NASDAQ:NMRK Newmark Group Q3 2025 Earnings Results & Report $10.62 -0.24 (-2.21%) Closing price 11/13/2026 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$10.62 0.00 (-0.05%) As of 11/13/2026 07:30 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. Newmark Group beat analyst expectations on both earnings and revenue in its Q3 2025 results, released October 30, 2025. The company reported EPS of $0.42 versus the $0.41 consensus estimate, while revenue of $863.46 million topped the $767.12 million estimate by $96.34 million. Revenue increased 25.9% year over year. Research:ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Earnings Announcement Details QuarterQ3 2025Report DateOctober 30, 2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call10:00 AM ET Newmark Group EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.42Consensus EPS $0.41Beat/MissBeat by +$0.01One Year Ago EPS$0.33EPS Beat Rate8 of last 8 quartersNewmark Group Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$863.46 millionExpected Revenue$767.12 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$96.34 millionYoY Revenue Growth+25.90%Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Newmark Group Q3 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrOctober 30, 2025ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: Record Q3 revenue of $863.5 million, +25.9% YoY, with double‑digit organic growth across every major business line. Positive Sentiment: Adjusted EPS rose 27.3% to $0.42 and adjusted EBITDA increased 28.9% to $145.2 million; management reiterated 2026 targets and raised 2025 guidance (revenues $3.175–3.325B; EBITDA $543–579M). Positive Sentiment: Strong cash generation and balance sheet — $224.1 million of cash, ~1x net leverage, trailing‑12‑month adjusted free cash flow up 134% to $291.9 million, and $125.5 million of share repurchases. Negative Sentiment: Total expenses increased 24.9%, driven by a 32.9% rise in commission‑based costs, higher pass‑through expenses and investments/hiring (including $77.3 million cash used to hire revenue‑generating professionals), which could pressure near‑term results. Positive Sentiment: Strategic expansion initiatives — acquisition of Real Foundations, launch of fund administration, and international growth (nine new offices, 100+ hires, new APAC/India facilities management) aimed at boosting recurring revenue and cross‑sell opportunities. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallNewmark Group Q3 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day and welcome to the Newmark Group third quarter 2025 financial results call. Today's call is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Jason McGruder, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Jason McGruderHead of Investor Relations at Newmark Group00:00:12Thank you, operator, and good morning. Newmark issued its third quarter 2025 financial results press release this morning. Unless otherwise stated, the results provided on today's call compare only the three months ending September 30th, 2025, with a year earlier period. Except as otherwise stated, we will be referring to our results only on a non-GAAP basis, including the terms adjusted earnings and adjusted EBITDA unless otherwise stated. Any figures discussed today with respect to cash flow from operations refer to net cash provided by operating activities, excluding the impact of GSE, FHA, loan origination and sales. We may also use the term cash generated by the business, which is the same operating cash flow measure before the impact of cash used for employee loans. Jason McGruderHead of Investor Relations at Newmark Group00:00:52Please refer to today's press release, the Supplemental Tables, and Quarter Results presentation on our website for complete updated definitions of any non-GAAP terms, reconciliation of these items to the corresponding GAAP results, and how, when, and why management uses them. For additional information on our cash flow measures as well as relevant industry or economic statistics, the outlook discussed today assumes no material acquisitions or meaningful changes in our stock price. Our expectations are subject to change based on various macroeconomic, social, political, and other factors. None of our targets or goals beyond 2025 should be considered formal guidance. Also, I remind you that information on this call contains forward-looking statements, including, without limitation, statements concerning our economic outlook and business. Such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, which could cause our actual results to differ from expectations. Jason McGruderHead of Investor Relations at Newmark Group00:01:37Except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. For complete discussion of the risks and other factors that may impact these forward-looking statements, see our SEC filings, including, but not limited to, risk factors and disclosures regarding forward-looking information in our most recent SEC filings, which are incorporated by reference. I'm now happy to turn the call over to our host and Chief Executive Officer, Barry Gosin. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:02:02Good morning and thank you for joining us. Newmark again delivered strong quarterly top and bottom line improvements. Our record third quarter revenues included double-digit gains across every major business line. Newmark's growth was entirely organic. Earlier this month we acquired RealFoundations, which offers management consulting and outsourced managed services for institutional real estate clients across the U.S., Europe, and Asia-Pacific. We also recently launched a Fund Administration business. Newmark now has one of the most comprehensive sets of investor solutions to drive value for owners of commercial real estate, banks, and debt funds. Coupled with our best-in-class talent and client relationships, we believe Newmark is poised for growth across all of our investor and occupier-focused businesses. With respect to our international expansion, this week we launched property and facility Management Services in India, the APAC region. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:03:09Since the beginning of last year, we have opened nine international offices and hired over 100 revenue-generating professionals based outside the U.S. This includes expansions in France, Germany, the U.K., Singapore, India, South Korea, as well as the U.A.E. Newmark's client-centric approach, expanding global reach, and our commitment to remaining agile, accountable, and adaptable is resulting in seeing and winning more global occupier assignments. We are becoming the brand of choice. This gives us increased confidence in our stated goal of producing more than $2 billion of recurring revenues annually by 2029. With that, I am happy to turn the call over to our CFO, Mike Rispoli. Mike RispoliCFO at Newmark Group00:04:01Thank you Barry and good morning. I'm pleased to report that for the fifth consecutive quarter Newmark produced double-digit revenue and earnings growth. Total revenues were $863.5 million, up 25.9% compared with $685.9 million. We increased Management Services, Servicing and other by 12.6%, leading to the company's best ever quarter for these recurring businesses. This included 23.5% growth from Valuation & Advisory. In addition, our high-margin servicing and Asset Management platform grew by over 12% when excluding the impact of lower interest rates on escrow earnings. Leasing revenues were up 13.7%, resulting in a record third quarter for this service line. This was led by strong activity in New York, Texas and Northern California where we generated growth in office and Industrial and Capital Markets. Mike RispoliCFO at Newmark Group00:05:04Revenues increased by 59.7%, which reflected an approximately 129% improvement in our total debt volumes, nearly 2.5x faster than the industry. We increased our investment sales volumes by 67%, also significantly outpacing the industry. Turning to expenses, total expenses were up by 24.9%, which reflected a 32.9% increase in our commission-based revenues, higher pass-through costs as well as investments in growth. We are more confident than ever in meeting or exceeding our 2026 targets of generating record earnings of over $630 million in adjusted EBITDA and $1.75 per share of adjusted EPS. With respect to taxes, the company's tax rate for adjusted earnings was 12.1% in the quarter and 13.2% year to date. The lower rate was primarily driven by higher tax-deductible stock compensation. We have therefore adjusted our full year range to 13%-15%. Mike RispoliCFO at Newmark Group00:06:14Moving to earnings, we increased adjusted EPS by 27.3% to $0.42 compared with $0.33. Adjusted EBITDA was $145.2 million, up 28.9% versus $112.6 million. Our adjusted EBITDA margin on total revenues improved by 40 basis points to 16.8% for the first nine months of 2025. This margin improved by approximately 116 basis points to 15.2% compared with a year earlier. With respect to share count, our fully diluted weighted average share count was down 1.3% to 251.7 million. Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with $224.1 million of cash and cash equivalents and 1x net leverage. The balance sheet changes from year end 2024 reflected cash generated by the business of $325.5 million and $75 million of incremental borrowing under Newmark's revolving credit facility. This was offset by $177.3 million of cash used mainly to hire revenue generating professionals. Mike RispoliCFO at Newmark Group00:07:33$125.5 million of share repurchases, normal seasonal movements in working capital. Newmark continues to generate significant cash flow. Our adjusted free cash flow for the trailing twelve months was up 134% to $291.9 million. Moving to guidance, our updated outlook for 2025 is as follows. We now expect total revenues of between $3.175 billion and $3.325 billion, an increase of 18.5% at the midpoint. We anticipate adjusted EPS between $1.53 and $1.63, up 24%-33%, and we anticipate adjusted EBITDA in the range of $543 million to $579 million, an increase of 22%-30%, and an EBITDA margin improvement of approximately 100 basis points at the midpoint of the range. With that, I would now like to open the call for questions. Operator00:08:45Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, you may signal by pressing STAR 1 on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Once again, STAR 1 for questions. We'll take our first question from Alexander Goldfarb with Piper Sandler. Alex GoldfarbManaging Director of Equity Research at Piper Sandler00:09:04Hey, morning. Alex GoldfarbManaging Director of Equity Research at Piper Sandler00:09:06Morning down there, Barry. I have two questions. The first question is on data centers. It's been a topic we've discussed before with you guys and certainly just seems to show no slowdown in investor and capital enthusiasm. As your team looks at the amount of capital that's been committed versus the ability to actually build data centers over the next foreseeable future, do you think all the capital can be put to work in the next, whatever, five, ten years? Is there a lot more capital raised versus the physical ability to actually build data centers? Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:09:44America is a big place. There is quite a bit of land, and there's quite a bit of gas, and there's an effort long term to build nuclear, both micro and large scale nuclear. We were just involved in a company going public building a nuclear plant in Texas. You were involved in a Series C, and then they were taken public. We'll see a lot more of that. On the exit, there'll be a lot of that in respect of some of these hyperscalers figuring a way to exit and raise more capital. There is an endless amount of interest in data centers. We produce about 3 GW a year, I think. I believe that's a number. We've seen people and estimates as high as 100 GW-200 GW of power. The country is going to require an enormous amount of infrastructure. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:10:46It's not just data centers, it's infrastructure, and infrastructure meaning nuclear plants and power plants and pipelines and data centers and quantum computing and a host of other things that surround it and support it on the industrial side of the business. Generally, if you look at the GDP, the GDP was primarily the investment in this kind of infrastructure. I think it has a lot of traction. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:11:18And. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:11:21As I said before, probably three quarters ago, if you believe in AI, you'll believe in the future. There is runway, Alex GoldfarbManaging Director of Equity Research at Piper Sandler00:11:29but do. Alex GoldfarbManaging Director of Equity Research at Piper Sandler00:11:31You think it's, I mean, the point is it sounds like there's, we all know there's a lot out there of potential needs. It just sounds like physically building the infrastructure, laying the utilities, building the power plants, all this stuff, it sounds like the capital has gotten ahead of itself. Do you think that's the case, or do you think that the capital raised can commensurately basically go into production pretty quickly? Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:11:58There is a lot of production going on, but there will be a lot more. I mean, the capital comes first. We're on the capital side, so that's good for us. Raising the capital, the build is good for us. I mean, just look at the numbers and the prediction. There's going to be a lot more capital required. I mean, on the end when it's built, we'll be there with financing and going public and doing all those kind of things. We're following the continuum. We'll be a beneficiary of the future, but we're also right there in the beginning. Alex GoldfarbManaging Director of Equity Research at Piper Sandler00:12:34Okay, and then the second question is, years ago, when you were investing in hiring a lot of different producers and expanding into new areas, acquiring smaller shops, there was a lot of drag initially from those hires. You spent the money to onboard them. It took a while for them to deliver. Recently, that seems to be a thing of the past. You guys have been expanding into Europe. You mentioned the expansion in India, et cetera. Is all of that drag that we experienced years ago when you were onboarding producers just a thing of the past, or has the company gotten big enough, or is it where the stock price is today? I'm just trying to understand because it's a pretty sharp contrast now as you grow and expand. It doesn't seem to have a slowdown to earnings, whereas years ago it did. Mike RispoliCFO at Newmark Group00:13:24Morning, Alex, it's Mike. I'll take that one. Of course, it still has a drag on earnings. We're going to grow nicely this year and expand our EBITDA margins by 100 basis points. Had we not been investing for the future, that could have been double the EBITDA expansion. What I would say is the investments we're making today, which are very purposeful and you can see we've accelerated as we move throughout this year, are going to result in 10% earnings improvement next year. That is our model. We're very intentional about it, and we can grow margin while expanding the business and continuing to invest. We'll continue to do that. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:14:06I mean, we are going to continue, we're going to continue to grow the company, Alex. There is still running room, there's still white space, and we are still putting all the pieces together to build a complete foundation. We're now winning more and seeing more, like I just said. What does that mean? That means we're going to have more market share on the things that we have now, put all the pieces together in whatever spectrum of activities that are required in that vertical. Once we're there, we pitch the business, we'll have a higher ratio of win rates and our volume will go up without any capital requirements. You could see in some of our businesses it's more apparent because we've already built it, it's happening. We're winning market share. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:14:59There are other verticals that we're working on, not to mention all of the recurring revenue businesses that are around the hoop and supporting all of the other businesses that we've created. Alex GoldfarbManaging Director of Equity Research at Piper Sandler00:15:10Thank you. Operator00:15:15We'll take our next question from Jade Rahmani with KBW. Jade RahmaniManaging Director of Equity Research at KBW00:15:20Thank you very much. The 2026 targets that Mike reiterated, when were those conceived? Mike RispoliCFO at Newmark Group00:15:30Morning, Jade. We've had those targets out there for a while, as you know. Certainly we'll get through the fourth quarter, and we'll give formal guidance for 2026 probably on our next earnings call. We feel very confident, and that's still double digit growth from the midpoint of our guidance range this year. We'll certainly reevaluate that next quarter. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:15:54Jade, it was a couple years ago. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:15:56You just look back at the earnings calls. We've predicted that for a while. Jade RahmaniManaging Director of Equity Research at KBW00:16:04Yes. What I'm trying to imply or suggest is that since they were created prior to the very robust growth that Newmark has demonstrated across its businesses, particularly Capital Markets, plus the data center fundraising wave in which Newmark is taking part, the outlook 2026, as previously mentioned, seems quite conservative. Growth coming out of serious recoveries tends to be a lot stronger than that. The recovery thus far, macro risks notwithstanding, seems to be gaining momentum. Do you believe that those targets are conservative and are you also seeing anything in the macro economy that would cause you to be erring on this side of caution? Mike RispoliCFO at Newmark Group00:17:00I would say it's always good to be a little cautious. Certainly, those are conservative targets. You know, we'll give you an update next quarter once we get through the full year. Jade RahmaniManaging Director of Equity Research at KBW00:17:12Thank you very much. Great job. Operator00:17:16We'll take our next question from Julien Blouin with Goldman Sachs. Julien BlouinVP of Real Estate Investment Research at Goldman Sachs00:17:22Hi, thank you for the question and congrats on the strong quarter. Barry, I wanted to ask about New York City. Third quarter CRE transactions and leasing in the city looked really strong, but we continue to hear signs that institutional investors, especially abroad, are maybe beginning to worry about political risk in the city related to the mayoral race, I guess. Are you seeing any sign of impact or any cautiousness from buyers in the city? Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:17:58Not really. I mean, there's a lot of noise around the mayor. As I said, probably two calls ago, the mayor has limited power. The governor's race, the governor really is the firewall for the city. That's really it. The federal government, on what, you know, how the federal government is going to treat New York, but that's New York State as well as New York. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:18:27So. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:18:31I believe it's a lot, it's just a lot of noise. New York is, New York is. The law firms are doing great. The financial institutions are all expanding, all of our clients are expanding. I don't really see it. Julien BlouinVP of Real Estate Investment Research at Goldman Sachs00:18:52Got it. Julien BlouinVP of Real Estate Investment Research at Goldman Sachs00:18:53That's helpful. Julien BlouinVP of Real Estate Investment Research at Goldman Sachs00:18:55Mike, can you help us understand maybe the cadence of Capital Markets across the quarter? Was September particularly strong given rates coming down? Did you see sort of a follow through of that activity into October, and how do pipelines compare to this time last year? Mike RispoliCFO at Newmark Group00:19:17I wouldn't say there was any particular, anything within months that would stand out. To me, it was a strong quarter across the board for us. The pipelines remain really strong into the fourth quarter. You could see that in our guidance, and we feel pretty good. We don't see anything in the market that is slowing transaction activity down at the moment. Julien BlouinVP of Real Estate Investment Research at Goldman Sachs00:19:43Okay, great, thank you. Operator00:19:46As a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please signal by pressing Star 1. We'll go next to Mitch Germain with Citizens Bank. Mitch GermainManaging Director of Real Estate Investment Research at Citizens Bank00:19:55Thank you and congrats on the quarter. Just maybe on the RealFoundations transaction, Barry, just maybe talk about, you know, kind of your view of the fit and potential to expand or cross sell that platform. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:20:13We look at ourselves as a pure play for the most part. We are designing a business to be able to be a partner with institutional investors to help them execute on their strategy. That means all things for them to help them leverage companies like us to be able to do more. What RealFoundations is, is both a consulting firm and a technology advisor. They implement and integrate, for example, MRI and Yardi, which are the two biggest technology platforms for investors and how they manage. They can go in and advise a company on which tech, how to integrate it, and how to get the maximum out of it. Now that's a piece of all the other things that we've done: real estate, property accounting, staffing, due diligence, cost monitoring. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:21:18All those pieces fit neatly together and bridge the gaps between a holistic solution as becoming the go-to firm. When a fund is thinking about how they want to operate, some would prefer to operate with everything in-house, and some prefer to operate with some of this outsourced. We hire great people. We bought great companies. Our strategy is about centers of excellence and people who are excellent. If we continue to hire the kind of talent that our clients rely on, we think we will be the go-to brand for that kind of business. We think that has enormous traction. We launched Fund Administration as well, and without RealFoundations, it would have been much harder for us to deliver on Fund Administration. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:22:13We put the pieces together very carefully, we thought about it, and we think we now have an incredible array of services to provide a very comprehensive solution. Mitch GermainManaging Director of Real Estate Investment Research at Citizens Bank00:22:28Great, that's super helpful. Lou AlvaradoCOO at Newmark Group00:22:32No, this is Lou Alvarado, if I can. Mitch GermainManaging Director of Real Estate Investment Research at Citizens Bank00:22:34Oh, sorry about that. Mitch GermainManaging Director of Real Estate Investment Research at Citizens Bank00:22:35My thoughts. Lou AlvaradoCOO at Newmark Group00:22:37The other value that we saw in RealFoundations is to augment our growth and occupier solutions. They were primarily investor focused, but we saw a lot of the skills that they have and the talent that they bring really blends well with our occupier platform as well. As we have significantly grown that and continue to focus on growing that, we think RealFoundations will be an excellent match for us. That was part of the reason why RealFoundations also picked us to be a partner with them in their growth as well as ours. Mitch GermainManaging Director of Real Estate Investment Research at Citizens Bank00:23:08Great, thanks for that perspective. Barry, obviously you've been making a lot of hires outside the U.S., opening new offices. I'm curious about your views about organically growing services platform, facilities management and other services versus more traditional brokerage and kind. Mitch GermainManaging Director of Real Estate Investment Research at Citizens Bank00:23:31Of how you view that organic growth. Mitch GermainManaging Director of Real Estate Investment Research at Citizens Bank00:23:33The timeline to augment those capabilities on a global scale. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:23:40It's accelerating. We're putting all the pieces together the same way we did on the investor side. We're doing it the same way on the facility management and the occupier solutions side. Lou's absolutely right. I mean, when you know, we have clients on the occupier side who use the same technology, and to be able to help them implement a technology strategy to manage their real estate better will give us a leg up on the competition. We need to be in the geographies, we need to be in all the verticals, and we need to be out there. I think that our reception in Europe has been incredible. The same, you know, the talented people want to be with us, and they're joining the firm because of how we approach the business. As I said, agile, accountable, nimble. We provide customized solutions. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:24:37It's easier for us to provide customized solutions for clients and not just a black box. We're not overly pregnant in certain areas, so it gives us the ability to be adaptable for our clients. You know, all the things are coming together, and as we continue to put in, you know, hit a geography and have that geography, we were invited to many more parties. Mitch GermainManaging Director of Real Estate Investment Research at Citizens Bank00:25:10Thank you. Operator00:25:14Thank you. We'll take a follow-up question from Jade Rahmani with KBW. Jade RahmaniManaging Director of Equity Research at KBW00:25:19Thank you very much. I just wanted to ask if there's anything in the fourth quarter 2024 comp period that you want to call out. For example, leasing commissions were up 15.1%, so that's a tougher comp than what you dealt with this quarter. Capital Markets of course was very strong last year, but given the strength this quarter, it seems achievable to exceed that. Anything on the, you know. Jade RahmaniManaging Director of Equity Research at KBW00:25:50Expense side, just so we're aware. Mike RispoliCFO at Newmark Group00:25:54Sure. I think generally Q4 is going to be a tougher comp for us. We were up 17% last year in 2024 in the fourth quarter. That's all been thought through and reflected in the guidance that we provided both in terms of top line and bottom line. The pipeline continues to remain strong and really it just comes down to when do transactions close. As you know, there's always some that are going to push out, some that are going to pull in. We thought through that as we gave you the guidance range that we put out today. Jade RahmaniManaging Director of Equity Research at KBW00:26:30Thanks very much. Operator00:26:33Thank you. We'll take a follow up question from Julien Blouin with Goldman Sachs. Julien BlouinVP of Real Estate Investment Research at Goldman Sachs00:26:40Thank you. Just a quick follow up, Barry, following on from Alex's question on data centers, your data center Capital Markets volumes have been really impressive this year, particularly on the financing side. Can you just maybe talk through the team you've built there, how you've been able to build such a dominant early foothold in the space? How should we think about the growth in data center financing volumes and investment sales going forward? Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:27:14You know what's interesting, a couple years ago we brought in experts in our valuation group that do risk assessment and stress testing for banks. The idea is to be early and early as often as you can. We saw signs of the, you know, the data center business. We acted quickly. That goes into the definition of nimble. We hired people quickly and we got in front of it and we have incredibly good people that can adapt as well. We put together an incredible team of people and we're still building it actually, you know, we're building more on the Leasing side of it because you're still going to have. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:28:11You. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:28:12Cloud computing, you're going to still have some of the old colocation facilities that are going to change out their racking systems to have better cooling and more capability for the new AI chipset that provide much more heat and a much higher level of computing. There is a whole business of adapting some of the old colocation facilities for the new environment, and we'll be involved in that kind of stuff. We still continue to hire good people. It's just all about talent. I mean, everything in all of our verticals, it's about getting the right people in the right place and not overcrowding. Julien BlouinVP of Real Estate Investment Research at Goldman Sachs00:29:00Thank you. Operator00:29:03Thank you. We'll take a follow up question from Alexander Goldfarb with Piper Sandler. Alex GoldfarbManaging Director of Equity Research at Piper Sandler00:29:09Hey, thank you. Barry, just want to continue that a while back, if my recollection is right, when you and I discussed this, there was the comparison to life science and how you didn't want to overcommit from an investment to data centers. Just given that real estate tends to follow boom bust cycles. Doesn't mean it's out. It just means, hey, there's a big boom and then there's a cooling and then it grows from there. Obviously life science went crazy during COVID and now it's dealing with the consequences. From a staffing level, are you now feeling more bullish that this has longer legs to hire more or you're still of that restraint mentality which is, hey, we don't want to get too far over our skis on this. It's a great sector. Every sector that has huge growth eventually has a cooling period. Alex GoldfarbManaging Director of Equity Research at Piper Sandler00:29:59We just want to maintain staffing appropriately. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:30:07We're always, we always view doing more with less. That's just our operating model. If you have great people, you can flex up and down. When you get overly committed on anything, it's hard to go the other way. We think we're appropriately staffed to scale now. We think there are parts of it that we could expand in the geographies, probably more on the Leasing side of the data center business. Money is fungible, it travels everywhere. We can do it with our team and flexing our team the way it is. Our strategy is more with less, not more. Alex GoldfarbManaging Director of Equity Research at Piper Sandler00:30:50Thank you. Operator00:30:57Thank you. With no additional questions in queue at this time, I'd like to turn the call back over to Barry Gosin for any additional or closing remarks. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:31:04Once again, I'd like to thank everybody for joining, and I look forward to updating you next quarter. Operator00:31:13That will conclude today's call. We appreciate your participation.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesLou AlvaradoCOOJason McGruderHead of Investor RelationsMike RispoliCFOBarry GosinCEOAnalystsAlex GoldfarbManaging Director of Equity Research at Piper SandlerJulien BlouinVP of Real Estate Investment Research at Goldman SachsMitch GermainManaging Director of Real Estate Investment Research at Citizens BankJade RahmaniManaging Director of Equity Research at KBWPowered by Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckEarnings Release(8-K)Quarterly Report(10-Q) Newmark Group Q3 2025 Earnings FAQ Did Newmark Group beat earnings estimates for Q3 2025? Newmark Group (NASDAQ:NMRK) reported earnings of $0.42 per share for Q3 2025, beating the consensus estimate of $0.41. The report was announced on Thursday, October 30, 2025. What was Newmark Group's revenue for Q3 2025? Newmark Group reported revenue of $863.46 million for Q3 2025, against a consensus estimate of $767.12 million. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day and welcome to the Newmark Group third quarter 2025 financial results call. Today's call is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Jason McGruder, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Jason McGruderHead of Investor Relations at Newmark Group00:00:12Thank you, operator, and good morning. Newmark issued its third quarter 2025 financial results press release this morning. Unless otherwise stated, the results provided on today's call compare only the three months ending September 30th, 2025, with a year earlier period. Except as otherwise stated, we will be referring to our results only on a non-GAAP basis, including the terms adjusted earnings and adjusted EBITDA unless otherwise stated. Any figures discussed today with respect to cash flow from operations refer to net cash provided by operating activities, excluding the impact of GSE, FHA, loan origination and sales. We may also use the term cash generated by the business, which is the same operating cash flow measure before the impact of cash used for employee loans. Jason McGruderHead of Investor Relations at Newmark Group00:00:52Please refer to today's press release, the Supplemental Tables, and Quarter Results presentation on our website for complete updated definitions of any non-GAAP terms, reconciliation of these items to the corresponding GAAP results, and how, when, and why management uses them. For additional information on our cash flow measures as well as relevant industry or economic statistics, the outlook discussed today assumes no material acquisitions or meaningful changes in our stock price. Our expectations are subject to change based on various macroeconomic, social, political, and other factors. None of our targets or goals beyond 2025 should be considered formal guidance. Also, I remind you that information on this call contains forward-looking statements, including, without limitation, statements concerning our economic outlook and business. Such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, which could cause our actual results to differ from expectations. Jason McGruderHead of Investor Relations at Newmark Group00:01:37Except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. For complete discussion of the risks and other factors that may impact these forward-looking statements, see our SEC filings, including, but not limited to, risk factors and disclosures regarding forward-looking information in our most recent SEC filings, which are incorporated by reference. I'm now happy to turn the call over to our host and Chief Executive Officer, Barry Gosin. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:02:02Good morning and thank you for joining us. Newmark again delivered strong quarterly top and bottom line improvements. Our record third quarter revenues included double-digit gains across every major business line. Newmark's growth was entirely organic. Earlier this month we acquired RealFoundations, which offers management consulting and outsourced managed services for institutional real estate clients across the U.S., Europe, and Asia-Pacific. We also recently launched a Fund Administration business. Newmark now has one of the most comprehensive sets of investor solutions to drive value for owners of commercial real estate, banks, and debt funds. Coupled with our best-in-class talent and client relationships, we believe Newmark is poised for growth across all of our investor and occupier-focused businesses. With respect to our international expansion, this week we launched property and facility Management Services in India, the APAC region. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:03:09Since the beginning of last year, we have opened nine international offices and hired over 100 revenue-generating professionals based outside the U.S. This includes expansions in France, Germany, the U.K., Singapore, India, South Korea, as well as the U.A.E. Newmark's client-centric approach, expanding global reach, and our commitment to remaining agile, accountable, and adaptable is resulting in seeing and winning more global occupier assignments. We are becoming the brand of choice. This gives us increased confidence in our stated goal of producing more than $2 billion of recurring revenues annually by 2029. With that, I am happy to turn the call over to our CFO, Mike Rispoli. Mike RispoliCFO at Newmark Group00:04:01Thank you Barry and good morning. I'm pleased to report that for the fifth consecutive quarter Newmark produced double-digit revenue and earnings growth. Total revenues were $863.5 million, up 25.9% compared with $685.9 million. We increased Management Services, Servicing and other by 12.6%, leading to the company's best ever quarter for these recurring businesses. This included 23.5% growth from Valuation & Advisory. In addition, our high-margin servicing and Asset Management platform grew by over 12% when excluding the impact of lower interest rates on escrow earnings. Leasing revenues were up 13.7%, resulting in a record third quarter for this service line. This was led by strong activity in New York, Texas and Northern California where we generated growth in office and Industrial and Capital Markets. Mike RispoliCFO at Newmark Group00:05:04Revenues increased by 59.7%, which reflected an approximately 129% improvement in our total debt volumes, nearly 2.5x faster than the industry. We increased our investment sales volumes by 67%, also significantly outpacing the industry. Turning to expenses, total expenses were up by 24.9%, which reflected a 32.9% increase in our commission-based revenues, higher pass-through costs as well as investments in growth. We are more confident than ever in meeting or exceeding our 2026 targets of generating record earnings of over $630 million in adjusted EBITDA and $1.75 per share of adjusted EPS. With respect to taxes, the company's tax rate for adjusted earnings was 12.1% in the quarter and 13.2% year to date. The lower rate was primarily driven by higher tax-deductible stock compensation. We have therefore adjusted our full year range to 13%-15%. Mike RispoliCFO at Newmark Group00:06:14Moving to earnings, we increased adjusted EPS by 27.3% to $0.42 compared with $0.33. Adjusted EBITDA was $145.2 million, up 28.9% versus $112.6 million. Our adjusted EBITDA margin on total revenues improved by 40 basis points to 16.8% for the first nine months of 2025. This margin improved by approximately 116 basis points to 15.2% compared with a year earlier. With respect to share count, our fully diluted weighted average share count was down 1.3% to 251.7 million. Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with $224.1 million of cash and cash equivalents and 1x net leverage. The balance sheet changes from year end 2024 reflected cash generated by the business of $325.5 million and $75 million of incremental borrowing under Newmark's revolving credit facility. This was offset by $177.3 million of cash used mainly to hire revenue generating professionals. Mike RispoliCFO at Newmark Group00:07:33$125.5 million of share repurchases, normal seasonal movements in working capital. Newmark continues to generate significant cash flow. Our adjusted free cash flow for the trailing twelve months was up 134% to $291.9 million. Moving to guidance, our updated outlook for 2025 is as follows. We now expect total revenues of between $3.175 billion and $3.325 billion, an increase of 18.5% at the midpoint. We anticipate adjusted EPS between $1.53 and $1.63, up 24%-33%, and we anticipate adjusted EBITDA in the range of $543 million to $579 million, an increase of 22%-30%, and an EBITDA margin improvement of approximately 100 basis points at the midpoint of the range. With that, I would now like to open the call for questions. Operator00:08:45Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, you may signal by pressing STAR 1 on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Once again, STAR 1 for questions. We'll take our first question from Alexander Goldfarb with Piper Sandler. Alex GoldfarbManaging Director of Equity Research at Piper Sandler00:09:04Hey, morning. Alex GoldfarbManaging Director of Equity Research at Piper Sandler00:09:06Morning down there, Barry. I have two questions. The first question is on data centers. It's been a topic we've discussed before with you guys and certainly just seems to show no slowdown in investor and capital enthusiasm. As your team looks at the amount of capital that's been committed versus the ability to actually build data centers over the next foreseeable future, do you think all the capital can be put to work in the next, whatever, five, ten years? Is there a lot more capital raised versus the physical ability to actually build data centers? Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:09:44America is a big place. There is quite a bit of land, and there's quite a bit of gas, and there's an effort long term to build nuclear, both micro and large scale nuclear. We were just involved in a company going public building a nuclear plant in Texas. You were involved in a Series C, and then they were taken public. We'll see a lot more of that. On the exit, there'll be a lot of that in respect of some of these hyperscalers figuring a way to exit and raise more capital. There is an endless amount of interest in data centers. We produce about 3 GW a year, I think. I believe that's a number. We've seen people and estimates as high as 100 GW-200 GW of power. The country is going to require an enormous amount of infrastructure. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:10:46It's not just data centers, it's infrastructure, and infrastructure meaning nuclear plants and power plants and pipelines and data centers and quantum computing and a host of other things that surround it and support it on the industrial side of the business. Generally, if you look at the GDP, the GDP was primarily the investment in this kind of infrastructure. I think it has a lot of traction. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:11:18And. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:11:21As I said before, probably three quarters ago, if you believe in AI, you'll believe in the future. There is runway, Alex GoldfarbManaging Director of Equity Research at Piper Sandler00:11:29but do. Alex GoldfarbManaging Director of Equity Research at Piper Sandler00:11:31You think it's, I mean, the point is it sounds like there's, we all know there's a lot out there of potential needs. It just sounds like physically building the infrastructure, laying the utilities, building the power plants, all this stuff, it sounds like the capital has gotten ahead of itself. Do you think that's the case, or do you think that the capital raised can commensurately basically go into production pretty quickly? Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:11:58There is a lot of production going on, but there will be a lot more. I mean, the capital comes first. We're on the capital side, so that's good for us. Raising the capital, the build is good for us. I mean, just look at the numbers and the prediction. There's going to be a lot more capital required. I mean, on the end when it's built, we'll be there with financing and going public and doing all those kind of things. We're following the continuum. We'll be a beneficiary of the future, but we're also right there in the beginning. Alex GoldfarbManaging Director of Equity Research at Piper Sandler00:12:34Okay, and then the second question is, years ago, when you were investing in hiring a lot of different producers and expanding into new areas, acquiring smaller shops, there was a lot of drag initially from those hires. You spent the money to onboard them. It took a while for them to deliver. Recently, that seems to be a thing of the past. You guys have been expanding into Europe. You mentioned the expansion in India, et cetera. Is all of that drag that we experienced years ago when you were onboarding producers just a thing of the past, or has the company gotten big enough, or is it where the stock price is today? I'm just trying to understand because it's a pretty sharp contrast now as you grow and expand. It doesn't seem to have a slowdown to earnings, whereas years ago it did. Mike RispoliCFO at Newmark Group00:13:24Morning, Alex, it's Mike. I'll take that one. Of course, it still has a drag on earnings. We're going to grow nicely this year and expand our EBITDA margins by 100 basis points. Had we not been investing for the future, that could have been double the EBITDA expansion. What I would say is the investments we're making today, which are very purposeful and you can see we've accelerated as we move throughout this year, are going to result in 10% earnings improvement next year. That is our model. We're very intentional about it, and we can grow margin while expanding the business and continuing to invest. We'll continue to do that. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:14:06I mean, we are going to continue, we're going to continue to grow the company, Alex. There is still running room, there's still white space, and we are still putting all the pieces together to build a complete foundation. We're now winning more and seeing more, like I just said. What does that mean? That means we're going to have more market share on the things that we have now, put all the pieces together in whatever spectrum of activities that are required in that vertical. Once we're there, we pitch the business, we'll have a higher ratio of win rates and our volume will go up without any capital requirements. You could see in some of our businesses it's more apparent because we've already built it, it's happening. We're winning market share. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:14:59There are other verticals that we're working on, not to mention all of the recurring revenue businesses that are around the hoop and supporting all of the other businesses that we've created. Alex GoldfarbManaging Director of Equity Research at Piper Sandler00:15:10Thank you. Operator00:15:15We'll take our next question from Jade Rahmani with KBW. Jade RahmaniManaging Director of Equity Research at KBW00:15:20Thank you very much. The 2026 targets that Mike reiterated, when were those conceived? Mike RispoliCFO at Newmark Group00:15:30Morning, Jade. We've had those targets out there for a while, as you know. Certainly we'll get through the fourth quarter, and we'll give formal guidance for 2026 probably on our next earnings call. We feel very confident, and that's still double digit growth from the midpoint of our guidance range this year. We'll certainly reevaluate that next quarter. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:15:54Jade, it was a couple years ago. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:15:56You just look back at the earnings calls. We've predicted that for a while. Jade RahmaniManaging Director of Equity Research at KBW00:16:04Yes. What I'm trying to imply or suggest is that since they were created prior to the very robust growth that Newmark has demonstrated across its businesses, particularly Capital Markets, plus the data center fundraising wave in which Newmark is taking part, the outlook 2026, as previously mentioned, seems quite conservative. Growth coming out of serious recoveries tends to be a lot stronger than that. The recovery thus far, macro risks notwithstanding, seems to be gaining momentum. Do you believe that those targets are conservative and are you also seeing anything in the macro economy that would cause you to be erring on this side of caution? Mike RispoliCFO at Newmark Group00:17:00I would say it's always good to be a little cautious. Certainly, those are conservative targets. You know, we'll give you an update next quarter once we get through the full year. Jade RahmaniManaging Director of Equity Research at KBW00:17:12Thank you very much. Great job. Operator00:17:16We'll take our next question from Julien Blouin with Goldman Sachs. Julien BlouinVP of Real Estate Investment Research at Goldman Sachs00:17:22Hi, thank you for the question and congrats on the strong quarter. Barry, I wanted to ask about New York City. Third quarter CRE transactions and leasing in the city looked really strong, but we continue to hear signs that institutional investors, especially abroad, are maybe beginning to worry about political risk in the city related to the mayoral race, I guess. Are you seeing any sign of impact or any cautiousness from buyers in the city? Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:17:58Not really. I mean, there's a lot of noise around the mayor. As I said, probably two calls ago, the mayor has limited power. The governor's race, the governor really is the firewall for the city. That's really it. The federal government, on what, you know, how the federal government is going to treat New York, but that's New York State as well as New York. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:18:27So. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:18:31I believe it's a lot, it's just a lot of noise. New York is, New York is. The law firms are doing great. The financial institutions are all expanding, all of our clients are expanding. I don't really see it. Julien BlouinVP of Real Estate Investment Research at Goldman Sachs00:18:52Got it. Julien BlouinVP of Real Estate Investment Research at Goldman Sachs00:18:53That's helpful. Julien BlouinVP of Real Estate Investment Research at Goldman Sachs00:18:55Mike, can you help us understand maybe the cadence of Capital Markets across the quarter? Was September particularly strong given rates coming down? Did you see sort of a follow through of that activity into October, and how do pipelines compare to this time last year? Mike RispoliCFO at Newmark Group00:19:17I wouldn't say there was any particular, anything within months that would stand out. To me, it was a strong quarter across the board for us. The pipelines remain really strong into the fourth quarter. You could see that in our guidance, and we feel pretty good. We don't see anything in the market that is slowing transaction activity down at the moment. Julien BlouinVP of Real Estate Investment Research at Goldman Sachs00:19:43Okay, great, thank you. Operator00:19:46As a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please signal by pressing Star 1. We'll go next to Mitch Germain with Citizens Bank. Mitch GermainManaging Director of Real Estate Investment Research at Citizens Bank00:19:55Thank you and congrats on the quarter. Just maybe on the RealFoundations transaction, Barry, just maybe talk about, you know, kind of your view of the fit and potential to expand or cross sell that platform. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:20:13We look at ourselves as a pure play for the most part. We are designing a business to be able to be a partner with institutional investors to help them execute on their strategy. That means all things for them to help them leverage companies like us to be able to do more. What RealFoundations is, is both a consulting firm and a technology advisor. They implement and integrate, for example, MRI and Yardi, which are the two biggest technology platforms for investors and how they manage. They can go in and advise a company on which tech, how to integrate it, and how to get the maximum out of it. Now that's a piece of all the other things that we've done: real estate, property accounting, staffing, due diligence, cost monitoring. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:21:18All those pieces fit neatly together and bridge the gaps between a holistic solution as becoming the go-to firm. When a fund is thinking about how they want to operate, some would prefer to operate with everything in-house, and some prefer to operate with some of this outsourced. We hire great people. We bought great companies. Our strategy is about centers of excellence and people who are excellent. If we continue to hire the kind of talent that our clients rely on, we think we will be the go-to brand for that kind of business. We think that has enormous traction. We launched Fund Administration as well, and without RealFoundations, it would have been much harder for us to deliver on Fund Administration. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:22:13We put the pieces together very carefully, we thought about it, and we think we now have an incredible array of services to provide a very comprehensive solution. Mitch GermainManaging Director of Real Estate Investment Research at Citizens Bank00:22:28Great, that's super helpful. Lou AlvaradoCOO at Newmark Group00:22:32No, this is Lou Alvarado, if I can. Mitch GermainManaging Director of Real Estate Investment Research at Citizens Bank00:22:34Oh, sorry about that. Mitch GermainManaging Director of Real Estate Investment Research at Citizens Bank00:22:35My thoughts. Lou AlvaradoCOO at Newmark Group00:22:37The other value that we saw in RealFoundations is to augment our growth and occupier solutions. They were primarily investor focused, but we saw a lot of the skills that they have and the talent that they bring really blends well with our occupier platform as well. As we have significantly grown that and continue to focus on growing that, we think RealFoundations will be an excellent match for us. That was part of the reason why RealFoundations also picked us to be a partner with them in their growth as well as ours. Mitch GermainManaging Director of Real Estate Investment Research at Citizens Bank00:23:08Great, thanks for that perspective. Barry, obviously you've been making a lot of hires outside the U.S., opening new offices. I'm curious about your views about organically growing services platform, facilities management and other services versus more traditional brokerage and kind. Mitch GermainManaging Director of Real Estate Investment Research at Citizens Bank00:23:31Of how you view that organic growth. Mitch GermainManaging Director of Real Estate Investment Research at Citizens Bank00:23:33The timeline to augment those capabilities on a global scale. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:23:40It's accelerating. We're putting all the pieces together the same way we did on the investor side. We're doing it the same way on the facility management and the occupier solutions side. Lou's absolutely right. I mean, when you know, we have clients on the occupier side who use the same technology, and to be able to help them implement a technology strategy to manage their real estate better will give us a leg up on the competition. We need to be in the geographies, we need to be in all the verticals, and we need to be out there. I think that our reception in Europe has been incredible. The same, you know, the talented people want to be with us, and they're joining the firm because of how we approach the business. As I said, agile, accountable, nimble. We provide customized solutions. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:24:37It's easier for us to provide customized solutions for clients and not just a black box. We're not overly pregnant in certain areas, so it gives us the ability to be adaptable for our clients. You know, all the things are coming together, and as we continue to put in, you know, hit a geography and have that geography, we were invited to many more parties. Mitch GermainManaging Director of Real Estate Investment Research at Citizens Bank00:25:10Thank you. Operator00:25:14Thank you. We'll take a follow-up question from Jade Rahmani with KBW. Jade RahmaniManaging Director of Equity Research at KBW00:25:19Thank you very much. I just wanted to ask if there's anything in the fourth quarter 2024 comp period that you want to call out. For example, leasing commissions were up 15.1%, so that's a tougher comp than what you dealt with this quarter. Capital Markets of course was very strong last year, but given the strength this quarter, it seems achievable to exceed that. Anything on the, you know. Jade RahmaniManaging Director of Equity Research at KBW00:25:50Expense side, just so we're aware. Mike RispoliCFO at Newmark Group00:25:54Sure. I think generally Q4 is going to be a tougher comp for us. We were up 17% last year in 2024 in the fourth quarter. That's all been thought through and reflected in the guidance that we provided both in terms of top line and bottom line. The pipeline continues to remain strong and really it just comes down to when do transactions close. As you know, there's always some that are going to push out, some that are going to pull in. We thought through that as we gave you the guidance range that we put out today. Jade RahmaniManaging Director of Equity Research at KBW00:26:30Thanks very much. Operator00:26:33Thank you. We'll take a follow up question from Julien Blouin with Goldman Sachs. Julien BlouinVP of Real Estate Investment Research at Goldman Sachs00:26:40Thank you. Just a quick follow up, Barry, following on from Alex's question on data centers, your data center Capital Markets volumes have been really impressive this year, particularly on the financing side. Can you just maybe talk through the team you've built there, how you've been able to build such a dominant early foothold in the space? How should we think about the growth in data center financing volumes and investment sales going forward? Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:27:14You know what's interesting, a couple years ago we brought in experts in our valuation group that do risk assessment and stress testing for banks. The idea is to be early and early as often as you can. We saw signs of the, you know, the data center business. We acted quickly. That goes into the definition of nimble. We hired people quickly and we got in front of it and we have incredibly good people that can adapt as well. We put together an incredible team of people and we're still building it actually, you know, we're building more on the Leasing side of it because you're still going to have. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:28:11You. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:28:12Cloud computing, you're going to still have some of the old colocation facilities that are going to change out their racking systems to have better cooling and more capability for the new AI chipset that provide much more heat and a much higher level of computing. There is a whole business of adapting some of the old colocation facilities for the new environment, and we'll be involved in that kind of stuff. We still continue to hire good people. It's just all about talent. I mean, everything in all of our verticals, it's about getting the right people in the right place and not overcrowding. Julien BlouinVP of Real Estate Investment Research at Goldman Sachs00:29:00Thank you. Operator00:29:03Thank you. We'll take a follow up question from Alexander Goldfarb with Piper Sandler. Alex GoldfarbManaging Director of Equity Research at Piper Sandler00:29:09Hey, thank you. Barry, just want to continue that a while back, if my recollection is right, when you and I discussed this, there was the comparison to life science and how you didn't want to overcommit from an investment to data centers. Just given that real estate tends to follow boom bust cycles. Doesn't mean it's out. It just means, hey, there's a big boom and then there's a cooling and then it grows from there. Obviously life science went crazy during COVID and now it's dealing with the consequences. From a staffing level, are you now feeling more bullish that this has longer legs to hire more or you're still of that restraint mentality which is, hey, we don't want to get too far over our skis on this. It's a great sector. Every sector that has huge growth eventually has a cooling period. Alex GoldfarbManaging Director of Equity Research at Piper Sandler00:29:59We just want to maintain staffing appropriately. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:30:07We're always, we always view doing more with less. That's just our operating model. If you have great people, you can flex up and down. When you get overly committed on anything, it's hard to go the other way. We think we're appropriately staffed to scale now. We think there are parts of it that we could expand in the geographies, probably more on the Leasing side of the data center business. Money is fungible, it travels everywhere. We can do it with our team and flexing our team the way it is. Our strategy is more with less, not more. Alex GoldfarbManaging Director of Equity Research at Piper Sandler00:30:50Thank you. Operator00:30:57Thank you. With no additional questions in queue at this time, I'd like to turn the call back over to Barry Gosin for any additional or closing remarks. Barry GosinCEO at Newmark Group00:31:04Once again, I'd like to thank everybody for joining, and I look forward to updating you next quarter. Operator00:31:13That will conclude today's call. We appreciate your participation.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesLou AlvaradoCOOJason McGruderHead of Investor RelationsMike RispoliCFOBarry GosinCEOAnalystsAlex GoldfarbManaging Director of Equity Research at Piper SandlerJulien BlouinVP of Real Estate Investment Research at Goldman SachsMitch GermainManaging Director of Real Estate Investment Research at Citizens BankJade RahmaniManaging Director of Equity Research at KBWPowered by