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ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Altria Group EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.31Consensus EPS $1.35Beat/MissMissed by -$0.04One Year Ago EPS$1.31Altria Group Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$6.21 billionExpected Revenue$5.39 billionBeat/MissBeat by +$816.62 millionYoY Revenue Growth+14.20%Altria Group Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date7/31/2024TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateWednesday, July 31, 2024Conference Call Time9:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Altria Group Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJuly 31, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Altria’s Enjoy e-vapor business delivered strong sequential momentum in Q2—consumable shipments rose 14.7% and devices 80%, helping Enjoy capture 5.5% consumable share and 25.4% device share, bolstered by the first FDA marketing orders for menthol e-vapor products and new PMTA submissions. Illicit flavored disposable products now represent over 60% of the U.S. e-vapor category—driving an estimated 2–3% of cigarette industry decline and proliferating in nicotine pouches and cigarettes—highlighting FDA’s lack of enforcement and spreading illicit market activity across tobacco categories. The oral tobacco segment grew as nicotine pouches reached 42% category share, with Helix’s ON volumes up 37% and retail share up 1.2 points to 8.1%, while the innovative On! Plus foam pouch gained strong trial and repurchase rates internationally and PMTAs were filed for U.S. launch. In traditional tobacco, adjusted diluted EPS was flat in Q2 and full-year guidance was narrowed to $5.07–$5.15 (up 2.5–4%), as cigarette volumes declined ~11% but Marlboro maintained a 42% retail share and net price realization was 9.9%. Altria returned $5.8 billion to shareholders in H1 through dividends and share repurchases, completed its $2.4 billion accelerated buyback, and ended Q2 with a 2.1x debt/EBITDA ratio, reinforcing its commitment to capital discipline and shareholder value. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallAltria Group Q2 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xThere are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Altria Group 20 24 Second Quarter and First Half Earnings Conference Call. Today's call is scheduled to last about 1 hour, including remarks by Altria's management and a question and answer session, representatives of the investment community and media on the call will be able to ask questions following the conclusion of the prepared remarks. I would now like to turn the call over to Mac Livingston, Vice President of Investor Relations for Altria Client Services. Please go ahead, sir. Speaker 100:00:28Thanks, Savannah. Good morning, and thank you for joining us. This morning, Billy Gifford, Altria's CEO and Sal Mancuso, our CFO, will discuss Altria's 2nd quarter and first half business results. Earlier today, we issued a press release providing our results. The release, presentation, quarterly metrics and our latest corporate responsibility reports are all available at altria.com. Speaker 100:00:56During our call today, unless otherwise stated, we're comparing results to the same period in 2023. Our remarks contain forward looking and cautionary statements and projections of future results. Please review the forward looking and cautionary statement section at the end of today's earnings release for various factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from projections. Future dividend payments and share repurchases remain subject to the discretion of our Board of Directors. We report our financial results in accordance with U. Speaker 100:01:33S. Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. Today's call will contain various operating results on both a reported and adjusted basis. Adjusted results exclude special items that affect comparisons with reported results. Descriptions of these non GAAP financial measures and reconciliations are included in today's earnings release and on our website at altria.com. Speaker 100:02:01Finally, all references in today's remarks to tobacco consumers or consumers within a specific tobacco category or segment refer to existing adult tobacco consumers 21 years of age or older. With that, I'll turn the call over to Billy. Speaker 200:02:20Thanks, Mac. Good morning and thank you for joining us. Altria's momentum continues to build as we pursue our vision to responsibly lead the transition of adult smokers to a smoke free future. In the Q2, our company's innovative smoke free products delivered strong share and volume performance. And we hit meaningful milestones that we believe set us up for future success. Speaker 200:02:49Enjoy received the first and only marketing granted orders from the FDA for menthol e vapor products. And we submitted PMTA applications to the FDA for next generation Enjoy and on products. Our traditional tobacco businesses remain resilient despite a challenging operating environment. Our highly cash generative businesses supported continued investments in our innovative products efforts, and we returned significant value to shareholders during the first half of the year. With more than $5,800,000,000 delivered to shareholders through share repurchases and dividends. Speaker 200:03:35And we believe our dedicated teams have us on track to deliver against full year financial guidance. This morning, my remarks will focus on Enjoy's encouraging second quarter results. The state of the e vapor category, illicit market activity and enforcement actions and strong second quarter results from 1. I'll then turn it over to Sal, who will provide further detail on our financial results, including our outlook, the performance of our traditional tobacco businesses and capital allocation. Let's begin with the e vapor category. Speaker 200:04:19In June, we celebrated the 1 year anniversary of welcoming Enjoy into the Altria family of companies. Since that time, we've combined our industry leading capabilities with Injoy's competitive product offering and are thrilled with the progress we've made. Let me briefly recap some of our accomplishments. We strengthened Enjoy's supply chain to enable our expansion plans tripled Enjoy's retail footprint to over 100,000 stores, secured premium positioning at retail in more than 80% of contracted stores through Enjoy's First Trade program, launched a variety of trial generating activities with compelling results and introduced a new brand equity campaign with impactful consumer messaging. As a result of these efforts, Enjoy saw continued traction at retail during the 2nd quarter and first half as evidenced by volume momentum and share growth. Speaker 200:05:30Enjoy consumables shipment volume was approximately 12,500,000 units for the 2nd quarter and 23,400,000 units for the first half. And device shipment volume was approximately 1,800,000 units for the Q2 and 2,800,000 units for the first half. Both consumable and device shipment volumes increased sequentially with consumables increasing by 14.7% and devices by 80%. To generate trial in the 2nd quarter, Enjoy paired equity messaging about its attractive product proposition with promotional support and saw compelling results at retail. For the Q2, Enjoy's retail share of consumables was 5.5 share points, up 1.3 share points sequentially. Speaker 200:06:30Enjoy's retail share of consumables grew in each of the past 9 months. We're also encouraged by Enjoys device share, which we believe is an important indicator of trial and a potential leading indicator of longer term adoption. As a result of trial focused investments, in the Q2, Enjoy expanded its share of devices in the multi outlet and convenience channel to 25.4 share points, more than doubling its share of devices sequentially. We plan to continue investing behind Enjoy's value proposition Enjoy's value proposition and equity to build awareness and generate trial. At retail, approximately 2 thirds of fixture resets are now complete, and we've amplified Enjoy's visibility and secured premium positioning through its trade program. Speaker 200:07:31Enjoy is also reaching increased numbers of adult consumers through its events infrastructure and digital marketing programs. Through these engagements and Enjoy's equity campaign, we can continue to position Enjoy as a competitive alternative for adult smokers and vapers to responsibly grow Enjoy over the long term. On the regulatory front, in June, Enjoy received marketing granted orders from the FDA for 4 menthol e vapor products. Enjoy has the 1st and only menthol e vapor products authorized by the FDA, a significant accomplishment for the Injoy team and a testament to the quality of Injoy's robust science and evidence based applications. Under the terms of our acquisition of Injoy, upon receiving these authorizations, we made cash payments totaling $250,000,000 in July. Speaker 200:08:38Now all in market Enjoy products are covered by marketing granted orders from the FDA. In addition, Injoy submitted a supplemental PMTA to the FDA to commercialize and market the Injoy ACE 2.0 device, which incorporates access restriction technology designed to prevent underage resubmitted PMTAs for blueberry and watermelon pod products that work exclusively with the 2.0 device. These submissions mark further milestones in pursuit of our vision and Enjoy looks forward to responsibly providing flavored e vapor options for adult smokers and vapers once authorized. Enjoy's momentum and the results are even more encouraging in the context of the broader e vapor category, which continues to be overrun by illicit disposable products due to a lack of effective regulation and enforcement. At the end of the second quarter, we estimate the e vapor category included approximately 19,000,000 vapers, up over 3,000,000 vapers versus a year ago. Speaker 200:10:01During the same period, disposable vapers increased by 4,000,000 to approximately 12,000,000 vapers. Through the first half of twenty twenty four, we estimate the category grew by approximately 40%, driven by illicit flavored disposable products, which we believe now represent more than 60% of the category. We estimate pod based volumes declined by approximately 15% in the first half of twenty twenty four and now represents approximately 15% of category volumes. We are beginning to see the robust supply chains and lack of enforcement that supports the illicit e vapor market enable increased illicit activity across multiple tobacco categories, including nicotine pouches and cigarettes that are available to U. S. Speaker 200:11:00Consumers. In fact, we've identified more than 350 illicit nicotine PalskUs across both retail and e commerce with new brands launching every month. This illicit market echoes the beginning of the illicit e vapor market several years ago. In addition, we believe illicit cigarettes are becoming more prevalent in the U. S. Speaker 200:11:31And are evading regulation and taxation. We periodically conduct discarded pack studies in select geographic markets. One such study in California found more than 25% of discarded cigarette packs were non domestic products, originating primarily from duty free channels and China. The FDA's inaction, lack of enforcement and slow pace of smoke free authorizations continues to enable bad actors who are blatantly disregarding regulations. For our part, we continue to actively engage with regulators, federal and state lawmakers, our trade partners and other stakeholders to build awareness of these issues and drive marketplace enforcement. Speaker 200:12:29This month, we sent the FDA data that supports our increasing concern that illicit market actors are expanding into the nicotine pouch category. Our hope is that this information demonstrates the need for the FDA to direct enforcement actions against illicit nicotine pouch products in addition to illicit e vapor products. We believe it is critical that the FDA acts decisively to regain control over the oral nicotine pouch category to prevent another widespread illicit market from taking hold. At the federal level, we saw some positive actions in the Q2. For example, in June, the Justice Department and the FDA announced the creation of a federal multi agency task force, which is expected to coordinate and streamline efforts to bring all available criminal and civil tools to bear against the illegal distribution and sale of e vapor products. Speaker 200:13:36We have been advocating for multi agency collaboration and view this announcement as a much needed course correction for enforcement efforts. In addition, we continue to see other actions at the federal level, including e vapor related import refusals, civil monetary penalties and warning letters issued to manufacturers, retailers and wholesalers of illicit products. In the absence of effective FDA enforcement today, many states are stepping up to address this issue. As of today, 11 states have passed legislation requiring manufacturers to certify that they are compliant with FDA requirements and 4 states are considering similar legislation. Enforcement has started in 4 states with the balance set to begin in the second half of twenty twenty four 2025. Speaker 200:14:40When properly implemented and comprehensively enforced, we believe state registry bills can be effective. We continue to believe in the promise of a responsible and fully regulated tobacco industry. As we stated in the past, regulation without enforcement is indistinguishable from no regulation at all. We're hopeful to see more meaningful action and enforcement activity over the next year. Let's turn back to the oral tobacco category, where oral nicotine pouches grew 12.3 share points year over year and now represent nearly 42% of the category. Speaker 200:15:27Oral nicotine pouches were the primary contributor of the estimated 9% increase in oral tobacco industry volume over the past 6 months. Helix participated in the category growth, growing on reported shipment volume by 37% to 41,000,000 cans during the Q2. Helix continues to invest strategically and responsibly behind ON. This spring, Helix launched a new trade program that secured the number one retail fixture position for nearly 80% of ON's volume, creating broader visibility of the ON brand. And in June, Helix introduced a fresh new look for ON packaging and a new equity campaign. Speaker 200:16:18It's on to further differentiate the brand. Encouragingly, we saw consistent ON share momentum throughout the quarter. ON's retail share grew in each of the past 3 months to 8.1% for the quarter, an increase of 1.2 share points versus the prior year and a 1 share point sequentially. Helix remains focused on long term profitability and delivered these impressive results while reducing on promotional spending year over year. We are very excited about the prospects and potential for On Plus, an innovative pouch product made using a proprietary soft film material, which is designed for adults who dip and dual users with cigarettes. Speaker 200:17:12Early international results continue to show that Olin plus is a growing competitive player in the nicotine pouch space in Sweden and the United Kingdom. In both markets, 1 plus has been incremental to our total portfolio, sourcing mainly from competitive brands with minimal cannibalization. In Sweden, levels of trial are increasing and e commerce repurchase rates are strong above 30%. Supported by these results, we expanded OwnPlus distribution beyond e commerce into 2,000 key retail accounts in Sweden, including Circle K and ICA. In the UK, following the launch of On plus the On portfolio is the number 2 brand in the e commerce. Speaker 200:18:08And Helix recently secured Orm plus distribution in 1,000 retail stores. Consumer feedback indicates that consumers enjoy the innovative Foam Plus Pouch and view it as a unique point of differentiation in the category. Turning back to the U. S. Market, Helix submitted PMTAs to the FDA for ORION plus in June. Speaker 200:18:37The PMTAs were submitted for 3 varieties: tobacco, mint and winigrain, each in 3 different nicotine strength options. We believe our innovation in the nicotine pouch space can be a meaningful contributor to our smoke free goals once authorized in the U. S. In summary, it was an exciting quarter for Altria. We made significant progress toward our vision with in market products and achieved important milestones to prepare for future success. Speaker 200:19:13We're confident in the long term outlook for our smoke free portfolio and we have a significant opportunity to responsibly lead the transition of adult smokers to a smoke free future. I believe we have the appropriate strategies in place to execute our growth plans and I want to thank all of our employees who continue to work tirelessly to make our vision become a reality. I'll now turn it over to Sal to provide more detail on the business environment and our results. Thanks, Billy. Adjusted diluted earnings per share was unchanged in the 2nd quarter and declined by 1.6% for the first half. Speaker 300:20:00Our first half results were consistent with our expectations. For 2024, adjusted diluted EPS growth weighted to the second half due to the timing of the Enjoy acquisition in June 2023 and the impact of 2 additional shipping days in the second half of the year. Therefore, we are narrowing our full year 2024 guidance range and now expect to deliver adjusted diluted EPS in a range of $5.07 to $5.15 representing a growth rate of 2.5% to 4% from a base of $4.95 in 2023. Let's turn to an update on consumer and industry dynamics. Cigarette industry shipment volumes remain pressured during the 2nd quarter and first half due primarily to macroeconomic factors and the growth of illegal disposable e vapor products. Speaker 300:21:07While the rate of inflation has stabilized in recent months, we believe adult smokers remain under economic pressure as the cumulative impacts from prolonged inflation persists and constrained discretionary spending. Late last year, we shared our estimate that the growth of illegal disposable e vapor products contributed to cigarette industry declines in a range of 1.5% to 2.5% and committed to continue evaluating this dynamic trend. As we've continued to see elevated growth of illicit e vapor due to lack of enforcement, we believe that cross category movement has been higher in recent quarters than our previously estimated range. We estimate that cross category movement from cigarettes, primarily to illicit disposable e vapor products, contributed an estimated 2% to 3% of the cigarette industry decline over the last 12 months and have reflected these updates in our decomposition of cigarette industry decline rates. We will continue to monitor the illicit e vapor market and provide updates as we enhance our estimates in this space. Speaker 300:22:32In the smokeable product segment, our strategy continues to be to maximize profitability over the long term, while appropriately balancing investments in Marlboro with funding the growth of smoke free products. Segment adjusted operating companies income declined by 2% to $2,800,000,000 in the 2nd quarter and by 2.3 percent to $5,300,000,000 in the first half. As we look to the second half of the year, in addition to the 2 additional shipping days, I'll remind you of the expiration of legal fund payments related to the master settlement agreement in the Q4, which we previously disclosed in our 2023 10 ks. Adjusted OCI margins expanded to 61.6 percent for the 2nd quarter and 61% for the first half. This performance was supported by strong net price realization of 9.9% for the quarter and 9.3% for the first half. Speaker 300:23:44Marlboro continued to be the undisputed category leader with a retail share of 42% in the 2nd quarter, down 0.1% versus the prior year and unchanged sequentially. Within the premium segment, Marlboro expanded its share to 59.4%, an increase of 0.7 share points versus the prior year and 0.1% sequentially. Smokeable Products segment reported domestic cigarette volumes declined by 13% in the 2nd quarter and 11.5% for the first half. When adjusted for trade inventory movements, smokeable products segment domestic cigarette volumes for the 2nd quarter and the first half declined by an estimated 11% and 10.5% respectively. At the industry level, when adjusted for trade inventory movements, 2nd quarter domestic cigarette volumes declined by an estimated 9.5%. Speaker 300:24:52For the first half, when adjusted for trade inventory movements and other factors, we estimate that adjusted domestic cigarette industry volumes declined by 9%. The discount segment grew 1 share point year over year and 0.2% sequentially in the Q2. We believe these results were driven in part by macroeconomic pressures on adult smokers and competitive activity. In cigars, reported shipment volume decreased 0.9% in the 2nd quarter. Middleton continued to contribute to smokeable products segment financial results and Black and Mild remained the leader the highly profitable machine made large cigar segment. Speaker 300:25:43Moving to the Oral Tobacco Products segment, adjusted OCI grew by 1.8% in the 2nd quarter and 3.1% for the first half. Adjusted OCI margins decreased by 2.4 percentage points for the 2nd quarter and 1.2 percentage points for the first half, as Helix continued to invest in the growing oral nicotine pouch category. Reported shipment volume 1.8% for the 2nd quarter and 2.5% for the first half as ON's growth was more than offset by lower MSD volumes. When adjusted for calendar differences and trade inventory movements, We estimate that second quarter and first half oral tobacco product segment volumes declined by approximately 3% and 3.5% respectively. Oral Tobacco Products segment retail share was 37.9% for both the Q2 and first half as declines in our MST brands were partially offset by the growth of ON. Speaker 300:26:59Evolving consumer preferences and the accelerated growth of oral nicotine pouches have continued to impact MSP products. As a result, we determined that the estimated fair value of the Skol trademark at June 30, 2024 was below its carrying value and recorded a non cash pre tax impairment of $354,000,000 Despite this, we remain encouraged by the resilience of Copenhagen, the long standing number one brand in MST and the continued growth of Bond in nicotine pouches, which surpassed Skol to become our 2nd largest oral tobacco brand at retail. Turning to ABI's financial results, we recorded $145,000,000 of adjusted equity earnings for the prior year. As a reminder, we use the equity method of accounting for investment in ABI and report our share of ABI's results using a 1 quarter lag. Accordingly, our 2nd quarter adjusted equity earnings represent our share of ABI's 1st quarter earnings, reduced by our lower ownership percentage following the partial sale of our ABI investment which occurred late in the Q1. Speaker 300:28:32Lastly, on capital allocation, we returned significant value to shareholders during the first half of the year, Supported by the partial sale of our investment in ABI, we returned $2,400,000,000 to shareholders through an accelerated share repurchase program, which was completed during the Q2. At the end of the quarter, we had approximately $1,000,000,000 remaining under our currently authorized share repurchase program, which we expect to complete by the end of this year. We also paid $3,400,000,000 in dividends, resulting in total cash returned to shareholders of $5,800,000,000 for the first half. Our balance sheet remains strong. Our debt to EBITDA ratio as of June 30 was 2.1 times, in line with our capital structure goal of approximately 2 times. Speaker 300:29:33As we continue to execute on our vision, we remain committed to creating long term value for our shareholders and maintaining a strong balance sheet. With that, we'll wrap up and Billy and I will be happy to take your questions. While the calls are being compiled, I'll remind you that today's earnings release and our non GAAP reconciliations are available on altria.com. We've also posted our usual quarterly metrics, which include pricing, inventory and other items. Let's open the question and answer period. Speaker 300:30:12Operator, do we have any questions? Operator00:30:16Thank you. Participate in the question and answer session. And our first question will come from the line of Bonnie Herzog with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Thank you. Operator00:30:40Good morning, everyone. I Speaker 400:30:43had a question on your guidance this morning. You narrowed your EPS guidance, but that implies the midpoint stays the same. And it does suggest a decent step up of growth in the back half. So I guess I'm wondering what some of the drivers of that growth will be and ultimately, how much visibility do you have on this given what really has been a challenging environment? And then how should we think about the implied back half EPS growth, especially given the investments you have been making behind Smoke Free? Speaker 400:31:18And will those ramp or are they going to slow down in the back half? Thank you for that. Speaker 300:31:24Sure. Good morning, Bonnie. As you said, we were able to narrow guidance. Our EPS for the first half was in line with our expectations. As far as the second half, let me point to a few factors. Speaker 300:31:40Remember, we're lapping the acquisition of Enjoy, which occurred in June of last year. We also have 2 extra shipping days and there are a couple of other items I'll point out. The benefit of our accelerated share repurchase program is back half weighted. And then, as I mentioned earlier, there'll be the expiration of the legal fund, which is part of our MSA cost and that expires in the Q4 of this year. Speaker 400:32:10Okay. Thank you. So it sounds like all right, that's helpful. And then I guess my second question would be on your smokeable segment. Despite expanding op margins, which have been quite impressive, your dollar profits didn't increase again in the quarter. Speaker 400:32:26And really this has been a concern. Obviously, the sharp sig volume declines continue to weigh on your top line despite what I would characterize as robust net price realization. But what about the controllable costs in the quarter, which were up high single digits? Could you talk a little bit more about maybe the drivers behind these costs? And then ultimately, going back to your EPS guidance, does that imply that your smokeable profits are expected to grow this year? Speaker 400:32:58Or are you just assuming flat profitability and you can still hit your EPS guidance without smokeable profits growing? Thank you. Speaker 300:33:09Yes, there's a lot to unpack. So I want to make sure I get to all your questions, Bonnie. If I don't, please follow-up. I'm going to work a little bit backwards. So let's talk about Smokeable for a minute. Speaker 300:33:21Remember, we are managing that business to maximize profitability and balance investments behind Marlboro and our smoke free products. And we're really pleased with the strong net price realization. We're pleased with the strong margin performance. But during economic difficult times for our consumers, we are going to support them. And we're doing that, I think, pretty effectively through our RGM strategies, which include investments in Marlboro Black. Speaker 300:33:51In the second half of the year, there are some tailwinds that we expect to see. Some I've already mentioned, right, the 2 extra shipping days that occur in the back half of the year, the expiration of the legal fund in the 4th quarter. We'll also be lapping the who are facing difficult economic times and maybe more price sensitive. So we feel really good about the progress in the smokeable segment and the progress going forward with that as well. So that's to the smokeable segment. Speaker 300:34:32As far as the back half of the year, I think I've talked to you about and talked about the individual items that were that will be tailwinds to our EPS growth in the back half of the year. But we don't manage the business quarter to quarter. We are managing it for the long term and we're really pleased with the financial progress. But volumes are down and that will drive controllable costs up on a per pack basis. And part of margin growth is both pricing and effective cost management. Speaker 300:35:12There are a couple of items that we've mentioned. So we have a base inflation rate for MSA of at least 3%. And then I talked about this last quarter and it disproportionately hit the Q1, but industry profits from a leading competitor are lower than expected. So that is driving some of our MSA costs. But again, our folks do a great job of using technology, thinking about better ways of continuing to execute our strategy and then having flexibility where we could manage costs between smokeable and then use that infrastructure in our newer products. Speaker 300:35:55And I think you've seen the strong results in our innovative smoke free products. Speaker 500:36:02On. Operator00:36:06Our next question will come from Matt Smith with Stifel. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:36:11Hi, good morning and thank you for taking my question. Speaker 200:36:14Good morning, Matt. Speaker 600:36:15I want to tie together a few comments from the prepared remarks. The impact of cross category movement on the cigarette industry decline rate is now higher. That's you talked about that being largely driven by the growth in illicit vapor products. So as enforcement steps up, albeit with a limited impact to the broader market today, can you talk about how adult consumers are reacting in terms of switching to compliant products in vapor or the impact to the cross category headwind where you are seeing some progress on those enforcement efforts? Speaker 200:36:49Yes. And that is a key point that you point out, Matt. I think when you think about it, when we talk about continued momentum building, that momentum is really around awareness. And I think we have their attention. We need to translate that momentum and awareness to momentum and action. Speaker 200:37:07And so, yes, there are some limited that have been taking place, but they need to step up significantly. What you saw in that increase in category movement to illicit vape is the prevalence of the illicit vape in the marketplace. Just to give you an example, you heard a store mentioned at the hearing on Capitol Hill with the FDA and DOJ. We sent a representative in this week and those illicit tapes are still available and they were able to purchase it. So then we sent them into stores around the FDA headquarters. Speaker 200:37:39And within the shadow of the FDA headquarters, we found at least 5 stores where illicit vapes are prevalent and readily available. So it's one thing to drive momentum and awareness, we need momentum in action. Speaker 600:37:55Thank you, Billy. And maybe just as a follow-up, specifically in Louisiana, which I believe is a state where you have a longer period of time where there's been enforcement, did you see adult tobacco users stay within their existing categories, meaning e vapor? Or did you see consumers shift between categories as enforcement stepped up? Speaker 200:38:20Yeah, we've seen some enforcement there. Remember, they started enforcing right away in Louisiana, and then there was a TRO, a restraining order that put it on hold. What we did see as far as early trends, and again, I call them early because we need to see continued enforcement, is that in the multi outlet convenience channel, we did see authorized products go up as far as that. The illicit products went virtually to 0 and then we did see a slight difference in cigarette volume declines. But what we see is because of the lack of enforcement across the U. Speaker 200:38:56S. Is that once entrenched those supply chains and you heard in the remarks, we're seeing it now that the supply chains have been established, the bad actors are putting more products through that same supply chain. So we need a concerted effort across the U. S. But those were the early trends we saw in Louisiana. Speaker 600:39:17Thank you, Billy. I'll pass it on. Operator00:39:22Our next question will come from Calum Elliott with Bernstein. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:39:30Hi, good morning guys. Good morning. Maybe I can start by building on building on Matt's question. Just wondering if you could give us an idea, I think you had mentioned in the prepared remarks, 11 states have passed measures, but only 4 have actually sort of enforced those measures or enacted the measures so far. Of the 7 where we're still waiting for enactment in the back half of this year and twenty twenty five, what proportion of U. Speaker 700:39:58S. Cigarette volumes roughly do those 7 states represent, Billy? Speaker 200:40:02Yes, I don't have that number off the top of my head, Calum. I'll make sure IR follows up as far as percent of cigarette volume and e vapor volume. The point you highlight is that I think they're trying to be disciplined and think about a total enforcement approach in these states. And that's why we see a bit of delay in the implementation of it. But I think it's an important step. Speaker 200:40:24Once they get the enforcement in place and really hold manufacturers accountable to it, we think they can have an impact. We would like to see this happen across the U. S. And at the federal level. Speaker 700:40:39Okay. And maybe this segues nicely there then. Obviously, we've got a U. S. Election later this year. Speaker 700:40:46And whatever happens, we're going to have a new president now. So my question is, are there legislative measures that could help with this problem and that we could maybe expect to see accelerate after the election? Or do you think this has to sort Speaker 600:41:01of remain in the hands of the FDA? Speaker 200:41:04Yes. I think to your point, regardless of the outcome of the election, we'll certainly have a new administration. We really engage on both sides of the aisle and intend to work with either administration that comes in place. I think the focus will be that the right approach is harm reduction. But to have a fruitful harm reduction, you need both authorizations for legitimate smoke free products and enforcement for illicit products. Speaker 200:41:30And that prohibition is not the proper framework. And so they really need to focus on restoring. We think the FDA has all the tools necessary and partnering with the other federal agencies, they just need to take action. But certainly, we will never turn down a legislative approach. We'll continue to propose approaches that we think could be effective, but we think the tools are there already. Speaker 700:41:55Okay, great. And maybe final one, shifting gears a little bit. Incredibly encouraging, enjoy device share that you shared in the slides up at 25%, so very big sequential step up. You spoke on in your remarks really about how you think that could maybe be a leading indicator of consumable share. I guess my question is, can you talk about any recent data that you have on conversion? Speaker 700:42:21Like what do the rates of conversion look like for EnjoyACE? And what proportion of people trialing the product actually do convert in your experience? Speaker 200:42:30Yes. It's early on yet, Colm, as we've repositioned EnjoyA at retail, given a greater visibility and really have both equity, a new equity campaign highlighting the benefits of Enjoy over the consumer can have. I understand your question and we'll be sure to share those when we feel like we have enough data on hand to be able to project those. Operator00:43:00Our next question will come from Faham Beygh with UBS. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:43:06Good morning, gents. A couple from me as well. Firstly, I wanted to get your thoughts on the ABI stake and the credit rating given Fish Ratings' recent comments. I guess there are 2 questions within this. Firstly, how important is the current investment grade credit rating to you? Speaker 800:43:29And secondly, could this mean a further stake sell is unlikely in the net term? And then the second question, given it is proving quite a challenge to control these new alternative nicotine products and as you suggested prohibition isn't valid, it shouldn't be valid. A large part of this expansion of illicit products has probably been due to the rapid evolution of these categories. And there are many factors that clearly weren't considered at the time these regulations were formed. For example, synthetic nicotine, non nicotine products, WS3, etcetera, which has probably created an unequal playing field. Speaker 800:44:16I wanted to get your view on what options do you believe authorities have to evolve regulation? And do you believe it is feasible to reset the deeming regulation date to permit new products as the industry seeks greater adoption of smoke free products? Speaker 300:44:35Let me start with your question on the credit rating in ABI, and then I'll turn it over to Billy. So first, look, we believe it's in the best interest of our shareholders to manage a strong balance sheet. And an investment grade credit rating is important because from time to time, we do enter the commercial paper market as our cash outflows vary over the course of the year. You pay MSA in April and things like that. But if you look at our history and our allocation of resources and capital, we've taken a very balanced approach. Speaker 300:45:17We have really strong cash generative operating companies. After paying the dividend to our shareholders, we generally have over $1,000,000,000 in excess cash and we're able to deploy that in a number of ways. In the past, we've deployed it through share repurchase. We have managed our maturity towers. We've paid off debt that is coming due. Speaker 300:45:39So and we were able to provide in our corporate goals, some a little bit of transparency related to our leverage goal of 2 to 1. So obviously, managing the strength of our balance sheet remains strong. As far as the ABI asset, there's really no change to how we view that asset. It's a financial asset. We think about it through the lens of Voucher shareholder and long term shareholder value. Speaker 300:46:07So really no change to that at Speaker 200:46:11Yeah. And following up on your question about potential enforcement actions, we do believe they can bring the market back to order. Some of the things that we've mentioned to the FDA and letters to them, just to give you a flavor of what we think they can do, the FDA really hasn't taken any action against either in the form of litigation or civil monetary penalties against the largest illicit vapor manufacturers or the U. S.-based distributors. If you think about U. Speaker 200:46:41S.-based distributors, the litigation, the distributors have assets that can be seized. If you think about holding these illicit actors either civilly or criminally accountable for the activities they have in the marketplace. They can put all known illicit products on a list that customs should prevent from entering the borders and impose the civil monetary penalties that they have at the maximum levels, not just warning letters. And like I mentioned earlier to Matt, following up on warning letters, here there was a store pointed out to them in a congressional hearing and the illicit paper products are still available there at that store. So there are some simple things and then there are some that require this multi agency collaboration, but we believe could be effective. Speaker 200:47:32You mentioned synthetic nicotine. Just take the prevalence we're starting to see in nicotine pouch. When that statute was passed to give the FDA authorization over synthetic nicotine, it said any product that did not receive authorization and it gave a deadline that wasn't authorized was no longer legally should be legally available on the market. But we're seeing, I mentioned, 350 SKUs and more each month. Just a matter of enforcement and holding people accountable to the regulation. Speaker 800:48:08Thanks, Billy. Speaker 200:48:13Thank you. Operator00:48:15Our next question will come from Rob Bain with Barclays. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:48:22Hi, good morning. Three questions from me. So the first is on the industry volume declines, which remain weak, but they are weak at a constant level, while we are seeing other parts of consumer weaken sequentially. So is it fair to say that you are maybe seeing some green shoots and your key competitor was highlighting that they are beginning to see industry volume trends improve. Is that something you are seeing? Speaker 200:48:55I think you could highlight I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. I think you could highlight some green shoots. I think when you think about it, it is certainly we've seen like let's just use inflation as one. We've seen inflation lessening, but it's not the matter of a quarter to quarter inflation. It's really a matter of the cumulative inflation that takes place. Speaker 200:49:15And so the green shoots from a standpoint is you need some time of a steady marketplace for the consumer to adapt to their new conditions. And we tried to highlight that for a couple of quarters. So we're seeing some green shoots. You highlighted the kind of a more steady decline, but then we highlighted just the opposite with illicit vape, where we're seeing increased consumers moving over because of the plethora of those products in the marketplace and being readily available. So yes, there are some green shoots that we're seeing in the economics. Speaker 900:49:52Sure. My second question is on this MSA legal bill, which the industry pays $500,000,000 max cap, which will, I guess, run out by the end of this year. So can you just help us think about the benefit to you in Q4 this year and then further in 2025? Speaker 300:50:14Yes, sure. You are correct. The total legal fund is about $500,000,000 We pay our fair share of that based on shipments and you'll get a quarter of that this year and the remaining 3 quarters in 2025. Speaker 900:50:34Sure. Okay. And my last question is on leaf costs. So your key competitor was highlighting that leaf costs inflation, which was almost low double digit in 1H is going to be lower in 2H and then unwind completely in FY 2025. So is that something you are also seeing and will that also be a benefit as we look ahead for the next 18 months? Speaker 300:50:59Yes. Well, look, we engage with domestic growers, primarily their fantastic business partners. They work really hard to provide us with high quality leaf. You are seeing some inflation in the leaf costs. Their labor costs are up, fuel costs are up, obviously. Speaker 300:51:23We're blending multiple years of leaf in our product. And as some of those economic factors move, it could influence our leave costs. We're very fortunate in our businesses is that our cost of goods are fairly low for our products. We have high margins. In the cigarette category, as an example, it's really MSA, FET, fees like that that are the primary cost drivers in the cigarette business. Speaker 300:51:54But we have a terrific department that engages with our growers and they do a fantastic job of getting high quality leaf at a competitive price and they'll continue to do that work. Speaker 900:52:10Thank you so much. Speaker 700:52:11You're welcome. Operator00:52:14And our next question will come from Owen Bennett with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:52:21Good morning, gents. Hope all well. A couple of questions from me. And the first one relates to industry wholesale shipments. So there appears to be a sizable inventory headwind in the first half such that we've got cigarette industry shipments down close to 12% versus the adjusted decline of around 9%. Speaker 500:52:41There also seems to be a similar dynamic at play in traditional smokers. So my question is, as we continue to see the shift over in new RFPs and more shelf space allocated to these products, Can we expect this inventory dynamic to be an ongoing trend, so where shipment trends are worse than in market trends? Or do you think this will start to unwind at some point? Speaker 200:53:04Yes. Thanks for the question, Owen. I think you highlighted inventories. And when you think about inventories, I would just encourage you to look at them a bit more longer term in the quarter. Certainly from a standpoint of overall inventories, they tend to balance through time. Speaker 200:53:20But as we see volume declines, certainly through time, you would expect some decrease in inventories commensurate with the decrease in volume, but that's more of a kind of a trend to trend basis. They're very similar. I think also I would highlight you highlighted wholesale inventory included in there is some retail inventory. I do think as we've seen the plethora of illicit vapes, as we see some capital allocated by retailers into the illicit vape category. Speaker 500:53:51Okay, thanks. And then just my second question is on RRP internationally. Well, two questions here. Do you have market share estimates for ON in Enjoy or even SWIC internationally at any point over the next 12 months as this could clearly be a way to offset some of the U. S. Speaker 500:54:13Pressures? So at least on the top line is obviously there'd be additional spend involved with this. Thank you. Speaker 200:54:19Yes. As far as ON in Sweden in the U. K, we haven't disclosed market share. We're still in the early stages of that. We tried to highlight some of the repeat purchases and some of the increased distribution. Speaker 200:54:30So we'll get a little traction there and then we'll be able to share those. I think as far as Enjoy, you see the activity in the U. S. With illicit vape. I think as you look at least in the European community, it's a very similar type of situation taking place with a plethora of illicit vapes there as well. Speaker 200:54:50Some countries are looking to try to garner and take control of that illicit vape market. So we'll see how that plays out. Our focus for Enjoy right now is we feel like there's a huge opportunity here in the U. S. And that's where our focus is. Speaker 200:55:04And then as far as SWIC, we mentioned some learning that we would have as we approach year end. And so we'll share more about that as we get closer. Speaker 500:55:16Well, thanks very much. Appreciate your time. Speaker 200:55:18Thank you. 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There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Altria Group 20 24 Second Quarter and First Half Earnings Conference Call. Today's call is scheduled to last about 1 hour, including remarks by Altria's management and a question and answer session, representatives of the investment community and media on the call will be able to ask questions following the conclusion of the prepared remarks. I would now like to turn the call over to Mac Livingston, Vice President of Investor Relations for Altria Client Services. Please go ahead, sir. Speaker 100:00:28Thanks, Savannah. Good morning, and thank you for joining us. This morning, Billy Gifford, Altria's CEO and Sal Mancuso, our CFO, will discuss Altria's 2nd quarter and first half business results. Earlier today, we issued a press release providing our results. The release, presentation, quarterly metrics and our latest corporate responsibility reports are all available at altria.com. Speaker 100:00:56During our call today, unless otherwise stated, we're comparing results to the same period in 2023. Our remarks contain forward looking and cautionary statements and projections of future results. Please review the forward looking and cautionary statement section at the end of today's earnings release for various factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from projections. Future dividend payments and share repurchases remain subject to the discretion of our Board of Directors. We report our financial results in accordance with U. Speaker 100:01:33S. Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. Today's call will contain various operating results on both a reported and adjusted basis. Adjusted results exclude special items that affect comparisons with reported results. Descriptions of these non GAAP financial measures and reconciliations are included in today's earnings release and on our website at altria.com. Speaker 100:02:01Finally, all references in today's remarks to tobacco consumers or consumers within a specific tobacco category or segment refer to existing adult tobacco consumers 21 years of age or older. With that, I'll turn the call over to Billy. Speaker 200:02:20Thanks, Mac. Good morning and thank you for joining us. Altria's momentum continues to build as we pursue our vision to responsibly lead the transition of adult smokers to a smoke free future. In the Q2, our company's innovative smoke free products delivered strong share and volume performance. And we hit meaningful milestones that we believe set us up for future success. Speaker 200:02:49Enjoy received the first and only marketing granted orders from the FDA for menthol e vapor products. And we submitted PMTA applications to the FDA for next generation Enjoy and on products. Our traditional tobacco businesses remain resilient despite a challenging operating environment. Our highly cash generative businesses supported continued investments in our innovative products efforts, and we returned significant value to shareholders during the first half of the year. With more than $5,800,000,000 delivered to shareholders through share repurchases and dividends. Speaker 200:03:35And we believe our dedicated teams have us on track to deliver against full year financial guidance. This morning, my remarks will focus on Enjoy's encouraging second quarter results. The state of the e vapor category, illicit market activity and enforcement actions and strong second quarter results from 1. I'll then turn it over to Sal, who will provide further detail on our financial results, including our outlook, the performance of our traditional tobacco businesses and capital allocation. Let's begin with the e vapor category. Speaker 200:04:19In June, we celebrated the 1 year anniversary of welcoming Enjoy into the Altria family of companies. Since that time, we've combined our industry leading capabilities with Injoy's competitive product offering and are thrilled with the progress we've made. Let me briefly recap some of our accomplishments. We strengthened Enjoy's supply chain to enable our expansion plans tripled Enjoy's retail footprint to over 100,000 stores, secured premium positioning at retail in more than 80% of contracted stores through Enjoy's First Trade program, launched a variety of trial generating activities with compelling results and introduced a new brand equity campaign with impactful consumer messaging. As a result of these efforts, Enjoy saw continued traction at retail during the 2nd quarter and first half as evidenced by volume momentum and share growth. Speaker 200:05:30Enjoy consumables shipment volume was approximately 12,500,000 units for the 2nd quarter and 23,400,000 units for the first half. And device shipment volume was approximately 1,800,000 units for the Q2 and 2,800,000 units for the first half. Both consumable and device shipment volumes increased sequentially with consumables increasing by 14.7% and devices by 80%. To generate trial in the 2nd quarter, Enjoy paired equity messaging about its attractive product proposition with promotional support and saw compelling results at retail. For the Q2, Enjoy's retail share of consumables was 5.5 share points, up 1.3 share points sequentially. Speaker 200:06:30Enjoy's retail share of consumables grew in each of the past 9 months. We're also encouraged by Enjoys device share, which we believe is an important indicator of trial and a potential leading indicator of longer term adoption. As a result of trial focused investments, in the Q2, Enjoy expanded its share of devices in the multi outlet and convenience channel to 25.4 share points, more than doubling its share of devices sequentially. We plan to continue investing behind Enjoy's value proposition Enjoy's value proposition and equity to build awareness and generate trial. At retail, approximately 2 thirds of fixture resets are now complete, and we've amplified Enjoy's visibility and secured premium positioning through its trade program. Speaker 200:07:31Enjoy is also reaching increased numbers of adult consumers through its events infrastructure and digital marketing programs. Through these engagements and Enjoy's equity campaign, we can continue to position Enjoy as a competitive alternative for adult smokers and vapers to responsibly grow Enjoy over the long term. On the regulatory front, in June, Enjoy received marketing granted orders from the FDA for 4 menthol e vapor products. Enjoy has the 1st and only menthol e vapor products authorized by the FDA, a significant accomplishment for the Injoy team and a testament to the quality of Injoy's robust science and evidence based applications. Under the terms of our acquisition of Injoy, upon receiving these authorizations, we made cash payments totaling $250,000,000 in July. Speaker 200:08:38Now all in market Enjoy products are covered by marketing granted orders from the FDA. In addition, Injoy submitted a supplemental PMTA to the FDA to commercialize and market the Injoy ACE 2.0 device, which incorporates access restriction technology designed to prevent underage resubmitted PMTAs for blueberry and watermelon pod products that work exclusively with the 2.0 device. These submissions mark further milestones in pursuit of our vision and Enjoy looks forward to responsibly providing flavored e vapor options for adult smokers and vapers once authorized. Enjoy's momentum and the results are even more encouraging in the context of the broader e vapor category, which continues to be overrun by illicit disposable products due to a lack of effective regulation and enforcement. At the end of the second quarter, we estimate the e vapor category included approximately 19,000,000 vapers, up over 3,000,000 vapers versus a year ago. Speaker 200:10:01During the same period, disposable vapers increased by 4,000,000 to approximately 12,000,000 vapers. Through the first half of twenty twenty four, we estimate the category grew by approximately 40%, driven by illicit flavored disposable products, which we believe now represent more than 60% of the category. We estimate pod based volumes declined by approximately 15% in the first half of twenty twenty four and now represents approximately 15% of category volumes. We are beginning to see the robust supply chains and lack of enforcement that supports the illicit e vapor market enable increased illicit activity across multiple tobacco categories, including nicotine pouches and cigarettes that are available to U. S. Speaker 200:11:00Consumers. In fact, we've identified more than 350 illicit nicotine PalskUs across both retail and e commerce with new brands launching every month. This illicit market echoes the beginning of the illicit e vapor market several years ago. In addition, we believe illicit cigarettes are becoming more prevalent in the U. S. Speaker 200:11:31And are evading regulation and taxation. We periodically conduct discarded pack studies in select geographic markets. One such study in California found more than 25% of discarded cigarette packs were non domestic products, originating primarily from duty free channels and China. The FDA's inaction, lack of enforcement and slow pace of smoke free authorizations continues to enable bad actors who are blatantly disregarding regulations. For our part, we continue to actively engage with regulators, federal and state lawmakers, our trade partners and other stakeholders to build awareness of these issues and drive marketplace enforcement. Speaker 200:12:29This month, we sent the FDA data that supports our increasing concern that illicit market actors are expanding into the nicotine pouch category. Our hope is that this information demonstrates the need for the FDA to direct enforcement actions against illicit nicotine pouch products in addition to illicit e vapor products. We believe it is critical that the FDA acts decisively to regain control over the oral nicotine pouch category to prevent another widespread illicit market from taking hold. At the federal level, we saw some positive actions in the Q2. For example, in June, the Justice Department and the FDA announced the creation of a federal multi agency task force, which is expected to coordinate and streamline efforts to bring all available criminal and civil tools to bear against the illegal distribution and sale of e vapor products. Speaker 200:13:36We have been advocating for multi agency collaboration and view this announcement as a much needed course correction for enforcement efforts. In addition, we continue to see other actions at the federal level, including e vapor related import refusals, civil monetary penalties and warning letters issued to manufacturers, retailers and wholesalers of illicit products. In the absence of effective FDA enforcement today, many states are stepping up to address this issue. As of today, 11 states have passed legislation requiring manufacturers to certify that they are compliant with FDA requirements and 4 states are considering similar legislation. Enforcement has started in 4 states with the balance set to begin in the second half of twenty twenty four 2025. Speaker 200:14:40When properly implemented and comprehensively enforced, we believe state registry bills can be effective. We continue to believe in the promise of a responsible and fully regulated tobacco industry. As we stated in the past, regulation without enforcement is indistinguishable from no regulation at all. We're hopeful to see more meaningful action and enforcement activity over the next year. Let's turn back to the oral tobacco category, where oral nicotine pouches grew 12.3 share points year over year and now represent nearly 42% of the category. Speaker 200:15:27Oral nicotine pouches were the primary contributor of the estimated 9% increase in oral tobacco industry volume over the past 6 months. Helix participated in the category growth, growing on reported shipment volume by 37% to 41,000,000 cans during the Q2. Helix continues to invest strategically and responsibly behind ON. This spring, Helix launched a new trade program that secured the number one retail fixture position for nearly 80% of ON's volume, creating broader visibility of the ON brand. And in June, Helix introduced a fresh new look for ON packaging and a new equity campaign. Speaker 200:16:18It's on to further differentiate the brand. Encouragingly, we saw consistent ON share momentum throughout the quarter. ON's retail share grew in each of the past 3 months to 8.1% for the quarter, an increase of 1.2 share points versus the prior year and a 1 share point sequentially. Helix remains focused on long term profitability and delivered these impressive results while reducing on promotional spending year over year. We are very excited about the prospects and potential for On Plus, an innovative pouch product made using a proprietary soft film material, which is designed for adults who dip and dual users with cigarettes. Speaker 200:17:12Early international results continue to show that Olin plus is a growing competitive player in the nicotine pouch space in Sweden and the United Kingdom. In both markets, 1 plus has been incremental to our total portfolio, sourcing mainly from competitive brands with minimal cannibalization. In Sweden, levels of trial are increasing and e commerce repurchase rates are strong above 30%. Supported by these results, we expanded OwnPlus distribution beyond e commerce into 2,000 key retail accounts in Sweden, including Circle K and ICA. In the UK, following the launch of On plus the On portfolio is the number 2 brand in the e commerce. Speaker 200:18:08And Helix recently secured Orm plus distribution in 1,000 retail stores. Consumer feedback indicates that consumers enjoy the innovative Foam Plus Pouch and view it as a unique point of differentiation in the category. Turning back to the U. S. Market, Helix submitted PMTAs to the FDA for ORION plus in June. Speaker 200:18:37The PMTAs were submitted for 3 varieties: tobacco, mint and winigrain, each in 3 different nicotine strength options. We believe our innovation in the nicotine pouch space can be a meaningful contributor to our smoke free goals once authorized in the U. S. In summary, it was an exciting quarter for Altria. We made significant progress toward our vision with in market products and achieved important milestones to prepare for future success. Speaker 200:19:13We're confident in the long term outlook for our smoke free portfolio and we have a significant opportunity to responsibly lead the transition of adult smokers to a smoke free future. I believe we have the appropriate strategies in place to execute our growth plans and I want to thank all of our employees who continue to work tirelessly to make our vision become a reality. I'll now turn it over to Sal to provide more detail on the business environment and our results. Thanks, Billy. Adjusted diluted earnings per share was unchanged in the 2nd quarter and declined by 1.6% for the first half. Speaker 300:20:00Our first half results were consistent with our expectations. For 2024, adjusted diluted EPS growth weighted to the second half due to the timing of the Enjoy acquisition in June 2023 and the impact of 2 additional shipping days in the second half of the year. Therefore, we are narrowing our full year 2024 guidance range and now expect to deliver adjusted diluted EPS in a range of $5.07 to $5.15 representing a growth rate of 2.5% to 4% from a base of $4.95 in 2023. Let's turn to an update on consumer and industry dynamics. Cigarette industry shipment volumes remain pressured during the 2nd quarter and first half due primarily to macroeconomic factors and the growth of illegal disposable e vapor products. Speaker 300:21:07While the rate of inflation has stabilized in recent months, we believe adult smokers remain under economic pressure as the cumulative impacts from prolonged inflation persists and constrained discretionary spending. Late last year, we shared our estimate that the growth of illegal disposable e vapor products contributed to cigarette industry declines in a range of 1.5% to 2.5% and committed to continue evaluating this dynamic trend. As we've continued to see elevated growth of illicit e vapor due to lack of enforcement, we believe that cross category movement has been higher in recent quarters than our previously estimated range. We estimate that cross category movement from cigarettes, primarily to illicit disposable e vapor products, contributed an estimated 2% to 3% of the cigarette industry decline over the last 12 months and have reflected these updates in our decomposition of cigarette industry decline rates. We will continue to monitor the illicit e vapor market and provide updates as we enhance our estimates in this space. Speaker 300:22:32In the smokeable product segment, our strategy continues to be to maximize profitability over the long term, while appropriately balancing investments in Marlboro with funding the growth of smoke free products. Segment adjusted operating companies income declined by 2% to $2,800,000,000 in the 2nd quarter and by 2.3 percent to $5,300,000,000 in the first half. As we look to the second half of the year, in addition to the 2 additional shipping days, I'll remind you of the expiration of legal fund payments related to the master settlement agreement in the Q4, which we previously disclosed in our 2023 10 ks. Adjusted OCI margins expanded to 61.6 percent for the 2nd quarter and 61% for the first half. This performance was supported by strong net price realization of 9.9% for the quarter and 9.3% for the first half. Speaker 300:23:44Marlboro continued to be the undisputed category leader with a retail share of 42% in the 2nd quarter, down 0.1% versus the prior year and unchanged sequentially. Within the premium segment, Marlboro expanded its share to 59.4%, an increase of 0.7 share points versus the prior year and 0.1% sequentially. Smokeable Products segment reported domestic cigarette volumes declined by 13% in the 2nd quarter and 11.5% for the first half. When adjusted for trade inventory movements, smokeable products segment domestic cigarette volumes for the 2nd quarter and the first half declined by an estimated 11% and 10.5% respectively. At the industry level, when adjusted for trade inventory movements, 2nd quarter domestic cigarette volumes declined by an estimated 9.5%. Speaker 300:24:52For the first half, when adjusted for trade inventory movements and other factors, we estimate that adjusted domestic cigarette industry volumes declined by 9%. The discount segment grew 1 share point year over year and 0.2% sequentially in the Q2. We believe these results were driven in part by macroeconomic pressures on adult smokers and competitive activity. In cigars, reported shipment volume decreased 0.9% in the 2nd quarter. Middleton continued to contribute to smokeable products segment financial results and Black and Mild remained the leader the highly profitable machine made large cigar segment. Speaker 300:25:43Moving to the Oral Tobacco Products segment, adjusted OCI grew by 1.8% in the 2nd quarter and 3.1% for the first half. Adjusted OCI margins decreased by 2.4 percentage points for the 2nd quarter and 1.2 percentage points for the first half, as Helix continued to invest in the growing oral nicotine pouch category. Reported shipment volume 1.8% for the 2nd quarter and 2.5% for the first half as ON's growth was more than offset by lower MSD volumes. When adjusted for calendar differences and trade inventory movements, We estimate that second quarter and first half oral tobacco product segment volumes declined by approximately 3% and 3.5% respectively. Oral Tobacco Products segment retail share was 37.9% for both the Q2 and first half as declines in our MST brands were partially offset by the growth of ON. Speaker 300:26:59Evolving consumer preferences and the accelerated growth of oral nicotine pouches have continued to impact MSP products. As a result, we determined that the estimated fair value of the Skol trademark at June 30, 2024 was below its carrying value and recorded a non cash pre tax impairment of $354,000,000 Despite this, we remain encouraged by the resilience of Copenhagen, the long standing number one brand in MST and the continued growth of Bond in nicotine pouches, which surpassed Skol to become our 2nd largest oral tobacco brand at retail. Turning to ABI's financial results, we recorded $145,000,000 of adjusted equity earnings for the prior year. As a reminder, we use the equity method of accounting for investment in ABI and report our share of ABI's results using a 1 quarter lag. Accordingly, our 2nd quarter adjusted equity earnings represent our share of ABI's 1st quarter earnings, reduced by our lower ownership percentage following the partial sale of our ABI investment which occurred late in the Q1. Speaker 300:28:32Lastly, on capital allocation, we returned significant value to shareholders during the first half of the year, Supported by the partial sale of our investment in ABI, we returned $2,400,000,000 to shareholders through an accelerated share repurchase program, which was completed during the Q2. At the end of the quarter, we had approximately $1,000,000,000 remaining under our currently authorized share repurchase program, which we expect to complete by the end of this year. We also paid $3,400,000,000 in dividends, resulting in total cash returned to shareholders of $5,800,000,000 for the first half. Our balance sheet remains strong. Our debt to EBITDA ratio as of June 30 was 2.1 times, in line with our capital structure goal of approximately 2 times. Speaker 300:29:33As we continue to execute on our vision, we remain committed to creating long term value for our shareholders and maintaining a strong balance sheet. With that, we'll wrap up and Billy and I will be happy to take your questions. While the calls are being compiled, I'll remind you that today's earnings release and our non GAAP reconciliations are available on altria.com. We've also posted our usual quarterly metrics, which include pricing, inventory and other items. Let's open the question and answer period. Speaker 300:30:12Operator, do we have any questions? Operator00:30:16Thank you. Participate in the question and answer session. And our first question will come from the line of Bonnie Herzog with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Thank you. Operator00:30:40Good morning, everyone. I Speaker 400:30:43had a question on your guidance this morning. You narrowed your EPS guidance, but that implies the midpoint stays the same. And it does suggest a decent step up of growth in the back half. So I guess I'm wondering what some of the drivers of that growth will be and ultimately, how much visibility do you have on this given what really has been a challenging environment? And then how should we think about the implied back half EPS growth, especially given the investments you have been making behind Smoke Free? Speaker 400:31:18And will those ramp or are they going to slow down in the back half? Thank you for that. Speaker 300:31:24Sure. Good morning, Bonnie. As you said, we were able to narrow guidance. Our EPS for the first half was in line with our expectations. As far as the second half, let me point to a few factors. Speaker 300:31:40Remember, we're lapping the acquisition of Enjoy, which occurred in June of last year. We also have 2 extra shipping days and there are a couple of other items I'll point out. The benefit of our accelerated share repurchase program is back half weighted. And then, as I mentioned earlier, there'll be the expiration of the legal fund, which is part of our MSA cost and that expires in the Q4 of this year. Speaker 400:32:10Okay. Thank you. So it sounds like all right, that's helpful. And then I guess my second question would be on your smokeable segment. Despite expanding op margins, which have been quite impressive, your dollar profits didn't increase again in the quarter. Speaker 400:32:26And really this has been a concern. Obviously, the sharp sig volume declines continue to weigh on your top line despite what I would characterize as robust net price realization. But what about the controllable costs in the quarter, which were up high single digits? Could you talk a little bit more about maybe the drivers behind these costs? And then ultimately, going back to your EPS guidance, does that imply that your smokeable profits are expected to grow this year? Speaker 400:32:58Or are you just assuming flat profitability and you can still hit your EPS guidance without smokeable profits growing? Thank you. Speaker 300:33:09Yes, there's a lot to unpack. So I want to make sure I get to all your questions, Bonnie. If I don't, please follow-up. I'm going to work a little bit backwards. So let's talk about Smokeable for a minute. Speaker 300:33:21Remember, we are managing that business to maximize profitability and balance investments behind Marlboro and our smoke free products. And we're really pleased with the strong net price realization. We're pleased with the strong margin performance. But during economic difficult times for our consumers, we are going to support them. And we're doing that, I think, pretty effectively through our RGM strategies, which include investments in Marlboro Black. Speaker 300:33:51In the second half of the year, there are some tailwinds that we expect to see. Some I've already mentioned, right, the 2 extra shipping days that occur in the back half of the year, the expiration of the legal fund in the 4th quarter. We'll also be lapping the who are facing difficult economic times and maybe more price sensitive. So we feel really good about the progress in the smokeable segment and the progress going forward with that as well. So that's to the smokeable segment. Speaker 300:34:32As far as the back half of the year, I think I've talked to you about and talked about the individual items that were that will be tailwinds to our EPS growth in the back half of the year. But we don't manage the business quarter to quarter. We are managing it for the long term and we're really pleased with the financial progress. But volumes are down and that will drive controllable costs up on a per pack basis. And part of margin growth is both pricing and effective cost management. Speaker 300:35:12There are a couple of items that we've mentioned. So we have a base inflation rate for MSA of at least 3%. And then I talked about this last quarter and it disproportionately hit the Q1, but industry profits from a leading competitor are lower than expected. So that is driving some of our MSA costs. But again, our folks do a great job of using technology, thinking about better ways of continuing to execute our strategy and then having flexibility where we could manage costs between smokeable and then use that infrastructure in our newer products. Speaker 300:35:55And I think you've seen the strong results in our innovative smoke free products. Speaker 500:36:02On. Operator00:36:06Our next question will come from Matt Smith with Stifel. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:36:11Hi, good morning and thank you for taking my question. Speaker 200:36:14Good morning, Matt. Speaker 600:36:15I want to tie together a few comments from the prepared remarks. The impact of cross category movement on the cigarette industry decline rate is now higher. That's you talked about that being largely driven by the growth in illicit vapor products. So as enforcement steps up, albeit with a limited impact to the broader market today, can you talk about how adult consumers are reacting in terms of switching to compliant products in vapor or the impact to the cross category headwind where you are seeing some progress on those enforcement efforts? Speaker 200:36:49Yes. And that is a key point that you point out, Matt. I think when you think about it, when we talk about continued momentum building, that momentum is really around awareness. And I think we have their attention. We need to translate that momentum and awareness to momentum and action. Speaker 200:37:07And so, yes, there are some limited that have been taking place, but they need to step up significantly. What you saw in that increase in category movement to illicit vape is the prevalence of the illicit vape in the marketplace. Just to give you an example, you heard a store mentioned at the hearing on Capitol Hill with the FDA and DOJ. We sent a representative in this week and those illicit tapes are still available and they were able to purchase it. So then we sent them into stores around the FDA headquarters. Speaker 200:37:39And within the shadow of the FDA headquarters, we found at least 5 stores where illicit vapes are prevalent and readily available. So it's one thing to drive momentum and awareness, we need momentum in action. Speaker 600:37:55Thank you, Billy. And maybe just as a follow-up, specifically in Louisiana, which I believe is a state where you have a longer period of time where there's been enforcement, did you see adult tobacco users stay within their existing categories, meaning e vapor? Or did you see consumers shift between categories as enforcement stepped up? Speaker 200:38:20Yeah, we've seen some enforcement there. Remember, they started enforcing right away in Louisiana, and then there was a TRO, a restraining order that put it on hold. What we did see as far as early trends, and again, I call them early because we need to see continued enforcement, is that in the multi outlet convenience channel, we did see authorized products go up as far as that. The illicit products went virtually to 0 and then we did see a slight difference in cigarette volume declines. But what we see is because of the lack of enforcement across the U. Speaker 200:38:56S. Is that once entrenched those supply chains and you heard in the remarks, we're seeing it now that the supply chains have been established, the bad actors are putting more products through that same supply chain. So we need a concerted effort across the U. S. But those were the early trends we saw in Louisiana. Speaker 600:39:17Thank you, Billy. I'll pass it on. Operator00:39:22Our next question will come from Calum Elliott with Bernstein. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:39:30Hi, good morning guys. Good morning. Maybe I can start by building on building on Matt's question. Just wondering if you could give us an idea, I think you had mentioned in the prepared remarks, 11 states have passed measures, but only 4 have actually sort of enforced those measures or enacted the measures so far. Of the 7 where we're still waiting for enactment in the back half of this year and twenty twenty five, what proportion of U. Speaker 700:39:58S. Cigarette volumes roughly do those 7 states represent, Billy? Speaker 200:40:02Yes, I don't have that number off the top of my head, Calum. I'll make sure IR follows up as far as percent of cigarette volume and e vapor volume. The point you highlight is that I think they're trying to be disciplined and think about a total enforcement approach in these states. And that's why we see a bit of delay in the implementation of it. But I think it's an important step. Speaker 200:40:24Once they get the enforcement in place and really hold manufacturers accountable to it, we think they can have an impact. We would like to see this happen across the U. S. And at the federal level. Speaker 700:40:39Okay. And maybe this segues nicely there then. Obviously, we've got a U. S. Election later this year. Speaker 700:40:46And whatever happens, we're going to have a new president now. So my question is, are there legislative measures that could help with this problem and that we could maybe expect to see accelerate after the election? Or do you think this has to sort Speaker 600:41:01of remain in the hands of the FDA? Speaker 200:41:04Yes. I think to your point, regardless of the outcome of the election, we'll certainly have a new administration. We really engage on both sides of the aisle and intend to work with either administration that comes in place. I think the focus will be that the right approach is harm reduction. But to have a fruitful harm reduction, you need both authorizations for legitimate smoke free products and enforcement for illicit products. Speaker 200:41:30And that prohibition is not the proper framework. And so they really need to focus on restoring. We think the FDA has all the tools necessary and partnering with the other federal agencies, they just need to take action. But certainly, we will never turn down a legislative approach. We'll continue to propose approaches that we think could be effective, but we think the tools are there already. Speaker 700:41:55Okay, great. And maybe final one, shifting gears a little bit. Incredibly encouraging, enjoy device share that you shared in the slides up at 25%, so very big sequential step up. You spoke on in your remarks really about how you think that could maybe be a leading indicator of consumable share. I guess my question is, can you talk about any recent data that you have on conversion? Speaker 700:42:21Like what do the rates of conversion look like for EnjoyACE? And what proportion of people trialing the product actually do convert in your experience? Speaker 200:42:30Yes. It's early on yet, Colm, as we've repositioned EnjoyA at retail, given a greater visibility and really have both equity, a new equity campaign highlighting the benefits of Enjoy over the consumer can have. I understand your question and we'll be sure to share those when we feel like we have enough data on hand to be able to project those. Operator00:43:00Our next question will come from Faham Beygh with UBS. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:43:06Good morning, gents. A couple from me as well. Firstly, I wanted to get your thoughts on the ABI stake and the credit rating given Fish Ratings' recent comments. I guess there are 2 questions within this. Firstly, how important is the current investment grade credit rating to you? Speaker 800:43:29And secondly, could this mean a further stake sell is unlikely in the net term? And then the second question, given it is proving quite a challenge to control these new alternative nicotine products and as you suggested prohibition isn't valid, it shouldn't be valid. A large part of this expansion of illicit products has probably been due to the rapid evolution of these categories. And there are many factors that clearly weren't considered at the time these regulations were formed. For example, synthetic nicotine, non nicotine products, WS3, etcetera, which has probably created an unequal playing field. Speaker 800:44:16I wanted to get your view on what options do you believe authorities have to evolve regulation? And do you believe it is feasible to reset the deeming regulation date to permit new products as the industry seeks greater adoption of smoke free products? Speaker 300:44:35Let me start with your question on the credit rating in ABI, and then I'll turn it over to Billy. So first, look, we believe it's in the best interest of our shareholders to manage a strong balance sheet. And an investment grade credit rating is important because from time to time, we do enter the commercial paper market as our cash outflows vary over the course of the year. You pay MSA in April and things like that. But if you look at our history and our allocation of resources and capital, we've taken a very balanced approach. Speaker 300:45:17We have really strong cash generative operating companies. After paying the dividend to our shareholders, we generally have over $1,000,000,000 in excess cash and we're able to deploy that in a number of ways. In the past, we've deployed it through share repurchase. We have managed our maturity towers. We've paid off debt that is coming due. Speaker 300:45:39So and we were able to provide in our corporate goals, some a little bit of transparency related to our leverage goal of 2 to 1. So obviously, managing the strength of our balance sheet remains strong. As far as the ABI asset, there's really no change to how we view that asset. It's a financial asset. We think about it through the lens of Voucher shareholder and long term shareholder value. Speaker 300:46:07So really no change to that at Speaker 200:46:11Yeah. And following up on your question about potential enforcement actions, we do believe they can bring the market back to order. Some of the things that we've mentioned to the FDA and letters to them, just to give you a flavor of what we think they can do, the FDA really hasn't taken any action against either in the form of litigation or civil monetary penalties against the largest illicit vapor manufacturers or the U. S.-based distributors. If you think about U. Speaker 200:46:41S.-based distributors, the litigation, the distributors have assets that can be seized. If you think about holding these illicit actors either civilly or criminally accountable for the activities they have in the marketplace. They can put all known illicit products on a list that customs should prevent from entering the borders and impose the civil monetary penalties that they have at the maximum levels, not just warning letters. And like I mentioned earlier to Matt, following up on warning letters, here there was a store pointed out to them in a congressional hearing and the illicit paper products are still available there at that store. So there are some simple things and then there are some that require this multi agency collaboration, but we believe could be effective. Speaker 200:47:32You mentioned synthetic nicotine. Just take the prevalence we're starting to see in nicotine pouch. When that statute was passed to give the FDA authorization over synthetic nicotine, it said any product that did not receive authorization and it gave a deadline that wasn't authorized was no longer legally should be legally available on the market. But we're seeing, I mentioned, 350 SKUs and more each month. Just a matter of enforcement and holding people accountable to the regulation. Speaker 800:48:08Thanks, Billy. Speaker 200:48:13Thank you. Operator00:48:15Our next question will come from Rob Bain with Barclays. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:48:22Hi, good morning. Three questions from me. So the first is on the industry volume declines, which remain weak, but they are weak at a constant level, while we are seeing other parts of consumer weaken sequentially. So is it fair to say that you are maybe seeing some green shoots and your key competitor was highlighting that they are beginning to see industry volume trends improve. Is that something you are seeing? Speaker 200:48:55I think you could highlight I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. I think you could highlight some green shoots. I think when you think about it, it is certainly we've seen like let's just use inflation as one. We've seen inflation lessening, but it's not the matter of a quarter to quarter inflation. It's really a matter of the cumulative inflation that takes place. Speaker 200:49:15And so the green shoots from a standpoint is you need some time of a steady marketplace for the consumer to adapt to their new conditions. And we tried to highlight that for a couple of quarters. So we're seeing some green shoots. You highlighted the kind of a more steady decline, but then we highlighted just the opposite with illicit vape, where we're seeing increased consumers moving over because of the plethora of those products in the marketplace and being readily available. So yes, there are some green shoots that we're seeing in the economics. Speaker 900:49:52Sure. My second question is on this MSA legal bill, which the industry pays $500,000,000 max cap, which will, I guess, run out by the end of this year. So can you just help us think about the benefit to you in Q4 this year and then further in 2025? Speaker 300:50:14Yes, sure. You are correct. The total legal fund is about $500,000,000 We pay our fair share of that based on shipments and you'll get a quarter of that this year and the remaining 3 quarters in 2025. Speaker 900:50:34Sure. Okay. And my last question is on leaf costs. So your key competitor was highlighting that leaf costs inflation, which was almost low double digit in 1H is going to be lower in 2H and then unwind completely in FY 2025. So is that something you are also seeing and will that also be a benefit as we look ahead for the next 18 months? Speaker 300:50:59Yes. Well, look, we engage with domestic growers, primarily their fantastic business partners. They work really hard to provide us with high quality leaf. You are seeing some inflation in the leaf costs. Their labor costs are up, fuel costs are up, obviously. Speaker 300:51:23We're blending multiple years of leaf in our product. And as some of those economic factors move, it could influence our leave costs. We're very fortunate in our businesses is that our cost of goods are fairly low for our products. We have high margins. In the cigarette category, as an example, it's really MSA, FET, fees like that that are the primary cost drivers in the cigarette business. Speaker 300:51:54But we have a terrific department that engages with our growers and they do a fantastic job of getting high quality leaf at a competitive price and they'll continue to do that work. Speaker 900:52:10Thank you so much. Speaker 700:52:11You're welcome. Operator00:52:14And our next question will come from Owen Bennett with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:52:21Good morning, gents. Hope all well. A couple of questions from me. And the first one relates to industry wholesale shipments. So there appears to be a sizable inventory headwind in the first half such that we've got cigarette industry shipments down close to 12% versus the adjusted decline of around 9%. Speaker 500:52:41There also seems to be a similar dynamic at play in traditional smokers. So my question is, as we continue to see the shift over in new RFPs and more shelf space allocated to these products, Can we expect this inventory dynamic to be an ongoing trend, so where shipment trends are worse than in market trends? Or do you think this will start to unwind at some point? Speaker 200:53:04Yes. Thanks for the question, Owen. I think you highlighted inventories. And when you think about inventories, I would just encourage you to look at them a bit more longer term in the quarter. Certainly from a standpoint of overall inventories, they tend to balance through time. Speaker 200:53:20But as we see volume declines, certainly through time, you would expect some decrease in inventories commensurate with the decrease in volume, but that's more of a kind of a trend to trend basis. They're very similar. I think also I would highlight you highlighted wholesale inventory included in there is some retail inventory. I do think as we've seen the plethora of illicit vapes, as we see some capital allocated by retailers into the illicit vape category. Speaker 500:53:51Okay, thanks. And then just my second question is on RRP internationally. Well, two questions here. Do you have market share estimates for ON in Enjoy or even SWIC internationally at any point over the next 12 months as this could clearly be a way to offset some of the U. S. Speaker 500:54:13Pressures? So at least on the top line is obviously there'd be additional spend involved with this. Thank you. Speaker 200:54:19Yes. As far as ON in Sweden in the U. K, we haven't disclosed market share. We're still in the early stages of that. We tried to highlight some of the repeat purchases and some of the increased distribution. Speaker 200:54:30So we'll get a little traction there and then we'll be able to share those. I think as far as Enjoy, you see the activity in the U. S. With illicit vape. I think as you look at least in the European community, it's a very similar type of situation taking place with a plethora of illicit vapes there as well. Speaker 200:54:50Some countries are looking to try to garner and take control of that illicit vape market. So we'll see how that plays out. Our focus for Enjoy right now is we feel like there's a huge opportunity here in the U. S. And that's where our focus is. Speaker 200:55:04And then as far as SWIC, we mentioned some learning that we would have as we approach year end. And so we'll share more about that as we get closer. Speaker 500:55:16Well, thanks very much. Appreciate your time. Speaker 200:55:18Thank you. Operator00:55:22And there appear to be no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the call back to Mac Livingston for any closing remarks. Speaker 100:55:30Thanks everyone for joining us. Have a great day. Talk to you soon. Bye. Operator00:55:37And this concludes today's call. 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