NASDAQ:CLSD Clearside Biomedical Q3 2024 Earnings Report ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Clearside Biomedical EPS ResultsActual EPS-$1.50Consensus EPS -$2.10Beat/MissBeat by +$0.60One Year Ago EPS-$2.25Clearside Biomedical Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$1.04 millionExpected Revenue$0.25 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$790.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/AClearside Biomedical Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2024Date11/12/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateTuesday, November 12, 2024Conference Call Time4:30PM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Clearside Biomedical Q3 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 12, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways ODiSI Phase 2b delivers positive data demonstrating CLSAX’s safety, stable visual acuity, and an 84% reduction in injection frequency over 36 weeks with repeat dosing. Competitive edge in wet AMD as the only TKI program with repeat-dosing data, positioning CLSAX for flexible 3–6 month maintenance dosing and easier physician adoption. Advancing a geographic atrophy pipeline by evaluating two small-molecule candidates in vivo via suprachoroidal delivery to target choroidal vascular and inflammatory pathways in a >$20 billion market. Broad partner validation from Arctic Vision/Santen (XIPERE in APAC), REGENXBIO/AbbVie (gene therapy via microinjector), Ora Biosciences (Belsar in choroidal melanoma), and BioCryst (avorlistat in DME) underscores platform demand. Cash and equivalents of ~$23.6 million provide runway into Q3 2025, supporting planned CLSAX Phase 3 trials and suprachoroidal research programs. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallClearside Biomedical Q3 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Welcome to the Clearside Biomedical Q3 2024 Financial Results and Corporate Update call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode, and a question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Jenny Kobin, Investor Relations. Ma'am, you may begin. Jenny KobinHead of Investor Relations at Clearside Biomedical00:00:34Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us on the call today. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that during today's call, we will be making certain forward-looking statements. Various remarks that we make during this call about the company's future expectations, plans, and prospects constitute forward-looking statements for purposes of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by these forward-looking statements as a result of various important factors, including those discussed in the risk factor section of our annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2023, that was filed on March 12, 2024, and our quarterly report on Form 10-Q for the quarter ended September 30, 2024, filed today, and our other SEC filings available on our website. Jenny KobinHead of Investor Relations at Clearside Biomedical00:01:35In addition, any forward-looking statements represent our views as of today and should not be relied upon as representing our views as of any subsequent date. While we may elect to update these forward-looking statements in the future, we specifically disclaim any obligation to do so, even if our views change. On today's call, we have George Lasezkay, our Chief Executive Officer, Dr. Victor Chong, our Chief Medical Officer, and Charlie Deignan, our Chief Financial Officer. After our formal remarks, we will open the call for your questions. I would now like to turn the call over to George. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:02:14Thank you, Jenny, and good afternoon, everyone. We continue to make outstanding progress advancing our differentiated suprachoroidal delivery pipeline. Last month, we reported the positive results from our Odyssey phase 2b clinical trial in patients with wet AMD. These data strongly support the potential efficacy, safety, and versatility of CLS-AX to treat this chronic disease. We believe CLS-AX is now positioned for real-world success in the wet AMD market, with its potential to provide physicians with an extended duration maintenance therapy combined with the option for flexible redosing. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:02:51These features may improve outcomes and reduce the treatment burden for patients and their caregivers. Importantly, Odyssey also demonstrated a positive safety profile with the ability to redose with our own drug as part of a maintenance treatment regimen. We are the only TKI wet AMD program with repeat dosing data, giving us a competitive advantage as we advance CLS-AX into phase 3. In addition to our wet AMD program, our research team is currently evaluating certain specific small molecules through in vivo models for the potential treatment of geographic atrophy, a market size valued at over $20 billion in sales. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:03:30Victor will expand on this opportunity in his remarks. We are also working to expand the overall value of our suprachoroidal platform. Clearside is the proven leader in delivery of drugs to the suprachoroidal space. Our SCS microinjector continues to provide safe and reliable delivery with well over 10,000 injections performed to date. We have successfully navigated the drug-device regulatory pathway to obtain commercial approval for XIPERE, the first and only FDA-approved product for suprachoroidal administration, and a permanent CPT code has been granted for suprachoroidal injections as a result of XIPERE's U.S. approval. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:04:09A tremendous amount of work is also happening behind the scenes. We have solidified our formulation expertise in developing suspensions that can be delivered into the suprachoroidal space, and we have commercial-scale microinjector manufacturing capability that includes ISO certification. This industry-leading know-how continues to be recognized. We are seeing significant interest among the retinal specialist community and from leading biopharmaceutical companies in applying our innovative approach to treating serious retinal diseases. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:04:40The last several months have seen continued advancement by our collaboration partners. In the Asia-Pacific region, our partner Arctic Vision has made excellent progress advancing the development of XIPERE, including regulatory reviews in Australia and Singapore and a pending regulatory submission in China. We were delighted by the announcement last week of the commercial collaboration between Arctic Vision and Santen Pharmaceuticals, a highly respected global ophthalmic company. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:05:09This collaboration leverages the capabilities of Santen to bring this potential important treatment to patients with uveitic macular edema in China. Importantly, this partnership is tremendously gratifying as it provides additional strategic validation of our suprachoroidal delivery platform by another global pharmaceutical company. REGENXBIO has partnered with AbbVie to utilize our SCS Microinjector to deliver their gene therapy ABBV-RGX-314 for the treatment of wet AMD, diabetic retinopathy, and diabetic macular edema. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:05:44Last week, they reported on their programs administering 314 via our SCS Microinjector. Based on the positive interim results from phase 2 Altitude Trial in diabetic retinopathy, AbbVie and REGENXBIO have accelerated a planned end-of-phase 2 meeting with the FDA that they now expect to have this quarter. REGENXBIO expects to initiate the first global pivotal trial in diabetic retinopathy in the first half of 2025. In addition, Altitude is enrolling a new cohort of patients with center-involved diabetic macular edema. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:06:21Finally, in wet AMD, the phase 2 AAVIATE trial is enrolling a new cohort based on a favorable safety profile and to evaluate dose levels for a planned pivotal program. At the Retina Society annual meeting in September, our ocular oncology partner, Aura Biosciences, presented positive phase 2 end-of-study results evaluating bel-sar for the first-line treatment of early-stage choroidal melanoma. Aura continues to enroll their global phase 3 trial in choroidal melanoma. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:06:55We have been working closely with our partner BioCryst Pharmaceuticals on the formulation of their plasma kallikrein inhibitor, Avoralstat. In 2025, BioCryst plans to advance Avoralstat into a clinical trial of patients with diabetic macular edema. BioCryst believes that Avoralstat, delivered to the suprachoroidal space as a depot formulation utilizing our SCS Microinjector, can potentially provide high drug levels to the retinal vessels with long-lasting exposure. With that, I would now like to hand the call over to our Chief Medical Officer, Dr. Victor Chong, to provide additional perspectives on our Odyssey results, the current plans for our phase 3 program, and exciting new opportunity to expand our suprachoroidal pipeline. Victor? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:07:42Thank you, George, and good afternoon, everyone. We are extremely pleased with the Odyssey trial result, which we reported last month, which exceeded our expectations for the data needed to advance CLS-AX into phase 3 development. There were three key objectives we were looking for from the Odyssey trial. First, safety. We showed that the CLS-AX was well tolerated and maintained a positive safety profile with repeat dosing of the drug. This was especially important as almost all of the patients were administered at least two doses of CLS-AX. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:08:24Importantly, our phase 2b trial had no treatment-related serious adverse events, including no endophthalmitis and no retinal vasculitis. Second, efficacy. We saw stable measurement of best corrected visual acuity and central subfield thickness. We were able to maintain vision over 36 weeks, with BCVA within two letters from baseline at both week 24 and week 36. We were also able to demonstrate that CLS-AX reduced CST fluctuations and provides stable anatomical control over 36 weeks, as confirmed by independent reading center. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:09:10And third, duration and reduction of treatment burden. We were able to show an 84% reduction in the frequency of injection after the initial dose of CLS-AX, with approximately 90% of CLS-AX participants not requiring any additional treatment up to four months, 81% up to five months, and 67% up to six months. Wet AMD is a chronic disease. Over the patient's lifetime, they will be given numerous injections to maintain vision and stabilize the disease. We are developing CLS-AX as a maintenance treatment, and the fact that we demonstrated the ability to administer multiple doses of CLS-AX was a critical component of the Odyssey trial. We want CLS-AX to be easily adopted into current physician practice. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:10:14Based on the input we have received from numerous clinicians, in order to be meaningful, a new therapy entering the wet AMD market needs to have the option of flexible dosing. Any new agent that can only be dosed every six months will be a challenge for physicians to utilize. The frequency of treatment differs from patient to patient. In fact, even from eye to eye in the same patient, the frequency might differ. Physicians need the flexibility to deliver a treatment that will accommodate the varying needs and schedule for each eye of the patient at different times of the treatment journey. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:10:55We continue to evaluate data from the Odyssey trial to help refine our phase 3 plans. We are focused on designing a phase 3 program that will produce data supportive of label, with flexible dosing between three to six months. As I mentioned, this will align with the current wet AMD treatment approach desired by most retinal specialists and enable easy adoption in the physician practice. Keeping in mind that our phase 3 plans remain in development and are subject to change, we are currently planning to run two phase 3 trials with aflibercept 2 mg as a comparator. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:11:43We are likely to conduct the study in true naive patients with a flexible dosing component, consistent with the phase 3 trial design for recently approved aflibercept high dose and faricimab. We expect to conduct an end-of-phase 2 meeting with the FDA in early 2025 to present and finalize our plans. One of the main reasons I joined Clearside was to further explore the potential for suprachoroidal delivery with our SCS microinjector. Over the course of my career, I have had a great deal of translational experience in advancing new molecules into the clinic, and I see many opportunities to utilize our device and formulation platform to potentially expand our pipeline. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:12:37Beyond wet AMD, we are targeting geographic atrophy, a prevalent disease with a market size valued at over $20 billion in sales. We believe that geographic atrophy is primarily a choroidal disease. Several of my colleagues in the academic world have demonstrated that endothelial cells in the choroid are damaged even well before any significant change occurs in the retinal pigment epithelium, or RPE. The vascular density is also significantly lower in the eye of patients with geographic atrophy, supporting the hypothesis that geographic atrophy is a choroidal disease. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:13:25Therefore, drugs that directly target the choroid are important for GA as well as for wet AMD, and our suprachoroidal delivery platform does just that. Delivering small molecules via the suprachoroidal injection enables comprehensive drug coverage of both the retina and choroid, while also potentially minimizing systemic and anterior segment side effects. I'm pleased to report that our research team has made great progress in evaluating certain specific small molecules through in vivo models for the potential treatment of GA. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:14:06We are currently focused on two approaches. One may improve choroidal perfusion, and the other may moderate pro-inflammatory cells. Our team is doing the necessary work to potentially advance one or both of these candidates toward an investigational new drug application. As George described, our partners continue to make extensive progress with their respective suprachoroidal delivery programs, utilizing our SCS Microinjectors. This advancement, combined with our positive CLS-AX result, showed that our innovative suprachoroidal delivery platform could have a tremendous impact in the treatment of retinal diseases. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:14:54I'm excited by what the future holds for Clearside and suprachoroidal drug administration. With that, I'll now turn the call to our CFO, Charlie Deignan, to provide a financial update. Charlie DeignanCFO at Clearside Biomedical00:15:10Thank you, Victor, and good afternoon, everyone. Our financial results for the third quarter 2024 were published earlier in our press release and are available on our website. Therefore, I will just provide a summary of our financial status on today's call. As of September 30, 2024, our cash and cash equivalents totaled approximately $23.6 million. We believe we have sufficient resources to fund our planned operations into the third quarter of 2025. This supports planning for our CLS-AX phase 3 program and research work to expand our pipeline into geographic atrophy. Charlie DeignanCFO at Clearside Biomedical00:15:48We look forward to participating in the Stifel Healthcare Conference next week, and we will continue to update you on our progress. I will now turn the call over to George for his closing remarks. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:15:58Thank you, Charlie. Earlier this month, we made a couple of key personnel changes to further advance our mission. Tony Gibney was appointed to serve as Chair of our Board of Directors, bringing many years of relevant ophthalmic business development and strategic experience, most recently serving as the Executive Vice President, Chief Business and Strategy Officer of Iveric Bio. During his time as a Director for Clearside, Tony has been a very active contributor, working closely with management and providing valuable strategic and financial guidance. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:16:30I'd like to thank Clay Thorp, our outgoing Chairman, for his support and significant contributions during his tenure. Clay will remain as a valued member of our Board of Directors. In addition, Victor Chong has assumed a broader set of management responsibilities to utilize his extensive expertise in advancing drugs from preclinical through clinical development to commercialization. In his expanded role as Chief Medical Officer and Executive Vice President, Head of Research and Development, Victor will lead our preclinical, clinical, and medical affairs teams, providing an efficient structure as we prepare for the CLS-AX and the phase 2 meeting, plan for phase 3, and advance our preclinical suprachoroidal programs. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:17:15In summary, we are very excited that our innovative drug delivery platform is now being used in commercial products and promising clinical development programs by Bausch + Lomb, REGENXBIO and AbbVie, Arctic Vision and Santen, Aura Biosciences, and BioCryst Pharmaceuticals. We remain motivated by the progress made internally and with our partners to expand the use of our differentiated suprachoroidal delivery pipeline to treat patients with numerous retinal diseases. I would now like to ask the operator to open the call up for questions. Operator00:17:54Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting our question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press Star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. If you wish to remove your question, you may press Star 2. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the Star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Thank you. Our first question is coming from Annabel Samimy with Stifel. Your line is live. Annabel SamimyMd & Senior Analyst in Healthcare at Stifel00:18:31Hi, all. Thanks for taking my questions. So I had a few. I guess you just presented your data at AAO. I was just wondering if you can give us some feedback on what you heard. And I'm specifically interested in what they thought of the study design that incorporated retreatment rather than supplemental rescue with aflibercept. And also, what's the feedback on the three to six months flexibility that you're looking for on your label relative to some of the competitors that might be looking for longer duration flexibility? So I guess that's the first question. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:19:14All right. Thanks, Annabel. It's George. Appreciate that. Let me just say I'll make a comment or two, then I'll turn it over to Victor, who can spend more and go into the details more. We had a very good AAO meeting. I think people were very happy with the data that we presented. They thought it was very strong data. It was very favorably received by the KOLs we talked to. We had a scientific advisory board. I think everybody looked at the data and felt it was very positive. And clearly, it was a product that should advance on to phase 3. As to the specific questions that you asked, I'll let Victor address some of those. Victor? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:19:56Thank you, George. Thank you, Annabel. I think in AAO that our message is getting through as a key differentiation about the flexibility. I think before that, there was still some confusion about the priority and the suggestion and the argument between different companies. I think that now that it's become very clear that we are the only ones who are offering a variability, and actually, that the variability is actually what physicians really are very keen on, and I think that's really supporting our notion on the commercial side. Sorry, I apologize. Other than that part, what was the other part of the question? Annabel SamimyMd & Senior Analyst in Healthcare at Stifel00:20:45The flexibility was one. And then what were their thoughts about the retreatment rather than the traditional supplemental Aflibercept design in the trial? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:20:58Yeah. Yeah. So I think that was in the beginning that people not totally understanding the separate differences. In academia, that we had multiple presentations, people were starting to understand that differences. And our phase 2 design enabled for us to read those already. And again, allow that people to understand that it's already possible in our phase 2. So I think all those are positive to show a differentiation in the marketplace and potentially also showed a preference of KOL and physicians that how they can think about that in the future to incorporate in their practice. And as I mentioned earlier, the flexible dosing is critical for them. Annabel SamimyMd & Senior Analyst in Healthcare at Stifel00:21:48Okay. Got it. And then some questions regarding dosing of CLS-AX at the second Aflibercept dose rather than the third. Were there any, I guess, concerns or inability to tease out the effect of Aflibercept rather than that of CLS-AX at 12 weeks? And do you have any details on who might have been rescued rather than retreated in a less than 12-week timeframe? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:22:27So I think that wasn't really discussed by most people. Certainly, no one really questioned that. And in fact, that's because we have decided to confirm that every patient that when the first intervention would be on redosing with our drug. So I think I appreciate that there has been a little bit of confusion about the concept of intervention. So in our phase 2b study, every first intervention will be on our drug. So they will never be using Aflibercept. And second is that on the, sorry, Annabel. Annabel SamimyMd & Senior Analyst in Healthcare at Stifel00:23:18Yeah. I guess I'm curious if there was any data prior to 12 weeks on who might have been rescued rather than retreated by presuming every intervention was on? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:23:30Correct. So there was actually no intervention needed at all. I think that was—I can appreciate that you were not quite understanding that was what you're asking. So when we were sharing that there was no intervention at all up to week 12. So that was absolutely no intervention, not just that no redosing because no one needed it. Annabel SamimyMd & Senior Analyst in Healthcare at Stifel00:23:57Okay. Got it. And I guess it's too early to talk about non-inferiority margins for phase 3. Would it be the standard that FDA typically looks for, or could it be smaller or larger? What are your thoughts around what non-inferiority is going to mean for phase 3? Or it's going to be defined as in phase 3? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:24:21Yeah. I think the draft guideline has suggested a four-and-a-half letter, and I think that the agency that's still holding that is the expected non-inferiority margin is four-and-a-half letter. Annabel SamimyMd & Senior Analyst in Healthcare at Stifel00:24:40Okay. Great. Thank you. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:24:43Just to be clear, Annabel, we have not gone, we don't have our end of phase 2 meeting until maybe sometime early in 2025. And all that will end up being worked out and be clear by then, exactly the specifications of the phase 3 trials. Annabel SamimyMd & Senior Analyst in Healthcare at Stifel00:25:04Okay. Great. Yeah. No, I appreciate that. Thank you. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:25:07Okay. Operator00:25:10Thank you. Our next question is coming from Andreas Argyrides with Oppenheimer. Your line is live. Andreas ArgyridesExecutive Director & Senior Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co00:25:19Thank you for taking our questions. Two for us here. And I know it's early and you haven't had your end of phase 2, but I think it is helpful to kind of maybe get a little bit of sense of the phase 3 trial design. And maybe to some extent, you made comments in the past about sizing and kind of maybe patient criteria. So maybe, I mean, to whatever-to what you can kind of provide a little bit more data after having thought about it and talked to KOLs at AAO and the like and digesting the data, how you're thinking about this and positioning essentially CLS-AX in the best position versus the competition as well in the TKI space. Andreas ArgyridesExecutive Director & Senior Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co00:26:13Then just looking into 2025, could you give us some additional color on the expansion of the Geographic Atrophy program and what we may be able to get or in terms of early data? That'd be helpful. Thanks, guys. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:26:28All right. Victor? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:26:31Yes. I think we have previously shared that we are targeting to have the end of phase 2 meeting with the agency early in 2025, and as we said earlier, that we will finalize the data and finalize our design then. Currently, as we also shared earlier, that our phase 3 design will be thought similar to the Aflibercept high-dose and Faricimab design, so basically, it's a non-inferiority design with flexible dosing and compared with Aflibercept 2 milligram on label. At the moment that our position is thought to minor need patients, and whether that further detail that we will share as time goes along. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:27:23In reference to geographic atrophy, I think that was the second question. Like what we shared earlier, that we have looking at several molecules. There are small molecules that can utilize our suspension platform, which is proven. And then to see whether that we can delivering those molecules. And in particularly, there's two areas that are of particular interest to us. One is improving choroidal perfusion, and the other one is to moderate pro-inflammatory cell. And those two pathways are potentially important pathways from that perspective. And that is what we are working on at this stage. Andreas ArgyridesExecutive Director & Senior Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co00:28:24Okay. And just one last follow-up. And just looking into 2025 and the end of phase 2, when do you think you might start the phase 3 trial? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:28:35At the moment that our target is to start the phase 3 trial in the second half of 2025. Andreas ArgyridesExecutive Director & Senior Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co00:28:43Fantastic. Thanks for the color there, and congrats on all the progress this quarter. Thanks. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:28:48Thank you. Operator00:28:51Thank you. Our next question is coming from Devanjana Chatterjee with JonesTrading. Your line is live. Debanjana ChatterjeeSenior Analyst & Vp at JonesTrading00:28:59Hi. Thanks for taking my question. So I wanted to ask if you will be sharing any additional data analysis from Odyssey. And if so, when can we expect it, and what data points will you report on? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:29:13Yeah. So we're going to share more data in the upcoming medical conferences, including sharing in Singapore in the Asia-Pacific Vitreo-retina Society meeting, the APVRS meeting. We are also looking at presenting some data in EURETINA in Florence in December in Europe. And at the same time, that we were also presenting potentially more data in the Hawaiian Eye and Retina meeting as well as the Angiogenesis meeting in the US in January and early February. Debanjana ChatterjeeSenior Analyst & Vp at JonesTrading00:29:54Yeah. That's very helpful. Would you be able to share what kind of data points we might expect? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:30:01Yeah. So I think that the type of data that we are sharing is to clarify some of the areas that we might have some real confusion in the top-line results and also some of the additional analysis that we are putting together. Debanjana ChatterjeeSenior Analyst & Vp at JonesTrading00:30:29Okay. Thank you so much. Operator00:30:34Thank you. Our next question is coming from Yi Chen with H.C. Wainwright. Your line is live. Yi ChenMd of Equity Research & Senior Healthcare Analyst at HC Wainwright00:30:42Hi. This is Eduardo on for Yi Chen. Just to start off, if you anticipate any apprehension for the FDA that would make them not want to recommend the redosing with the TKI within six months? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:31:02Sorry that I missed the question. If I just make sure that I answered the question. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:31:06I think what he's asking is, is there any reason to believe the FDA may not look kindly on us redosing with CLS-AX less than every six months? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:31:19Oh, you mean the agency? I'm sorry. I mean the FDA. Yi ChenMd of Equity Research & Senior Healthcare Analyst at HC Wainwright00:31:22The agency. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:31:24Yeah. Yeah, so on our phase 2 study, we've already done that. I think that we are really more confident than anyone else, if anything, that because we have data to support that we will already be able to redose on phase 2. And in addition to that, as we have previously shared, that if a small number of patients even have repeat dose of CLS-AX within the 36 weeks, they are a minority, but that also providing even additional safety data supporting multiple redosing is certainly possible, so we don't have any concern from the agency perspective. Yi ChenMd of Equity Research & Senior Healthcare Analyst at HC Wainwright00:32:10Got it. Got it. And in regards to the phase 3 program for the Wet AMD asset, do you have an estimated cost for what that would be? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:32:22That's something that we're still working on. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:32:24Yeah. We're still working on that. As we put together the final trial design, that will come into focus. So right now, I think it's premature to talk about that, but we'll have those kind of details will certainly be available as we finalize that phase 3 design, have our end of phase 2 meeting. We're working very hard on that right now. Yi ChenMd of Equity Research & Senior Healthcare Analyst at HC Wainwright00:32:51Understood. And then in the geographic atrophy studies that you were doing, I was hoping to get you mentioned a few comments on the endothelial cells and why you considered a choroidal disease versus a retinal one. Could you elaborate a little bit on that and the mechanism there? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:33:10Yeah. I think that when we talk about geographic atrophy, because the FDA approval and the clinical endpoint is on RPE cell death. I think that a lot of people somewhat automatically assume that RPE cell death was the primary problem. Indeed, what we have seen a lot of data showing that there was a lot of choroidal damage occur way before RPE cell death. In fact, the RPE cell death is almost like the terminal effect. We believe that treating the cause rather than just the last bit of preventing the RPE cell death would be able to provide additional efficacy. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:34:02At the moment, the current approved therapy that they probably wouldn't necessarily get to the choroid because they are quite big. From a complement point of view, you have a lot of complement activation even on the choroidal side as well. That is actually one of the reasons that would be that we think that the relatively limited efficacy for the current treatment related to that, that they are only treating the RPE side. I think that was something that we think that using suprachoroidal and small molecule, that we can get a comprehensive drug delivery to both the choroidal side as well as the retinal side and obviously the RPE cell in the retinal side. Yi ChenMd of Equity Research & Senior Healthcare Analyst at HC Wainwright00:34:58Got it. And do you have a timeline for IND submission? I know you guys are kind of still in the exploratory phase and you're in vivo models, but just any color there would be helpful. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:35:07Yeah. We think it's too early to say exactly when, but it is a so we are working on that. And I think we are already moving towards a more specific candidate to move forward. So it's not just a building model, but we have candidates. Yi ChenMd of Equity Research & Senior Healthcare Analyst at HC Wainwright00:35:32Got it. Thank you. Operator00:35:37Thank you. As we have no further questions on the lines at this time, I would like to turn it back over to Mr. Lasezkay for any closing remarks. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:35:48Thank you, Ali. Thank you all for joining us on the call this afternoon. We appreciate your continued interest in Clearside, and we look forward to updating you on our progress. Operator, you may not disconnect the call. Thanks again. Operator00:36:04Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's call, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. We thank you for your participation.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesGeorge LasezkayCEOVictor ChongCMOJenny KobinHead of Investor RelationsCharlie DeignanCFOAnalystsDebanjana ChatterjeeSenior Analyst & Vp at JonesTradingYi ChenMd of Equity Research & Senior Healthcare Analyst at HC WainwrightAnnabel SamimyMd & Senior Analyst in Healthcare at StifelAndreas ArgyridesExecutive Director & Senior Analyst at Oppenheimer & CoPowered by Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Clearside Biomedical Earnings HeadlinesClearside Biomedical Faces Delisting After Bankruptcy FilingNovember 25, 2025 | msn.comClearside Biomedical to pursue sale of business via Chapter 11 processNovember 24, 2025 | msn.com$30 stock to buy before Starlink goes public (WATCH NOW!)A little-known stock pick with money-doubling potential over the next year is revealed for free in the first three minutes of a new video. This company is a critical piece of Elon Musk's fast-growing Starlink technology. 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Email Address About Clearside BiomedicalClearside Biomedical (NASDAQ:CLSD) is a clinical-stage biopharmaceutical company focused on developing and commercializing novel therapies for diseases affecting the back of the eye. The company’s proprietary SCS Microinjector® platform enables targeted delivery of therapeutics into the suprachoroidal space, a potential route to enhance local drug exposure while minimizing off-target effects. Clearside’s approach is designed to address a range of retinal disorders by directly depositing medication adjacent to choroid and retina. The company’s lead approved product is XIPERE® (triamcinolone acetonide injectable suspension), which has received U.S. Food and Drug Administration clearance for the treatment of macular edema associated with uveitis. In addition to XIPERE, Clearside has advanced several pipeline candidates, including CLS-AX (axitinib injectable suspension) for neovascular age-related macular degeneration and other small-molecule and biologic programs leveraging the suprachoroidal route. These programs are in various stages of clinical development, targeting indications such as diabetic macular edema and wet AMD. Founded in 2010 and headquartered in Alpharetta, Georgia, Clearside Biomedical completed its initial public offering on the Nasdaq Stock Market under the ticker “CLSD.” The company is led by President and Chief Executive Officer Samir Melhem, who has overseen clinical and regulatory milestones, including FDA approval of XIPERE. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Welcome to the Clearside Biomedical Q3 2024 Financial Results and Corporate Update call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode, and a question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Jenny Kobin, Investor Relations. Ma'am, you may begin. Jenny KobinHead of Investor Relations at Clearside Biomedical00:00:34Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us on the call today. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that during today's call, we will be making certain forward-looking statements. Various remarks that we make during this call about the company's future expectations, plans, and prospects constitute forward-looking statements for purposes of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by these forward-looking statements as a result of various important factors, including those discussed in the risk factor section of our annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2023, that was filed on March 12, 2024, and our quarterly report on Form 10-Q for the quarter ended September 30, 2024, filed today, and our other SEC filings available on our website. Jenny KobinHead of Investor Relations at Clearside Biomedical00:01:35In addition, any forward-looking statements represent our views as of today and should not be relied upon as representing our views as of any subsequent date. While we may elect to update these forward-looking statements in the future, we specifically disclaim any obligation to do so, even if our views change. On today's call, we have George Lasezkay, our Chief Executive Officer, Dr. Victor Chong, our Chief Medical Officer, and Charlie Deignan, our Chief Financial Officer. After our formal remarks, we will open the call for your questions. I would now like to turn the call over to George. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:02:14Thank you, Jenny, and good afternoon, everyone. We continue to make outstanding progress advancing our differentiated suprachoroidal delivery pipeline. Last month, we reported the positive results from our Odyssey phase 2b clinical trial in patients with wet AMD. These data strongly support the potential efficacy, safety, and versatility of CLS-AX to treat this chronic disease. We believe CLS-AX is now positioned for real-world success in the wet AMD market, with its potential to provide physicians with an extended duration maintenance therapy combined with the option for flexible redosing. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:02:51These features may improve outcomes and reduce the treatment burden for patients and their caregivers. Importantly, Odyssey also demonstrated a positive safety profile with the ability to redose with our own drug as part of a maintenance treatment regimen. We are the only TKI wet AMD program with repeat dosing data, giving us a competitive advantage as we advance CLS-AX into phase 3. In addition to our wet AMD program, our research team is currently evaluating certain specific small molecules through in vivo models for the potential treatment of geographic atrophy, a market size valued at over $20 billion in sales. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:03:30Victor will expand on this opportunity in his remarks. We are also working to expand the overall value of our suprachoroidal platform. Clearside is the proven leader in delivery of drugs to the suprachoroidal space. Our SCS microinjector continues to provide safe and reliable delivery with well over 10,000 injections performed to date. We have successfully navigated the drug-device regulatory pathway to obtain commercial approval for XIPERE, the first and only FDA-approved product for suprachoroidal administration, and a permanent CPT code has been granted for suprachoroidal injections as a result of XIPERE's U.S. approval. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:04:09A tremendous amount of work is also happening behind the scenes. We have solidified our formulation expertise in developing suspensions that can be delivered into the suprachoroidal space, and we have commercial-scale microinjector manufacturing capability that includes ISO certification. This industry-leading know-how continues to be recognized. We are seeing significant interest among the retinal specialist community and from leading biopharmaceutical companies in applying our innovative approach to treating serious retinal diseases. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:04:40The last several months have seen continued advancement by our collaboration partners. In the Asia-Pacific region, our partner Arctic Vision has made excellent progress advancing the development of XIPERE, including regulatory reviews in Australia and Singapore and a pending regulatory submission in China. We were delighted by the announcement last week of the commercial collaboration between Arctic Vision and Santen Pharmaceuticals, a highly respected global ophthalmic company. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:05:09This collaboration leverages the capabilities of Santen to bring this potential important treatment to patients with uveitic macular edema in China. Importantly, this partnership is tremendously gratifying as it provides additional strategic validation of our suprachoroidal delivery platform by another global pharmaceutical company. REGENXBIO has partnered with AbbVie to utilize our SCS Microinjector to deliver their gene therapy ABBV-RGX-314 for the treatment of wet AMD, diabetic retinopathy, and diabetic macular edema. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:05:44Last week, they reported on their programs administering 314 via our SCS Microinjector. Based on the positive interim results from phase 2 Altitude Trial in diabetic retinopathy, AbbVie and REGENXBIO have accelerated a planned end-of-phase 2 meeting with the FDA that they now expect to have this quarter. REGENXBIO expects to initiate the first global pivotal trial in diabetic retinopathy in the first half of 2025. In addition, Altitude is enrolling a new cohort of patients with center-involved diabetic macular edema. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:06:21Finally, in wet AMD, the phase 2 AAVIATE trial is enrolling a new cohort based on a favorable safety profile and to evaluate dose levels for a planned pivotal program. At the Retina Society annual meeting in September, our ocular oncology partner, Aura Biosciences, presented positive phase 2 end-of-study results evaluating bel-sar for the first-line treatment of early-stage choroidal melanoma. Aura continues to enroll their global phase 3 trial in choroidal melanoma. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:06:55We have been working closely with our partner BioCryst Pharmaceuticals on the formulation of their plasma kallikrein inhibitor, Avoralstat. In 2025, BioCryst plans to advance Avoralstat into a clinical trial of patients with diabetic macular edema. BioCryst believes that Avoralstat, delivered to the suprachoroidal space as a depot formulation utilizing our SCS Microinjector, can potentially provide high drug levels to the retinal vessels with long-lasting exposure. With that, I would now like to hand the call over to our Chief Medical Officer, Dr. Victor Chong, to provide additional perspectives on our Odyssey results, the current plans for our phase 3 program, and exciting new opportunity to expand our suprachoroidal pipeline. Victor? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:07:42Thank you, George, and good afternoon, everyone. We are extremely pleased with the Odyssey trial result, which we reported last month, which exceeded our expectations for the data needed to advance CLS-AX into phase 3 development. There were three key objectives we were looking for from the Odyssey trial. First, safety. We showed that the CLS-AX was well tolerated and maintained a positive safety profile with repeat dosing of the drug. This was especially important as almost all of the patients were administered at least two doses of CLS-AX. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:08:24Importantly, our phase 2b trial had no treatment-related serious adverse events, including no endophthalmitis and no retinal vasculitis. Second, efficacy. We saw stable measurement of best corrected visual acuity and central subfield thickness. We were able to maintain vision over 36 weeks, with BCVA within two letters from baseline at both week 24 and week 36. We were also able to demonstrate that CLS-AX reduced CST fluctuations and provides stable anatomical control over 36 weeks, as confirmed by independent reading center. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:09:10And third, duration and reduction of treatment burden. We were able to show an 84% reduction in the frequency of injection after the initial dose of CLS-AX, with approximately 90% of CLS-AX participants not requiring any additional treatment up to four months, 81% up to five months, and 67% up to six months. Wet AMD is a chronic disease. Over the patient's lifetime, they will be given numerous injections to maintain vision and stabilize the disease. We are developing CLS-AX as a maintenance treatment, and the fact that we demonstrated the ability to administer multiple doses of CLS-AX was a critical component of the Odyssey trial. We want CLS-AX to be easily adopted into current physician practice. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:10:14Based on the input we have received from numerous clinicians, in order to be meaningful, a new therapy entering the wet AMD market needs to have the option of flexible dosing. Any new agent that can only be dosed every six months will be a challenge for physicians to utilize. The frequency of treatment differs from patient to patient. In fact, even from eye to eye in the same patient, the frequency might differ. Physicians need the flexibility to deliver a treatment that will accommodate the varying needs and schedule for each eye of the patient at different times of the treatment journey. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:10:55We continue to evaluate data from the Odyssey trial to help refine our phase 3 plans. We are focused on designing a phase 3 program that will produce data supportive of label, with flexible dosing between three to six months. As I mentioned, this will align with the current wet AMD treatment approach desired by most retinal specialists and enable easy adoption in the physician practice. Keeping in mind that our phase 3 plans remain in development and are subject to change, we are currently planning to run two phase 3 trials with aflibercept 2 mg as a comparator. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:11:43We are likely to conduct the study in true naive patients with a flexible dosing component, consistent with the phase 3 trial design for recently approved aflibercept high dose and faricimab. We expect to conduct an end-of-phase 2 meeting with the FDA in early 2025 to present and finalize our plans. One of the main reasons I joined Clearside was to further explore the potential for suprachoroidal delivery with our SCS microinjector. Over the course of my career, I have had a great deal of translational experience in advancing new molecules into the clinic, and I see many opportunities to utilize our device and formulation platform to potentially expand our pipeline. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:12:37Beyond wet AMD, we are targeting geographic atrophy, a prevalent disease with a market size valued at over $20 billion in sales. We believe that geographic atrophy is primarily a choroidal disease. Several of my colleagues in the academic world have demonstrated that endothelial cells in the choroid are damaged even well before any significant change occurs in the retinal pigment epithelium, or RPE. The vascular density is also significantly lower in the eye of patients with geographic atrophy, supporting the hypothesis that geographic atrophy is a choroidal disease. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:13:25Therefore, drugs that directly target the choroid are important for GA as well as for wet AMD, and our suprachoroidal delivery platform does just that. Delivering small molecules via the suprachoroidal injection enables comprehensive drug coverage of both the retina and choroid, while also potentially minimizing systemic and anterior segment side effects. I'm pleased to report that our research team has made great progress in evaluating certain specific small molecules through in vivo models for the potential treatment of GA. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:14:06We are currently focused on two approaches. One may improve choroidal perfusion, and the other may moderate pro-inflammatory cells. Our team is doing the necessary work to potentially advance one or both of these candidates toward an investigational new drug application. As George described, our partners continue to make extensive progress with their respective suprachoroidal delivery programs, utilizing our SCS Microinjectors. This advancement, combined with our positive CLS-AX result, showed that our innovative suprachoroidal delivery platform could have a tremendous impact in the treatment of retinal diseases. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:14:54I'm excited by what the future holds for Clearside and suprachoroidal drug administration. With that, I'll now turn the call to our CFO, Charlie Deignan, to provide a financial update. Charlie DeignanCFO at Clearside Biomedical00:15:10Thank you, Victor, and good afternoon, everyone. Our financial results for the third quarter 2024 were published earlier in our press release and are available on our website. Therefore, I will just provide a summary of our financial status on today's call. As of September 30, 2024, our cash and cash equivalents totaled approximately $23.6 million. We believe we have sufficient resources to fund our planned operations into the third quarter of 2025. This supports planning for our CLS-AX phase 3 program and research work to expand our pipeline into geographic atrophy. Charlie DeignanCFO at Clearside Biomedical00:15:48We look forward to participating in the Stifel Healthcare Conference next week, and we will continue to update you on our progress. I will now turn the call over to George for his closing remarks. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:15:58Thank you, Charlie. Earlier this month, we made a couple of key personnel changes to further advance our mission. Tony Gibney was appointed to serve as Chair of our Board of Directors, bringing many years of relevant ophthalmic business development and strategic experience, most recently serving as the Executive Vice President, Chief Business and Strategy Officer of Iveric Bio. During his time as a Director for Clearside, Tony has been a very active contributor, working closely with management and providing valuable strategic and financial guidance. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:16:30I'd like to thank Clay Thorp, our outgoing Chairman, for his support and significant contributions during his tenure. Clay will remain as a valued member of our Board of Directors. In addition, Victor Chong has assumed a broader set of management responsibilities to utilize his extensive expertise in advancing drugs from preclinical through clinical development to commercialization. In his expanded role as Chief Medical Officer and Executive Vice President, Head of Research and Development, Victor will lead our preclinical, clinical, and medical affairs teams, providing an efficient structure as we prepare for the CLS-AX and the phase 2 meeting, plan for phase 3, and advance our preclinical suprachoroidal programs. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:17:15In summary, we are very excited that our innovative drug delivery platform is now being used in commercial products and promising clinical development programs by Bausch + Lomb, REGENXBIO and AbbVie, Arctic Vision and Santen, Aura Biosciences, and BioCryst Pharmaceuticals. We remain motivated by the progress made internally and with our partners to expand the use of our differentiated suprachoroidal delivery pipeline to treat patients with numerous retinal diseases. I would now like to ask the operator to open the call up for questions. Operator00:17:54Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting our question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press Star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. If you wish to remove your question, you may press Star 2. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the Star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Thank you. Our first question is coming from Annabel Samimy with Stifel. Your line is live. Annabel SamimyMd & Senior Analyst in Healthcare at Stifel00:18:31Hi, all. Thanks for taking my questions. So I had a few. I guess you just presented your data at AAO. I was just wondering if you can give us some feedback on what you heard. And I'm specifically interested in what they thought of the study design that incorporated retreatment rather than supplemental rescue with aflibercept. And also, what's the feedback on the three to six months flexibility that you're looking for on your label relative to some of the competitors that might be looking for longer duration flexibility? So I guess that's the first question. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:19:14All right. Thanks, Annabel. It's George. Appreciate that. Let me just say I'll make a comment or two, then I'll turn it over to Victor, who can spend more and go into the details more. We had a very good AAO meeting. I think people were very happy with the data that we presented. They thought it was very strong data. It was very favorably received by the KOLs we talked to. We had a scientific advisory board. I think everybody looked at the data and felt it was very positive. And clearly, it was a product that should advance on to phase 3. As to the specific questions that you asked, I'll let Victor address some of those. Victor? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:19:56Thank you, George. Thank you, Annabel. I think in AAO that our message is getting through as a key differentiation about the flexibility. I think before that, there was still some confusion about the priority and the suggestion and the argument between different companies. I think that now that it's become very clear that we are the only ones who are offering a variability, and actually, that the variability is actually what physicians really are very keen on, and I think that's really supporting our notion on the commercial side. Sorry, I apologize. Other than that part, what was the other part of the question? Annabel SamimyMd & Senior Analyst in Healthcare at Stifel00:20:45The flexibility was one. And then what were their thoughts about the retreatment rather than the traditional supplemental Aflibercept design in the trial? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:20:58Yeah. Yeah. So I think that was in the beginning that people not totally understanding the separate differences. In academia, that we had multiple presentations, people were starting to understand that differences. And our phase 2 design enabled for us to read those already. And again, allow that people to understand that it's already possible in our phase 2. So I think all those are positive to show a differentiation in the marketplace and potentially also showed a preference of KOL and physicians that how they can think about that in the future to incorporate in their practice. And as I mentioned earlier, the flexible dosing is critical for them. Annabel SamimyMd & Senior Analyst in Healthcare at Stifel00:21:48Okay. Got it. And then some questions regarding dosing of CLS-AX at the second Aflibercept dose rather than the third. Were there any, I guess, concerns or inability to tease out the effect of Aflibercept rather than that of CLS-AX at 12 weeks? And do you have any details on who might have been rescued rather than retreated in a less than 12-week timeframe? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:22:27So I think that wasn't really discussed by most people. Certainly, no one really questioned that. And in fact, that's because we have decided to confirm that every patient that when the first intervention would be on redosing with our drug. So I think I appreciate that there has been a little bit of confusion about the concept of intervention. So in our phase 2b study, every first intervention will be on our drug. So they will never be using Aflibercept. And second is that on the, sorry, Annabel. Annabel SamimyMd & Senior Analyst in Healthcare at Stifel00:23:18Yeah. I guess I'm curious if there was any data prior to 12 weeks on who might have been rescued rather than retreated by presuming every intervention was on? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:23:30Correct. So there was actually no intervention needed at all. I think that was—I can appreciate that you were not quite understanding that was what you're asking. So when we were sharing that there was no intervention at all up to week 12. So that was absolutely no intervention, not just that no redosing because no one needed it. Annabel SamimyMd & Senior Analyst in Healthcare at Stifel00:23:57Okay. Got it. And I guess it's too early to talk about non-inferiority margins for phase 3. Would it be the standard that FDA typically looks for, or could it be smaller or larger? What are your thoughts around what non-inferiority is going to mean for phase 3? Or it's going to be defined as in phase 3? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:24:21Yeah. I think the draft guideline has suggested a four-and-a-half letter, and I think that the agency that's still holding that is the expected non-inferiority margin is four-and-a-half letter. Annabel SamimyMd & Senior Analyst in Healthcare at Stifel00:24:40Okay. Great. Thank you. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:24:43Just to be clear, Annabel, we have not gone, we don't have our end of phase 2 meeting until maybe sometime early in 2025. And all that will end up being worked out and be clear by then, exactly the specifications of the phase 3 trials. Annabel SamimyMd & Senior Analyst in Healthcare at Stifel00:25:04Okay. Great. Yeah. No, I appreciate that. Thank you. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:25:07Okay. Operator00:25:10Thank you. Our next question is coming from Andreas Argyrides with Oppenheimer. Your line is live. Andreas ArgyridesExecutive Director & Senior Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co00:25:19Thank you for taking our questions. Two for us here. And I know it's early and you haven't had your end of phase 2, but I think it is helpful to kind of maybe get a little bit of sense of the phase 3 trial design. And maybe to some extent, you made comments in the past about sizing and kind of maybe patient criteria. So maybe, I mean, to whatever-to what you can kind of provide a little bit more data after having thought about it and talked to KOLs at AAO and the like and digesting the data, how you're thinking about this and positioning essentially CLS-AX in the best position versus the competition as well in the TKI space. Andreas ArgyridesExecutive Director & Senior Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co00:26:13Then just looking into 2025, could you give us some additional color on the expansion of the Geographic Atrophy program and what we may be able to get or in terms of early data? That'd be helpful. Thanks, guys. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:26:28All right. Victor? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:26:31Yes. I think we have previously shared that we are targeting to have the end of phase 2 meeting with the agency early in 2025, and as we said earlier, that we will finalize the data and finalize our design then. Currently, as we also shared earlier, that our phase 3 design will be thought similar to the Aflibercept high-dose and Faricimab design, so basically, it's a non-inferiority design with flexible dosing and compared with Aflibercept 2 milligram on label. At the moment that our position is thought to minor need patients, and whether that further detail that we will share as time goes along. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:27:23In reference to geographic atrophy, I think that was the second question. Like what we shared earlier, that we have looking at several molecules. There are small molecules that can utilize our suspension platform, which is proven. And then to see whether that we can delivering those molecules. And in particularly, there's two areas that are of particular interest to us. One is improving choroidal perfusion, and the other one is to moderate pro-inflammatory cell. And those two pathways are potentially important pathways from that perspective. And that is what we are working on at this stage. Andreas ArgyridesExecutive Director & Senior Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co00:28:24Okay. And just one last follow-up. And just looking into 2025 and the end of phase 2, when do you think you might start the phase 3 trial? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:28:35At the moment that our target is to start the phase 3 trial in the second half of 2025. Andreas ArgyridesExecutive Director & Senior Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co00:28:43Fantastic. Thanks for the color there, and congrats on all the progress this quarter. Thanks. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:28:48Thank you. Operator00:28:51Thank you. Our next question is coming from Devanjana Chatterjee with JonesTrading. Your line is live. Debanjana ChatterjeeSenior Analyst & Vp at JonesTrading00:28:59Hi. Thanks for taking my question. So I wanted to ask if you will be sharing any additional data analysis from Odyssey. And if so, when can we expect it, and what data points will you report on? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:29:13Yeah. So we're going to share more data in the upcoming medical conferences, including sharing in Singapore in the Asia-Pacific Vitreo-retina Society meeting, the APVRS meeting. We are also looking at presenting some data in EURETINA in Florence in December in Europe. And at the same time, that we were also presenting potentially more data in the Hawaiian Eye and Retina meeting as well as the Angiogenesis meeting in the US in January and early February. Debanjana ChatterjeeSenior Analyst & Vp at JonesTrading00:29:54Yeah. That's very helpful. Would you be able to share what kind of data points we might expect? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:30:01Yeah. So I think that the type of data that we are sharing is to clarify some of the areas that we might have some real confusion in the top-line results and also some of the additional analysis that we are putting together. Debanjana ChatterjeeSenior Analyst & Vp at JonesTrading00:30:29Okay. Thank you so much. Operator00:30:34Thank you. Our next question is coming from Yi Chen with H.C. Wainwright. Your line is live. Yi ChenMd of Equity Research & Senior Healthcare Analyst at HC Wainwright00:30:42Hi. This is Eduardo on for Yi Chen. Just to start off, if you anticipate any apprehension for the FDA that would make them not want to recommend the redosing with the TKI within six months? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:31:02Sorry that I missed the question. If I just make sure that I answered the question. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:31:06I think what he's asking is, is there any reason to believe the FDA may not look kindly on us redosing with CLS-AX less than every six months? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:31:19Oh, you mean the agency? I'm sorry. I mean the FDA. Yi ChenMd of Equity Research & Senior Healthcare Analyst at HC Wainwright00:31:22The agency. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:31:24Yeah. Yeah, so on our phase 2 study, we've already done that. I think that we are really more confident than anyone else, if anything, that because we have data to support that we will already be able to redose on phase 2. And in addition to that, as we have previously shared, that if a small number of patients even have repeat dose of CLS-AX within the 36 weeks, they are a minority, but that also providing even additional safety data supporting multiple redosing is certainly possible, so we don't have any concern from the agency perspective. Yi ChenMd of Equity Research & Senior Healthcare Analyst at HC Wainwright00:32:10Got it. Got it. And in regards to the phase 3 program for the Wet AMD asset, do you have an estimated cost for what that would be? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:32:22That's something that we're still working on. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:32:24Yeah. We're still working on that. As we put together the final trial design, that will come into focus. So right now, I think it's premature to talk about that, but we'll have those kind of details will certainly be available as we finalize that phase 3 design, have our end of phase 2 meeting. We're working very hard on that right now. Yi ChenMd of Equity Research & Senior Healthcare Analyst at HC Wainwright00:32:51Understood. And then in the geographic atrophy studies that you were doing, I was hoping to get you mentioned a few comments on the endothelial cells and why you considered a choroidal disease versus a retinal one. Could you elaborate a little bit on that and the mechanism there? Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:33:10Yeah. I think that when we talk about geographic atrophy, because the FDA approval and the clinical endpoint is on RPE cell death. I think that a lot of people somewhat automatically assume that RPE cell death was the primary problem. Indeed, what we have seen a lot of data showing that there was a lot of choroidal damage occur way before RPE cell death. In fact, the RPE cell death is almost like the terminal effect. We believe that treating the cause rather than just the last bit of preventing the RPE cell death would be able to provide additional efficacy. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:34:02At the moment, the current approved therapy that they probably wouldn't necessarily get to the choroid because they are quite big. From a complement point of view, you have a lot of complement activation even on the choroidal side as well. That is actually one of the reasons that would be that we think that the relatively limited efficacy for the current treatment related to that, that they are only treating the RPE side. I think that was something that we think that using suprachoroidal and small molecule, that we can get a comprehensive drug delivery to both the choroidal side as well as the retinal side and obviously the RPE cell in the retinal side. Yi ChenMd of Equity Research & Senior Healthcare Analyst at HC Wainwright00:34:58Got it. And do you have a timeline for IND submission? I know you guys are kind of still in the exploratory phase and you're in vivo models, but just any color there would be helpful. Victor ChongCMO at Clearside Biomedical00:35:07Yeah. We think it's too early to say exactly when, but it is a so we are working on that. And I think we are already moving towards a more specific candidate to move forward. So it's not just a building model, but we have candidates. Yi ChenMd of Equity Research & Senior Healthcare Analyst at HC Wainwright00:35:32Got it. Thank you. Operator00:35:37Thank you. As we have no further questions on the lines at this time, I would like to turn it back over to Mr. Lasezkay for any closing remarks. George LasezkayCEO at Clearside Biomedical00:35:48Thank you, Ali. Thank you all for joining us on the call this afternoon. We appreciate your continued interest in Clearside, and we look forward to updating you on our progress. Operator, you may not disconnect the call. Thanks again. Operator00:36:04Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's call, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. We thank you for your participation.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesGeorge LasezkayCEOVictor ChongCMOJenny KobinHead of Investor RelationsCharlie DeignanCFOAnalystsDebanjana ChatterjeeSenior Analyst & Vp at JonesTradingYi ChenMd of Equity Research & Senior Healthcare Analyst at HC WainwrightAnnabel SamimyMd & Senior Analyst in Healthcare at StifelAndreas ArgyridesExecutive Director & Senior Analyst at Oppenheimer & CoPowered by