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ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast California Water Service Group EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.03Consensus EPS $1.05Beat/MissMissed by -$0.02One Year Ago EPS$0.60California Water Service Group Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$299.60 millionExpected Revenue$289.55 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$10.05 millionYoY Revenue Growth+17.50%California Water Service Group Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2024Date10/31/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, October 31, 2024Conference Call Time11:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by California Water Service Group Q3 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrOctober 31, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Q3 operating revenue rose 17.5% to $299.6 million and net income increased to $60.7 million ($1.03 per diluted share), driven by new approved rates and higher customer usage. The CPUC approved advice letters to recover $94.2 million in regulatory balances through 2027, and the 2024 general rate case is on track with an assigned administrative law judge and commissioner. Cal Water invested a record $332.2 million in capital through nine months (86% of its 2024 budget), projecting rate base growth to $2.36 billion (up 7.3% year-over-year) and a potential 11.7% CAGR if new investments are approved. Beginning in Q4 2024, the company faces an incremental $226 million of PFAS mitigation projects not included in its current capital budget, increasing future expenditure commitments. The company received the EPA WaterSense Excellence Award for the second consecutive year and was named one of Newsweek’s Most Trustworthy Companies, highlighting its conservation efforts and corporate reputation. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallCalifornia Water Service Group Q3 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:01Thank you for standing by. My name is Kathleen, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the California Water Service Group third quarter 2024 earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. And if you would like to withdraw your question, just press the star one again. Thank you. And now, I would like to turn the call over to Jim Lynch, Senior Vice President, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead, sir. James P. LynchSVP, CFO, and Treasurer at California Water Service Group00:00:48Thank you, Kathleen. Welcome, everyone, to our third quarter 2024 results call for California Water Service Group. With me today is Marty Kropelnicki, our Chairman and CEO, and Greg Milleman, Vice President of Rates and Regulatory Affairs. Replay dial-in information for this call can be found in our quarterly results earnings release, which was issued earlier today. The replay will be available until December 30, 2024. As a reminder, before we begin, the company has a slide deck to accompany today's earnings call. The slide deck was furnished with an 8-K and is also available at the company's website at www.calwatergroup.com. Before looking at third quarter 2024 results, I'd like to take a few moments to address forward-looking statements. During the course of the call, the company may make certain forward-looking statements. James P. LynchSVP, CFO, and Treasurer at California Water Service Group00:01:45Because these statements deal with future events, they are subject to various risks and uncertainties, and actual results could differ materially from the company's current expectations. As a result, the company strongly advises all current shareholders, as well as interested parties, to carefully read and understand the company's disclosures on risks and uncertainties found in our Form 10-K, Form 10-Qs, press releases, and other reports filed from time to time with the Securities and Exchange Commission. And now, I'll turn the call over to Marty. Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:02:22Thanks, Jim. Good morning, everyone, and happy Halloween. We're happy you can join us here today. We're very pleased to share with you our results for the third quarter of 2024. There's really five main topics that we want to cover today, the first one being our strong third quarter financial performance that continues to benefit from the regulatory relief in the state of California. We want to give an update on the 2024 General Rate Case, where during the quarter we had our initial pre-conference hearing, and we've been assigned an administrative law judge and a commissioner to oversee our case. We received approval of certain advice letters from the California Public Utilities Commission, that's going to allow us to collect $94.2 million in certain regulatory balances through 2027. Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:03:06We want to talk about the record amount of capital that we've invested this year and what that looks like going into year-end, and then lastly, take a moment to talk about our continued environmental leadership and corporate recognition and talk about a few awards that we won during the quarter, but to start things off, let's do like we typically do and have Jim Lynch take you through some of the financial analysis that highlights the quarterly results. Jim, back to you. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:03:30Thanks, Marty. So as Marty mentioned, our Q3 2024 financial results continue to benefit from new rates and the rate structure authorized in our 2021 California GRC. As a result, our operating revenue for the quarter increased 17.5% to $299.6 million compared to our prior year Q3 operating revenue of $255 million. Net income for the quarter was $60.7 million for a $1.03 per diluted share compared to $34.4 million or $0.60 per diluted share in Q3 of 2023. The $44.6 million increase in Q3 2024 revenue was driven primarily by a $42.2 million increase in rates billed to customers as authorized in our regulatory filings and an increase in customer usage, including usage by new customers, of $9.6 million. These increases were offset by a $9.4 million reduction in our Monterey Water Rates Adjustment Mechanism, or our MWRAM. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:04:43Recall that the MWRAM is a rate adjustment mechanism that includes a tiered rate structure tied to usage. In periods of warm, dry weather, when usage increases, the MWRAM typically decreases. The balance typically increases in cooler, wet weather when usage declines. Q3 2024 operating expenses were $232.8 million compared to Q3 2023 operating expenses of $211.5 million. The $21 million increase was primarily driven by $2.7 million in higher water production costs due to an increase in wholesale rates and higher customer usage, a $3.2 million increase in depreciation and amortization due to new assets placed in service, and $11.5 million in higher income taxes related to higher pre-tax earnings. In addition, net other income increased $3.8 million during the third quarter, primarily due to an increase in unrealized gains on non-qualified benefit plan investments of $5 million. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:05:57The impact of the Q3 2024 activity on diluted earnings per share is presented on slide six. The more significant growth drivers were rate and usage increases of $0.56 and $0.13 per diluted share, respectively. In addition, gains on non-qualified benefit plan investments contributed $0.09 per diluted share. These drivers were partially offset by the change in MWRAM balance of $0.12 per diluted share and increases in water production expenses and depreciation and amortization expenses of $0.04 per diluted share, respectively. Year-to-date 2024 results benefited from the same regulatory mechanisms as the quarterly results. Year-to-date operating revenue increased $234.5 million to $814.6 million in 2024, compared to $580 million year-to-date in 2023. Year-to-date 2024 net income was $171.1 million, or $2.93 per diluted share, compared to year-to-date net income in 2023 of $21 million, or $0.38 per diluted share. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:07:17The growth in revenue was primarily driven by cumulative rate increases, including 2024 IRMA of $95 million, 2023 interim rate relief from the 2021 GRC of $87.5 million, and the recognition of deferred RAM revenue of $15.6 million. In addition, the change in our 2024 MWRAM balance added $12.4 million, and increased usage contributed $8.8 million. Year-to-date, 2024 operating expenses were $621.8 million compared to year-to-date 2023 operating expenses of $538.2 million. The $83.6 million increase was primarily driven by an increase in water production costs of $15.4 million due to increases in wholesale water rates and higher usage. Water production costs increased an additional $3.3 million due to the Incremental Cost Balancing Account, or ICBA, that was authorized in the 2021 GRC. We also recognized $13.1 million in deferred costs associated with the recognition of deferred RAM revenue and higher depreciation and amortization expense of $9.3 million. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:08:44Also, year-to-date income tax increased $41.1 million, primarily due to higher pre-tax earnings. The impact of year-to-date 2024 activity on diluted earnings per share is presented on slide eight. The more significant earnings drivers include cumulative rate increases, the 2023 interim rate relief, and recognized deferred RAM revenue of $1.29, $1.19, and $0.21 diluted earnings per share, respectively. The change in our 2024 MWRAM balance and increased usage added another $0.17 and $0.12 diluted earnings per share, respectively. These increases were partially offset by higher water production expenses and the recognition of RAM-related deferred water expenses of $0.25 and $0.18 diluted earnings per share, respectively, and higher depreciation and amortization of $0.13 diluted earnings per share. As a reminder, our 2021 GRC was adopted in Q1 of 2024 and included 2023 interim rate relief totaling $64 million. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:10:01$15.2 million of the interim rate relief was attributed to Q3 2023, and $50.4 million would have been attributable to the 2023 nine-month period year-to-date. Turning to our capital, we continue to make significant investments in our water infrastructure to help ensure the delivery of safe and reliable water service. Company capital investments during the nine-month period ended September 30, 2024, totaled $332.2 million, which is 86% of our $385 million 2024 capital budget. As a reminder, our planned 2024 capital investments and our estimated capital investments for the period from 2025 through 2027 do not include $226 million of estimated PFAS projects that will be constructed over multiple years beginning in the fourth quarter of 2024. Greg will discuss planned 2025 and 2027 increases applied for in the 2024 Infrastructure Improvement Plan later on in the call. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:11:15The positive impact of our capital investment program is having on regulated rate base is presented on slide number 10. Our overall rate base is projected to grow to $2.36 billion by the end of 2024. This is an increase of 7.3% over 2023. If approved as requested, the 2024 California Infrastructure Improvement Plan, coupled with planned capital investments in our utilities in other states, would result in a compounded annual rate-based growth of 11.7%. Moving to slide 11, we continue to maintain a strong balance sheet with a capital structure of 61% equity and 39% debt. During the quarter, the CPUC issued a final decision granting Cal Water authority to issue up to $1.3 billion in new debt and equity securities to finance water system infrastructure investments from 2023 to 2027. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:12:19We raised approximately $34.5 million during the quarter from the sale of 639,000 shares of common stock under our At-the-Market, or our ATM, Stock Equity Program. Year-to-date, we've raised approximately $86.5 million from the sales of 1,639,000 shares under the ATM program. We have approximately $43.1 million remaining under the program that can be raised for general corporate purposes in the future, including planned capital investments and strategic opportunities. On the debt side, Cal Water completed the sale and issuance of $125 million of first mortgage bonds. The bonds in a private placement that closed October 22, 2024. The bonds bear interest at a rate of 5.22% and mature on October 22, 2054. Cal Water used the bond proceeds to refinance certain existing borrowings on its short-term bank line of credit. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:13:28Just to note, yesterday, our board of directors declared a $0.28 per share dividend for stockholders of record on November 11, 2024. I believe that's November 12 of 2024. This was our 319th consecutive quarterly dividend. Moving to slide 12, we continue to maintain a strong liquidity position. As of September 30, 2024, the company had cash and cash equivalents of $105.2 million, of which $45.6 million was classified as restricted. Further, we had additional short-term borrowing capacity on our company and Cal Water lines of credit of $340 million. With that, I'll turn the call over to Greg to give an update on our 2024 General Rate Case and other regulatory matters. Greg? Thanks, Jim. On slide 13, we discussed the 2024 General Rate Case. I'm pleased to report that we continue to make progress with our 2024 General Rate Case filing. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:14:32We've completed the initial prehearing conference, and a judge and commissioner have been assigned to our case. The assigned commissioner to the case is Commissioner Baker. We are pleased with this assignment given his past work at the California Public Advocates to educate the CPUC on the negative customer impacts associated with rate case delays. As Jim mentioned earlier, we're proposing to invest $1.6 billion in our districts from 2025 to 2027, including approximately $1.3 billion of newly proposed capital investments to continue providing reliable, high-quality water service. This application includes our innovative Low-Use Water Equity Program, designed to decouple revenue from water sales while keeping rates affordable and reinforcing conservation goals. Our proposal includes rate increases to generate an additional $140.6 million for 2026, $74.2 million for 2027, and $83.6 million for 2028. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:15:46We are now four months into the standard 18-month review process with the PUC and are actively responding to data requests. We've completed all our district tours and are preparing for Public Participation Hearings later in the year. With that, I'll return the call back to Marty. Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:16:05Greg, just out of curiosity, the volume of data requests kind of consistent with past rate cases? Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:16:10Yes, consistent with past rate cases. Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:16:12Okay. Great. Thank you. Moving ahead, I'm on slide 14. I want to take a moment to talk about our cost of capital for 2025. As many of you know, we have in California what's called a cost of capital adjustment mechanism. Cost of Capital Adjustment Mechanism basically tracks the utilities AA Utility Bond Index from October 1 to September 30 of the following year. In the event there's a 100 basis point change or greater, the company can apply for an adjustment to its ROE, both up and down. So I'm very happy to report that the period ended September 30. It was less than 100 basis point change, and therefore it locks in our ROE for 2025 at 10.27%, which we think is a very good ROE. Moving on to the next slide, other regulatory mechanisms. Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:17:10There's a few things that happened in the quarter that I think are important. As I mentioned in my opening comments, we filed a number of advice letters for recovery that have been approved by the CPUC here in California. There's three primary filings that I want to emphasize. One is the IRMA, which is the Incremental Rates Memo Account, the 2023 MWRAM balance, and the 2023 Incremental Cost Balancing Account. The combination of those three things total approximately $94.2 million that we will be collecting over the next three years. For 2024, we expect to collect about $11.6 million from these balances as we move into the new year. Going on to slide number 16, I want to take a moment to talk about our environmental leadership and corporate recognition. Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:18:06First of all, I continue to be very proud of the recognition we received for environmental stewardship and our workplace excellence. The Alliance for Water Efficiency recently published a study that highlighted the important impact of our conservation programs, which have reduced customer bills by approximately 21% over the last 15 years compared to projections with customers that did not have the same type of conservation programs. So we're very happy with the results of the survey and what we've helped our customers achieve over the last 15 years. In addition, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency awarded California Water Service the WaterSense Excellence Award for the second consecutive year. This recognizes the promotion of our water-efficient products that we have in our conservation programs. The products that we've implemented to date will save an additional 395 million gallons over the life of the device's useful life for our customers. Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:19:04Additionally, during the quarter, we were named one of the World's Most Trustworthy Companies by Newsweek for its second consecutive year. This places us among only five water utilities that are recognized and honored in the energy and utility category. And then lastly, for the ninth consecutive year, we were recognized as a Great Place to Work, reflecting our ongoing commitment to creating an exceptional workplace environment and supporting our employees. I think many of you have probably heard me say that, yes, we are a company of fixed assets, pipes, and pumps, but our most important assets are our employees because they're the ones that make it all happen, and they're the ones that interface with our customers. Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:19:45Lastly, I want to take a moment to mention an 8-K that we filed during the quarter that announced the retirement of Ron Webb, who is our Vice President and Chief Human Resource Officer. Ron will be retiring on April 1, 2025. Ron has done an excellent job as our head of HR and has been an outstanding HR colleague and friend who has made countless contributions here at Cal Water. I want to take a moment to personally thank Ron and wish him all the best as him and his wife, Tina, prepare for retirement, and he will be dearly, dearly missed. I think, as everyone can appreciate, as a CEO, one of your closest confidants is your HR executive, and Ron, it's been just a fantastic 10 years working with you, and I'm going to miss working with you and wish you all the best in retirement. Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:20:31Having said that, we have started a national search for Ron's replacement, and I hope to be in position to announce his replacement by year-end or early 2025, so where does that take us for the quarter? Very happy with the results for the quarter. Results were in line with our expectations. They are a little bit confusing. I think Jim did a good job laying out all the moving parts and how they fit together given the delayed 2021 General Rate Case. Moving forward, it's really simple. The strategy is focused on getting the capital in the ground. As in the press release, and as Jim mentioned, we've invested a record amount of capital this year, so we're going into the fourth quarter very strong and doing investments in the Infrastructure Improvement Plan. we want to stay focused on customer service and servicing our customers. Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:21:22Then also on the 2024 General Rate Case. As Greg said, so far, things are moving and tracking the plan, and we want to make sure we do everything we can to make sure that we conclude that rate case by the end of 2025 with new rates in effect January 1, 2026. So there's a lot going on. The other thing I'd just point out is, as Jim said on the rate base growth side, we've historically been about three times the depreciation rate investment rate, and that's bumping up in this next cycle or two. And it's given the growth of the internal capital needs of the existing infrastructure plus the incremental $226 million. That's not reflected in that 11.7% CAGR number on rate base growth that will be incremental. So overall, we have a lot of stuff happening within the company, and the strategy is really straightforward. Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:22:16We're going to stick to what we do, which is getting the capital in the ground and serving the customers, and just one thing I'd just wrap up before we open up the comments is just fire season this year. Surprisingly, for our service areas, it has been relatively light. We had three major fires this year that were close to our service areas, none of which did damage to our service areas. We had the Thompson Fire, the Park Fire, and the Borel Fire, so nothing major that affected our service territory. I'm very happy to report that we are getting the first snowfall this week in the Sierras, which is a good sign that winter's off to a start and will help bring down the last few weeks of fire season that we have here, which typically goes on until the end of November. Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:22:58So with that, Kathleen, we will open it up for questions, please. Operator00:23:03Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you have dialed in and would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue. And if you would like to withdraw your question, just simply press star one again. If you are called upon to ask a question and listening via loudspeaker on your device, please pick up your handset and ensure that your phone is not on mute when asking your question. Again, please press star one to join the queue. And your first question comes from the line of Jonathan Reeder of Wells Fargo. Your line is now open. Jonathan ReederAnalyst at Wells Fargo00:23:48Hey, good morning, team. How are y'all today? Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:23:50Morning, Jonathan. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:23:51Hello, Jonathan. Jonathan ReederAnalyst at Wells Fargo00:23:54Wanted to start out just to get your view on the CPUC's recent decision to hold the PD and Cal-Am's rate case. I know the PD's language was pretty strongly against restoring full decoupling. Do you think there are enough commissioners that are supportive of decoupling, or might we just see some of the rationale and language in that section revised? Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:24:19Reeder, this is Greg Milleman, and the kind of feeling of the industry right now is, it was a strong sign that the PD was held until almost a little over a month, maybe two months to the December meeting, but there is not a consensus on exactly what that could mean. That could potentially mean they are tightening up the language around disallowing it or going the other way and putting in the language that would allow it. It's just too soon to tell. Jonathan ReederAnalyst at Wells Fargo00:24:58Okay. Fair enough. I can't tell either. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:25:06Jonathan, one thing I would add to that, and I haven't read the full decoupling application for any of our peer companies in California, but I do know in our application, we were keenly focused on two things that I think are important, and I think this may be a strategy differential for us. One, we were very focused on conservation as we originally were when we originally decoupled back in the early 2012, I guess 2012, decoupled. That was number one. The other thing we focused on in our new rate design in our application was kind of underserved communities and having a rate design that helps low-income customers with kind of a lifeline rate that first year. So in our application, it wasn't just about conservation. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:25:52It was also about low-income communities and making sure there's a lifeline rate there that reduces customers on the lower term of the economic or the lower range of the economic spectrum, and we think that's going to be really, really important. Jonathan ReederAnalyst at Wells Fargo00:26:07Yeah. No, and that's where I think if it is even just softening the language in that PD, it kind of then opens the door to, right, some of these reimagined ways of, I guess, designing the decoupling where it really focuses on some of the goals you just mentioned, Marty. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:26:26Right. Right. And I think what's important about this community piece for the people on the lower economic scale is that's the stated goal of the commission. They've made that very public and said they're very interested in it. And I give the team here a lot of credit. We took that to heart in the design of our decoupling mechanism that we filed for in our rate case. Jonathan ReederAnalyst at Wells Fargo00:26:49Okay. Great. I look forward to that, to see how that plays out. Also, I know the CPUC recently issued a decision lowering the energy utilities allowed ROEs by 42 basis points in 2025 by effectively reducing the magnitude of the 2024 cost of capital mechanism increase. Is there any avenue for the CPUC to do something similar for the waters for 2025? Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:27:17I'll go first, Greg, and you can add comment. I mean, I think that's always a possibility. Our ROEs have historically lagged the energy industries, so we're not coming off real high ROEs. In fact, I think our ROE at 10.27 is about where it was when I joined the company back in 2006, and then it went down for a number of years and recently went back up above 10 just recently. So I think that's a possibility. I think there's a number of factors going on in the electric industry that's a little different than water. One, as you see, we have a growing appetite to get capital in the ground, and we have to kind of step it up, getting that capital in the ground just to keep up with our current demands that we have in the existing rate case, which is great for stockholders. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:28:05That means we're growing rate base and potentially future earnings for customers. I think the other thing, though, on the electric side is in California, you have a lot of wildfire costs that are being recovered in electrical rates, which have put multiple layers of rate increases on customers. And I think there may be some pressure on the commission and just political pressure overall in California, given some of the incremental increases that were outside the general rate case that were added to electric bills. And so I don't think we know until we get there, but I think for us, we will most likely have to file a cost of capital application in 2025. It'd be great if we can defer it again, but I think that might be hard to do. And we'll do our best to defend the company's position on its ROE. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:28:52Greg, anything you want to add on that? Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:28:54The only thing else I would add is, unlike the water companies, the energies have an option to file an application to change their cost of capital in between their scheduled time. And they did that, I believe, in 2022 if there's an emergency, which was COVID. And so I think that might also lead to why there's different treatment on the cost of capital between the two of us, energies as well as water. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:29:25Right. So obviously, Jonathan, this will be a hot topic for 2025, and we'll provide updates on our cost of capital as we go through the process with the commission in 2025. Yeah. I think the takeaway, at least in the near term, is that for 2025, we have the 10.27%. As Marty mentioned, in terms of the recalculation this year at September 30th, we didn't trigger any kind of movement from what we are currently experiencing in our ROE now. And I think we haven't had any pushback from the commission about the 10.27%. That would be great. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:30:00No. We made a filing to demonstrate just what Jim said, and having heard back from them. Jonathan ReederAnalyst at Wells Fargo00:30:07Okay. So good. So it sounds like the 10.27% is safe for 2025. And then, yeah, we'll just see if there's, I mean, I guess, would you be open to an extension that maybe includes some sort of adjustment to the ROE if maybe in exchange you get some sort of multi-year certainty extension in whatever that new ROE would be? Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:30:37It's hard to speculate on something like that on the future. I will say I have been a big supporter of the cost of capital adjustment mechanism because it does float up and down, and it's a two-way mechanism, and again, our ROEs have lagged the electric industry, and we have a growing need to increase our capital investment, so I think, obviously, we'd love to settle anything if we can because it's just a cleaner process if we can do it, but it's really hard to speculate because we don't have any facts and circumstances around it, and obviously, what we want to do is what's right for Cal Water, which is make sure we have an ROE that's appropriate enough that allows us to attract capital to allow us to continue our rate-based growth. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:31:23So I think we'll have a lot more certainty on it as we get into it, but it's really hard to speculate not being in a dialogue with the commission about it. Jonathan ReederAnalyst at Wells Fargo00:31:33Sure. And then last on kind of the cost of capital, slide 11 kind of indicates your authorized California capital structure is 60.8% equity. How does that reconcile with the 53.4% approved under the last cost of capital? It was a little confusing. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:31:48Yeah. That's our actual capital structure as of right now. So, Jim, want to talk a little bit about that? Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:31:55Yeah. And again, Jonathan, that's at the Group, right? So we are working to kind of manage that structure to mirror as close as possible our authorized amounts in our operating utilities. I mentioned on the call, subsequent to the quarter end, we did a first mortgage bond in which we raised $125 million in debt financing. So we're starting to balance the debt and the equity. And really, it's to get it more in line with what our authorized amount is at the operating utilities to get that more in line with what we've got at the Group. And we'll kind of work through the capital structure at the Group to take the most optimal path to get that closer in line. But the first step was this $125 million that we issued subsequent to quarter end. Jonathan ReederAnalyst at Wells Fargo00:32:52Okay. Great. I appreciate that clarity. And then last question for me, what are the potential impacts on the CapEx budget from the EPA's recently finalized Lead and Copper Rule? Is that a major issue for your California service area? Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:33:06It's really not. I mean, frankly, one of the nice things about being out on the West Coast is our infrastructure is newer than the East Coast. So based on what we've seen in all of our updated testing, we have one district that has hit that action level. But as we went into the testing in that district, our wells and our purchase water is fine. We think it's more associated with a couple of customers' homes. So I don't think it's that big of an impact for us, which frankly is nice because PFAS is the big kahuna for us the next three years because that's an incremental $226 million we got to invest, and we want to be ahead of schedule on that. So I'm not losing too much sleep on the Lead and Copper Rule being out west. Jonathan ReederAnalyst at Wells Fargo00:33:54Okay. Great. No, appreciate the additional detail and thanks for the updates. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:33:58Thanks, Jonathan. Operator00:34:02Again, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. There are no questions at this time. I will now turn the conference back over to Martin Kropelnicki, Chairman and CEO, for closing remarks. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:34:21Kathleen, thank you. Thanks for joining today. Please, if you have questions, feel free to reach out to one of us. We'll answer them the best that we can. In closing, we're closing the third quarter strong. We're going into the fourth quarter with a lot of momentum. But again, the overall goal going into the fourth quarter is to just stay focused on the core business plan of the company and executing our existing strategy. And we'll look forward to giving everyone an update at the end of February when we announce our earnings results for 2024. So happy Halloween. Be safe, and we'll talk to everyone soon. Thank you. Operator00:34:56Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesGreg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory AffairsJames P. LynchSVP, CFO, and TreasurerMartin A. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:01Thank you for standing by. My name is Kathleen, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the California Water Service Group third quarter 2024 earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. And if you would like to withdraw your question, just press the star one again. Thank you. And now, I would like to turn the call over to Jim Lynch, Senior Vice President, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead, sir. James P. LynchSVP, CFO, and Treasurer at California Water Service Group00:00:48Thank you, Kathleen. Welcome, everyone, to our third quarter 2024 results call for California Water Service Group. With me today is Marty Kropelnicki, our Chairman and CEO, and Greg Milleman, Vice President of Rates and Regulatory Affairs. Replay dial-in information for this call can be found in our quarterly results earnings release, which was issued earlier today. The replay will be available until December 30, 2024. As a reminder, before we begin, the company has a slide deck to accompany today's earnings call. The slide deck was furnished with an 8-K and is also available at the company's website at www.calwatergroup.com. Before looking at third quarter 2024 results, I'd like to take a few moments to address forward-looking statements. During the course of the call, the company may make certain forward-looking statements. James P. LynchSVP, CFO, and Treasurer at California Water Service Group00:01:45Because these statements deal with future events, they are subject to various risks and uncertainties, and actual results could differ materially from the company's current expectations. As a result, the company strongly advises all current shareholders, as well as interested parties, to carefully read and understand the company's disclosures on risks and uncertainties found in our Form 10-K, Form 10-Qs, press releases, and other reports filed from time to time with the Securities and Exchange Commission. And now, I'll turn the call over to Marty. Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:02:22Thanks, Jim. Good morning, everyone, and happy Halloween. We're happy you can join us here today. We're very pleased to share with you our results for the third quarter of 2024. There's really five main topics that we want to cover today, the first one being our strong third quarter financial performance that continues to benefit from the regulatory relief in the state of California. We want to give an update on the 2024 General Rate Case, where during the quarter we had our initial pre-conference hearing, and we've been assigned an administrative law judge and a commissioner to oversee our case. We received approval of certain advice letters from the California Public Utilities Commission, that's going to allow us to collect $94.2 million in certain regulatory balances through 2027. Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:03:06We want to talk about the record amount of capital that we've invested this year and what that looks like going into year-end, and then lastly, take a moment to talk about our continued environmental leadership and corporate recognition and talk about a few awards that we won during the quarter, but to start things off, let's do like we typically do and have Jim Lynch take you through some of the financial analysis that highlights the quarterly results. Jim, back to you. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:03:30Thanks, Marty. So as Marty mentioned, our Q3 2024 financial results continue to benefit from new rates and the rate structure authorized in our 2021 California GRC. As a result, our operating revenue for the quarter increased 17.5% to $299.6 million compared to our prior year Q3 operating revenue of $255 million. Net income for the quarter was $60.7 million for a $1.03 per diluted share compared to $34.4 million or $0.60 per diluted share in Q3 of 2023. The $44.6 million increase in Q3 2024 revenue was driven primarily by a $42.2 million increase in rates billed to customers as authorized in our regulatory filings and an increase in customer usage, including usage by new customers, of $9.6 million. These increases were offset by a $9.4 million reduction in our Monterey Water Rates Adjustment Mechanism, or our MWRAM. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:04:43Recall that the MWRAM is a rate adjustment mechanism that includes a tiered rate structure tied to usage. In periods of warm, dry weather, when usage increases, the MWRAM typically decreases. The balance typically increases in cooler, wet weather when usage declines. Q3 2024 operating expenses were $232.8 million compared to Q3 2023 operating expenses of $211.5 million. The $21 million increase was primarily driven by $2.7 million in higher water production costs due to an increase in wholesale rates and higher customer usage, a $3.2 million increase in depreciation and amortization due to new assets placed in service, and $11.5 million in higher income taxes related to higher pre-tax earnings. In addition, net other income increased $3.8 million during the third quarter, primarily due to an increase in unrealized gains on non-qualified benefit plan investments of $5 million. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:05:57The impact of the Q3 2024 activity on diluted earnings per share is presented on slide six. The more significant growth drivers were rate and usage increases of $0.56 and $0.13 per diluted share, respectively. In addition, gains on non-qualified benefit plan investments contributed $0.09 per diluted share. These drivers were partially offset by the change in MWRAM balance of $0.12 per diluted share and increases in water production expenses and depreciation and amortization expenses of $0.04 per diluted share, respectively. Year-to-date 2024 results benefited from the same regulatory mechanisms as the quarterly results. Year-to-date operating revenue increased $234.5 million to $814.6 million in 2024, compared to $580 million year-to-date in 2023. Year-to-date 2024 net income was $171.1 million, or $2.93 per diluted share, compared to year-to-date net income in 2023 of $21 million, or $0.38 per diluted share. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:07:17The growth in revenue was primarily driven by cumulative rate increases, including 2024 IRMA of $95 million, 2023 interim rate relief from the 2021 GRC of $87.5 million, and the recognition of deferred RAM revenue of $15.6 million. In addition, the change in our 2024 MWRAM balance added $12.4 million, and increased usage contributed $8.8 million. Year-to-date, 2024 operating expenses were $621.8 million compared to year-to-date 2023 operating expenses of $538.2 million. The $83.6 million increase was primarily driven by an increase in water production costs of $15.4 million due to increases in wholesale water rates and higher usage. Water production costs increased an additional $3.3 million due to the Incremental Cost Balancing Account, or ICBA, that was authorized in the 2021 GRC. We also recognized $13.1 million in deferred costs associated with the recognition of deferred RAM revenue and higher depreciation and amortization expense of $9.3 million. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:08:44Also, year-to-date income tax increased $41.1 million, primarily due to higher pre-tax earnings. The impact of year-to-date 2024 activity on diluted earnings per share is presented on slide eight. The more significant earnings drivers include cumulative rate increases, the 2023 interim rate relief, and recognized deferred RAM revenue of $1.29, $1.19, and $0.21 diluted earnings per share, respectively. The change in our 2024 MWRAM balance and increased usage added another $0.17 and $0.12 diluted earnings per share, respectively. These increases were partially offset by higher water production expenses and the recognition of RAM-related deferred water expenses of $0.25 and $0.18 diluted earnings per share, respectively, and higher depreciation and amortization of $0.13 diluted earnings per share. As a reminder, our 2021 GRC was adopted in Q1 of 2024 and included 2023 interim rate relief totaling $64 million. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:10:01$15.2 million of the interim rate relief was attributed to Q3 2023, and $50.4 million would have been attributable to the 2023 nine-month period year-to-date. Turning to our capital, we continue to make significant investments in our water infrastructure to help ensure the delivery of safe and reliable water service. Company capital investments during the nine-month period ended September 30, 2024, totaled $332.2 million, which is 86% of our $385 million 2024 capital budget. As a reminder, our planned 2024 capital investments and our estimated capital investments for the period from 2025 through 2027 do not include $226 million of estimated PFAS projects that will be constructed over multiple years beginning in the fourth quarter of 2024. Greg will discuss planned 2025 and 2027 increases applied for in the 2024 Infrastructure Improvement Plan later on in the call. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:11:15The positive impact of our capital investment program is having on regulated rate base is presented on slide number 10. Our overall rate base is projected to grow to $2.36 billion by the end of 2024. This is an increase of 7.3% over 2023. If approved as requested, the 2024 California Infrastructure Improvement Plan, coupled with planned capital investments in our utilities in other states, would result in a compounded annual rate-based growth of 11.7%. Moving to slide 11, we continue to maintain a strong balance sheet with a capital structure of 61% equity and 39% debt. During the quarter, the CPUC issued a final decision granting Cal Water authority to issue up to $1.3 billion in new debt and equity securities to finance water system infrastructure investments from 2023 to 2027. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:12:19We raised approximately $34.5 million during the quarter from the sale of 639,000 shares of common stock under our At-the-Market, or our ATM, Stock Equity Program. Year-to-date, we've raised approximately $86.5 million from the sales of 1,639,000 shares under the ATM program. We have approximately $43.1 million remaining under the program that can be raised for general corporate purposes in the future, including planned capital investments and strategic opportunities. On the debt side, Cal Water completed the sale and issuance of $125 million of first mortgage bonds. The bonds in a private placement that closed October 22, 2024. The bonds bear interest at a rate of 5.22% and mature on October 22, 2054. Cal Water used the bond proceeds to refinance certain existing borrowings on its short-term bank line of credit. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:13:28Just to note, yesterday, our board of directors declared a $0.28 per share dividend for stockholders of record on November 11, 2024. I believe that's November 12 of 2024. This was our 319th consecutive quarterly dividend. Moving to slide 12, we continue to maintain a strong liquidity position. As of September 30, 2024, the company had cash and cash equivalents of $105.2 million, of which $45.6 million was classified as restricted. Further, we had additional short-term borrowing capacity on our company and Cal Water lines of credit of $340 million. With that, I'll turn the call over to Greg to give an update on our 2024 General Rate Case and other regulatory matters. Greg? Thanks, Jim. On slide 13, we discussed the 2024 General Rate Case. I'm pleased to report that we continue to make progress with our 2024 General Rate Case filing. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:14:32We've completed the initial prehearing conference, and a judge and commissioner have been assigned to our case. The assigned commissioner to the case is Commissioner Baker. We are pleased with this assignment given his past work at the California Public Advocates to educate the CPUC on the negative customer impacts associated with rate case delays. As Jim mentioned earlier, we're proposing to invest $1.6 billion in our districts from 2025 to 2027, including approximately $1.3 billion of newly proposed capital investments to continue providing reliable, high-quality water service. This application includes our innovative Low-Use Water Equity Program, designed to decouple revenue from water sales while keeping rates affordable and reinforcing conservation goals. Our proposal includes rate increases to generate an additional $140.6 million for 2026, $74.2 million for 2027, and $83.6 million for 2028. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:15:46We are now four months into the standard 18-month review process with the PUC and are actively responding to data requests. We've completed all our district tours and are preparing for Public Participation Hearings later in the year. With that, I'll return the call back to Marty. Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:16:05Greg, just out of curiosity, the volume of data requests kind of consistent with past rate cases? Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:16:10Yes, consistent with past rate cases. Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:16:12Okay. Great. Thank you. Moving ahead, I'm on slide 14. I want to take a moment to talk about our cost of capital for 2025. As many of you know, we have in California what's called a cost of capital adjustment mechanism. Cost of Capital Adjustment Mechanism basically tracks the utilities AA Utility Bond Index from October 1 to September 30 of the following year. In the event there's a 100 basis point change or greater, the company can apply for an adjustment to its ROE, both up and down. So I'm very happy to report that the period ended September 30. It was less than 100 basis point change, and therefore it locks in our ROE for 2025 at 10.27%, which we think is a very good ROE. Moving on to the next slide, other regulatory mechanisms. Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:17:10There's a few things that happened in the quarter that I think are important. As I mentioned in my opening comments, we filed a number of advice letters for recovery that have been approved by the CPUC here in California. There's three primary filings that I want to emphasize. One is the IRMA, which is the Incremental Rates Memo Account, the 2023 MWRAM balance, and the 2023 Incremental Cost Balancing Account. The combination of those three things total approximately $94.2 million that we will be collecting over the next three years. For 2024, we expect to collect about $11.6 million from these balances as we move into the new year. Going on to slide number 16, I want to take a moment to talk about our environmental leadership and corporate recognition. Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:18:06First of all, I continue to be very proud of the recognition we received for environmental stewardship and our workplace excellence. The Alliance for Water Efficiency recently published a study that highlighted the important impact of our conservation programs, which have reduced customer bills by approximately 21% over the last 15 years compared to projections with customers that did not have the same type of conservation programs. So we're very happy with the results of the survey and what we've helped our customers achieve over the last 15 years. In addition, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency awarded California Water Service the WaterSense Excellence Award for the second consecutive year. This recognizes the promotion of our water-efficient products that we have in our conservation programs. The products that we've implemented to date will save an additional 395 million gallons over the life of the device's useful life for our customers. Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:19:04Additionally, during the quarter, we were named one of the World's Most Trustworthy Companies by Newsweek for its second consecutive year. This places us among only five water utilities that are recognized and honored in the energy and utility category. And then lastly, for the ninth consecutive year, we were recognized as a Great Place to Work, reflecting our ongoing commitment to creating an exceptional workplace environment and supporting our employees. I think many of you have probably heard me say that, yes, we are a company of fixed assets, pipes, and pumps, but our most important assets are our employees because they're the ones that make it all happen, and they're the ones that interface with our customers. Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:19:45Lastly, I want to take a moment to mention an 8-K that we filed during the quarter that announced the retirement of Ron Webb, who is our Vice President and Chief Human Resource Officer. Ron will be retiring on April 1, 2025. Ron has done an excellent job as our head of HR and has been an outstanding HR colleague and friend who has made countless contributions here at Cal Water. I want to take a moment to personally thank Ron and wish him all the best as him and his wife, Tina, prepare for retirement, and he will be dearly, dearly missed. I think, as everyone can appreciate, as a CEO, one of your closest confidants is your HR executive, and Ron, it's been just a fantastic 10 years working with you, and I'm going to miss working with you and wish you all the best in retirement. Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:20:31Having said that, we have started a national search for Ron's replacement, and I hope to be in position to announce his replacement by year-end or early 2025, so where does that take us for the quarter? Very happy with the results for the quarter. Results were in line with our expectations. They are a little bit confusing. I think Jim did a good job laying out all the moving parts and how they fit together given the delayed 2021 General Rate Case. Moving forward, it's really simple. The strategy is focused on getting the capital in the ground. As in the press release, and as Jim mentioned, we've invested a record amount of capital this year, so we're going into the fourth quarter very strong and doing investments in the Infrastructure Improvement Plan. we want to stay focused on customer service and servicing our customers. Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:21:22Then also on the 2024 General Rate Case. As Greg said, so far, things are moving and tracking the plan, and we want to make sure we do everything we can to make sure that we conclude that rate case by the end of 2025 with new rates in effect January 1, 2026. So there's a lot going on. The other thing I'd just point out is, as Jim said on the rate base growth side, we've historically been about three times the depreciation rate investment rate, and that's bumping up in this next cycle or two. And it's given the growth of the internal capital needs of the existing infrastructure plus the incremental $226 million. That's not reflected in that 11.7% CAGR number on rate base growth that will be incremental. So overall, we have a lot of stuff happening within the company, and the strategy is really straightforward. Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:22:16We're going to stick to what we do, which is getting the capital in the ground and serving the customers, and just one thing I'd just wrap up before we open up the comments is just fire season this year. Surprisingly, for our service areas, it has been relatively light. We had three major fires this year that were close to our service areas, none of which did damage to our service areas. We had the Thompson Fire, the Park Fire, and the Borel Fire, so nothing major that affected our service territory. I'm very happy to report that we are getting the first snowfall this week in the Sierras, which is a good sign that winter's off to a start and will help bring down the last few weeks of fire season that we have here, which typically goes on until the end of November. Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:22:58So with that, Kathleen, we will open it up for questions, please. Operator00:23:03Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you have dialed in and would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue. And if you would like to withdraw your question, just simply press star one again. If you are called upon to ask a question and listening via loudspeaker on your device, please pick up your handset and ensure that your phone is not on mute when asking your question. Again, please press star one to join the queue. And your first question comes from the line of Jonathan Reeder of Wells Fargo. Your line is now open. Jonathan ReederAnalyst at Wells Fargo00:23:48Hey, good morning, team. How are y'all today? Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:23:50Morning, Jonathan. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:23:51Hello, Jonathan. Jonathan ReederAnalyst at Wells Fargo00:23:54Wanted to start out just to get your view on the CPUC's recent decision to hold the PD and Cal-Am's rate case. I know the PD's language was pretty strongly against restoring full decoupling. Do you think there are enough commissioners that are supportive of decoupling, or might we just see some of the rationale and language in that section revised? Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:24:19Reeder, this is Greg Milleman, and the kind of feeling of the industry right now is, it was a strong sign that the PD was held until almost a little over a month, maybe two months to the December meeting, but there is not a consensus on exactly what that could mean. That could potentially mean they are tightening up the language around disallowing it or going the other way and putting in the language that would allow it. It's just too soon to tell. Jonathan ReederAnalyst at Wells Fargo00:24:58Okay. Fair enough. I can't tell either. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:25:06Jonathan, one thing I would add to that, and I haven't read the full decoupling application for any of our peer companies in California, but I do know in our application, we were keenly focused on two things that I think are important, and I think this may be a strategy differential for us. One, we were very focused on conservation as we originally were when we originally decoupled back in the early 2012, I guess 2012, decoupled. That was number one. The other thing we focused on in our new rate design in our application was kind of underserved communities and having a rate design that helps low-income customers with kind of a lifeline rate that first year. So in our application, it wasn't just about conservation. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:25:52It was also about low-income communities and making sure there's a lifeline rate there that reduces customers on the lower term of the economic or the lower range of the economic spectrum, and we think that's going to be really, really important. Jonathan ReederAnalyst at Wells Fargo00:26:07Yeah. No, and that's where I think if it is even just softening the language in that PD, it kind of then opens the door to, right, some of these reimagined ways of, I guess, designing the decoupling where it really focuses on some of the goals you just mentioned, Marty. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:26:26Right. Right. And I think what's important about this community piece for the people on the lower economic scale is that's the stated goal of the commission. They've made that very public and said they're very interested in it. And I give the team here a lot of credit. We took that to heart in the design of our decoupling mechanism that we filed for in our rate case. Jonathan ReederAnalyst at Wells Fargo00:26:49Okay. Great. I look forward to that, to see how that plays out. Also, I know the CPUC recently issued a decision lowering the energy utilities allowed ROEs by 42 basis points in 2025 by effectively reducing the magnitude of the 2024 cost of capital mechanism increase. Is there any avenue for the CPUC to do something similar for the waters for 2025? Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:27:17I'll go first, Greg, and you can add comment. I mean, I think that's always a possibility. Our ROEs have historically lagged the energy industries, so we're not coming off real high ROEs. In fact, I think our ROE at 10.27 is about where it was when I joined the company back in 2006, and then it went down for a number of years and recently went back up above 10 just recently. So I think that's a possibility. I think there's a number of factors going on in the electric industry that's a little different than water. One, as you see, we have a growing appetite to get capital in the ground, and we have to kind of step it up, getting that capital in the ground just to keep up with our current demands that we have in the existing rate case, which is great for stockholders. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:28:05That means we're growing rate base and potentially future earnings for customers. I think the other thing, though, on the electric side is in California, you have a lot of wildfire costs that are being recovered in electrical rates, which have put multiple layers of rate increases on customers. And I think there may be some pressure on the commission and just political pressure overall in California, given some of the incremental increases that were outside the general rate case that were added to electric bills. And so I don't think we know until we get there, but I think for us, we will most likely have to file a cost of capital application in 2025. It'd be great if we can defer it again, but I think that might be hard to do. And we'll do our best to defend the company's position on its ROE. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:28:52Greg, anything you want to add on that? Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:28:54The only thing else I would add is, unlike the water companies, the energies have an option to file an application to change their cost of capital in between their scheduled time. And they did that, I believe, in 2022 if there's an emergency, which was COVID. And so I think that might also lead to why there's different treatment on the cost of capital between the two of us, energies as well as water. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:29:25Right. So obviously, Jonathan, this will be a hot topic for 2025, and we'll provide updates on our cost of capital as we go through the process with the commission in 2025. Yeah. I think the takeaway, at least in the near term, is that for 2025, we have the 10.27%. As Marty mentioned, in terms of the recalculation this year at September 30th, we didn't trigger any kind of movement from what we are currently experiencing in our ROE now. And I think we haven't had any pushback from the commission about the 10.27%. That would be great. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:30:00No. We made a filing to demonstrate just what Jim said, and having heard back from them. Jonathan ReederAnalyst at Wells Fargo00:30:07Okay. So good. So it sounds like the 10.27% is safe for 2025. And then, yeah, we'll just see if there's, I mean, I guess, would you be open to an extension that maybe includes some sort of adjustment to the ROE if maybe in exchange you get some sort of multi-year certainty extension in whatever that new ROE would be? Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:30:37It's hard to speculate on something like that on the future. I will say I have been a big supporter of the cost of capital adjustment mechanism because it does float up and down, and it's a two-way mechanism, and again, our ROEs have lagged the electric industry, and we have a growing need to increase our capital investment, so I think, obviously, we'd love to settle anything if we can because it's just a cleaner process if we can do it, but it's really hard to speculate because we don't have any facts and circumstances around it, and obviously, what we want to do is what's right for Cal Water, which is make sure we have an ROE that's appropriate enough that allows us to attract capital to allow us to continue our rate-based growth. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:31:23So I think we'll have a lot more certainty on it as we get into it, but it's really hard to speculate not being in a dialogue with the commission about it. Jonathan ReederAnalyst at Wells Fargo00:31:33Sure. And then last on kind of the cost of capital, slide 11 kind of indicates your authorized California capital structure is 60.8% equity. How does that reconcile with the 53.4% approved under the last cost of capital? It was a little confusing. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:31:48Yeah. That's our actual capital structure as of right now. So, Jim, want to talk a little bit about that? Martin A. KropelnickiCEO at California Water Service Group00:31:55Yeah. And again, Jonathan, that's at the Group, right? So we are working to kind of manage that structure to mirror as close as possible our authorized amounts in our operating utilities. I mentioned on the call, subsequent to the quarter end, we did a first mortgage bond in which we raised $125 million in debt financing. So we're starting to balance the debt and the equity. And really, it's to get it more in line with what our authorized amount is at the operating utilities to get that more in line with what we've got at the Group. And we'll kind of work through the capital structure at the Group to take the most optimal path to get that closer in line. But the first step was this $125 million that we issued subsequent to quarter end. Jonathan ReederAnalyst at Wells Fargo00:32:52Okay. Great. I appreciate that clarity. And then last question for me, what are the potential impacts on the CapEx budget from the EPA's recently finalized Lead and Copper Rule? Is that a major issue for your California service area? Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:33:06It's really not. I mean, frankly, one of the nice things about being out on the West Coast is our infrastructure is newer than the East Coast. So based on what we've seen in all of our updated testing, we have one district that has hit that action level. But as we went into the testing in that district, our wells and our purchase water is fine. We think it's more associated with a couple of customers' homes. So I don't think it's that big of an impact for us, which frankly is nice because PFAS is the big kahuna for us the next three years because that's an incremental $226 million we got to invest, and we want to be ahead of schedule on that. So I'm not losing too much sleep on the Lead and Copper Rule being out west. Jonathan ReederAnalyst at Wells Fargo00:33:54Okay. Great. No, appreciate the additional detail and thanks for the updates. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:33:58Thanks, Jonathan. Operator00:34:02Again, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. There are no questions at this time. I will now turn the conference back over to Martin Kropelnicki, Chairman and CEO, for closing remarks. Greg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory Affairs at California Water Service Group00:34:21Kathleen, thank you. Thanks for joining today. Please, if you have questions, feel free to reach out to one of us. We'll answer them the best that we can. In closing, we're closing the third quarter strong. We're going into the fourth quarter with a lot of momentum. But again, the overall goal going into the fourth quarter is to just stay focused on the core business plan of the company and executing our existing strategy. And we'll look forward to giving everyone an update at the end of February when we announce our earnings results for 2024. So happy Halloween. Be safe, and we'll talk to everyone soon. Thank you. Operator00:34:56Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesGreg A. MillemanVP of Rates and Regulatory AffairsJames P. LynchSVP, CFO, and TreasurerMartin A. 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