NYSE:HXL Hexcel Q3 2025 Earnings Report $89.42 +0.77 (+0.86%) Closing price 05/18/2026 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$89.26 -0.15 (-0.17%) As of 05/18/2026 05:58 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Hexcel EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.37Consensus EPS $0.38Beat/MissMissed by -$0.01One Year Ago EPS$0.47Hexcel Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$456.20 millionExpected Revenue$449.99 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$6.21 millionYoY Revenue Growth-0.20%Hexcel Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2025Date10/22/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, October 23, 2025Conference Call Time9:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsHexcel's Q2 2026 earnings is estimated for Thursday, July 23, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled on Friday, July 24, 2026 at 9:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Hexcel Q3 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrOctober 23, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: Hexcel says it is at the start of a multiyear growth cycle in commercial aerospace as OEM build rates gain traction (A350, A320, 737 MAX, 787) and expects peak-rate production to drive roughly $500,000,000 of incremental annual revenue. Negative Sentiment: Third-quarter results were mixed — sales of $456.2M and adjusted EPS of $0.37 — with gross margin down to 21.9% and management narrowing full‑year sales and reducing EPS guidance due to ongoing destocking and tariffs. Positive Sentiment: The Defense, Space & Other business remains strong (Q3 sales $182M, +11.7% constant currency), driven by fighters, helicopters and space programs, providing revenue diversification and demand visibility. Positive Sentiment: Board approved a new $600M buyback authorization and launched a $350M accelerated share repurchase (funded temporarily by the revolver), while forecasting > $1,000,000,000 of cumulative free cash flow from 2025–2028 — a clear signal of management confidence and shareholder return focus. Negative Sentiment: Near‑term headwinds include tariffs (estimated ~$3–4M per quarter), inventory destocking that pressures operating leverage and margins, and a modest FX shift and higher interest expense from the ASR borrowings that compress near‑term EPS. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallHexcel Q3 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Hello, and thank you for standing by. My name is Tiffany, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Hexcel third quarter earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during that time, simply press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. I would now like to turn the call over to Kurt Goddard, Vice President of Investor Relations. Sir, please go ahead. Kurt GoddardVP of Investor Relations at Hexcel Corporation00:00:40Hello everyone. Welcome to Hexcel Corporation's third quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Before beginning, let me cover the formalities. I would like to remind everyone about the safe harbor provisions related to any forward-looking statements we may make during the course of this call. Certain statements contained in this call may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. They involve estimates, assumptions, judgments, and uncertainties caused by a variety of factors that could cause future actual results or outcomes to differ materially from our forward-looking statements today. Such factors are detailed in the company's SEC filings and earnings release. A replay of this call will be available on the Investor Relations page of our website. Lastly, this call is being recorded by Hexcel Corporation and is copyrighted material. It cannot be recorded or rebroadcast without our express permission. Kurt GoddardVP of Investor Relations at Hexcel Corporation00:01:40Your participation on this call constitutes your consent to that request. With me today are Tom Gentile, our CEO and Chairman and President, and Patrick Winterlich, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. The purpose of the call is to review our third quarter 2025 results detailed in our news release issued yesterday. Now let me turn the call over to Tom. Tom? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:02:05Thanks, Kurt. Hello everyone, and thank you for joining us today for Hexcel's third quarter 2025 earnings call. Our confidence in the growth outlook in the aerospace and defense markets and Hexcel's unique position within the industry remains strong. With Hexcel's broad portfolio of advanced, innovative lightweight materials, we are well positioned to meet the needs of our customers as they increase commercial and military aircraft and rotorcraft production rates. We are also working with customers on developing innovative advanced material solutions for next-generation commercial and military platforms. As we look at the opportunities in front of us, the outlook for Hexcel is compelling. At our September board meeting, which centered on strategy, we reinforced our strategic focus of advanced material science with an emphasis on the aerospace and defense market. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:02:52This is our North Star as we navigate a dynamic near-term environment and look to take advantage of the medium and longer-term opportunities in the aerospace and defense industry. The aerospace recovery from the pandemic has been frustratingly slow, with numerous start stops for original equipment suppliers like Hexcel. However, we have growing confidence that we are seeing the beginnings of a more sustained ramp-up in production based on our customer discussions and actions, as well as what we see in the aerospace supply chain. The demand for fuel-efficient, lightweight aircraft is clear. Air traffic has more than recovered to 2019 levels. The backlog for commercial aircraft has grown from 13,000 units before the pandemic to more than 15,000 today. Even with limited availability of near-term production slots, airlines around the world continue to place orders with Airbus and Boeing. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:03:42As we look at the macro environment for the commercial aerospace industry, we are clearly seeing growing momentum as past supply chain constraints subside. While we may experience some lingering destocking in the fourth quarter of 2025, we expect to exit 2025 fully aligned with the commercial aircraft build rates of our customers and positioned for growth in 2026 and beyond. Positive news developments in the past few weeks further support the rate ramps for each of our key platforms. Beginning with the A350, our largest program where we provide the entire lightweight material system, anticipated production rate increases by Airbus will be impactful for Hexcel in terms of driving capacity utilization. Airbus is targeting 12 aircraft per month by 2028 on the A350 program. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:04:30Rising build rates will drive operating leverage for Hexcel, and the EU approval last week that allows for the Spirit AeroSystems merger to move forward is another positive data point as those operations become streamlined into Airbus and Boeing. On the A320, Airbus is targeting 75 planes per month by 2027, with the expectation that build rates will be in the 60s in 2026. GE Aerospace just raised their 2025 LEAP delivery guidance for engines, and Safran just announced a new LEAP-1A engine assembly line in Morocco to support Airbus and the A320 program, and that should be operational by the end of 2027. On the 737 MAX, production has reached 38 airplanes per month, and Boeing recently received FAA approval to increase to 42 airplanes per month. On the 787, Boeing is now at seven a month as they target 10 aircraft per month in 2026. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:05:26Boeing is currently expanding its 787 production capacity in their Charleston facility, so there may be future upside beyond rate 10. We visited Charleston recently and saw the construction underway. All of these different signs of improving production system stability in the four major programs for both Airbus and Boeing give me and our board increasing confidence that their production targets are now getting traction. This growing confidence, coupled with actions that we have taken to clean up our portfolio, including the divestiture of our plant in Austria, will help us approach the margin levels we enjoyed in the past as production rates increase and drive operating leverage for Hexcel. We are clearly at the start of a multi-year growth cycle for commercial aerospace original equipment production, which will benefit Hexcel, given the strong positions that we have on all the major programs. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:06:17Turning to our financial results, Hexcel generated $456 million in sales and adjusted diluted EPS of $0.37 in the third quarter of 2025. These results are in line with our expectations for the quarter, which we knew in advance would be challenging due to slower seasonal sales and continued destocking by the commercial OEMs. Hexcel's gross margin for the third quarter was 21.9% compared to 23.3% in the third quarter of 2024. This was partly driven by tariffs and our decision to reduce finished goods inventory in the quarter, which impacted operating leverage and margins. As build rates rise into 2026, that increased sales volume will drive operating leverage and margin expansion. Regarding our markets, commercial aerospace sales were $274.2 million for the third quarter. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:07:08Commercial aerospace declined 7.3% year-over-year on a constant currency basis, primarily due to destocking on the Airbus A350 program and to a lesser extent on the Boeing 787 platform. That lower volume was partially offset by a 9.3% increase in other commercial aerospace sales driven by regional jet sales growth. Looking ahead to 2026, Hexcel is already seeing increased order activity for the first half of next year from the commercial OEMs, which supports our growing confidence. We experienced continued strength in our defense, space, and other segment with $182 million in sales for the third quarter, an increase of 11.7% on a constant currency basis over the same period last year. This growth was brought across several platforms for domestic and international customers that include fighters, rotorcraft, and space. As defense budgets in the U.S. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:08:02and with allied countries around the globe continue to increase, particularly to support the introduction of new platforms, we see continued strength in the underlying demand for Hexcel's advanced lightweight composite materials. Our innovative solutions enable greater range and payload, as well as lower observability for stealth platforms. In August, we were honored to host the U.S. Secretary of Labor, Laurie Chavez-DeRemer, at our Salt Lake City facility. This is our largest global facility. We produce both carbon fiber and prepreg at this facility, and the site also hosts our newest research and technology center of excellence. This visit was an opportunity to highlight Hexcel's critical role as the only vertically integrated U.S.-domiciled manufacturer of high-strength aerospace-grade composite materials for commercial aircraft and defense platforms. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:08:52It was also an opportunity to showcase our innovation as we develop and deliver even lighter, stronger, and stiffer composite solutions that are designed to support high production volumes by our customers. Our innovation is a mix of evolutionary steps by improving upon existing products, such as enhancing the adhesion characteristics of the carbon fiber surface, and revolutionary steps such as new resin systems that cure more quickly and at lower temperature to enable greater throughput by our customers. While we see commercial aerospace production rates starting to rise in the fourth quarter and into 2026, we still expect lingering OEM destocking in Q4. Tariffs also remain a headwind. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:09:34As we look at how the year may close out, we have narrowed our sales expectation to the bottom of the prior range, and we have reduced EPS guidance due to the impact of lower production from lingering destocking and the incorporation of tariffs into our guidance. We have also continued our cost reduction actions as we streamline operations through site rationalization. At the end of September, we completed the divestiture of our Neumarkt, Austria plant, which supplied wind energy and recreational markets using third-party purchased glass and industrial carbon fibers. This action follows the closure of a high-cost facility in Belgium and the divestiture of an additive manufacturing business that was not strategic for Hexcel earlier this year. These actions are part of our broader strategy to focus our operations and reduce our cost profile as we prepare for the upcoming production rate increases in our major programs. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:10:27As we have throughout this year, we continue to manage headcount closely. In previous calls, we stated that our headcount at the end of 2025 will be no higher than it was at the end of 2024. Our headcount has continued to decrease this year due to attrition and streamlining our operational footprints, as well as lagging production schedules until we see clear evidence of increases. At the end of the third quarter of 2025, our headcount was around the levels of year-end 2023 and well below where we ended 2024. Our inventory acts as a near-term buffer for unexpected demand spikes, and we expect to begin hiring again sometime in early 2026. We are comfortable that we will be able to attract and train the workers we will need. We do not ever intend to be a bottleneck for our customers' production. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:11:15In addition to our cost reduction actions, we continue to drive productivity. This includes our future factory program to drive greater unit cost efficiency with more use of automation, digitalization, robotics, and artificial intelligence. Along with cost and productivity gains, we will continue to work to realize price. As we have shared before, about 10%-15% of our contracts come up for renewal annually. As we negotiate new contracts, we are realizing price gains and expanding escalation and pass-through clauses. Once publicly disclosed peak build rates are reached, our existing sole source contracts with Airbus and Boeing will generate an incremental $500 million of annual revenue. Defense-based business and regional jets are all additive to that number, so the path to sales growth is very clear. The increasing sales drive operating leverage and margin expansion for Hexcel. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:12:10As we grow back into existing capacity, capital expenditures will remain subdued for a period of time at less than $100 million per year, likely for the rest of this decade. These factors will all drive strong free cash flow generation. We are forecasting to cumulatively generate more than $1 billion of free cash flow over the next four-year period of 2025 to 2028. With the forecasted production rates finally firming, our primary focus for the immediate future will be executing on the rate ramp, innovating lightweight materials to earn a position on the next generation of aircraft, and organically growing our defense business while returning excess cash to our stockholders. Given that the business is generating cash in excess of reinvestment needs, the Board and the management team spent a lot of time thinking about capital allocation. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:12:58In the past 18 months during my time as CEO, we have undertaken an extensive review of potential inorganic growth opportunities. We have not found any business that meets our stringent and disciplined strategic criteria for M&A, namely innovative advanced material science with an emphasis on aerospace and defense and a return threshold of 15% ROIC or greater. What we do see in front of us is unprecedented and pent-up demand for modern lightweight aircraft. This represents a tremendous organic growth opportunity for Hexcel. While OEM production schedules have been challenged for the past several years, we are seeing the OEMs increase production as the supply chain stabilizes. The individual catalysts for each major program that I mentioned earlier have helped remove obstacles to production rate increases. Hexcel is uniquely positioned in this market as the largest and most vertically integrated aerospace-grade carbon fiber composite manufacturer. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:13:58Our industry segment has significant barriers to entry given the large sums that we have invested in our material system and production facilities globally. We have industry-leading technology and intellectual property, and most importantly, we have our people, a highly trained and skilled workforce that we know can deliver on the rising demand in front of us with safety, quality, and the on-time delivery our customers expect. Our confidence is growing that the ongoing recovery in build rates is at an inflection point to a sustained ramp to peak rates, providing us greater optimism in our sales outlook and future cash generation. Given all these factors, strong cash generation profile driven by significant organic growth that provides us significant volume leverage combined with cost control and productivity to improve margins and an unmatched position in the marketplace, we believe now is the right time to repurchase Hexcel stock. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:14:53Since 2013, we have returned more than $1.5 billion to stockholders through share repurchases. In the past seven quarters, we have repurchased $350 million of shares and retired almost 6% of our flows. Yesterday, Hexcel's board of directors authorized an additional $600 million share repurchase program, and we also announced an accelerated share repurchase program, or ASR, of $350 million. We will fund the ASR from our revolver, which we will then repay from future cash generation. Launching this ASR now and making a significant repurchase of our stock underscores our strong belief in commercial aerospace production rate increases and our ability to execute with safety, quality, and on-time delivery to our customers. We are seeing resolution of major supply chain problems that have plagued the industry the past several years, and we see all the OEMs making solid progress on increasing their production rates. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:15:50I also want to be clear that we remain committed to a disciplined financial policy. We target a leverage ratio of 1.5x-2x debt/EBITDA. We plan to repay the ASR borrowings as soon as possible during 2026 to return Hexcel to this targeted leverage range. Now, before I turn the call over to Patrick to provide more details on the numbers, I want to comment on the 8-K we just filed, announcing that Patrick has accepted an offer to move over to Howmet, a much larger company than Hexcel. I am thrilled that Patrick has this opportunity to work with a company that plays such an important role in our industry. For 27 years, Patrick has been a transformational leader at Hexcel and has helped position our company to capture the opportunities I have described. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:16:34He has also been a terrific partner in helping me transition into my role at Hexcel over the last year and a half. We all wish him great success in his new role. Patrick has agreed to remain as our CFO during a transition period through the end of November, and we have already launched a process with a leading global executive search firm to recruit a world-class CFO to succeed him. With that, over to you, Patrick, for your final Hexcel call. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:16:57Thank you, Tom. I appreciate your comments. Total third quarter 2025 sales of $456.2 million were unchanged year-over-year as strength in defense and space was offset by commercial aerospace destocking. By market, commercial aerospace third quarter 2025 sales were $274.2 million, representing approximately 60% of total third quarter sales. Third quarter commercial aerospace sales decreased 7.3% compared to the third quarter of 2024. While the third quarter is seasonally slower due to summer holidays taken by our customers, 2025 third quarter sales were also impacted by destocking. The A350 program was most impacted, followed by the 787. Sales for the 737 MAX program continue to lag stated Boeing build rates as we expected, though we did see positive progress in the third quarter. For the A320, third quarter 2025 sales increased nominally compared to the prior year period. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:18:09Sales for other commercial aerospace in the third quarter increased 9.3% year-over-year, led by regional jets. Defense, space, and other represented approximately 40% of third quarter sales and totaled $182 million, increasing 11.7% on a constant currency basis from the same period in 2024. Demand was strong across a number of fighter, helicopter, and space programs, both domestically and overseas. For fighters, sales increased for the F-35, the Rafale, and the Eurofighter. For helicopters, European demand was strong, along with the Blackhawk, including replacement helicopter blades. It was a solid quarter for space sales, including launchers, rocket motors, and satellites. Gross margin of 21.9% in the third quarter of 2025 decreased from 23.3% in the third quarter of 2024 as sales mix, tariffs, and inventory reduction actions negatively impacted operating leverage. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:19:19The lower third quarter sales from seasonality and destocking magnified the underutilization of carbon fiber assets, pressuring margins. As our customers increase production rates, higher sales levels in 2026 and beyond will drive strong operating leverage and lead to margin expansion. Higher sales levels are critical for us to return to mid-teens margins. As mentioned above, tariffs are also a headwind. We continue to work on mitigation actions and continue to monitor this dynamic regulatory environment. As a percentage of sales, selling, general, and administrative expenses, and R&D expenses were 12.1% in the third quarter of 2025 compared to 11.7% in the comparable prior year period. Financial and manufacturing IT system upgrades, which we have mentioned previously, along with the impact of wage inflation, contributed to higher operating expenses as a percentage of sales. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:20:27Other operating expenses totaled $8.8 million in the third quarter of 2025, including charges for the divestment of the Neumarkt, Austria, industrial business and the closure of the Belgium facility. Adjusted operating income in the third quarter was $44.8 million, or 9.8% of sales, compared to $52.9 million, or 11.6% of sales in the comparable prior year period. Foreign exchange has been a consistent tailwind to margins for an extended period of time as Hexcel benefits when the dollar is strong. We hedge our operating profit over a 10-quarter time horizon, so foreign exchange gains and losses are layered into the financial results over time. This foreign exchange tailwind is now beginning to switch to a headwind as the impact of a weaker dollar begins to work into the business. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:21:27While our third quarter top line benefited to a modest degree from the dollar weakness, particularly from our European military sales denominated in local currency, the operating margin was negatively impacted by approximately 10 basis points. Now turning to our two segments, the composite materials segment represented 80% of total third quarter sales and generated an adjusted operating margin of 11.2%. This compares to an adjusted operating margin of 14.5% in the prior year period. The engineered products segment, which is comprised of our structures and engineered core businesses, represented 20% of total sales and generated an adjusted operating margin of 15.5%. This compares to an adjusted operating margin of 11.5% in the prior year period. Net cash provided by operating activities in the first nine months of 2025 was $105 million, compared to net cash provided of $127.3 million in the first nine months of 2024. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:22:38Working capital was a cash use of $63.8 million in the first nine months of 2025, compared to a cash use of $93.1 million in the first nine months of 2024. Capital expenditures on an accrual basis were $49.9 million in the first nine months of 2025, compared to $59.6 million in the comparable prior year period. Free cash flow in the first nine months of 2025 was $49.9 million, which compares to $58.9 million in the first nine months of 2024. Adjusted EBITDA totaled $249.2 million in the first nine months of 2025, compared to $291.3 million in 2024. As Tom explained, we are executing a $350 million accelerated share repurchase program, or ASR. We will fund this repurchase using our revolver. This action will result in leverage temporarily being over our targeted range of 1.5x-2x. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:23:50We will utilize subsequent cash generation to repay the revolver and return to our targeted leverage range over the coming quarters. Following the board stock repurchase authorization of $600 million, and after this ASR is concluded, the remaining authorization under the share repurchase program will be approximately $384 million. Hexcel did not repurchase any stock during the third quarter of 2025. I want to reiterate we remain committed to a disciplined financial policy and to returning leverage to the targeted range of 1.5x-2x as soon as possible during 2026. The Board of Directors declared a $0.17 quarterly dividend yesterday. The dividend is payable to stockholders of record as of November 3rd, with a payment date of November 10. We have revised our 2025 guidance, as Tom explained. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:24:55To share some additional color, operating leverage within the business is strong on rising sales, but conversely is a headwind on softer sales, which we are now forecasting for the fourth quarter of 2025. Our reduced EPS guidance reflects the impact of lower production as we work through some lingering destocking in the fourth quarter and our continued focus on inventory levels. Further, we have now incorporated tariffs into our guidance. Finally, the revised earnings guidance includes the impact of higher interest expense in the fourth quarter from revolver borrowings to execute the ASR. We continue to assume an underlying effective tax rate of 21% for the fourth quarter of 2025. Given some discrete adjustments in the first nine months of 2025, we expect the average adjusted ETR for the full year 2025 to be lower than 21%. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:25:58We continue to forecast a tariff impact of $3 million-$4 million per quarter. However, the tariff situation remains uncertain. Our regional sourcing helps to insulate us from the direct impact of tariffs, and over time, we will continue to work on mitigation and pass-throughs. I would also like to highlight that the divested Neumarkt, Austria industrial business generated just under $10 million of sales per quarter in the first three quarters of 2025. The divestment occurred on September 30th, so there will not be any sales from the Austrian business in the fourth quarter of 2025 or going forward. The niche value-add industrial markets that we will continue to serve will be supported by existing Hexcel aerospace facilities using existing aerospace assets. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:26:54When we first issued guidance in January 2025, we had forecasted 2025 sales for the commercial aerospace market to be flat and for sales for the defense, space, and other markets to be flat. As the year has progressed, commercial aerospace has been weaker than initially forecasted due to anticipated destocking, particularly on the A350. Conversely, defense and space has been stronger. As a result, we are revisiting these percentages. 2025 commercial aerospace sales are now forecasted to be down mid to upper single digits, and defense, space, and other sales are now forecasted to be higher by mid to upper single digits on a percentage basis. Consistent with past practice, we provide annual guidance during our fourth quarter and full year earnings call. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:27:51To reemphasize what Tom already covered, we expect to exit 2025 strongly positioned for growth as we anticipate being generally aligned with our commercial aerospace customer build rates. Sales growth will drive operating leverage and margin expansion in 2026 and beyond, supported by continuing price realization, productivity gains, and cost control. Lastly, as I close out my 33rd and final earnings call for Hexcel, I would like to take a couple of moments to express my sincere gratitude to this great company. Companies, as we all know, are ultimately a collection of people aligning to achieve a common goal. I have been honored to work with so many wonderful people over my 27 years. I cannot thank them enough. I now look forward to joining Howmet and starting what I believe will be an incredible new journey. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:28:50However, I know for certain I will never forget my amazing colleagues at Hexcel. With that, let me turn the call back to Tom. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:28:59Thanks, Patrick. To close, while the third quarter reflected near-term headwinds, the strong term fundamentals for Hexcel remain exceptionally strong. The commercial aerospace backlog is at historic levels, defense spending continues to rise globally, and the aerospace and defense supply chain is finally ramping to support build rate increases. Hexcel is uniquely positioned to capitalize on this momentum. Our unmatched portfolio, deep customer relationships, and global manufacturing footprint give us confidence in our ability to deliver accelerating growth over the coming years. We expect to generate over $1 billion in cumulative free cash flow over the next four years. That cash flow will support continued investment in innovation, and we will continue to evaluate returning cash to stockholders, as demonstrated by the new share repurchase authorization of $600 million and the $350 million ASR that we just announced. We believe the recovery in build rates is real and sustainable. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:29:56Hexcel is ready to meet that demand and deliver long-term value for our stakeholders. Tiffany, we're now ready to take questions. Operator00:30:04At this time, if you would like to ask a question, press star and the number one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, simply press star one again. We kindly ask that you limit your questions to one and one follow-up for today's call. We will pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Myles Walton with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead. Myles WaltonManaging Director at Wolfe Research00:30:35All right. Thanks. Good morning. Congratulations, Patrick, on the move. Good luck on the search, Tom. In the context of the $500 million growth that you're looking for at manufacturer production rates, Tom, can you talk about, I think that implies maybe $1 billion of Airbus revenue out in that timeframe. How much of that should it be, or how much higher should that be if you actually had contracts that allowed for inflationary pricing to have escalated during the last decade? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:31:11The good thing about the Airbus contract that we signed in 2008 for the A350 is that it was a long-term contract, and it gave us the confidence and foundation to make massive capital investments to industrialize for the A350. We extended that contract in 2016 to go all the way out to 2030. As you know, the production rates ramped very quickly up through 2018, 2019. They peaked. We delivered 112 A350s in 2019, and our overall revenue that year was $2.355 billion, and the margins were 18%. Since that time, the pandemic hit, volume dropped quite a bit, and we also experienced a lot of inflation. Where we are today, we're not getting volume leverage across the board, and we've absorbed a lot of that inflation on some of our long-term contracts, particularly with Airbus. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:32:06When we get back to the $2.35 billion of revenue, probably sometime in the next couple of years, our margins are going to be a little bit curtailed. They'll be at about 16%. About 200 basis points of headwind from the inflation is really what the impact is. When we get the full impact of the $500 million from all of the targets across the major programs, we think that'll get us back to 18%. Obviously, we would like to do more than that, and that's why we're driving our productivity project. To summarize, the impact of the inflation that we've absorbed over the past couple of years is about 200 basis points, and we're working to offset that. Myles WaltonManaging Director at Wolfe Research00:32:45Okay. Patrick, one financial one for you. The debt or interest costs we should plan on for 2026, in light of the ASR, is it close to $50 million or so? Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:32:58Did you say 5? I mean, it should be a lot less than that. The debt will decrease quite rapidly after the first quarter. The first quarter will probably be a cash usage, which is normal, but we should see the debt coming down quickly as we generate free cash flow next year. You can assume the revolver, about 5.5% interest rate, as that balance reduces through next year. Myles WaltonManaging Director at Wolfe Research00:33:24Okay, thank you. Operator00:33:27Your next question comes from the line of Michael Ciarmoli with Truist Securities. Please go ahead. Michael CiarmoliManaging Director of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Truist Securities00:33:34Hey. Morning guys. Thanks for taking the question. Maybe just to stay on both of those topics, Tom, I think you said getting back to that 18%. Is it reasonable to think that, you know, incremental margins can be in that, you know, I guess, implied 40%+ range to get back to that 18%? Is there going to be any disruption with labor add-backs, or do you think you have more confidence in pricing along the way with, you know, I think you said 10%-15% of these contracts renew, and you probably have that bigger renewal out in 2030 with Airbus. Is that the right way to think about incrementals? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:34:19Yes. I mean, the way I would say it summarized is that as the volumes increase and as our revenue goes up, we're going to get a lot of operating leverage, and we're not going to have to make a lot of capital investment to get there. You always have to offset various things, inflation and productivity and potentially other costs like utilities or logistics, but that's what your productivity programs have to offset. The biggest driver for Hexcel is that as production rates increase and our revenues go up, that drives an incredible amount of operating leverage, which will create the enhanced margins and the recovery back to the 16% first and then 18% as we get the full impact of all the target rate productions across the major programs. Michael CiarmoliManaging Director of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Truist Securities00:35:06Okay. On the ASR, maybe a little bit of dilution out of the gate, but it sounds like that should be paid down. If you're carrying a portion of that interest expense here in 4Q, maybe a full $5 million in 1Q and 2Q, but then you're obviously going to have the cash generation. That should kind of eliminate some of that interest headwind and shouldn't really be dilutive on a full-year basis for 2026? Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:35:39It should be positive on a full-year basis. We'll take out 80% of the share count basically tomorrow or Monday when those 80% of our shares are surrendered. You'll have two-thirds, two months out of three this quarter will benefit from that reduced stock count of, what, four, four and a half million shares, I would guess. You'll have that benefit offset by the interest charge next year. I would assume there would be a net benefit to 2026 overall as the debt gets paid down quickly. Michael CiarmoliManaging Director of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Truist Securities00:36:16Okay. Perfect. Thanks, guys. I'll jump back in the queue here. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:36:20Thanks. Operator00:36:21Your next question comes from the line of Gavin Parsons with UBS. Please go ahead. Gavin ParsonsDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at UBS00:36:28Thank you. Good morning. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:36:30Morning. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:36:30Morning. Gavin ParsonsDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at UBS00:36:32I guess just following up on the margin question, in 2026, if commercial aero revenue is higher than it was in 2024, can margins also be higher? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:36:45They can, yes. We have work to do to offset some of the natural inflation that we see normally, but that's certainly the goal. Gavin ParsonsDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at UBS00:36:54Okay. Tom, I guess as you plan for 2026, obviously the supply chain has been pretty lumpy. A350 increases have been set back. How do you think about possible contingencies if destocking does continue longer than you expect? Maybe it's not as operationally disruptive to Hexcel as it was this year. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:37:13What we've been doing is lagging a little bit more in terms of the demand, waiting to see it materialize before we go ahead and hire the heads. We will continue to do that. We have a lot of inventory, so we can cushion any potential unexpected increase in the short term. That is really the primary way we've been managing it and cushioning it: one is set realistic expectations, lag the growth in terms of when we actually hire, and use our inventory to make sure we have a proper cushion for any unexpected demand. Gavin ParsonsDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at UBS00:37:47Great. Thank you. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:37:48Thank you. Operator00:37:50Your next question comes from the line of Scott Mikus with Melius Research. Please go ahead. Scott MikusVP of Equity Research at Melius Research00:37:57Morning, Tom and Patrick. Patrick, congrats. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:38:00Thanks, Scott. Scott MikusVP of Equity Research at Melius Research00:38:03Tom, you referenced the LTA negotiations, and historically, your LTAs have included language where some of the productivity benefits are shared between Hexcel and its customer. As those agreements come up for renegotiation, are you making sure that you get to keep a larger share of the productivity benefits going forward? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:38:23We always want to keep as much as we can, that's for sure. At the same time, you've got to make sure any negotiation ends up being a win-win. A lot of the productivity projects that we drive do require engineering resources from our customers, and you want to make sure you can obtain those resources. Yes, the goal is always to make sure we get a fair return on the investments that we make and the value that we deliver, but also recognizing that we want to facilitate the fact that we need some help and engineering from our customers. Scott MikusVP of Equity Research at Melius Research00:38:59Okay. We've seen some airlines complain that the A321XLR's range is a little bit shorter than advertised, and they reduce their orders. Just given that your material reduces the weight of the aircraft, is there an opportunity for Hexcel to potentially increase its content on the A321XLR if Airbus were looking to extend its range? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:39:21Lightweight materials always help, and there's always an effort to look at material substitution and to change out higher weight materials for lower weight materials. Those efforts are ongoing. A lot of the ones, I'd say the low-hanging fruit has already been captured. There's probably limited opportunities to, frankly, change it on the existing aircraft, but a lot of opportunity on the next generation. The A321, all the versions, the 19, the 20, the 21, LR, XLR, etc., are only 15% carbon fiber composite. The A350 is 50%. The next generation narrowbody will for certainly be a much higher ratio of carbon fiber composite lightweight going forward. The current aircraft, probably most of the material substitution has already been captured. Scott MikusVP of Equity Research at Melius Research00:40:08All right. Got it. Thank you. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:40:10Welcome. Operator00:40:11Your next question comes from Ken Herbert with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Ken HerbertManaging Director at RBC Capital Markets00:40:19Yeah. Hi. Good morning. Thanks. Patrick, let me extend my congratulations as well, and thanks for the help over all the years. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:40:26Yeah, thank you. Ken HerbertManaging Director at RBC Capital Markets00:40:27Maybe the first question, Tom, last quarter you were pretty explicit in terms of expected delivery schedules on some major programs. It looks like the guidance maybe implies about five-ish A350 units were pushed out of the fourth quarter. Can you just talk about if we're thinking about that appropriately and specifically, maybe you know, you sound very confident in the exit rate on that program this year. Sort of where do you expect to be exiting this year as you think about that program? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:40:57Yeah. I think that's about right, Ken. What we're seeing is that Q4 is a little bit lighter than we thought. We only had about five aircraft per month full in Q3, and Airbus has gone to seven aircraft per month now. That change has been made, but it's not necessarily flowing all the way down yet. As a result, the orders for Q4 were a little bit lighter than we expected. That said, the orders going into 2026 are stronger than we expected. That, again, gives us confidence in this rate ramp really taking traction. Airbus is at seven now. They're supposed to go to eight sometime in the middle of the year and maybe even get to nine aircraft per month by the end of the year, which is the current schedule. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:41:41It was a little softer in Q4, but the orders going into 2026 are actually higher than we expected. That's very promising. Ken HerbertManaging Director at RBC Capital Markets00:41:51That's great. With the tariff impact, is there any opportunity to recapture, to call back some of those incremental costs at some point in the future? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:42:01Yes, there are. There's a couple of different provisions if the goods are for export or if the goods are for military use. There are lots of different areas that we can push and pull to try to recover, and we're doing that. It's just those are a little bit more longer term, and the impact, the dollars that we pay out are right now. That's been about $3 million or $4 million a quarter. We do hope to recover some of that as we go forward and, frankly, to shift some of our foreign supply to domestic sources to avoid the tariffs. Ken HerbertManaging Director at RBC Capital Markets00:42:32Great. Thank you very much. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:42:36Thank you. Operator00:42:36Your next question comes from John McNulty with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead. John McNultyManaging Direcor and Chemicals Analyst at BMO Capital Markets00:42:42Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Patrick, again, congratulations on the move. I was hoping you might be able to quantify or give us a little bit of an idea of how big you feel like that inventory cushion that you have actually is. Is it a couple of months? Is it a couple of quarters? As you're thinking about the ramp going into 2026, I'm just trying to get a better understanding of that cushion. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:43:13We've been running pretty high on inventory the last couple of quarters, over 100 days, north of $400 million total amount. That's down to about 90. Back in the 2018, 2019 time period, it was more like 70 days. We've got a 90-day cushion on inventory, but it should in kind of static terms and steady state be more like 70. That's the goal. That's where we are. We do have that inventory. We've been burning it down, and you saw some evidence of that in this quarter. By burning down some inventory, we had some absorption impact, and that impacted our margins a little bit. John McNultyManaging Direcor and Chemicals Analyst at BMO Capital Markets00:43:53Got it. Okay. Fair enough. I guess when you're thinking, at least as of now, about the ramp for your customers next year, how much in terms of labor will you have to be adding? It does sound like you've drawn it down a decent amount this year, and it almost feels like you're trying to thread a pretty small needle here with letting labor come down and only to basically rehire or hire next year. I guess can you help us to think about that? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:44:24Right. We're really right now starting some of the hiring in Europe in Q4 because we see this very high strong demand that has come in for 2026. We'll be hiring in the early part of 2026 and really throughout the year in order to align to production rates. You know we know how much labor we need for the production that's on the books, and we'll be hiring that. As I said, some of that hiring has actually started in Europe in Q4, and it will continue into the first part of 2026. John McNultyManaging Direcor and Chemicals Analyst at BMO Capital Markets00:44:58Got it. Thanks very much for the call. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:45:00Thank you. Operator00:45:01Your next question comes from the line of Pete Skibitski with Alembic Global. Please go ahead. Pete SkibitskiDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Alembic Global00:45:08Hey, good morning everyone. Congrats, Patrick. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:45:11Thank you. Pete SkibitskiDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Alembic Global00:45:12I guess maybe, Tom, you could talk more about space and defense, just the growth you've seen over the last two or three quarters. Does it feel like this is the start of kind of a, you know, this European secular defense spending trend, or are we not there yet? I was wondering, you know, should we expect a pretty big ramp on the CH-53K as well now that Lockheed got the full-rate production contract? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:45:38On Europe, honestly, we saw growth in Europe at European defense at about 18% for the quarter. That was very strong, and I think it is an indication that we're really seeing defense spending in Europe increase. Obviously, they had 1% of their GDP historically, and they've committed now to 5% going forward. There's going to be a massive ramp, and we've seen that with a lot of the companies in Europe. An example of a program is the Rafale program. It's been around a long time, but France has said that they are going to be increasing production of the Rafale in the coming years to meet the demand for European defense. We have a very big position on the Rafale, so that's going to bode well for Hexcel. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:46:19The answer to that is yes, European defense is growing, and we expect it to continue growing, and we're going to be doubling down on that. With regard to the CH-53K, this was probably a bit of a softer quarter, Q3, on the CH-53K, but you read that Lockheed signed a $10 billion deal with the Navy and the Marines to deliver 99 units that'll take it out to 2032. That is a great sign of confidence in the CH-53K program. We have a very large position on it, $2.5 million-$3.5 million per ship set, and we're very excited about that program, very excited about this multi-year deal that Lockheed and Sikorsky were able to sign with the Navy and the Marines. Pete SkibitskiDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Alembic Global00:47:05Hey, Tom, just to follow up, one more program, the F-35, just because Lockheed got the Lot 18 and 19 contracts definitized. Is that pretty steady state for you guys? I know it's a big program for you as well. Is that pretty steady state for you guys for a while? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:47:19It is. You know, they've been producing at about 156 aircraft per year. I think this year they might do 170 to catch up a little bit, but in general, 156 is a good steady state amount, and that'll go for years and years to come. What we will see is a little bit of an uptick on sustainment. Some of the materials that we make for the F-35 are consumable based on usage and flight legs. As the fleet grows and they fly more, that'll drive a little bit more of that material sales for us. Pete SkibitskiDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Alembic Global00:47:50Great. Thank you. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:47:51Thank you. Operator00:47:53Your next question comes from the line of Sheila Kahyaoglu with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Sheila KahyaogluManaging Director at Jefferies00:47:59Good morning, Tom and Patrick. Patrick, congratulations, and Tom, good luck. Tom, if I could ask you on the first question Myles asked, going back to that, just the $1 billion of free cash flow over the next four years on an additional $500 million in revenue, assuming that 35% incremental historically holds, it still assumes some working capital left. Can you maybe talk about how we should think about inventory unwind from here? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:48:29The goal is to continue to drive it down. We've been running heavy on inventory because sales have been lower, and we produced, and we're managing that now a lot more tightly. The goal is we're, you know, call it 90, 95 days of receivables on hand, and the goal is to drive that down into 70. That's more of a steady state for us. We can do better. We will, but that's the target right now on inventory. We will be winding inventory down in the coming quarters. Sheila KahyaogluManaging Director at Jefferies00:49:01Got it. If I could just ask on the margin commentary for 2025, I know you didn't have a direct margin guidance, but as we think about the implied margins, it seemed like they're down 100 basis points versus the prior guide, and the tariffs were about 60. What could you attribute the remainder of that to? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:49:25A little bit of it was this inventory drawdown, which is absorption for us. As we don't produce and take out of inventory, that creates some pressure on our operating expense. That was part of it. We also, as we've mentioned in previous calls, have been investing in a new ERP system, Microsoft D365, and the implementation of that is a little bit of a hang. Just the lower volume in general because of the destocking and some mix changes, and kind of the combination of all that is what weighed on the margins this quarter. Sheila KahyaogluManaging Director at Jefferies00:50:00Great. Thank you. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:50:02Thanks, Sheila. Operator00:50:03Your next question comes from the line of Gautam Khanna with TD Cowen. Please go ahead. Gautam KhannaAnalyst at TD Cowen00:50:11Thanks, and congrats, Patrick. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:50:13Thanks, Gautam. Gautam KhannaAnalyst at TD Cowen00:50:16Guys, I may have missed it, but can you update us on what the A350 equivalent shipments are expected to be this year? Previously, I think you were saying low 60s, and I just want to make sure I understood what happened in Q3. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:50:30I think 60 is the right number. You know, we started off much higher. Our original plan was 84, and that dropped after the first quarter to 68, and we're saying about 60 right now. Gautam KhannaAnalyst at TD Cowen00:50:43Given what you know now about 2026 equivalents, would be your best guess? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:50:52I'd say in the 80 range. Gautam KhannaAnalyst at TD Cowen00:50:54Okay. To your point, you already have kind of capacity, labor, etc., to meet that rate. In theory, the incrementals next year could even be, I know you answered the question on 40%, but could they even be higher given the absorption? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:51:12You always have other factors that you have to offset, but there's no doubt that as those production rates, particularly on the A350, go up, we get better operating leverage, and that drives higher margins. Gautam KhannaAnalyst at TD Cowen00:51:24Last question just on tariffs. Previously, I think you said $3 million-$4 million a quarter, and I just wanted to know what is in the 2025 guide, aggregate tariff headwind. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:51:35Yeah, that's what we've incorporated into the updated guidance, is that amount. Gautam KhannaAnalyst at TD Cowen00:51:41Is that for three quarters or for two? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:51:44Yeah, right. If you look at it, basically, it's about $0.10 of EPS. We dropped our midpoint on EPS from $1.95 -$1.75. From $1.95-$1.75, and the $0.10 of that was based on the tariffs. Gautam KhannaAnalyst at TD Cowen00:52:09Thanks a lot, guys. Appreciate it. Operator00:52:12Your next question comes from the line of Noah Popanek with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Noah PoponakResearch Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:52:19Good morning everyone. Patrick, let me add my thanks for all your help over the years. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:52:24Thanks, Noah. Noah PoponakResearch Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:52:27If I look at consensus right now, it has total company revenue up 12% full year 2026 versus 2025. Is that kind of growth directionally achievable, or does the aerospace new build destock last long enough into 2026 to make that look steep? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:52:50It probably looks a little bit steep. I don't think we're confident that we've reached the inflection point and it's going up, but I don't think we want to overcall it. I think we want to be conservative in terms of what that outlook is. It's definitely going up, and it'll be a healthy increase, but 12% is a little aggressive. We'll see where we end up. I think we'll also be conservative in our outlook of what we plan for and build and wait and see the increases happen before we get too far out in front of it. Noah PoponakResearch Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:53:24Okay. That makes sense. Tom, at a high level, if I look across the aerospace supply chain and I take the 2025 operating margin versus the pre-pandemic, the 2019, there aren't that many suppliers that are down. A lot are similar and a lot are up considerably. Hexcel is down. What do you attribute that to? I know you have some pretty significant contract renegotiations over the next few years. Are there things you're looking to change in your contract terms with your customers to improve the profitability protection in the case of downturns and industry disruptions? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:54:16First of all, let me answer the first question. The reason our margins are down and maybe others in the industry aren't down is we are mostly original equipment and others have more aftermarket. If you look at the industry, air traffic dropped 96% in April 2020, and it recovered fully within four years. Production peaked in 2018 at 1,734 units. Last year, we were only at 1,230 units. It's only 75%. While air traffic increased, production didn't. Probably 3,600 aircraft that should have been built in that period weren't built. That meant that the fleets were older and people had to spend a lot more on aftermarket. Anybody who's had aftermarket exposure has done extremely well. For better or worse, Hexcel makes material that goes into structures that don't wear and don't have a lot of aftermarket. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:55:08The fact that we are so heavily tilted toward original equipment for commercial aerospace and that production is only 75% recovered, and by the way, only 50% recovered on wide bodies, explains why our margins are still down and others are higher because they have this great aftermarket exposure. As the production rates increase, we will get huge amounts of operating leverage. That's why the next four or five years for Hexcel are going to be absolutely great because we're going to benefit from the $500 million of incremental annual revenue and the increased cash flow that that will generate. That's what I would say. Noah PoponakResearch Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:55:46Appreciate it. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:55:47In terms of the contracts, yes, the contracts as we go forward, first of all, they won't be longer. You know, a 22-year contract is not what we're going to be looking for. We'll also have more tiered to volume. As volume goes up and volume goes down, the price will change. We'll probably also look at more pass-throughs on costs that we can't necessarily control, some of our resins or chemicals and products like that. The contracts will be more sophisticated to reflect a more dynamic environment that we face today that we didn't face back in 2008. Noah PoponakResearch Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:56:23Appreciate all the detail. Thank you. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:56:25Thanks, Noah. Operator00:56:28Your final question comes from Scott Deuschle with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead. Scott DeuschleDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Deutsche Bank00:56:34Hey, good morning. Tom, just to clarify your response to Ken's question, do you expect to enter 2026 at seven a month on the A350? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:56:41Yes, we do. There is a little bit of destocking in the fourth quarter, but they'll have a couple of months under their belt at seven, and we expect to enter 2026 at seven, going to eight, and possibly nine by the end of the year. Scott DeuschleDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Deutsche Bank00:56:55Okay. Patrick, can you offer any quantification as to what that FX headwind that you flagged in your prepared remarks could look like going forward? I'd imagine it's fairly immaterial, but just want to check on that. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:57:06It was very immaterial really in the fourth quarter, just 10 basis points as I called out. The hedging mechanism that we have in place and have had in place for many years smooths the peaks and the troughs. We are at this cusp of a turning point from a strong dollar to a weaker dollar, so into a slight headwind now into 2026. Again, I wouldn't overstate it, 10, 20, 30 basis points maybe in 2026, but it all depends on where the dollar now moves. Scott DeuschleDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Deutsche Bank00:57:34Okay. One last question, if I could. Tom, if you see value in the stock today, just trying to understand why you didn't buy back any in the third quarter when the stock price was 20% lower than it is right now. It would have been a good amount. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:57:46We did a $352 million ASR. I think that's my response. Scott DeuschleDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Deutsche Bank00:57:52Okay. All right. Thank you. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:57:55Thank you. Operator00:57:56We have time for one more question from Richard Safran with Seaport Research Partners. Please go ahead. Richard SafranManaging Director of Aerospace and Defense at Seaport Research Partners00:58:04Thanks, Tom. Tom, good morning. Patrick, wish you all the best. It's been a pleasure. Listen, Tom, I know you're coming off of facilities in Austria, Hartford, and Belgium. I was just wondering if you're contemplating any further changes in the portfolio? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:58:20We are always looking at the portfolio to figure out how to streamline and optimize it. There could be a few more things that we do. These were the big ones, but that's an ongoing part of our normal operating cadence. We are going to continue to look at that and figure out how do we optimize so that we get the best cost and make sure we're focused on the strategic priorities. The number one priority for us in the next few years is making sure we can ramp up to meet the production rate increases for our customers, the safety, quality, and delivery. That's our number one priority. We will continue to optimize the portfolio to help achieve that. Richard SafranManaging Director of Aerospace and Defense at Seaport Research Partners00:58:55Okay. On the just quickly on the buyback, it was just accelerated buyback. I just wondered what drove the change in capital deployment strategy. It seems a bit out of character. Should we take that in the future, you're going to do more of these with the $1 billion you're anticipating over the next four years? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:59:16The answer to that is yes. We'll continue to look at that, and it will be a top priority. I think what changed is a couple of things. One is we're looking at the market, and the market clearly is at an inflection point, and the rates are going up. We now have great confidence in that. Secondly, as I mentioned, you know our capital deployment strategy has always been fund productivity, fund R&D to get on the next generation of products, fund organic growth, and then look at inorganic growth. We looked hard. We did a very comprehensive search. We didn't see anything out there that met our strategic priorities or our return thresholds. We said we've got all this excess cash that's coming. The best investment in aerospace right now is Hexcel, so that's where we put our money. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:59:55That's why we did the ASR, and that's why we made the reauthorization as big as it is so that we could do more in the future once we pay this one down and get back to our target leverage ratios. Richard SafranManaging Director of Aerospace and Defense at Seaport Research Partners01:00:06Thanks very much. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation01:00:07Thank you. Operator01:00:09Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the Hexcel third quarter earnings call. Thank you all for joining. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Hello, and thank you for standing by. My name is Tiffany, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Hexcel third quarter earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during that time, simply press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. I would now like to turn the call over to Kurt Goddard, Vice President of Investor Relations. Sir, please go ahead. Kurt GoddardVP of Investor Relations at Hexcel Corporation00:00:40Hello everyone. Welcome to Hexcel Corporation's third quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Before beginning, let me cover the formalities. I would like to remind everyone about the safe harbor provisions related to any forward-looking statements we may make during the course of this call. Certain statements contained in this call may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. They involve estimates, assumptions, judgments, and uncertainties caused by a variety of factors that could cause future actual results or outcomes to differ materially from our forward-looking statements today. Such factors are detailed in the company's SEC filings and earnings release. A replay of this call will be available on the Investor Relations page of our website. Lastly, this call is being recorded by Hexcel Corporation and is copyrighted material. It cannot be recorded or rebroadcast without our express permission. Kurt GoddardVP of Investor Relations at Hexcel Corporation00:01:40Your participation on this call constitutes your consent to that request. With me today are Tom Gentile, our CEO and Chairman and President, and Patrick Winterlich, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. The purpose of the call is to review our third quarter 2025 results detailed in our news release issued yesterday. Now let me turn the call over to Tom. Tom? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:02:05Thanks, Kurt. Hello everyone, and thank you for joining us today for Hexcel's third quarter 2025 earnings call. Our confidence in the growth outlook in the aerospace and defense markets and Hexcel's unique position within the industry remains strong. With Hexcel's broad portfolio of advanced, innovative lightweight materials, we are well positioned to meet the needs of our customers as they increase commercial and military aircraft and rotorcraft production rates. We are also working with customers on developing innovative advanced material solutions for next-generation commercial and military platforms. As we look at the opportunities in front of us, the outlook for Hexcel is compelling. At our September board meeting, which centered on strategy, we reinforced our strategic focus of advanced material science with an emphasis on the aerospace and defense market. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:02:52This is our North Star as we navigate a dynamic near-term environment and look to take advantage of the medium and longer-term opportunities in the aerospace and defense industry. The aerospace recovery from the pandemic has been frustratingly slow, with numerous start stops for original equipment suppliers like Hexcel. However, we have growing confidence that we are seeing the beginnings of a more sustained ramp-up in production based on our customer discussions and actions, as well as what we see in the aerospace supply chain. The demand for fuel-efficient, lightweight aircraft is clear. Air traffic has more than recovered to 2019 levels. The backlog for commercial aircraft has grown from 13,000 units before the pandemic to more than 15,000 today. Even with limited availability of near-term production slots, airlines around the world continue to place orders with Airbus and Boeing. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:03:42As we look at the macro environment for the commercial aerospace industry, we are clearly seeing growing momentum as past supply chain constraints subside. While we may experience some lingering destocking in the fourth quarter of 2025, we expect to exit 2025 fully aligned with the commercial aircraft build rates of our customers and positioned for growth in 2026 and beyond. Positive news developments in the past few weeks further support the rate ramps for each of our key platforms. Beginning with the A350, our largest program where we provide the entire lightweight material system, anticipated production rate increases by Airbus will be impactful for Hexcel in terms of driving capacity utilization. Airbus is targeting 12 aircraft per month by 2028 on the A350 program. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:04:30Rising build rates will drive operating leverage for Hexcel, and the EU approval last week that allows for the Spirit AeroSystems merger to move forward is another positive data point as those operations become streamlined into Airbus and Boeing. On the A320, Airbus is targeting 75 planes per month by 2027, with the expectation that build rates will be in the 60s in 2026. GE Aerospace just raised their 2025 LEAP delivery guidance for engines, and Safran just announced a new LEAP-1A engine assembly line in Morocco to support Airbus and the A320 program, and that should be operational by the end of 2027. On the 737 MAX, production has reached 38 airplanes per month, and Boeing recently received FAA approval to increase to 42 airplanes per month. On the 787, Boeing is now at seven a month as they target 10 aircraft per month in 2026. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:05:26Boeing is currently expanding its 787 production capacity in their Charleston facility, so there may be future upside beyond rate 10. We visited Charleston recently and saw the construction underway. All of these different signs of improving production system stability in the four major programs for both Airbus and Boeing give me and our board increasing confidence that their production targets are now getting traction. This growing confidence, coupled with actions that we have taken to clean up our portfolio, including the divestiture of our plant in Austria, will help us approach the margin levels we enjoyed in the past as production rates increase and drive operating leverage for Hexcel. We are clearly at the start of a multi-year growth cycle for commercial aerospace original equipment production, which will benefit Hexcel, given the strong positions that we have on all the major programs. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:06:17Turning to our financial results, Hexcel generated $456 million in sales and adjusted diluted EPS of $0.37 in the third quarter of 2025. These results are in line with our expectations for the quarter, which we knew in advance would be challenging due to slower seasonal sales and continued destocking by the commercial OEMs. Hexcel's gross margin for the third quarter was 21.9% compared to 23.3% in the third quarter of 2024. This was partly driven by tariffs and our decision to reduce finished goods inventory in the quarter, which impacted operating leverage and margins. As build rates rise into 2026, that increased sales volume will drive operating leverage and margin expansion. Regarding our markets, commercial aerospace sales were $274.2 million for the third quarter. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:07:08Commercial aerospace declined 7.3% year-over-year on a constant currency basis, primarily due to destocking on the Airbus A350 program and to a lesser extent on the Boeing 787 platform. That lower volume was partially offset by a 9.3% increase in other commercial aerospace sales driven by regional jet sales growth. Looking ahead to 2026, Hexcel is already seeing increased order activity for the first half of next year from the commercial OEMs, which supports our growing confidence. We experienced continued strength in our defense, space, and other segment with $182 million in sales for the third quarter, an increase of 11.7% on a constant currency basis over the same period last year. This growth was brought across several platforms for domestic and international customers that include fighters, rotorcraft, and space. As defense budgets in the U.S. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:08:02and with allied countries around the globe continue to increase, particularly to support the introduction of new platforms, we see continued strength in the underlying demand for Hexcel's advanced lightweight composite materials. Our innovative solutions enable greater range and payload, as well as lower observability for stealth platforms. In August, we were honored to host the U.S. Secretary of Labor, Laurie Chavez-DeRemer, at our Salt Lake City facility. This is our largest global facility. We produce both carbon fiber and prepreg at this facility, and the site also hosts our newest research and technology center of excellence. This visit was an opportunity to highlight Hexcel's critical role as the only vertically integrated U.S.-domiciled manufacturer of high-strength aerospace-grade composite materials for commercial aircraft and defense platforms. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:08:52It was also an opportunity to showcase our innovation as we develop and deliver even lighter, stronger, and stiffer composite solutions that are designed to support high production volumes by our customers. Our innovation is a mix of evolutionary steps by improving upon existing products, such as enhancing the adhesion characteristics of the carbon fiber surface, and revolutionary steps such as new resin systems that cure more quickly and at lower temperature to enable greater throughput by our customers. While we see commercial aerospace production rates starting to rise in the fourth quarter and into 2026, we still expect lingering OEM destocking in Q4. Tariffs also remain a headwind. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:09:34As we look at how the year may close out, we have narrowed our sales expectation to the bottom of the prior range, and we have reduced EPS guidance due to the impact of lower production from lingering destocking and the incorporation of tariffs into our guidance. We have also continued our cost reduction actions as we streamline operations through site rationalization. At the end of September, we completed the divestiture of our Neumarkt, Austria plant, which supplied wind energy and recreational markets using third-party purchased glass and industrial carbon fibers. This action follows the closure of a high-cost facility in Belgium and the divestiture of an additive manufacturing business that was not strategic for Hexcel earlier this year. These actions are part of our broader strategy to focus our operations and reduce our cost profile as we prepare for the upcoming production rate increases in our major programs. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:10:27As we have throughout this year, we continue to manage headcount closely. In previous calls, we stated that our headcount at the end of 2025 will be no higher than it was at the end of 2024. Our headcount has continued to decrease this year due to attrition and streamlining our operational footprints, as well as lagging production schedules until we see clear evidence of increases. At the end of the third quarter of 2025, our headcount was around the levels of year-end 2023 and well below where we ended 2024. Our inventory acts as a near-term buffer for unexpected demand spikes, and we expect to begin hiring again sometime in early 2026. We are comfortable that we will be able to attract and train the workers we will need. We do not ever intend to be a bottleneck for our customers' production. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:11:15In addition to our cost reduction actions, we continue to drive productivity. This includes our future factory program to drive greater unit cost efficiency with more use of automation, digitalization, robotics, and artificial intelligence. Along with cost and productivity gains, we will continue to work to realize price. As we have shared before, about 10%-15% of our contracts come up for renewal annually. As we negotiate new contracts, we are realizing price gains and expanding escalation and pass-through clauses. Once publicly disclosed peak build rates are reached, our existing sole source contracts with Airbus and Boeing will generate an incremental $500 million of annual revenue. Defense-based business and regional jets are all additive to that number, so the path to sales growth is very clear. The increasing sales drive operating leverage and margin expansion for Hexcel. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:12:10As we grow back into existing capacity, capital expenditures will remain subdued for a period of time at less than $100 million per year, likely for the rest of this decade. These factors will all drive strong free cash flow generation. We are forecasting to cumulatively generate more than $1 billion of free cash flow over the next four-year period of 2025 to 2028. With the forecasted production rates finally firming, our primary focus for the immediate future will be executing on the rate ramp, innovating lightweight materials to earn a position on the next generation of aircraft, and organically growing our defense business while returning excess cash to our stockholders. Given that the business is generating cash in excess of reinvestment needs, the Board and the management team spent a lot of time thinking about capital allocation. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:12:58In the past 18 months during my time as CEO, we have undertaken an extensive review of potential inorganic growth opportunities. We have not found any business that meets our stringent and disciplined strategic criteria for M&A, namely innovative advanced material science with an emphasis on aerospace and defense and a return threshold of 15% ROIC or greater. What we do see in front of us is unprecedented and pent-up demand for modern lightweight aircraft. This represents a tremendous organic growth opportunity for Hexcel. While OEM production schedules have been challenged for the past several years, we are seeing the OEMs increase production as the supply chain stabilizes. The individual catalysts for each major program that I mentioned earlier have helped remove obstacles to production rate increases. Hexcel is uniquely positioned in this market as the largest and most vertically integrated aerospace-grade carbon fiber composite manufacturer. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:13:58Our industry segment has significant barriers to entry given the large sums that we have invested in our material system and production facilities globally. We have industry-leading technology and intellectual property, and most importantly, we have our people, a highly trained and skilled workforce that we know can deliver on the rising demand in front of us with safety, quality, and the on-time delivery our customers expect. Our confidence is growing that the ongoing recovery in build rates is at an inflection point to a sustained ramp to peak rates, providing us greater optimism in our sales outlook and future cash generation. Given all these factors, strong cash generation profile driven by significant organic growth that provides us significant volume leverage combined with cost control and productivity to improve margins and an unmatched position in the marketplace, we believe now is the right time to repurchase Hexcel stock. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:14:53Since 2013, we have returned more than $1.5 billion to stockholders through share repurchases. In the past seven quarters, we have repurchased $350 million of shares and retired almost 6% of our flows. Yesterday, Hexcel's board of directors authorized an additional $600 million share repurchase program, and we also announced an accelerated share repurchase program, or ASR, of $350 million. We will fund the ASR from our revolver, which we will then repay from future cash generation. Launching this ASR now and making a significant repurchase of our stock underscores our strong belief in commercial aerospace production rate increases and our ability to execute with safety, quality, and on-time delivery to our customers. We are seeing resolution of major supply chain problems that have plagued the industry the past several years, and we see all the OEMs making solid progress on increasing their production rates. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:15:50I also want to be clear that we remain committed to a disciplined financial policy. We target a leverage ratio of 1.5x-2x debt/EBITDA. We plan to repay the ASR borrowings as soon as possible during 2026 to return Hexcel to this targeted leverage range. Now, before I turn the call over to Patrick to provide more details on the numbers, I want to comment on the 8-K we just filed, announcing that Patrick has accepted an offer to move over to Howmet, a much larger company than Hexcel. I am thrilled that Patrick has this opportunity to work with a company that plays such an important role in our industry. For 27 years, Patrick has been a transformational leader at Hexcel and has helped position our company to capture the opportunities I have described. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:16:34He has also been a terrific partner in helping me transition into my role at Hexcel over the last year and a half. We all wish him great success in his new role. Patrick has agreed to remain as our CFO during a transition period through the end of November, and we have already launched a process with a leading global executive search firm to recruit a world-class CFO to succeed him. With that, over to you, Patrick, for your final Hexcel call. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:16:57Thank you, Tom. I appreciate your comments. Total third quarter 2025 sales of $456.2 million were unchanged year-over-year as strength in defense and space was offset by commercial aerospace destocking. By market, commercial aerospace third quarter 2025 sales were $274.2 million, representing approximately 60% of total third quarter sales. Third quarter commercial aerospace sales decreased 7.3% compared to the third quarter of 2024. While the third quarter is seasonally slower due to summer holidays taken by our customers, 2025 third quarter sales were also impacted by destocking. The A350 program was most impacted, followed by the 787. Sales for the 737 MAX program continue to lag stated Boeing build rates as we expected, though we did see positive progress in the third quarter. For the A320, third quarter 2025 sales increased nominally compared to the prior year period. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:18:09Sales for other commercial aerospace in the third quarter increased 9.3% year-over-year, led by regional jets. Defense, space, and other represented approximately 40% of third quarter sales and totaled $182 million, increasing 11.7% on a constant currency basis from the same period in 2024. Demand was strong across a number of fighter, helicopter, and space programs, both domestically and overseas. For fighters, sales increased for the F-35, the Rafale, and the Eurofighter. For helicopters, European demand was strong, along with the Blackhawk, including replacement helicopter blades. It was a solid quarter for space sales, including launchers, rocket motors, and satellites. Gross margin of 21.9% in the third quarter of 2025 decreased from 23.3% in the third quarter of 2024 as sales mix, tariffs, and inventory reduction actions negatively impacted operating leverage. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:19:19The lower third quarter sales from seasonality and destocking magnified the underutilization of carbon fiber assets, pressuring margins. As our customers increase production rates, higher sales levels in 2026 and beyond will drive strong operating leverage and lead to margin expansion. Higher sales levels are critical for us to return to mid-teens margins. As mentioned above, tariffs are also a headwind. We continue to work on mitigation actions and continue to monitor this dynamic regulatory environment. As a percentage of sales, selling, general, and administrative expenses, and R&D expenses were 12.1% in the third quarter of 2025 compared to 11.7% in the comparable prior year period. Financial and manufacturing IT system upgrades, which we have mentioned previously, along with the impact of wage inflation, contributed to higher operating expenses as a percentage of sales. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:20:27Other operating expenses totaled $8.8 million in the third quarter of 2025, including charges for the divestment of the Neumarkt, Austria, industrial business and the closure of the Belgium facility. Adjusted operating income in the third quarter was $44.8 million, or 9.8% of sales, compared to $52.9 million, or 11.6% of sales in the comparable prior year period. Foreign exchange has been a consistent tailwind to margins for an extended period of time as Hexcel benefits when the dollar is strong. We hedge our operating profit over a 10-quarter time horizon, so foreign exchange gains and losses are layered into the financial results over time. This foreign exchange tailwind is now beginning to switch to a headwind as the impact of a weaker dollar begins to work into the business. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:21:27While our third quarter top line benefited to a modest degree from the dollar weakness, particularly from our European military sales denominated in local currency, the operating margin was negatively impacted by approximately 10 basis points. Now turning to our two segments, the composite materials segment represented 80% of total third quarter sales and generated an adjusted operating margin of 11.2%. This compares to an adjusted operating margin of 14.5% in the prior year period. The engineered products segment, which is comprised of our structures and engineered core businesses, represented 20% of total sales and generated an adjusted operating margin of 15.5%. This compares to an adjusted operating margin of 11.5% in the prior year period. Net cash provided by operating activities in the first nine months of 2025 was $105 million, compared to net cash provided of $127.3 million in the first nine months of 2024. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:22:38Working capital was a cash use of $63.8 million in the first nine months of 2025, compared to a cash use of $93.1 million in the first nine months of 2024. Capital expenditures on an accrual basis were $49.9 million in the first nine months of 2025, compared to $59.6 million in the comparable prior year period. Free cash flow in the first nine months of 2025 was $49.9 million, which compares to $58.9 million in the first nine months of 2024. Adjusted EBITDA totaled $249.2 million in the first nine months of 2025, compared to $291.3 million in 2024. As Tom explained, we are executing a $350 million accelerated share repurchase program, or ASR. We will fund this repurchase using our revolver. This action will result in leverage temporarily being over our targeted range of 1.5x-2x. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:23:50We will utilize subsequent cash generation to repay the revolver and return to our targeted leverage range over the coming quarters. Following the board stock repurchase authorization of $600 million, and after this ASR is concluded, the remaining authorization under the share repurchase program will be approximately $384 million. Hexcel did not repurchase any stock during the third quarter of 2025. I want to reiterate we remain committed to a disciplined financial policy and to returning leverage to the targeted range of 1.5x-2x as soon as possible during 2026. The Board of Directors declared a $0.17 quarterly dividend yesterday. The dividend is payable to stockholders of record as of November 3rd, with a payment date of November 10. We have revised our 2025 guidance, as Tom explained. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:24:55To share some additional color, operating leverage within the business is strong on rising sales, but conversely is a headwind on softer sales, which we are now forecasting for the fourth quarter of 2025. Our reduced EPS guidance reflects the impact of lower production as we work through some lingering destocking in the fourth quarter and our continued focus on inventory levels. Further, we have now incorporated tariffs into our guidance. Finally, the revised earnings guidance includes the impact of higher interest expense in the fourth quarter from revolver borrowings to execute the ASR. We continue to assume an underlying effective tax rate of 21% for the fourth quarter of 2025. Given some discrete adjustments in the first nine months of 2025, we expect the average adjusted ETR for the full year 2025 to be lower than 21%. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:25:58We continue to forecast a tariff impact of $3 million-$4 million per quarter. However, the tariff situation remains uncertain. Our regional sourcing helps to insulate us from the direct impact of tariffs, and over time, we will continue to work on mitigation and pass-throughs. I would also like to highlight that the divested Neumarkt, Austria industrial business generated just under $10 million of sales per quarter in the first three quarters of 2025. The divestment occurred on September 30th, so there will not be any sales from the Austrian business in the fourth quarter of 2025 or going forward. The niche value-add industrial markets that we will continue to serve will be supported by existing Hexcel aerospace facilities using existing aerospace assets. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:26:54When we first issued guidance in January 2025, we had forecasted 2025 sales for the commercial aerospace market to be flat and for sales for the defense, space, and other markets to be flat. As the year has progressed, commercial aerospace has been weaker than initially forecasted due to anticipated destocking, particularly on the A350. Conversely, defense and space has been stronger. As a result, we are revisiting these percentages. 2025 commercial aerospace sales are now forecasted to be down mid to upper single digits, and defense, space, and other sales are now forecasted to be higher by mid to upper single digits on a percentage basis. Consistent with past practice, we provide annual guidance during our fourth quarter and full year earnings call. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:27:51To reemphasize what Tom already covered, we expect to exit 2025 strongly positioned for growth as we anticipate being generally aligned with our commercial aerospace customer build rates. Sales growth will drive operating leverage and margin expansion in 2026 and beyond, supported by continuing price realization, productivity gains, and cost control. Lastly, as I close out my 33rd and final earnings call for Hexcel, I would like to take a couple of moments to express my sincere gratitude to this great company. Companies, as we all know, are ultimately a collection of people aligning to achieve a common goal. I have been honored to work with so many wonderful people over my 27 years. I cannot thank them enough. I now look forward to joining Howmet and starting what I believe will be an incredible new journey. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:28:50However, I know for certain I will never forget my amazing colleagues at Hexcel. With that, let me turn the call back to Tom. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:28:59Thanks, Patrick. To close, while the third quarter reflected near-term headwinds, the strong term fundamentals for Hexcel remain exceptionally strong. The commercial aerospace backlog is at historic levels, defense spending continues to rise globally, and the aerospace and defense supply chain is finally ramping to support build rate increases. Hexcel is uniquely positioned to capitalize on this momentum. Our unmatched portfolio, deep customer relationships, and global manufacturing footprint give us confidence in our ability to deliver accelerating growth over the coming years. We expect to generate over $1 billion in cumulative free cash flow over the next four years. That cash flow will support continued investment in innovation, and we will continue to evaluate returning cash to stockholders, as demonstrated by the new share repurchase authorization of $600 million and the $350 million ASR that we just announced. We believe the recovery in build rates is real and sustainable. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:29:56Hexcel is ready to meet that demand and deliver long-term value for our stakeholders. Tiffany, we're now ready to take questions. Operator00:30:04At this time, if you would like to ask a question, press star and the number one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, simply press star one again. We kindly ask that you limit your questions to one and one follow-up for today's call. We will pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Myles Walton with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead. Myles WaltonManaging Director at Wolfe Research00:30:35All right. Thanks. Good morning. Congratulations, Patrick, on the move. Good luck on the search, Tom. In the context of the $500 million growth that you're looking for at manufacturer production rates, Tom, can you talk about, I think that implies maybe $1 billion of Airbus revenue out in that timeframe. How much of that should it be, or how much higher should that be if you actually had contracts that allowed for inflationary pricing to have escalated during the last decade? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:31:11The good thing about the Airbus contract that we signed in 2008 for the A350 is that it was a long-term contract, and it gave us the confidence and foundation to make massive capital investments to industrialize for the A350. We extended that contract in 2016 to go all the way out to 2030. As you know, the production rates ramped very quickly up through 2018, 2019. They peaked. We delivered 112 A350s in 2019, and our overall revenue that year was $2.355 billion, and the margins were 18%. Since that time, the pandemic hit, volume dropped quite a bit, and we also experienced a lot of inflation. Where we are today, we're not getting volume leverage across the board, and we've absorbed a lot of that inflation on some of our long-term contracts, particularly with Airbus. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:32:06When we get back to the $2.35 billion of revenue, probably sometime in the next couple of years, our margins are going to be a little bit curtailed. They'll be at about 16%. About 200 basis points of headwind from the inflation is really what the impact is. When we get the full impact of the $500 million from all of the targets across the major programs, we think that'll get us back to 18%. Obviously, we would like to do more than that, and that's why we're driving our productivity project. To summarize, the impact of the inflation that we've absorbed over the past couple of years is about 200 basis points, and we're working to offset that. Myles WaltonManaging Director at Wolfe Research00:32:45Okay. Patrick, one financial one for you. The debt or interest costs we should plan on for 2026, in light of the ASR, is it close to $50 million or so? Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:32:58Did you say 5? I mean, it should be a lot less than that. The debt will decrease quite rapidly after the first quarter. The first quarter will probably be a cash usage, which is normal, but we should see the debt coming down quickly as we generate free cash flow next year. You can assume the revolver, about 5.5% interest rate, as that balance reduces through next year. Myles WaltonManaging Director at Wolfe Research00:33:24Okay, thank you. Operator00:33:27Your next question comes from the line of Michael Ciarmoli with Truist Securities. Please go ahead. Michael CiarmoliManaging Director of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Truist Securities00:33:34Hey. Morning guys. Thanks for taking the question. Maybe just to stay on both of those topics, Tom, I think you said getting back to that 18%. Is it reasonable to think that, you know, incremental margins can be in that, you know, I guess, implied 40%+ range to get back to that 18%? Is there going to be any disruption with labor add-backs, or do you think you have more confidence in pricing along the way with, you know, I think you said 10%-15% of these contracts renew, and you probably have that bigger renewal out in 2030 with Airbus. Is that the right way to think about incrementals? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:34:19Yes. I mean, the way I would say it summarized is that as the volumes increase and as our revenue goes up, we're going to get a lot of operating leverage, and we're not going to have to make a lot of capital investment to get there. You always have to offset various things, inflation and productivity and potentially other costs like utilities or logistics, but that's what your productivity programs have to offset. The biggest driver for Hexcel is that as production rates increase and our revenues go up, that drives an incredible amount of operating leverage, which will create the enhanced margins and the recovery back to the 16% first and then 18% as we get the full impact of all the target rate productions across the major programs. Michael CiarmoliManaging Director of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Truist Securities00:35:06Okay. On the ASR, maybe a little bit of dilution out of the gate, but it sounds like that should be paid down. If you're carrying a portion of that interest expense here in 4Q, maybe a full $5 million in 1Q and 2Q, but then you're obviously going to have the cash generation. That should kind of eliminate some of that interest headwind and shouldn't really be dilutive on a full-year basis for 2026? Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:35:39It should be positive on a full-year basis. We'll take out 80% of the share count basically tomorrow or Monday when those 80% of our shares are surrendered. You'll have two-thirds, two months out of three this quarter will benefit from that reduced stock count of, what, four, four and a half million shares, I would guess. You'll have that benefit offset by the interest charge next year. I would assume there would be a net benefit to 2026 overall as the debt gets paid down quickly. Michael CiarmoliManaging Director of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Truist Securities00:36:16Okay. Perfect. Thanks, guys. I'll jump back in the queue here. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:36:20Thanks. Operator00:36:21Your next question comes from the line of Gavin Parsons with UBS. Please go ahead. Gavin ParsonsDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at UBS00:36:28Thank you. Good morning. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:36:30Morning. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:36:30Morning. Gavin ParsonsDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at UBS00:36:32I guess just following up on the margin question, in 2026, if commercial aero revenue is higher than it was in 2024, can margins also be higher? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:36:45They can, yes. We have work to do to offset some of the natural inflation that we see normally, but that's certainly the goal. Gavin ParsonsDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at UBS00:36:54Okay. Tom, I guess as you plan for 2026, obviously the supply chain has been pretty lumpy. A350 increases have been set back. How do you think about possible contingencies if destocking does continue longer than you expect? Maybe it's not as operationally disruptive to Hexcel as it was this year. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:37:13What we've been doing is lagging a little bit more in terms of the demand, waiting to see it materialize before we go ahead and hire the heads. We will continue to do that. We have a lot of inventory, so we can cushion any potential unexpected increase in the short term. That is really the primary way we've been managing it and cushioning it: one is set realistic expectations, lag the growth in terms of when we actually hire, and use our inventory to make sure we have a proper cushion for any unexpected demand. Gavin ParsonsDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at UBS00:37:47Great. Thank you. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:37:48Thank you. Operator00:37:50Your next question comes from the line of Scott Mikus with Melius Research. Please go ahead. Scott MikusVP of Equity Research at Melius Research00:37:57Morning, Tom and Patrick. Patrick, congrats. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:38:00Thanks, Scott. Scott MikusVP of Equity Research at Melius Research00:38:03Tom, you referenced the LTA negotiations, and historically, your LTAs have included language where some of the productivity benefits are shared between Hexcel and its customer. As those agreements come up for renegotiation, are you making sure that you get to keep a larger share of the productivity benefits going forward? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:38:23We always want to keep as much as we can, that's for sure. At the same time, you've got to make sure any negotiation ends up being a win-win. A lot of the productivity projects that we drive do require engineering resources from our customers, and you want to make sure you can obtain those resources. Yes, the goal is always to make sure we get a fair return on the investments that we make and the value that we deliver, but also recognizing that we want to facilitate the fact that we need some help and engineering from our customers. Scott MikusVP of Equity Research at Melius Research00:38:59Okay. We've seen some airlines complain that the A321XLR's range is a little bit shorter than advertised, and they reduce their orders. Just given that your material reduces the weight of the aircraft, is there an opportunity for Hexcel to potentially increase its content on the A321XLR if Airbus were looking to extend its range? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:39:21Lightweight materials always help, and there's always an effort to look at material substitution and to change out higher weight materials for lower weight materials. Those efforts are ongoing. A lot of the ones, I'd say the low-hanging fruit has already been captured. There's probably limited opportunities to, frankly, change it on the existing aircraft, but a lot of opportunity on the next generation. The A321, all the versions, the 19, the 20, the 21, LR, XLR, etc., are only 15% carbon fiber composite. The A350 is 50%. The next generation narrowbody will for certainly be a much higher ratio of carbon fiber composite lightweight going forward. The current aircraft, probably most of the material substitution has already been captured. Scott MikusVP of Equity Research at Melius Research00:40:08All right. Got it. Thank you. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:40:10Welcome. Operator00:40:11Your next question comes from Ken Herbert with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Ken HerbertManaging Director at RBC Capital Markets00:40:19Yeah. Hi. Good morning. Thanks. Patrick, let me extend my congratulations as well, and thanks for the help over all the years. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:40:26Yeah, thank you. Ken HerbertManaging Director at RBC Capital Markets00:40:27Maybe the first question, Tom, last quarter you were pretty explicit in terms of expected delivery schedules on some major programs. It looks like the guidance maybe implies about five-ish A350 units were pushed out of the fourth quarter. Can you just talk about if we're thinking about that appropriately and specifically, maybe you know, you sound very confident in the exit rate on that program this year. Sort of where do you expect to be exiting this year as you think about that program? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:40:57Yeah. I think that's about right, Ken. What we're seeing is that Q4 is a little bit lighter than we thought. We only had about five aircraft per month full in Q3, and Airbus has gone to seven aircraft per month now. That change has been made, but it's not necessarily flowing all the way down yet. As a result, the orders for Q4 were a little bit lighter than we expected. That said, the orders going into 2026 are stronger than we expected. That, again, gives us confidence in this rate ramp really taking traction. Airbus is at seven now. They're supposed to go to eight sometime in the middle of the year and maybe even get to nine aircraft per month by the end of the year, which is the current schedule. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:41:41It was a little softer in Q4, but the orders going into 2026 are actually higher than we expected. That's very promising. Ken HerbertManaging Director at RBC Capital Markets00:41:51That's great. With the tariff impact, is there any opportunity to recapture, to call back some of those incremental costs at some point in the future? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:42:01Yes, there are. There's a couple of different provisions if the goods are for export or if the goods are for military use. There are lots of different areas that we can push and pull to try to recover, and we're doing that. It's just those are a little bit more longer term, and the impact, the dollars that we pay out are right now. That's been about $3 million or $4 million a quarter. We do hope to recover some of that as we go forward and, frankly, to shift some of our foreign supply to domestic sources to avoid the tariffs. Ken HerbertManaging Director at RBC Capital Markets00:42:32Great. Thank you very much. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:42:36Thank you. Operator00:42:36Your next question comes from John McNulty with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead. John McNultyManaging Direcor and Chemicals Analyst at BMO Capital Markets00:42:42Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Patrick, again, congratulations on the move. I was hoping you might be able to quantify or give us a little bit of an idea of how big you feel like that inventory cushion that you have actually is. Is it a couple of months? Is it a couple of quarters? As you're thinking about the ramp going into 2026, I'm just trying to get a better understanding of that cushion. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:43:13We've been running pretty high on inventory the last couple of quarters, over 100 days, north of $400 million total amount. That's down to about 90. Back in the 2018, 2019 time period, it was more like 70 days. We've got a 90-day cushion on inventory, but it should in kind of static terms and steady state be more like 70. That's the goal. That's where we are. We do have that inventory. We've been burning it down, and you saw some evidence of that in this quarter. By burning down some inventory, we had some absorption impact, and that impacted our margins a little bit. John McNultyManaging Direcor and Chemicals Analyst at BMO Capital Markets00:43:53Got it. Okay. Fair enough. I guess when you're thinking, at least as of now, about the ramp for your customers next year, how much in terms of labor will you have to be adding? It does sound like you've drawn it down a decent amount this year, and it almost feels like you're trying to thread a pretty small needle here with letting labor come down and only to basically rehire or hire next year. I guess can you help us to think about that? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:44:24Right. We're really right now starting some of the hiring in Europe in Q4 because we see this very high strong demand that has come in for 2026. We'll be hiring in the early part of 2026 and really throughout the year in order to align to production rates. You know we know how much labor we need for the production that's on the books, and we'll be hiring that. As I said, some of that hiring has actually started in Europe in Q4, and it will continue into the first part of 2026. John McNultyManaging Direcor and Chemicals Analyst at BMO Capital Markets00:44:58Got it. Thanks very much for the call. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:45:00Thank you. Operator00:45:01Your next question comes from the line of Pete Skibitski with Alembic Global. Please go ahead. Pete SkibitskiDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Alembic Global00:45:08Hey, good morning everyone. Congrats, Patrick. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:45:11Thank you. Pete SkibitskiDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Alembic Global00:45:12I guess maybe, Tom, you could talk more about space and defense, just the growth you've seen over the last two or three quarters. Does it feel like this is the start of kind of a, you know, this European secular defense spending trend, or are we not there yet? I was wondering, you know, should we expect a pretty big ramp on the CH-53K as well now that Lockheed got the full-rate production contract? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:45:38On Europe, honestly, we saw growth in Europe at European defense at about 18% for the quarter. That was very strong, and I think it is an indication that we're really seeing defense spending in Europe increase. Obviously, they had 1% of their GDP historically, and they've committed now to 5% going forward. There's going to be a massive ramp, and we've seen that with a lot of the companies in Europe. An example of a program is the Rafale program. It's been around a long time, but France has said that they are going to be increasing production of the Rafale in the coming years to meet the demand for European defense. We have a very big position on the Rafale, so that's going to bode well for Hexcel. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:46:19The answer to that is yes, European defense is growing, and we expect it to continue growing, and we're going to be doubling down on that. With regard to the CH-53K, this was probably a bit of a softer quarter, Q3, on the CH-53K, but you read that Lockheed signed a $10 billion deal with the Navy and the Marines to deliver 99 units that'll take it out to 2032. That is a great sign of confidence in the CH-53K program. We have a very large position on it, $2.5 million-$3.5 million per ship set, and we're very excited about that program, very excited about this multi-year deal that Lockheed and Sikorsky were able to sign with the Navy and the Marines. Pete SkibitskiDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Alembic Global00:47:05Hey, Tom, just to follow up, one more program, the F-35, just because Lockheed got the Lot 18 and 19 contracts definitized. Is that pretty steady state for you guys? I know it's a big program for you as well. Is that pretty steady state for you guys for a while? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:47:19It is. You know, they've been producing at about 156 aircraft per year. I think this year they might do 170 to catch up a little bit, but in general, 156 is a good steady state amount, and that'll go for years and years to come. What we will see is a little bit of an uptick on sustainment. Some of the materials that we make for the F-35 are consumable based on usage and flight legs. As the fleet grows and they fly more, that'll drive a little bit more of that material sales for us. Pete SkibitskiDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Alembic Global00:47:50Great. Thank you. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:47:51Thank you. Operator00:47:53Your next question comes from the line of Sheila Kahyaoglu with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Sheila KahyaogluManaging Director at Jefferies00:47:59Good morning, Tom and Patrick. Patrick, congratulations, and Tom, good luck. Tom, if I could ask you on the first question Myles asked, going back to that, just the $1 billion of free cash flow over the next four years on an additional $500 million in revenue, assuming that 35% incremental historically holds, it still assumes some working capital left. Can you maybe talk about how we should think about inventory unwind from here? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:48:29The goal is to continue to drive it down. We've been running heavy on inventory because sales have been lower, and we produced, and we're managing that now a lot more tightly. The goal is we're, you know, call it 90, 95 days of receivables on hand, and the goal is to drive that down into 70. That's more of a steady state for us. We can do better. We will, but that's the target right now on inventory. We will be winding inventory down in the coming quarters. Sheila KahyaogluManaging Director at Jefferies00:49:01Got it. If I could just ask on the margin commentary for 2025, I know you didn't have a direct margin guidance, but as we think about the implied margins, it seemed like they're down 100 basis points versus the prior guide, and the tariffs were about 60. What could you attribute the remainder of that to? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:49:25A little bit of it was this inventory drawdown, which is absorption for us. As we don't produce and take out of inventory, that creates some pressure on our operating expense. That was part of it. We also, as we've mentioned in previous calls, have been investing in a new ERP system, Microsoft D365, and the implementation of that is a little bit of a hang. Just the lower volume in general because of the destocking and some mix changes, and kind of the combination of all that is what weighed on the margins this quarter. Sheila KahyaogluManaging Director at Jefferies00:50:00Great. Thank you. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:50:02Thanks, Sheila. Operator00:50:03Your next question comes from the line of Gautam Khanna with TD Cowen. Please go ahead. Gautam KhannaAnalyst at TD Cowen00:50:11Thanks, and congrats, Patrick. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:50:13Thanks, Gautam. Gautam KhannaAnalyst at TD Cowen00:50:16Guys, I may have missed it, but can you update us on what the A350 equivalent shipments are expected to be this year? Previously, I think you were saying low 60s, and I just want to make sure I understood what happened in Q3. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:50:30I think 60 is the right number. You know, we started off much higher. Our original plan was 84, and that dropped after the first quarter to 68, and we're saying about 60 right now. Gautam KhannaAnalyst at TD Cowen00:50:43Given what you know now about 2026 equivalents, would be your best guess? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:50:52I'd say in the 80 range. Gautam KhannaAnalyst at TD Cowen00:50:54Okay. To your point, you already have kind of capacity, labor, etc., to meet that rate. In theory, the incrementals next year could even be, I know you answered the question on 40%, but could they even be higher given the absorption? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:51:12You always have other factors that you have to offset, but there's no doubt that as those production rates, particularly on the A350, go up, we get better operating leverage, and that drives higher margins. Gautam KhannaAnalyst at TD Cowen00:51:24Last question just on tariffs. Previously, I think you said $3 million-$4 million a quarter, and I just wanted to know what is in the 2025 guide, aggregate tariff headwind. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:51:35Yeah, that's what we've incorporated into the updated guidance, is that amount. Gautam KhannaAnalyst at TD Cowen00:51:41Is that for three quarters or for two? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:51:44Yeah, right. If you look at it, basically, it's about $0.10 of EPS. We dropped our midpoint on EPS from $1.95 -$1.75. From $1.95-$1.75, and the $0.10 of that was based on the tariffs. Gautam KhannaAnalyst at TD Cowen00:52:09Thanks a lot, guys. Appreciate it. Operator00:52:12Your next question comes from the line of Noah Popanek with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Noah PoponakResearch Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:52:19Good morning everyone. Patrick, let me add my thanks for all your help over the years. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:52:24Thanks, Noah. Noah PoponakResearch Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:52:27If I look at consensus right now, it has total company revenue up 12% full year 2026 versus 2025. Is that kind of growth directionally achievable, or does the aerospace new build destock last long enough into 2026 to make that look steep? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:52:50It probably looks a little bit steep. I don't think we're confident that we've reached the inflection point and it's going up, but I don't think we want to overcall it. I think we want to be conservative in terms of what that outlook is. It's definitely going up, and it'll be a healthy increase, but 12% is a little aggressive. We'll see where we end up. I think we'll also be conservative in our outlook of what we plan for and build and wait and see the increases happen before we get too far out in front of it. Noah PoponakResearch Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:53:24Okay. That makes sense. Tom, at a high level, if I look across the aerospace supply chain and I take the 2025 operating margin versus the pre-pandemic, the 2019, there aren't that many suppliers that are down. A lot are similar and a lot are up considerably. Hexcel is down. What do you attribute that to? I know you have some pretty significant contract renegotiations over the next few years. Are there things you're looking to change in your contract terms with your customers to improve the profitability protection in the case of downturns and industry disruptions? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:54:16First of all, let me answer the first question. The reason our margins are down and maybe others in the industry aren't down is we are mostly original equipment and others have more aftermarket. If you look at the industry, air traffic dropped 96% in April 2020, and it recovered fully within four years. Production peaked in 2018 at 1,734 units. Last year, we were only at 1,230 units. It's only 75%. While air traffic increased, production didn't. Probably 3,600 aircraft that should have been built in that period weren't built. That meant that the fleets were older and people had to spend a lot more on aftermarket. Anybody who's had aftermarket exposure has done extremely well. For better or worse, Hexcel makes material that goes into structures that don't wear and don't have a lot of aftermarket. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:55:08The fact that we are so heavily tilted toward original equipment for commercial aerospace and that production is only 75% recovered, and by the way, only 50% recovered on wide bodies, explains why our margins are still down and others are higher because they have this great aftermarket exposure. As the production rates increase, we will get huge amounts of operating leverage. That's why the next four or five years for Hexcel are going to be absolutely great because we're going to benefit from the $500 million of incremental annual revenue and the increased cash flow that that will generate. That's what I would say. Noah PoponakResearch Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:55:46Appreciate it. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:55:47In terms of the contracts, yes, the contracts as we go forward, first of all, they won't be longer. You know, a 22-year contract is not what we're going to be looking for. We'll also have more tiered to volume. As volume goes up and volume goes down, the price will change. We'll probably also look at more pass-throughs on costs that we can't necessarily control, some of our resins or chemicals and products like that. The contracts will be more sophisticated to reflect a more dynamic environment that we face today that we didn't face back in 2008. Noah PoponakResearch Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:56:23Appreciate all the detail. Thank you. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:56:25Thanks, Noah. Operator00:56:28Your final question comes from Scott Deuschle with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead. Scott DeuschleDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Deutsche Bank00:56:34Hey, good morning. Tom, just to clarify your response to Ken's question, do you expect to enter 2026 at seven a month on the A350? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:56:41Yes, we do. There is a little bit of destocking in the fourth quarter, but they'll have a couple of months under their belt at seven, and we expect to enter 2026 at seven, going to eight, and possibly nine by the end of the year. Scott DeuschleDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Deutsche Bank00:56:55Okay. Patrick, can you offer any quantification as to what that FX headwind that you flagged in your prepared remarks could look like going forward? I'd imagine it's fairly immaterial, but just want to check on that. Patrick WinterlichEVP and CFO at Hexcel Corporation00:57:06It was very immaterial really in the fourth quarter, just 10 basis points as I called out. The hedging mechanism that we have in place and have had in place for many years smooths the peaks and the troughs. We are at this cusp of a turning point from a strong dollar to a weaker dollar, so into a slight headwind now into 2026. Again, I wouldn't overstate it, 10, 20, 30 basis points maybe in 2026, but it all depends on where the dollar now moves. Scott DeuschleDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Deutsche Bank00:57:34Okay. One last question, if I could. Tom, if you see value in the stock today, just trying to understand why you didn't buy back any in the third quarter when the stock price was 20% lower than it is right now. It would have been a good amount. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:57:46We did a $352 million ASR. I think that's my response. Scott DeuschleDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Deutsche Bank00:57:52Okay. All right. Thank you. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:57:55Thank you. Operator00:57:56We have time for one more question from Richard Safran with Seaport Research Partners. Please go ahead. Richard SafranManaging Director of Aerospace and Defense at Seaport Research Partners00:58:04Thanks, Tom. Tom, good morning. Patrick, wish you all the best. It's been a pleasure. Listen, Tom, I know you're coming off of facilities in Austria, Hartford, and Belgium. I was just wondering if you're contemplating any further changes in the portfolio? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:58:20We are always looking at the portfolio to figure out how to streamline and optimize it. There could be a few more things that we do. These were the big ones, but that's an ongoing part of our normal operating cadence. We are going to continue to look at that and figure out how do we optimize so that we get the best cost and make sure we're focused on the strategic priorities. The number one priority for us in the next few years is making sure we can ramp up to meet the production rate increases for our customers, the safety, quality, and delivery. That's our number one priority. We will continue to optimize the portfolio to help achieve that. Richard SafranManaging Director of Aerospace and Defense at Seaport Research Partners00:58:55Okay. On the just quickly on the buyback, it was just accelerated buyback. I just wondered what drove the change in capital deployment strategy. It seems a bit out of character. Should we take that in the future, you're going to do more of these with the $1 billion you're anticipating over the next four years? Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:59:16The answer to that is yes. We'll continue to look at that, and it will be a top priority. I think what changed is a couple of things. One is we're looking at the market, and the market clearly is at an inflection point, and the rates are going up. We now have great confidence in that. Secondly, as I mentioned, you know our capital deployment strategy has always been fund productivity, fund R&D to get on the next generation of products, fund organic growth, and then look at inorganic growth. We looked hard. We did a very comprehensive search. We didn't see anything out there that met our strategic priorities or our return thresholds. We said we've got all this excess cash that's coming. The best investment in aerospace right now is Hexcel, so that's where we put our money. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation00:59:55That's why we did the ASR, and that's why we made the reauthorization as big as it is so that we could do more in the future once we pay this one down and get back to our target leverage ratios. Richard SafranManaging Director of Aerospace and Defense at Seaport Research Partners01:00:06Thanks very much. Tom GentileCEO, Chairman, and President at Hexcel Corporation01:00:07Thank you. Operator01:00:09Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the Hexcel third quarter earnings call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesTom GentileCEO, Chairman, and PresidentPatrick WinterlichEVP and CFOKurt GoddardVP of Investor RelationsAnalystsSheila KahyaogluManaging Director at JefferiesGautam KhannaAnalyst at TD CowenPete SkibitskiDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Alembic GlobalRichard SafranManaging Director of Aerospace and Defense at Seaport Research PartnersScott DeuschleDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Deutsche BankMyles WaltonManaging Director at Wolfe ResearchGavin ParsonsDirector of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at UBSKen HerbertManaging Director at RBC Capital MarketsScott MikusVP of Equity Research at Melius ResearchNoah PoponakResearch Analyst at Goldman SachsJohn McNultyManaging Direcor and Chemicals Analyst at BMO Capital MarketsMichael CiarmoliManaging Director of Aerospace and Defense Equity Research at Truist SecuritiesPowered by