NASDAQ:HOFT Hooker Furnishings Q3 2025 Earnings Report $13.14 +0.03 (+0.23%) Closing price 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$13.14 -0.01 (-0.04%) As of 04:10 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Hooker Furnishings EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.20Consensus EPS $0.02Beat/MissMissed by -$0.22One Year Ago EPSN/AHooker Furnishings Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AHooker Furnishings Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2025Date12/5/2024TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateThursday, December 5, 2024Conference Call Time9:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsHooker Furnishings' Q3 2027 earnings is estimated for Thursday, December 10, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled at 9:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Hooker Furnishings Q3 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrDecember 5, 2024ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Q3 consolidated net sales fell 10.7% year-over-year, resulting in a $7.3 million operating loss and $4.1 million net loss due to low demand, restructuring charges, bad debt and impairments. Management reported sequential improvement in core business profitability and expects full benefits of a $10 million cost savings plan to be realized beginning in Q4. Hooker built up branded inventory by 40% quarter-over-quarter, focusing on high-quality, best-selling SKUs to accelerate speed to market for the current season and fiscal 2026. The new global licensing agreement with Margaritaville is expected to broaden addressable markets across multiple divisions, including hospitality and contract furniture. Executives cited cooling inflation, recent interest rate cuts and an improving housing market as key macro tailwinds likely to boost home furnishings demand in 2025. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallHooker Furnishings Q3 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to Hooker Furnishings Corporation's third quarter 2024 earnings webcast. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one, one on your telephone. You will then hear an automatic message advising your hand is raised. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I will now hand the conference over to speaker host today, Paul Huckfeldt, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead, sir. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:00:34Thank you, Livia. Good morning and welcome to our quarterly conference call to review our financial results for the fiscal 2025 third quarter, which began July 29th and ended October 27th, 2024. Joining me this morning is Jeremy Hoff, our Chief Executive Officer. We appreciate your participation today. During our call, we may make forward-looking statements which are subject to risks and uncertainties. The discussion of factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from management's expectations is contained in our press release and SEC filing announcing our fiscal 2025 third quarter results. Any forward-looking statement speaks only as of today, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statement to reflect events or circumstances after today's call. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:01:21Our fiscal 2025 third quarter and nine-month results were adversely affected by the ongoing low demand in the Home Furnishings industry, as well as charges totaling about $7.5 million, including approximately $3.1 million of restructuring costs related to the company's previously announced cost savings plan, $2.4 million of bad debt expense related to the bankruptcy of a single large customer, and $2 million of non-cash impairment charges to certain trade names under the Home Meridian segment. These factors resulted in an operating loss of $7.3 million and a consolidated net loss of $4.1 million, or $0.39 per diluted share for the third quarter. Consolidated net sales were $104 million, a decrease of $12.5 million, or 10.7% compared to the same quarter of the previous year. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:02:15For the nine-month period, consolidated net sales were $293 million, a decrease of $43 million, or 12.9% compared to the same period of the previous year. This decrease was also due to low demand affecting the Home Furnishings industry and the absence of $11 million of liquidation sales from the unprofitable ACH product line which the company exited last year. The company reported a consolidated operating loss of $15 million and a net loss of $10.2 million, or $0.97 per diluted share, attributed to lower overall sales, higher ocean freight costs at Hooker Branded, under-absorbed indirect costs at Domestic Upholstery, as well as the $7.5 million in charges mentioned earlier. Now I'll turn the call over to Jeremy to comment on our fiscal 2025 third quarter results. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:03:06Thank you, Paul, and good morning, everyone. Despite sustained macroeconomic challenges and the charges recorded in Q3, we are encouraged by the sequential quarterly improvement in our core business profitability and by the results of our cost reduction efforts, which will be more fully realized beginning fourth quarter. These improvements reflect our team's focus in managing controllables, in reducing non-strategic costs in a difficult environment, while investing in impactful initiatives to expand our addressable market and growth opportunities, including our recently announced global licensing agreement with Margaritaville. We're also encouraged by positive developments in the macroeconomic environment, such as cooling inflation and recent interest rate cuts in September and November, which should begin to increase demand for furnishings. Our October High Point Market introductions were positively received, with significant placements across the board. In addition, we had the best retail placement market to date at outdoor furniture specialist Sunset West. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:04:06The early feedback of three major case goods collections for Hooker Branded gave us the confidence to place initial cuttings early before these groups were officially introduced in October. As a result, the collections will ship this month, with a second cutting in January, increasing our speed to market by six months. This puts us in a strong position for the coming fiscal year with our available product assortment. In anticipation of increased demand and the typically stronger fall selling season, we built up Hooker Branded inventory by $11 million, or 40% compared to previous quarter end. In addition, we are aggressively producing our top collections to ensure we will be in stock during the first quarter of fiscal 2026. These inventories are high-quality assortments centered on our best-selling and most profitable SKUs. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:04:53Now I want to turn the discussion over to Paul, who will discuss highlights in each of our segments. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:04:58Thanks, Jeremy. Beginning with Hooker Branded, net sales decreased by $4 million, or 10.7% in the fiscal third quarter compared to the prior year period, due primarily to lower average selling prices. While gross revenue in the segment decreased by 6.7% compared to the previous year's third quarter, discounts increased by 390 basis points due mainly to higher discounting on excess inventory. Unit volume decreased by a modest 2.1% compared to the previous year's third quarter, but exceeded the first and second quarters of this fiscal year. For the quarter, the segment reported an operating loss of $1.7 million on historically low third quarter net sales. This result included approximately $1 million of severance charges related to our cost reduction plan. Incoming orders decreased by 13% year-over-year. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:05:55The quarter-end backlog was 30% lower than at the end of the prior year's third quarter, but remained 18% higher than pre-pandemic levels, which were at the end of fiscal 2020 third quarter. For the nine-month period, net sales decreased by $14 million, or 11.7%, also due primarily to lower average selling prices resulting from the price reductions implemented in the previous year in response to reduced ocean freight costs. Unit volume was essentially flat, decreasing by about 1% compared to the prior year nine-month period. Turning to the Home Meridian segment, net sales decreased by $5.1 million, or 11.8% in the third quarter compared to the prior year third quarter due to reduced unit volume. Over 40% of the sales decrease was attributable to the loss of a major customer following its bankruptcy. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:06:48Sales through major furniture chains and independent furniture stores decreased, though these decreases were partially offset by an 8% increase in sales in our hospitality business, marking two consecutive quarters of higher revenues. Incoming orders increased by 8% compared to the previous year's third quarter, while decreasing modestly by 2.9% for the nine-month period, despite the absence of orders from the discontinued ACH product line and the large customer bankruptcy. Quarter-end backlog was 32% higher than the prior year's third quarter backlog. Despite decreased net sales, Home Meridian achieved a gross margin of 20.5%, its highest level since the acquisition in 2016. The restructuring efforts at Home Meridian over the recent years have shown meaningful results towards creating sustainable profitability, including significantly reduced allowances, improved product margins, and lower fixed costs across nearly all of this segment. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:07:52For the quarter, the segment reported an operating loss of $3.7 million, driven by $2.4 million in bad debt charges due to the previously mentioned customer bankruptcy, $2 million in non-cash intangible asset impairment charges, and $233,000 of severance costs related to the cost reduction plan. For the nine-month period, net sales decreased by $19 million, or 16%, in large part due to the absence of $11 million in ACH liquidation sales, which accounted for approximately 60% of the sales decrease and 75% of the unit volume decrease. Sales decreased in nearly all channels during the period, except for the hospitality business, which experienced a 23% increase. Lastly, the Domestic Upholstery segment net sales decreased by $3.2 million, or 10%, compared to the prior year third quarter due to decreased sales at Shenandoah, Bradington-Young, and HF Custom, attributable to the persistent low demand. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:08:55This decrease was partially offset by a 9% increase in sales at Sunset West, which has delivered year-over-year quarterly sales growth for three consecutive quarters this fiscal year. Gross profit decreased due to lower net sales, but the gross margin remained stable. For the quarter, the segment reported an operating loss of $281,000, a sequential improvement compared to the $1.3 million in operating losses recorded in each of the fiscal 2025 first and second quarters. This result also included approximately $560,000 of severance costs related to the cost reduction plan. Incoming orders decreased by 4.8% during the quarter, and the quarter-end backlog was 30% lower than the prior year third quarter backlog. Excluding Sunset West, the order backlog remained consistent with pre-pandemic levels at the end of the fiscal 2020 third quarter. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:09:53For the nine-month period, net sales decreased by $10.6 million, or 10.8%, also due to decreased sales at Bradington-Young, Shenandoah, and HF Custom, partially offset by a 10% increase in Sunset West net sales. Turning now to cash, inventories, and capital, cash and cash equivalents were $20.4 million at the end of the third quarter, a decrease of $22.7 million from the previous year-end in January. Inventory levels increased by $4.7 million from year-end, driven primarily by a $6 million increase in Hooker Branded inventories. During the nine-month period, we used cash and cash equivalents on hand to fund $7.4 million of dividends, $2.8 million to further develop our cloud-based ERP system, and $2.7 million in capital expenditures. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:10:45In addition to our cash balance, we have an aggregate of $28.3 million available under our existing revolver at quarter end, as well as $29 million in cash surrender value of company-owned life insurance. We expect to finalize the refinancing of our credit facility and pay off our term debt in the coming days. As Jeremy mentioned, we're aggressively building inventory to support three new major case goods collections, as well as our best-selling and most profitable SKUs to accelerate speed to market and product availability for both current and next fiscal year. The inventory build is also driven by what is expected to be a longer than typical Lunar New Year holiday in Vietnam, an expected longer post-holiday ramp-up period resulting from the extended holiday, and lower production demand in Vietnam, as well as potential U.S. East Coast port strike in January 2025. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:11:41Earlier this week, we announced the payment of our regular quarterly dividend in December, which we believe demonstrates our confidence in the company's future success. Now I'll turn the conversation back to Jeremy for his outlook. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:11:54Over the last few months, the key economic indicators that impact furniture sales have been trending positively, such as interest rate cuts, which drive home mortgage rates, and cooling inflation. Additionally, in November, a leading real estate industry group stated its belief that the worst of the housing inventory shortage is ending and forecast an approximately 10% increase in home sales for 2025, with mortgage rates stabilizing around 6%. In October, year-over-year furniture store sales rose for the second month in a row. Lastly, consumer sentiment rose in November to its highest level since April, and the stock market continues near all-time highs. While the macroeconomic outlook is improving, our team has continued to focus on the controllable and improvements already underway at Hooker Furnishings. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:12:41Our balance sheet, financial condition, and management team should well equip us to navigate any remaining challenges as we focus on maximizing efficiencies with the cost reductions while simultaneously investing in expansion strategies that will position us for revenue and profitability growth when demand fully returns. This ends the formal part of our discussion, and at this time, I will turn the call back over to our operator, Livia, for questions. Operator00:13:07Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, to ask a question, you will need to press star one, one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, you may press star one, one again. Please stand by while we compile the candidate roster. Now, first question coming from the line of Anthony Lebiedzinski with Sidoti & Company. Your line is now open. Anthony, your line is open. Please check your mute button. Anthony LebiedzinskiSenior Equity Analyst at Sidoti & Company00:13:53Can you hear me now? Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:13:55Yes. Anthony LebiedzinskiSenior Equity Analyst at Sidoti & Company00:13:56Yeah, sorry about that. Yeah, I was on mute. So good morning to all of you, and yeah, thanks for taking the questions. So first, just curious, so since the election, have you guys seen any notable changes in demand from your customers? It seems like just talking to others in the industry, they talked about the election being a sort of distraction for the end consumers. So curious to get your thoughts on what you've seen so far. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:14:26Yeah, so we've noticed and we've had a noticeable positive bump in order rates since the election, for sure. Anthony LebiedzinskiSenior Equity Analyst at Sidoti & Company00:14:35That's good to hear. Certainly encouraging. And then in terms of the three new case goods collections, you talked about the speed to market, certainly driving that. How impact, I'm sorry, how impactful could that be for the fourth quarter as you look to get those products to retailers? Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:15:04It definitely gives us a better shot at some better shipments at Hooker Branded because we're going to ship first cutting in November, second cutting in January, specifically to direct container customers that will affect first. But I think the more significant part of it is the fact that we're putting those collections in position for the next fiscal year to gain the full benefit of those hitting floors for the entire year and not half of the year. Anthony LebiedzinskiSenior Equity Analyst at Sidoti & Company00:15:37All right. That makes a lot of sense. And you've done a nice job improving the gross margin at HMI. Do you think you can further improve from here? What are your thoughts there, Jeremy? Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:15:50I would say a little bit. And just to stress, most of that improvement was simply getting out of businesses we should not have been in, which obviously takes the average very positive compared to where we were when we had businesses losing money and low-margin business like the ACH business. The fact that we're out of that, it's no longer a drag on the overall average. So that's been the biggest benefit for us. But we do still think there's a little bit of room for improvement. Anthony LebiedzinskiSenior Equity Analyst at Sidoti & Company00:16:20Gotcha, and so as far as the inventory situation here, so you talked about having excess inventories. Overall, your inventory was higher at the end of the third quarter than we expected, so how would you describe your current inventory position and the quality of that inventory and any sort of goal for your inventory at the end of your fiscal year? Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:16:51I would call our inventory position the best it's been probably, Paul, in probably two years. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:16:59I think so, yeah. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:17:00And I say that not only because of the positive inventory we have on the Hooker Branded side that are some of our best SKUs, but not having the drag of something like ACH on the other side, which negatively impacts the entire inventory as well. So we really don't have the problem inventory within our system anymore like we did with the ACH. Our increase is in really good SKUs. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:17:24Yeah. I know it might sound a little inconsistent. We talked about discounting excess inventories and building inventory. And what we're doing is cleaning up the inventory, getting rid of the slow-moving stuff to free up the working capital to invest in better SKUs, in the new products, and in our best-selling SKUs. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:17:42Yeah. Anthony LebiedzinskiSenior Equity Analyst at Sidoti & Company00:17:44All right. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Okay. And then lastly for me, before I pass it on to others, so Jeremy, I know you were very upbeat about the Margaritaville launch when you announced this, I believe, in October. Can you provide any more details as to how impactful that deal could be for you guys? Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:18:03We believe it's going to be very impactful. What's interesting about the Margaritaville license from our standpoint is it really affects a lot of our divisions. It's not really just going to be a Hooker Branded thing, for example. It's going to be Hooker legacy. It's going to really affect positively, we believe, our contract divisions. There's a lot of opportunity with hospitality and through H Contract that will give us an advantage with a lot of those jobs because Margaritaville is building a significant number of homes in areas that we'll be attached to in pricing those models and whatnot. It opens a lot of doors that would not be open otherwise. Anthony LebiedzinskiSenior Equity Analyst at Sidoti & Company00:18:50Gotcha. Well, thank you very much and best of luck. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:18:53Of course. Thank you, Anthony. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:18:55Thanks, Anthony. Operator00:18:58Thank you. Now, next question coming from the line of Dave Storms with Stonegate. Your line is now open. David StormsSenior Research Analyst at Stonegate00:19:05Good morning. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:19:06Good morning. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:19:07Hey, Dave. David StormsSenior Research Analyst at Stonegate00:19:08Good morning. Just wanted to ask my first question around the macro demand environment going into this holiday season. Is there any potential to see continued discounting through the back part of this year? Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:19:24Can you repeat that, Dave? There was a little bit of static or something on the line. David StormsSenior Research Analyst at Stonegate00:19:28Apologies. Just around the macro environment and the holiday season coming up, is there any potential for continued discounting as we go into the back half of the year? Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:19:39We don't believe any more than normal. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:19:42Normal, yeah, normal promotions. E-com in particular, we tend to run some specials, but it's targeted promotions. David StormsSenior Research Analyst at Stonegate00:19:52Understood. Thank you. And then just wanted to touch on the bankruptcy. Are there any other customers that you're seeing as highly at risk, and is there any recourse to recover some of that write-off? Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:20:04Well, you probably know who that big customer is. And there's probably not a lot of recourse. We've done what we can to mitigate that loss. And that's really the only big customer that we, there's always a small customer here or there that's bankrupt. We haven't really noticed a particularly significant change in the pace of bankruptcies or distressed receivables, but that was one that, that was one that was just, it was a big customer, and we got caught. David StormsSenior Research Analyst at Stonegate00:20:40Understood. And then I did have another question around the licensing deal. I was hoping you could speak a little more around the logistics and next steps and maybe what early wins would look like. It looks like this is a decent amount of white space for you all. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:20:53Yeah. And what you're mentioning is the reason we're going to launch in October. The temptation, of course, is to move faster than that and try to launch in April. But right is going to be much more important than fast for us, and we want to get this right. So the logistics right now of everything are pulling that together. Sunset West, our outdoor company, is obviously heavily involved. All of our Domestic Upholstery is involved. Hooker Branded's involved. Contract's involved. Hospitality. So right now, the biggest thing we're working on is pulling everything together the way it needs to be pulled together in order to put our best foot forward on a launch. And that will continue until we get there. David StormsSenior Research Analyst at Stonegate00:21:41That's very helpful. And then just one last question for me, a two-parter around cost savings. Should we expect any further severance costs in 4Q? And then looking into the next year, should we expect the $10 million to be evenly spread out, or would we expect that to be more back-end weighted as those cost savings ran? Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:22:01We don't expect significant additional, at this point, anyway, we don't expect significant additional restructuring costs. We've got one more reasonably large element of our cost savings program that we still need to execute. But I would say that most of it's going to be in place for the better part of the year. We haven't started really, we haven't fully realized a lot of those savings yet, but we expect to start seeing those in the fourth quarter. And I would say that most of the $10 million will be evenly spread through next year. David StormsSenior Research Analyst at Stonegate00:22:38Understood. That's all very helpful. Apologies. That's all very helpful. Thank you for taking my questions, and good luck in the fourth quarter. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:22:48Thank you. Operator00:22:53Thank you, and I am showing no further questions in the Q&A queue at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Mr. Jeremy Hoff for any closing remarks. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:23:02I would like to thank everyone on the call for their interest in Hooker Furnishings and wish you all a happy holiday season. We look forward to sharing our fiscal '25 full-year results in April next year. Take care. Operator00:23:16Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our conference for today. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to Hooker Furnishings Corporation's third quarter 2024 earnings webcast. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one, one on your telephone. You will then hear an automatic message advising your hand is raised. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I will now hand the conference over to speaker host today, Paul Huckfeldt, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead, sir. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:00:34Thank you, Livia. Good morning and welcome to our quarterly conference call to review our financial results for the fiscal 2025 third quarter, which began July 29th and ended October 27th, 2024. Joining me this morning is Jeremy Hoff, our Chief Executive Officer. We appreciate your participation today. During our call, we may make forward-looking statements which are subject to risks and uncertainties. The discussion of factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from management's expectations is contained in our press release and SEC filing announcing our fiscal 2025 third quarter results. Any forward-looking statement speaks only as of today, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statement to reflect events or circumstances after today's call. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:01:21Our fiscal 2025 third quarter and nine-month results were adversely affected by the ongoing low demand in the Home Furnishings industry, as well as charges totaling about $7.5 million, including approximately $3.1 million of restructuring costs related to the company's previously announced cost savings plan, $2.4 million of bad debt expense related to the bankruptcy of a single large customer, and $2 million of non-cash impairment charges to certain trade names under the Home Meridian segment. These factors resulted in an operating loss of $7.3 million and a consolidated net loss of $4.1 million, or $0.39 per diluted share for the third quarter. Consolidated net sales were $104 million, a decrease of $12.5 million, or 10.7% compared to the same quarter of the previous year. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:02:15For the nine-month period, consolidated net sales were $293 million, a decrease of $43 million, or 12.9% compared to the same period of the previous year. This decrease was also due to low demand affecting the Home Furnishings industry and the absence of $11 million of liquidation sales from the unprofitable ACH product line which the company exited last year. The company reported a consolidated operating loss of $15 million and a net loss of $10.2 million, or $0.97 per diluted share, attributed to lower overall sales, higher ocean freight costs at Hooker Branded, under-absorbed indirect costs at Domestic Upholstery, as well as the $7.5 million in charges mentioned earlier. Now I'll turn the call over to Jeremy to comment on our fiscal 2025 third quarter results. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:03:06Thank you, Paul, and good morning, everyone. Despite sustained macroeconomic challenges and the charges recorded in Q3, we are encouraged by the sequential quarterly improvement in our core business profitability and by the results of our cost reduction efforts, which will be more fully realized beginning fourth quarter. These improvements reflect our team's focus in managing controllables, in reducing non-strategic costs in a difficult environment, while investing in impactful initiatives to expand our addressable market and growth opportunities, including our recently announced global licensing agreement with Margaritaville. We're also encouraged by positive developments in the macroeconomic environment, such as cooling inflation and recent interest rate cuts in September and November, which should begin to increase demand for furnishings. Our October High Point Market introductions were positively received, with significant placements across the board. In addition, we had the best retail placement market to date at outdoor furniture specialist Sunset West. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:04:06The early feedback of three major case goods collections for Hooker Branded gave us the confidence to place initial cuttings early before these groups were officially introduced in October. As a result, the collections will ship this month, with a second cutting in January, increasing our speed to market by six months. This puts us in a strong position for the coming fiscal year with our available product assortment. In anticipation of increased demand and the typically stronger fall selling season, we built up Hooker Branded inventory by $11 million, or 40% compared to previous quarter end. In addition, we are aggressively producing our top collections to ensure we will be in stock during the first quarter of fiscal 2026. These inventories are high-quality assortments centered on our best-selling and most profitable SKUs. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:04:53Now I want to turn the discussion over to Paul, who will discuss highlights in each of our segments. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:04:58Thanks, Jeremy. Beginning with Hooker Branded, net sales decreased by $4 million, or 10.7% in the fiscal third quarter compared to the prior year period, due primarily to lower average selling prices. While gross revenue in the segment decreased by 6.7% compared to the previous year's third quarter, discounts increased by 390 basis points due mainly to higher discounting on excess inventory. Unit volume decreased by a modest 2.1% compared to the previous year's third quarter, but exceeded the first and second quarters of this fiscal year. For the quarter, the segment reported an operating loss of $1.7 million on historically low third quarter net sales. This result included approximately $1 million of severance charges related to our cost reduction plan. Incoming orders decreased by 13% year-over-year. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:05:55The quarter-end backlog was 30% lower than at the end of the prior year's third quarter, but remained 18% higher than pre-pandemic levels, which were at the end of fiscal 2020 third quarter. For the nine-month period, net sales decreased by $14 million, or 11.7%, also due primarily to lower average selling prices resulting from the price reductions implemented in the previous year in response to reduced ocean freight costs. Unit volume was essentially flat, decreasing by about 1% compared to the prior year nine-month period. Turning to the Home Meridian segment, net sales decreased by $5.1 million, or 11.8% in the third quarter compared to the prior year third quarter due to reduced unit volume. Over 40% of the sales decrease was attributable to the loss of a major customer following its bankruptcy. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:06:48Sales through major furniture chains and independent furniture stores decreased, though these decreases were partially offset by an 8% increase in sales in our hospitality business, marking two consecutive quarters of higher revenues. Incoming orders increased by 8% compared to the previous year's third quarter, while decreasing modestly by 2.9% for the nine-month period, despite the absence of orders from the discontinued ACH product line and the large customer bankruptcy. Quarter-end backlog was 32% higher than the prior year's third quarter backlog. Despite decreased net sales, Home Meridian achieved a gross margin of 20.5%, its highest level since the acquisition in 2016. The restructuring efforts at Home Meridian over the recent years have shown meaningful results towards creating sustainable profitability, including significantly reduced allowances, improved product margins, and lower fixed costs across nearly all of this segment. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:07:52For the quarter, the segment reported an operating loss of $3.7 million, driven by $2.4 million in bad debt charges due to the previously mentioned customer bankruptcy, $2 million in non-cash intangible asset impairment charges, and $233,000 of severance costs related to the cost reduction plan. For the nine-month period, net sales decreased by $19 million, or 16%, in large part due to the absence of $11 million in ACH liquidation sales, which accounted for approximately 60% of the sales decrease and 75% of the unit volume decrease. Sales decreased in nearly all channels during the period, except for the hospitality business, which experienced a 23% increase. Lastly, the Domestic Upholstery segment net sales decreased by $3.2 million, or 10%, compared to the prior year third quarter due to decreased sales at Shenandoah, Bradington-Young, and HF Custom, attributable to the persistent low demand. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:08:55This decrease was partially offset by a 9% increase in sales at Sunset West, which has delivered year-over-year quarterly sales growth for three consecutive quarters this fiscal year. Gross profit decreased due to lower net sales, but the gross margin remained stable. For the quarter, the segment reported an operating loss of $281,000, a sequential improvement compared to the $1.3 million in operating losses recorded in each of the fiscal 2025 first and second quarters. This result also included approximately $560,000 of severance costs related to the cost reduction plan. Incoming orders decreased by 4.8% during the quarter, and the quarter-end backlog was 30% lower than the prior year third quarter backlog. Excluding Sunset West, the order backlog remained consistent with pre-pandemic levels at the end of the fiscal 2020 third quarter. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:09:53For the nine-month period, net sales decreased by $10.6 million, or 10.8%, also due to decreased sales at Bradington-Young, Shenandoah, and HF Custom, partially offset by a 10% increase in Sunset West net sales. Turning now to cash, inventories, and capital, cash and cash equivalents were $20.4 million at the end of the third quarter, a decrease of $22.7 million from the previous year-end in January. Inventory levels increased by $4.7 million from year-end, driven primarily by a $6 million increase in Hooker Branded inventories. During the nine-month period, we used cash and cash equivalents on hand to fund $7.4 million of dividends, $2.8 million to further develop our cloud-based ERP system, and $2.7 million in capital expenditures. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:10:45In addition to our cash balance, we have an aggregate of $28.3 million available under our existing revolver at quarter end, as well as $29 million in cash surrender value of company-owned life insurance. We expect to finalize the refinancing of our credit facility and pay off our term debt in the coming days. As Jeremy mentioned, we're aggressively building inventory to support three new major case goods collections, as well as our best-selling and most profitable SKUs to accelerate speed to market and product availability for both current and next fiscal year. The inventory build is also driven by what is expected to be a longer than typical Lunar New Year holiday in Vietnam, an expected longer post-holiday ramp-up period resulting from the extended holiday, and lower production demand in Vietnam, as well as potential U.S. East Coast port strike in January 2025. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:11:41Earlier this week, we announced the payment of our regular quarterly dividend in December, which we believe demonstrates our confidence in the company's future success. Now I'll turn the conversation back to Jeremy for his outlook. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:11:54Over the last few months, the key economic indicators that impact furniture sales have been trending positively, such as interest rate cuts, which drive home mortgage rates, and cooling inflation. Additionally, in November, a leading real estate industry group stated its belief that the worst of the housing inventory shortage is ending and forecast an approximately 10% increase in home sales for 2025, with mortgage rates stabilizing around 6%. In October, year-over-year furniture store sales rose for the second month in a row. Lastly, consumer sentiment rose in November to its highest level since April, and the stock market continues near all-time highs. While the macroeconomic outlook is improving, our team has continued to focus on the controllable and improvements already underway at Hooker Furnishings. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:12:41Our balance sheet, financial condition, and management team should well equip us to navigate any remaining challenges as we focus on maximizing efficiencies with the cost reductions while simultaneously investing in expansion strategies that will position us for revenue and profitability growth when demand fully returns. This ends the formal part of our discussion, and at this time, I will turn the call back over to our operator, Livia, for questions. Operator00:13:07Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, to ask a question, you will need to press star one, one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, you may press star one, one again. Please stand by while we compile the candidate roster. Now, first question coming from the line of Anthony Lebiedzinski with Sidoti & Company. Your line is now open. Anthony, your line is open. Please check your mute button. Anthony LebiedzinskiSenior Equity Analyst at Sidoti & Company00:13:53Can you hear me now? Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:13:55Yes. Anthony LebiedzinskiSenior Equity Analyst at Sidoti & Company00:13:56Yeah, sorry about that. Yeah, I was on mute. So good morning to all of you, and yeah, thanks for taking the questions. So first, just curious, so since the election, have you guys seen any notable changes in demand from your customers? It seems like just talking to others in the industry, they talked about the election being a sort of distraction for the end consumers. So curious to get your thoughts on what you've seen so far. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:14:26Yeah, so we've noticed and we've had a noticeable positive bump in order rates since the election, for sure. Anthony LebiedzinskiSenior Equity Analyst at Sidoti & Company00:14:35That's good to hear. Certainly encouraging. And then in terms of the three new case goods collections, you talked about the speed to market, certainly driving that. How impact, I'm sorry, how impactful could that be for the fourth quarter as you look to get those products to retailers? Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:15:04It definitely gives us a better shot at some better shipments at Hooker Branded because we're going to ship first cutting in November, second cutting in January, specifically to direct container customers that will affect first. But I think the more significant part of it is the fact that we're putting those collections in position for the next fiscal year to gain the full benefit of those hitting floors for the entire year and not half of the year. Anthony LebiedzinskiSenior Equity Analyst at Sidoti & Company00:15:37All right. That makes a lot of sense. And you've done a nice job improving the gross margin at HMI. Do you think you can further improve from here? What are your thoughts there, Jeremy? Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:15:50I would say a little bit. And just to stress, most of that improvement was simply getting out of businesses we should not have been in, which obviously takes the average very positive compared to where we were when we had businesses losing money and low-margin business like the ACH business. The fact that we're out of that, it's no longer a drag on the overall average. So that's been the biggest benefit for us. But we do still think there's a little bit of room for improvement. Anthony LebiedzinskiSenior Equity Analyst at Sidoti & Company00:16:20Gotcha, and so as far as the inventory situation here, so you talked about having excess inventories. Overall, your inventory was higher at the end of the third quarter than we expected, so how would you describe your current inventory position and the quality of that inventory and any sort of goal for your inventory at the end of your fiscal year? Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:16:51I would call our inventory position the best it's been probably, Paul, in probably two years. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:16:59I think so, yeah. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:17:00And I say that not only because of the positive inventory we have on the Hooker Branded side that are some of our best SKUs, but not having the drag of something like ACH on the other side, which negatively impacts the entire inventory as well. So we really don't have the problem inventory within our system anymore like we did with the ACH. Our increase is in really good SKUs. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:17:24Yeah. I know it might sound a little inconsistent. We talked about discounting excess inventories and building inventory. And what we're doing is cleaning up the inventory, getting rid of the slow-moving stuff to free up the working capital to invest in better SKUs, in the new products, and in our best-selling SKUs. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:17:42Yeah. Anthony LebiedzinskiSenior Equity Analyst at Sidoti & Company00:17:44All right. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Okay. And then lastly for me, before I pass it on to others, so Jeremy, I know you were very upbeat about the Margaritaville launch when you announced this, I believe, in October. Can you provide any more details as to how impactful that deal could be for you guys? Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:18:03We believe it's going to be very impactful. What's interesting about the Margaritaville license from our standpoint is it really affects a lot of our divisions. It's not really just going to be a Hooker Branded thing, for example. It's going to be Hooker legacy. It's going to really affect positively, we believe, our contract divisions. There's a lot of opportunity with hospitality and through H Contract that will give us an advantage with a lot of those jobs because Margaritaville is building a significant number of homes in areas that we'll be attached to in pricing those models and whatnot. It opens a lot of doors that would not be open otherwise. Anthony LebiedzinskiSenior Equity Analyst at Sidoti & Company00:18:50Gotcha. Well, thank you very much and best of luck. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:18:53Of course. Thank you, Anthony. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:18:55Thanks, Anthony. Operator00:18:58Thank you. Now, next question coming from the line of Dave Storms with Stonegate. Your line is now open. David StormsSenior Research Analyst at Stonegate00:19:05Good morning. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:19:06Good morning. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:19:07Hey, Dave. David StormsSenior Research Analyst at Stonegate00:19:08Good morning. Just wanted to ask my first question around the macro demand environment going into this holiday season. Is there any potential to see continued discounting through the back part of this year? Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:19:24Can you repeat that, Dave? There was a little bit of static or something on the line. David StormsSenior Research Analyst at Stonegate00:19:28Apologies. Just around the macro environment and the holiday season coming up, is there any potential for continued discounting as we go into the back half of the year? Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:19:39We don't believe any more than normal. Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:19:42Normal, yeah, normal promotions. E-com in particular, we tend to run some specials, but it's targeted promotions. David StormsSenior Research Analyst at Stonegate00:19:52Understood. Thank you. And then just wanted to touch on the bankruptcy. Are there any other customers that you're seeing as highly at risk, and is there any recourse to recover some of that write-off? Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:20:04Well, you probably know who that big customer is. And there's probably not a lot of recourse. We've done what we can to mitigate that loss. And that's really the only big customer that we, there's always a small customer here or there that's bankrupt. We haven't really noticed a particularly significant change in the pace of bankruptcies or distressed receivables, but that was one that, that was one that was just, it was a big customer, and we got caught. David StormsSenior Research Analyst at Stonegate00:20:40Understood. And then I did have another question around the licensing deal. I was hoping you could speak a little more around the logistics and next steps and maybe what early wins would look like. It looks like this is a decent amount of white space for you all. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:20:53Yeah. And what you're mentioning is the reason we're going to launch in October. The temptation, of course, is to move faster than that and try to launch in April. But right is going to be much more important than fast for us, and we want to get this right. So the logistics right now of everything are pulling that together. Sunset West, our outdoor company, is obviously heavily involved. All of our Domestic Upholstery is involved. Hooker Branded's involved. Contract's involved. Hospitality. So right now, the biggest thing we're working on is pulling everything together the way it needs to be pulled together in order to put our best foot forward on a launch. And that will continue until we get there. David StormsSenior Research Analyst at Stonegate00:21:41That's very helpful. And then just one last question for me, a two-parter around cost savings. Should we expect any further severance costs in 4Q? And then looking into the next year, should we expect the $10 million to be evenly spread out, or would we expect that to be more back-end weighted as those cost savings ran? Paul HuckfeldtCFO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:22:01We don't expect significant additional, at this point, anyway, we don't expect significant additional restructuring costs. We've got one more reasonably large element of our cost savings program that we still need to execute. But I would say that most of it's going to be in place for the better part of the year. We haven't started really, we haven't fully realized a lot of those savings yet, but we expect to start seeing those in the fourth quarter. And I would say that most of the $10 million will be evenly spread through next year. David StormsSenior Research Analyst at Stonegate00:22:38Understood. That's all very helpful. Apologies. That's all very helpful. Thank you for taking my questions, and good luck in the fourth quarter. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:22:48Thank you. Operator00:22:53Thank you, and I am showing no further questions in the Q&A queue at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Mr. Jeremy Hoff for any closing remarks. Jeremy HoffCEO at Hooker Furnishings Corporation00:23:02I would like to thank everyone on the call for their interest in Hooker Furnishings and wish you all a happy holiday season. We look forward to sharing our fiscal '25 full-year results in April next year. Take care. Operator00:23:16Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our conference for today. 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