NASDAQ:TXN Texas Instruments Q4 2022 Earnings Report $302.73 -5.44 (-1.77%) Closing price 05/15/2026 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$302.87 +0.14 (+0.05%) As of 05/15/2026 07:58 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Texas Instruments EPS ResultsActual EPS$2.13Consensus EPS $1.96Beat/MissBeat by +$0.17One Year Ago EPS$2.27Texas Instruments Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$4.67 billionExpected Revenue$4.64 billionBeat/MissBeat by +$33.18 millionYoY Revenue Growth-3.40%Texas Instruments Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2022Date1/24/2023TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateTuesday, January 24, 2023Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsTexas Instruments' Q2 2026 earnings is estimated for Tuesday, July 28, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled on Tuesday, July 21, 2026 at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Texas Instruments Q4 2022 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJanuary 24, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Leadership Transition: Haviv Yalan will become President and CEO on April 1 with Rich Templeton remaining as Chairman, formalizing a new executive leadership team. Q4 Revenue & Market Trends: Revenue of $4.7 billion was down 11% sequentially and 3% year-over-year, as automotive grew mid-single-digits but industrial, personal electronics, communications and enterprise systems all saw double-digit declines. Margin & Profit Impact: Gross profit was $3.1 billion (66% margin, down 320 bps) and operating profit was $2.2 billion (47% margin), with net income of $2 billion or $2.13 per share. Strong Cash Flow & Returns: Q4 generated $2 billion in operating cash flow and $1 billion in CapEx, enabling $1.1 billion in dividends, $848 million in share repurchases, and $7.9 billion returned to shareholders over the past 12 months with an 8% dividend increase. 2023 Guidance & Focus: TI expects Q1 revenue of $4.17–4.53 billion and EPS of $1.64–1.90 with a 13–14% tax rate, while prioritizing industrial and automotive markets to drive chip content growth and long-term free cash flow per share. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallTexas Instruments Q4 202200:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:00:00Welcome to the Texas Instruments fourth quarter 2022 earnings release conference call. I'm Dave Pahl, Head of Investor Relations, and I'm joined by our Chief Financial Officer, Rafael Lizardi. For any of you who missed the release, you can find it on our website at ti.com/ir. This call is being broadcast live over the web and can be accessed through our website. In addition, today's call is being recorded and will be available via replay on our website. This call will include forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause TI's results to differ materially from management's current expectations. We encourage you to review the notice regarding forward-looking statements contained in the earnings release published today, as well as TI's most recent SEC filings for a more complete description. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:00:51First, you likely saw last week we announced that Haviv Ilan will become President and CEO on April first, and that Rich Templeton will continue as our Chairman. I'm sure you want to join me in congratulating both of them. Secondly, let me provide some information that's important to your calendars. Next week on Thursday, February second, at 10:00 A.M. Central Time, we'll have our capital management call. Similar to what we've done in the past, Rafael and I will summarize our progress and provide some insights into our business and our approach to capital allocation. This will include an update of our 300-millimeter capacity expansion plans to support the increasing confidence that we have in our long-term growth. Moving on, today we'll provide the following updates. First, I'll start with a quick overview of the quarter. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:01:48Next, I'll provide insight into fourth-quarter revenue results with some details of what we're seeing with respect to our customers and markets. I'll provide an annual summary of our revenue breakdown by end market. Lastly, Rafael will cover the financial results and our guidance for the first quarter of 2023. Starting with a quick overview. Revenue was $4.7 billion, a decrease of 11% sequentially and 3% from the same quarter a year ago. As expected, our results reflect weaker demand in all end markets with the exception of automotive. A component of the weaker demand was customers working to reduce their inventories. In the first quarter, we expect a weaker than seasonal decline, with the exception of automotive, as we believe customers will continue to reduce inventory levels. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:02:40Turning to our segments, fourth quarter Analog revenue declined 5% year-over-year, and Embedded Processing grew 10%. Our other segment declined 11% from the year ago quarter. Now provide some insight into our fourth quarter revenue by end market. I'll focus on sequential performance again this quarter as it's more informative at this time. First, the industrial market was down about 10%. The automotive market was up mid-single digits with strength in most sectors. Personal electronics was down mid-teens with broad-based weakness. Next, communications equipment was down about 20%. Finally, enterprise systems was also down about 20%. Lastly, as we do at the end of each calendar year, I'll describe our revenue by end market for 2022. We break our end markets into six categories that are grouped by their life cycles and market characteristics. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:03:42The six end markets are industrial, automotive, personal electronics, which includes products such as mobile phones, PCs, tablets, and TVs, communications equipment, enterprise systems, and other, which is primarily calculators. As a percentage of revenue for 2022, industrial was 40%, automotive about 25%, personal electronics 20%, communications equipment 7%, enterprise systems 6%, and other was 2%. In 2022, industrial and automotive combined made up 65% of TI's revenue, up about three percentage points from 2021 and up from 42% in 2013. We see good opportunities in all of our markets, but we place additional strategic emphasis on industrial and automotive. Our industrial and automotive customers are increasingly turning to Analog and Embedded technologies to make their end products smarter, safer, more connected, and more efficient. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:04:52These trends have resulted and will continue to result in growing chip content per application, which will drive faster growth compared to our other markets. Rafael will now review profitability, capital management, and our outlook. Rafael. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:05:08Thanks, Dave, and good afternoon, everyone. As Dave mentioned, fourth quarter revenue was $4.7 billion. Gross profit in the quarter was $3.1 billion or 66% of revenue. From a year ago, gross profit decreased primarily due to lower revenue, increased capital expenditures, and the transition of LFAB-related charges to cost of revenue. Gross profit margin decreased 320 basis points. Operating expenses in the quarter were $863 million, up 9% from a year ago and about as expected. On a trailing twelve-month basis, operating expenses were $3.4 billion or 17% of revenue. Restructuring charges were $48 million in the fourth quarter and were associated with the LFAB factory pre-production cost. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:05:55Production started at the beginning of December, this cost transitioned to cost of revenue, where they will be reflected moving forward. In addition, depreciation has begun on these assets. Operating profit was $2.2 billion in the quarter or 47% of revenue. Operating profit was down 13% from the year-ago quarter. Net income in the fourth quarter was $2 billion or $2.13 per share. Earnings per share included an $0.11 benefit for items that were not in our original guidance. Let me now comment on our capital management results, starting with our cash generation. Cash flow from operations was $2 billion in the quarter. Capital expenditures were $1 billion in the quarter. Free cash flow on a trailing twelve-month basis was $5.9 billion, down 6% from a year-ago. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:06:45In the quarter, we paid $1.1 billion in dividends and repurchased $848 million of our stock. We have returned $7.9 billion in the past 12 months to owners. We also increased our dividend per share by 8% in the fourth quarter, marking our 19th year of dividend increases. Our balance sheet remains strong with $9.1 billion of cash and short-term investments at the end of the fourth quarter. In the quarter, we issued $800 million in debt. Total debt outstanding was $8.8 billion, with a weighted average coupon of 2.93%. Inventory was up $353 million from the prior quarter to $2.8 billion, and days were 157, up 24 days sequentially. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:07:34To summarize the benefits of the CHIPS Act, we accrued about $350 million on our balance sheet under long-term assets in fourth quarter. In addition to the $50 million accrued in the third quarter. These accruals are due to the 25% investment tax credit for investments in our U.S. factories. This will eventually flow through our income statement as lower depreciation, and we will receive the associated cash benefit in the future. Let's look at some of these results for the year. In 2022, cash flow from operations was $8.7 billion. Capital expenditures were $2.8 billion or 14% of revenue. Free cash flow for 2022 was $5.9 billion or 30% of revenue. Our cash flow reflects the strength of our business model. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:08:21As we have said, we believe that growth of free cash flow per share is the primary driver of long-term value. Turning to our outlook for the first quarter, we expect TI revenue in the range of $4.17 billion-$4.53 billion and earnings per share to be in the range of $1.64-$1.90. We now expect our 2023 annual effective tax rate to be about 13%-14%. In closing, we will stay focused in the areas that add value in the long term. We continue to invest in our competitive advantages, which are manufacturing and technology, a broad product portfolio, reach of our channels, and diverse and long-lived positions. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:09:03We will continue to strengthen these advantages through disciplined capital allocation and by focusing on the best opportunities, which we believe will enable us to continue to deliver free cash flow per share growth over the long term. With that, let me turn it back to Dave. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:09:17Thanks, Rafael. Operator, you can now open the lines for questions. In order to provide as many of you as possible an opportunity to ask your questions, please limit yourself to a single question. After our response, we'll provide you an opportunity for an additional follow-up. Operator? Operator00:09:36Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, simply press the star key followed by the digit one on your telephone keypad. Also, if you are using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Once again, press star 1 at this time. We'll first hear from Chris Danely of Credit Suisse. Chris CasoAnalyst at Credit Suisse00:09:57Yes, thank you. Good evening. I guess the first question is, if you could just maybe characterize, you know, what you're seeing going to Q1. You're talking about that being worse than seasonal. Is that also broadly based in terms of the decline as you've seen in Q4? You know, I know you don't guide by segment, but any kind of color you could provide by segment as to what you're seeing and the extent to which customers are burning inventory as you go into the first quarter. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:10:27Yeah, Chris, thanks for that question. I'd say that, you know, the trends that we saw in the fourth quarter will continue into first. Meaning that, we expect our end markets to decline with the exception of automotive. Automotive is continuing to be resilient. And we do believe, as you just said, that the customers are continuing to work to get their inventories lower. You have a follow-on? Chris CasoAnalyst at Credit Suisse00:11:01I do. Thank you. I wonder if you could speak about the pace of depreciation expenses as you go through next year. You spoke about RFAB, and it's, I know it started production and it's hitting depreciation now. Is there additional incremental depreciation coming from RFAB as we go through the year? You know, what happens to LFAB as you, I guess maybe the timing of that when that starts production and starts hitting depreciation? You know, how should we think about, you know, some of the benefits that come from CHIPS Act that tend to decrease depreciation over time? I'm sure you're going to speak about that on the Capital Day coming up as well. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:11:40Yeah. Let me take that. We're going to go through all of that, both the CapEx, depreciation, and ITC and the CHIPS Act in great detail next week. For now, what I would tell you is, as you said, RFAB2 is in production. Lehi is in production, so both of those are running. That cost now is in cost of revenue, and they're both depreciating. They're both depreciating, and that is a function of when the equipment is placed in service, it starts depreciating, right? As both of those ramp, the equipment goes in service starts depreciating. Big picture, you know, what we told you last year on depreciation was that it would ramp roughly linearly to about $2.5 billion in 2025. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:12:28Again, we'll give you an update on that next week. But I do want to say, just as I said 90 days ago, that since since we talked about this last year, our confidence surrounding our long-term growth prospects have only grown. As you alluded to, we've had the CHIPS Act also since last year, that legislation passed in August. We'll next week, we'll give you the all the puts and takes between those trends, and we'll paint a clearer picture at that point. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:12:57Yeah. Maybe, and maybe just to add a small piece. That linear ramp will go from about $1 billion of depreciation that we had this year at about a half a billion a year till we get to 2.5. Just kind of doing the math for you. Thanks, Chris. We'll go to the next caller, please. Operator00:13:17Next, we'll hear from Chris Danely of Citi. Chris DanelyAnalyst at Citi00:13:22All right, the Chris brothers. Hey, guys. Dave Pahl, I believe you said that your confidence in the long-term growth rate has only increased. Maybe just share with us what you've seen in the last three to six months that's giving you that confidence. Do you expect the, I guess, non-auto markets to bounce back this year? Conversely, would you expect auto to cool off or to remain strong all year? Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:13:46Yeah, I, you know, and again, thanks for the question, Chris Danely. I, it, the longer term growth rates are really, you know, we're speaking to how things are going to grow over the next three and five and 10 years. That higher confidence comes from, you know, the higher semiconductor content growth that we're seeing, particularly in industrial and automotive, and the fact that, you know, that those two markets now make up 2/3 of our revenue. Just as that structurally grows faster than the rest of the market, you know, we're convinced more than ever that that will continue to drive our top line. And, you know, also the products that we have inside of those markets. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:14:33I'd say, also the strong customer response we're getting to our geopolitically dependable capacity. Since we've shared publicly our plans, you know, last February in the capital management call, I just say that the response has been very, very strong. Those are really the three things that are adding to our confidence. You have a follow-up? Chris DanelyAnalyst at Citi00:14:56Yeah. One on inventory. It's bouncing up towards your long-term target. Can you talk about, you know, when you would start to ease back utilization rates to maintain that inventory? Maybe spend a little bit of time on the mix. I know there's still shortages out there. How long do you think it'll take to, I guess, balance out your inventory this year to achieve some sort of ideal mix? Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:15:21Yeah. Let me take that. First, big picture, let me point you to our scorecard, the one that we use for capital management when we talk about the objectives, and when it comes to inventory is to maintain high levels of customer service, keeping stable lead times while minimizing inventory obsolescence. You know our strategy and our portfolio is such that it's long-lived with a very diverse customer base, the risk of obsolescence is very low. That's a part of the equation. The other part is the upside that we get by having that inventory, both short-term and long-term, to support customers. That's why we're comfortable holding higher levels of inventory. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:16:05I've been talking about, you know, from current levels, we could add 1 billion-2 billion of additional inventory. The timing, you know, that all depends on revenue trends. You know, if they're higher, then it'll take longer. If those revenue trends are a little weaker, then it'll be a little faster to get there. You know, on the mix, there's a number of angles on that. You know, chip stock versus finished goods. We have a mix of both of those. In some cases, it makes sense to have more of one than the other, but they're both very low risk. That's how we think about it. Chris DanelyAnalyst at Citi00:16:39Great. Thank you. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:16:41We'll go to the next caller, please. Operator00:16:47Toshiya Hari of Goldman Sachs. Toshiya HariAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:16:50Hey, how's it going? Thank you so much for taking the question. Dave, I'm hoping you guys could talk a little bit about trends in China, what you saw in Q4, if there was any choppiness toward the end of the quarter, and more importantly, how you're thinking about Q1 and beyond. I guess there's hope out there that China as an economy bounces back in 2023. Are you guys seeing any early signs of a recovery in terms of end consumption of your products? Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:17:17Yeah. I'd say, you know, some of the disruptions that we saw earlier in the year, we didn't see any of that, you know, here in the, in the fourth quarter. So, you know, nothing exceptional to report, you know, with China as a region versus the other regions. You know, we long held the practice that, we call it out if there's something going on. Really, nothing exceptional. Certainly, you know, as that economy comes back and consumption increases in China, you know, obviously helping the world GDP, but, that would obviously, help us as well, is what we would expect. Do you have a follow on? Toshiya HariAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:18:03Yeah, I do. Your Analog business in the quarter was down, you know, 5% year-over-year. Timothy ArcuriAnalyst at UBS00:18:10You know, obviously, you guys are the first to report, so it's hard for us to compare and contrast how you guys did relative to your competition or your peer group. It feels like, you know, you may have underperformed in the quarter, and I realize it's only one quarter. What, what's the competitive landscape like today? What kind of pricing trends are you seeing as, you know, demand patterns start to soften? Thank you. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:18:34Yeah. Yeah. I'll take that question, and Rafael, if you like to add. You know, I think, you know, certainly looking at, you know, any particular quarter, as we've talked about before, you know, that our performance is just best measured over time. I think that that's the way that the markets behave and, you know, even looking at, you know, one year or even longer, you've got to look at three and five and 10 years of performance, especially when you go through choppy times like we've been through in the last 18 months or so. You know, so pricing, just to comment on that, I'd say that there's nothing unusual going on with pricing. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:19:18As you know, pricing doesn't move quickly in our markets. Our practices in pricing, though I know that they've changed with many of our peers, our practices have not changed. You know, we just continue to price aggressively in the marketplace. That, you know, pricing isn't the reason why customers choose our products. They're usually not the top few reasons why they choose our products. Really no changes on that front. Thank you for those questions, and we'll go to the next caller. Timothy ArcuriAnalyst at UBS00:19:51Thank you. Operator00:19:55Harlan Sur, JPMorgan. Harlan SurAnalyst at JPMorgan00:19:59Hello, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. You know, last earnings call, the team talked about seeing increasing cancellations. Did cancellations continue to increase through Q4? Did they level off? For your consignment-based business, you know, what are the aggregate trends that you're seeing within, you know, your customers 6-9 months, sort of rolling forecast? Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:20:20Yeah. Harlan, the first question is, you know, in a weakening environment, not too surprising, the cancellations were up in the quarter. We did see an increase there. You know, and from a consignment versus classic backlog customers, really not much difference there. You know, their visibility, even though we'll get visibility out six months, you know, their visibility to their demand can change, as we know, very rapidly within the, you know, 90 days or certainly even within 30 days as that those windows move along time. I would say that there's not, you know, much change in that. Oftentimes, if customers aren't canceling orders, what they're doing is rescheduling them back out in time. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:21:13Certainly seeing that happen as well. You have a follow on? Harlan SurAnalyst at JPMorgan00:21:18Embedded drove 10% year-over-year growth in the second half of last year. It also drove slight sequential growth in the fourth quarter. The business is holding up relatively well versus Analog, and I know that the team seems to have moved past some of the headwinds in this segment as you've sort of focused investments on selective markets and opportunities, right? Is that refocusing, like, helping the near-term trends in Embedded? With all of the restructuring now, how do you think about the forward opportunities and growth outlook for Embedded over the next few years? Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:21:51Yeah, yeah. Thanks. Great question. Thank you for it. Yeah, first, I would just say that are our efforts having a impact? They are. You know, and, I would just say that, you know, we're pleased with the progress that we're making there with Embedded. We believe that progress and those results just need to be measured again over time. We continue to work on that business and we'll continue to do that. When we think about the market opportunity for Embedded and Analog, we think that both of those markets have about the same growth opportunities. In time, you know, they'll, the growth rates will converge. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:22:34though they could be, you know, you could see differences in any given quarter, but, longer term, we believe, that they can grow at the same rates. Thank you. Harlan, we'll go to the next caller, please. Operator00:22:52Next, we'll hear from Timothy Arcuri of UBS. Timothy ArcuriAnalyst at UBS00:22:57Thanks a lot. Dave, I had a question about just the Analog business generally, both with respect to share and margins. The margins are quite a bit lower than in early 2021 on quite a bit more revenue. I guess, is that all just still supply chain related costs, do we get that back at some point? On share, just in that same point, the share, you know, we don't know what, you know, all of the calendar fourth quarter looks like, but it's pretty clear that the share is going to be down about 150 basis points this year, and you're kind of back to 2012 levels. I just wonder kind of what's going on there. Timothy ArcuriAnalyst at UBS00:23:34Is there some, you know, pricing issue that might explain why that share would be down so much? Thanks, Dave. Then I have a follow-up. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:23:42Let me go ahead and start. Yeah, let me address first on your margin question. You know, Analog is a huge portion of the company. So anything you're seeing in Analog is what you're seeing at the company level. When it comes to gross profit, we're very pleased with the results. It came in about as expected. It decreased, as we said in the prepared remarks, it decreased primarily due to lower revenue, the transition of LFAB-related costs to cost of revenue, as well as the cost related to increased investments over the last several quarters. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:24:16That are now flowing through the P&L. Those are long-term investments that are going to position us very well for top line growth for many years to come. You know, on the second part of the question, I think Dave already answered. You got to look at this over a long time, not any one quarter, and particularly during choppy times. You know, stay tuned on that. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:24:39Yeah. I'll just add that I think our approach to building closer relationships with customers has served us well. As you know, we've moved and taken more of our revenue direct, as well as providing services through ti.com. It's provided a lot of advantages, including, you know, us being better able to see and respond to changes in demand. You know, as customers are reducing their inventories now, you know, we haven't employed any long-term sales agreements or non-cancellable, non-reschedule contracts. We're really just focused on customers and trying to meet their needs and service them well for the long term. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:25:28I think all those things, has us in a position where we do believe that we're able to grow the top line faster over over the next few years. As we talked about, we'll give you some insight into that next week and how that's going to change some of our plans. Was that Tim's follow-up or? Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:25:51No. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:25:51Oh, you have follow-up, Tim? Timothy ArcuriAnalyst at UBS00:25:53I do, Dave Pahl. Thanks. Just a comment that autos grow in Q1, is that a year-over-year comment or you expect autos to be up on a, on a, you know, Q1-Q basis also in Q1? Thanks. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:26:03Yeah. year-over-year, you know, automotive was up about 30%. You know, just put that in context from fourth quarter 2019, I just picked that because it's pre-pandemic levels. Our revenues in auto are up, you know, in the mid-70s. We continue to see, you know, strong growth there. That's the year-over-year. The comment that we made before, that it was up mid-single digits, was a sequential comment, Tim. Thank you. We'll go to the next caller, please. Operator00:26:39Next, we'll hear from Ambrish Srivastava of BMO Capital Markets. Ambrish SrivastavaAnalyst at BMO Capital Markets00:26:45Hi. Thank you very much, Dave. I'll just stay with autos. It's an interesting data point versus the pre-pandemic. I'm just looking at the auto business and the rest of the business. Everything is decelerating as you would expect. Auto seems to be, if not accelerating, kind of in that high 20s, 30% range. I just wanted your perspective on, you know, what's your sense? Usually, all these things are pretty interconnected, and maybe it's a quarter or two quarters before everything kind of follows the same cadence. Would just love to get some perspective from you guys on the disparity between autos and the rest of the broader businesses. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:27:26Yeah. Ambrish, thanks. I, you know, I'd say that as we, you almost have to go back to, you know, the beginning of the pandemic and how revenues behaved as we went through first quarter and into second and third. If you remember, you know, as the pandemic spread in third quarter, you know, we saw wide and very deep cancellations across all of the markets, you know, including automotive. You know, as we all went home to set up our home offices, you know, we either bought a new monitor or printer or PC. Very quickly, our personal electronics customers came back and came back very strong, if you remember. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:28:18The other markets began to follow, but automotive was the last to respond. You know, people early in the pandemic weren't shopping for cars. They weren't going out of the house, so they had that issue. As manufacturers tried to reopen, they had more issues with COVID protocols and working, you know, to bring their plants back online. It's not too surprising that, you know, as it asynchronously came out, it's asynchronously going down. You know, all these markets, we believe over the long term will behave the same. You know, at some point, we believe that we will see a correction in automotive. It may not, but we just don't know. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:29:02We'll continue to, you know, ship product to customer demand. It's obviously very strong. There's lots of reasons why, besides us gaining share, there's more content, there's mix and other factors inside of that. Clearly, there's inventory built across all markets that's inclusive of automotive. Do you have a follow-up? Ambrish SrivastavaAnalyst at BMO Capital Markets00:29:23Sure. I did. Just a quick one on the, on the cash grant side of the CHIPS Act. Whatever I have read, it may be incorrect, but my recollection is that in Q1, Q2 timeframe, the government will delineate kind of the guidelines. What's your expectation of when that cash starts to come in? Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:29:48The CHIPS Act has both an ITC investment tax credit and grants. You're asking about the grants. We're still working through those details. We do not have an update to share right now. The applications open in February, so we're going to actively seek funding on those in whatever for whatever we could qualify. We're going to submit our application in February. Right now we don't have any information to share on that. All the accruals that we have taken so far, the 400 million that we have taken are all for the ITC, for the investment tax credit, 25% investment credit for U.S.-based manufacturing. Ambrish SrivastavaAnalyst at BMO Capital Markets00:30:34The timing on that, Rafael, you will let us know about when that flows through the cash flow later on, right? Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:30:41Yeah. In fact, let me take a second and kind of walk through how it flows through the financials. You can actually look at our balance sheet on the page four of our release. The other long-term assets, that is up to 1.1 billion, you can see the increase year-on-year. That's where the 400 million receivable is for the ITC. If we had not taken the ITC, that 400 million would have gone to property plant and equipment. You can see property plant and equipment is 6.9 billion. That would have been 7.3 billion. Instead it's on a long-term asset, a receivable, therefore, it's not going to depreciate. That 400 million doesn't depreciate because it's not part of PP&E. Eventually, we'll get the cash. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:31:21Now, to your question right now, based on our interpretation of the law, we're not going to get that cash until late 2024. Every year it'll be like one year in arrears, right? You get it kinda one year late. That could change. You know, clearly that's something that companies are advocating for to get that cash earlier. Right now, we're not planning to get that until 2024. Again, that's how you see it on the balance sheet, lower PP&E. You see a receivable instead. Because of lower PP&E, you have lower depreciation over the life of the asset. That, that receivable, because the receivable, eventually you get the cash, so it goes from a receivable to the cash line, right? Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:32:03eventually we return it to the owners of the company or use it for other corporate purposes. hopefully that answers your question. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:32:10Yeah, maybe just quickly. Ambrish SrivastavaAnalyst at BMO Capital Markets00:32:11Thank you very much. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:32:122024 timing is tied to when we file our taxes, for 2023, right? Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:32:18Yeah. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:32:19Yep. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:32:19Yeah. not to add more confusion, but we get the cash through the, through filing the taxes. However, this will not affect the tax rate. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:32:28Right. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:32:28Because the accounting will put that, as I just described, through lower PP&E, and you actually see the cash in the cash flow statement in the investing section. The actual receiving of the cash happens at tax filing time in October or so of September of every year. We just pay less taxes through that. Again, not to confuse you, the tax rate will not change. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:32:55Great. Okay. Ambrish SrivastavaAnalyst at BMO Capital Markets00:32:56I'm smarter in accounting. Thank you, guys. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:32:59Okay, operator, we have time for one more caller, please. Operator00:33:06Thank you. Our final question for today will come from Joshua Buchalter of Cowen. Joshua BuchalterSenior Equity Research Analyst at Cowen00:33:13Hey, guys. Thanks for squeezing me in. You mentioned customers getting inventory lower in the quarter. You know, you're more direct than your, than many of your peers, so you'd have a better, I guess, view into end demand, theoretically. Can you help us understand, you know, are we close to bottoming? Do you think we're getting to healthy levels? Were there particular end markets that saw more acute inventory correction in the short term? Thank you. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:33:38Yeah. Joshua, you know, maybe just quickly, obviously, when customers begin reducing inventory, it's never a one, you know, one quarter, phenomenon. It usually takes several quarters for that to happen. We won't have insight. It obviously will also depend on what happens to their end demand, you know, which we can't predict. But yeah, we do believe that we get better visibility because we do have more direct relationships with the, with customers, overall. You have a follow on? Joshua BuchalterSenior Equity Research Analyst at Cowen00:34:14Yeah. Thank you. You know, a lot of attention gets paid to your CapEx for obvious reasons, but R&D grew, I think 7%, 8% in 2022 after being flat for a few years. You know, I think you guys, fair or unfair, get dinged for under-investing on the R&D line. I was wondering, could you walk through some of your priorities for that spending and how should we think about R&D into 2023? Recognize it might be a question for next week. Thank you. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:34:39Sure. No, I'm happy to address that. First, these are long-term investments in nature. The R&D, clearly, that's where we get the continue to build the broad portfolio. That's where we have process technology. That will get results over many, many years into the future. We're going to protect those investments. It's not just R&D. Even in SG&A, we have areas that are tied to capabilities. ti.com is the best example. That's another place where we're investing, and that's tied to long-term top-line growth of the company to be strengthening the reach of channels advantage. You could add CapEx to that picture. That's also obviously a long-term investment to strengthen our manufacturing and technology advantage. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:35:26over the last four or five years, our OpEx, so R&D and SG&A, they've been at a very steady $3.2 billion for like four or five years. This year, for the first time, we took that up to3.4 billion. We went up a little bit as we increased investments and actually there was an impact due to inflation, which we're not immune to that. You can expect that to continue increasing a little bit in 2023 and over the next several years as we continue to increase investments. There's also the inflation component. Big picture, those are great long-term investments that will fuel the growth for the company over the next 10-15 years. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:36:09Okay. Thank you, Joshua. Thank you all for joining us. Again, we look forward to sharing with you our capital management update next Thursday, February 2nd at 10:00 A.M. Central Time. A replay of this call will be available shortly on our website. Good evening. Operator00:36:27That does conclude today's conference. Thank you all for your participation. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:00:00Welcome to the Texas Instruments fourth quarter 2022 earnings release conference call. I'm Dave Pahl, Head of Investor Relations, and I'm joined by our Chief Financial Officer, Rafael Lizardi. For any of you who missed the release, you can find it on our website at ti.com/ir. This call is being broadcast live over the web and can be accessed through our website. In addition, today's call is being recorded and will be available via replay on our website. This call will include forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause TI's results to differ materially from management's current expectations. We encourage you to review the notice regarding forward-looking statements contained in the earnings release published today, as well as TI's most recent SEC filings for a more complete description. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:00:51First, you likely saw last week we announced that Haviv Ilan will become President and CEO on April first, and that Rich Templeton will continue as our Chairman. I'm sure you want to join me in congratulating both of them. Secondly, let me provide some information that's important to your calendars. Next week on Thursday, February second, at 10:00 A.M. Central Time, we'll have our capital management call. Similar to what we've done in the past, Rafael and I will summarize our progress and provide some insights into our business and our approach to capital allocation. This will include an update of our 300-millimeter capacity expansion plans to support the increasing confidence that we have in our long-term growth. Moving on, today we'll provide the following updates. First, I'll start with a quick overview of the quarter. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:01:48Next, I'll provide insight into fourth-quarter revenue results with some details of what we're seeing with respect to our customers and markets. I'll provide an annual summary of our revenue breakdown by end market. Lastly, Rafael will cover the financial results and our guidance for the first quarter of 2023. Starting with a quick overview. Revenue was $4.7 billion, a decrease of 11% sequentially and 3% from the same quarter a year ago. As expected, our results reflect weaker demand in all end markets with the exception of automotive. A component of the weaker demand was customers working to reduce their inventories. In the first quarter, we expect a weaker than seasonal decline, with the exception of automotive, as we believe customers will continue to reduce inventory levels. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:02:40Turning to our segments, fourth quarter Analog revenue declined 5% year-over-year, and Embedded Processing grew 10%. Our other segment declined 11% from the year ago quarter. Now provide some insight into our fourth quarter revenue by end market. I'll focus on sequential performance again this quarter as it's more informative at this time. First, the industrial market was down about 10%. The automotive market was up mid-single digits with strength in most sectors. Personal electronics was down mid-teens with broad-based weakness. Next, communications equipment was down about 20%. Finally, enterprise systems was also down about 20%. Lastly, as we do at the end of each calendar year, I'll describe our revenue by end market for 2022. We break our end markets into six categories that are grouped by their life cycles and market characteristics. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:03:42The six end markets are industrial, automotive, personal electronics, which includes products such as mobile phones, PCs, tablets, and TVs, communications equipment, enterprise systems, and other, which is primarily calculators. As a percentage of revenue for 2022, industrial was 40%, automotive about 25%, personal electronics 20%, communications equipment 7%, enterprise systems 6%, and other was 2%. In 2022, industrial and automotive combined made up 65% of TI's revenue, up about three percentage points from 2021 and up from 42% in 2013. We see good opportunities in all of our markets, but we place additional strategic emphasis on industrial and automotive. Our industrial and automotive customers are increasingly turning to Analog and Embedded technologies to make their end products smarter, safer, more connected, and more efficient. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:04:52These trends have resulted and will continue to result in growing chip content per application, which will drive faster growth compared to our other markets. Rafael will now review profitability, capital management, and our outlook. Rafael. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:05:08Thanks, Dave, and good afternoon, everyone. As Dave mentioned, fourth quarter revenue was $4.7 billion. Gross profit in the quarter was $3.1 billion or 66% of revenue. From a year ago, gross profit decreased primarily due to lower revenue, increased capital expenditures, and the transition of LFAB-related charges to cost of revenue. Gross profit margin decreased 320 basis points. Operating expenses in the quarter were $863 million, up 9% from a year ago and about as expected. On a trailing twelve-month basis, operating expenses were $3.4 billion or 17% of revenue. Restructuring charges were $48 million in the fourth quarter and were associated with the LFAB factory pre-production cost. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:05:55Production started at the beginning of December, this cost transitioned to cost of revenue, where they will be reflected moving forward. In addition, depreciation has begun on these assets. Operating profit was $2.2 billion in the quarter or 47% of revenue. Operating profit was down 13% from the year-ago quarter. Net income in the fourth quarter was $2 billion or $2.13 per share. Earnings per share included an $0.11 benefit for items that were not in our original guidance. Let me now comment on our capital management results, starting with our cash generation. Cash flow from operations was $2 billion in the quarter. Capital expenditures were $1 billion in the quarter. Free cash flow on a trailing twelve-month basis was $5.9 billion, down 6% from a year-ago. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:06:45In the quarter, we paid $1.1 billion in dividends and repurchased $848 million of our stock. We have returned $7.9 billion in the past 12 months to owners. We also increased our dividend per share by 8% in the fourth quarter, marking our 19th year of dividend increases. Our balance sheet remains strong with $9.1 billion of cash and short-term investments at the end of the fourth quarter. In the quarter, we issued $800 million in debt. Total debt outstanding was $8.8 billion, with a weighted average coupon of 2.93%. Inventory was up $353 million from the prior quarter to $2.8 billion, and days were 157, up 24 days sequentially. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:07:34To summarize the benefits of the CHIPS Act, we accrued about $350 million on our balance sheet under long-term assets in fourth quarter. In addition to the $50 million accrued in the third quarter. These accruals are due to the 25% investment tax credit for investments in our U.S. factories. This will eventually flow through our income statement as lower depreciation, and we will receive the associated cash benefit in the future. Let's look at some of these results for the year. In 2022, cash flow from operations was $8.7 billion. Capital expenditures were $2.8 billion or 14% of revenue. Free cash flow for 2022 was $5.9 billion or 30% of revenue. Our cash flow reflects the strength of our business model. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:08:21As we have said, we believe that growth of free cash flow per share is the primary driver of long-term value. Turning to our outlook for the first quarter, we expect TI revenue in the range of $4.17 billion-$4.53 billion and earnings per share to be in the range of $1.64-$1.90. We now expect our 2023 annual effective tax rate to be about 13%-14%. In closing, we will stay focused in the areas that add value in the long term. We continue to invest in our competitive advantages, which are manufacturing and technology, a broad product portfolio, reach of our channels, and diverse and long-lived positions. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:09:03We will continue to strengthen these advantages through disciplined capital allocation and by focusing on the best opportunities, which we believe will enable us to continue to deliver free cash flow per share growth over the long term. With that, let me turn it back to Dave. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:09:17Thanks, Rafael. Operator, you can now open the lines for questions. In order to provide as many of you as possible an opportunity to ask your questions, please limit yourself to a single question. After our response, we'll provide you an opportunity for an additional follow-up. Operator? Operator00:09:36Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, simply press the star key followed by the digit one on your telephone keypad. Also, if you are using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Once again, press star 1 at this time. We'll first hear from Chris Danely of Credit Suisse. Chris CasoAnalyst at Credit Suisse00:09:57Yes, thank you. Good evening. I guess the first question is, if you could just maybe characterize, you know, what you're seeing going to Q1. You're talking about that being worse than seasonal. Is that also broadly based in terms of the decline as you've seen in Q4? You know, I know you don't guide by segment, but any kind of color you could provide by segment as to what you're seeing and the extent to which customers are burning inventory as you go into the first quarter. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:10:27Yeah, Chris, thanks for that question. I'd say that, you know, the trends that we saw in the fourth quarter will continue into first. Meaning that, we expect our end markets to decline with the exception of automotive. Automotive is continuing to be resilient. And we do believe, as you just said, that the customers are continuing to work to get their inventories lower. You have a follow-on? Chris CasoAnalyst at Credit Suisse00:11:01I do. Thank you. I wonder if you could speak about the pace of depreciation expenses as you go through next year. You spoke about RFAB, and it's, I know it started production and it's hitting depreciation now. Is there additional incremental depreciation coming from RFAB as we go through the year? You know, what happens to LFAB as you, I guess maybe the timing of that when that starts production and starts hitting depreciation? You know, how should we think about, you know, some of the benefits that come from CHIPS Act that tend to decrease depreciation over time? I'm sure you're going to speak about that on the Capital Day coming up as well. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:11:40Yeah. Let me take that. We're going to go through all of that, both the CapEx, depreciation, and ITC and the CHIPS Act in great detail next week. For now, what I would tell you is, as you said, RFAB2 is in production. Lehi is in production, so both of those are running. That cost now is in cost of revenue, and they're both depreciating. They're both depreciating, and that is a function of when the equipment is placed in service, it starts depreciating, right? As both of those ramp, the equipment goes in service starts depreciating. Big picture, you know, what we told you last year on depreciation was that it would ramp roughly linearly to about $2.5 billion in 2025. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:12:28Again, we'll give you an update on that next week. But I do want to say, just as I said 90 days ago, that since since we talked about this last year, our confidence surrounding our long-term growth prospects have only grown. As you alluded to, we've had the CHIPS Act also since last year, that legislation passed in August. We'll next week, we'll give you the all the puts and takes between those trends, and we'll paint a clearer picture at that point. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:12:57Yeah. Maybe, and maybe just to add a small piece. That linear ramp will go from about $1 billion of depreciation that we had this year at about a half a billion a year till we get to 2.5. Just kind of doing the math for you. Thanks, Chris. We'll go to the next caller, please. Operator00:13:17Next, we'll hear from Chris Danely of Citi. Chris DanelyAnalyst at Citi00:13:22All right, the Chris brothers. Hey, guys. Dave Pahl, I believe you said that your confidence in the long-term growth rate has only increased. Maybe just share with us what you've seen in the last three to six months that's giving you that confidence. Do you expect the, I guess, non-auto markets to bounce back this year? Conversely, would you expect auto to cool off or to remain strong all year? Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:13:46Yeah, I, you know, and again, thanks for the question, Chris Danely. I, it, the longer term growth rates are really, you know, we're speaking to how things are going to grow over the next three and five and 10 years. That higher confidence comes from, you know, the higher semiconductor content growth that we're seeing, particularly in industrial and automotive, and the fact that, you know, that those two markets now make up 2/3 of our revenue. Just as that structurally grows faster than the rest of the market, you know, we're convinced more than ever that that will continue to drive our top line. And, you know, also the products that we have inside of those markets. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:14:33I'd say, also the strong customer response we're getting to our geopolitically dependable capacity. Since we've shared publicly our plans, you know, last February in the capital management call, I just say that the response has been very, very strong. Those are really the three things that are adding to our confidence. You have a follow-up? Chris DanelyAnalyst at Citi00:14:56Yeah. One on inventory. It's bouncing up towards your long-term target. Can you talk about, you know, when you would start to ease back utilization rates to maintain that inventory? Maybe spend a little bit of time on the mix. I know there's still shortages out there. How long do you think it'll take to, I guess, balance out your inventory this year to achieve some sort of ideal mix? Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:15:21Yeah. Let me take that. First, big picture, let me point you to our scorecard, the one that we use for capital management when we talk about the objectives, and when it comes to inventory is to maintain high levels of customer service, keeping stable lead times while minimizing inventory obsolescence. You know our strategy and our portfolio is such that it's long-lived with a very diverse customer base, the risk of obsolescence is very low. That's a part of the equation. The other part is the upside that we get by having that inventory, both short-term and long-term, to support customers. That's why we're comfortable holding higher levels of inventory. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:16:05I've been talking about, you know, from current levels, we could add 1 billion-2 billion of additional inventory. The timing, you know, that all depends on revenue trends. You know, if they're higher, then it'll take longer. If those revenue trends are a little weaker, then it'll be a little faster to get there. You know, on the mix, there's a number of angles on that. You know, chip stock versus finished goods. We have a mix of both of those. In some cases, it makes sense to have more of one than the other, but they're both very low risk. That's how we think about it. Chris DanelyAnalyst at Citi00:16:39Great. Thank you. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:16:41We'll go to the next caller, please. Operator00:16:47Toshiya Hari of Goldman Sachs. Toshiya HariAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:16:50Hey, how's it going? Thank you so much for taking the question. Dave, I'm hoping you guys could talk a little bit about trends in China, what you saw in Q4, if there was any choppiness toward the end of the quarter, and more importantly, how you're thinking about Q1 and beyond. I guess there's hope out there that China as an economy bounces back in 2023. Are you guys seeing any early signs of a recovery in terms of end consumption of your products? Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:17:17Yeah. I'd say, you know, some of the disruptions that we saw earlier in the year, we didn't see any of that, you know, here in the, in the fourth quarter. So, you know, nothing exceptional to report, you know, with China as a region versus the other regions. You know, we long held the practice that, we call it out if there's something going on. Really, nothing exceptional. Certainly, you know, as that economy comes back and consumption increases in China, you know, obviously helping the world GDP, but, that would obviously, help us as well, is what we would expect. Do you have a follow on? Toshiya HariAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:18:03Yeah, I do. Your Analog business in the quarter was down, you know, 5% year-over-year. Timothy ArcuriAnalyst at UBS00:18:10You know, obviously, you guys are the first to report, so it's hard for us to compare and contrast how you guys did relative to your competition or your peer group. It feels like, you know, you may have underperformed in the quarter, and I realize it's only one quarter. What, what's the competitive landscape like today? What kind of pricing trends are you seeing as, you know, demand patterns start to soften? Thank you. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:18:34Yeah. Yeah. I'll take that question, and Rafael, if you like to add. You know, I think, you know, certainly looking at, you know, any particular quarter, as we've talked about before, you know, that our performance is just best measured over time. I think that that's the way that the markets behave and, you know, even looking at, you know, one year or even longer, you've got to look at three and five and 10 years of performance, especially when you go through choppy times like we've been through in the last 18 months or so. You know, so pricing, just to comment on that, I'd say that there's nothing unusual going on with pricing. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:19:18As you know, pricing doesn't move quickly in our markets. Our practices in pricing, though I know that they've changed with many of our peers, our practices have not changed. You know, we just continue to price aggressively in the marketplace. That, you know, pricing isn't the reason why customers choose our products. They're usually not the top few reasons why they choose our products. Really no changes on that front. Thank you for those questions, and we'll go to the next caller. Timothy ArcuriAnalyst at UBS00:19:51Thank you. Operator00:19:55Harlan Sur, JPMorgan. Harlan SurAnalyst at JPMorgan00:19:59Hello, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. You know, last earnings call, the team talked about seeing increasing cancellations. Did cancellations continue to increase through Q4? Did they level off? For your consignment-based business, you know, what are the aggregate trends that you're seeing within, you know, your customers 6-9 months, sort of rolling forecast? Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:20:20Yeah. Harlan, the first question is, you know, in a weakening environment, not too surprising, the cancellations were up in the quarter. We did see an increase there. You know, and from a consignment versus classic backlog customers, really not much difference there. You know, their visibility, even though we'll get visibility out six months, you know, their visibility to their demand can change, as we know, very rapidly within the, you know, 90 days or certainly even within 30 days as that those windows move along time. I would say that there's not, you know, much change in that. Oftentimes, if customers aren't canceling orders, what they're doing is rescheduling them back out in time. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:21:13Certainly seeing that happen as well. You have a follow on? Harlan SurAnalyst at JPMorgan00:21:18Embedded drove 10% year-over-year growth in the second half of last year. It also drove slight sequential growth in the fourth quarter. The business is holding up relatively well versus Analog, and I know that the team seems to have moved past some of the headwinds in this segment as you've sort of focused investments on selective markets and opportunities, right? Is that refocusing, like, helping the near-term trends in Embedded? With all of the restructuring now, how do you think about the forward opportunities and growth outlook for Embedded over the next few years? Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:21:51Yeah, yeah. Thanks. Great question. Thank you for it. Yeah, first, I would just say that are our efforts having a impact? They are. You know, and, I would just say that, you know, we're pleased with the progress that we're making there with Embedded. We believe that progress and those results just need to be measured again over time. We continue to work on that business and we'll continue to do that. When we think about the market opportunity for Embedded and Analog, we think that both of those markets have about the same growth opportunities. In time, you know, they'll, the growth rates will converge. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:22:34though they could be, you know, you could see differences in any given quarter, but, longer term, we believe, that they can grow at the same rates. Thank you. Harlan, we'll go to the next caller, please. Operator00:22:52Next, we'll hear from Timothy Arcuri of UBS. Timothy ArcuriAnalyst at UBS00:22:57Thanks a lot. Dave, I had a question about just the Analog business generally, both with respect to share and margins. The margins are quite a bit lower than in early 2021 on quite a bit more revenue. I guess, is that all just still supply chain related costs, do we get that back at some point? On share, just in that same point, the share, you know, we don't know what, you know, all of the calendar fourth quarter looks like, but it's pretty clear that the share is going to be down about 150 basis points this year, and you're kind of back to 2012 levels. I just wonder kind of what's going on there. Timothy ArcuriAnalyst at UBS00:23:34Is there some, you know, pricing issue that might explain why that share would be down so much? Thanks, Dave. Then I have a follow-up. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:23:42Let me go ahead and start. Yeah, let me address first on your margin question. You know, Analog is a huge portion of the company. So anything you're seeing in Analog is what you're seeing at the company level. When it comes to gross profit, we're very pleased with the results. It came in about as expected. It decreased, as we said in the prepared remarks, it decreased primarily due to lower revenue, the transition of LFAB-related costs to cost of revenue, as well as the cost related to increased investments over the last several quarters. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:24:16That are now flowing through the P&L. Those are long-term investments that are going to position us very well for top line growth for many years to come. You know, on the second part of the question, I think Dave already answered. You got to look at this over a long time, not any one quarter, and particularly during choppy times. You know, stay tuned on that. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:24:39Yeah. I'll just add that I think our approach to building closer relationships with customers has served us well. As you know, we've moved and taken more of our revenue direct, as well as providing services through ti.com. It's provided a lot of advantages, including, you know, us being better able to see and respond to changes in demand. You know, as customers are reducing their inventories now, you know, we haven't employed any long-term sales agreements or non-cancellable, non-reschedule contracts. We're really just focused on customers and trying to meet their needs and service them well for the long term. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:25:28I think all those things, has us in a position where we do believe that we're able to grow the top line faster over over the next few years. As we talked about, we'll give you some insight into that next week and how that's going to change some of our plans. Was that Tim's follow-up or? Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:25:51No. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:25:51Oh, you have follow-up, Tim? Timothy ArcuriAnalyst at UBS00:25:53I do, Dave Pahl. Thanks. Just a comment that autos grow in Q1, is that a year-over-year comment or you expect autos to be up on a, on a, you know, Q1-Q basis also in Q1? Thanks. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:26:03Yeah. year-over-year, you know, automotive was up about 30%. You know, just put that in context from fourth quarter 2019, I just picked that because it's pre-pandemic levels. Our revenues in auto are up, you know, in the mid-70s. We continue to see, you know, strong growth there. That's the year-over-year. The comment that we made before, that it was up mid-single digits, was a sequential comment, Tim. Thank you. We'll go to the next caller, please. Operator00:26:39Next, we'll hear from Ambrish Srivastava of BMO Capital Markets. Ambrish SrivastavaAnalyst at BMO Capital Markets00:26:45Hi. Thank you very much, Dave. I'll just stay with autos. It's an interesting data point versus the pre-pandemic. I'm just looking at the auto business and the rest of the business. Everything is decelerating as you would expect. Auto seems to be, if not accelerating, kind of in that high 20s, 30% range. I just wanted your perspective on, you know, what's your sense? Usually, all these things are pretty interconnected, and maybe it's a quarter or two quarters before everything kind of follows the same cadence. Would just love to get some perspective from you guys on the disparity between autos and the rest of the broader businesses. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:27:26Yeah. Ambrish, thanks. I, you know, I'd say that as we, you almost have to go back to, you know, the beginning of the pandemic and how revenues behaved as we went through first quarter and into second and third. If you remember, you know, as the pandemic spread in third quarter, you know, we saw wide and very deep cancellations across all of the markets, you know, including automotive. You know, as we all went home to set up our home offices, you know, we either bought a new monitor or printer or PC. Very quickly, our personal electronics customers came back and came back very strong, if you remember. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:28:18The other markets began to follow, but automotive was the last to respond. You know, people early in the pandemic weren't shopping for cars. They weren't going out of the house, so they had that issue. As manufacturers tried to reopen, they had more issues with COVID protocols and working, you know, to bring their plants back online. It's not too surprising that, you know, as it asynchronously came out, it's asynchronously going down. You know, all these markets, we believe over the long term will behave the same. You know, at some point, we believe that we will see a correction in automotive. It may not, but we just don't know. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:29:02We'll continue to, you know, ship product to customer demand. It's obviously very strong. There's lots of reasons why, besides us gaining share, there's more content, there's mix and other factors inside of that. Clearly, there's inventory built across all markets that's inclusive of automotive. Do you have a follow-up? Ambrish SrivastavaAnalyst at BMO Capital Markets00:29:23Sure. I did. Just a quick one on the, on the cash grant side of the CHIPS Act. Whatever I have read, it may be incorrect, but my recollection is that in Q1, Q2 timeframe, the government will delineate kind of the guidelines. What's your expectation of when that cash starts to come in? Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:29:48The CHIPS Act has both an ITC investment tax credit and grants. You're asking about the grants. We're still working through those details. We do not have an update to share right now. The applications open in February, so we're going to actively seek funding on those in whatever for whatever we could qualify. We're going to submit our application in February. Right now we don't have any information to share on that. All the accruals that we have taken so far, the 400 million that we have taken are all for the ITC, for the investment tax credit, 25% investment credit for U.S.-based manufacturing. Ambrish SrivastavaAnalyst at BMO Capital Markets00:30:34The timing on that, Rafael, you will let us know about when that flows through the cash flow later on, right? Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:30:41Yeah. In fact, let me take a second and kind of walk through how it flows through the financials. You can actually look at our balance sheet on the page four of our release. The other long-term assets, that is up to 1.1 billion, you can see the increase year-on-year. That's where the 400 million receivable is for the ITC. If we had not taken the ITC, that 400 million would have gone to property plant and equipment. You can see property plant and equipment is 6.9 billion. That would have been 7.3 billion. Instead it's on a long-term asset, a receivable, therefore, it's not going to depreciate. That 400 million doesn't depreciate because it's not part of PP&E. Eventually, we'll get the cash. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:31:21Now, to your question right now, based on our interpretation of the law, we're not going to get that cash until late 2024. Every year it'll be like one year in arrears, right? You get it kinda one year late. That could change. You know, clearly that's something that companies are advocating for to get that cash earlier. Right now, we're not planning to get that until 2024. Again, that's how you see it on the balance sheet, lower PP&E. You see a receivable instead. Because of lower PP&E, you have lower depreciation over the life of the asset. That, that receivable, because the receivable, eventually you get the cash, so it goes from a receivable to the cash line, right? Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:32:03eventually we return it to the owners of the company or use it for other corporate purposes. hopefully that answers your question. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:32:10Yeah, maybe just quickly. Ambrish SrivastavaAnalyst at BMO Capital Markets00:32:11Thank you very much. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:32:122024 timing is tied to when we file our taxes, for 2023, right? Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:32:18Yeah. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:32:19Yep. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:32:19Yeah. not to add more confusion, but we get the cash through the, through filing the taxes. However, this will not affect the tax rate. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:32:28Right. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:32:28Because the accounting will put that, as I just described, through lower PP&E, and you actually see the cash in the cash flow statement in the investing section. The actual receiving of the cash happens at tax filing time in October or so of September of every year. We just pay less taxes through that. Again, not to confuse you, the tax rate will not change. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:32:55Great. Okay. Ambrish SrivastavaAnalyst at BMO Capital Markets00:32:56I'm smarter in accounting. Thank you, guys. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:32:59Okay, operator, we have time for one more caller, please. Operator00:33:06Thank you. Our final question for today will come from Joshua Buchalter of Cowen. Joshua BuchalterSenior Equity Research Analyst at Cowen00:33:13Hey, guys. Thanks for squeezing me in. You mentioned customers getting inventory lower in the quarter. You know, you're more direct than your, than many of your peers, so you'd have a better, I guess, view into end demand, theoretically. Can you help us understand, you know, are we close to bottoming? Do you think we're getting to healthy levels? Were there particular end markets that saw more acute inventory correction in the short term? Thank you. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:33:38Yeah. Joshua, you know, maybe just quickly, obviously, when customers begin reducing inventory, it's never a one, you know, one quarter, phenomenon. It usually takes several quarters for that to happen. We won't have insight. It obviously will also depend on what happens to their end demand, you know, which we can't predict. But yeah, we do believe that we get better visibility because we do have more direct relationships with the, with customers, overall. You have a follow on? Joshua BuchalterSenior Equity Research Analyst at Cowen00:34:14Yeah. Thank you. You know, a lot of attention gets paid to your CapEx for obvious reasons, but R&D grew, I think 7%, 8% in 2022 after being flat for a few years. You know, I think you guys, fair or unfair, get dinged for under-investing on the R&D line. I was wondering, could you walk through some of your priorities for that spending and how should we think about R&D into 2023? Recognize it might be a question for next week. Thank you. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:34:39Sure. No, I'm happy to address that. First, these are long-term investments in nature. The R&D, clearly, that's where we get the continue to build the broad portfolio. That's where we have process technology. That will get results over many, many years into the future. We're going to protect those investments. It's not just R&D. Even in SG&A, we have areas that are tied to capabilities. ti.com is the best example. That's another place where we're investing, and that's tied to long-term top-line growth of the company to be strengthening the reach of channels advantage. You could add CapEx to that picture. That's also obviously a long-term investment to strengthen our manufacturing and technology advantage. Rafael LizardiCFO at Texas Instruments00:35:26over the last four or five years, our OpEx, so R&D and SG&A, they've been at a very steady $3.2 billion for like four or five years. This year, for the first time, we took that up to3.4 billion. We went up a little bit as we increased investments and actually there was an impact due to inflation, which we're not immune to that. You can expect that to continue increasing a little bit in 2023 and over the next several years as we continue to increase investments. There's also the inflation component. Big picture, those are great long-term investments that will fuel the growth for the company over the next 10-15 years. Dave PahlHead of Investor Relations at Texas Instruments00:36:09Okay. Thank you, Joshua. Thank you all for joining us. Again, we look forward to sharing with you our capital management update next Thursday, February 2nd at 10:00 A.M. Central Time. A replay of this call will be available shortly on our website. Good evening. Operator00:36:27That does conclude today's conference. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesDave PahlHead of Investor RelationsRafael LizardiCFOAnalystsAmbrish SrivastavaAnalyst at BMO Capital MarketsChris CasoAnalyst at Credit SuisseChris DanelyAnalyst at CitiHarlan SurAnalyst at JPMorganJoshua BuchalterSenior Equity Research Analyst at CowenTimothy ArcuriAnalyst at UBSToshiya HariAnalyst at Goldman SachsPowered by