The Goldman Sachs Group Q2 2022 Earnings Results & Report

The Goldman Sachs Group EPS Results

• Actual EPS: $7.73
• Consensus EPS: $6.99
• Beat/Miss: Beat by +$0.74
• One Year Ago EPS: $15.02
• EPS Beat Rate: 8 of last 8 quarters

The Goldman Sachs Group Revenue Results

• Actual Revenue: $11.86 billion
• Expected Revenue: $10.70 billion
• Beat/Miss: Beat by +$1.16 billion
• YoY Revenue Growth: -22.90%

The Goldman Sachs Group (NYSE:GS) is a global financial services company that provides investment banking, securities, asset management and wealth management services to corporations, financial institutions, governments and individual investors. Its investment banking activities include advising on mergers and acquisitions, public and private offerings, restructurings and other strategic transactions.

Through its global markets businesses, Goldman Sachs helps clients buy and sell securities and other financial instruments and provides financing, risk management and market-making services. Its Asset & Wealth Management business offers investment strategies, portfolio management, financial planning and advisory services across public and private markets. The company also provides select transaction banking and other financial solutions through its platform-related businesses.

Founded in 1869, Goldman Sachs is headquartered in New York City and serves clients across North America, Europe, Asia-Pacific, the Middle East and other international markets. David Solomon has served as the company’s chairman and chief executive officer since 2018.

The Goldman Sachs Group Q2 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

• Goldman Sachs reported Q2 net revenues of $11.9 billion, earnings per share of $7.73, a return on common equity of 10.6% and a return on tangible equity of 11.4%.
• Global Markets revenue grew 32% year-over-year to $6.5 billion, led by higher client activity in FICC risk intermediation and record FICC financing results.
• Asset Management net revenues fell as on-balance-sheet public equity investments marked losses of $221 million, reducing the public portfolio value to about $2.8 billion.
• Consumer & Wealth Management delivered record Q2 net revenues of $2.2 billion, driven by 10% higher wealth management fees, a 23% rise in private banking and lending, and a 67% boost in consumer banking revenues.
• Following improved Fed stress test results, the board raised the quarterly dividend by 25% to $2.50 per share, targets a 3% GSIB surcharge and is evaluating opportunistic share repurchases.

Presentation

[Operator]

Good morning. My name is Katie, and I will be your conference facilitator today. I would like to welcome everyone to the Goldman Sachs Q2 2022 earnings conference call. This call is being recorded today, July 18th, 2022. Thank you. Ms. Halio, you may begin your conference.

[Carey Halio, Head of Investor Relations at Goldman Sachs]

Good morning. This is Carey Halio, Head of Investor Relations at Goldman Sachs. Welcome to our Q2 earnings conference call. Today, we will reference our earnings presentation, which can be found on the investor relations page of our website at www.gs.com. Note information on forward-looking statements and non-GAAP measures appear on the earnings release and presentation. This audiocast is copyrighted material of The Goldman Sachs Group, Inc. and may not be duplicated, reproduced, or rebroadcast without our consent. I'm joined today by our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, David Solomon, and our Chief Financial Officer, Denis Coleman. Let me pass the call to David.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

Thanks, Carey, and good morning, everybody. Thank you all for joining us. I'm pleased with our performance this quarter. There's no question that the market environment has gotten more complicated and a combination of macroeconomic conditions and geopolitics is having a material impact on asset prices, market activity, and confidence. We see inflation deeply entrenched in the economy, and what's unusual about this particular period is that both demand and supply are being affected by exogenous events, namely the pandemic and the war in Ukraine. In my dialogue with CEOs operating big global businesses, they tell me that they continue to see persistent inflation in their supply chains. Our economists, meanwhile, say there are signs that inflation will move lower in the second half of the year. The answer is uncertain, and we will all be watching it very closely.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

Given all of this, we are seeing shifts in monetary policy, and those shifts will continue to tighten economic conditions. I expect there's going to be more volatility, and there's going to be more uncertainty. In light of the current environment, we will manage all our resources cautiously and dynamically. Our risk management culture and capabilities should help us navigate this environment for our clients and for the firm. That said, there is nothing about this environment that changes our strategy, and we are committed to our medium-term targets. We have a strong client franchise, and we remain focused on providing differentiated service. We benefit from the diversity of our businesses and their global footprint. In light of the environment, we are certainly taking deliberate action on capital and expenses, but we will also continue to invest to strengthen and grow our firm.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

Let me now turn to our financial results. In the Q2, we produced net revenues of $11.9 billion and generated Earnings Per Share of $7.73, an ROE of 10.6% and an ROTE of 11.4%. Our book value per share finished the quarter at $302, up 14% year-over-year and 3% quarter-over-quarter. In Investment Banking, we remain the number one advisor in M&A and Equity Capital Markets. Though capital markets activity has declined, our client dialogue and engagement continues to be strong. This quarter again reaffirmed our strategy to be global, broad, and deep in our leading global markets franchise. Each week, clients turn to us for our market expertise and execution in a dynamic and uncertain environment.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

Our strong performance this quarter demonstrates the diversification of our businesses across this segment. I'm very proud of the fact that we have consistently executed on our strategy to improve our market share as we help our clients manage risk and meet their financing needs. In this environment, our on-balance sheet investments face significant headwinds after achieving record high net revenues in 2021. Our management and other fees were resilient as we remain focused on growing fee-based revenue streams across our asset management, wealth management segments, and further reducing our on-balance sheet investments as markets allow. In consumer, we are prudently expanding our platform to serve individuals digitally, both organically and through partnerships. Before turning it over to Denis, let me spend a minute on capital, particularly in light of the recent Federal Reserve Stress Test results.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

I was glad to see the improvement in our Stress Capital Buffer, especially because the test this year was more challenging than in the past. This is a reflection of the progress we are making in our strategic evolution. That said, we will advance our efforts to improve the capital density of our businesses in order to reduce our capital requirements over time. Following the stress test results, our board of directors also declared a 25% increase in our quarterly dividend to $2.50 per share. This follows an increase of 60% in 2021 and over 50% in 2019. In addition, with regard to our GSIB buffer, while we made a conscious decision to grow our balance sheet to support client activity over the last three years, it is our current plan to target a 3% GSIB surcharge.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

This intention is driven by the recent operating environment as well as client needs. Should these change, we will naturally reevaluate. In closing, I remain confident in our ability to navigate the market environment, serve our clients, and create long-term value for shareholders. Despite the uncertainty we face, we continue to drive this organization forward by executing our client-oriented strategy and delivering accretive returns consistent with our targets over time. I'll now turn it over to Denis to cover our financial results for the quarter in more detail.

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

Thank you, David. Good morning. Let's start with our results on page two of the presentation. In the second quarter, we generated net revenues of $11.9 billion and net earnings of $2.9 billion, resulting in Earnings Per Share of $7.73. We posted a return on common equity of 10.6% and Return on Tangible Equity of 11.4%. Turning to performance by segment, starting on page three. Investment Banking generated revenues of $2.1 billion, down 41% versus a year ago. Financial advisory revenues were $1.2 billion. Our global M&A franchise remained strong as we closed over 115 deals for approximately $380 billion of deal volume in the quarter, further strengthening our number one league table position.

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

Equity underwriting net revenues were $131 million. Industry volumes remain muted given the ongoing market volatility. Despite this, we remain ready to deliver for our clients once the market backdrop for equity issuance improves. Debt underwriting net revenues were $457 million, where we saw lower levels of market activity amid sharp rate increases in the quarter. While our Investment Banking backlog is down from the peak levels last year, it is still higher than it has been at any point in our history prior to 2021. We feel good about the quality of our backlog based on our healthy levels of strategic dialogue that span from technology and innovation to defensive repositioning of client portfolios. We may see some softening if the challenging market environment persists.

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

Revenues from corporate lending were $352 million, up 121% versus a year ago, driven by hedge gains associated with our relationship lending book that more than offset approximately $225 million in marks on certain commitments from our acquisition financing activities. We saw continued growth in our Transaction Banking business. The platform now serves nearly 400 clients and has roughly $65 billion in deposits at the end of the Q2, generating approximately $175 million in revenues year to date. Moving to global markets on page four. Segment net revenues were $6.5 billion in the quarter, up 32% year-on-year. Growth in the quarter was driven by significantly higher client activity as we facilitated risk intermediation for clients amid a volatile market. Looking at FICC on page five.

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

Revenues were $3.6 billion in the Q2. In FICC intermediation, we saw a 50% increase in revenues, with three of our five FICC intermediation businesses posting higher net revenues versus the prior year, reflecting the strength and breadth of our diversified franchise. Our macro franchise remained incredibly active as we helped clients navigate rising rates, tightening monetary policies, and continued volatility across commodities. This drove strong growth in net revenues in rates, commodities, and currencies. While revenues were lower year-on-year in credit and mortgages, clients remain engaged. Meanwhile, in fixed financing, we saw considerable strength in mortgage lending and repo activity, which helped deliver record results. Moving to equities. Net revenues in the Q2 were a solid $2.9 billion. Equities intermediation revenues fell 2% year-over-year due to a more challenging market making environment.

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

Activity was also impacted by lower levels of primary issuance volumes. Equities financing revenues of $1.1 billion rose 38% versus a year ago and 14% versus the Q1. Increased volatility across global equity markets drove higher demand for various forms of financing from our clients. Growth in equities financing, coupled with record performance in fixed financing, is a reflection of our strategy to grow client financing activities, which represented nearly 30% of our overall global markets revenues this quarter. Moving to asset management on page six. Asset management net revenues of $1.1 billion were materially lower than the Q2 of last year. Growth in management and incentive fees was more than offset by net losses from our on-balance sheet investment portfolio. Management and other fees totaled $1 billion, up 39% year-over-year.

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

This increase was driven by the roll-off of fee waivers on money market funds and the addition of $305 billion of incremental AUS from the recently completed acquisition of NNIP, which contributed roughly $170 million of management and other fees this quarter. Equity investments generated losses of $221 million, driven by sharp market declines during the quarter. More specifically, on our public equity portfolio, we experienced roughly $660 million of net losses, reducing the value of the portfolio to approximately $2.8 billion at quarter end. In our private portfolio, we produced approximately $440 million of net revenues. We generated event-driven gains of over $380 million from various positions across the portfolio.

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

Additionally, we had operating revenues of approximately $165 million related to our consolidated investment entities. These revenues were partially offset by approximately $100 million of marks, particularly in the technology and consumer sectors. We remain focused on our strategy of migrating our alternatives business to more third-party funds, and in the Q2, we raised over $20 billion of commitments. We also harvested over $1 billion of on-balance sheet equity investments. The pace of our realizations this quarter was influenced by both macro and micro drivers, with persistent volatility in equity markets making it more difficult to harvest assets.

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

Net revenues from lending and debt investment activities in asset management were $137 million, down 78% versus a year ago, as net interest income of $275 million was partly offset by mark-to-market losses of approximately $140 million due to spread widening. I'll turn to consumer and wealth management on page nine. We produced record net revenues of $2.2 billion in the Q2, up 25% versus a year ago, driven by higher net revenues in both wealth management and Consumer Banking. For the quarter, wealth management and other fees of $1.2 billion rose 10% versus last year. Driven by higher placement fees and higher average Assets Under Supervision.

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

While private banking and lending net revenues of $320 million were down relative to record results last quarter, revenues were up 23% year-on-year due to higher lending and deposit balances. Consumer Banking revenues were $608 million in the Q2, rising 67% versus last year and 26% versus the Q1. Now moving to page ten. Total firm-wide AUS ended the quarter at $2.5 trillion. Combined firm-wide management and other fees in the Q2 rose 22% year-over-year to $2.2 billion. We expect our fee revenues to continue to grow as we progress towards our fundraising and management fee targets we laid out earlier this year.

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

On page 11, total firm-wide net interest income of $1.7 billion in the Q2 was down modestly relative to the Q1 due to lower net interest income in global markets. Our total loan portfolio at quarter end was $176 billion, up $10 billion versus the Q1, primarily due to growth in corporate, wealth management, and residential real estate loans. Our provision for credit losses in the Q2 was $667 million, up from $561 million in the Q1. Provisions in the quarter were primarily due to growth in our consumer lending portfolio and higher modeled losses due to economic indicators worsening quarter-over-quarter. Overall, our portfolio fundamentals remain strong, as reflected by minimal impairments across our wholesale lending book.

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

On the consumer side, while we do not see signs of meaningful credit deterioration, we are closely monitoring the portfolio and are taking mitigating actions as appropriate. Now let's turn to expenses on page 12. Our total quarterly operating expenses were $7.7 billion, down 11% year-over-year. Our compensation ratio for the quarter net of provisions was 33%. Quarterly non-compensation expenses were $4 billion. Year-over-year increases were driven by integration and run rate expenses related to the NNIP and GreenSky acquisitions, as well as continued investments, particularly in technology and higher levels of business activity. Together, NNIP and GreenSky contributed approximately $200 million to non-compensation expenses this quarter. Given the challenging operating environment, we are closely re-examining all of our forward spending and investment plans to ensure the best use of our resources.

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

As a result, we're taking a number of actions to improve our operating efficiency. Specifically, we have made the decision to slow hiring velocity and reduce certain professional fees going forward. Though these actions will take some time to be reflected in our results. We are keeping in mind, however, that while we're being disciplined about our expenses, we are not doing so to the detriment of our client franchise or our growth strategy. Turning to capital on slide 13. Our Common Equity Tier 1 ratio was 14.2% at the end of the Q2 under the standardized approach, down 20 basis points sequentially and representing an 80 basis point buffer to our current capital requirement as we enter the second half of the year.

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

This past quarter, we returned $1.2 billion to shareholders, including common stock repurchases of $500 million and common stock dividends of over $700 million. As David noted earlier, in the Q3, our board of directors increased our quarterly dividend by 25% to $2.50 per share. Looking ahead, we will remain nimble in response to both ongoing opportunities to support clients and the current operating environment. While we will continue to deploy capital in our business where returns are accretive, we are actively evaluating share repurchases in light of our current stock price. In conclusion, our solid Q2 results reflect our ability to navigate volatile markets while actively supporting our clients. We remain confident in our financial position, capital base and liquidity, which will help us serve clients as they navigate these challenging markets.

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

We are committed to executing on our growth strategy and delivering for our shareholders. With that, we'll now open up the line for questions.

[Operator]

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now take a moment to compile the Q&A roster. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star and the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press star, then the number two on your telephone keypad. If you're asking a question and you are on a hands-free unit or a speakerphone, we would like to ask that you use your handset when asking your question. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. We will take our first question from Glenn Schorr with Evercore.

[Glenn Schorr, Senior Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst at Evercore]

Hi. Thanks very much. I apologize if I missed it within your remarks, but can you tell us what the P&L contribution from the $1 billion or so in dispositions out of the private equity book was? I want to ask that in the context of when people see the marks on the private portfolio being pretty small relative to what happened in the public markets, that they wanna see why you have confidence, and what about the portfolio gives you such confidence that it wasn't as affected by what's going on in the public markets? Thanks so much.

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

Thanks, Glenn. It's Denis. Let me take that for you. We made a number of remarks with respect to the composition of our on-balance sheet equity investments. Specifically, we made note of event-driven gains of approximately $380 million during the quarter. We noted a markdown of approximately $100 million across consumer and technology sectors. What I would say to give you some context is, we do look at the portfolio on a very, very granular basis. It's comprised of, you know, both corporate and real estate assets.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

If we look at the performance, for example, of our private equity names, their top-line performance on average, they're growing north of 20%. If we were to take a look at some public comparable, albeit an imperfect one, those are growing in a negative fashion. It reflects the initial equity investment selection as well as the ongoing performance of those particular businesses.

[Glenn Schorr, Senior Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst at Evercore]

Okay. Very much appreciated. One quick follow-up. Obviously, ECM and DCM pipelines are down a lot given what we've seen, but you noted that your advisory backlog is actually up. I wonder if you could expand on that a little bit because, you know, we haven't seen a lot of activity these days in M&A. Thanks.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

Look, what I would say in terms of the overall advisory performance, you know, you can see the headline number, which is quite significant at $1.2 billion. We have our sustained number one market share position across both announced and completed, actually increasing our lead versus certain other competitors. You know, I think this is an environment where our clients are turning to us and looking for advice on how they can execute on what's particularly strategic for them. The nature of the transactions that they may be considering could very well be different in their complexion than a year ago. Nevertheless, our robust global client base have strategic needs, and they trust us to help them navigate the market.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

We do continue to see high levels of strategic dialogue and client engagement. You know, there's no question if the overall operating environment were to deteriorate further or if confidence were impaired, we could see some softening even in our advisory activities. To date, they've been strong. On the underwriting side, that's much more a reflection of the current capital markets receptivity. Again, strong levels of client engagement. We like our backlog, but it is, you know, there will be a better market environment required in order for many of our clients to choose to access those markets, and for us to deliver on certain aspects of that backlog.

[Glenn Schorr, Senior Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst at Evercore]

Thanks, Denis.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

Thanks, Glenn.

[Operator]

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Christian Bolu with Autonomous.

[Christian Bolu, Senior Analyst at Autonomous Research]

Good morning, David and Denis. So, you posted pretty strong results this morning. You're continuing to take market share in trading. ROE to year-to-date is 13%. That's pretty good given the backdrop. Man, you guys' tone sounds very, very cautious. What exactly are you worried about in the macro backdrop that maybe just more specifically, and how does that impact your thinking on a timeline to achieve medium-term ROE targets?

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

I'll start, Christian. I don't know if Denis will add anything to it. I think our tone is cautious because the environment's uncertain. The environment's very uncertain. We don't have a crystal ball to tell you exactly how monetary policy will navigate the inflationary environment that exists. There's no question that economic conditions are tightening to try to control inflation. As economic conditions tighten, you know, it will have a bigger impact on corporate confidence and also consumer activity in the economy. I think it's hard to gauge exactly how that will play out, and so I think it's prudent for us to be cautious.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

Now, that said, I think one of the things you saw this quarter is we have a much broader, much more diverse, much more global, much more resilient business, than we might have had five, seven, 10 years ago, and we benefited from that in the context of the quarter. We feel good about our ability to operate. I would say that at the moment, while there's a lot of uncertainty, you know, clients are still relatively active. Denis was just talking about M&A activity, and our clients are active. Capital markets activity is obviously down. This is not an environment where everyone's looking to shed all risk, but it's certainly an environment where people are more cautious about risk. We continue to monitor it, but I think it's prudent and appropriate for us to be cautious.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

If you go back and listen to, you know, some of the words, you know, we said we're evaluating things with respect to resources. We're being flexible and being prepared to be nimble in case the environment gets worse. By the way, we don't know that the environment is gonna get worse. The environment might get better, too. I just think it's a time where, you know, where prudence and caution makes a lot of sense. Now, with respect to our targets, you know, I want to be clear, we set medium-term targets for 2024. You know, we still plan on meeting those targets, and we don't see anything in this environment that will prevent us from meeting those targets. I'm not gonna speculate on a quarter-by-quarter basis as to what the trajectory, you know, looks along the way.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

I would say in what's been certainly a very difficult first half of the year, if you think about the headwinds we've faced in both public equity markets because of the war in Ukraine, and the unwind of the business in Russia, et cetera, I think there have been some exogenous events in this first half of the year that certainly created bigger headwinds than we might see in other times going forward. We remain comfortable and committed to our targets, and we'll continue to move forward, you know, expeditiously to meet them.

[Christian Bolu, Senior Analyst at Autonomous Research]

Okay, thanks. Maybe switch over to the consumer business. Wanted to get your latest thinking on that, on that business. You know, how is the profitability curve tracking? How are you thinking about that business going into a downturn? Just strategically, given the pressures on fintechs out there, I wondered if there's any sort of opportunity here to try and grow faster, either organically or inorganically.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

Sure. I appreciate the question, and I guess I'd just step back and I'd highlight that we're, you know, we've been building a business from scratch here. It certainly takes investment, and we've been making investment. You know, we've been pretty clear that we have a long-term strategy to create a leading digital platform in the Consumer Banking business. Now, we've been at it, as I think you know, for five years. We've built out a really good deposit platform. We've built out an interesting cards platform with very interesting technology. We have a loans platform. We have some technology around an invest platform, and we've also added GreenSky. With that portfolio of product offerings, we've told you in our update that we expect greater than $4 billion of revenue in 2024.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

You can obviously see this quarter that we're making progress on revenue in the business. We noted, I think when we spoke in February at the update, we said the vast majority of the build cost associated with the products that will achieve that $4 billion target are in the ground. I remind you of that comment. On a year-to-date basis, the vast majority of the investment relates to building credit reserves as we grow the business. Just a reminder, you know, CECL requires very, very significant upfront reserve build. We continue to feel good about the progress we're making, and we expect this business to generate accretive returns to Goldman Sachs over time, and we're committed to the journey that we've set out on to make sure that we do just that over time.

[Christian Bolu, Senior Analyst at Autonomous Research]

Okay. Thank you.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

The one thing I realized, Christian, that I didn't, you know, touch on, is we're very, very focused on the credit box and thinking about the credit box. During the early part of the pandemic when there was enormous uncertainty, we tightened the credit box meaningfully. You know, as Denis highlighted in his opening remarks, we don't see significant indications of credit deterioration in the consumer. But given tightening economic conditions, we're watching that very, very carefully. To the degree that we saw different signals in the short term, we would adjust our credit box very dynamically.

[Christian Bolu, Senior Analyst at Autonomous Research]

Thank you.

[Operator]

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Steven Chubak with Wolfe Research.

[Steven Chubak, Managing Director and Senior Analyst at Wolfe Research]

Hey, good morning, David. Good morning, Dennis.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

Good morning.

[Steven Chubak, Managing Director and Senior Analyst at Wolfe Research]

Maybe just as a follow-up on the credit discussion, I was hoping you could speak to your appetite for loan growth. You noted that you could be very dynamic. Just given some of the upward pressure on provision from both growth math as well as the macro deterioration, I was hoping you could just provide some ranges as to how we should be thinking about through the cycle provision expectation in a more normal operating backdrop.

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

Steven, thanks. It's Denis. Let me maybe provide a little extra color around the provisions just to help provide some context. You know, as we noted with respect to the consumer portion, that's really driven by ongoing growth in the asset origination as opposed to deterioration of credit quality. On the wholesale side, you know, we obviously model the macroeconomic outlook. When we do our work across our various scenarios, you know, over the course of the Q1 into the Q2, our outlook for the forward is for a less robust set of macroeconomic variables, from GDP growth to employment levels to inflation, probability of recession, possibility of stagflation, et cetera.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

you know, we re-weighted our scenarios, and we took a level of provisions that we thought was appropriate on our wholesale book, you know, relative to the outlook that we see. We continue to invest in our franchise. We think it's important to continue to support our portfolio of corporate clients, but we will continue to provide appropriately along the way.

[Steven Chubak, Managing Director and Senior Analyst at Wolfe Research]

Very helpful. Maybe just for my follow-up, for David on capital. You did cite plans to manage to the lower G-SIB surcharge of 3%. I know that you are on a path to potentially migrating as high as 3.5. I was hoping you could speak to the specific actions you're taking to mitigate the G-SIB score, whether we should be contemplating any level of revenue attrition from those actions. Does your ability to manage to that lower G-SIB surcharge inform the more aggressive tone that we heard on buyback?

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

Appreciate the question. Let me try to give, you know, some clarity to our, you know, to our thought process. As monetary and fiscal policy were extremely loose and extremely forward, the opportunity set with our clients was expanding very, very rapidly. In the context of that in 2020 and 2021, we saw opportunities to deploy resources, serve our clients, and therefore expand meaningfully the revenue opportunity and the profit opportunity for the firm. That environment has certainly shifted in 2022, and while our clients are still active, they are not active to the same degree that they were in 2021. You can obviously see that in the revenue environment, not just with us, but across the street.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

In stating that we're, you know, we're focused on controlling that resource growth and kind of bringing it back to a 3% level, we are making a forward assumption that's consistent with what we've seen in the first half of the year. You know, I'd note one of the things that I said in my comments was if there was information that would lead us to a different conclusion, we'll obviously evaluate that and change that. Based on the experience we've had over the last six months and the revenue opportunity we're capturing, we think we can continue to capture that revenue opportunity that's available based on client activity by being a little bit tougher on our resource allocation, and that should free up potentially some capital for shareholder return or potentially other investments.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

I would think at this point in time, you know, looking at that Dennis highlighted in his remarks with the stock trading where it is, we're certainly thinking about that very carefully as we evaluate our capital return going forward for the rest of the year.

[Operator]

We'll take our next question from Betsy Graseck with Morgan Stanley.

[Betsy Graseck, Managing Director at Morgan Stanley]

Hi, good morning. One of the other areas for, you know, capital deployment obviously is in growing the consumer business. I know you've got GreenSky under the belt, you know, the General Motors card, Apple's doing gangbusters. Just wanted to get a sense from you as to how you're thinking about other opportunities you might see for either new partnership opportunities or, you know, is there balance sheet acquisition capabilities there?

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

Yeah. Thanks, Betsy. You know, look, I think what I'd say with respect to that is, there are lots of partnership opportunities and lots of people coming to us, given our relationships, our technology, et cetera, that are interested in doing things with us. At the same point, we've done a bunch over the course of the last five years to build this business. As we've said, we've put a couple of big partnerships in the ground in cards. We've started an invest platform. We're now working to integrate GreenSky. I think our intention at the moment is to be focused on integrating these successfully and making sure we execute at a very high level.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

Certainly, as we get out into 2023 and 2024, we'll be more, you know, open to other partnerships, and other meaningful things going forward. At the moment, we're focused on, really, executing on what we've put forward, which included, as we had highlighted, launching checking later in the year.

[Betsy Graseck, Managing Director at Morgan Stanley]

Yeah. Okay. Then separately on Transaction Banking, you know, you've given us a lot of good metrics along the way on how that business has been building out. Maybe you could update those a little bit for us today, as well as give us a sense as to how the higher rate environment is impacting your returns there. I would think you're running ahead of plan based on that or expected to by year-end. How do you redeploy that fully into that business line or elsewhere? Thanks.

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

Betsy, it's Dennis. Maybe I'll take that one. As you suggest, we feel really good about the Transaction Banking business, its progress year to date and going forward. You know, we continue to improve on each of the metrics that we've been reporting on. You know, nearly 400 clients, deposits at around $65 billion, revenues year to date $175 million. Importantly, we continue to improve the percentage of the deposits that are operational. You know, operational and fully insured deposits are now north of 35%, at the end of the Q2. We'll continue to focus on growing overall clients, balances, and continuing to incrementally operationalize that business. It's obviously a profitable business already.

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

It's a business, as David highlighted, that benefits from leveraging the relationships that we have already inside the firm to grow it incrementally.

[Operator]

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Mike Mayo with Wells Fargo.

[Mike Mayo, Managing Director and Head of U.S. Large-Cap Bank Research at Wells Fargo Securities]

Hi.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

Hi, Mike.

[Mike Mayo, Managing Director and Head of U.S. Large-Cap Bank Research at Wells Fargo Securities]

I guess I'm thinking in terms of the trade-offs that you have to make, David, in terms of both capital and expenses. On capital, I mean, you talk about a broader, diverse, resilient, more annuity-like business stream, but then we get the Fed stress test results, and you guys finish in last place. Albeit better than last year, but still last place. I guess the regulators don't see it the same way that you do, and the trade-off between managing for lower regulatory capital requirements versus the loss of revenues. And then the other dynamic decision is managing expenses lower. As you said, you're taking a closer look at that, the trade-off between ensuring good profit margins, but at the risk of maybe losing revenues if things come back.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

I'm not sure there was a question there. I think there was a fair balance of exactly what we wrestle with. I mean, I would highlight, while it's a fair comment that our SCB is higher than everyone else's because of our current business mix, if that's what you refer to as last place, I would comment for the stress test, we came in first place, in that we were the only firm that actually saw their SCB decrease, and many institutions saw their SCB increase very meaningfully. Now, you know, I don't take that as a victory lap.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

We're early in the journey of taking assets off our balance sheet, but I still do think, Mike, one of the big attributes we have as you look ahead over the next few years is we are going to continue to make that business much less RWA dense. I do think, as indicated by the step forward we took in this stress test, that we will hopefully take other steps forward in future tests as we continue to change that mix. I'm not satisfied where we are on the journey of making the firm more fee-based and more resilient, but I am satisfied that we've made meaningful progress. I think the results this quarter show the diversity of the business in a positive light in what was a really tough operating environment.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

As someone who's followed the industry and our firm for quite some time, you know, I think the performance in this environment is reflective of the beginning of that evolution. You're exactly right. We have to constantly balance between investing in the future and you know, providing resources to serve clients when they're active and driving those shareholder returns that kind of is our true north of what we're trying to drive toward. Yes, it's a balance. I think we're trying to strike that balance appropriately and we're gonna continue to be laser-focused on making sure we do as good a job as we can striking that balance effectively.

[Mike Mayo, Managing Director and Head of U.S. Large-Cap Bank Research at Wells Fargo Securities]

On the second part, as it relates to expenses, it sounds like you're going to not quite plan B, but you're getting ready in case you need a plan B. How long do these deals stay alive before it pencils down and they just say, "All right, we're gonna wait for the next cycle"? I mean, it seems like with every month that passes, the chance that capital markets will rebound close to where it previously was declines. How long, you know, do you and the markets have before things just stay lower for longer?

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

Well, I guess I'd say a couple of things. We always. I think we're very nimble allocators of resources, financial resources, human resources. You know, we try to have a very flexible, nimble approach. Of course, we've expressed earlier in the call, we think this is an uncertain environment and we're gonna be cautious. Of course, we will have, you know, plans, you know, in hand to the degree the environment gets, you know, the environment gets worse. With respect to capital markets activity, I think I told you at the beginning of the year in our January call on January 15th, that I did not expect us to see the level of capital markets activity we saw in 2021 anytime soon, and I wouldn't call that as normal.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

When you talk about capital markets activity going back to what we saw, you know, in the past couple of years, I don't think we're going back to that, you know, anytime soon. I do think if you look at capital markets activity kind of average levels over the last seven years, take a period, five years, seven years and look at average levels, I'd be very surprised if we don't get back to some average level of capital markets activity sometime over the course of the next few quarters. History would just tell you that. That doesn't mean that it might not take a little bit longer this time if things get increasingly uncertain. Generally speaking, one of the things that affects capital markets activity is people have to reset their mind around valuations. They have to reset their mind around capital costs.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

That happens relatively quickly because people have plans, they have commitments, they have to invest. As soon as they get their minds around that and they adjust, which takes a few quarters, they get back into the market that's available to them. I'd be very surprised if we don't see, you know, as we head into 2023, some sort of a normalization of capital markets activity. Now, we might not because the world could get worse, and it could stay, you know, more difficult longer. It's not baked in the cake, in my opinion, that we're headed to a super negative environment. It is uncertain, it is a little bumpy, and so we're gonna proceed cautiously.

[Operator]

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Brennan Hawken with UBS.

[Brennan Hawken, Executive Director and Equity Research Analyst at UBS]

Good morning, David and Dennis. Thanks for taking my question. I'd like to start on expenses. You know, you indicated that you're adjusting the investments, but it sounds more like that's about slowing you know, the hiring outlook. You know, maybe the impact there has a lag and we're more talking about you know, year-end or even into 2023 and more on the comp side. Curious about number one, whether that's a fair interpretation. Number two, the best way to think about non-comp if we adjust for the legal charge and maybe some higher BCE this quarter. Is this the right jumping off point for non-comp, or might some of that expense diligence that you flagged also put some downward pressure on the non-comp plan? Thanks.

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

Sure. So two components to your question, and obviously we manage the firm to an efficiency ratio, looking at both the comp side and the non-comp side of the equation. I mean, as you would have seen through the first half of the year, you know, we've taken compensation expense down significantly, $3.5 billion less comp expense in the first half versus the first half last year. And at the same time, we did see some increases on the non-compensation side of the equation. As we look forward into the second half, as we indicated, yes, slow velocity of hiring, decrease, you know, replacement of attrition, probably reinstating our annual performance review of our employee base at the end of the year, something that we suspended during the period of the pandemic for the most part.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

Just being, you know, much more disciplined and focused on utilization efficiency of our human capital resources given overall environment. You're right, some of that will take time to reflect itself through the P&L. So I think that's the right expectation. You are correct in anticipating that we're also looking at non-compensation expenses and taking some actions there as well to slow the rate of growth and reduce, you know, certain components of our non-compensation expense. You know, some of them are, you know, dovetail well with investments that we're making to grow the firm, and some of those activities we'll obviously look to continue. We may slow the pace, but we'll continue to grow the activities that support the growth of the firm. There are other items in non-compensation expense

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

Occupancy as an example or travel expenses, where we actually see the impact of inflation impacting the overall level of expense. You know, that's just gonna require us to work harder to manage towards our overall efficiency target, which is, I think, the comments and references that both David and I have made with respect to our orientation on the expense front.

[Brennan Hawken, Executive Director and Equity Research Analyst at UBS]

Okay, great. Thanks for that color, Dennis. Appreciate it. The second question, I'm curious. We've seen, you know, you talked a lot about M&A and how, obviously our investment bank franchise is holding up really well. Just sort of a question around the environment. You know, we've seen riskier debt issuance slow a lot year to date and started to hear chatter that availability has actually continued to become challenging. Curious whether or not that's also what you're seeing and whether or not, there's any concern that availability, lesser availability might become a challenge, and lead to some pockets of stress for some of the more levered borrowers.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

I think it's an appropriate thing to look at carefully. I'd say at the moment, you know, real availability issues are limited to some very, very stressed borrowers or some very, very out-of-favor sectors. I do think sometimes people confuse availability with acceptance of the new and reset price. I would say at the moment, the bigger thing that's slowing down capital markets activity is people accepting of the new, you know, the new price environment. Ultimately, companies need to raise capital, they find that new clearing price. I do think if the environment stays, you know, very, very difficult from an economic perspective, you know, there are certain sectors where availability is an issue.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

There are, you know, a couple of them now. I point to retail as one where certainly, you know, capacity and leverage levels have constrained, you know, meaningfully. I think we'll watch this very cautiously. Again, you know, I would tell you that there's a mindset when you go through this in a resetting that's going on. I think ultimately markets find clearing prices and, you know, capital markets. There's certainly plenty of capital, plenty of liquidity available in markets for people who are doing, you know, reasonable deals at reasonable prices. The most levered companies will have a tougher time in this environment.

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

I mean, another thing I would add, just, that very same environment also presents an opportunity. As an example, in our FICC financing business, there are a number of clients who are looking for financing. They have important transactions to execute, attractive assets to have financed. To the extent that there's less availability of financing across the street, that presents an opportunity for us given the way that we're currently positioned, our focus on financing and the franchise relationship we have with those clients that are big users.

[Operator]

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Devin Ryan with JMP Securities.

[Devin Ryan, Managing Director at JMP Securities]

Great. Good morning, David and Denis. Question on the RIA custody offering. Can you just talk a little bit about the evolution of that offering and whether we should expect a more aggressive acceleration in the marketing of that offering in the coming quarters? There's been some recent press just suggesting that you guys are better integrating that with the broader Goldman Sachs capabilities. Love to just get an update on your thinking there.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

Well, we made an acquisition in the space. It's something that we're focused on as an opportunity for the firm. I'd say, you know, at this point, you know, the resources and the size and the scope of that, you know, are relatively small. I think as we look forward, you know, over the course of the next three to five years, it will be an area that we see opportunity in and we'll turn more focus to expanding. That's why we made this acquisition, and we think it's an interesting opportunity for us.

[Devin Ryan, Managing Director at JMP Securities]

Okay. Great, thanks. Follow up here, you know, Denis just touched on this, but we heard a lot about trading client deleveraging through the Q2, you know, that drove down prime brokerage and margin balances at a number of firms in the industry. It didn't seem to impact your trading or financing results. Can you give us any sense of where you think we are on deleveraging more broadly? You know, is there another leg that could exist here, or are clients now operating at lower levels of leverage relative to recent history and, you know, how that interplays with your trading outlook as well?

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

Sure. I appreciate the question. I mean, you know, connecting it back to some of the comments that David's made, looking back over the course of the last couple of years, you know, we've gone through an extraordinary period. We see an ongoing transition into a new type of market environment. I'm sure there are some clients that have looked to delever themselves and position for the current operating environment. You know, we continue to see very high levels of client opportunity. There was a lot of engagement in the Q2, particularly in the macro businesses, clients approaching us to help them, you know, intermediate risk, other clients looking for financing, which is why we had record performance in FICC financing.

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

I think as we look, you know, forward, we're obviously starting the quarter, you know, with a buffer to our minimum capital position. I mean, very focused on the environment to deploy capital in the second half. We think there should be some good opportunities, and there may be clients that incrementally turn to us to help them navigate the opportunity. I think we feel well set up, and we're optimistic about the opportunities with clients going into the second half.

[Operator]

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Ebrahim Poonawala with Bank of America.

[Ebrahim Poonawala, Managing Director at Bank of America]

Hey, good morning. I guess just wanted to follow up on the strategic targets, David. You said multiple times on the call that you don't see any reason why Goldman won't achieve, I think, your ROTE target 15%-17% by 2024. When we think about that, I think where investors struggle with is just the lack of visibility on the revenue side and how quickly you can flex expenses. Give us a sense of, when we think about year-to-date ROTE about 13%, the journey from here to your targets, how much of that is reliant on the macro getting better versus do you think structurally the business can continue to become more profitable without any improvement in the macro?

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

Well, if we stayed in a macro environment, look, it's a good question. I understand, you know, where the question comes from. If we stayed in a macro environment like the first six months of this year for the next five years, I think it would have an impact on the journey with respect to returns. Although I do think that we'd be more resilient and probably do better than the base, you know, perception would be of the industry broadly, by the way, not just Goldman Sachs, if you really had that kind of environment, because the world would adapt to that kind of environment, and people would make changes in their businesses on the expense side, et cetera, you know, over time to make sure that they could deliver, you know, appropriately for shareholders.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

I think this has been a very difficult six months. There have been some big headwinds in the course of the six months. I don't expect to have the same headwinds in the next six months or the next twelve months. Now, that doesn't mean that the environment couldn't be worse or there couldn't be different headwinds that create different issues. I think to kind of take what's going on with some of the exogenous impact over the course of the last six months and translate it as a three or four-year thing forward, that's just not our base case. That's not our base case. If that was our base case, we would be much more aggressive and forward with respect to expense changes, investments, in the business, et cetera.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

That's not our base case. You know, we continue to move forward with a base case where we're pretty confident that we can deliver the level of revenues with an expense base and a resource allocation that we can adjust and be nimble with to deliver those returns. I just, you know, I just highlight, you know, that in the first half of the year, we're not that far off from what we said we need to accomplish over the next three years.

[Ebrahim Poonawala, Managing Director at Bank of America]

That's helpful. Thank you for that. Then, recognizing it's very challenging to predict trading activity. When you think about just good volatility versus bad volatility, do you see, given all the uncertainty on macros for central bank actions, et cetera, this in terms of FICC trading things to remain strong as we think about the back half of the year? Just whatever is in your crystal ball.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

Well, the good volatility, bad volatility has never been an expression that I've liked. I think about our business in markets as a business where we're serving our clients, and we're making sure that we're meeting their needs. That's why we've been very focused over the last 3, 4 years on really improving our approach to our clients, really improving our market share with our clients, adding financing as a capability to our clients, which is much more resilient and therefore puts a base in the revenues that did not exist before. Now, that doesn't mean that there can't be volatility in the intermediation part of the business.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

I'm not going to make a forecast as to what looks forward, but I think the investments we've made in our client focus, in our market shares and our financing business all give those markets businesses more ballast, you know, as we go forward. There will be environments where clients are more active, and we can capture that. There'll be environments where clients are a little bit more quiet, but we're prepared to serve them. I think if we get out of quarter to quarter and continue to look, you know, over three-year periods, you know, this is a very big business that generates very accretive returns, and serves our clients well.

[Operator]

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Daniel Fannon with Jefferies.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

Thanks. Good morning. Good morning. Dan?

[Operator]

Pardon the interruption. We'll move on to Matt O'Connor with Deutsche Bank.

[Matt O'Connor, Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Deutsche Bank]

Hi. Some good details on your loan portfolio and loan loss reserves on slide 11. Just wanted to ask specifically on the consumer book, you've got about 13% reserves to loans. Obviously, charge-offs are only 2% and change. How much of that reserve is kind of factoring in growth, seasoning, or, you know, just a more tough macro environment? How would you frame that?

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

Sure. I think I would frame it actually as a combination of those factors. You know, your seasoning point is fair as well. It's a less aged portfolio, if you will, than certain other broad-based consumer portfolios. There's an element of seasoning. There's an element of the overall macro environment that sort of come together to cause us to conclude that that's the appropriate place to be. You know, you do make reference to charge-offs. Obviously, firm-wide, they're flat quarter-over-quarter, wholesale down slightly, consumer is up a little bit. Those are some of the factors that we also take into account and look at.

[Matt O'Connor, Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Deutsche Bank]

I know earlier you were asked about kind of through the cycle provisioning and, anything specifically on consumer charge-offs as we think about, those portfolios, what you would expect once you have the seasoning and, what those levels would be, not in a recession, but just more kind of through the cycle?

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

Yeah, I think, I mean, I think through the cycle is where we are in terms of our observations. You know, whether the impact presently is more a function of normalization from really quite exceptional set of conditions in the last year. You know, the starting point, the overall health of the consumer is very strong. The credit environment for consumers has been very, very benign. I think you need to take stock of sort of where you're starting from. Obviously, if the environment continues to persist more negatively, and certainly if we were to move towards recession, then we would expect, you know, an increase in that regard.

[Operator]

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Gerard Cassidy with RBC.

[Gerard Cassidy, Managing Director and Head of US Bank Equity Strategy at RBC]

Thank you. Good morning. David, in the past couple of years, you guys have focused on reducing your equity portfolio so that the volatility in earnings would be less. Can you share with us where you are on that progress? Are you at a level that you're comfortable with or you still got some more to go in reducing that portfolio?

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

Sure. You know, I’ll answer at a very high level, and then I’m gonna have Denis walk you through some specific details. I am pleased with the progress, but not comfortable with where we are. Comfortable is probably the wrong word. I’m pleased with the progress. I’d like us to continue to accelerate to make more progress. You know, I think we’re going to do or we’re going to make progress over the course of the coming 12, 24 months. Our progress, we’ve made a lot of progress. It was slowed also by the fact that we went through a period in 2021 where the value of a lot of these assets grew very meaningfully even as we were selling things. Why don’t I have Denis walk you through-

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

Sure.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

Some high-level numbers that we put out there.

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

Yeah. A couple of things. I think we're well on our way in terms of the journey. We remain completely committed to the progress and the direction of travel. You'll note there were no particular additions over the course of the last quarter. We continued to move down certain of the on-balance sheet equity exposures. You know, we have a detailed asset-by-asset plan that we are executing on. You know, looking at our results coming through CCAR, obviously the Fed recognized our strong PPNR. We also suspect that the way they concluded the ultimate decision around SCB had something to do with the nature of our on-balance sheet equity investments and the shocks that they choose to apply against that portfolio.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

That's incremental affirmation that we've selected the right strategy, and that if anything, we should continue to move forward, maybe even accelerate the rate of disposition, you know, remaining mindful of the overall environment and the ability to execute. I think, you know, the direction of travel for us and our commitment to reducing those exposures is completely unchanged. Very good. Just as a follow-up, maybe you guys can give us a little deeper color into the ECM business. Obviously, according to the Dealogic numbers, you know, the first six months of this year, we all know were very weak, and market conditions we recognize as being the driver. David, you alluded to maybe that price expectations are coming down. Was it primarily just the volatility that pushed everybody to the sideline?

[Gerard Cassidy, Managing Director and Head of US Bank Equity Strategy at RBC]

Was it lower valuations that pushed them there? What did you guys see as the biggest drivers for these really weak numbers for the industry, not just for you folks?

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

Yeah, it's a combination. I think it's a combination, Gerard, of all those things. You had a meaningful decrease in values in the public market and in the private market. You also had real volatility. People go down the road, you know, doing an IPO, it's like a tanker. It's heading down the road. It takes months and months and months of preparation, sometimes years of preparation, and you get in your mind, and you get with all the shareholders that you're gonna go public at a particular value, a particular price, and all of a sudden the value of the price is 20% or 30% less, and the whole tanker just stops. They can't turn on a dime and get everybody's mind reset.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

You know, I think a shift in valuations and that volatility had a big impact. You know, the period in terms of the anemic nature of Equity Capital Markets issuance kind of reminds me of the period in 2002, where we obviously had, you know, enormous growth in Equity Capital Markets activity in 1999, 2000, 2001. In March 2001, you started to see a real change in market and valuation. It was the beginning of a decline in the Nasdaq, where the Nasdaq ultimately went down 85%. I'm not saying that that's gonna happen again here, but really equity issuance shut off in late 2001, and 2002 was a really anemic year for equity issuance.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

It started picking back up again in 2003. There's a reset process with all of this. You know, I think we're on the journey of people's expectation around valuations being reset.

[Operator]

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Jim Mitchell with Seaport Global.

[Jim Mitchell, Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Global]

Hey, good morning. I just wanna circle back to your comment on managing to a 3% G-SIB and some of your comments about lower client activity versus last year. You know, I think on the flip side, you guys are pretty optimistic around, you know, still growing the financing business. It looks like trading assets are up year-over-year or flat year-over-year. Loans are up. Balance sheet is up. Is this just something about balance sheet and RWA growth slowing, or is there specific areas you think will shrink or you can cut?

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

I think we're looking at this holistically. You know, a lot of the questions speak to, you know, our strategic plan, our ability to execute, to hit targets over time. Given the environment that we're in right now, we see an opportunity to target a 3% GSIB. Obviously, you know, is for the benefit of 2024 and beyond, but the decision to be made is a current one. In terms of our ability to target that level, given what we've seen in terms of various balances, levels of client activity, et cetera, we think we can do that reasonably efficiently. We've had discussions with our business leaders. They know that that's the plan. That's what they're working on.

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

David did make a comment that should the environment change significantly or the needs of our clients change, we would reevaluate, but the current plan is to target that level of GSIB. You know, we've been obviously growing resource deployment, and that will constrain some of that resource deployment. In addition to targeting a 3% GSIB, we can at the same time deploy other financial resources to attractive client opportunities. Our expectation is that we'll be able to continue to support clients with attractive and accretive business activities while targeting a 3% GSIB.

[Jim Mitchell, Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Global]

Well, can you help us a little bit with the specifics of what you're actually targeting, or is that you're unwilling to disclose that?

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

We are currently targeting a 3% GSIB. We're not putting out a particular GSIB score that we're targeting.

[Operator]

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Daniel Fannon with Jefferies.

[Daniel Fannon, Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Jefferies]

Thanks. Try this again here. Just wanted to follow up on the $20 billion of commitments and alts that or third-party funds that you highlighted in the quarter. Clearly, there's still strong momentum. As you think about this market backdrop and the outlook for that, is there, you know, are you seeing any change in behavior or signs of slowing?

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

I would say, Dan, at the moment, at a high macro level, we're not seeing significant change in behavior. When you look at the institutional capital allocators around the world, the institutional capital allocators have significant allocations. Obviously, if the overall value of their portfolios decrease, the allocation percentage would shift, and so that will slow down capital raising. I think for leading big global platforms that are multi-product and global, I still think there's a secular growth trend around alternatives that's very, very attractive. Probably not at the exact same pace and ebullience that you saw in 2021, certainly a strong secular growth trend that kind of moves forward with respect to allocations of capital by big institutional allocators, you know, into the space.

[David Solomon, Chairman and CEO at Goldman Sachs]

I would say one of the places that a number of participants in the market, we have not been as big a participant, but there's been a lot of retail flow into the alternative space. You know, there, my insight there is that it's slowing, but it's not turned off, and it's still adequate. From what I can see in our private wealth lens that we have with a very high-end private wealth business, there's still significant interest in alternatives as people move forward. Something to watch. If the environment got much worse, maybe that would change. At the moment, not seeing indications that the changes are meaningful.

[Daniel Fannon, Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Jefferies]

Great. Just as a follow-up on the balance sheet outlook and the harvesting of some of the investments. You've historically given a line of sight number, you know, on these calls. Given, I would assume, the market backdrop in the short term, there's just less, you know, outlook or clarity around what you might be looking to sell here.

[Denis Coleman, CFO at Goldman Sachs]

I think that's right. Last quarter, we gave a line of sight of approximately $1 billion, which is what ended up happening. Right now, line of sight is less than $1 billion, just given the overall environment. That's where we see it right now.

[Operator]

Thank you. At this time, there are no further questions. Please continue with any closing remarks.

[Carey Halio, Head of Investor Relations at Goldman Sachs]

We just wanted to thank everyone for joining the call. Obviously, if any other questions arise, feel free to give me a call directly. Thanks so much. We'll speak to you soon.

[Operator]

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes the Goldman Sachs Q2 2022 earnings conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

Participants

Executives

• Carey Halio, Head of Investor Relations
• David Solomon, Chairman and CEO
• Denis Coleman, CFO

Analysts

• Glenn Schorr, Senior Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst at Evercore
• Christian Bolu, Senior Analyst at Autonomous Research
• Steven Chubak, Managing Director and Senior Analyst at Wolfe Research
• Betsy Graseck, Managing Director at Morgan Stanley
• Mike Mayo, Managing Director and Head of U.S. Large-Cap Bank Research at Wells Fargo Securities
• Brennan Hawken, Executive Director and Equity Research Analyst at UBS
• Devin Ryan, Managing Director at JMP Securities
• Ebrahim Poonawala, Managing Director at Bank of America
• Matt O'Connor, Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Deutsche Bank
• Gerard Cassidy, Managing Director and Head of US Bank Equity Strategy at RBC
• Jim Mitchell, Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Global
• Daniel Fannon, Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Jefferies