three questions are for Gareth. Sorry. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:24:20Fantastic. I can sit down. Gareth. Gareth WrightGroup Finance Director at Informa00:24:23Okay. That's a bad start. Annick MaasAnalyst at Bernstein00:24:24The first one is on T&F and the Anthropic court case that was settled with publishers. I think, depending on the assumptions you take, you will benefit from GBP 25 million-GBP 50 million. I was wondering if you could just give us an idea of where in that range we will be and how it will be accounted for. I have other questions as well. Gareth WrightGroup Finance Director at Informa00:24:45I think what we would say is we're still working through that. There are various variables in the numbers in terms of what titles are in there, what are the costs, et cetera. We're working through that. We deliberately haven't put a number in this deck or these results for that reason. We'll update you in the second half of the year as the number becomes clearer. I suspect there will be a number in our second half results for the settlement. We're working through the accounting, I think at the moment, I don't think it'll be revenue. I think it's a settlement number, so it won't change our full-year revenue outlook for Taylor & Francis. As Stephen has mentioned, we're confident about an improving performance in the business on a full-year basis in 2026 versus a full-year basis in 2025, regardless of that. Annick MaasAnalyst at Bernstein00:25:42Great. Thank you. The rest is for B2B markets. I understand you're still negotiating with some exhibitors that were due to attend this year, and they now want to maybe switch to next year. If all of those decide to not stay in this year and move into next, and vice versa, if they all go, does that mean you have revenue upside or downside to your guidance for this year? Gareth WrightGroup Finance Director at Informa00:26:06We've accounted for what we know of at the moment in terms of our potential revenue deferrals. I mean, you're right. There is some revenue deferral from existing customers. There's some revenue deferral for launches that we had planned to make in 2026 that we're now not going to launch in 2026. We'll do those in 2027. On the other hand, we're also still working hard to identify opportunities, and there are one or two opportunities to do targeted in-country launches in the second half of 2026 that we're looking at, both in the UAE and in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, that we think could come to fruition. We're still working hard to maximize the 2026 revenue outcome. We've accounted for what we know and what's visible in the fact that we can meet guidance at the moment. Annick MaasAnalyst at Bernstein00:26:55Okay. My last one is easy. China, you mentioned it in the release. Does that mean that China is now growing? Gareth WrightGroup Finance Director at Informa00:27:04China's performing as we thought it would at the start of the year. We never needed a big uptick in the performance in China to get to the guidance for the full year, and it's pretty much performing in line with those projections. The bull case on China would be a lot of the trading is in the second half of the year, so it's still to come. Therefore, we'll hope for a better outcome, but we don't need a better outcome. It's in growth, but relatively low levels of growth, lower than it's done historically, as in going back a couple of years, but consistent with where it was, say, in 2025. Annick MaasAnalyst at Bernstein00:27:41Thank you. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:27:45Oh, you've got the mic. James TateAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:27:47Thank you. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:27:47Possession is nine-tenths of the law. James TateAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:27:49Exactly. Thank you. It's James Tate from Goldman Sachs. Just a couple of questions, please. I guess, firstly, on the Middle East, as we start to think about 2027, could you just talk about forward bookings for the shows scheduled through 2027? How are they looking now versus historically at this sort of stage of the year? Just to follow up on that, I guess there's a lot of variation by show, but how are forward bookings for the shows running this year tracking into H2? Is around 10% down a fair assumption or some tracking better? I guess secondly, could you just comment on the level of pricing growth you're putting through this year for 2027 events? It's around 3%-4% on average, about the right ballpark. Thank you. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:28:33Everywhere or in the Middle East? James TateAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:28:35Everywhere. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:28:37Yeah, probably, maybe a bit less, depends, because China is not really a price-led market. If you took everywhere, the number might be nearer two to three than three to four, but it might vary depending on where you are in the world, if you're just talking about space pricing, which I think you are. Forward pacing for 2027, pretty good. You see that in our forward booking number. It's pretty similar. I don't know, Richard, 800 versus this time last year. It's just for H1. Yeah. It's up I think it's slightly ahead of where we were this time last year. James TateAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:29:14For the Middle East in particular? Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:29:16I don't know, to be honest. I don't, there's no significant variance number that's sort of flashing in my mind, I don't think that's an issue (yet), not a visible one. What was your other question? James TateAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:29:33The Middle East shows that are running in H2, how do you expect them to run versus last year in terms of revenues? Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:29:40Look, that is such a difficult question to answer without turning this presentation into an operating review brand by brand and country by country, because what's going to happen in India is going to be totally different than what happens in the UAE to what happens in the KSA to what happens in another country. Within that, to the point Gareth made, we've got an event coming in Abu Dhabi, I think on the 29th of September, LIVEX, which is a kind of investment livability summit. I think we've got 20,000 attendees registered, about 50 exhibitors. Last time I looked at it, we've got 50 country participants. That is going to have a completely different profile of attendees than Middle East Energy, which has got a bigger international profile. There the decline rate is probably higher. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:30:35Saudi Arabia, I have a strong confidence will be pretty robust year-on-year. It varies really by geography and by brand. In the round, I think what we're really trying to communicate today is, based on what we know today, we can see a way of navigating it through a combination of all the things I said on slide 11, which is you outperform where you can in other markets, you bring new product to market, which might be a bit more domestically focused, which might compensate for some of your rollover. You roll over into 2027, which actually should help our 2027 numbers, where you need to. Net, that should end up being an outcome we can all live with. James TateAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:31:15Thank you. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:31:17Two questions. Given you have the mic, we could just keep passing it down this side. Will LarwoodAnalyst at Berenberg00:31:22Thanks. Will Larwood from Berenberg. Just firstly, in terms of are you seeing any sort of delays to supply coming online, particularly in the Middle East? I know that was a key point that we spoke about at the CMD. Secondly, you call out looking at further licensing deals for data in Taylor & Francis. Just wondering if you could provide some more color there, particularly what you're seeing in regards to pricing. Finally, I was wondering if you could give us a guide on the margin, particularly given the moving parts into H2 for the full year. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:31:58Just sure. On your first question, just unpack that a bit for me. Will LarwoodAnalyst at Berenberg00:32:02I think part of the thesis was that there was a lot of supply that was coming online, particularly in Dubai. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:32:06Oh, right. Okay. Capacity supply. Will LarwoodAnalyst at Berenberg00:32:07Yeah. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:32:07Okay. Sorry. Do you want to take the margin question? Do you want me to answer the first two first? Gareth WrightGroup Finance Director at Informa00:32:12Why don't you do that? Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:32:12Yeah. All right, I'll try that. We can time how long it takes the finance director to work out the margin. On supply, the good news about our business is that there's quite a bit of supply coming on in quite a few markets around the world. The obvious place at scale is in the UAE, where DEC has brought on 80% of the additional supply. There'll be more supply next year and then more supply again the following year. There'll be a compounding effect of additional supply. Absent the current circumstances, we would, under normal circumstances, we would have the view we could fill that supply. There's nothing that's happening that would change our view on that. It's not just in that market. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:33:02The same is true in India, the same is true in Thailand, the same is true in parts of China, actually, the same is true in some parts of North America. In a way, it's an underlying indicator because having now spent enough time around people who are either building venues or expanding venues, to do that, you've got to finance it like everything in life. When you do the financing, where you go straight to is forward forecasting on utilization, of which what we do for a living is a big part of it. You see, in other words, in order to finance additional supply, what underpins that is a belief in incremental demand. The two are, as you would expect, fellow travelers. I don't think there's anything that's materially changed in our confidence there. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:33:48On AI deals, yeah, we're in discussion with two. We haven't seen any material change on pricing, to your specific question. Different people want different things in different formats, in different ways, and over different timelines. That's not for any fundamental reason other than everybody needs to be happy with terms and timing and usage. No, I don't think we've seen a material change, and I think the importance of trusted, validated content as an input to the development of the intelligence dimension of autonomous intelligence capability is increasing, it's not decreasing. On the margin, how are we doing? Gareth WrightGroup Finance Director at Informa00:34:42The margin, I suspect the trigger for your question is that we're 2 percentage points down at the half year versus the half year last year. The key dynamic in there is that in Q2, we haven't operated any events in areas like Dubai and Saudi Arabia, but we have absolutely left the indirect cost base intact. We're ready both for the bounce back in those operations in the second half of the year, and we also remain positioned for medium-term structural growth in those markets because we're still very positive about those markets and the outlook for those going forward. We have got a bit of a drag on the margin in the first half, but by the time you get back to the full-year results, you've operated the full portfolio. We expect the margin to be up slightly year-on-year on a full year basis. Gareth WrightGroup Finance Director at Informa00:35:32We'll have worked out in the phasing. Will LarwoodAnalyst at Berenberg00:35:35Thanks. Ciaran DonnellyAnalyst at Citi00:35:39Thanks. It's Ciaran Donnelly from Citi. A few more from me, again, on IMEA. I'm just going to ask directly, do you want to give us the assumptions for H2 and IMEA to get to the 7% guide for the B2B events portfolio? If you're not going to give that number, could you just give us an insight into how Middle East Energy, LEAP, and Money20/20 are trading like-for-like year-on-year? Thirdly, maybe Stephen, just in terms of you've obviously appointed David as CEO of inD. I'm interested, with everything that's gone on in the region, has anything changed this year in terms of getting that entity up and running, in terms of going back to the Investor Day, obviously, last September or October? Has anything changed in terms of approach? Any insights on that would be interesting. Thanks. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:36:40I'm trying to answer your question by giving you some context I'm not at all casual, believe you me, because to a degree, I'm living it, about what's going on in that part of the world. On the ground, the day-to-day reality is not materially different. Businesses are buying and selling, people are trading, people are going to work. If you went to our office in any of those markets, they'd be full, active, and busy. The only thing that's materially changed since the appointment of David is that he's hired his finance director, who's just joined the company, Matty, last week. The two of them are knee-deep in working out what the three-year plan numbers are going to be for 2027, 2028, and 2029. We had a launch event for the joint venture two, three weeks ago. We had about 1,000 people altogether. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:37:36To Gareth's point, we're all systems go, all systems in, all market-focused. There's nothing that's changed. Your first two questions are easier to answer. No and no. Why? Because if we started giving brand by brand, event by event, pacing by pacing, day by day, we wouldn't be doing an investor presentation, we'd be having a sales ops meeting. Which you're welcome to join, but you'd have to give up your day job. The headline that we're trying to communicate is there's clearly dislocation in the market. Where are we seeing that dislocation as a negative to revenue? We're seeing it in largely European and American exhibitors who actually, in most instances, largely for reasons of practical logistics, they can't freight their exhibit capability to the event, at which point it doesn't really make sense. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:38:42There, I didn't want to pick up on the word that was used earlier, we're not having a negotiation with them, we're having a conversation with them about what works. We want them to be customers next year, the year after, the year after, the year after. By and large, those customer conversations are very productive. Our levels of cancellation are somewhere between de minimis and zero. The issue is when you face that situation, you're into rollover and rebook for 2027 rather than anything else. How do you deal with that? You focus on the markets for where that travel dislocation is not so serious, and that takes you to a greater level of market penetration on domestic suppliers, domestic exhibitors, or intra-regional suppliers and intra-regional exhibitors. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:39:39The Saudi Arabian market's a bit different because I would say most if not all of our technology customers who are international have material in-market physical presence. While it may be the case that metaphorically the 50 people from global tech company X who are coming from America may not attend, that doesn't mean that the 50 people from global tech company X who are in-region won't attend. You might have a different composition of attendees, but maybe not a lower volume. It'll be a different mix. Money20/20 is a very different proposition because it's not really an exhibitor event in the same way, you don't have the same freighting implications. That gives you some texture. On top of that, we're bringing new product to market. LIVEX will be a completely new product. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:40:30Wasn't in the plan, wasn't in the budget, wasn't in the market, that's singularly focused on livability and investment in region, actually, that's very attractive. I think we might end up at 20,000, 25,000 attendees at an event that we didn't have in our plan. Net, when you level it all out, you go back to slide 11, that's why we're saying what we're saying today. Ciaran DonnellyAnalyst at Citi00:40:54Perfect, thanks. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:40:56Just if you can add. Nick DempseyAnalyst at Barclays00:40:59Yeah, morning. It's Nick Dempsey from Barclays. I've got two left, please. Just to come back on your comments on 2027. Going back to the AGM update, you were saying that your forward bookings into first half of 2027 meant that B2B events were pacing to deliver strong growth. Now you're talking about visibility building positively, and you talked about the GBP 0.8 billion being up. Is there any change there? Are you still happy with what you said about delivering strong growth from B2B events back at the AGM? The second question, Taylor & Francis performing pretty well now, and you're talking about it improving a little bit more into next year. Maybe you can remind us of the fit of this business within the group and tell us whether you ever receive offers for this unit. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:41:47Hi, Nick. I'm glad you managed to make it. I don't really have much to add. I think the real question on the first half of 2027 will pivot around where are we? We're in July. I think by the time we get to November, I'm using rough dates. By the time we get to November, if there is still a level of uncertainty in the first half of 2027 in that part of the world, I think there might be a different question for WHX than there is for Gulfood. Again, to go back to the answer to Ciaran's question, the profile is different, the exhibitor mix is different, the physicality of the activity participation is different. Right now, we're not seeing anything in the first half that would make us change our view. On T&F, look, we've discussed this many times over many years. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:42:49We don't own that business, we operate that business. I think what we're demonstrating is that we're operating that business with focus on where the future of that business is going to be. Which is going to still be in the majority, servicing academic institutions, librarians, researchers, authors, but increasingly other users, corporate users, prosumer users, research funders, and different geographies as advanced learning expands around the world, outside the traditional geographic centers of advanced learning. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:43:27If we can do that and improve our operating discipline inside the business, both on the cost side and the revenue side, and we can maybe put a little bit of more money more effectively into technology services, we think that recipe means that Taylor & Francis can be part of our growth club at the level that we regard as a kind of minimum viable growth rate for the sort of proposition we're trying to make to shareholders. That's where we are. Question in the front here, and then, Nick, could you just pass the Oh, we've only got one mic. Here and here. Charlie Muir-SandsAnalyst at BNP Paribas00:44:06Thank you. It's Charlie Muir-Sands from BNP Paribas. At the full year results, you put up a slide with some sort of traffic lights highlighting a couple of end markets that I think you refer to a third party as appraising maybe at slightly greater AI risk. I just wondered with respect to those or indeed any others, if you could give any color about whether you're actually seeing some of those end industries, I think, media, financial services were, IT were the ones on the amber scale, which are perhaps underperforming the others or not. Secondly, on Taylor & Francis, I think you previously talked about seeing journal submissions up sort of 20% year-on-year. What's the gap between the conversion? Is it that e-textbooks are dragging? Charlie Muir-SandsAnalyst at BNP Paribas00:44:59Is it that there's just more slop and you're trying to maintain the quality standards, or is there a bottleneck issue in your ability to process that input to convert to revenues or something else? Thank you. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:45:12Great questions. If you want my thought for the day, half-year reflections, which executive colleagues who are here have heard me say in being around our end markets in the first six months of the year, this is not very revelatory. AI is everywhere in all of our events. It's sort of obvious, but when you see it as a content track, as a theme track, as an exhibitor participation, it's the pace of that. I've seen a few of these technology cycle changes. I've been super struck by it. Whether you're in health or pharma or finance or technology or food or agriculture or healthcare, the presence of it and its application to either workflow improvement or process improvement or speed to market, it's very real and very visible. There is definitely It's a visible reality everywhere. Where are we finding it a net drag? Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:46:21I'm not sure we are finding it a net drag in what we do anywhere. I think the markets, where it's either a net drag or an amber are pretty well-documented, and we did, as you say, highlight some of those, where you're seeing already today and prospectively pretty soon tomorrow, timelines to execution shrinking at pace and price of what previously was largely white-collar workflow process just being repriced. We're not really seeing that affect our revenues. If anything, it's probably a net gain for us, because many of these AI suppliers and the segmentation of the AI market, foundation AI gets all the headlines, but there are a whole series of AI sub-layers which are really featured in many of our events. Net, I think positive. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:47:24It's a bit relevant to your T&F question, because I think one of the questions for research publishing generally, but specifically for us also, is how do we retain validation, authentication, verification, and I don't think I've ever had an academic conversation where someone's used the slop word before. How do we retain all those benefits and compress the timeline? Because you're absolutely right, the volume in to the value out, to any independent observer of this business activity, it doesn't add up. Believe you me, we're very alive to that. It's a bit back to the earlier question from Nick. One of the things we believe we can do is use machine intelligence, and significant process improvement to increase that flow without in any way, shape, or form decreasing the quality. To your very specific point, submission numbers are still up. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:48:26It's not a supply issue. It's a management process technology, but critically with quality, maintained if not improved. It's an interesting area, very interesting area for us. Question just here. Rich, are you getting questions from online? Steven LiechtiAnalyst at Deutsche Numis00:48:48Hi, it's Steven Liechti from Deutsche Numis. Just three, I guess. One is, on general trading, RELX referenced sort of ex-Middle East, some disruption in their overall international events. It's not something that we're seeing in your numbers, certainly. Just any comments of any specific areas of weakness relative to your peers or competitors? Secondly, my working assumption is Saudi is pretty underweight U.S. and Western visitors, exhibitors, as you've kind of alluded to. Can you just remind us generally what number to work off for a Dubai-based event in terms of U.S. and Western revenue, let's say overall? Last question is just on T&F. We kind of talked at the CMD about the midterm target to increase almost direct digital deals that aren't one-off LLM training, but more subscription-type models. Can you just give an update on how that is developing overall? Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:49:58Sorry, I let my mind run to the answer to your second question. I didn't capture that bit on the first. Steven LiechtiAnalyst at Deutsche Numis00:50:02Yeah, the last question is on T&F. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:50:05Yeah Steven LiechtiAnalyst at Deutsche Numis00:50:05At the CMD, one of the drivers in the midterm to get to 5% was doing almost longer-term digital AI type deals for data as opposed to training LLMs, which are kind of one-off inherently. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:50:20Okay. No is the short answer to your first question. Have there been some locations and some geographic locations and some specific circumstances where we've had a disruption? Yes. As you know well, that happens. That's kind of like events, dear boy. We haven't seen anything structural outside of the much-discussed situation in the U.A.E. and K.S.A. and in the Middle East. I think your working assumption on K.S.A. is broadly right, although just to restate what I said earlier, it is also the case that partly because of what's happened in the development of the economy in that country, there have been many companies of scale who have built international companies of scale, what you describe as U.S. or Western, that have physical presence at scale in the market. The international participation doesn't have quite the same travel dependency, if that makes sense to you. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:51:29In the U.A.E., it so varies. I'll give you two examples. LIVEX and Middle East Comic-Con will be like 100% domestic and intra-regional. Middle East Energy will be probably 60/40. It really varies. It varies so much depending upon the brand. By definition, I'm not telling you anything you don't already know and probably know better than me, the U.A.E. economy is an expatriate economy. The Saudi economy is more of a domestic economy at a meta level. When you take it down to our individual show brands, it can really vary. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:52:09On T&F, yes, it's part of the reason we've just brought in a new lady who's joined us from Wolters Kluwer to run our corporate and prosumer business inside T&F and really look at how do we take to market new products and services on a contract and term basis for a whole range of different type of customers. We do it already in licensing, quite well actually, but those tend to be licensing deals but to existing customers, if you see what I mean, rather than licensing or product deals to new customers. We think that could be quite a rich seam for us. Percentages, I often say, are the work of the devil. A percentage point of growth is GBP 6 million worth of revenue. Two percentage points of growth is GBP 12 million worth of revenue. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:53:06I could be the Finance Director if I keep going at this. If you take that category and you say, "Right, let's put some real product innovation, product format," you invest for sales capability, which is used to a different sales cycle, a different booking approach, a different usage, and you can have a technology, a platform that can naturally work with a workflow for a corporate that employs 3,000 research scientists. In America, there are a goodly number of those. That's a market. Historically, that's a market we've never spent any time paying attention to. That's really what Penny was pointing at when we were looking at that market. Does that make sense? Last questions in the room. Going, going, gone. Anything online? Very conscious it's nearly summer. Thank you very much for being here in person. Much appreciated. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:00:00Good morning, everybody. For those who are here today, thanks very much for joining in person. For those who are on the live stream, welcome to our half-year results, which we announced this morning, hopefully, some people have had a chance to read it. I'm going to give a quick canter through an update and then try and use most of the time for questions, if we could. Just to kind of step out to step in, this is designed just to remind us why we're in the markets we're in. These are the two markets we operate in as a business, B2B live events and specialist knowledge. I just wanted to pick out two points on both as to why these are good markets with good macro conditions and forward runway. On live events, there's absolutely no doubt at all that specialist market categories are in growth. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:00:52You'll see it later if you just stop and look at our portfolio. We're servicing at-scale markets that 10, 15 years ago, when I started trying to do this for a living, didn't really exist as markets. That methodization of market categories and extended supply chains provides us with significant forward growth potential. The other side, which maybe we didn't predict so much but really is coming home to roost, is the power of live. For those of us who did watch the World Cup with enthusiasm, live events in sport and entertainment, in music, and in business are having more and more traction, more and more value, and more and more uniqueness. Lots of reasons for that. We can get into it, but there's absolutely no doubt that live is a great market to be in. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:01:37On specialist knowledge, trust, and trusted content, the more knowledge that's available, the more important finding trusted content is. Beyond trust, the thing that really matters is verification and authority. There's endless information supply. The question is, which information are you going to pay attention to, and which information comes with validation and authentication? If you're in both of those markets, we've chosen to hang out in two pretty good neighborhoods. So, how good is the house? If we're in two good neighborhoods, how good is our house? Well, we think our house is pretty good. I think you see it in our numbers today. If you wanted a single word to sum up our performance today, I would say it's a living demonstration of resilience. There are many bricks in the wall that give us resilience as a business. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:02:33We have a brand portfolio, which I'm going to come back to, which is certainly in the markets we're in pretty close to unique. We are genuinely an international business. We operate at some version of reasonable scale in about 26 countries around the world. If you operate in the world, you know there is volatility. Much discussion, for understandable reasons, about the volatility in the Middle East, and in particular in how that impacts one country in the Middle East. But there are many countries in the world, and certainly in most years in which I've been doing this, there's volatility somewhere in the world. So breadth really matters. If you're going to have a portfolio, try and have leading positions. That makes a big difference. It gives you a competitive advantage. Then most of all, the increasing importance of audience. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:03:15We started out as a space business. We're migrating to becoming an audience business. To be an audience business, you really need data. Our investment in data and understanding what our customers are doing, what our buyers are doing, what our sellers are doing, is really allowing us the opportunity to bring additional products and services to our customers. Many years back, we wrote down, after an intensive internal work exercise, three words that we thought would summarize what it is we do. Champion the specialist. It's not quite putting a man on the moon, but nevertheless, it sums up the essence of what we do. Specialism is a fantastic set of markets to be in. Generalism is a bit out of fashion. Specialism is highly in fashion. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:04:07If you can be a mile deep rather than a mile wide, you can build moats and boundaries around what you do, and that gives you both advantage and protection. That really has been a very strong North Star for us over the period. This is the shape of the business that we now are. We are predominantly now a B2B business. That wasn't the case back in the day. We still have a very significant position in the academic markets business and a growing position in B2B digital services. Geographically, we are, in absolute terms, nearly 50% an Americas business. I've just come back from spending a chunk of time in the Americas, and the American economy right now is basically pretty strong. We've built our position in Asia. We've built our position in Europe. We've built our position in EMEA. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:05:00As a net consequence, our position in the United Kingdom is becoming an increasingly de minimis part of the group. Our market vertical position has expanded to my earlier point as markets have arrived or we've decided to go into different markets. I often say to potential investors in the company, it's often worth looking not at the markets that we do serve, but the markets that we don't serve. Because generally, we've tried to focus on industry verticals that provide, for us, the fertile ground where we think we can be the best version of ourselves, particularly in B2B. Large markets, international markets, high margin end markets, very extended supply chains, diversified supply, and if you get that lined up, that makes our product really very attractive. This is just a great slide if you do what we do for a living. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:05:59There are only five brands on there that we owned when we started out on this journey as a company. If I went through each of those five, Anti-Aging today is 12x what it was back then. SuperReturn today is 22x. In revenue what it was back then. The Monaco Yacht Show is 3x what it was back then. Middle East Energy is 2.5x what it was back then. The other 45 weren't brands that either existed in some cases or were ours in some cases. This is an absolutely world-class portfolio of brands, markets, categories, and geographic positions, and provides us with a real position both in the ability to retain and attract customers, but also to retain and attract clients. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:06:53You look here in the half year, if you just take these brands that have run in the first half of the year, Cannes Lions, which some of you were at, WHX, which some of you were at, Natural Products Expo, which some of you were at, Money20/20 in Europe, which some of you were at, CPHI in China, which I suspect few of you were at, London Tech Week, actually, which has been a lovely brand that we bought out of administration and turned into a real thing, and SuperReturn, which literally lived up to its name. It was super, and the returns were okay. If you added that up, that's nearly GBP 1 billion of revenue just in those brands alone. The franchises that they afford us around the world is really quite something. That's what adds up to our half-year performance. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:07:43I think we're pleased with where we are. It's been a volatile six months in 2026. If someone had told me in late March, early April, this is where we'd be at the half year, I'd have more than taken it. 6.8% underlying revenue growth. Our profit's slightly ahead of our underlying growth, which is really quite an achievement because we've had no revenues in the Middle East, and that really speaks to the underlying gearing in the business in the first half. We've had strong performances in both our main businesses, live events and in academic markets. You can see the cost of running all of our businesses in the Middle East with virtually no revenue since March in the profit comparison on the reported numbers where we're slightly behind where we were this time last year. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:08:32Actually, if you just flick those numbers, then our underlying profit this year would've been nearly 10% at the half year rather than 6.9%, but still a very robust performance given where we are. We've got very good full-year visibility through to the end of the year. Our balance sheet is in good order. We're reaffirming our guidance. On shareholder returns, we've taken our buyback up again for this year. We still believe our shares afford a good return, and therefore we're happy to be a willing buyer, and we've increased the interim dividend in line with our performance at the half year for our dividend-orientated shareholders. In B2B live events, 8% growth in the half year in aggregate varies a bit depending on where you are by geography, by category, by brand, but very strong performance. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:09:27The strength has been pretty universal actually if you look at it through a geographic lens. It varies more by some individual categories, which maybe we'll get into in questions. The second half matters to us and actually in a good way. We see that accelerating in the second half, which will be helpful because it'll take us strongly into the beginning of 2027. Net, we enter the second half of the year in live events feeling good about what we're doing. As those colleagues on the live stream or in the room will know, this stairway to heaven for our B2B business is really just how we're knife and forking our way through our planning, our approach to brand development, and market position. Price for value, look at the markets we serve, see what level of penetration we have got and how much more we can get. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:10:19Look at what we can do in geo expansion, whether it's brand expansion or syndication or doing more with global cities, which really is becoming quite a power lever for us as a company. Taking advantage of capacity and supply where it's coming into markets, which it is. Really driving value into attendees. That was a Rubicon, which 10 years ago no one was crossing. You can charge people to participate in a B2B event. Ticketing didn't feature, now it does. There's more value you can bring to your attendees if you've got the data and you understand your audience. What more can you do around an event to blow out and glam up the reality of being a participant, an exhibitor, or a sponsor? There are routes to revenue. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:11:04We're not doing them all of the time, every day, in every brand, in every country, for every customer. The good news is we're not doing that yet, that doesn't mean we can't tomorrow. There's a real opportunity for further expansion. Geographically, we're pretty much everywhere we'd want to be. We've got no need or desire to buy another business to give us a platform to operate geographically. Now in M&A we're focused on category and market vertical expansion or brand expansion. I think that is serving us well. My clicker. Sorry. Just to double click on what's actually happening in the B2B market given what's going on in the Middle East, because this will be a question, please take this as your answer. I might refer you to see slide 11. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:12:03First of all, as you can see in our numbers, what do you do? You make everything else work harder. You seek to deliver outperformance in other markets, and you can see us doing that. Secondly, you see what you can do in terms of performance in those markets with domestic brands and with intra-regional participation. Where we are seeing participation leakage, it's not local or intra-regional, it's international. Can you swap out local and intra-regional for international? Thirdly, double down on future business return through not doing what some people are doing, which is reduce your headcount, reduce your costs, exit the market, remove your brands, and run for the hills. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:12:55That might serve you well for a month or a quarter, it doesn't serve you too well for three years or five years, and we're building this business for the long term. Fourthly, defend the long-term value of the brands. I say all the time to shareholders, "This is an annuity business." We do this well, we do this right. You're looking at a business that will recur for 5 years, for 10 years, for 15 years, for 20 years. That's where the real long-term value is. To do that, you need to look after your brands and how they're judged, and within that, your customers. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:13:26As a practical matter, that means being very close to your customers and where needed, provide them with contract flexibility or rollover options, or future credits, in order to not feel that they're being strong-armed to participate if it doesn't suit their commercial position. That's our approach. It's serving us pretty well. Then on top of that, we're using our relationships and our market position to reschedule the brands. I think the battery's a bit dead in this. To reschedule the brands from the first half to the second half. This gives you a sense. There are about 65 events that we're going to run in the region. The other thing I would say when people say to me, "What's going on in the region?" The region is a big place. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:14:13What's happening in India is completely different from what's happening in Egypt, which is completely different from what's happening in Nigeria, which is completely different what's happening in the U.A.E. You've really got to forensically unpeel that onion. We've got about 65 events that are running in region in the second half, and there are about seven of those that are scale events that are running in what you might call the more directly impacted markets. Just to give you a bit of a flavor. The first two events off the taxi rank for us in the second half of the year in region are Middle East Energy in Dubai at the beginning of September, and almost exactly coterminously, our future technology event, LEAP, in Riyadh. Both of those are in market and trading as we speak. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:15:05To switch into academic markets, this has really been the second or third improving quarter in a row or half in a row. Penny and the team are really getting into their stride. Strong underlying growth in the first year, just over 5%. Some of that's phasing, some of that's pre-booking. Some of that is a function of some things that will not recur. The underlying shift in this business is this has gone from being a 1%-2% growth business to being, hopefully, a 4%+ growth business. I'm pretty confident that we can get this to our 5% minimum threshold by 2026. Sorry, by 2027. We're investing in this business. We see an increasing demand for trusted content. As I said in the opening, validated, authenticated content. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:15:52We're investing in international sales because we think here we can do more in geo expansion, a bit like we did in B2B, we were a little bit cautious in academics, we think there's an upside there. We think we can do better in some underserved and unserved market segments, as described here, corporate and prosumer. It's one of those words that probably won't make it into popular language. Nevertheless, it's a segment that we can serve and we can serve well given the nature of our content. We're also investing in our own platform capability to make it easier for customers to discover, to use, to share, and to work with our content. The ambition for this business we've laid out very clearly. This is where we were, this is where we are, this is where we're going. Those are the building blocks. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:16:41Underpinning it is turning this business into a knowledge platform that allows us to demonstrate progress in each of these areas. More volumes, more product, a focus on more markets and not just the librarian, but adding customers and market segments, making it easier for people through technology capabilities to discover and use. To maybe reshape the culture a bit. The culture is very strong inside Taylor & Francis, but making it a bit more customer-focused, a bit more market-focused, a bit more commercial, and at the same time simplifying how we operate, and being a bit more commercial on cost management, vendor consolidation, and the input side of the business. All of that discipline is adding up to a consistently better performance, and that alongside what we're doing in our B2B markets business is really what gives us our half-year number. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:17:38Our latest venture, our newest venture, Informa TechTarget, shades of British Rail, for those of you as old as I am, it's getting there. This is not yet doing what we wanted it to do when we acquired this business or created this business. Lots of reasons for that. Some of it to do with AI displacement revenues, some of it to do with the challenges facing the U.S. enterprise technology market, some of it to do, frankly, with us getting it in the way of our own knitting, and some of it to do with the complexity of a multilayered combination. Put all of that in the operational blender, you end up at -1% rather than +6%. That differential in revenue terms actually is about $30 million-$50 million of revenue. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:18:21It's not a mountain that we can't climb, but it's $30 million-$50 million of revenue that's in the wrong place. The growth rates are leveling out, or the negative growth rates are leveling out. We've got a simple target for this year, get it into growth, then we're planning how we get into 2027 and get this business to begin to do what it was designed to do. Do we think the fundamentals are still there? We do. What we need to do is get to a point whereby that's visible enough to shareholders for us to regain their confidence in our judgment in that market. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:18:54Underpinning it all, this is probably the most important thing going on inside the company at the moment. The good thing about it is it was going on inside the company last year, it's going on inside the company this year, it'll be going on inside the company next year, and the year after. If you go back to my brand slide, if the battery's now working, which it is. You go from three or four brands to 500 brands at pace, as I often used to say to people who were considering joining our company, particularly in senior roles and particularly in technology and system roles, I make no apology for the fact that as a business, we learned to run before we could walk. When you do that, what you find is that your back office is not as robust as your front office. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:19:41That's the price you pay for accelerated acquisition-led growth. The question is, how do you then reverse engineer the back office and the platforms to enable you to get even more out of the front office than you're getting just from a sales and commercial-led business? That's really a large part of what's behind One Informa. What do we do in order to provide platform capability, system capability, horizontal capability in everything from data discovery, data capture, data usage, new product development, marketing platforms, sales platforms, brand development, and more recently, how do we use AI to accelerate that? Which actually for us is probably a net benefit because one of the only advantages of being late, is that technology then comes along and allows you to do it cheaper, quicker, better. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:20:31If we do that, and we bring those AI-empowered enhancements to our operations, One Informa will give us a better bedrock to further enhance the front office performance. In summary, this is where we are. The One Informa program continues at pace. It's putting stability and performance and maturity and capability into the hands of teams at a time, brands at a time, geographies at a time. We are keeping a weather eye on our top line because absent growth, nothing happens. We set ourselves a threshold of never drop below 5%, and we're knocking that out quarter-on-quarter, half-on-half. We still think our shares are not at a point whereby they represent an appropriate value equation, and therefore we're a happy buyer, hence the increase in the buyback. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:21:19Our B2B live events business is our biggest engine, it needs to grow at the fastest rate. The market's growing at about 5%-5.5%. We're the biggest player. We need to beat that. We're targeting ourselves 7%+ for the year. We did 8% at the half year. We want T&F to be a reliable 5%+ growth business, so it's not a drag on our growth ambition. It's getting there. TechTarget, I've talked about. We need to make that a growth business because you get the benefit of the operational gearing. All of that flows through to EPS growth, which we want to see continue coming for our shareholders. Looking forward, what do you see? In 2026, we can see about 85% of our revenue. That means we can all focus on the 15%, which shouldn't be too difficult. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:22:04Our subscription revenues in academic are way ahead of where they normally were. That's part of the operating discipline that Penny and the team have brought. Looking into 2027, we can already see about GBP 800 million of our 2027 revenues, which is a nice position to be in as we begin to plan for 2027. For those of you who follow the company and have done for a long time, you'll know that uneven years are bigger years for us than even years because of the return of our biennials, which are all conveniently in uneven years. The biennials, not surprisingly, tend to be higher growth businesses, partly because they only happen every two years, so the level of pent-up demand is a bit higher. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:22:47You don't just get a cash lift, you also bring into the portfolio big brands that tend to perform at a slightly higher growth pace performance. We're always keen to meet our investors, so we did a field trip to the NRA show in May, which I was not at, but apparently was a really outstanding brand and performance, and gave a real insight, I think, how for many big food brands, household food brands, it brought to life the power of a trade show at scale in a key market. For those of you who have never been to a CPHI event, that really is well worth the time. Milan isn't so tricky to get to. It's, I think I'm correct in saying, our single biggest brand. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:23:39It is the meeting place for that industry, which right now is a real feature of innovation and new product. It's a really great way to see what we do live. That's where we are. We'll throw it open to questions. Who would like to go first? We could run an auction. We'll take questions in the room first, and I think we'll start over here on the far side, if you don't mind. The lady in white, as Chris de Burgh didn't sing. Annick MaasAnalyst at Bernstein00:24:15Good morning, Annick Maas from Bernstein. I think my three questions are for Gareth. Sorry. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:24:20Fantastic. I can sit down. Gareth. Gareth WrightGroup Finance Director at Informa00:24:23Okay. That's a bad start. Annick MaasAnalyst at Bernstein00:24:24The first one is on T&F and the Anthropic court case that was settled with publishers. I think, depending on the assumptions you take, you will benefit from GBP 25 million-GBP 50 million. I was wondering if you could just give us an idea of where in that range we will be and how it will be accounted for. I have other questions as well. Gareth WrightGroup Finance Director at Informa00:24:45I think what we would say is we're still working through that. There are various variables in the numbers in terms of what titles are in there, what are the costs, et cetera. We're working through that. We deliberately haven't put a number in this deck or these results for that reason. We'll update you in the second half of the year as the number becomes clearer. I suspect there will be a number in our second half results for the settlement. We're working through the accounting, I think at the moment, I don't think it'll be revenue. I think it's a settlement number, so it won't change our full-year revenue outlook for Taylor & Francis. As Stephen has mentioned, we're confident about an improving performance in the business on a full-year basis in 2026 versus a full-year basis in 2025, regardless of that. Annick MaasAnalyst at Bernstein00:25:42Great. Thank you. The rest is for B2B markets. I understand you're still negotiating with some exhibitors that were due to attend this year, and they now want to maybe switch to next year. If all of those decide to not stay in this year and move into next, and vice versa, if they all go, does that mean you have revenue upside or downside to your guidance for this year? Gareth WrightGroup Finance Director at Informa00:26:06We've accounted for what we know of at the moment in terms of our potential revenue deferrals. I mean, you're right. There is some revenue deferral from existing customers. There's some revenue deferral for launches that we had planned to make in 2026 that we're now not going to launch in 2026. We'll do those in 2027. On the other hand, we're also still working hard to identify opportunities, and there are one or two opportunities to do targeted in-country launches in the second half of 2026 that we're looking at, both in the UAE and in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, that we think could come to fruition. We're still working hard to maximize the 2026 revenue outcome. We've accounted for what we know and what's visible in the fact that we can meet guidance at the moment. Annick MaasAnalyst at Bernstein00:26:55Okay. My last one is easy. China, you mentioned it in the release. Does that mean that China is now growing? Gareth WrightGroup Finance Director at Informa00:27:04China's performing as we thought it would at the start of the year. We never needed a big uptick in the performance in China to get to the guidance for the full year, and it's pretty much performing in line with those projections. The bull case on China would be a lot of the trading is in the second half of the year, so it's still to come. Therefore, we'll hope for a better outcome, but we don't need a better outcome. It's in growth, but relatively low levels of growth, lower than it's done historically, as in going back a couple of years, but consistent with where it was, say, in 2025. Annick MaasAnalyst at Bernstein00:27:41Thank you. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:27:45Oh, you've got the mic. James TateAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:27:47Thank you. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:27:47Possession is nine-tenths of the law. James TateAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:27:49Exactly. Thank you. It's James Tate from Goldman Sachs. Just a couple of questions, please. I guess, firstly, on the Middle East, as we start to think about 2027, could you just talk about forward bookings for the shows scheduled through 2027? How are they looking now versus historically at this sort of stage of the year? Just to follow up on that, I guess there's a lot of variation by show, but how are forward bookings for the shows running this year tracking into H2? Is around 10% down a fair assumption or some tracking better? I guess secondly, could you just comment on the level of pricing growth you're putting through this year for 2027 events? It's around 3%-4% on average, about the right ballpark. Thank you. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:28:33Everywhere or in the Middle East? James TateAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:28:35Everywhere. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:28:37Yeah, probably, maybe a bit less, depends, because China is not really a price-led market. If you took everywhere, the number might be nearer two to three than three to four, but it might vary depending on where you are in the world, if you're just talking about space pricing, which I think you are. Forward pacing for 2027, pretty good. You see that in our forward booking number. It's pretty similar. I don't know, Richard, 800 versus this time last year. It's just for H1. Yeah. It's up I think it's slightly ahead of where we were this time last year. James TateAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:29:14For the Middle East in particular? Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:29:16I don't know, to be honest. I don't, there's no significant variance number that's sort of flashing in my mind, I don't think that's an issue (yet), not a visible one. What was your other question? James TateAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:29:33The Middle East shows that are running in H2, how do you expect them to run versus last year in terms of revenues? Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:29:40Look, that is such a difficult question to answer without turning this presentation into an operating review brand by brand and country by country, because what's going to happen in India is going to be totally different than what happens in the UAE to what happens in the KSA to what happens in another country. Within that, to the point Gareth made, we've got an event coming in Abu Dhabi, I think on the 29th of September, LIVEX, which is a kind of investment livability summit. I think we've got 20,000 attendees registered, about 50 exhibitors. Last time I looked at it, we've got 50 country participants. That is going to have a completely different profile of attendees than Middle East Energy, which has got a bigger international profile. There the decline rate is probably higher. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:30:35Saudi Arabia, I have a strong confidence will be pretty robust year-on-year. It varies really by geography and by brand. In the round, I think what we're really trying to communicate today is, based on what we know today, we can see a way of navigating it through a combination of all the things I said on slide 11, which is you outperform where you can in other markets, you bring new product to market, which might be a bit more domestically focused, which might compensate for some of your rollover. You roll over into 2027, which actually should help our 2027 numbers, where you need to. Net, that should end up being an outcome we can all live with. James TateAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:31:15Thank you. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:31:17Two questions. Given you have the mic, we could just keep passing it down this side. Will LarwoodAnalyst at Berenberg00:31:22Thanks. Will Larwood from Berenberg. Just firstly, in terms of are you seeing any sort of delays to supply coming online, particularly in the Middle East? I know that was a key point that we spoke about at the CMD. Secondly, you call out looking at further licensing deals for data in Taylor & Francis. Just wondering if you could provide some more color there, particularly what you're seeing in regards to pricing. Finally, I was wondering if you could give us a guide on the margin, particularly given the moving parts into H2 for the full year. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:31:58Just sure. On your first question, just unpack that a bit for me. Will LarwoodAnalyst at Berenberg00:32:02I think part of the thesis was that there was a lot of supply that was coming online, particularly in Dubai. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:32:06Oh, right. Okay. Capacity supply. Will LarwoodAnalyst at Berenberg00:32:07Yeah. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:32:07Okay. Sorry. Do you want to take the margin question? Do you want me to answer the first two first? Gareth WrightGroup Finance Director at Informa00:32:12Why don't you do that? Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:32:12Yeah. All right, I'll try that. We can time how long it takes the finance director to work out the margin. On supply, the good news about our business is that there's quite a bit of supply coming on in quite a few markets around the world. The obvious place at scale is in the UAE, where DEC has brought on 80% of the additional supply. There'll be more supply next year and then more supply again the following year. There'll be a compounding effect of additional supply. Absent the current circumstances, we would, under normal circumstances, we would have the view we could fill that supply. There's nothing that's happening that would change our view on that. It's not just in that market. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:33:02The same is true in India, the same is true in Thailand, the same is true in parts of China, actually, the same is true in some parts of North America. In a way, it's an underlying indicator because having now spent enough time around people who are either building venues or expanding venues, to do that, you've got to finance it like everything in life. When you do the financing, where you go straight to is forward forecasting on utilization, of which what we do for a living is a big part of it. You see, in other words, in order to finance additional supply, what underpins that is a belief in incremental demand. The two are, as you would expect, fellow travelers. I don't think there's anything that's materially changed in our confidence there. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:33:48On AI deals, yeah, we're in discussion with two. We haven't seen any material change on pricing, to your specific question. Different people want different things in different formats, in different ways, and over different timelines. That's not for any fundamental reason other than everybody needs to be happy with terms and timing and usage. No, I don't think we've seen a material change, and I think the importance of trusted, validated content as an input to the development of the intelligence dimension of autonomous intelligence capability is increasing, it's not decreasing. On the margin, how are we doing? Gareth WrightGroup Finance Director at Informa00:34:42The margin, I suspect the trigger for your question is that we're 2 percentage points down at the half year versus the half year last year. The key dynamic in there is that in Q2, we haven't operated any events in areas like Dubai and Saudi Arabia, but we have absolutely left the indirect cost base intact. We're ready both for the bounce back in those operations in the second half of the year, and we also remain positioned for medium-term structural growth in those markets because we're still very positive about those markets and the outlook for those going forward. We have got a bit of a drag on the margin in the first half, but by the time you get back to the full-year results, you've operated the full portfolio. We expect the margin to be up slightly year-on-year on a full year basis. Gareth WrightGroup Finance Director at Informa00:35:32We'll have worked out in the phasing. Will LarwoodAnalyst at Berenberg00:35:35Thanks. Ciaran DonnellyAnalyst at Citi00:35:39Thanks. It's Ciaran Donnelly from Citi. A few more from me, again, on IMEA. I'm just going to ask directly, do you want to give us the assumptions for H2 and IMEA to get to the 7% guide for the B2B events portfolio? If you're not going to give that number, could you just give us an insight into how Middle East Energy, LEAP, and Money20/20 are trading like-for-like year-on-year? Thirdly, maybe Stephen, just in terms of you've obviously appointed David as CEO of inD. I'm interested, with everything that's gone on in the region, has anything changed this year in terms of getting that entity up and running, in terms of going back to the Investor Day, obviously, last September or October? Has anything changed in terms of approach? Any insights on that would be interesting. Thanks. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:36:40I'm trying to answer your question by giving you some context I'm not at all casual, believe you me, because to a degree, I'm living it, about what's going on in that part of the world. On the ground, the day-to-day reality is not materially different. Businesses are buying and selling, people are trading, people are going to work. If you went to our office in any of those markets, they'd be full, active, and busy. The only thing that's materially changed since the appointment of David is that he's hired his finance director, who's just joined the company, Matty, last week. The two of them are knee-deep in working out what the three-year plan numbers are going to be for 2027, 2028, and 2029. We had a launch event for the joint venture two, three weeks ago. We had about 1,000 people altogether. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:37:36To Gareth's point, we're all systems go, all systems in, all market-focused. There's nothing that's changed. Your first two questions are easier to answer. No and no. Why? Because if we started giving brand by brand, event by event, pacing by pacing, day by day, we wouldn't be doing an investor presentation, we'd be having a sales ops meeting. Which you're welcome to join, but you'd have to give up your day job. The headline that we're trying to communicate is there's clearly dislocation in the market. Where are we seeing that dislocation as a negative to revenue? We're seeing it in largely European and American exhibitors who actually, in most instances, largely for reasons of practical logistics, they can't freight their exhibit capability to the event, at which point it doesn't really make sense. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:38:42There, I didn't want to pick up on the word that was used earlier, we're not having a negotiation with them, we're having a conversation with them about what works. We want them to be customers next year, the year after, the year after, the year after. By and large, those customer conversations are very productive. Our levels of cancellation are somewhere between de minimis and zero. The issue is when you face that situation, you're into rollover and rebook for 2027 rather than anything else. How do you deal with that? You focus on the markets for where that travel dislocation is not so serious, and that takes you to a greater level of market penetration on domestic suppliers, domestic exhibitors, or intra-regional suppliers and intra-regional exhibitors. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:39:39The Saudi Arabian market's a bit different because I would say most if not all of our technology customers who are international have material in-market physical presence. While it may be the case that metaphorically the 50 people from global tech company X who are coming from America may not attend, that doesn't mean that the 50 people from global tech company X who are in-region won't attend. You might have a different composition of attendees, but maybe not a lower volume. It'll be a different mix. Money20/20 is a very different proposition because it's not really an exhibitor event in the same way, you don't have the same freighting implications. That gives you some texture. On top of that, we're bringing new product to market. LIVEX will be a completely new product. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:40:30Wasn't in the plan, wasn't in the budget, wasn't in the market, that's singularly focused on livability and investment in region, actually, that's very attractive. I think we might end up at 20,000, 25,000 attendees at an event that we didn't have in our plan. Net, when you level it all out, you go back to slide 11, that's why we're saying what we're saying today. Ciaran DonnellyAnalyst at Citi00:40:54Perfect, thanks. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:40:56Just if you can add. Nick DempseyAnalyst at Barclays00:40:59Yeah, morning. It's Nick Dempsey from Barclays. I've got two left, please. Just to come back on your comments on 2027. Going back to the AGM update, you were saying that your forward bookings into first half of 2027 meant that B2B events were pacing to deliver strong growth. Now you're talking about visibility building positively, and you talked about the GBP 0.8 billion being up. Is there any change there? Are you still happy with what you said about delivering strong growth from B2B events back at the AGM? The second question, Taylor & Francis performing pretty well now, and you're talking about it improving a little bit more into next year. Maybe you can remind us of the fit of this business within the group and tell us whether you ever receive offers for this unit. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:41:47Hi, Nick. I'm glad you managed to make it. I don't really have much to add. I think the real question on the first half of 2027 will pivot around where are we? We're in July. I think by the time we get to November, I'm using rough dates. By the time we get to November, if there is still a level of uncertainty in the first half of 2027 in that part of the world, I think there might be a different question for WHX than there is for Gulfood. Again, to go back to the answer to Ciaran's question, the profile is different, the exhibitor mix is different, the physicality of the activity participation is different. Right now, we're not seeing anything in the first half that would make us change our view. On T&F, look, we've discussed this many times over many years. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:42:49We don't own that business, we operate that business. I think what we're demonstrating is that we're operating that business with focus on where the future of that business is going to be. Which is going to still be in the majority, servicing academic institutions, librarians, researchers, authors, but increasingly other users, corporate users, prosumer users, research funders, and different geographies as advanced learning expands around the world, outside the traditional geographic centers of advanced learning. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:43:27If we can do that and improve our operating discipline inside the business, both on the cost side and the revenue side, and we can maybe put a little bit of more money more effectively into technology services, we think that recipe means that Taylor & Francis can be part of our growth club at the level that we regard as a kind of minimum viable growth rate for the sort of proposition we're trying to make to shareholders. That's where we are. Question in the front here, and then, Nick, could you just pass the Oh, we've only got one mic. Here and here. Charlie Muir-SandsAnalyst at BNP Paribas00:44:06Thank you. It's Charlie Muir-Sands from BNP Paribas. At the full year results, you put up a slide with some sort of traffic lights highlighting a couple of end markets that I think you refer to a third party as appraising maybe at slightly greater AI risk. I just wondered with respect to those or indeed any others, if you could give any color about whether you're actually seeing some of those end industries, I think, media, financial services were, IT were the ones on the amber scale, which are perhaps underperforming the others or not. Secondly, on Taylor & Francis, I think you previously talked about seeing journal submissions up sort of 20% year-on-year. What's the gap between the conversion? Is it that e-textbooks are dragging? Charlie Muir-SandsAnalyst at BNP Paribas00:44:59Is it that there's just more slop and you're trying to maintain the quality standards, or is there a bottleneck issue in your ability to process that input to convert to revenues or something else? Thank you. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:45:12Great questions. If you want my thought for the day, half-year reflections, which executive colleagues who are here have heard me say in being around our end markets in the first six months of the year, this is not very revelatory. AI is everywhere in all of our events. It's sort of obvious, but when you see it as a content track, as a theme track, as an exhibitor participation, it's the pace of that. I've seen a few of these technology cycle changes. I've been super struck by it. Whether you're in health or pharma or finance or technology or food or agriculture or healthcare, the presence of it and its application to either workflow improvement or process improvement or speed to market, it's very real and very visible. There is definitely It's a visible reality everywhere. Where are we finding it a net drag? Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:46:21I'm not sure we are finding it a net drag in what we do anywhere. I think the markets, where it's either a net drag or an amber are pretty well-documented, and we did, as you say, highlight some of those, where you're seeing already today and prospectively pretty soon tomorrow, timelines to execution shrinking at pace and price of what previously was largely white-collar workflow process just being repriced. We're not really seeing that affect our revenues. If anything, it's probably a net gain for us, because many of these AI suppliers and the segmentation of the AI market, foundation AI gets all the headlines, but there are a whole series of AI sub-layers which are really featured in many of our events. Net, I think positive. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:47:24It's a bit relevant to your T&F question, because I think one of the questions for research publishing generally, but specifically for us also, is how do we retain validation, authentication, verification, and I don't think I've ever had an academic conversation where someone's used the slop word before. How do we retain all those benefits and compress the timeline? Because you're absolutely right, the volume in to the value out, to any independent observer of this business activity, it doesn't add up. Believe you me, we're very alive to that. It's a bit back to the earlier question from Nick. One of the things we believe we can do is use machine intelligence, and significant process improvement to increase that flow without in any way, shape, or form decreasing the quality. To your very specific point, submission numbers are still up. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:48:26It's not a supply issue. It's a management process technology, but critically with quality, maintained if not improved. It's an interesting area, very interesting area for us. Question just here. Rich, are you getting questions from online? Steven LiechtiAnalyst at Deutsche Numis00:48:48Hi, it's Steven Liechti from Deutsche Numis. Just three, I guess. One is, on general trading, RELX referenced sort of ex-Middle East, some disruption in their overall international events. It's not something that we're seeing in your numbers, certainly. Just any comments of any specific areas of weakness relative to your peers or competitors? Secondly, my working assumption is Saudi is pretty underweight U.S. and Western visitors, exhibitors, as you've kind of alluded to. Can you just remind us generally what number to work off for a Dubai-based event in terms of U.S. and Western revenue, let's say overall? Last question is just on T&F. We kind of talked at the CMD about the midterm target to increase almost direct digital deals that aren't one-off LLM training, but more subscription-type models. Can you just give an update on how that is developing overall? Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:49:58Sorry, I let my mind run to the answer to your second question. I didn't capture that bit on the first. Steven LiechtiAnalyst at Deutsche Numis00:50:02Yeah, the last question is on T&F. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:50:05Yeah Steven LiechtiAnalyst at Deutsche Numis00:50:05At the CMD, one of the drivers in the midterm to get to 5% was doing almost longer-term digital AI type deals for data as opposed to training LLMs, which are kind of one-off inherently. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:50:20Okay. No is the short answer to your first question. Have there been some locations and some geographic locations and some specific circumstances where we've had a disruption? Yes. As you know well, that happens. That's kind of like events, dear boy. We haven't seen anything structural outside of the much-discussed situation in the U.A.E. and K.S.A. and in the Middle East. I think your working assumption on K.S.A. is broadly right, although just to restate what I said earlier, it is also the case that partly because of what's happened in the development of the economy in that country, there have been many companies of scale who have built international companies of scale, what you describe as U.S. or Western, that have physical presence at scale in the market. The international participation doesn't have quite the same travel dependency, if that makes sense to you. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:51:29In the U.A.E., it so varies. I'll give you two examples. LIVEX and Middle East Comic-Con will be like 100% domestic and intra-regional. Middle East Energy will be probably 60/40. It really varies. It varies so much depending upon the brand. By definition, I'm not telling you anything you don't already know and probably know better than me, the U.A.E. economy is an expatriate economy. The Saudi economy is more of a domestic economy at a meta level. When you take it down to our individual show brands, it can really vary. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:52:09On T&F, yes, it's part of the reason we've just brought in a new lady who's joined us from Wolters Kluwer to run our corporate and prosumer business inside T&F and really look at how do we take to market new products and services on a contract and term basis for a whole range of different type of customers. We do it already in licensing, quite well actually, but those tend to be licensing deals but to existing customers, if you see what I mean, rather than licensing or product deals to new customers. We think that could be quite a rich seam for us. Percentages, I often say, are the work of the devil. A percentage point of growth is GBP 6 million worth of revenue. Two percentage points of growth is GBP 12 million worth of revenue. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:53:06I could be the Finance Director if I keep going at this. If you take that category and you say, "Right, let's put some real product innovation, product format," you invest for sales capability, which is used to a different sales cycle, a different booking approach, a different usage, and you can have a technology, a platform that can naturally work with a workflow for a corporate that employs 3,000 research scientists. In America, there are a goodly number of those. That's a market. Historically, that's a market we've never spent any time paying attention to. That's really what Penny was pointing at when we were looking at that market. Does that make sense? Last questions in the room. Going, going, gone. Anything online? Very conscious it's nearly summer. Thank you very much for being here in person. Much appreciated. Stephen CarterGroup CEO at Informa00:54:09It's much more enjoyable talking to people than empty chairs. To people who joined us on the live stream, thank you very much, and we look forward to seeing you in November at IMS. Thank youRead moreParticipantsExecutivesStephen CarterGroup CEOGareth WrightGroup Finance DirectorAnalystsAnnick MaasAnalyst at BernsteinJames TateAnalyst at Goldman SachsWill LarwoodAnalyst at BerenbergCiaran DonnellyAnalyst at CitiNick DempseyAnalyst at BarclaysCharlie Muir-SandsAnalyst at BNP ParibasSteven LiechtiAnalyst at Deutsche NumisPowered by