EVgo Q3 2024 Earnings Results & Report

EVgo EPS Results

• Actual EPS: -$0.11
• Consensus EPS: -$0.10
• Beat/Miss: Missed by -$0.01
• One Year Ago EPS: -$0.09
• EPS Beat Rate: 7 of last 8 quarters

EVgo Revenue Results

• Actual Revenue: $67.50 million
• Expected Revenue: $66.52 million
• Beat/Miss: Beat by +$980.00 thousand
• YoY Revenue Growth: +92.30%

EVgo (NASDAQ:EVGO), Inc. operates a public electric vehicle (EV) fast-charging network in the United States. The company develops, owns, and operates charging stations designed primarily for drivers who need to recharge away from home, including at retail centers, grocery stores, parking facilities, and other convenient locations.

Through its EVgo network and mobile application, the company provides charging access, station availability and payment features, and related subscription options. EVgo also offers charging solutions for commercial fleets, rideshare drivers, businesses, utilities, automakers, and other partners. Its activities include site development, installation, operation, and maintenance of charging infrastructure, as well as software and network services.

Founded in 2010, EVgo serves customers across the United States and has expanded its network through partnerships with property owners, automakers, retailers, and government programs. The company became publicly traded in 2021 through a business combination with a special purpose acquisition company. Badar Khan serves as EVgo’s president and chief executive officer.

EVgo Q3 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

• Positive Sentiment: EVgo received a conditional commitment from the DOE for a up to $1.05 billion Title 17 loan guarantee to finance roughly 7,500 high‑power stalls across 30 states over five years, which management says would more than double its annual stall growth rate without issuing equity.
• Positive Sentiment: Q3 operational results were strong: revenue of $67.5 million (up 92% YoY), throughput doubled to 78 GWh, operational stalls rose ~34% to ~3,680, and customer accounts topped 1.2M with network utilization at 22% and average daily throughput per stall up 64% to 254 kWh.
• Positive Sentiment: Management raised the midpoint of 2024 guidance (full‑year revenue now $250–$265M) and reiterated a clear path to profitability, targeting full‑year Adjusted EBITDA break‑even in 2025 while improving adjusted EBITDA year‑over‑year in Q3.
• Positive Sentiment: EVgo signed an MOU with Delta Electronics to co‑develop a next‑generation 400 kW charging architecture targeting at least a 30% reduction in gross CapEx per stall (deployment expected in H2 2026), and is already realizing construction and prefabrication savings today.
• Negative Sentiment: Despite improvements, EVgo remains adjusted‑EBITDA negative (Q3 adjusted EBITDA was negative $8.9M) and partially relies on timing of monetization (30C sales), energy costs and closing the DOE loan—Q4 eXtend revenues may decline and energy cost volatility could affect near‑term results.

Presentation

[Operator]

Thank you for standing by. My name is Janine, and I will be your lead operator for today's call. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the EVgo Q3 2024 Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star followed by the number one on your touch-tone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star followed by the number one again. I would now like to turn the conference over to Heather Davis, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

[Heather Davis, VP of Investor Relations at EVgo]

Good morning and welcome to EVgo's Q3 2024 Earnings Call. My name is Heather Davis, and I'm the Vice President of Investor Relations at EVgo. Joining me on today's call are Badar Khan, EVgo's Chief Executive Officer, and Paul Dobson, EVgo's Chief Financial Officer. Our EVP of Finance and Accounting, Stephanie Lee, will join us for the question-and-answer portion of the call. Today, we will be discussing EVgo's Q3 Financial Results and our updated Outlook for 2024, followed by a Q&A session. Today's call is being webcast and can be accessed on the investor section of our website at investors.evgo.com. The call will be archived and available there along with the company's earnings release and investor presentation after the conclusion of this call. During the call, management will be making forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties, including expectations about future performance.

[Heather Davis, VP of Investor Relations at EVgo]

Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from our expectations are detailed in our SEC filings, including in the risk factor section of our most recent annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly report on Form 10-Q. The company's SEC filings are available on the investor section of our website. These forward-looking statements apply as of today, and we undertake no obligation to update these statements after the call. Also, please note that we will be referring to certain non-GAAP financial measures on the call. Information about these non-GAAP measures, including a reconciliation to the corresponding GAAP measures, can be found in the earnings materials available on the investor section of our website. With that, I'll turn the call over to Badar Khan, EVgo's CEO.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I want to take a moment to welcome Paul Dobson. Paul joined as our CFO at the beginning of October after a fulsome search. I've enjoyed partnering with him over the last six weeks at EVgo, and I know investors and analysts alike will appreciate his knowledge, strategic perspective, and stewardship of capital. I also want to address the outcome of the elections last week. In summary, we see little to no impact on our business relative to the illustrative targets that we've previously communicated of $200 million in Adjusted EBITDA in three to five years' time. Our largest states outside California in terms of throughput and some of the fastest-growing states of material size remain Texas, Florida, and Arizona.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

We now have operational stalls in 40 states, all of which are seeing strong growth in throughput, which suggests to us that EV adoption is occurring throughout the United States. The current administration has had two primary programs to provide funding for charging infrastructure: the $5 billion NEVI program focused on highways, funded by the bipartisan IIJA, and the 30C tax credit from the IRA. Of the NEVI funds deployed to date, the majority of these funds have been deployed in states that supported President-elect Trump. On the IRA, as has been widely reported, red states have been major beneficiaries of the investments coming out of the IRA more broadly. 30C is a technology-neutral tax credit supporting a range of alternative fuel vehicle refueling properties, including electric vehicles, hydrogen, natural gas, and biofuels, and has historically enjoyed bipartisan support in Congress.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

The cost of the 30C Tax Credit is quite small and is estimated to represent between 0.1% and 0.2% of the total cost of the IRA energy provisions. Therefore, we believe it is unlikely 30C will be a priority issue for the incoming administration. Either way, we are focused on building a business that is not reliant on federal incentives. Federal incentives include the 30C, and NEVI represent approximately 10% of our full-year 2024 gross CapEx. The next-generation charging architecture that we're co-developing with Delta Electronics that we announced in October and we've discussed in prior earnings calls is targeting at least a 30% reduction in gross CapEx per stall. Finally, the EV market in the U.S. is at a tipping point, moving from early adopters to the mass market, driven by the introduction of more affordable vehicles.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Therefore, any reduction in the size or availability of EV incentives for new or used buyers is likely mitigated by the fact that the EVs themselves are becoming more affordable. As you all know, after more than a year of joint effort, we were thrilled to have announced last month a conditional commitment for a loan guarantee of up to $1.05 billion from the U.S. Department of Energy Loan Programs Office under their Title 17 Clean Energy Financing Program. If finalized, this low-cost financing will enable EVgo to accelerate our fast-charging stall deployment across the United States, bringing critical public charging infrastructure to more EV drivers. Specifically, drivers living in multifamily housing and others who rely on public charging stand to benefit the most from this build-out, which in turn should accelerate the adoption of electric vehicles and reduce emissions from transportation.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

We expect to build approximately 7,500 high-power charging stalls across 30 states over the next five years, which translates to an average of 1,500 stalls per year, although it will take a little time to get to that run rate. By the end of the five-year period, we will be more than double our current rate of stall growth with the DOE loan. Over 40% of these new stalls are expected to be in marginalized areas that have been overburdened by environmental impacts, aligned with the administration's Justice40 Initiative. Given that over 50% of the stalls we're deploying in 2024 are in rural or low-income communities eligible for 30C funding, I expect no change in the unit economics and growth in daily throughput per stall we've previously shared, other than benefiting from even larger scale.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Following receiving this conditional commitment, we're now focused on fulfilling the conditions necessary to close the loan. We do not expect a lengthy process to close the loan. As we've said before, the company will not need to raise public equity. Additionally, this loan is not financing a single large mega site that may have lengthy environmental or permitting issues. A potential accelerated build-out bolstered by DOE financing would allow us to increase our current $200 million Adjusted EBITDA target in three to five years because of a much higher growth rate and increased leverage of fixed costs over a higher number of stalls. We anticipate hosting a webinar update if we're successful in closing the loan, where I envision EVgo sharing further details about the loan, an updated build schedule, unit economics, and a long-term profitability target.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

This is a major strategic milestone towards our goal of providing the company with ongoing financing that eventually will more than double our annual rate of stall growth, does not dilute existing shareholders, and lowers our cost of capital. Let's look at some key operating highlights from this past quarter. The business model of owning and operating a DC fast-charging network is proving to be the leader in the charging industry. Our results speak for themselves. We achieved another record quarter of revenues of $68 million in throughput for the energy dispensed in our network, more than doubled year over year for the seventh consecutive quarter. There is a clear path to profitability in achieving our goal of adjusted EBITDA break-even in 2025. Charging network revenue nearly doubled. We grew operational stalls by 34%, and we're on track to add over 800 new owned and operated stalls this year.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

And we opened an EVgo station in our 40th state. Customer accounts increased nearly 60%, and we now have over 1.2 million EVgo customer accounts. Adjusted EBITDA loss improved, demonstrated in the operating leverage and gross margin and adjusted G&A. Given our strong financial and operational performance and continued strength in our charging network revenues, we are raising the midpoint of guidance for both revenue and adjusted EBITDA for 2024. There are many exciting new EV models for drivers to choose from in the U.S., including the Chevy Blazer EV and the Chevy Silverado EV. And sales of non-Tesla EVs continue to outpace Tesla sales in the quarter, while both segments grew compared to the prior year. Non-Tesla sales were up 18% year over year and make up the majority of throughput on EVgo's network today.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Uber recently shared that drivers on its network in the U.S., Canada, and Europe are adopting EVs five times faster than the average driver. And Uber Green, their electric and hybrid ride option, is available in over 200 cities globally. Our partnerships with rideshare companies are really important because when rideshare drivers switch to electric, they're going to be charging at DCFC stations to get back on the road as quickly as possible. The growth in new vehicle sales drives ever higher electric vehicles on the road, with a growth rate that has and will continue to exceed the growth in supply of DC fast charging, benefiting owner-operators of DC fast charging networks like EVgo. In 2020, there was one public fast-charging stall for roughly every 60 EVs in operation.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

As the growth in EV VIO has exceeded the growth in the public fast-charging network, this ratio was just under 90 at the end of last year and expected to grow to nearly 180 EVs to DC fast-charging stalls by 2030. This assumes the build-out of over 135,000 stalls over the next six years, which itself seems aggressive given the current pace of deployments from all charging providers would have to triple to reach the 2030 estimates. Compared to other countries where EV adoption is further in the maturity curve, you see much lower ratios. Globally, the average is 30, and China was 17 at the end of 2023.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Even if you did believe the charging sector was able to triple the number of deployments over the rest of the decade, you'd need to see the forecast for EV VIO to be around 40% lower than the 32 million number before the ratio falls below where we are today. And if the charging industry were unable to grow the pace of deployments at all, VIO in 2030 would need to be around only nine million vehicles before the ratio is less than today, which implies about a 40% reduction in the absolute annual growth of EVs than we are currently experiencing. In other words, if the charging industry continues to build at the pace it is today, the annual growth in EV VIO would have to be less than 40% of what it currently is before we face any pressure on utilization levels we're seeing today.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

We are clearly already seeing the benefit of this supply-demand dynamic through rising utilization rates on our owned and operated network, and that trend is set to continue for the foreseeable future in practically any conceivable scenario. Rideshare electrification, more affordable vehicles attracting more customers without at-home charging and thus reliant on public charging, autonomous vehicles, and cable standardization that we've discussed at length in the past are trends that benefit owner-operator networks on top of this core supply-demand imbalance. Let's now turn to progress on our four key priorities in 2024: improving the customer experience, operating in CapEx efficiencies, capturing and retaining high-value customers, and securing financing to get to free cash flow break-even. As always, improving the customer experience remains our number one priority, and we have great news to report this quarter.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Customers want a charger to be available when they pull up to an EVgo station, and we are deploying larger sites where our standard configuration is now six to eight stalls per site. At the end of Q3, 18% of our sites have six stalls or more. With our deployments during the Q3, 45% of EVgo stalls are our high-power 350 kilowatt chargers compared to 29% a year ago. Autocharge+ continues to gain traction. 21% of our sessions are initiated by the seamless plug-and-charge experience. In September, we began auto-enrollment with all OEMs that have Autocharge+ enabled, and by further simplifying the sign-up process, we are seeing great momentum with our customers. Our customer success metric, or One & Done, increased five percentage points this quarter versus last year, with 95% of sessions resulting in a successful charge on the first try.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

In September, we announced that we had agreed to another amendment to our long-standing partnership with GM to build what we're calling Flagship Sites, a take the customer experience to the next level. These sites will feature up to 20 or more stalls and many of the amenities today's EV drivers want: fast, convenient, reliable stalls with our 350-kilowatt chargers, pull-through access, canopies, lighting, and security cameras. Flagship sites are planned in metro areas coast to coast in states such as Arizona, California, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, New York, and Texas. Like other EVgo stations, Flagship sites will be near a diverse set of amenities, creating critical charging hubs to serve the expanding number of EVs on the roads. This amendment reflects both of our companies' focus on enhancing the customer experience as well as our commitment to our partnership with each other.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

We've also made great progress on driving efficiencies, both in the short term and long term, this quarter. I've previously spoken about the next generation of charging equipment that EVgo is planning. In early October, we announced we signed a memorandum of understanding with Delta Electronics to co-develop state-of-the-art 400-kilowatt fast chargers, bringing together EVgo's extensive understanding of customer pain points from serving over 1 million customers, with Delta's global leadership in power electronics. This new charging architecture is focused on improving the customer experience while also reducing CapEx by approximately 30%. We expect to deploy this architecture in the second half of 2026. For our current charging equipment, we've delivered a 6% improvement in gross CapEx for our 2024 builds compared to the original $160,000 we estimated at the beginning of the year.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

The first sites built with our prefabricated skids are operational and yield savings in build costs and construction timelines. We expect around 40% of our 2025 deployments will utilize prefabricated skids. On operating expenses, we've reduced our sustaining G&A per stall by 15% year to date. We also continue to make great progress on our growth priority. 56% of EVgo's throughput is coming from rideshare, OEM charging credit, and subscription accounts in Q3. This provides EVgo with a relatively predictable base load level of demand on our network. New customer accounts in the Q3 totaled over 147,000, a record number, and grew 39% compared to the Q3 of last year. We're driving customer acquisition through a variety of paid and organic channels, which is turbocharging our growth in retail throughput.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Our dynamic pricing pilot that I've talked about in prior calls has now been rolled out to 20% of our network. We'll continue to iterate on our pricing models in the future as we gain insights into driver behavior and incentives. On financing, as previously mentioned, EVgo announced we received a conditional commitment from the DOE LPO for a loan guarantee of up to $1.05 billion to build approximately 7,500 stalls over five years. We are working closely with the DOE, and if approved, we expect to be able to share further details on the loan after loan closing. EVgo completed the sale of our 30C income tax credits for our 2023 vintage stalls in the Q3. We believe we were one of the few companies able to transact before the tax filing deadline. Gross proceeds from the sale were $11 million.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Finally, we continue to evaluate additional non-dilutive financing opportunities that would help fund our growth further beyond the potential DOE loan. I'd like to now introduce you to Paul Dobson, EVgo's CFO, and Paul will cover our strong financial performance in the Q3 and outlook for the remainder of 2024.

[Paul Dobson, CFO at EVgo]

Thank you, Badar. EVgo continues its strong momentum and delivered yet another solid quarter, exhibiting the eighth sequential quarter of double-digit charging revenue growth and the seventh consecutive quarter of triple-digit year-over-year throughput growth. Revenue in the Q3 was $67.5 million, which represents a 92% year-over-year increase. This growth was primarily driven by increased charging network and expanded revenues. Total charging network revenues of $43.1 million grew from $21.8 million in the Q3 of 2023, exhibiting a 98% year-over-year increase, with retail, commercial, and OEM charging revenue each individually at least doubling over the prior year period.

[Paul Dobson, CFO at EVgo]

eXtend revenues of $21.9 million increased from $10.5 million in the prior year, delivering growth of 109%. We added 270 new operational stalls in Q3, including eXtend, a record number of stalls added in the quarter for EVgo. Total stalls in operation were approximately 3,680 at the end of September 2024, including 290 EVgo eXtend stalls, increasing 34% from the end of September 2023. During the Q3 of 2024, EVgo added over 147,000 new customer accounts. EVgo ended the quarter with more than 1.2 million customer accounts, an impressive 57% increase versus the end of September 2023. During the Q3 of 2024, network throughput more than doubled from last year to 78 gigawatt-hours.

[Paul Dobson, CFO at EVgo]

EVgo's network throughput growth continues to outpace EV VIO growth, and as Badar mentioned earlier, with EV VIO expected to increase faster than the supply of DC fast chargers, we anticipate demand and utilization on the EVgo network will continue to increase. In the Q3, network utilization increased to 22%, up from 14% a year ago. Unpacking this a bit more, 59% of our stalls had utilization greater than 15%, 47% of our stalls had utilization greater than 20%, and 28% of our stalls had utilization greater than 30%. One of the key drivers of the unit economics we previously illustrated is the average daily throughput per stall, which measures how much electricity each charger is dispensing and is calculated by taking the time-based utilization percentage times the charge rate times 24 hours.

[Paul Dobson, CFO at EVgo]

Average daily throughput per stall was 254 kilowatt-hours per day, an increase of 64% when compared to Q3 2023. Performance of the entire network is moving to the right. In the top 15%, average daily throughput per stall is now 582 kilowatt-hours per day, demonstrating that our target of 450 kilowatt-hours in three to five years is achievable. The profitability that our core owned and operated network delivers is improving, which is demonstrated through the growth of our charging network margin. EVgo continues to make strides in improving the profitability of our owned and operated charging network through efficiencies and leverage. In Q3, our charging network margin was 32.9%, improving from 28.6% in Q3 2023. As a reminder, there is seasonality in our charging network margin as summer electricity tariffs are higher than winter tariffs.

[Paul Dobson, CFO at EVgo]

As I mentioned earlier, revenue grew 92% in the Q3 of 2024 to a record $67.5 million. Adjusted gross profit was $18 million in the Q3 of 2024, up from $9.3 million in the Q3 of 2023. Adjusted gross margin was 26.6% in the Q3 of 2024, an increase of 20 basis points compared to the Q3 of last year. Adjusted G&A as a percentage of revenue also improved from 67.1% in the Q3 of 2023 to 39.8% in Q3 of this year, demonstrating the operating leverage effect. Adjusted EBITDA was negative $8.9 million in the Q3 of 2024, a $5.4 million improvement versus negative $14.2 million in the Q3 of 2023. Cash, cash equivalents, and restricted cash was $153.4 million as of September 30, 2024.

[Paul Dobson, CFO at EVgo]

We generated cash from operations of $12.1 million in the Q3 of 2024, which is the second consecutive quarter that we generated positive cash from operations. This is due primarily to the net cash received from the sale of 30C income tax credits combined with the timing of other working capital changes. Capital expenditures were $25.8 million in the Q3 of 2024. Capital expenditures net of capital offsets was $5.2 million in Q3 of 2024. We received $10 million in net proceeds from the sale of our 30C income tax credits for 2023 vintage stalls in the quarter. Given the timing, we estimate an additional $1 million in transaction costs associated with the sale will be recognized in the Q4.

[Paul Dobson, CFO at EVgo]

Now turning to our 2024 guidance, EVgo is increasing the midpoint of our 2024 revenue guidance by $2.5 million due to continued strength in our charging network revenues, and we expect full year 2024 revenue to be in the range of $250 million-$265 million. We expect to see quarterly seasonal growth in charging network revenue in the Q4. eXtend revenue, which is currently primarily comprised of construction revenue, is expected to decrease in the Q4 compared to the Q3 due to timing of construction projects. We are increasing the midpoint of our 2024 Adjusted EBITDA guidance by $4 million, and we expect full year 2024 Adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of negative $38 million to $32 million. The increase in our Adjusted EBITDA midpoint reflects continued improvements in charging network gross margins resulting from increased revenues and lower energy costs.

[Paul Dobson, CFO at EVgo]

We expect to continue to make increased investments in the joint development of our next generation architecture, as well as our financial systems to support project financing in the Q4. We expect full year capital expenditures net of capital offsets to be in the $50-$65 million range, with the main use of CapEx to add over 800 new EVgo-owned stalls this year. We normally incur CapEx in advance of the vintage or operational year. However, we made a decision to slow our 2025 vintage spend in 2024 as we await final approval of the DOE loan. As a result of our efforts over the past few years to build our growth engine, we have successfully decreased lead times between mobilization and construction completion to enable us to incur less CapEx in advance of the vintage year than we have historically done.

[Paul Dobson, CFO at EVgo]

We remain confident in our ability to accelerate our rate of stall growth as planned if we are successful in securing the DOE loan. We remain fiscally prudent and only build stalls that meet our return hurdles. We are confident as ever that EVgo is on a clear path to an important inflection point in our business, namely hitting Adjusted EBITDA break-even for the full year of 2025. This is based on the expectation that EV VIO will continue to grow and that EVgo will continue to expand its network and realize operational efficiencies. We look forward to continuing to share our progress on future goals. Operator, we can turn the call over to questions.

[Operator]

Hello, everyone. Can you hear me better now?

[Heather Davis, VP of Investor Relations at EVgo]

Yes, we can.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Yes.

[Operator]

Thank you so much. I really do apologize for that one. Again, ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. I would like to remind everyone for one question, one follow-up. Should you have a question, kindly press star followed by the number one on your touch-tone phone, and you will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. Should you wish to withdraw, kindly press star followed by the number one again. If you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. Our first question comes from the line of Bill Peterson from J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Hi, Bill. Operator, we cannot hear Bill.

[Operator]

Just give me one moment on that. Bill Peterson. Yeah, I can see here that he is unmuted. Okay. Our next question comes from the line of Bill Peterson from J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.

[Bill Peterson, Senior Equity Research Analyst at J.P. Morgan]

Hi, can you hear me okay?

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Yes, we can.

[Heather Davis, VP of Investor Relations at EVgo]

Yes, we can.

[Bill Peterson, Senior Equity Research Analyst at J.P. Morgan]

Okay. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for all the details and nice job on the quarterly execution. I have some questions on the DOE loan process to the extent that you can answer them. First, can you touch a bit on the closing conditions for the loan, how quickly you're able to satisfy them? I guess, are there any sort of "long pole in the tent"? I mean, have you satisfied or addressed all the requirements that are in your control? Is the ball on the DOE side? I mean, basically asking, if the time of the loan extends past January, how much risk do you perceive in order to finalize the loan? Thank you.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Yeah, thanks for the question. We are, I mean, as confident as ever in our ability to close a loan, as I said in the prepared remarks. We don't need to issue any equity to be able to close the loan. We don't have a complex single large site. The conditions are at this point largely within our control, and we really aren't expecting a lengthy close at all. It is DOE policy to not comment on the timing or the loan details. I guess all I can say is, as I said just now, we're not really expecting a lengthy close, and so we feel very confident about our ability to close a loan.

[Bill Peterson, Senior Equity Research Analyst at J.P. Morgan]

Okay, thanks for that. And then I have some questions on the near-term sort of growth drivers, especially in the context that you see in sort of quarter-on-quarter deceleration in the Q3, and the implied guidance also would indicate some deceleration or at least flat sort of quarter-on-quarter growth. So can you speak to the buckets contributing to the demand growth? Do we assume fairly modest charging growth on a sequential basis with eXtend being the swing factor? And then, I guess, as an early look into next year, how should we think about eXtend, including against the context if the remaining funds of the NEVI program were to go away or are reallocated?

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Yeah, I mean, we are seeing strong growth in demand. We've seen throughput growth, as we just talked about on the call, quite significantly. And in the Q4, we expect to see continued growth in throughput, actually, from Q3 to Q4. I'll maybe ask Paul if you want to share any perspectives around the range of guidance for the full year. For eXtend, we've put about 290 stalls in operation. From the material, you can see that there's about 330 stalls in construction. And with respect to 2025, we haven't provided guidance yet for when we do that for 2025. On our Q4 call, I guess what I would say is that, as I said in my credit remarks, NEVI is a program that received bipartisan support, states that elected, that voted for President-elect Trump have been significantly faster in deploying NEVI awards than other states.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

And so we don't really expect to see much of an impact, frankly, on NEVI either. Or anything you want to share in terms of.

[Paul Dobson, CFO at EVgo]

I would just add, Bill, just you saw our guidance, and we raised our guidance for both revenue and Adjusted EBITDA. So when you look at that, when we think about what risks we see as we sit here sort of mid-November for the rest of the year, clearly throughput could be a risk, but we don't see that as being a very big risk at this point. And then for Adjusted EBITDA, I think the swing factor would be energy costs, where they're going to be. But again, as we sit here mid-November, there could be some volatility, a little bit of volatility there. We've had higher summer rates in Q3. We expect that to come down in Q4, and we're starting to see that.

[Paul Dobson, CFO at EVgo]

And our other costs, our G&A costs, such as project costs, getting ready for the DOE loan, there could be a little bit of increase in our G&A costs, but still very, very well controlled. So we see the momentum that we've experienced over the last couple of quarters continuing into the Q4, and I think that's reflected in our guidance.

[Bill Peterson, Senior Equity Research Analyst at J.P. Morgan]

Thanks, Paul, on the budget. And again, nice job on the quarterly execution.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Yeah, thanks, Bill. Operator, you can go to the next question.

[Operator]

Our next question comes from the line of Andres Sheppard from Cantor Fitzgerald. Please go ahead.

[Andres Sheppard, Lead Equity Research Technology Analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald]

Hey, good morning, everyone. Can you hear me okay?

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Hi, Andres, we can hear you just fine. Yep.

[Andres Sheppard, Lead Equity Research Technology Analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald]

Oh, okay. Wonderful. Thank you so much. And I echo Bill's thoughts. Congratulations on the quarter. Lots of great progress. I wanted to maybe touch on the utilization rate continues to improve, roughly 22% on average across all stalls, which is fantastic. Again, some of them even greater than 30%. Just curious, I mean, this might be a tough question, but do we have a sense of kind of what is an industry average utilization rate across fast charging in the United States? Just trying to get a sense of how significantly better your rate is relative to maybe the industry or some well-known peers. Thank you.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Yeah, Andres, I mean, I think that it's one of the things that we, I think, have done quite a lot over the course of this year is be very transparent about a number of measures from performance through to customer experience. Obviously, this is a key performance indicator, and so I don't know if there's the same level of transparency elsewhere in the industry, and so there really isn't, that I have found, an industry-wide average that represents all DC fast operators. What I can tell you is what we've been sharing over the course of many of these earnings calls, which is that we have really invested in our site selection processes. I did share in our last quarterly call that the throughput per stall for the 2023 vintage stalls in Q2 of this year was better than 2021 vintage, better than 2022 vintage, better than 2020 vintage.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

In fact, it was 75% better than 2020 vintage. So what that's telling you is that our algorithms are getting better. We're deploying stalls in locations where we're getting better performance than where we were in the past. I think that this is an area of strength that we have relative to the '40, so other operators of DC fast charging stalls. We deploy stalls, as you know, in urban and suburban, high-density, high-traffic locations close to where drivers live, work, and run their errands. So I would expect to see that perhaps our utilization may be higher than many of our other operators in this space. And I think that.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

One last thing I'd say, Andres, is that our long-term target that you've been seeing in our year-to-economics chart is 23% in three to five years. We started the year at 19%. We're now at 22%. I think that it's clearly upon us to update that 23% number because I don't think it's going to take three to five years to get an extra 1%.

[Andres Sheppard, Lead Equity Research Technology Analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald]

Wonderful. Yeah, thanks, but that's super helpful. I appreciate all that context. I agree that maybe it is a tough number to identify for the industry-wide, but yours certainly would seem to be kind of well above the median there.

[Andres Sheppard, Lead Equity Research Technology Analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald]

Maybe as a follow-up, more of a strategy question, but I'm curious, as you're seeing some OEMs kind of transition or trying to transition into more autonomy across its vehicles, how are you thinking about that in terms of a charging strategy for it? Is that something that you potentially will look to implement in the future to try to account for these autonomous or robotaxi things of sorts? Is that something that you're kind of thinking about? And just curious, any thoughts there? Thank you.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Yeah, very much so. As I've said on prior calls, I think that autonomous vehicles, along with ride-share electrification and just more affordable vehicles, and specifically for us, cable standardization, represent very significant opportunities for growth simply because they're going to increase the share of DC fast versus L2 charging. I think that autonomous vehicles will be electric. They are electric. That are in place today. And they'll be charging in fast locations because the owners of these assets are going to be looking to maximize uptime and not waste time at a slow charging location. We do have, Andres, we do have autonomous vehicle clients where we're building dedicated hubs for much larger hubs for AV clients.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

I expect over the course of the next year or so, I expect we'll talk more about that type of business that we're doing, especially since I think it's set to continue to grow even faster than it has done so far.

[Andres Sheppard, Lead Equity Research Technology Analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald]

Wonderful. Very helpful again. Thank you so much, and congrats on the quarter. I'll pass it on.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Thanks, Andres.

[Operator]

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Craig Irwin from Roth Capital. Please go ahead.

[Craig Irwin, Managing Directior and Senior Analyst at Roth Capital]

Hi, good morning, and thanks. Hi, Heather. Good morning, everyone.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Good morning.

[Craig Irwin, Managing Directior and Senior Analyst at Roth Capital]

My first question really is about the opportunity with Tesla, right? So nobody can argue your growth metrics are impressive if we choose throughputs or sales or utilization. Everything's going in the right direction. But in the longer term, right, you're growing more than twice the rate of the rate of EV sales right now. And the opportunity to serve the Tesla fleet is something that potentially unlocks a much longer runway for this impressive outsized growth versus the overall growth of sort of absolute units in the EV market. Can you maybe unpack for us the non-Tesla sales in the quarter? Was there anything constraining that? I assume there's the NACS connectors is a large part of it, but what do you see as the potential opportunity there to serve Tesla customers, particularly in areas of the country that are congested?

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Craig, I think that it's a great question. When Tesla worked with other OEMs to ultimately standardize the cable and the port in all vehicles, we had a lot of questions around how that might impact our business. Of course, many months after, many, many months after that, we're seeing tremendous growth in our own throughput. Where I expect to see, to your question, even more growth is the ability for our network to serve Tesla vehicles. A very small proportion of our network throughput today are Tesla drivers charging in our network. Once we have the NACS connector, the J3400 standard, finalized, completed, properly tested, which we're hoping for the end of the year, but of course, we're going to make sure that the testing is done properly, and then we start rolling it out across our network for new stalls and for retrofit.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

I expect to be able to attract roughly 60% of EV VIO that is not primarily charging in our network to start charging in our network, and that's because, as I said on prior calls, our network is more of an urban network. It's closer to where people live, work, they run their errands versus a highway network, which is a large part of what Tesla is. I think we've demonstrated our ability to attract customers. Our growth of new customers was 38%-39% versus last year, whereas the growth of new Tesla sales was only 18% year over year, so one of our priorities this year has been building this growth muscle where we've got the right talent and we've got the right people to be able to target and get specific customers onto drivers onto our network as customers.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

So we've proven that, and I'm confident that over the course of the next couple of years, we'll be able to target Tesla drivers who aren't using our network once that cable has become standardized.

[Craig Irwin, Managing Directior and Senior Analyst at Roth Capital]

Understood. That makes complete sense. So my second question is about the expense burden necessary to serve the expanded opportunity with your DOE funding. You have added some senior executives and obviously selected employees in the last year, some of them pretty high-profile industry executives. Would you expect to need to add much in the way of executives or employees to increase the execution capacity to serve the DOE-funded opportunity? Or is this something where we can expect pretty significant leverage to the existing infrastructure that you've put together?

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Yeah, we have, I think that we've got huge upside in terms of our ability to leverage the infrastructure and the team that we have in place. In the near term for 2025, we are very focused on meeting the commitments that we've been saying to the market around EVgo EBITDA break-even, so we will. We're very focused on that. I don't think that we'll be expanding the build schedule that much in 2025. Over the course of five years with the DOE loan, we'll be looking to add 7,500 stalls, so while that's an average of 1,500, it'll be a much lower number in 2025, and it'll build over the course of those five years a significantly higher number by the fifth year.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

So like with everything here, Craig, we're going to be very prudent around how we grow the business, making sure that we're delivering on all the expectations and the commitments that we've made. We have added a lot of very good, very excellent talent to the team at all levels, at executive levels, the engineering teams. And we expect to leverage that as we grow the business.

[Craig Irwin, Managing Directior and Senior Analyst at Roth Capital]

Thanks for taking my questions.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Yep.

[Operator]

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Chris Dendrinos from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

[Chris Dendrinos, VP of Equity Research at RBC Capital Markets]

Hi, yeah, good morning, and congratulations on a really solid quarter. I guess maybe starting out here, just on the DOE, and you mentioned some potential alternative funding options that you're evaluating. Can you just, I guess, walk us through the strategy there? And is that more of an insurance policy, call it, in the event that a Republican administration looks to repeal that loan? Or is this in addition to support, build out that maybe doesn't qualify or falls outside the DOE stipulations? Thanks.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Yeah. Hi, Chris. Look, we've been talking about pursuing non-dilutive sources of financing for the better part of the year. And I think the more that we've been transparent about both our performance and unit economics over the course of this year, the conversations have grown, and there's sort of more interest on the other side of the table. I think it's fair to say that at the beginning of the year, as we were looking at these non-dilutive financing options, they were as alternatives to what we may or may not get from the U.S. government. I think at this point, we're really looking at these as options to expand our financing on top of the loan that we're hoping to close with the DOE to finance stalls that might not otherwise be covered by the Department of Energy.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

And I think, again, as I said before, I think the transparency that we've had with our unit economics has resulted in some very productive conversations. But our priority at this point, Chris, is to get the DOE loan closed. That's our number one priority here in terms of financing, which, as I said in response to Bill's question, we're not expecting a lengthy close. These issues are at this point now largely within our control.

[Chris Dendrinos, VP of Equity Research at RBC Capital Markets]

Got it. Thanks. And I guess maybe shifting gears here, just on the Delta Electronics partnership, and you mentioned you're targeting a 30% improvement in CAPEX per stall maybe beginning the second half of 2026. Can you provide a bit more detail on sort of what specifically you are, I guess, targeting for that design that allows for that level of CAPEX improvement? Thanks.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Yeah. Chris, again, this is just another one of the areas where we're just executing what we've been saying all year. Where all year, I've been talking about this effort, which, and again, it's an effort that we have been resourcing for a good part of the year at this point. The MOU with Delta Electronics is just the next step in that journey. And the next step after that, actually, will be having our first prototype within the next year. But in terms of specifically what we're doing with this effort is bringing together our experience of serving over a million customers, our understanding of their pain points together with a global power electronics leader who, in our space, because of the lack of vertical integration, almost none of the hardware suppliers actually have that real-world customer experience.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

So we're putting those two things together to jointly design, so they will build, but jointly design a new site, new layout, different power sharing configuration, different dispenser design that takes into account both the best customer experience and the lowest cost. And I expect to see savings in terms of the equipment, in terms of the construction. One of the things that is important in this process is continuing with prefabricated skids, of which we're expecting now 40% of our deployments next year to be benefiting from, which saves on both timeline and construction expense. So it's a whole host of these things. We've been estimating 30% CapEx savings on a per-stall basis. I've been talking about that all year, and that's what we expect today still.

[Chris Dendrinos, VP of Equity Research at RBC Capital Markets]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Yep.

[Operator]

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Chris Pierce from Needham. Please go ahead.

[Chris Pierce, Senior Analyst at Needham]

Hey, good morning, everyone.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Hi, Chris.

[Chris Pierce, Senior Analyst at Needham]

I just wanted to get a sense of, when we talk about high utilization sites and we talk about rideshare drivers, then we talk about the DOE loan and the sites that you're going to build in and the sites that you are building in now, which are a little more lower-income areas where there's less EV penetration. What's the right way to think about these two coming together? Is it that you expect the high utilization sites to keep growing and that'll be able to support early utilization in the newer sites that you launch? Or do I have that wrong and EV penetration in your mind will drive higher penetration sooner at these potentially less juicy sites? I just want to make sure I have the pieces right in my head as to start with how you think about it.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Yeah. Chris, look, the sites that we'll be building with the DOE loan are sites that meet the administration's Justice40 Initiative, which are areas that are overburdened by the environmental impacts, but overburdened with environmental impacts, negative environmental impacts. Today, we are 40% of over 50% of the stalls that we're building today are in rural and low-income communities, and they're eligible for 30C funding. There's actually quite a lot of overlap, significant overlap between those two things. And so we're really not expecting any difference, any material difference at all in terms of what we're building today and what we will continue to build as a result of the DOE loan. In fact, I expect no change in our unit economics. I expect the improvements that we've been talking about to continue. We do need to update the long-term utilization number.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

As I said just earlier, 23% doesn't seem to make any sense anymore given that we're at 22% today on utilization. What I do expect to see is even more leverage on the fixed costs, both within gross margin and SG&A, just because we're going to have a much higher stall count. And that'll be, of course, beneficial, have a beneficial impact to our unit economics. But I hope I'm answering your question. We don't really see much long-term impact.

[Chris Pierce, Senior Analyst at Needham]

Yeah. Yeah, that's very helpful. Thank you. At the high utilization sites that you have now, your highest utilization sites where you've got a larger propensity of rideshare drivers, are we in the sixth inning, seventh inning? I mean, I know these sites are never going to get to 100% utilization, but what's the utilization? What is the outlook for utilization growth at your top-performing sites still right now?

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

You can see that our top-performing sites are growing. In terms of utilization and throughput per stall, I mean, the chart number 17 shows throughput per stall for our top 15% sites growing significantly. If you look at that same number sequentially, as opposed to year over year, you can see significant improvement. And throughput, as you know, is a product of utilization and charge rate. And so we see that progressing. I think the important thing here is we see the entire network moving to the right, which is data that we've been supplying every quarter, not just the top-performing sites.

[Chris Pierce, Senior Analyst at Needham]

Okay. Perfect. Thanks for the time.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Yeah.

[Operator]

Thank you. Again, should you have a question, please press star followed by the number one. Our next question comes from the line of William Grippin from UBS. Please go ahead.

[William Grippin, Director and Equity Research Analyst at UBS]

Good morning. Thank you for the time. Hi there.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Good morning.

[William Grippin, Director and Equity Research Analyst at UBS]

Just was wondering if you could elaborate first on your expectations for 30C monetization going forward now that you've done this 2023 deal. Should we expect these to be maybe more regular semi-annual, or are you still planning on just annual monetization going forward?

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Yeah, we're looking at that. We obviously had our first monetization this year for the tax filing deadline. We're looking at the right strategy that allows us to maximize the monetization for the company. Broadly, kind of just taking a step back from that, we're expecting to see continued monetization at or around the levels that we've been getting that we received for the first deal that we did this year, so for the 2024 portfolio in 2025. Whether it's one sale or two sales, we're looking at the right strategy that maximizes the return for us.

[William Grippin, Director and Equity Research Analyst at UBS]

Makes sense, and just going back to one of your comments in the prepared remarks. I think you had said 56% of throughput came from rideshare and OEM subscription. Are you able to bifurcate that more granularly between rideshare and OEM, and then within the subscriptions, are you seeing growth in partnerships or expansion of programs there?

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Yeah. So you can actually look at, I think we disclose our revenue for commercial specifically, which is largely rideshare, and that's about 24% in terms of input. I'm sorry, I should say, sorry, not revenue. And so that whole group of 56% is both three rideshare subscription customers and customers on the OEM charging credits. It's been in that 50% to mid-50s% for the last two or three quarters now, I think. Well, you can go back to our earnings materials. It's a slide in the chart. And so we like that load because it's high frequency. It's what I would call our most predictable, steady. I'm an energy guy, so I see it as base load demand. And I think it's great for underwriting our business.

[William Grippin, Director and Equity Research Analyst at UBS]

Got it. Appreciate the color. Thanks very much.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Yep.

[Operator]

Thank you. That concludes our Q&A session for today. I'd now like to turn the call over back to Badar Khan for final closing comments.

[Badar Khan, CEO at EVgo]

Great. Well, thank you, everyone. We've had yet another record quarter, and we've raised the midpoint of our guidance again and are clearly on the path to Adjusted EBITDA breakeven next year. We continue to benefit from just a whole bunch of tailwinds that are benefiting our operators. And with EVgo's scale over the dozens of smaller operators, I think hopefully you're seeing that we're really starting to cement our competitive advantage, especially in terms of delivering a best-in-class customer experience. We remain as confident as ever closing the DOE loan, which will accelerate our growth. And if and when we close the loan, we will host a webinar to provide you with more details. So then, thanks very much.

[Operator]

Thank you. That concludes our conference call for today. You may now disconnect.

Participants

Executives

• Heather Davis, VP of Investor Relations
• Badar Khan, CEO
• Paul Dobson, CFO

Analysts

• Bill Peterson, Senior Equity Research Analyst at J.P. Morgan
• Andres Sheppard, Lead Equity Research Technology Analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald
• Craig Irwin, Managing Directior and Senior Analyst at Roth Capital
• Chris Dendrinos, VP of Equity Research at RBC Capital Markets
• Chris Pierce, Senior Analyst at Needham
• William Grippin, Director and Equity Research Analyst at UBS