NYSE:EIG Employers Q2 2024 Earnings Report $43.92 +0.02 (+0.03%) Closing price 05/22/2026 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$43.92 +0.01 (+0.01%) As of 05/22/2026 05:36 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Employers EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.10Consensus EPS $1.08Beat/MissBeat by +$0.02One Year Ago EPS$1.17Employers Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$217.00 millionExpected Revenue$223.82 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$6.82 millionYoY Revenue Growth+0.80%Employers Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date7/31/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, August 1, 2024Conference Call Time11:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsEmployers' Q2 2026 earnings is estimated for Wednesday, July 29, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, July 30, 2026 at 11:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Employers Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 1, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Employers reported adjusted EPS of $1.10 in Q2, the 6th highest in 10 years, driven by higher premiums and strong net investment gains. Gross written premiums grew 10% year-over-year (excluding audit adjustments), fueled by a 9% rise in new business and a 10% increase in renewals across all major channels. Underwriting results strengthened with a combined ratio of 95.4% (ex-LPT) and a current accident year combined ratio of 100.2% (ex-LPT & prior year development), the best levels since Q4 2018, and a record low 22% underwriting & G&A expense ratio. The company returned $27M to shareholders in Q2 via $19M of share repurchases at an average $41.53/share and a $0.30 quarterly dividend, while book value per share climbed 14% to $44.91. Florida fee schedule revisions effective January 2025 are projected to boost medical claim costs by about 5.6%, but pricing is regulated by NCCI, requiring stricter underwriting to offset potential margin pressure. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallEmployers Q2 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:01Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the 2024 Second Quarter Employers Holdings, Inc. earnings call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. After this speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during this session, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Lori Brown, General Counsel. Please go ahead. Lori BrownVP, Chief Legal Officer, General Counsel and Corporate Secretary at Employers Holdings Inc.00:00:36Thank you, Marvin. Good morning and welcome, everyone, to the Second Quarter 2024 earnings call for Employers. Today's call is being recorded and webcast from the investor section of our website, where a replay will be available following the call. Presenting today are Kathy Antonello, our Chief Executive Officer, and Mike Paquette, our Chief Financial Officer. Statements made during this conference call that are not based on historical facts are considered forward-looking statements. These statements are made in reliance on the Safe Harbor provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Although we believe the expectations expressed in our forward-looking statements are reasonable, risks and uncertainties could cause actual results to be materially different from our expectations, including the risks set forth in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Lori BrownVP, Chief Legal Officer, General Counsel and Corporate Secretary at Employers Holdings Inc.00:01:30All remarks made during the call are current only at the time of the call and will not be updated to reflect subsequent developments. The company also uses its website as a means of disclosing material nonpublic information and for complying with disclosure obligations under the SEC's Regulation FD. Such disclosures will be included on the investor section of our website. Accordingly, investors should monitor that portion of our website in addition to following our press releases, SEC filings, public conference calls, and webcasts. In our earnings press release and in our remarks or responses to questions, we may use non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to our GAAP results are included in our financial supplement as an attachment to our earnings press release, our investor presentation, and any other materials available in the investor section on our website. And now I'll turn the call over to Kathy. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:02:33Thank you, Lori. Good morning to everyone and welcome to our Second Quarter 2024 earnings call. Today, we will follow our typical agenda, where I'll begin by providing some highlights of our Second Quarter 2024 financial results. I'll then hand it over to Mike for more details on our financials. Prior to Q&A, I'll come back to you with some additional commentary. Our Second Quarter results were very strong. Our adjusted net income per share of $1.10 was the sixth highest quarterly result in our last 10 years of operations. Higher new and renewal premiums, strong net investment income, and continued net investment gains drove year-over-year increases in revenue for both the quarter and the first six months of 2024. Our steady growth in written premium resulted from a 9% increase in new business and a 10% increase in renewal business, partially offset by lower final audit premium recognition. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:03:39Excluding audit premium adjustments, our gross written premiums increased 10% for the quarter, with all major distribution channels contributing to the growth. Our investment performance was also a boost to revenue, with strong net investment income and further net unrealized gains from our common stocks and other investments. From an underwriting standpoint, our mid-year full reserve study led to the recognition of $9.3 million of net favorable prior-year loss reserve development from our voluntary business. That action, coupled with a meaningful decrease in underwriting expenses, led to a combined ratio of 95.4%, excluding the LPT. Our current accident year combined ratio, excluding both the LPT and prior-year development, was 100.2%, which is the lowest it's been since the fourth quarter of 2018. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:04:39We believe that our accident year 2024 loss ratio of 64%, along with our existing provision for a potential increase in medical inflation, positions us well from a reserving standpoint. I'm particularly pleased with our underwriting and general and administrative expense ratio this quarter of 22%, which is down sharply from 26% a year ago and is the lowest it's been since the third quarter of 2018. The decrease was primarily the result of the Cerity integration plan, which we executed in the fourth quarter of 2023. With that, Mike will now provide a deeper dive into our financials, and then I'll return to provide my closing remarks. Mike. Mike PaquetteEVP and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:05:25Thank you, Kathy. Our gross premiums written were $208 million, an increase of 5%. As Kathy mentioned, the increase was primarily due to higher new and renewal premiums, partially offset by lower final audit premiums. Net premiums earned were $188 million, an increase of 6%. Our losses and loss adjustment expenses were $109 million versus $91 million a year ago. The increase was primarily the result of higher net earned premiums and less net favorable prior-year loss reserve development. We recognized $9 million of net favorable development during the second quarter versus $20 million of net favorable development a year ago. To both mitigate our overall tail risk and generate additional reserve salvage, we've continued to settle claims throughout 2024 on an accelerated basis consistent with that of prior years. Mike PaquetteEVP and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:06:22Commission expenses were $27 million versus $24 million a year ago, and our commission expense ratio was 14.3% versus 13.3% a year ago. The increase in our commission expense ratio was primarily related to an increase in new business writings, which are typically subject to a higher initial commission rate. The increase further resulted from a reversal of commission expense made in the second quarter of 2023 relating to uncollected premium. Underwriting and general and administrative expenses were $41 million versus $46 million, and our underwriting and general administrative expense ratio was 22% versus 26% a year ago. The decrease was primarily the result of the success of our Cerity integration plan, as Kathy previously mentioned. Our net investment income was $27 million for the quarter, a slight increase from a year ago. Mike PaquetteEVP and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:07:22The increase was primarily due to higher yields on our fixed maturity investments, largely offset by the unwinding of our former Federal Home Loan Bank leveraged investment strategy in late 2023. When considering the nearly $2 million of interest expense that we incurred from that former strategy in the second quarter of 2023, our net investment income was actually up more than 8% year-over-year. Our fixed maturities currently have a duration of 4.4 and an average credit quality of A-plus. Our weighted average book yield was 4.3% at quarter end, which is up nicely from 4.1% a year ago. Our net income this quarter was favorably impacted by $4 million of net after-tax unrealized gains generated from equity securities, and other investment holdings, both of which are reflected on our income statement. Mike PaquetteEVP and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:08:20Our stockholders' equity was unfavorably impacted by $5 million of net after-tax investment losses generated from fixed maturity holdings, which are reflected on our balance sheet. During the second quarter, we repurchased $19 million of our common stock at an average price of $41.53 per share. Thus far, we have repurchased an additional $3 million of our common stock in the third quarter at an average price of $42.56 per share. Our remaining share repurchase authority currently stands at $44 million. Yesterday, our board of directors declared a third quarter 2024 regular quarterly dividend of $0.30 per share. This dividend is payable on August 28th to stockholders of record on August 14th. With that, I'll now turn the call back to Kathy. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:09:12Thank you, Mike. This quarter, we returned $27 million to our stockholders through a combination of regular quarterly dividends and share repurchases at an average price that was highly accretive to our adjusted book value per share. After considering dividends declared over the last 12 months, our book value per share, including the deferred gain, has increased 14% to $44.91, and our adjusted book value per share has increased by more than 10% to $48.89. Both the combined ratio and the growth in our adjusted book value per share continue to be our preferred metrics for measuring our success. And we're confident we will see further improvements in these metrics in the future. In closing, last month, we made the bittersweet announcement that Mike will be retiring at the end of March in 2025. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:10:08I want to personally acknowledge his tremendous contributions to the organization over the past seven years. With that, operator, we will now take questions. Operator00:10:22Thank you. At this time, we'll conduct the question-and-answer session. As a reminder to ask a question, you'll need to press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Mark Hughes of Truist. Your line is now open. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:10:49Thank you. Good morning. Kathy. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:10:52Hi, Mark. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:10:54Hello. In California, does the workers' comp reimbursement follow Medicare fee schedules in whole or in part? Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:11:07Yes. It is my understanding that the California medical fee schedules are tied to Medicare. I believe there are some adjustments. It's not dollar for dollar, but yes, they are tied to Medicare. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:11:22Given the circumstances, are we to think that the risk of future medical inflation is limited if fee schedules there and many other states? I'm not exactly sure of the numbers, but if those are tied to those fee schedules, I assume the government is going to be just as motivated to suppress those costs in the future as they have been in the past. So should we think that medical inflation is less of a risk? Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:11:59Well, I'd say, generally speaking, the industry has done a really nice job over the last more than a decade of putting medical cost containment measures into place. And those would include medical fee schedules for hospitals, physicians, inpatient and outpatient, and so forth. Many, but not all of those fee schedules are tied to Medicare. And so I would think they would move somewhat in tandem. But the fee schedules that have been put in place have been very successful. I mean, you mentioned California in particular back in, I think it was back in 2013 when they passed Senate Bill 863. That was highly successful, wildly more successful than I think anyone predicted. And so I would just say, generally speaking, the fee schedules and workers' compensation are working, and they are helping to keep medical costs under control. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:13:13When we think about the top-line outlook, audit premiums are still positive, not as positive as they've been. But we've talked about kind of your expansion and appetite, and you could throw in competition. Any kind of general commentary about what you expect when it comes to top-line growth, keeping in mind all the different drivers? Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:13:46I mean, I'm pleased with the level of top-line growth that we're seeing. We did see some pressure this quarter in terms of offsetting the new and renewal business growth. There was an offset in terms of audit pickup slowing down. We also decreased our audit accrual during the quarter. None of it, I would say, is surprising to me, though. When you look at the underlying economic conditions, as of June, just to give you a few numbers, the BLS annual change in employment and hourly wages for leisure and hospitality, which is where a lot of our focus is. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:14:44Kathy, are you still there? Kathy, are you there? Kathy, if you were there, I have lost you. Operator00:15:48Please remain on the line. Your conference will resume shortly. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:17:45We were talking about. Fine. So I would start back up there. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:17:51Hello, Kathy. Can you hear me? Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:17:54I can. My apologies for that. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:17:58No, it's probably me. I'm sure I did something wrong. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:18:02I'm sure. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:18:03I had asked a question about the growth outlook, and you had just started a comment. So I'll say it again. If you take it, competition, appetite, all that, kind of what should we think about top-line? Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:18:22 So I am not terribly surprised with the decrease we saw in audit pickups this quarter, especially given the underlying economic conditions that we're seeing. And so just to give you a few numbers, as of June, the BLS annual change in employment and hourly wages was 6% for leisure and hospitality. That compares to 10.5% a year ago. And that reduction in the change in employment and wages is what's putting pressure on our audit pickups. And it's—did it fall again? Hello. Can you hear me? Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:19:05I can hear you. You're coming through loud and clear. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:19:08Okay. Sorry about that. So that is what is putting pressure on our audit pickups. And it's also causing us to decrease our audit accrual. And it's bringing our top-line growth down a bit. We're not seeing decreases in terms of the new business premium that's coming through, and our renewal premiums continue to be strong too. So just to give you a couple of numbers, we ended the quarter with an audit accrual of $34.2 million. And that's a decrease of $5.1 million this quarter. That compares to an increase in the second quarter of 2023. So that decrease in accrual was a meaningful contributor to both written and earned premium this quarter. But then when you look at audit pickups, they were $4.9 million this quarter versus $7.7 million in the second quarter of 2023. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:20:07Like I said earlier, if you exclude the final audit pickup and the change in accrual, our gross written premium was up about 10% in the second quarter of 2024 relative to the second quarter of 2023. Endorsement premium is also coming in very strong. We recognize about $13 million in endorsements and about $3 million in non-compliant premium. So the growth that we're seeing is coming from all of our major distribution channels. Like I said, strong endorsement premium. You mentioned appetite expansion. That is a meaningful contributor to the growth. I think about $41 million of our premium this quarter came from our appetite expansion efforts. And that's performing at a very good loss ratio, very similar to what we're seeing for all of our other classes. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:21:09I appreciate that detail. Then one final one on the expenses. Mike, the step-down sequentially this quarter is pretty striking. Historically, the progression from 1Q to 2Q is steadier up a little bit. What's the right run rate? First, was there anything unusual this quarter, one-timers, that sort of thing? And then is this kind of the starting base, so to speak, and apply whatever expense growth or seasonality, that sort of thing? But the $41.4, is that a good number as a starting base? Mike PaquetteEVP and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:21:59It's hard to say, Mark. The reason why is our expenses can ebb and flow. I'm not aware of anything that's particularly unusual in terms of our second quarter of 2024 expenses. They can vary dramatically based on incentive accruals, timing of IT projects, and all of those types of things. If you recall, when we had this call at year-end, we kind of mentioned that the Cerity runoff or the Cerity integration was going to provide at least a point and a half of relief on our expense ratio versus what it would otherwise be. That's probably the same thing to bring into the balance of the year. Keep in mind, it will ebb and flow. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:22:47And so if we think of last year, I think it's a 25%. Is that the way to think about it? A point and a half off of that is a good way to look at it? Mike PaquetteEVP and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:23:00With expenses and commissions, I would always look at the year-to-dates because that'll take out some of the noise. But if you look at, say, the year-to-date and then look at least 1.5 percentage points of savings or so, that's about what the best guess I could give you right now. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:23:22Okay. I'll squeeze in one more if I might. Kathy, competition, anything you would say about the level of competition that people see more competitors more enthused about, workers' comp, about the same? Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:23:41I'd say it's about the same. When you look at the sectors and policy sizes that we write, we would continue to say that the environment is fairly competitive. When we look at our renewal book and adjust for changes in exposure, our 2024 average rate showed a year-over-year rate decrease of between 3% and 4%. And that's pretty typical of what we've been seeing over the last several quarters. So, things are a lot of that is being driven by the decreases in loss costs that the bureaus are filing. But it's still competitive. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:24:25Great. Thank you very much. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:24:27Thank you, Mark. Operator00:24:30Thank you. One moment for our next question. Again, as a reminder to ask a question, you'll need to press 11 on your telephone. Our next question comes from the line of Matt Carletti of Citizens JMP. Your line is now open. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:24:54Hey, thanks. Good morning. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:24:56Good morning, Matt. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:24:59Kathy, my first question kind of actually follows on from one of Mark's questions on Medicare. But my understanding is specific to Florida. There's some somewhat significant fee schedule changes coming. I was hoping you could comment on kind of your ability to manage that, particularly in the context of Florida being more of an administered pricing state. So less, I guess, flexibility on how you can price each risk. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:25:27 It's a great question, Matt. I'll say internally, we haven't analyzed the legislation in Florida yet or NCCI's recent filing in response to those medical fee changes. My understanding is the changes are effective in January of 2025. The primary driver of the increase is expected to be physician services and the cost of those services, a little bit coming from hospital outpatient. I believe NCCI is projecting a 5.6% increase in costs as a result of those legislative changes. As you said, the truth of the matter is, with Florida being the last remaining administered pricing state, there isn't a whole lot that we can do if we disagree with the pricing other than tighten our underwriting standards. In terms of pricing flexibility in Florida, we have none. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:26:32We'll just have to look at the business that we're writing and, if we feel it's necessary, tighten our underwriting standards from a declination standpoint. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:26:43Okay. Thanks. That's helpful. And then just one for Mike on reserves, on the favorable reserve development in the quarter. Can you give us any color on trends by accident year or just kind of anything, kind of peel back the onion a little bit on some of the movements behind the scenes that led to that good result? Mike PaquetteEVP and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:27:05Sure. So the favorable development that we saw this quarter was predominantly years 2022 and prior. We did have a little bit of unfavorable experience in 2023 that partially offset the amount that we recognized relating to other states with some large losses that occurred late in the year and have developed a little bit unfavorably in this calendar year. That's where we came out. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:27:36Okay. Great. Thank you. Appreciate it. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:27:39Thanks, Matt. Operator00:27:42Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Bob Farnam of Janney Montgomery Scott. Your line is now open. Robert FarnamManging Director at Janney Montgomery Scott00:27:57 Hey there. Good morning. My primary question was on the performance of the book of expansion business. But Kathy, it sounds like that business is performing as expected or in line with your other business. I guess I'll focus on another question I had was, is there much of a difference between the performance of the book that you're getting from ADP versus your non-ADP book? Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:28:29We do analyze those results separately. And the ADP book of business for us has always been very favorable, and it continues to be. We have a very strong relationship with them and continue to. And I think it's a very strong book. We haven't seen any changes in that book of business. Robert FarnamManging Director at Janney Montgomery Scott00:28:57Okay.That's it for me. Again, I want to say more interested in the expansion book of business. But again, you kind of already answered that. So thanks. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:29:09That expansion book, we've been very, very pleased with the results that we're seeing there. And our intention is to continue to expand into new class codes as we see the environment is favorable. So continuing to do that. Robert FarnamManging Director at Janney Montgomery Scott00:29:28Great. Thanks. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:29:31Thank you, Bob. Operator00:29:33Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'll now like to turn it back to Kathy Antonello for closing remarks. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:29:42Okay. Thank you, Marvin. Thank you all for joining us this morning. I look forward to meeting with you again in October. Operator00:29:51Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesKatherine AntonelloPresident and CEOLori BrownVP, Chief Legal Officer, General Counsel and Corporate SecretaryMike PaquetteEVP and CEOAnalystsMatt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMPRobert FarnamManging Director at Janney Montgomery ScottPowered by Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Employers Earnings Headlines1 Cash-Heavy Stock to Own for Decades and 2 That UnderwhelmMay 23 at 1:40 PM | finance.yahoo.comEmployers (NYSE:EIG) Stock Crosses Above Two Hundred Day Moving Average - What's Next?May 21, 2026 | americanbankingnews.comGoldman Sachs just told you what to buy (most people missed it)Goldman Sachs just revealed that 40% of AI data centers will be crippled by electricity shortages by 2027 - not chips, not funding, but power. Demand is growing 15% per year and the grid can't keep up. One small company makes the exact equipment these data centers need. 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(NYSE: EIG) is a publicly traded property and casualty insurance holding company headquartered in Des Moines, Iowa. Through its subsidiaries, Employers Mutual Casualty Company and Employers Preferred Insurance Company, the firm specializes in providing workers’ compensation coverage alongside an array of commercial insurance products. Its service offerings include general liability, commercial auto, businessowners policies and umbrella coverages, tailored to meet the risk-management needs of small and mid-sized businesses across multiple industries. The company markets its insurance solutions primarily through a network of independent agencies and brokers, leveraging local market expertise to underwrite policies that address the unique exposures faced by clients in manufacturing, construction, healthcare, retail and service sectors. In addition to core insurance products, Employers Holdings offers loss control services, claims administration and online risk-management tools designed to help policyholders minimize workplace accidents and manage costs effectively. With roots dating back to 1913 when Iowa Employers Mutual was founded to serve local businesses, Employers Holdings converted into a stock-holder structure and began trading publicly in 2005. Since then, it has expanded its footprint beyond the Midwest, writing business in more than two dozen U.S. states. The company maintains regional offices to support its agent network and ensure responsive customer service. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:01Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the 2024 Second Quarter Employers Holdings, Inc. earnings call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. After this speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during this session, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Lori Brown, General Counsel. Please go ahead. Lori BrownVP, Chief Legal Officer, General Counsel and Corporate Secretary at Employers Holdings Inc.00:00:36Thank you, Marvin. Good morning and welcome, everyone, to the Second Quarter 2024 earnings call for Employers. Today's call is being recorded and webcast from the investor section of our website, where a replay will be available following the call. Presenting today are Kathy Antonello, our Chief Executive Officer, and Mike Paquette, our Chief Financial Officer. Statements made during this conference call that are not based on historical facts are considered forward-looking statements. These statements are made in reliance on the Safe Harbor provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Although we believe the expectations expressed in our forward-looking statements are reasonable, risks and uncertainties could cause actual results to be materially different from our expectations, including the risks set forth in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Lori BrownVP, Chief Legal Officer, General Counsel and Corporate Secretary at Employers Holdings Inc.00:01:30All remarks made during the call are current only at the time of the call and will not be updated to reflect subsequent developments. The company also uses its website as a means of disclosing material nonpublic information and for complying with disclosure obligations under the SEC's Regulation FD. Such disclosures will be included on the investor section of our website. Accordingly, investors should monitor that portion of our website in addition to following our press releases, SEC filings, public conference calls, and webcasts. In our earnings press release and in our remarks or responses to questions, we may use non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to our GAAP results are included in our financial supplement as an attachment to our earnings press release, our investor presentation, and any other materials available in the investor section on our website. And now I'll turn the call over to Kathy. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:02:33Thank you, Lori. Good morning to everyone and welcome to our Second Quarter 2024 earnings call. Today, we will follow our typical agenda, where I'll begin by providing some highlights of our Second Quarter 2024 financial results. I'll then hand it over to Mike for more details on our financials. Prior to Q&A, I'll come back to you with some additional commentary. Our Second Quarter results were very strong. Our adjusted net income per share of $1.10 was the sixth highest quarterly result in our last 10 years of operations. Higher new and renewal premiums, strong net investment income, and continued net investment gains drove year-over-year increases in revenue for both the quarter and the first six months of 2024. Our steady growth in written premium resulted from a 9% increase in new business and a 10% increase in renewal business, partially offset by lower final audit premium recognition. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:03:39Excluding audit premium adjustments, our gross written premiums increased 10% for the quarter, with all major distribution channels contributing to the growth. Our investment performance was also a boost to revenue, with strong net investment income and further net unrealized gains from our common stocks and other investments. From an underwriting standpoint, our mid-year full reserve study led to the recognition of $9.3 million of net favorable prior-year loss reserve development from our voluntary business. That action, coupled with a meaningful decrease in underwriting expenses, led to a combined ratio of 95.4%, excluding the LPT. Our current accident year combined ratio, excluding both the LPT and prior-year development, was 100.2%, which is the lowest it's been since the fourth quarter of 2018. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:04:39We believe that our accident year 2024 loss ratio of 64%, along with our existing provision for a potential increase in medical inflation, positions us well from a reserving standpoint. I'm particularly pleased with our underwriting and general and administrative expense ratio this quarter of 22%, which is down sharply from 26% a year ago and is the lowest it's been since the third quarter of 2018. The decrease was primarily the result of the Cerity integration plan, which we executed in the fourth quarter of 2023. With that, Mike will now provide a deeper dive into our financials, and then I'll return to provide my closing remarks. Mike. Mike PaquetteEVP and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:05:25Thank you, Kathy. Our gross premiums written were $208 million, an increase of 5%. As Kathy mentioned, the increase was primarily due to higher new and renewal premiums, partially offset by lower final audit premiums. Net premiums earned were $188 million, an increase of 6%. Our losses and loss adjustment expenses were $109 million versus $91 million a year ago. The increase was primarily the result of higher net earned premiums and less net favorable prior-year loss reserve development. We recognized $9 million of net favorable development during the second quarter versus $20 million of net favorable development a year ago. To both mitigate our overall tail risk and generate additional reserve salvage, we've continued to settle claims throughout 2024 on an accelerated basis consistent with that of prior years. Mike PaquetteEVP and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:06:22Commission expenses were $27 million versus $24 million a year ago, and our commission expense ratio was 14.3% versus 13.3% a year ago. The increase in our commission expense ratio was primarily related to an increase in new business writings, which are typically subject to a higher initial commission rate. The increase further resulted from a reversal of commission expense made in the second quarter of 2023 relating to uncollected premium. Underwriting and general and administrative expenses were $41 million versus $46 million, and our underwriting and general administrative expense ratio was 22% versus 26% a year ago. The decrease was primarily the result of the success of our Cerity integration plan, as Kathy previously mentioned. Our net investment income was $27 million for the quarter, a slight increase from a year ago. Mike PaquetteEVP and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:07:22The increase was primarily due to higher yields on our fixed maturity investments, largely offset by the unwinding of our former Federal Home Loan Bank leveraged investment strategy in late 2023. When considering the nearly $2 million of interest expense that we incurred from that former strategy in the second quarter of 2023, our net investment income was actually up more than 8% year-over-year. Our fixed maturities currently have a duration of 4.4 and an average credit quality of A-plus. Our weighted average book yield was 4.3% at quarter end, which is up nicely from 4.1% a year ago. Our net income this quarter was favorably impacted by $4 million of net after-tax unrealized gains generated from equity securities, and other investment holdings, both of which are reflected on our income statement. Mike PaquetteEVP and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:08:20Our stockholders' equity was unfavorably impacted by $5 million of net after-tax investment losses generated from fixed maturity holdings, which are reflected on our balance sheet. During the second quarter, we repurchased $19 million of our common stock at an average price of $41.53 per share. Thus far, we have repurchased an additional $3 million of our common stock in the third quarter at an average price of $42.56 per share. Our remaining share repurchase authority currently stands at $44 million. Yesterday, our board of directors declared a third quarter 2024 regular quarterly dividend of $0.30 per share. This dividend is payable on August 28th to stockholders of record on August 14th. With that, I'll now turn the call back to Kathy. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:09:12Thank you, Mike. This quarter, we returned $27 million to our stockholders through a combination of regular quarterly dividends and share repurchases at an average price that was highly accretive to our adjusted book value per share. After considering dividends declared over the last 12 months, our book value per share, including the deferred gain, has increased 14% to $44.91, and our adjusted book value per share has increased by more than 10% to $48.89. Both the combined ratio and the growth in our adjusted book value per share continue to be our preferred metrics for measuring our success. And we're confident we will see further improvements in these metrics in the future. In closing, last month, we made the bittersweet announcement that Mike will be retiring at the end of March in 2025. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:10:08I want to personally acknowledge his tremendous contributions to the organization over the past seven years. With that, operator, we will now take questions. Operator00:10:22Thank you. At this time, we'll conduct the question-and-answer session. As a reminder to ask a question, you'll need to press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Mark Hughes of Truist. Your line is now open. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:10:49Thank you. Good morning. Kathy. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:10:52Hi, Mark. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:10:54Hello. In California, does the workers' comp reimbursement follow Medicare fee schedules in whole or in part? Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:11:07Yes. It is my understanding that the California medical fee schedules are tied to Medicare. I believe there are some adjustments. It's not dollar for dollar, but yes, they are tied to Medicare. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:11:22Given the circumstances, are we to think that the risk of future medical inflation is limited if fee schedules there and many other states? I'm not exactly sure of the numbers, but if those are tied to those fee schedules, I assume the government is going to be just as motivated to suppress those costs in the future as they have been in the past. So should we think that medical inflation is less of a risk? Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:11:59Well, I'd say, generally speaking, the industry has done a really nice job over the last more than a decade of putting medical cost containment measures into place. And those would include medical fee schedules for hospitals, physicians, inpatient and outpatient, and so forth. Many, but not all of those fee schedules are tied to Medicare. And so I would think they would move somewhat in tandem. But the fee schedules that have been put in place have been very successful. I mean, you mentioned California in particular back in, I think it was back in 2013 when they passed Senate Bill 863. That was highly successful, wildly more successful than I think anyone predicted. And so I would just say, generally speaking, the fee schedules and workers' compensation are working, and they are helping to keep medical costs under control. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:13:13When we think about the top-line outlook, audit premiums are still positive, not as positive as they've been. But we've talked about kind of your expansion and appetite, and you could throw in competition. Any kind of general commentary about what you expect when it comes to top-line growth, keeping in mind all the different drivers? Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:13:46I mean, I'm pleased with the level of top-line growth that we're seeing. We did see some pressure this quarter in terms of offsetting the new and renewal business growth. There was an offset in terms of audit pickup slowing down. We also decreased our audit accrual during the quarter. None of it, I would say, is surprising to me, though. When you look at the underlying economic conditions, as of June, just to give you a few numbers, the BLS annual change in employment and hourly wages for leisure and hospitality, which is where a lot of our focus is. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:14:44Kathy, are you still there? Kathy, are you there? Kathy, if you were there, I have lost you. Operator00:15:48Please remain on the line. Your conference will resume shortly. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:17:45We were talking about. Fine. So I would start back up there. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:17:51Hello, Kathy. Can you hear me? Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:17:54I can. My apologies for that. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:17:58No, it's probably me. I'm sure I did something wrong. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:18:02I'm sure. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:18:03I had asked a question about the growth outlook, and you had just started a comment. So I'll say it again. If you take it, competition, appetite, all that, kind of what should we think about top-line? Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:18:22 So I am not terribly surprised with the decrease we saw in audit pickups this quarter, especially given the underlying economic conditions that we're seeing. And so just to give you a few numbers, as of June, the BLS annual change in employment and hourly wages was 6% for leisure and hospitality. That compares to 10.5% a year ago. And that reduction in the change in employment and wages is what's putting pressure on our audit pickups. And it's—did it fall again? Hello. Can you hear me? Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:19:05I can hear you. You're coming through loud and clear. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:19:08Okay. Sorry about that. So that is what is putting pressure on our audit pickups. And it's also causing us to decrease our audit accrual. And it's bringing our top-line growth down a bit. We're not seeing decreases in terms of the new business premium that's coming through, and our renewal premiums continue to be strong too. So just to give you a couple of numbers, we ended the quarter with an audit accrual of $34.2 million. And that's a decrease of $5.1 million this quarter. That compares to an increase in the second quarter of 2023. So that decrease in accrual was a meaningful contributor to both written and earned premium this quarter. But then when you look at audit pickups, they were $4.9 million this quarter versus $7.7 million in the second quarter of 2023. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:20:07Like I said earlier, if you exclude the final audit pickup and the change in accrual, our gross written premium was up about 10% in the second quarter of 2024 relative to the second quarter of 2023. Endorsement premium is also coming in very strong. We recognize about $13 million in endorsements and about $3 million in non-compliant premium. So the growth that we're seeing is coming from all of our major distribution channels. Like I said, strong endorsement premium. You mentioned appetite expansion. That is a meaningful contributor to the growth. I think about $41 million of our premium this quarter came from our appetite expansion efforts. And that's performing at a very good loss ratio, very similar to what we're seeing for all of our other classes. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:21:09I appreciate that detail. Then one final one on the expenses. Mike, the step-down sequentially this quarter is pretty striking. Historically, the progression from 1Q to 2Q is steadier up a little bit. What's the right run rate? First, was there anything unusual this quarter, one-timers, that sort of thing? And then is this kind of the starting base, so to speak, and apply whatever expense growth or seasonality, that sort of thing? But the $41.4, is that a good number as a starting base? Mike PaquetteEVP and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:21:59It's hard to say, Mark. The reason why is our expenses can ebb and flow. I'm not aware of anything that's particularly unusual in terms of our second quarter of 2024 expenses. They can vary dramatically based on incentive accruals, timing of IT projects, and all of those types of things. If you recall, when we had this call at year-end, we kind of mentioned that the Cerity runoff or the Cerity integration was going to provide at least a point and a half of relief on our expense ratio versus what it would otherwise be. That's probably the same thing to bring into the balance of the year. Keep in mind, it will ebb and flow. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:22:47And so if we think of last year, I think it's a 25%. Is that the way to think about it? A point and a half off of that is a good way to look at it? Mike PaquetteEVP and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:23:00With expenses and commissions, I would always look at the year-to-dates because that'll take out some of the noise. But if you look at, say, the year-to-date and then look at least 1.5 percentage points of savings or so, that's about what the best guess I could give you right now. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:23:22Okay. I'll squeeze in one more if I might. Kathy, competition, anything you would say about the level of competition that people see more competitors more enthused about, workers' comp, about the same? Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:23:41I'd say it's about the same. When you look at the sectors and policy sizes that we write, we would continue to say that the environment is fairly competitive. When we look at our renewal book and adjust for changes in exposure, our 2024 average rate showed a year-over-year rate decrease of between 3% and 4%. And that's pretty typical of what we've been seeing over the last several quarters. So, things are a lot of that is being driven by the decreases in loss costs that the bureaus are filing. But it's still competitive. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:24:25Great. Thank you very much. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:24:27Thank you, Mark. Operator00:24:30Thank you. One moment for our next question. Again, as a reminder to ask a question, you'll need to press 11 on your telephone. Our next question comes from the line of Matt Carletti of Citizens JMP. Your line is now open. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:24:54Hey, thanks. Good morning. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:24:56Good morning, Matt. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:24:59Kathy, my first question kind of actually follows on from one of Mark's questions on Medicare. But my understanding is specific to Florida. There's some somewhat significant fee schedule changes coming. I was hoping you could comment on kind of your ability to manage that, particularly in the context of Florida being more of an administered pricing state. So less, I guess, flexibility on how you can price each risk. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:25:27 It's a great question, Matt. I'll say internally, we haven't analyzed the legislation in Florida yet or NCCI's recent filing in response to those medical fee changes. My understanding is the changes are effective in January of 2025. The primary driver of the increase is expected to be physician services and the cost of those services, a little bit coming from hospital outpatient. I believe NCCI is projecting a 5.6% increase in costs as a result of those legislative changes. As you said, the truth of the matter is, with Florida being the last remaining administered pricing state, there isn't a whole lot that we can do if we disagree with the pricing other than tighten our underwriting standards. In terms of pricing flexibility in Florida, we have none. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:26:32We'll just have to look at the business that we're writing and, if we feel it's necessary, tighten our underwriting standards from a declination standpoint. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:26:43Okay. Thanks. That's helpful. And then just one for Mike on reserves, on the favorable reserve development in the quarter. Can you give us any color on trends by accident year or just kind of anything, kind of peel back the onion a little bit on some of the movements behind the scenes that led to that good result? Mike PaquetteEVP and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:27:05Sure. So the favorable development that we saw this quarter was predominantly years 2022 and prior. We did have a little bit of unfavorable experience in 2023 that partially offset the amount that we recognized relating to other states with some large losses that occurred late in the year and have developed a little bit unfavorably in this calendar year. That's where we came out. Matt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMP00:27:36Okay. Great. Thank you. Appreciate it. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:27:39Thanks, Matt. Operator00:27:42Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Bob Farnam of Janney Montgomery Scott. Your line is now open. Robert FarnamManging Director at Janney Montgomery Scott00:27:57 Hey there. Good morning. My primary question was on the performance of the book of expansion business. But Kathy, it sounds like that business is performing as expected or in line with your other business. I guess I'll focus on another question I had was, is there much of a difference between the performance of the book that you're getting from ADP versus your non-ADP book? Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:28:29We do analyze those results separately. And the ADP book of business for us has always been very favorable, and it continues to be. We have a very strong relationship with them and continue to. And I think it's a very strong book. We haven't seen any changes in that book of business. Robert FarnamManging Director at Janney Montgomery Scott00:28:57Okay.That's it for me. Again, I want to say more interested in the expansion book of business. But again, you kind of already answered that. So thanks. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:29:09That expansion book, we've been very, very pleased with the results that we're seeing there. And our intention is to continue to expand into new class codes as we see the environment is favorable. So continuing to do that. Robert FarnamManging Director at Janney Montgomery Scott00:29:28Great. Thanks. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:29:31Thank you, Bob. Operator00:29:33Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'll now like to turn it back to Kathy Antonello for closing remarks. Katherine AntonelloPresident and CEO at Employers Holdings Inc.00:29:42Okay. Thank you, Marvin. Thank you all for joining us this morning. I look forward to meeting with you again in October. Operator00:29:51Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesKatherine AntonelloPresident and CEOLori BrownVP, Chief Legal Officer, General Counsel and Corporate SecretaryMike PaquetteEVP and CEOAnalystsMatt CarlettiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Citizens JMPRobert FarnamManging Director at Janney Montgomery ScottPowered by