DT Midstream Q2 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: DT Midstream reaffirmed its 2026 Adjusted EBITDA guidance and 2027 early outlook, supported by a healthy balance sheet and improved leverage thresholds from Moody’s and Fitch.
  • Positive Sentiment: The company reached final investment decisions on approximately $300 million of organic growth projects, including a 200 MMcf/d LEAP expansion, Viking modernization, a 100 MMcf/d Appalachia expansion, and a 380 MMcf/d NEXUS interconnect serving a data center power plant.
  • Positive Sentiment: DT Midstream has now commercialized 60% of its $3.4 billion organic project backlog, with more than 80% tied to pipeline projects and supported by long-term contracts.
  • Positive Sentiment: Haynesville gathering volumes reached a quarterly record of 2.2 Bcf/d, while management said additional LEAP expansions remain possible as LNG and domestic demand continue to grow.
  • Negative Sentiment: Management expects third-quarter results to be below the strong second quarter because of gathering-network maintenance and temporarily lower Northeast volumes, although the full-year outlook remains unchanged.
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DT Midstream Q2 2026
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Operator

Welcome to the DT Midstream second quarter 2026 earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press star one again. Thank you. I will now turn it over to our speaker today, Todd Lohrmann, Director of Investor Relations. Thank you. Please go ahead.

Todd Lohrmann
Todd Lohrmann
Director of Investor Relations at DT Midstream

Good morning and welcome everyone. Before we get started, I would like to remind you to read the Safe Harbor statement on page two of the presentation, including the reference to forward-looking statements. Our presentation also includes references to non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to the reconciliations to GAAP contained in the appendix. Joining me this morning are David Slater, Executive Chairman and CEO, Chris Zona, President and COO, and Jeff Jewell, Executive Vice President and CFO. With that, I'll go ahead and turn the call over to David.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

Thanks, Todd, and good morning everyone, and thank you for joining. During today's call, I'll highlight our key accomplishments for the quarter and discuss the constructive market fundamentals driving demand across our footprint. I'll turn it over to Chris and Jeff to review our commercial activity, project execution, and financial performance and outlook. With that, midway through the year, we continue to execute our focus strategy while delivering strong results. The organization is firing on all cylinders, giving us confidence in our full-year plan and the future. We're successfully converting strong demand from LNG, power generation, and data center development into new commercial opportunities and organic growth across our footprint. With today's announcements, we have now commercialized 60% of our $3.4 billion organic project backlog, with more than 80% of this being committed to pipeline projects.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

The momentum we're seeing across our business is underpinned by durable market fundamentals that will support growth for many years to come. The market environment continues to reinforce the critical role of natural gas infrastructure, with both domestic and global demand growth highlighting the importance of reliable, secure, and affordable energy supply. A study released earlier this year by the INGAA Foundation concluded that North America will require over $1 trillion of new pipeline infrastructure investment over the next 25 years, highlighting the significant need to connect supply to growing demand centers and supporting the strong investment thesis in natural gas pipeline infrastructure in North America. Internationally, growing LNG demand and ongoing supply disruptions are favoring U.S.-sourced LNG exports as a secure and reliable procurement strategy.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

We continue to believe this dynamic will support additional LNG-related infrastructure investment along the Gulf Coast, creating expansion opportunities across the natural gas value chain, including on our Haynesville system. Natural gas also remains the most reliable and affordable domestic energy source available at scale and plays a critical role in supporting future power demand growth. Our interstate gas pipeline footprint is strategically located to serve this growth, and we continue to advance multiple opportunities across our system supported by these favorable market fundamentals. I'll now turn it over to Chris to walk you through the commercial activity and construction projects that are converting this demand into growth across our footprint.

Chris Zona
Chris Zona
President and COO at DT Midstream

Thanks, David. Good morning, everyone. As David indicated, the second quarter was another active quarter for us commercially. We are announcing today that we've reached FID in approximately $300 million of new organic growth projects from our capital project backlog. Unpacking the new investment projects, the first is an expansion of our Haynesville system, which increases our access to East Texas supply, expands our LEAP pipeline by 200 MMcf per day, and is supported by new long-term agreements with two producer customers. The expansion brings total capacity of LEAP to 2.3 Bcf per day through a combination of incremental compression and looping with an expected in-service date during the second half of 2028.

Chris Zona
Chris Zona
President and COO at DT Midstream

This project highlights our commercial capability to provide timely, competitive customer solutions and the unique advantages of our Haynesville system, which combines premier basin connectivity, direct LNG market access, and efficient, scalable infrastructure. The next project we are moving forward with is the first phase of modernization on Viking, which will improve the reliability of this critical capacity serving the Twin Cities in Minnesota and is expected to be in service in Q4 2028. This investment reflects the continued modernization opportunities we see across our interstate pipelines. The first phases of Guardian and Western advancing as planned, including the recent FERC approval of the filing for Guardian Phase 1. During the quarter, we also executed a new long-term gathering agreement supporting a 100 MMcf per day expansion of our Appalachia Gathering System, which will be in service in Q4 2027, delivering supply into NEXUS and Texas Eastern.

Chris Zona
Chris Zona
President and COO at DT Midstream

This is a demand-based contract reflecting growing producer activity in the region. Finally, we commercialized another new interconnect on NEXUS this quarter, which will have a capacity of 380 MMcf per day and will provide supply for a natural gas-fired power generation facility to power a new data center in Ohio. Combined with the interconnect we announced on the first quarter call, we are adding over half a Bcf of demand pool to the main line of NEXUS. Taken together, these new projects highlight the breadth of organic opportunities we continue to see across our footprint and our ability to commercialize these, all of which are supported by long-term contracts and durable customer demand. Looking beyond today's announcements, we continue to see a robust set of future expansion opportunities across our footprint.

Chris Zona
Chris Zona
President and COO at DT Midstream

Projects such as the MIST expansion on our Midwestern Gas Transmission and Vector 2030 expansion are advancing through the commercialization process, and we remain encouraged by ongoing customer discussions and the demand outlook supporting these opportunities. On MIST specifically, we see the project likely coming in multiple phases with southbound and northbound expansions. We are advanced in the process of commercializing binding agreements, with the next milestone being a binding open season. Overall, these opportunities reinforce our confidence in the long-term growth potential around our assets reflected in our capital project backlog, and we will keep you updated as we continue to move them forward. Turning to our construction projects, we successfully filed the FERC 7(c) application for our Guardian G3 Expansion project in June, and all of our other in-flight growth investments remain on track and on budget.

Chris Zona
Chris Zona
President and COO at DT Midstream

Finally, operationally for the quarter, total gathering volumes for the Haynesville averaged 2.2 Bcf per day, an all-time record throughput on our system for a quarter. In the Northeast, volumes averaged 1.38 Bcf per day. Looking ahead to the third quarter, we expect Haynesville volumes to be in line with the second quarter and Northeast volumes to be lower due to timing of producer activity. I will now pass it over to Jeff to walk you through our quarterly financials and outlook.

Jeff Jewell
Jeff Jewell
EVP and CFO at DT Midstream

Thanks, Chris, and good morning, everyone. In the second quarter, we delivered adjusted EBITDA of $305 million, representing a $3 million decrease from the prior quarter. Our pipeline segment results were $14 million lower than the prior quarter, driven by seasonally lower revenues from our joint venture pipelines and higher revenue on Stonewall. Gathering segment results were $11 million greater than the prior quarter, reflecting higher volumes on Blue Union. Growth capital investment for the second quarter was $86 million, which is in line with our plan, and we expect a ramp in growth capital over the balance of this year.

Jeff Jewell
Jeff Jewell
EVP and CFO at DT Midstream

As you look to the second half of the year, we expect the third quarter to be in line with our full year guidance, but to be lower than the strong second quarter, driven by maintenance across our gathering network and as Chris noted, Northeast volumes are expected to be lower due to timing of producer activity. We are confident in our full-year outlook and thus are reaffirming our 2026 adjusted EBITDA guidance range and our 2027 adjusted EBITDA early outlook. The new investments that reached FID this quarter will increase our 2026 and 2027 committed capital to approximately $425 million in 2026 and approximately $560 million in 2027. Our balance sheet is very healthy and in a strong position, with two of the rating agencies recently raising our leverage downgrade thresholds.

Jeff Jewell
Jeff Jewell
EVP and CFO at DT Midstream

Moody's from 4.0x to 4.25x on a proportionate basis, and Fitch from 4.0x to 4.5x for an on-balance sheet. Today we also announced that our Board of Directors approved our second quarter dividend of $0.88 per share, unchanged from the prior quarter, and we remain committed to grow the dividend in line with adjusted EBITDA. I'll now pass it back over to David for closing remarks.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

Thanks, Jeff. In summary, we remain confident in delivering on our guidance, continuing our strong track record of disciplined execution while advancing organic growth opportunities across our footprint. Our team is executing well, focusing on our customers' growing needs, which our high-quality, pure-play natural gas pipeline portfolio is positioned to serve. The long-term outlook for natural gas infrastructure in North America remains highly constructive, supported by growing LNG and power demand and the increasing need for reliable, affordable, and secure energy. With that, we can now open up the line for questions.

Operator

At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. We'll pause for a moment to compile the Q and A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Theresa Chen. Your line is open.

Analyst

Good morning, and thank you for taking my questions. Would you elaborate on the commercialization progress and process for MIST at this point, specifically on the size and scope of the phasing approach and how you see the competitive landscape evolving over the next few months?

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

Good morning, Theresa. This is David, and good to hear from you. I'll start, and Chris, maybe you can jump in and fill it in a bit. I'd say I'm just going to elevate the conversation for a second and just remind everybody, we're focused on the customer need, and the customer need is the ultimate driver. That demand growth and the timing of that demand growth is the driver behind the commercialization timeline for MIST. I think as Chris alluded, and I think as we've discussed in the past, the project seems to be phasing into a southerly and a northerly type expansion. In terms of size, scale, Chris, maybe you want to add a little color to that?

Chris Zona
Chris Zona
President and COO at DT Midstream

Yeah, sure, David. I would say that it's a bit early here for us to really disclose anything related to size and scope of that.

Chris Zona
Chris Zona
President and COO at DT Midstream

As David mentioned, we're really focused on the customer needs. I think in our view, remains the first phase could be in service as early as end of 2029. Again, that's all going to be dictated by what the customer needs are. Commercialization process, we are working on the binding precedent agreements and that's going well. I'll just say, just given the amount of demand in the area, we remain very encouraged by what we're seeing in the conversations that are ongoing. I think that's kind of where we sit today.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

Yeah, Theresa, I think we said in the past, maybe I'll just reiterate it here, is that from a size and scale perspective, I think we've always compared this to G3 as something similar in size and scale as G3. Like Chris said, this is very fluid and as it crystallizes or as the MIST rises, we'll give you more detail. Stay tuned.

Analyst

Understood. Maybe on the supply options for this project, what factors are influencing your decisions and development process here? Can you just help lay out the different options between REX, Borealis or other alternatives and what you're seeing there? Then maybe specific to Borealis relative to MIST in particular, given its potential role as a supply source, but at that same time there's good debate on future TGT lateral expansions that could also expand it to some of the similar markets targeted by MIST South. Can you just help clarify to what extent you see MIST and Borealis as complementary versus competitive over the long term?

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

Yeah, here's how to think about it, Theresa, is that Midwestern is the last mile to the load center. The one benefit or positioning that Midwestern has in the market is it has multiple supply sources into that pipe, right? It's a north-south pipe, Chicago to Nashville. It can be fed by Vector, it can be fed by Alliance, it can be fed by REX, it can be fed by Texas Gas, and it can also be fed in the south by Tennessee Gas. We've got a very diverse supply path optionality that's embedded in the pipeline. That's one of the features that makes this asset very attractive from a customer perspective, a lot of supply optionality and flexibility. That's how the pipe operates today. That's how I expect it will continue to operate in the future. We're somewhat agnostic to the supply pathway.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

If Borealis commercializes, that's great. We would expect that that would add additional supply to the southern end of the system. REX does an expansion, that's great, too. It'll put supply right in the middle of the system. Obviously we're working on a Vector expansion that puts supply on the north end of the system. That's a feature that I think puts us in good standing with the customers in terms of as they look at developing and as the demand grows. Obviously, customers want to have multiple supply optionality to serve their demand, and Midwestern offers that.

Analyst

Thank you very much for the color.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jean Ann Salisbury. Your line is open.

Analyst

Hi, good morning. If Enbridge's Project Beacon to expand Algonquin into New England moves forward, does that materially increase the need for Millennium or maybe another third-party pipeline option that sources gas from Appalachia?

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

Yeah. Good morning, Jean Ann. Great question. Beacon is sourcing its supply from Millennium, a point called Ramapo on Millennium. We're very supportive of the Beacon project. As that project commercializes, those shippers are speaking directly with Millennium to bring incremental supply to the receipt point on that project. You can almost think of the two projects as tandem projects. They're very complementary to each other. I think the short answer is yes. As Beacon commercializes, that's going to drive incremental opportunity on Millennium.

Analyst

Very clear. Thank you. As the gas pipelines in the Permian come online over the next couple of years, there could be a lot more Permian gas coming to the LNG corridor. Is there some risk that you see that maybe less Haynesville gas will need to go to the LNG than was previously thought, and more will kind of go towards the southeast? Does that change your outlook for getting to the full 4 Bcfd on LEAP over time?

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

I think our view on the Permian is supported by some of our actions here over the last couple of years, where we've been really intentional about enhancing our connectivity to Carthage. We believe Carthage will be one of the landing zones for Permian gas as it pushes easterly. The Permian gas is chasing both LNG demand, but it's also chasing domestic demand as well. The expansion that Chris talked about this morning is going to enhance our connectivity to Carthage Kind of for the reason that you just described. In terms of the demand growth over the next 5-10 years, it's incredibly robust and it's going to need all of that Permian gas, and it's going to need significant incremental Haynesville gas.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

We're in a robust demand environment right now where all basins will need to grow, and I believe that will drive opportunities across the entire pipeline ecosystem.

Analyst

That makes sense. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Spiro Dounis. Your line is open.

Analyst

Thanks, operator. Good morning, team. Wanted to start with 2027 CapEx quickly. The slide seems to point to maybe a step change there. Realize no numbers are involved, but seems like a nice gap up. I'm curious what's changed since your last update. How much of that is an acceleration of projects into 2027 versus maybe new opportunities you're potentially seeking here?

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

Good morning, Spiro. I think it's as simple as the projects that we FID'd. We give two years forward detailed view of the CapEx, and what you're seeing here on that slide is really the portion of CapEx related to those projects that we announced today and how much of that falls in 2026 and 2027.

Analyst

Understood. Second question, hoping to not get you to repeat yourself, just wanted to go back to your competitive advantage in and around MIST and in that region. A lot of inflight projects from competitors kind of announced in that neck of the woods. I'm just curious, I know that you're agnostic in some cases, but could you maybe just put a finer point on how you see your competitive advantage there and maybe what more of a blue sky scenario is for DTM? Is this in a situation where everybody wins or is it not really sort of more of a net zero game?

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

That's an interesting question. I'm probably going to repeat what I said earlier, is that for existing infrastructure, it's kind of like real estate, location, location, right? Where the demand manifests, if you're the asset in the ground that's nearest to that demand, you're going to have an advantage. Again, I view Midwestern as sort of the last mile to the demand, where the demand is manifesting. How the supply navigates to Midwestern is to be determined. As I said earlier, the big advantage that Midwestern has is that it's not married to one supply pathway, you don't have to sign up for the big ticket, for lack of a better word. You can take out the last mile, you have lots of supply optionality, then you can sort of diversify your supply sourcing strategy.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

That's the way I would think about it and how things evolve upstream of Midwestern back into the various basins. I think those dominoes are yet to fall.

Analyst

Got it. I'll leave it there. Thank you, David.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Keith Stanley. Your line is open.

Analyst

Hi. Good morning. First wanted to clarify on MIST. David, when you say you expect it to be comparable to G3 in size and scale, are you referring to the capacity of the project or more the amount of capital investment?

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

Yes and yes. I think that's how I framed it probably two quarters ago. It's size and scale similar to G3 on a lot of different metrics.

Analyst

Okay. Second question: Any early conversations you could point to with utilities on the need for a Guardian G4? I think WEC had said they plan to update next quarter on some of their plans around the nuclear plant and the like. Do you think, I guess, G4 could start to get commercialized later this year once the utilities update their plans? Or is that more likely a 2027 event?

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

I think if we talk about kind of that Wisconsin, that greater Wisconsin market, they're following a very rigorous regulatory process right now. I think I would point investors to that regulatory process, and I think you're saying it correctly, that we're somewhat of a derivative of that regulatory process. I think you said it well. That's a fairly true statement across our footprint. When I look at slide eight in our deck, our entire asset footprint is kind of lit up like a Christmas tree right now, and we've never seen that before while we've owned these assets. It's just such a strong demand pull market environment right now.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

The regulatory processes that are unfolding across all these states, across our entire footprint, are very foundational to our assets and all these expansion opportunities, whether it be what's happening in New England, in New York, or our conversation here about Wisconsin, what's going on in Michigan, Ohio. It's all being Kind of framed and driven around the regulatory processes because the vast majority of our demand pull interest is coming from regulated entities. It's a very exciting time. Those investments, once they move through the regulatory framework, are incredibly durable and we're very excited about what's unfolding right now around our footprint.

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Julien Dumoulin-Smith. Your line is open.

Analyst

Hey, guys. This is Alex for Julien. Just a question on Haynesville, and where Henry Hub is currently. Are you guys seeing anything in the way of price-related curtailments in Haynesville or are you mostly insulated through MVCs? Then, maybe just like generally, how are conversations trending post-Iran and could you see a potential for LEAP expansions beyond these kind of 200 Ms that you've historically done? Thank you.

Chris Zona
Chris Zona
President and COO at DT Midstream

Yeah. Hey, Alex. Chris here. Yeah, I'll take that one. Let me start with, do I see potential for incremental LEAP expansions? I'd say absolutely. I would say based on the project here that we just announced on the expansion on the Haynesville system, it's pretty clear that the optionality that we have from the supply side in the Gulf Coast market access with LEAP, and the ability to expand that in these bite-size increments, right? I don't need huge obligations here to incrementally expand that. It is very attractive to the market and I expect that's going to continue going forward as well. I will say this on the volume side, again, we see and run volumes of our Haynesville system.

Chris Zona
Chris Zona
President and COO at DT Midstream

There'll be some producers will decline, but there's a lot of other producers that are going to keep their volumes high and actually achieve a little bit of growth. We're going to be flat going into Q3. I don't see that changing right now. Again, we've got all of our customers' forecasts baked into our guidance here, and I don't see any material changes to that.

Analyst

Got it. That's helpful. Just switching gears to Guardian. You guys have talked about Iowa being a state to watch for data center demand and how that could be beneficial for Guardian. Do you see that as a potential avenue to necessitate an expansion that's sort of separate to a G4? From your perspective, what do you think you would need to get more constructive on the Iowa backdrop generally?

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

Yeah, I think when we say the greater Wisconsin area, maybe we should say Iowa and Wisconsin.

Analyst

Got you.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

That's what we're referring to when we make those comments. I would just mirror the comments that maybe had the Wisconsin label on it. It's really Wisconsin and Iowa. We need to monitor and observe the regulatory process there with the utilities. I think, like I said earlier, we are a derivative of that activity.

Analyst

Perfect. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jeremy Tonet. Your line is open.

Analyst

Hi. Good morning.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

Morning, Jeremy.

Analyst

Maybe picking up on Guardian, appreciate there's a lot of uncertainties as you outlined there. If I'm thinking the possibility of order of magnitude of what this could look like, would G4, if I'm thinking about scope, CapEx, EBITDA, and so on, could that look like G3 or how should we think about the realm of possibility here?

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

Yeah, you're asking me to look in the crystal ball again, Jeremy. I don't want to get ahead of it. I think if you observe, I know you do, you observe the utility conversations very closely. I'd say the market share that we were able to acquire through this round of expansions, I would expect we would be able to hold a similar market share in the next round of expansions. Maybe that's the way I'll describe it. I don't want to get too far over the horizon to try to predict the exact numbers or size and scale. I can tell you that the capital costs of projects are going up over time, not down.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

We'll let the demand crystallize first in those geographies, then we'll look forward to the competition to get our fair share of that demand.

Analyst

Got it. That's helpful. That sounds pretty similar to me, appreciate the color. Maybe if we just turn to NEXUS here. Seems like a pretty good-sized interconnect as you talk about for the quarter. If you could just remind us, I guess, where the pipe's at capacity-wise, where it could go to, in the future, how we should think about EBITDA growth in the future here.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

Sure. The capacity of the pipe today is about 1.4 Bcf per day, and the pipe is effectively fully contracted today. There are some shorter-term contracts that roll every couple of years, which has NEXUS in this enviable position as one of maybe the only or a handful. Very limited available capacity out of the Appalachia Basin that's available to be contracted for longer term. NEXUS sits on probably the vast majority of that. It's in a pretty attractive spot. We've been sort of working that Northwestern Ohio market, bringing demand to the main line. That's step one, is get it connected to the main line. Step number two is then provide service to that demand center off the main line.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

It's again, that domino effect where you just do the first step, get the last mile connected, and then that demand comes on the network, and then over time, you're going to generate opportunities on the network to service that demand. That's really been the strategy. In terms of NEXUS in particular, we can expand NEXUS quite easily with compression. Just to remind the audience, I think when we built the asset eight years ago, we did not construct one of the compressor stations, but the yards there, the headers are sitting there. We're in a really good position to drop incremental compression on the asset to expand it. We would hope that as we monetize the existing capacity that's available to be monetized long term, that that would be step one. Step two would be triggering an expansion.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

The market is ripening, I'll say it that way, and I think we want to just be strategic and patient as we address the market demand that's materializing.

Analyst

Got it. Appreciate the color. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Saumya Jain. Your line is open.

Analyst

Hi. Good morning. Following the prior recontracting of the Midwestern capacity, what percentage of the remaining portfolio is up for renewal over the next 12-24 months? How do the pricing dynamics look for that?

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

I'm going to pass that one over to Chris because I don't know the answer to that.

Chris Zona
Chris Zona
President and COO at DT Midstream

Yeah. No, good question. I know our current capacity, we completely resubscribed, I'd have to go back on and look and see what's coming up in the next 24 months. I don't have that in front of me here. I would tell you this. In our last renewal period, we had a lot of contracts that were year-to-year, very short term. We did some tariff modification. We modernized our tariff on Midwestern, subsequently to that, we were basically 5-25-year extensions. I'll say this. My expectation is that the market completely understands the value of that capacity longer term, I expect my renewal tenure to continue to increase in term. I think that's the way that I would look at it.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

Yeah. Midwestern is a great example of the value of assets in the ground. The fact that we had one customer in particular want a 25-year renewal on their contract capacity is a strong indication of what's evolving in the market area and how some of these assets, they truly are irreplaceable. If you did replace it, the cost would be 3x, 4x, versus the asset that's in the ground today. The market is acknowledging that and recognizing that. It's like I said earlier in the call, it's just this incredible demand pull opportunity that's manifesting across the entire footprint. Again, we just need to be thoughtful and strategic about how we contract into that strong demand pull.

Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you. Your recent Guardian expansion filing noted the project serving five local utility shippers. Is there any more color you can provide on these customers, and would you likely pursue similar customers and also 20-year contracts with G4?

Chris Zona
Chris Zona
President and COO at DT Midstream

Sure. I would say on G3, our customers, we're pretty much set on that customer base for G3. No, absolutely, I think G4, a lot of the market support and the market need is going to be, again, utility-based. I would view, I think we expect G4 market support to look very similar to G3 is the way I would put it.

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of John Mackay. Your line is open.

Analyst

Hey, team. Thank you for the time. David, you mentioned a lot of the kind of supply for these Midwest projects. It's still TBD, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on whether there's any opportunity for you to feed some of that with Haynesville supply and/or maybe helping to reroute some supply coming from farther west.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

Yeah, that's a really perceptive question, John, and that's a question strategically that we spend a lot of time thinking about. Number one, thanks for asking it. I'm going to maybe elevate that question a little bit to kind of make the point is that if the forecasters are even close to right, there's like 30-40 Bcf of demand that's going to manifest in North America over the next 20 years. That's going to cause all the current basins to have to dispatch and lift the production, right? That's Appalachia, that's Haynesville, that's Permian. That's probably other basins as well. How do you get that supply from those basins to where the demand is? That's a material uplift in demand and sort of goes to my opening remarks on the INGAA Foundation study.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

That was the purpose of that study, was to try to understand that at the macro level and understand the magnitude of the investment required to achieve that and serve that demand reliably. It will drive expansions on major interstate pipe freeways out of these basins. We obviously want to participate in that, either directly with our assets or potentially with other new projects. That's very much strategically on our mind and on the agenda. It's very early days to talk about that, but I can assure you that that is one of my top priorities. Chris is smiling right now, so he understands that that usually means that I'm talking to him a lot about this. We're super excited about that. The footprint is lit up right now, like I said earlier, with opportunities all over the place.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

What we aren't showing is what you're asking, which is: how do you get that 30 Bcf of incremental production from where it's going to be produced to where it's going to be consumed? That obviously is going to drive some very large incremental investments, potentially drive incremental new pipelines in addition to expanding existing pipelines. Super exciting time. We're just still really early in the game on that, John. I'll just leave my comments there. We're very focused on that, but it's still very early, and that is an opportunity set that is yet to be illuminated.

Analyst

Thank you for that, David. Makes a lot of sense. Maybe my quick follow-up and second question will just be understanding it's early days. It is effectively a problem that you're pointing to that needs to be resolved. In your mind, from this kind of top-down macro perspective, not necessarily having DTM projects, when do you need to see the market coming out with these solutions? Is it a 2030 in service type of thing? Maybe just frame that piece up for us.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

I think you're correct, is that those projects likely are going to be large FERC projects that require significant contractual support and commitment, and are going to run through the full-blown regulatory process. If we look back to a decade ago, the last time we did this, like with NEXUS or with Rover or with Mountain Valley, well, maybe we don't want to talk about Mountain Valley, but it's a multi-year journey to go from concept to commercialization to actually construction and turning the valve. I always remind everybody that NEXUS was conceived in 2011 on a napkin, and we didn't turn the valve. It was seven or eight years later when the valve turned. These projects can take a long time to percolate and mature. The demand is showing up.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

The market is real, as the demand shows up, the forces of supply and demand kick in. These projects are going to start to percolate and going to start to become real. Quickest is three to four years, is the way I would say it. Your estimate is pretty much spot on, that the earliest these projects could click in is early 2030s.

Analyst

Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

Operator

Your final question comes from the line of Theresa Chen. Your line is open.

Analyst

Hi. Thank you for letting me back on. I just wanted to go back to the Haynesville quickly. Given recent consolidation-related headlines across the Haynesville to Gulf Coast corridor, how do you view the strategic merit and probability of further consolidation in the region in general? How do you view the market evolving from here, and how would this potentially impact future expansions on existing assets, including your own?

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

Yeah. That's an interesting question, Theresa. It's only because you're our favorite analyst that we let you back on.

Analyst

Thank you.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

I'm just kidding.

Analyst

Thank you.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

Yeah, if there is additional consolidation, what do I think about that? At the highest level, that shrinks the competitive landscape. We're very confident in our competitive position, and we're not afraid of competition. I guess if the landscape shrinks, that's one less competitor that's on the playing field. We're in an environment right now where everything is growing, right? It just feels like we're not in a consolidation M&A environment right now. Right now, I'll speak maybe for DTM. Like I said, the organic opportunity set that's presenting in front of us is as robust as I've ever seen it in my entire career. We're super focused on commercializing that. That adds a lot of value to the equity very quickly. M&A in this environment, it's a higher bar. I'll just say it that way.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

It's a much higher bar to do M&A in this environment. I guess those are my thoughts on consolidation at the highest level.

Analyst

That's very clear. Thank you.

Operator

I will now turn the call back over to David Slater for closing remarks.

David Slater
David Slater
Executive Chairman and CEO at DT Midstream

Well, thanks so much for joining us today. These were just a series of great questions, some really good macro strategic questions. I think the message here is that we continue to experience an incredibly robust market. We so much appreciate our investors and your interest and the support that you've had for us over the years. Thank you very much and have a good day.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.

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