NASDAQ:VNET VNET Group Q3 2025 Earnings Report $5.13 -0.42 (-7.57%) Closing price 10/2/2026 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$5.16 +0.03 (+0.55%) As of 10/2/2026 07:57 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast VNET Group EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.02Consensus EPS $0.02Beat/MissMet ExpectationsOne Year Ago EPSN/AVNET Group Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$362.63 millionExpected Revenue$335.87 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$26.76 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AVNET Group Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2025Date11/20/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateThursday, November 20, 2025Conference Call Time7:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsVNET Group's Q3 2026 earnings is estimated for Thursday, November 19, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled at 7:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (6-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by VNET Group Q3 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 20, 2025ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: Wholesale momentum — capacity in service rose 16.1% QoQ to 783 MW with utilization at 74.3%, and wholesale revenue surged 82.7% YoY to RMB 955.5 million, driving rapid top-line growth. Positive Sentiment: Profitability and guidance upgrade — adjusted EBITDA rose 27.5% YoY to RMB 758.3 million and the company raised full‑year guidance to RMB 9.55–9.867 billion revenue and RMB 2.91–2.945 billion adjusted EBITDA. Neutral Sentiment: Liquidity and leverage — strong operating cash inflow of RMB 809.8 million in Q3 and cash/short‑term investments of RMB 5.33 billion, while net debt/TTM adjusted EBITDA is 5.5 and total debt/TTM adjusted EBITDA is 6.7. Positive Sentiment: CapEx and resource pipeline — YTD CapEx was RMB 6.24 billion with FY guidance of RMB 10–12 billion to support large-scale wholesale expansion; total wholesale resources on hand are ~1.8 gigawatts with ~306 MW under construction and ~306 MW planned for delivery over the next 12 months. Positive Sentiment: Funding strategy and REITs — pursuing further private REIT issuances for wholesale assets (exchange review; targeted Q1 issuance) and exploring public REITs/domestic bond issuance (domestic operating entity received a high rating), with management saying the new private REITs will be consolidated into group financials. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallVNET Group Q3 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by for the third quarter 2025 earnings conference call for VNET Group. After the management's prepared remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. Please note the Chinese line is in listen-only mode. If you wish to ask questions, please dial in through the English line. Participants from our management include Mr. Ju Ma, Rotating President; Mr. Qiyu Wang, Chief Financial Officer; Ms. Shengguang Liu, Head of Investor Relations of the company. Please note that today's conference call is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to the first speaker today, Ms. Shengguang Liu. Please go ahead. Shengguang LiuHead of Investor Relations at VNET Group00:00:48Thank you, our pre-turn. Hello, everyone, and welcome to our third quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Our earnings release was distributed earlier today, and you can find a copy on our ARRIVE site as well as on NewsWire services. Please note that today's call will contain forward-looking statements within the safe harbor provisions of the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. For detailed discussions of these risks and uncertainties, please refer to our latest annual report and other documents filed with the SEC. VNET does not undertake any obligations to update any forward-looking statements except as required under applicable laws. Please also note that VNET's earnings press release and this conference call include the disclosure of unaudited GAAP and non-GAAP financial matters. Shengguang LiuHead of Investor Relations at VNET Group00:01:46VNET's earnings press release contains a reconciliation of the unaudited non-GAAP matters to the unaudited GAAP matters. A summary presentation, which we will refer to during this conference call, can be viewed and downloaded from our ARRIVE site at ir.vnet.com. Next, I'd like to alert you that we will be utilizing text-to-speech technology powered by Neulink.ai to deliver this quarter's prepared remarks by Mr. Ju Ma, our Rotating President, and Mr. Qiyu Wang, our CFO. The management team will join the Q&A session in person. Additionally, this conference is being recorded. A webcast of this conference call will also be available on our ARRIVE site at ir.vnet.com. Now, let's get started with today's presentation. Mr. Ma, please go ahead. Ju MaRotating President at VNET Group00:02:40Good morning and good evening, everyone. Thank you for joining our call today. I'll start with an overview of our major accomplishments during the third quarter of 2025. Let's turn to slide four. We delivered another strong quarter, demonstrating our strategy's effectiveness in capturing opportunities. On the operational side, our wholesale IDC business sustained its robust growth trajectory, driven by our rapid delivery capabilities and customers' fast-moving pace. As of September 30, 2025, our wholesale capacity in service grew by 16.1% quarter over quarter to 783 megawatts, an increase of around 109 megawatts. Wholesale capacity utilized by customers rose by 13.8% quarter over quarter to 582 megawatts, an increase of around 70 megawatts, while the utilization rate was 74.3%, reflecting customers' continuous demand for our high-quality, high-performance AIDC services. Our retail IDC business continued to progress smoothly, benefiting from growing AI-driven demand. Ju MaRotating President at VNET Group00:03:58This quarter, our retail MRR per cabinet increased for six consecutive quarters, reaching RMB 8,948. On the financial side, our total net revenues increased by 21.7% year over year to RMB 2.58 billion for the third quarter. Wholesale revenues remained our key growth driver, reaching RMB 956 million, a significant year-over-year increase of 82.7%. Fueled by the rapid growth of our wholesale IDC business, our adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter also increased by 27.5% year over year to RMB 758 million. In addition, building on the increase we announced to our full-year guidance before Q2 earnings this year, we are further increasing our full-year revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance this quarter, thanks to faster-than-anticipated movings among wholesale IDC customers and ongoing operational efficiency gains, supported by our premium wholesale and retail IDC services. We continue to capitalize on strong customer momentum and secure new orders in the third quarter. Ju MaRotating President at VNET Group00:05:15I'll share more on the next slide. Moving on to our new order wins on slide five. In the third quarter, we secured three wholesale orders totaling 63 MW. Specifically, in addition to the 20 MW order from our JV project we mentioned on our last call, we won a 40 MW order from an internet company, as announced in September, and a 3 MW order from an intelligent driving company, all for data centers in the Greater Beijing area. Entering the fourth quarter, we are seeing continued order momentum, including a 32 MW wholesale order we just secured from an internet company for a data center in the Yangtze River Delta. Furthermore, driven by growing demand from customers for intelligent deployment, we secured a combined capacity of approximately 2 MW in new retail orders across multiple retail data centers from customers in the cloud services, local services, and financial services sectors. Ju MaRotating President at VNET Group00:06:23During the quarter, rapid AI development and broader adoption of AI applications continued to fuel growth in China's IDC industry. We saw sustained momentum in AI-related investments, especially from hyperscalers that are executing strong CapEx expansion plans. This has further accelerated demand for high-performance data centers. Driven by AI training and inference needs, AI has become the core growth driver of the IDC industry, propelling the industry's business model evolution from product-based resource delivery to platform-based services that provide integrated AIDC solutions. Meanwhile, customer demand and critical resources, such as power, are increasingly concentrated among leading IDC players. As an industry pioneer in AIDC development, we're leveraging our acute insights, strong resources, and premium, reliable services to seize these structural growth opportunities by quickly meeting customers' needs. Now, let's delve into our business updates, starting with our wholesale business on slide seven. Ju MaRotating President at VNET Group00:07:37Our wholesale business maintained strong growth momentum, with capacity in service increasing by around 109 MW quarter over quarter to 783 MW, and utilization rate remaining stable at 74.3%, mainly attributable to our delivery capacities at our NOR Campus 02 and NHB Campus 01A, and faster-than-expected movings at our NOR Campus 01. Our mature capacity utilization rate also reached 94.7%, a relatively high level. We have a clear growth path for our wholesale data center capacity. Let's move on to slide eight. As of the end of the third quarter, our total wholesale resource capacity was around 1.8 GW. Specifically, our capacity under construction was around 306 MW. Capacity held for short-term future development was around 414 megawatts, and capacity held for long-term future development was around 291 megawatts. Ju MaRotating President at VNET Group00:08:49These secured resources represent a significant advantage in light of the IDC industry's limited effective supply and are in line with our optimistic view of AI-driven demand's long-term growth potential. Moving to our retail IDC business on slide nine. Our retail business continued to progress smoothly in the third quarter. Retail capacity in service was 52,288 cabinets, with the utilization rate increasing slightly to 64.8% as of the end of September. As I just mentioned, our retail MRR per cabinet has increased for six consecutive quarters, reaching RMB 8,948. Turning to our delivery plan on Slide 10. With our strong and efficient delivery capabilities, we successfully delivered a total of around 109 megawatts in the third quarter of 2023, bringing our total deliveries around 297 MW as of the end of September this year. Ju MaRotating President at VNET Group00:09:56We currently have seven data centers under construction, with six in the Greater Beijing area and one in the Yangtze River Delta. We plan to deliver around 306 MW of capacity over the next 12 months, or around 132 MW during the fourth quarter of 2025 and the first quarter of 2026, and around 174 MW during the second and third quarters of 2026. This delivery plan reflects our view as of the end of September, but we may update these estimates as we gain greater visibility over the next couple of quarters. In conclusion, our strong third-quarter results showcase our ability to identify opportunities and our readiness to seamlessly meet evolving market demand. Our visionary Hyperscale 2.0 framework has positioned us to lead under the new global AI-driven paradigm, supported by advantages across high-density deployment, delivery speed and quality, and cutting-edge sustainable technology. Ju MaRotating President at VNET Group00:11:05As AI-related demand grows, we will continue to advance our effective dual-core strategy and Hyperscale 2.0 framework, seizing opportunities to further unleash our growth potential in the AI era. Now, I will turn the call over to our CFO, Qiyu Wang, for further discussion of our operating and financial performance. Thank you, everyone. Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:11:31Good morning and good evening, everyone. Before we start the detailed discussion of our third-quarter performance, please note that, unless otherwise stated, all the financials we present today are for the third quarter of 2025 and are in RMB terms. Furthermore, unless otherwise specified, all the growth rates I am reviewing are on a year-over-year basis. Let's turn to slide twelve. In the third quarter, we continued to pursue high-quality business. Our total net revenues increased by 21.7% to RMB 2.58 billion, mainly driven by the rapid growth of our wholesale business. Our adjusted cash gross profit rose by 22.1% to RMB 1.05 billion, while our adjusted EBITDA also grew year-over-year by 27.5% to RMB 758.3 million. Let's look more closely at our top line. Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:12:29As you can see on slide thirteen, in the third quarter, wholesale revenues, our key revenue growth driver, increased significantly by 82.7% to RMB 955.5 million, and the rapid growth was mainly attributable to the NOR Campus 01. Retail revenues increased by 2.4% to RMB 999.1 million. Our non-IDC business revenues increased by 0.8% to RMB 627.1 million. During the third quarter, we maintained solid margins thanks to our continuous efforts to enhance overall efficiency. As shown on slide fourteen, our adjusted cash gross margins improved to 40.7% from 40.6% in the same period last year. Our adjusted EBITDA margin rose to 29.4%, compared with 28% in the same period last year. Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:13:23Moving on to liquidity on slide fifteen, we maintained robust and healthy liquidity, bolstered by a net operating cash inflow of RMB 809.8 million during the third quarter, bringing our net operating cash flow for the first nine months of the year to RMB 1.37 billion. Our cash position remained solid, with total cash and cash equivalents, restricted cash, and short-term investments reaching RMB 5.33 billion as of September 30, 2025. Next, let's take a look at our debt structure on slide sixteen. We maintained our prudent approach to debt management. As of September 30, 2025, our net debt to the trailing twelve months Adjusted EBITDA ratio was 5.5, and total debt to the trailing twelve months Adjusted EBITDA ratio was 6.7, both remaining at healthy levels. Our trailing twelve months Adjusted EBITDA to interest coverage ratio was 6.5. Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:14:20We prioritize long-term debt maturity planning in our debt and strategic management to ensure the security of debt repayment. Currently, the company's short and medium-term debt maturing in 2025-2027 comprises 41.4% of our total debt. Turning now to CapEx spending, as you can see on slide seventeen, for the first nine months, our CapEx was RMB 6.24 billion, with the majority allocated to the expansion of our wholesale IDC business. We still expect our CapEx for the full year 2025 to be in the range of RMB 10 billion-RMB 12 billion. The increase is mainly to support our planned delivery of 400-450 MW in 2025. Now, moving to our full-year guidance for 2025 on slide eighteen. Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:15:10As we expect faster-than-anticipated movings among wholesale IDC customers and ongoing operational efficiency gains through the end of the year, we have further increased our full-year revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance. We now expect total net revenues to be in the range of RMB 9.55 billion-RMB 9.867 billion, a year-over-year increase of 16%-19%, and adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of RMB 2.91 billion-RMB 2.945 billion, representing a year-over-year increase of 20%-21%. If the RMB 87.7 million of disposal gains on the EJS02 data center were excluded from the adjusted EBITDA calculation for 2024, the year-over-year growth rate would be 24%-26%. Please note our updated guidance factors in the impact of the private REIT transactions we issued early this November and excludes the target IDC project's financials from our consolidated financial statements. Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:16:13Before I conclude, I'd like to briefly update you on our ESG efforts. Our outstanding sustainability performance has once again earned recognition from a leading global rating institution. In the 2025 S&P Global Corporate Sustainability Assessment, VNET score increased to 73 from 70 last year, ranking among the top 8% of the IT service industry globally. We stand out in areas including risk management, information security, environmental management, and customer relations, underscoring our comprehensive capabilities in sustainability development. This quarter's strong growth and enhanced profitability are yet another testament to our high-quality growth strategy. Looking ahead, we will continue to consolidate our core strengths and capture growth opportunities, delivering sustainable long-term value for all stakeholders. This concludes our prepared remarks for today. We are now ready to take questions. Operator00:17:15Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. If you wish to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. If you wish to cancel your request, please press star two. If you're on a speakerphone, please pick up the handset to ask your question. For the benefit of all participants on today's call, please ask your question to management in English and then repeat in Chinese. Your first question, it comes from Tom Tang from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Tom TangAnalyst at Morgan Stanley00:17:52Thanks, management, for this opportunity to ask questions, and congrats again on a very strong quarterly result. I have two questions. The first question is more on the 2026 outlook. We're hearing that there has been some expansion in the domestic chips and capacities. Just wondering, what is our current outlook for the overall order tendering in 2026? The second question is about private REITs. 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Thank you very much. As we are approaching the end of the year, we are engaging our customers and trying to learn about their development path. This would put us in a well-positioned to plan our resources accordingly. According to our communications with the clients and also the current status quo of the pipeline, we believe that the market will be fairly stable with moderate increase for the year 2023. According to our conversations with the clients, we feel that they are having very detailed expansion plan or growth nationwide. Therefore, we have to plan carefully in order to accommodate the users' needs because they are requiring us to deliver the capacities at a faster pace with a higher requirement. That is why we are planning accordingly as well. 00:22:55The overall reading for the next year is that the market is going to be stable with a moderate increase. With regard to your second question on the domestic chip, we VNET are tracking and monitoring the development of the domestic chips very closely. We know that the sector is evolving very quickly with a lot more options available. We believe that in 2026, we are going to see intensive competition among domestic chip players. Other than the two to three major players, there are more upcoming players coming into the market. We are going to see significant growth development in this sector. That would give us, give the customers a lot more choices with more certainty. Again, that would push the development or in return drive the development of our business. Thank you. 我æ¥è¯´ä¸€ä¸‹åˆšæ‰ä½ 问到的REITs的情况。确实是我们这两个项目是我们继我们首个ç§å‹ŸREITs试水æˆåŠŸä»¥åŽæŽ¨å‡ºçš„ã€‚é‚£æˆ‘ä»¬é¦–ä¸ªé¡¹ç›®çš„åº•å±‚èµ„äº§æ˜¯åŸŽå¸‚åž‹çš„IDC。那这次这两个项目的底层资产呢都是基地型的。这也是我们首次实现基地型的项目通过这个ç§å‹ŸREITs的方å¼å¤§è§„模的å‘行。那如果这两个项目å¯ä»¥é¡ºåˆ©çš„å‘行æˆåŠŸå‘¢ï¼Œä¹Ÿæ ‡å¿—ç€æˆ‘们基地型的业务就完æˆäº†å¼€å‘ã€æŒæœ‰ã€éƒ¨åˆ†é€€å‡ºå’Œé•¿æœŸè¿è¥çš„资本é—环。 This is Qiyu Wang. Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:24:35I'll take your second question with regard to the REITs projects. These two REITs projects followed on the heel of our first private REITs projects. The underlying project for our first REITs project was retail IDC, whereas the underlying assets for these two REITs projects are wholesale IDCs. This would be the first time that we have scaled private REITs issuance with underlying assets of wholesale IDCs. If these issuance were too successful, this would officially mark that we have completed the full closed-loop capital cycle of development, holding, partial exit, as well as the long-term operation. 这两个项目目å‰è¿˜éƒ½åœ¨äº¤æ˜“æ‰€è¿›è¡Œå®¡æ‰¹ã€‚é‚£æˆ‘ä»¬é¢„è®¡ä¼°å€¼çš„å€æ•°ä¼šæ˜¾è‘—的优于我们刚刚å‘行的这个项目。而且这两个项目å‘行以åŽï¼Œä¸åŒäºŽæˆ‘们的第一个项目,世纪互è”都会继ç»åˆå¹¶ä¼šè®¡æŠ¥è¡¨ã€‚也就是说这两个项目的å‘行对我们æŸç›Šè¡¨ä¸Šé¢çš„æ”¶å…¥å’ŒEBITDAæ•°æ®åˆå¹¶æ•°æ®ä¸ä¼šæœ‰å½±å“ã€‚è€Œä¸”ä¹‹åŽæˆ‘们类似基地型的项目的类似产å“çš„å‘行也都会延ç»è¿™ç§åˆå¹¶æŠ¥è¡¨å¹¶è¡¨å‘行的模å¼ã€‚é‚£æˆ‘ä»¬çŽ°åœ¨çš„ç›®æ ‡æ˜¯åœ¨ä¸€å£åº¦å®Œæˆè¿™ä¸ªå‘行。 These two REITs projects are currently being reviewed by the exchanges, and the expected valuation multiples would be better than the first REITs project. Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:26:23Once the two REITs projects were successfully issued, we will, unlike the first REITs project, consolidate the financial statements of these two projects into the group-level financial statements. Therefore, it would not impact the group-level financial statements, specifically the revenue or EBITDA data. We are planning to adopt a similar approach with future private REITs projects with underlying assets of wholesale IDCs. Our goal is to complete the issuance by Q1 next year. Operator00:26:59Next question. Shengguang LiuHead of Investor Relations at VNET Group00:27:02Thank you. Your next question comes from Timothy Zhao from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Timothy ZhaoAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:27:09Great. Thank you, Management, for taking my question, and congrats on the very solid results. Two questions here. One is regarding, I think, just earlier Management mentioned that we have seemed to receive more orders for—hello? Operator00:27:35Yeah, we can hear you now. Timothy ZhaoAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:27:38Okay. Yeah. I was saying that VNET appears to be, we need more orders in your wholesale campuses in Hebei and Jiangsu. From the geographical location perspective, how do you think about the customer preferences and what kind of demand does each campus serve differently? That's my first question. My second question is regarding the pricing. It's for the wholesale business. I noticed that for this quarter, there is some fluctuation in the wholesale MRR. Just wondering, how do you think about the pricing trend into the fourth quarter and next year for the wholesale business? 那我很快翻译一下。感谢管ç†å±‚æŽ¥å—æˆ‘çš„æé—®ï¼Œä¹Ÿç¥è´ºéžå¸¸ç¨³å¥çš„一个å£åº¦çš„业绩。那我这边有两æ¡é—®é¢˜ã€‚é‚£ç¬¬ä¸€æ¡æ˜¯follow up刚刚管ç†å±‚èŠåˆ°çš„,那现在客户对于市ä¸å¿ƒçš„颗粒度会å˜å¾—比较的高。那特别是对于ä¸åŒåœ°ç‚¹çš„基地型的市ä¸å¿ƒï¼Œæƒ³è¯·æ•™ä¸€ä¸‹ï¼Œé‚£å®¢æˆ·çš„å好考虑分别有哪些?那在我们ä¸åŒçš„区域的基地里é¢ï¼Œé‚£å®¢æˆ·çš„需求有哪些ä¸åŒï¼Ÿè¿™æ˜¯ç¬¬ä¸€ä¸ªé—®é¢˜ã€‚那第二个问题是想请教一下关于我们的基地型数æ®ä¸å¿ƒçš„ä»·æ ¼ã€‚é‚£æˆ‘ä»¬çœ‹åˆ°ä¸‰å£åº¦å¯èƒ½æœ‰ä¸€äº›çŽ¯æ¯”å’ŒåŒæ¯”的波动。那想请教一下我们对于四å£åº¦ä»¥åŠæ˜Žå¹´æ•´ä¸ªåŸºåœ°åž‹æ•°æ®ä¸å¿ƒçš„ä»·æ ¼è¶‹åŠ¿æ˜¯æ€Žä¹ˆåˆ¤æ–的?谢谢。 Timothy ZhaoAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:29:03好,谢谢。我æ¥å›žç”æ‚¨è¿™ä¸ªé—®é¢˜ã€‚ç¬¬ä¸€ä¸ªå°±åƒæ‚¨åˆšæ‰è°ˆåˆ°çš„,就是现在客户在全国范围内他的订å•呢,他是对ä¸åŒçš„区域是有自己的考é‡ã€‚那其实客户呢,他本身æ¥è®²å¹¶æ²¡æœ‰ä»€ä¹ˆæ˜Žæ˜¾çš„åå¥½ï¼Œè€Œæ˜¯æ ¹æ®ä»–自己的业务类型ã€ç¦»ä»–总部的地点,包括他原有的内容ã€åŽŸæœ‰çš„å®¹é‡è¿›è¡Œæ‰©å®¹çš„ä¾¿åˆ©åº¦ï¼Œè¿™å‡ ä¸ªç»´åº¦æ¥è¿›è¡Œè€ƒé‡çš„。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:29:33I'll take your first question. Actually, the client takes specific considerations with regard to their orders for their business across different regions. They do not have very particular preferences. I think the major considerations on their end is first the type of business and product offerings, second the distance or proximity to their headquarter, and the third is how convenient it is to scale up the existing capacity that they have with us. Timothy ZhaoAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:30:07对,å¦å¤–一个呢,就是您å¯ä»¥çœ‹åˆ°ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯ä»¥æˆ‘们公å¸ä¸ºä¾‹ï¼Œé‚£å®¢æˆ·åœ¨ä¸åŒçš„地点æ¥é‡Šæ”¾è®¢å•的节å¥å‘¢ï¼Œä¹Ÿæ˜¯ä¸ä¸€æ ·çš„。一般呢,æ¯ä¸ªå£åº¦å‘¢éƒ½ä¼šæœ‰ä¸€äº›å˜åŒ–。那从我们æ¥è®²ï¼Œæ‚¨çŸ¥é“我们在环京地区的这个基地以åŠé•¿ä¸‰è§’地区的基地呢,承接现在主è¦å®¢æˆ·çš„éœ€æ±‚æ¯”è¾ƒå¤šã€‚é‚£åŒæ—¶å‘¢ï¼Œåœ¨æˆ‘们的具体到在比方说河北地区,比方说乌兰察布地区呢,客户呢释放呢也是有他的节å¥ã€‚这个呢是从我们æ¥çœ‹ï¼Œä¸€ä¸ªä¸€æ–¹é¢å‘¢æ˜¯ä¸»è¦æ˜¯å®¢æˆ·è‡ªå·±æ ¹æ®è‡ªå·±çš„ä¸šåŠ¡ï¼Œæ¯”æ–¹è¯´ä»–å¯¹å®žéªŒçš„è¦æ±‚ï¼Œä»–ä¼šé€‰æ‹©å°±è¿‘çš„åœ°ç‚¹ã€‚åŒæ—¶å‘¢ï¼Œä¹Ÿæœ‰ä¸€ä¸ªå¾ˆé‡è¦çš„考é‡å‘¢ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯å®¢æˆ·çš„æ‰©å®¹ï¼Œä»–的就近的扩容的这个需求。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:30:57Take VNET for example. We have observed that clients have different types of pace with regard to their requests across different regions. It would vary quarter by quarter. We have a lot of the demand coming from the Greater Beijing Area as well as the Yangtze River Delta area. However, we do have upcoming new demands from customers for campuses in Hebei Province as well as the Ulanqab campus. Like I said, the major considerations on the client side are their current product offerings and the proximity to their headquarters as well as how convenient it is to scale their existing capacity with us. That is the major consideration on their end. Based on that, they are varying their requests quarter by quarter. Timothy ZhaoAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:31:53æ‚¨è¿˜åŒæ—¶ä¹Ÿé—®åˆ°äº†å…³äºŽçŽ°åœ¨ä»·æ ¼çš„ä¸€äº›æƒ…å†µã€‚é‚£é¦–å…ˆå‘¢ï¼Œæˆ‘æƒ³è·Ÿæ‚¨åˆ†äº«çš„æ˜¯ä»Žç›®å‰ç‰¹åˆ«æ˜¯Q3æ¥çœ‹ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬çš„ä»·æ ¼å‘¢ï¼Œç‰¹åˆ«æ˜¯åŸºåœ°åž‹é¡¹ç›®çš„ä»·æ ¼å‘¢ï¼Œæ˜¯ä¿æŒéžå¸¸å¹³ç¨³çš„这个æ€åŠ¿ã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:32:11With regard to the pricing of our wholesale IDCs, according to what we have observed, the pricing for Q3 was fairly stable. Timothy ZhaoAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:32:21那我愿æ„å‘¢å†ç¨å¾®çš„åšä¸¤ç‚¹è¯´æ˜Žã€‚第一个呢,就是由于客户呢,他的上架节å¥å‘¢ï¼Œä¸€èˆ¬å‘¢ä¼šé«˜äºŽä»–的预期,高于我们的预期。所以使得呢,我们的项目的IR呢,普é呢会好于我们的预期。这是第一个åšçš„补充说明。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:32:40I would like to elaborate on that. First, customers are moving in faster than we expected. Therefore, the IR of these projects are better than we expected. Timothy ZhaoAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:32:50那第二个我也éžå¸¸å¦è¯šçš„跟您交æµå‘¢ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯ç¡®ç¡®å®žå®žå…¬å¸åœ¨ç‰¹åˆ«æ˜¯èµ„æºç›¸å¯¹ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯æ•´ä½“的市场供求关系平衡,资æºç”šè‡³æœ‰ç•¥æ˜¾ç´§å¼ 地区æ¥è®²ï¼Œä¸–纪互è”呢,我们确实我们ä¸é‡‡å–所谓低价的ç–略呢,æ¥å‚ä¸Žå®¢æˆ·çš„ä¸€äº›æŠ•æ ‡å·¥ä½œã€‚æ‰€ä»¥ä»Žè¿™è§’åº¦æ¥çœ‹ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬è¿˜æ˜¯ä¿æŒç€æˆ‘ä»¬çš„æŠ•æ ‡ä»·æ ¼ä»¥åŠæˆäº¤ä»·æ ¼çš„。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:33:18Number two, frankly speaking, in areas where the dynamics of supply and demand is in tight balance, VNET do not engage in the biddings with low prices. Therefore, we are able to secure fairly stable order or contract price. Timothy ZhaoAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:33:38好,谢谢。 Thank you. Operator00:33:39Next question. Shengguang LiuHead of Investor Relations at VNET Group00:33:42Thank you. Your next question comes from Dean Liu from Bank of America. Please go ahead. Dean LiuAssistant Vice President, Enterprise Credit at Bank of America00:33:50Hi, Management. Thanks for taking my question. Congrats on the strong results. I have two questions here. First one is in our last earnings call, we mentioned we have a few projects and we are participating for the tendering. Could you update us the progress and how we complete all the projects ongoing, or how many projects we are doing with our clients? In future, how do you see the seasonality of more tendering in future? My second question is about the new land and power resources. In this quarter, we see our total resources on hand is likely stable. In future, where would we, which area will be our focus to find more resources, land and power? 好的,我这边翻译一下。æå–œç®¡ç†å±‚这个éžå¸¸è¯¦ç»†çš„业绩。第一个问题想请问就是上个业绩会我们æåˆ°å°±æ˜¯è¯´æˆ‘们有å‚åŠ äº†ä¸€äº›å®¢æˆ·çš„ä¸€äº›ç«žæ ‡çš„ä¸€ä¸ªå·¥ä½œã€‚æƒ³é—®ä¸€ä¸‹è¿™äº›çš„è¿›å±•çŽ°åœ¨éƒ½æ˜¯å¯èƒ½æœ‰äº›é¡¹ç›®å·²ç»å®Œæˆäº†ï¼Œè¿˜æœ‰å“ªäº›å¯èƒ½åœ¨è°ˆçš„过程ä¸ï¼Ÿæœªæ¥æˆ‘们这个新订å•客户å‘å•的这个å£èŠ‚æ€§ï¼Œå¤§æ¦‚å¯èƒ½æœªæ¥è¿™ä¸€å¹´çš„æˆ–者说这åŠå¹´æ˜¯æ€Žä¹ˆåŽ»é¢„æœŸçš„ï¼Ÿç„¶åŽå…¶æ¬¡å°±ç¬¬äºŒä¸ªé—®é¢˜æ˜¯å…³äºŽæˆ‘们的资æºã€‚ç›®å‰ä¸‰å£åº¦æ¥çœ‹ï¼ŒäºŒå£åº¦æ˜¯å¤§æ¦‚平稳的状æ€ã€‚æœªæ¥æˆ‘们对新的这个电力还有这个土地资æºï¼Œè¿™ä¸ªæœªæ¥åŽ»èŽ·å¾—æ›´å¤šèµ„æºï¼Œè¿™ä¸ªæ˜¯æ€Žä¹ˆè€ƒè™‘的?哪些地域是我们å¯èƒ½é‡ç‚¹å޻开å‘,或者说我们现有的一些地方?好,谢谢。 Dean LiuAssistant Vice President, Enterprise Credit at Bank of America00:35:46好,谢谢您的问题。我æ¥å›žç”您的问题。关于第一个问题呢,就å‰é¢æˆ‘也ç¨å¾®æè¿°ä¸€ä¸‹ã€‚我在这儿å†è·Ÿæ‚¨åšä¸€ä¸ªè§£é‡Šå’Œè¯´æ˜Žã€‚就是从å‘展趋势æ¥çœ‹ï¼Œç¡®ç¡®å®žå®žåœ¨2025年的一二三个å£åº¦å‘¢ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯å®¢æˆ·å‘¢ï¼Œé‡Šæ”¾çš„需求呢,是éšç€ä¸åŒçš„客户,他有ä¸åŒçš„节å¥ï¼Œé‡Šæ”¾çš„ä¸åŒçš„é‡ã€‚我们紧跟客户的这些节å¥å‘¢ï¼Œæ¥æŠ“ä½å®¢æˆ·çš„需求,æ¥ç»™å®¢æˆ·æä¾›è¿™ä¸ªæœåŠ¡ã€‚é‚£ä¹ˆæ‚¨å¯ä»¥çœ‹åˆ°ï¼Œæˆ‘åšäº†ä¸€ä¸ªç®€è¦çš„ç»Ÿè®¡ï¼Œå°±ä»Žä»Šå¤©å¾€å‰æŽ¨ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬å‰12个月呢,我们总共获得订å•呢,超过了331兆瓦。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:36:28Thank you for questions. As we have observed for the first three quarters, different customers are coming up with different requests at different paces. For us, we follow their paces closely. I have did a very brief summary for what we have achieved in terms of the new orders that we have secured for the past 12 months. That was 331 megawatts. Dean LiuAssistant Vice President, Enterprise Credit at Bank of America00:36:58那展望åŽ12个月,当然包括2026年,我们觉得我们现在对于客户的æœåŠ¡è®¤çŸ¥ä½¿å¾—æˆ‘ä»¬æœ‰ä¿¡å¿ƒå‘¢ï¼Œç¬¬ä¸€ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬æœ‰ä¿¡å¿ƒåœ¨åŽ12ä¸ªæœˆå‘¢ï¼Œä¿æŒä½å…¬å¸çš„这一å‘展的势头和这个订å•的数é‡ã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:37:18Looking ahead to 2026, based on the services we are offering to our clients as well as the understanding of our clients, we are confident that we are able to sustain this growth momentum. Dean LiuAssistant Vice President, Enterprise Credit at Bank of America00:37:33åŒæ—¶æˆ‘们在æœåŠ¡å®¢æˆ·åŸºåœ°åž‹é¡¹ç›®çš„åŒæ—¶ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬ä¹Ÿå¯†åˆ‡å…³æ³¨å®¢æˆ·ä»¥åŠæ•´ä½“çš„AIçš„å‘展的趋势。那么我们也认为呢,éšç€AIçš„é€æ¥çš„æŽ¨è¿›ï¼Œç‰¹åˆ«æ˜¯è®ç»ƒå’ŒæŽ¨ç†ï¼Œå¹³è¡¡æŽ¨ç†é€æ¸æˆä¸ºæ–°çš„增长引擎,这些特点呢,我们也在这个预判到这一趋势以åŽï¼Œæˆ‘们也在资æºçš„部署ã€åŸŽå¸‚åž‹çš„æ”¹é€ ï¼Œä»¥åŠå‘¢ï¼Œæˆ‘们对于GPU的判æ–,我们会ä¿ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬å¯¹è¿™ä¸ªä¿¡å¿ƒå‘¢ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬å¯¹è¿™ä¸ªåˆ¤æ–æ˜¯æœ‰ä¿¡å¿ƒçš„。我们也相信éšç€è¿™äº›éœ€æ±‚çš„é€æ¥çš„释放,特别是大客户将这个è®ç»ƒæŽ¨ç†ã€ç§æœ‰åŒ–部署ã€ç¾¤ä½“æ™ºèƒ½çš„é€æ¥çš„é‡Šæ”¾ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬æœ‰ä¿¡å¿ƒå‘¢ï¼Œä¿æŒè¿™ä¸€æ•°å—。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:38:30With regard to the wholesale IDCs, we have been following closely the client's AI development trend. We have noticed that customers are actually balancing their inferencing and training demands. We have captured that change. The customers are pivoting more towards the inferencing, and we are deploying resources accordingly to meet that customer's needs. Therefore, we are repurposing some of our cabinets and acquiring GPUs in advance. This would put us in a good position to accommodate our users' needs. Particularly with these orders from the key clients, we are confident that with the efforts on our end, we are able to accommodate users' needs as the AI growth momentum continues to unleash. Dean LiuAssistant Vice President, Enterprise Credit at Bank of America00:39:27è°¢è°¢ã€‚æˆ‘å›žç”æ‚¨ç¬¬äºŒä¸ªé—®é¢˜ã€‚这个问题呢,是éžå¸¸å…³é”®ï¼Œä»¥åŠå‘¢ï¼Œæ˜¯å…¬å¸å‘¢ï¼Œè€ƒé‡æ¯”较多的一个问题。首先想跟您说明一下,就是除了我们会通过和客户的æœåŠ¡å’Œè¿‘è·ç¦»çš„æŽ¥è§¦å‘¢ï¼Œæˆ‘们会准备好明年的这个工作和资æºçš„åŒæ—¶å‘¢ï¼Œå…¬å¸å·²ç»å°†æœªæ¥çš„五年作为我们今åŽå‘展的一个基本时间长度æ¥è§„划和获å–资æºã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:40:08With regard to your second question on resources that we are planning to acquire in the future, that's something that the company values a lot and puts a lot of thought in. Based on the service that we offer to our clients, as well as the understanding that we have on them, we are planning our resources for the next year. On top of that, we have extended our planning over to a five-year horizon rather than on a yearly basis. This would allow us to plan more strategically to accommodate users' needs. Dean LiuAssistant Vice President, Enterprise Credit at Bank of America00:40:41è€ƒè™‘åˆ°äº”å¹´å‘¢ï¼Œæœ‰å‡ ä¸ªåŸºæœ¬çš„è€ƒé‡ã€‚第一个,客户的通算和测算的æœåŠ¡çš„æ¯”ä¾‹ã€‚ç¬¬äºŒä¸ªå°±æ˜¯å®¢æˆ·åœ¨ä¸åŒåŒºåŸŸä»–对资æºçš„需求。第三个æ¥è®²å°±æ˜¯AIå’ŒGPUçš„å‘展。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:40:57To break it down, we carefully weigh three factors. One is the split, the demand split between generic computing power versus smart computing power. The second is the geolocations. The third is the AI GPU-related chips development. Dean LiuAssistant Vice President, Enterprise Credit at Bank of America00:41:18那具体到您的问题,我在最åŽåšä¸€ç‚¹è¡¥å……说明。那具体到明年,那明年我们还会首先èšç„¦åœ¨çŽ¯äº¬åœ°åŒºï¼ŒåŒ…æ‹¬ä¹Œå…°å¯Ÿå¸ƒï¼ŒåŒ…æ‹¬æ²³åŒ—ã€åŒ—äº¬çš„å‘¨è¾¹åœ°åŒºã€‚åŒæ—¶æˆ‘们也已ç»åœ¨é•¿ä¸‰è§’地区开展了资æºçš„获å–工作,é¢å‘äº”å¹´çš„ä¸æœŸå¸ƒå±€ï¼Œæ”¯æŒé•¿ä¸‰è§’的客户。除æ¤ä»¥å¤–,我们也å¯åŠ¨äº†åœ¨çŽ¯äº¬å’Œé•¿ä¸‰è§’åœ°åŒºä»¥å¤–çš„èµ„æºçš„å¸ƒå±€å·¥ä½œã€‚å½“æœ‰åˆæ¥ç»“果以åŽï¼Œæˆ‘们会在适时的公布。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:41:52More specifically, with regard to next year, we are going to focus, number one, the Greater Beijing Area, particularly Ulanqab, Hebei, and the Beijing surrounding areas. Number two, the Yangtze River Delta areas. We are starting to acquire resources for the next five years to accommodate our users' demand. Additionally, we are exploring the resources outside of these two major areas that I mentioned. Thank you. Shengguang LiuHead of Investor Relations at VNET Group00:42:32Thank you. Your next question comes from Sarah Wang from UBS. Please go ahead. Sarah WangDirector at UBS00:42:40Thank you for the opportunity to ask a question. I actually only have one question. I recall earlier this year, Management had shared that one of the top priorities from Hyperscale customers is the time to market. Has that changed? Also, as inference demand is going to be the growth driver into next year, is there any change in the customer's consideration in terms of new order release? If we talk about more workloads by inference, that means maybe user latency will be a relatively more important consideration factor going forward. 感谢æé—®çš„æœºä¼šï¼Œé‚£ä¹Ÿéžå¸¸æå–œå…¬å¸å–å¾—å¾ˆå¼ºåŠ²çš„ä¸šç»©ã€‚é‚£æˆ‘åªæœ‰ä¸€ä¸ªé—®é¢˜ï¼Œå°±æƒ³è¯·æ•™ä¸€ä¸‹ï¼Œå› 为今年上åŠå¹´çš„æ—¶å€™ï¼Œæˆ‘记得管ç†å±‚有æåˆ°å½“时这个客户对于新的,尤其是AIæ•°æ®ä¸å¿ƒçš„äº¤ä»˜é€Ÿåº¦ï¼Œæœ‰æ¯”è¾ƒé«˜çš„ä¸€ä¸ªè¦æ±‚。我ä¸çŸ¥é“é‚£ä¸ªè¦æ±‚到现在有没有一些å˜åŒ–。如果我们展望未æ¥çš„一些潜在的新订å•,对于我们这些超大规模的客户æ¥è¯´ï¼Œä»–们最看é‡çš„å› ç´ æœ‰å“ªäº›ï¼Ÿé‚£åˆšåˆšå…¶å®žç®¡ç†å±‚也æåˆ°æ˜Žå¹´å¯èƒ½æ˜¯æŽ¨ç†éœ€æ±‚会增长很强劲的一年。那推ç†éœ€æ±‚èµ·æ¥çš„è¯ï¼Œä¼šä¸ä¼šä¹Ÿå¯¹è¿™ä¸ªç”¨æˆ·å»¶è¿Ÿæˆ–者是这个地ç†ä½ç½®æœ‰ä¸€äº›æ–°çš„è¦æ±‚?谢谢。 Sarah WangDirector at UBS00:44:09谢谢您的问题。我先从您最åŽçš„一个问题æ¥å›žåº”。就是确确实实我们的判æ–çš„è®ç»ƒå’ŒæŽ¨ç†å‘¢ï¼Œä¼šåŽ»å¹´å’Œä»Šå¹´å‘¢ï¼Œéƒ½æ˜¯åŒæ¥åœ¨å¼€å±•。那么明年æ¥è®²çš„è¯å‘¢ï¼Œæ…¢æ…¢æŽ¨ç†å‘¢ï¼Œä¼šæˆä¸ºä¸€ä¸ªæ›´å¤šçš„一个新的增长的一个引擎。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:44:28I'll take answer the second half of your question. Yes, we have observed that inferencing will become a major growth driver for next year. Sarah WangDirector at UBS00:44:40æ‰€ä»¥è¿™æ ·å¯¹äºŽå®¢æˆ·æ¥è®²ï¼Œä»–å¯¹åœ°ç‚¹çš„é€‰æ‹©å‘¢ï¼Œä»–ä¼šè¦æ±‚的时延会越æ¥è¶Šå°ï¼Œè¶Šå°è¶Šå¥½ã€‚æ‰€ä»¥å‘¢ï¼Œåœ¨çŽ¯äº¬åœ°åŒºï¼Œé‚£ä¹ˆåŒ…æ‹¬æ²³åŒ—ï¼ŒåŒ…æ‹¬ä¹Œå…°å¯Ÿå¸ƒï¼Œå¯¹äºŽæˆ‘ä»¬å…¬å¸æ¥è®²ï¼Œé‚£å®¢æˆ·å‘¢ï¼Œåœ¨è¿™æ–¹é¢æ¥è®²çš„è¯å‘¢ï¼Œè¦æ±‚下å•呢,会比较多。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:45:02That means the customers have higher requirement in terms of latency. The lower latency, the better. Therefore, we are in a very good position to meet customers' needs with our campuses in the Greater Beijing Area, particularly Hebei Province, as well as the Ulanqab campus. Sarah WangDirector at UBS00:45:20é‚£å†å›žåˆ°æ‚¨çš„刚æ‰ç¬¬ä¸€ä¸ªé—®é¢˜ï¼Œç¡®å®žè¿™ä¸ªé—®é¢˜æ¥è®²ï¼Œå¯¹æˆ‘们呢,是一个,sorry,很难å‘,幸ç¦çš„烦æ¼ï¼Œå’‹ä¸è¯´ã€‚就是这个问题对我们æ¥è®²æ˜¯ç¡®ç¡®å®žå®žæŒ‘战éžå¸¸é«˜çš„。客户呢,对于新订å•çš„äº¤ä»˜é€Ÿåº¦ï¼Œä¸€å¦‚æ—¢å¾€å‘¢ï¼Œæ˜¯è¦æ±‚的比较高。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:45:40With regard to the first half of your question, yes, it is quite a trade-off that we have to face. We are facing significant challenges in terms of how fast the customer wants to move in with the capacity that they have secured with us. Sarah WangDirector at UBS00:45:59那目å‰å‘¢ï¼Œæˆ‘们是通过三个主è¦çš„åšæ³•èƒ½å¤Ÿæ¥æ»¡è¶³å®¢æˆ·çš„è¦æ±‚。第一个呢,就是我们æå‰å¸ƒå±€å¥½åœŸå»ºå’Œå¤–电。第二个呢,就是我们进一æ¥åŠ å¼ºä¾›åº”é“¾çš„æ•´åˆèƒ½åŠ›ã€‚ç¬¬ä¸‰ä¸ªå‘¢ï¼Œæ˜¯æˆ‘ä»¬é€šè¿‡å»ºç‘çš„æ ‡å‡†åŒ–å’Œæœºç”µçš„æ¨¡å—化,能够实现快速交给客户。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:46:25There are three approaches that we are taking to meet customers' demand. Number one, we are planning early in terms of civil engineering and external power supply. Number two, we are consolidating our capacity in terms of supply chain management. Number three, we are adopting electrical mechanical modularization, as well as other standardized construction solutions to meet customers' needs. Sarah WangDirector at UBS00:46:54那最åŽå‘¢ï¼Œä¹Ÿè·Ÿæ‚¨åˆ†äº«ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯å®¢æˆ·çš„è¦æ±‚一般呢,还是T+6,也就是å…个月之内交付。那我们通过刚æ‰è·Ÿæ‚¨åˆ†äº«çš„这三个手段,能够满足客户的T+6çš„è¦æ±‚,甚至我们还åšåˆ°è¿‡ä¸€æ¬¡T+3的交付给客户。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:47:13As you know, the general timeline that the customer expects is T+6, which means they want to move in within six months after signing the contract. Yes, we are able to accommodate users' needs in terms of the horizon. In one particular case, we're even able to accommodate or deliver within three months after signing the contract, just so you know. Sarah WangDirector at UBS00:47:36好,谢谢。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:47:37Thank you. Operator00:47:39Next question, please. Shengguang LiuHead of Investor Relations at VNET Group00:47:41Thank you. Your next question comes from Xu Yunjie from CICC. Please go ahead. 00:47:49Hi, Management. Congratulations on the company's strong earners, and thank you for taking my question. My first question is about the wholesale IDC, and the delivery pace for the wholesale IDC business is very fast, and has the company set the utilization rate target for the next two years? My second question is about the retail IDC business. We have seen the retail business, IDC business, MRR has been growth in for several quarters, and what are the main drivers behind this trend, and how do you view this sustainability in the future? 管ç†å±‚好,éžå¸¸æå–œå…¬å¸çš„这个éžå¸¸å¼ºåŠ²çš„ä¸šç»©ï¼Œç„¶åŽä¹Ÿè°¢è°¢ç»™æˆ‘这个æé—®çš„æœºä¼šã€‚第一个问题是想è¦é—®ä¸€ä¸‹ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯åœ¨æˆ‘们现在的这个IDC的交付速度éžå¸¸å¿«çš„一个节å¥ä¸‹ï¼Œè¿™ä¸ªæƒ…况下呢,管ç†å±‚是怎么去看待就是未æ¥ä¸¤å¹´çš„æˆ‘ä»¬çš„æ•´ä¸ªçš„è¿™ä¸ªå•†å®¶çŽ‡çš„ä¸€ä¸ªç›®æ ‡ï¼Œå°¤å…¶æ˜¯æˆ‘ä»¬çš„è¿™ä¸ªå°±æ˜¯åŸºåœ°åž‹çš„è¿™ä¸€éƒ¨åˆ†çš„ä¸šåŠ¡ï¼Ÿç¬¬äºŒä¸ªå‘¢ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯å…³äºŽè¿™ä¸ªé›¶å”®åž‹ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬ä¹Ÿå·²ç»çœ‹åˆ°æˆ‘们的这个MRRå·²ç»æ˜¯æœ‰è¿žç»å¥½å‡ 个å£åº¦çš„一个稳å¥çš„增长了。那这个背åŽçš„主è¦çš„é©±åŠ¨å› ç´ æ˜¯ä»€ä¹ˆï¼Œå¹¶ä¸”å°±æ˜¯æ€Žä¹ˆåŽ»çœ‹å¾…ä¸€ä¸‹æœªæ¥çš„è¿™æ ·çš„ä¸€ä¸ªæŒç»æ€§ï¼Ÿè°¢è°¢ã€‚ 00:49:01好,谢谢您的问题。第一个关于这个基地型业务的这个商家率,那我们就åƒåˆšæ‰è°ˆåˆ°çš„ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬ä¼šæ ¹æ®å®¢æˆ·çš„è¦æ±‚åšæŒå¿«é€Ÿçš„上架节å¥ï¼Œäº¤ä»˜èŠ‚å¥ï¼ŒåŒæ—¶å®¢æˆ·çš„上架节å¥ä¹Ÿå¾ˆå¿«ã€‚é‚£ä¹ˆç›®å‰æˆ‘们æˆç†Ÿæœºæˆ¿çš„上架率呢,已ç»ä¿æŒåœ¨95%å·¦å³ã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:49:28With regard to the utilization rate, of course, the customers are demanding to move in at a faster pace. For our mature IDCs, the utilization rate is inching closer to 95%. 00:49:44é‚£è°ˆåˆ°ä¸Šæž¶çŽ‡è¿™ä¸ªçš„ç›®æ ‡å‘¢ï¼Œè¿™ä¸ªæˆ‘æƒ³ä¸»è¦å–决于我们明åŽä¸¤å¹´çš„这个交付é‡ã€‚åŒæ—¶å‘¢ï¼Œæˆ‘们会在这个Q4å§ï¼Œæˆ‘们会æä¾›æ›´å¤šçš„ä¿¡æ¯æ¥å›žç”æ‚¨çš„é—®é¢˜ã€‚åŒæ—¶å‘¢ï¼Œé•¿æœŸæ¥çœ‹çš„è¯å‘¢ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬æœ‰ä¿¡å¿ƒå‘¢ï¼Œä½¿å¾—æˆ‘ä»¬çš„å•†å®¶çŽ‡å‘¢ï¼Œç¨³æ¥æå‡ã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:50:08With regard to the specific target on the utilization rate, I think it partly depends on the capacity that's going to be delivered in the next two years. We will disclose more information in the Q4 financials, and we are, you know, in the long run, we are confident that the utilization rate will steadily increase. 00:50:29å†å›žç”您的第二个问题,éžå¸¸æ„Ÿè°¢æ‚¨å…³æ³¨æˆ‘ä»¬çš„é›¶å”®ä¸šåŠ¡ï¼Œå› ä¸ºæˆ‘ä»¬çš„åŸºåœ°åž‹ä¸šåŠ¡å¢žé•¿ä¸€ç›´æ˜¯ä¿æŒäº†æ¯”较高速的这个å‘展。那零售业务æ¥è®²ä¹Ÿæ˜¯å¾ˆè£å¹¸çš„è¯å‘¢ï¼Œèƒ½å¤Ÿåœ¨å¤šä¸ªå£åº¦å§ï¼Œèƒ½å¤ŸMRR呢,得到稳å¥çš„æå‡ã€‚您知é“这个领域的竞争其实也是蛮激烈的。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:50:50Thank you for your attention on our retail IDC business. As you know, the wholesale IDC business has been growing fairly quickly in contrast to the retail IDC. We are very pleased to see the MRR of our retail business continue to grow quarter over quarter for several consecutive quarters. As you know, the competition landscape in this sector is fairly intense. 00:51:16这背åŽçš„æˆ‘觉得主è¦çš„åŽŸå› å‘¢ï¼Œæœ‰è¿™ä¹ˆå‡ ä¸ªã€‚ç¬¬ä¸€ä¸ªå‘¢ï¼Œä»Žå¤–éƒ¨æ¥çœ‹ï¼Œå®¢æˆ·å¯¹äºŽé›¶å”®åž‹ä¸šåŠ¡çš„éœ€æ±‚å‘¢ï¼Œä»ŽåŽŸæ¥çš„åªæœ‰å˜å‚¨å’Œé€šç®—呢,慢慢æœç€å˜å‚¨ã€é€šç®—和制算呢,并é‡çš„这个趋势æ¥ã€‚æ‰€ä»¥æˆ‘ä»¬å‘¢ï¼Œèƒ½å¤Ÿé€šè¿‡æˆ‘ä»¬çš„æŠ€æœ¯æ”¹é€ æ‰¿æŽ¥å®¢æˆ·è¿™ä¸‰ç±»çš„éœ€æ±‚ï¼Œä½¿å¾—æˆ‘ä»¬å‘¢ï¼Œèƒ½å¤Ÿä¿éšœè¿™ä¸ªä¸šåŠ¡çš„ä¸šç»©çš„å¢žé•¿ã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:51:50I think the growth partly boils down to a couple of factors. Number one, in terms of the needs of customers, they are adding smart computing on top of storage plus generic computing, and we are proactively repurposing our cabinets in order to meet their demands, in order to capitalize on this growth momentum and need. 00:52:15从我们内部的角度æ¥çœ‹ï¼Œæˆ‘们åšäº†ä¸¤ä»¶äº‹æƒ…。第一个呢,我们在æä¾›æœ€åŸºæœ¬çš„æ‰˜ç®¡æœåŠ¡çš„ä¹‹ä¸Šï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬è¿˜ä¸ºå®¢æˆ·æä¾›ä¸€äº›ä»¥è½¯ä»¶æœåŠ¡ï¼ŒåŒ…æ‹¬ç®—åŠ›ç½‘ç»œã€å˜å‚¨ç½‘ç»œè¿™æ ·çš„å¢žå€¼æœåŠ¡ã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:52:35Factor number two on our side, on top of the hosting service we offer to the clients, we are providing incremental value-added services on the software level, let's say networking, as well as storage networking services. 00:52:51å¦å¤–呢,就是之å‰å‘¢ï¼Œæˆ‘ä¹Ÿè·Ÿå¤§å®¶ä¹Ÿåˆ†äº«è¿‡ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯åœ¨ä¸¤å¹´å‰æˆ‘们就已ç»å¼€å§‹è¿›è¡Œæˆ‘们零售业务或者城市型数æ®ä¸å¿ƒçš„é«˜ç”µæœºæŸœçš„æ”¹é€ ã€‚ä»Žè¿™ä¸ªå·¥ä½œæˆ‘ä»¬æ¯å¹´éƒ½è¿›è¡Œï¼Œé‚£ç›®å‰çœ‹å‘¢ï¼Œæˆ‘们也å—益于æ¤ã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:53:10Another factor is the initiative of repurposing the retail cabinets into higher density cabinets, and clearly we are benefiting from these efforts and initiatives. 00:53:25最åŽå‘¢ï¼Œæˆ‘想说一å¥ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯åªè¦å®¢æˆ·çš„需求ã€å˜å‚¨ã€é€šç®—和制算,包括增值æœåŠ¡æŒç»ä¿æŒçš„è¯å‘¢ï¼Œæˆ‘们相信我们的零售业务呢,也能够éšç€å®¢æˆ·çš„这些需求呢,æŒç»åœ°ä¿æŒæœªæ¥å‘展的æŒç»æ€§ã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:53:44Last but not least, should the demand from customers in terms of storage, generic computing plus value-added services sustain, we are confident to sustain the growth momentum of our retail business. 00:54:00好,谢谢。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:54:01Thank you. Operator00:54:02Next question, please. Shengguang LiuHead of Investor Relations at VNET Group00:54:04Thank you. Your next question comes from Andy Yu from DBS. Please go ahead. Andy YuAnalyst at DBS00:54:12Hi, thank you Management for taking my questions and congratulations on the solid results. I have two questions. Your key peer has announced plans to expand into regions with lower electricity costs to capture AI training demand. How do you see the supply-demand dynamics will evolve in these regions where VNET currently has a first-mover advantage? Secondly, the government's stand on data center C-REITs has become more positive. With a shorter timeline for new asset ingestion pools IPO, do we expect our C-REIT application to accelerate? Apart from REITs projects, what will our funding strategy be going forward? é‚£æ ·æˆ‘ç¿»è¯‘ä¸€ä¸‹å‘¢ï¼Œæå–œå…¬å¸äº®ä¸½çš„业绩。我有两æ¡é—®é¢˜æƒ³è¯·æ•™ä¸€ä¸‹ã€‚那昨天有åƒä¹Ÿå®£å¸ƒè®¡åˆ’è¿›å…¥ç”µè´¹æ›´ä½Žçš„åœ°åŒºæ¥æ»¡è¶³AIè®ç»ƒéœ€æ±‚。公å¸åœ¨ä¹Œå…°å¯Ÿå¸ƒå·²ç»æœ‰å…ˆå‘布局,请问管ç†å±‚æ€Žæ ·çœ‹æœªæ¥è¿™äº›åœ°åŒºçš„ä¾›éœ€å’Œç«žäº‰çš„æƒ…å†µä¼šæœ‰æ€Žæ ·çš„æ”¹å˜ï¼Ÿç„¶åŽå°±æ˜¯æ”¿åºœä¹Ÿå¯¹æ•°æ®ä¸å¿ƒC-REITæ€åº¦æ›´ç§¯æžï¼Œä¹Ÿç¼©çŸäº†IPOåŽæ–°èµ„产注入时间。请问我们的C-REITç”³è¯·ä¼šåŠ å¿«å—?然åŽREITsä»¥å¤–ï¼Œå…¬å¸æœªæ¥æ•´ä½“çš„èžèµ„è®¡åˆ’æ˜¯æ€Žæ ·çš„ï¼Ÿè°¢è°¢ã€‚ Andy YuAnalyst at DBS00:55:30å¥½ï¼Œè°¢è°¢ã€‚æˆ‘å…ˆå›žç”æ‚¨çš„ç¬¬ä¸€ä¸ªé—®é¢˜ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯æˆ‘æƒ³æ˜¯è¿™æ ·ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯æ ¹æ®å„个ä¼ä¸šè‡ªèº«çš„历å²çš„åŽŸå› ï¼Œå¯¹äºŽå¸‚åœºçš„åˆ¤æ–以åŠå¯¹äºŽå‘展ç–略的ä¸åŒå‘¢ï¼Œé‚£ä¹ˆæˆ‘想æ¯ä¸ªä¼ä¸šå‘¢ï¼Œä¼šå¯¹ä¸åŒçš„区域æ¥è¿›è¡Œå¸ƒå±€ï¼Œæ¥è¿›è¡Œè¿™ä¸ªèµ„æºçš„获å–。那么从我想从我们公å¸çš„考é‡å‘¢ï¼Œç»™æ‚¨å±•å¼€åšä¸€ä¸ªæŠ¥å‘Šï¼Œåšä¸€ä¸ªæ±‡æŠ¥ã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:56:00Thank you. I'll take your first question. I think different companies are adopting different strategic growth approaches with regard to their own reading on the market dynamics as well as their development legacy. They are actually deploying resources based on all of these factors. However, I would like to elaborate on how we go about it. Andy YuAnalyst at DBS00:56:27首先呢,就是我们判æ–呢,就åƒåˆšæ‰å‰é¢æˆ‘也有æåˆ°ï¼Œæˆ‘们对于今åŽè¿™ä¸‰åˆ°äº”年,我们认为呢,AIçš„å‘展呢,ä»ç„¶æ˜¯ä¸€ä¸ªéžå¸¸é‡è¦çš„å‘展的引擎。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:56:43Like I iterated many times, over the next three to five years, AI is going to be increasingly more important growth driver. Andy YuAnalyst at DBS00:56:53那对于这个整个过程呢,我们公å¸å‘¢ï¼Œæœ‰è¿™æ ·çš„ç ”åˆ¤ä¾›æ‚¨å‚考。首先呢,我们会认为基础模型的è®ç»ƒå‘¢ï¼Œåœ¨å›½å†…呢,会集ä¸åœ¨ä¸ºæ•°ä¸å¤šçš„æœ‰å®žåŠ›çš„ä¸€äº›ä¼ä¸šå½“ä¸ã€‚更多的ä¼ä¸šå‘¢ï¼Œæ˜¯é‡‡ç”¨åŸºç¡€æ¨¡åž‹å‘¢ï¼Œæ¥è¿›è¡Œä½¿ç”¨ï¼Œç”¨æŽ¨ç†æˆ–用其他的领域。所以一å¥è¯ï¼ŒåŸºç¡€æ¨¡åž‹çš„è®ç»ƒä¼šè¶Šæ¥è¶Šå¤šåœ°é›†ä¸åœ¨ä¸ºæ•°ä¸å¤šçš„ä¼ä¸šå½“ä¸ï¼Œè¿™ä¸ªæ˜¯åˆšéœ€ã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:57:24On the corporate level, our reading is that the training of foundational models, that type of demand will be increasingly concentrated to one or few top capable deep-pocketed players. That is the first reading that we have on the market. Andy YuAnalyst at DBS00:57:43第二个呢,就是关于推ç†å’Œç§æœ‰åŒ–éƒ¨ç½²ä¼šä¿æŒå¢žé•¿çš„趋势,这一点呢,å¯ä»¥ä»Žæœ€è¿‘çš„æ°æ£®é»„的讲è¯å½“ä¸å‘¢ï¼Œå¾—到å°è¯ã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:57:56Number two, we believe that inferencing and private deployment will continue to sustain its growth momentum as it can be evidenced or confirmed from Jensen Huang's remarks. Andy YuAnalyst at DBS00:58:10第三个呢,我们认为在未æ¥çš„五年里边,éšç€å›½äº§GPUçš„å‘展和æˆç†Ÿï¼Œé‚£ä¹ˆæŽ¨ç†ã€ç§æœ‰åŒ–部署以åŠä¼šæ¶ŒçŽ°å‡ºæ¥çš„ç¾¤ä½“æ™ºèƒ½ï¼Œè¿™äº›éƒ½æ˜¯æˆ‘ä»¬å¿…é¡»è¦æŒç»å…³æ³¨çš„客户需求。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:58:28Number three, we believe over the course of the next five years, as the GPU grows, domestic GPU chips grow, there is going to be more demand from the inferencing, private deployment, as well as many emerging group intelligent agents. These are the growth areas or customer demands that we are paying closer attention to. Andy YuAnalyst at DBS00:58:55所以最åŽå‘¢ï¼Œæˆ‘æƒ³è¡¨è¾¾çš„æ„æ€å°±æ˜¯ï¼Œæˆ‘们世纪互è”会秉æŒä¸€ä¸ªåè°ƒå‘展的ç†å¿µï¼Œç”¨å…¬å¸åœ¨ä¸åŒçš„èµ„æºæ¥æ»¡è¶³å®¢æˆ·ä¸åŒçš„需求。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:59:11In a nutshell, we at VNET will adhere to the principle of a coordinated, balanced development, using our resources to meet users' varying demands. Andy YuAnalyst at DBS00:59:24好,谢谢。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:59:24Thank you. Shengguang LiuHead of Investor Relations at VNET Group00:59:26好,我è¦å›žç”一下您那个第二个问题,关于公募REITs。我们的那个公募REITs现在在很积æžçš„æŽ¨è¿›è¿‡ç¨‹ä¸ï¼Œè¿›å±•çŽ°åœ¨è¿˜ä¸æ–¹ä¾¿è¯´ï¼Œä½†æ˜¯æˆ‘们希望å¯ä»¥å°½å¿«ç»™å¤§å®¶åˆ†äº«ä¸€äº›å¥½æ¶ˆæ¯å§ã€‚那除了公募REITsä»¥å¤–ï¼Œåˆšæ‰æˆ‘也讲到了,公å¸çŽ°åœ¨å…¶å®žåœ¨ç§¯æžçš„æŽ¨è¿›è¿™ä¸ªæŒæœ‰åž‹ABS,也就是ç§å‹ŸREITsçš„å‘è¡Œã€‚è¿™ä¸ªäº§å“æˆ‘ä»¬å·²ç»æˆåŠŸå‘行了一个了,它å¯ä»¥æ‰¿è½½æˆ‘们更大规模的项目的这个资本化。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group01:00:00Our C-REIT is still underway. However, I am not in a position to disclose any information at the moment, and we wish to update you later as we see more progress. Other than the C-REITs or public REITs, we are proactively advancing the holding type ABS, also known as private REITs, and we have successfully issued one, and we are hopeful that this would allow us to recycle a major sizable fund or capital from such types of issuance. Shengguang LiuHead of Investor Relations at VNET Group01:00:39在这里借这个机会也想分享一个好消æ¯ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯æˆ‘们在国内的è¿è¥ä¸»ä½“,北京世纪互è”刚刚拿到了国内的一个评级机构的3A评级,这个在民è¥ä¼ä¸šé‡Œæ˜¯ä¸å¤šè§çš„ã€‚é‚£åŸºäºŽè¿™æ ·çš„è¯„çº§ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬ä¹Ÿåœ¨ç§¯æžçš„æŽ¨è¿›åœ¨å›½å†…的债券市场进行这个科创债的å‘行。那这类债券的利率是éžå¸¸ä½Žçš„,如果å¯ä»¥æˆåŠŸå‘行,对我们é™ä½Žèžèµ„æˆæœ¬å’Œæ‹“宽èžèµ„æ¸ é“也会有很大的帮助。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group01:01:09Additionally, I am happy to share that we, so one of the operating entities, domestic operating entities, Beijing VNET, has just received a AAA rating from a domestic rating institution, which is rare among private-owned companies, non-public, so non-OEMs, non-state-owned companies. With this rating, a favorable rating, we are actively advancing the issuance of domestic corporate bonds, particularly the Science and Tech Innovation Bond, which comes with a very favorable interest rate. Should it be pulled through, we are going to benefit from a lower interest rate with a widening channel of financing. Operator01:02:05Next question, please. Shengguang LiuHead of Investor Relations at VNET Group01:02:08Thank you. Your next question comes from Ethan Jiang from Nomura. Please go ahead. 01:02:15Okay, thanks Management for taking my question. Only one quick question. How do you see the trend for our unit CapEx spending? I noticed that for the first time of the total CapEx spend, it was around RMB 6 billion versus our full year guidance of RMB 10-12 billion. It looks a bit behind schedule versus our capacity delivery schedule. I am just wondering if Management can provide some colors on this, and also for next year's CapEx, what's our outlook and potential sources for funding our next year's CapEx? 很快翻译一下,就是这一个很快的问题,就是看到å‰ä¹ä¸ªæœˆå¯èƒ½æˆ‘们100到全年100到120亿的CapEx里é¢ï¼Œæˆ‘们åªèŠ±äº†å…åå‡ ä¸ªäº¿ï¼ŒåŒæ—¶æˆ‘们已ç»roll out了å¯èƒ½300兆瓦的这个capacity。就想问一下我们这个unit CapEx的这个trendæ˜¯æ€Žä¹ˆçœ‹çš„ï¼Œä»¥åŠæ˜Žå¹´æˆ‘们整体的这个CapEx的一个展望和我们怎么去fund这个我们明年的CapEx。谢谢。 01:03:23对,好,我æ¥å›žç”这个问题。我们现在主è¦çš„capex都在这个基地型的业务上,那目å‰åŸºåœ°åž‹çš„å•åƒç“¦capex的这个水平是在平稳下é™çš„一个趋势。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group01:03:39The majority of our CapEx is on the wholesale IDC, and the CapEx per unit megawatt for our wholesale IDC campuses are gradually trending down. 01:03:51对,明年的capex预算我们还在编制过程ä¸ï¼Œæˆ‘们æ£åœ¨æŒ‰ç…§ç±»ä¼¼25年的规模准备我们的èžèµ„è®¡åˆ’ã€‚é‚£èµ„é‡‘çš„æ¥æºä¸»è¦å°±æ˜¯é¡¹ç›®å±‚é¢çš„资产è¯åˆ¸åŒ–ï¼Œè¿˜æœ‰åˆšæ‰æåˆ°çš„å¢ƒå†…å€ºåˆ¸çš„å‘行。我们25年全年通过项目层é¢çš„这个pre-REITsã€ç§å‹ŸREITs,还有开å‘基金这些方å¼ï¼Œå®žçŽ°æˆ‘ä»¬è‚¡æƒç±»çš„这个资金回收超过20ä¸ªäº¿ã€‚æˆ‘ä»¬ç›®æ ‡26年的这个数å—è¦è¶…过25年。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group01:04:32We are still in the process of putting together our CapEx for next year, and we are preparing the similar size of funding, and the proceeds or the sources of this funding would mainly come from asset securitization as well as issuance of a domestic corporate bond. A quick number that I want to share with you. Through the pre-REITs, private REITs, and development fund that issued in 2025, we have successfully recycled CNY 2 billion through the equity assets. Our goal is that we are going to beat this number in 2026. 01:05:22所以我们现在èžèµ„的工具箱是éžå¸¸ä¸°å¯Œçš„,我们有信心在控制公å¸çš„æ æ†æ°´å¹³åœ¨æ¯”è¾ƒå®‰å…¨çš„æ°´å¹³çš„åŒæ—¶ï¼Œæ»¡è¶³è¿™ä¸ªæˆ‘们的capex的需求。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group01:05:37There are a lot of tools in our toolboxes, financing toolboxes, I would say, and we are confident that we are able to fund our CapEx while keeping the leverage ratio within a secure range or safe range. Operator01:05:55Next question, please. Shengguang LiuHead of Investor Relations at VNET Group01:05:59Thank you. Your next question, it comes from Anthony Leng from JP Morgan. Please go ahead. Anthony LengEquity Research Associate at JPMorgan01:06:06哈喽,管ç†å±‚,请问å¬å¾—到我的声音å—? Operator01:06:10å¯ä»¥å¬åˆ°ã€‚ Anthony LengEquity Research Associate at JPMorgan01:06:11strong, fast customer moving rate? Is there potential upside to the full-year guidance further? Second question is regarding the Q3 reported margin. There was some sequential decline versus Q2, despite a very strong customer moving rate. What could be the potential driver to cause this decline? What could be the next few quarters' EBITDA margin trend? So my first question is about the full-year upward revised guidance. It seems that in the fourth quarter, the implied revenue looks like there is a single-digit quarter-on-quarter decline. I would like to ask if there is any special reason for this part, or if there is potential upside to further revise up our full-year guidance, or if our full-year guidance is somewhat cautiously optimistic. The second question is about our Q3 EBITDA margin. This part seems to be down quarter-on-quarter, but our customer moving rate is very fast and demand is also very strong. Is there any special reason for this? I would like to ask about our future EBITDA margin trend. Thank you. Anthony LengEquity Research Associate at JPMorgan01:08:03对,我æ¥å›žç”这两个问题å§ã€‚就是全年的指引方é¢ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬ä¸€è´¯æ˜¯ä¸€ä¸ªæ¯”è¾ƒå®¡æ…Žçš„é£Žæ ¼ã€‚é‚£å…·ä½“çš„æ•°å—呢,我们还è¦å†è¿›ä¸€æ¥è§‚å¯Ÿä¸€ä¸‹æˆ‘ä»¬æ–°å®¢æˆ·çš„è¿™äº›ä¸Šæž¶é€Ÿåº¦ï¼ŒåŒ…æ‹¬ç”¨ç”µçš„æƒ…å†µï¼Œè¿™è·Ÿæˆ‘ä»¬çš„è¥æ”¶éƒ½æœ‰ä¸€äº›å…³ç³»ã€‚ç›®å‰çœ‹ç¬¬å››å£åº¦å‡ºçŽ°æ‚¨è¯´çš„è¥æ”¶çŽ¯æ¯”ä¸‹é™çš„å¯èƒ½æ€§éžå¸¸å°ï¼Œæ‚¨å¯ä»¥æ›´å¤šçš„å‚考我们全年业绩指引的更积æžçš„那个空间å§ã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group01:08:34Let me take your question. As always, we have been consistently prudent in terms of offering our full year revenue guidance. I think we are going to watch closely the pace of our customers moving in, as well as the electricity used by them, because they are closely related to the revenue. Looking to the quarter-over-quarter growth, I think there is very little likelihood the Q4 revenue will decline sequentially. I would advise you to refer to the upper end of our full year revenue guidance range. Anthony LengEquity Research Associate at JPMorgan01:09:13EBITDA margin 有一点点å£èŠ‚æ€§çš„æ³¢åŠ¨ï¼Œè¿™ä¸ªæ˜¯åœ¨ä¸€ä¸ªæ£å¸¸çš„æ°´å¹³ä¸‹ã€‚æˆ‘ä»¬æ•´ä¸ªä¸šåŠ¡çš„æ”¶å…¥å•Šï¼ŒåŒ…æ‹¬æˆ‘ä»¬çš„æˆæœ¬æ°´å¹³éƒ½æ²¡æœ‰ä»€ä¹ˆæ˜¾è‘—çš„å˜åŒ–。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group01:09:57With regard to the EBITDA margin, I would say it's within a reasonable range, because the majority of our revenue is from the wholesale IDC business. Because of the rising temperatures in Q3, we are seeing more tariffs for Q3. Given that, these are actually reflected in our P&L in terms of the tariffs that we pay. However, with regard to our operational costs, they are consistent. We do not see huge fluctuations. I would see this as reasonable seasonal fluctuations. Thank you. Shengguang LiuHead of Investor Relations at VNET Group01:10:51Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our conference for today. Thank you for participating. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by for the third quarter 2025 earnings conference call for VNET Group. After the management's prepared remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. Please note the Chinese line is in listen-only mode. If you wish to ask questions, please dial in through the English line. Participants from our management include Mr. Ju Ma, Rotating President; Mr. Qiyu Wang, Chief Financial Officer; Ms. Shengguang Liu, Head of Investor Relations of the company. Please note that today's conference call is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to the first speaker today, Ms. Shengguang Liu. Please go ahead. Shengguang LiuHead of Investor Relations at VNET Group00:00:48Thank you, our pre-turn. Hello, everyone, and welcome to our third quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Our earnings release was distributed earlier today, and you can find a copy on our ARRIVE site as well as on NewsWire services. Please note that today's call will contain forward-looking statements within the safe harbor provisions of the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. For detailed discussions of these risks and uncertainties, please refer to our latest annual report and other documents filed with the SEC. VNET does not undertake any obligations to update any forward-looking statements except as required under applicable laws. Please also note that VNET's earnings press release and this conference call include the disclosure of unaudited GAAP and non-GAAP financial matters. Shengguang LiuHead of Investor Relations at VNET Group00:01:46VNET's earnings press release contains a reconciliation of the unaudited non-GAAP matters to the unaudited GAAP matters. A summary presentation, which we will refer to during this conference call, can be viewed and downloaded from our ARRIVE site at ir.vnet.com. Next, I'd like to alert you that we will be utilizing text-to-speech technology powered by Neulink.ai to deliver this quarter's prepared remarks by Mr. Ju Ma, our Rotating President, and Mr. Qiyu Wang, our CFO. The management team will join the Q&A session in person. Additionally, this conference is being recorded. A webcast of this conference call will also be available on our ARRIVE site at ir.vnet.com. Now, let's get started with today's presentation. Mr. Ma, please go ahead. Ju MaRotating President at VNET Group00:02:40Good morning and good evening, everyone. Thank you for joining our call today. I'll start with an overview of our major accomplishments during the third quarter of 2025. Let's turn to slide four. We delivered another strong quarter, demonstrating our strategy's effectiveness in capturing opportunities. On the operational side, our wholesale IDC business sustained its robust growth trajectory, driven by our rapid delivery capabilities and customers' fast-moving pace. As of September 30, 2025, our wholesale capacity in service grew by 16.1% quarter over quarter to 783 megawatts, an increase of around 109 megawatts. Wholesale capacity utilized by customers rose by 13.8% quarter over quarter to 582 megawatts, an increase of around 70 megawatts, while the utilization rate was 74.3%, reflecting customers' continuous demand for our high-quality, high-performance AIDC services. Our retail IDC business continued to progress smoothly, benefiting from growing AI-driven demand. Ju MaRotating President at VNET Group00:03:58This quarter, our retail MRR per cabinet increased for six consecutive quarters, reaching RMB 8,948. On the financial side, our total net revenues increased by 21.7% year over year to RMB 2.58 billion for the third quarter. Wholesale revenues remained our key growth driver, reaching RMB 956 million, a significant year-over-year increase of 82.7%. Fueled by the rapid growth of our wholesale IDC business, our adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter also increased by 27.5% year over year to RMB 758 million. In addition, building on the increase we announced to our full-year guidance before Q2 earnings this year, we are further increasing our full-year revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance this quarter, thanks to faster-than-anticipated movings among wholesale IDC customers and ongoing operational efficiency gains, supported by our premium wholesale and retail IDC services. We continue to capitalize on strong customer momentum and secure new orders in the third quarter. Ju MaRotating President at VNET Group00:05:15I'll share more on the next slide. Moving on to our new order wins on slide five. In the third quarter, we secured three wholesale orders totaling 63 MW. Specifically, in addition to the 20 MW order from our JV project we mentioned on our last call, we won a 40 MW order from an internet company, as announced in September, and a 3 MW order from an intelligent driving company, all for data centers in the Greater Beijing area. Entering the fourth quarter, we are seeing continued order momentum, including a 32 MW wholesale order we just secured from an internet company for a data center in the Yangtze River Delta. Furthermore, driven by growing demand from customers for intelligent deployment, we secured a combined capacity of approximately 2 MW in new retail orders across multiple retail data centers from customers in the cloud services, local services, and financial services sectors. Ju MaRotating President at VNET Group00:06:23During the quarter, rapid AI development and broader adoption of AI applications continued to fuel growth in China's IDC industry. We saw sustained momentum in AI-related investments, especially from hyperscalers that are executing strong CapEx expansion plans. This has further accelerated demand for high-performance data centers. Driven by AI training and inference needs, AI has become the core growth driver of the IDC industry, propelling the industry's business model evolution from product-based resource delivery to platform-based services that provide integrated AIDC solutions. Meanwhile, customer demand and critical resources, such as power, are increasingly concentrated among leading IDC players. As an industry pioneer in AIDC development, we're leveraging our acute insights, strong resources, and premium, reliable services to seize these structural growth opportunities by quickly meeting customers' needs. Now, let's delve into our business updates, starting with our wholesale business on slide seven. Ju MaRotating President at VNET Group00:07:37Our wholesale business maintained strong growth momentum, with capacity in service increasing by around 109 MW quarter over quarter to 783 MW, and utilization rate remaining stable at 74.3%, mainly attributable to our delivery capacities at our NOR Campus 02 and NHB Campus 01A, and faster-than-expected movings at our NOR Campus 01. Our mature capacity utilization rate also reached 94.7%, a relatively high level. We have a clear growth path for our wholesale data center capacity. Let's move on to slide eight. As of the end of the third quarter, our total wholesale resource capacity was around 1.8 GW. Specifically, our capacity under construction was around 306 MW. Capacity held for short-term future development was around 414 megawatts, and capacity held for long-term future development was around 291 megawatts. Ju MaRotating President at VNET Group00:08:49These secured resources represent a significant advantage in light of the IDC industry's limited effective supply and are in line with our optimistic view of AI-driven demand's long-term growth potential. Moving to our retail IDC business on slide nine. Our retail business continued to progress smoothly in the third quarter. Retail capacity in service was 52,288 cabinets, with the utilization rate increasing slightly to 64.8% as of the end of September. As I just mentioned, our retail MRR per cabinet has increased for six consecutive quarters, reaching RMB 8,948. Turning to our delivery plan on Slide 10. With our strong and efficient delivery capabilities, we successfully delivered a total of around 109 megawatts in the third quarter of 2023, bringing our total deliveries around 297 MW as of the end of September this year. Ju MaRotating President at VNET Group00:09:56We currently have seven data centers under construction, with six in the Greater Beijing area and one in the Yangtze River Delta. We plan to deliver around 306 MW of capacity over the next 12 months, or around 132 MW during the fourth quarter of 2025 and the first quarter of 2026, and around 174 MW during the second and third quarters of 2026. This delivery plan reflects our view as of the end of September, but we may update these estimates as we gain greater visibility over the next couple of quarters. In conclusion, our strong third-quarter results showcase our ability to identify opportunities and our readiness to seamlessly meet evolving market demand. Our visionary Hyperscale 2.0 framework has positioned us to lead under the new global AI-driven paradigm, supported by advantages across high-density deployment, delivery speed and quality, and cutting-edge sustainable technology. Ju MaRotating President at VNET Group00:11:05As AI-related demand grows, we will continue to advance our effective dual-core strategy and Hyperscale 2.0 framework, seizing opportunities to further unleash our growth potential in the AI era. Now, I will turn the call over to our CFO, Qiyu Wang, for further discussion of our operating and financial performance. Thank you, everyone. Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:11:31Good morning and good evening, everyone. Before we start the detailed discussion of our third-quarter performance, please note that, unless otherwise stated, all the financials we present today are for the third quarter of 2025 and are in RMB terms. Furthermore, unless otherwise specified, all the growth rates I am reviewing are on a year-over-year basis. Let's turn to slide twelve. In the third quarter, we continued to pursue high-quality business. Our total net revenues increased by 21.7% to RMB 2.58 billion, mainly driven by the rapid growth of our wholesale business. Our adjusted cash gross profit rose by 22.1% to RMB 1.05 billion, while our adjusted EBITDA also grew year-over-year by 27.5% to RMB 758.3 million. Let's look more closely at our top line. Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:12:29As you can see on slide thirteen, in the third quarter, wholesale revenues, our key revenue growth driver, increased significantly by 82.7% to RMB 955.5 million, and the rapid growth was mainly attributable to the NOR Campus 01. Retail revenues increased by 2.4% to RMB 999.1 million. Our non-IDC business revenues increased by 0.8% to RMB 627.1 million. During the third quarter, we maintained solid margins thanks to our continuous efforts to enhance overall efficiency. As shown on slide fourteen, our adjusted cash gross margins improved to 40.7% from 40.6% in the same period last year. Our adjusted EBITDA margin rose to 29.4%, compared with 28% in the same period last year. Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:13:23Moving on to liquidity on slide fifteen, we maintained robust and healthy liquidity, bolstered by a net operating cash inflow of RMB 809.8 million during the third quarter, bringing our net operating cash flow for the first nine months of the year to RMB 1.37 billion. Our cash position remained solid, with total cash and cash equivalents, restricted cash, and short-term investments reaching RMB 5.33 billion as of September 30, 2025. Next, let's take a look at our debt structure on slide sixteen. We maintained our prudent approach to debt management. As of September 30, 2025, our net debt to the trailing twelve months Adjusted EBITDA ratio was 5.5, and total debt to the trailing twelve months Adjusted EBITDA ratio was 6.7, both remaining at healthy levels. Our trailing twelve months Adjusted EBITDA to interest coverage ratio was 6.5. Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:14:20We prioritize long-term debt maturity planning in our debt and strategic management to ensure the security of debt repayment. Currently, the company's short and medium-term debt maturing in 2025-2027 comprises 41.4% of our total debt. Turning now to CapEx spending, as you can see on slide seventeen, for the first nine months, our CapEx was RMB 6.24 billion, with the majority allocated to the expansion of our wholesale IDC business. We still expect our CapEx for the full year 2025 to be in the range of RMB 10 billion-RMB 12 billion. The increase is mainly to support our planned delivery of 400-450 MW in 2025. Now, moving to our full-year guidance for 2025 on slide eighteen. Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:15:10As we expect faster-than-anticipated movings among wholesale IDC customers and ongoing operational efficiency gains through the end of the year, we have further increased our full-year revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance. We now expect total net revenues to be in the range of RMB 9.55 billion-RMB 9.867 billion, a year-over-year increase of 16%-19%, and adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of RMB 2.91 billion-RMB 2.945 billion, representing a year-over-year increase of 20%-21%. If the RMB 87.7 million of disposal gains on the EJS02 data center were excluded from the adjusted EBITDA calculation for 2024, the year-over-year growth rate would be 24%-26%. Please note our updated guidance factors in the impact of the private REIT transactions we issued early this November and excludes the target IDC project's financials from our consolidated financial statements. Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:16:13Before I conclude, I'd like to briefly update you on our ESG efforts. Our outstanding sustainability performance has once again earned recognition from a leading global rating institution. In the 2025 S&P Global Corporate Sustainability Assessment, VNET score increased to 73 from 70 last year, ranking among the top 8% of the IT service industry globally. We stand out in areas including risk management, information security, environmental management, and customer relations, underscoring our comprehensive capabilities in sustainability development. This quarter's strong growth and enhanced profitability are yet another testament to our high-quality growth strategy. Looking ahead, we will continue to consolidate our core strengths and capture growth opportunities, delivering sustainable long-term value for all stakeholders. This concludes our prepared remarks for today. We are now ready to take questions. Operator00:17:15Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. If you wish to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. If you wish to cancel your request, please press star two. If you're on a speakerphone, please pick up the handset to ask your question. For the benefit of all participants on today's call, please ask your question to management in English and then repeat in Chinese. Your first question, it comes from Tom Tang from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Tom TangAnalyst at Morgan Stanley00:17:52Thanks, management, for this opportunity to ask questions, and congrats again on a very strong quarterly result. I have two questions. The first question is more on the 2026 outlook. We're hearing that there has been some expansion in the domestic chips and capacities. Just wondering, what is our current outlook for the overall order tendering in 2026? The second question is about private REITs. We noticed that we have filed another private REIT with a size of almost CNY 10 billion. Just wondering, what will be the timeline of this private REIT execution? 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Thank you very much. As we are approaching the end of the year, we are engaging our customers and trying to learn about their development path. This would put us in a well-positioned to plan our resources accordingly. According to our communications with the clients and also the current status quo of the pipeline, we believe that the market will be fairly stable with moderate increase for the year 2023. According to our conversations with the clients, we feel that they are having very detailed expansion plan or growth nationwide. Therefore, we have to plan carefully in order to accommodate the users' needs because they are requiring us to deliver the capacities at a faster pace with a higher requirement. That is why we are planning accordingly as well. 00:22:55The overall reading for the next year is that the market is going to be stable with a moderate increase. With regard to your second question on the domestic chip, we VNET are tracking and monitoring the development of the domestic chips very closely. We know that the sector is evolving very quickly with a lot more options available. We believe that in 2026, we are going to see intensive competition among domestic chip players. Other than the two to three major players, there are more upcoming players coming into the market. We are going to see significant growth development in this sector. That would give us, give the customers a lot more choices with more certainty. Again, that would push the development or in return drive the development of our business. Thank you. 我æ¥è¯´ä¸€ä¸‹åˆšæ‰ä½ 问到的REITs的情况。确实是我们这两个项目是我们继我们首个ç§å‹ŸREITs试水æˆåŠŸä»¥åŽæŽ¨å‡ºçš„ã€‚é‚£æˆ‘ä»¬é¦–ä¸ªé¡¹ç›®çš„åº•å±‚èµ„äº§æ˜¯åŸŽå¸‚åž‹çš„IDC。那这次这两个项目的底层资产呢都是基地型的。这也是我们首次实现基地型的项目通过这个ç§å‹ŸREITs的方å¼å¤§è§„模的å‘行。那如果这两个项目å¯ä»¥é¡ºåˆ©çš„å‘行æˆåŠŸå‘¢ï¼Œä¹Ÿæ ‡å¿—ç€æˆ‘们基地型的业务就完æˆäº†å¼€å‘ã€æŒæœ‰ã€éƒ¨åˆ†é€€å‡ºå’Œé•¿æœŸè¿è¥çš„资本é—环。 This is Qiyu Wang. Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:24:35I'll take your second question with regard to the REITs projects. These two REITs projects followed on the heel of our first private REITs projects. The underlying project for our first REITs project was retail IDC, whereas the underlying assets for these two REITs projects are wholesale IDCs. This would be the first time that we have scaled private REITs issuance with underlying assets of wholesale IDCs. If these issuance were too successful, this would officially mark that we have completed the full closed-loop capital cycle of development, holding, partial exit, as well as the long-term operation. 这两个项目目å‰è¿˜éƒ½åœ¨äº¤æ˜“æ‰€è¿›è¡Œå®¡æ‰¹ã€‚é‚£æˆ‘ä»¬é¢„è®¡ä¼°å€¼çš„å€æ•°ä¼šæ˜¾è‘—的优于我们刚刚å‘行的这个项目。而且这两个项目å‘行以åŽï¼Œä¸åŒäºŽæˆ‘们的第一个项目,世纪互è”都会继ç»åˆå¹¶ä¼šè®¡æŠ¥è¡¨ã€‚也就是说这两个项目的å‘行对我们æŸç›Šè¡¨ä¸Šé¢çš„æ”¶å…¥å’ŒEBITDAæ•°æ®åˆå¹¶æ•°æ®ä¸ä¼šæœ‰å½±å“ã€‚è€Œä¸”ä¹‹åŽæˆ‘们类似基地型的项目的类似产å“çš„å‘行也都会延ç»è¿™ç§åˆå¹¶æŠ¥è¡¨å¹¶è¡¨å‘行的模å¼ã€‚é‚£æˆ‘ä»¬çŽ°åœ¨çš„ç›®æ ‡æ˜¯åœ¨ä¸€å£åº¦å®Œæˆè¿™ä¸ªå‘行。 These two REITs projects are currently being reviewed by the exchanges, and the expected valuation multiples would be better than the first REITs project. Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:26:23Once the two REITs projects were successfully issued, we will, unlike the first REITs project, consolidate the financial statements of these two projects into the group-level financial statements. Therefore, it would not impact the group-level financial statements, specifically the revenue or EBITDA data. We are planning to adopt a similar approach with future private REITs projects with underlying assets of wholesale IDCs. Our goal is to complete the issuance by Q1 next year. Operator00:26:59Next question. Shengguang LiuHead of Investor Relations at VNET Group00:27:02Thank you. Your next question comes from Timothy Zhao from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Timothy ZhaoAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:27:09Great. Thank you, Management, for taking my question, and congrats on the very solid results. Two questions here. One is regarding, I think, just earlier Management mentioned that we have seemed to receive more orders for—hello? Operator00:27:35Yeah, we can hear you now. Timothy ZhaoAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:27:38Okay. Yeah. I was saying that VNET appears to be, we need more orders in your wholesale campuses in Hebei and Jiangsu. From the geographical location perspective, how do you think about the customer preferences and what kind of demand does each campus serve differently? That's my first question. My second question is regarding the pricing. It's for the wholesale business. I noticed that for this quarter, there is some fluctuation in the wholesale MRR. Just wondering, how do you think about the pricing trend into the fourth quarter and next year for the wholesale business? 那我很快翻译一下。感谢管ç†å±‚æŽ¥å—æˆ‘çš„æé—®ï¼Œä¹Ÿç¥è´ºéžå¸¸ç¨³å¥çš„一个å£åº¦çš„业绩。那我这边有两æ¡é—®é¢˜ã€‚é‚£ç¬¬ä¸€æ¡æ˜¯follow up刚刚管ç†å±‚èŠåˆ°çš„,那现在客户对于市ä¸å¿ƒçš„颗粒度会å˜å¾—比较的高。那特别是对于ä¸åŒåœ°ç‚¹çš„基地型的市ä¸å¿ƒï¼Œæƒ³è¯·æ•™ä¸€ä¸‹ï¼Œé‚£å®¢æˆ·çš„å好考虑分别有哪些?那在我们ä¸åŒçš„区域的基地里é¢ï¼Œé‚£å®¢æˆ·çš„需求有哪些ä¸åŒï¼Ÿè¿™æ˜¯ç¬¬ä¸€ä¸ªé—®é¢˜ã€‚那第二个问题是想请教一下关于我们的基地型数æ®ä¸å¿ƒçš„ä»·æ ¼ã€‚é‚£æˆ‘ä»¬çœ‹åˆ°ä¸‰å£åº¦å¯èƒ½æœ‰ä¸€äº›çŽ¯æ¯”å’ŒåŒæ¯”的波动。那想请教一下我们对于四å£åº¦ä»¥åŠæ˜Žå¹´æ•´ä¸ªåŸºåœ°åž‹æ•°æ®ä¸å¿ƒçš„ä»·æ ¼è¶‹åŠ¿æ˜¯æ€Žä¹ˆåˆ¤æ–的?谢谢。 Timothy ZhaoAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:29:03好,谢谢。我æ¥å›žç”æ‚¨è¿™ä¸ªé—®é¢˜ã€‚ç¬¬ä¸€ä¸ªå°±åƒæ‚¨åˆšæ‰è°ˆåˆ°çš„,就是现在客户在全国范围内他的订å•呢,他是对ä¸åŒçš„区域是有自己的考é‡ã€‚那其实客户呢,他本身æ¥è®²å¹¶æ²¡æœ‰ä»€ä¹ˆæ˜Žæ˜¾çš„åå¥½ï¼Œè€Œæ˜¯æ ¹æ®ä»–自己的业务类型ã€ç¦»ä»–总部的地点,包括他原有的内容ã€åŽŸæœ‰çš„å®¹é‡è¿›è¡Œæ‰©å®¹çš„ä¾¿åˆ©åº¦ï¼Œè¿™å‡ ä¸ªç»´åº¦æ¥è¿›è¡Œè€ƒé‡çš„。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:29:33I'll take your first question. Actually, the client takes specific considerations with regard to their orders for their business across different regions. They do not have very particular preferences. I think the major considerations on their end is first the type of business and product offerings, second the distance or proximity to their headquarter, and the third is how convenient it is to scale up the existing capacity that they have with us. Timothy ZhaoAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:30:07对,å¦å¤–一个呢,就是您å¯ä»¥çœ‹åˆ°ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯ä»¥æˆ‘们公å¸ä¸ºä¾‹ï¼Œé‚£å®¢æˆ·åœ¨ä¸åŒçš„地点æ¥é‡Šæ”¾è®¢å•的节å¥å‘¢ï¼Œä¹Ÿæ˜¯ä¸ä¸€æ ·çš„。一般呢,æ¯ä¸ªå£åº¦å‘¢éƒ½ä¼šæœ‰ä¸€äº›å˜åŒ–。那从我们æ¥è®²ï¼Œæ‚¨çŸ¥é“我们在环京地区的这个基地以åŠé•¿ä¸‰è§’地区的基地呢,承接现在主è¦å®¢æˆ·çš„éœ€æ±‚æ¯”è¾ƒå¤šã€‚é‚£åŒæ—¶å‘¢ï¼Œåœ¨æˆ‘们的具体到在比方说河北地区,比方说乌兰察布地区呢,客户呢释放呢也是有他的节å¥ã€‚这个呢是从我们æ¥çœ‹ï¼Œä¸€ä¸ªä¸€æ–¹é¢å‘¢æ˜¯ä¸»è¦æ˜¯å®¢æˆ·è‡ªå·±æ ¹æ®è‡ªå·±çš„ä¸šåŠ¡ï¼Œæ¯”æ–¹è¯´ä»–å¯¹å®žéªŒçš„è¦æ±‚ï¼Œä»–ä¼šé€‰æ‹©å°±è¿‘çš„åœ°ç‚¹ã€‚åŒæ—¶å‘¢ï¼Œä¹Ÿæœ‰ä¸€ä¸ªå¾ˆé‡è¦çš„考é‡å‘¢ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯å®¢æˆ·çš„æ‰©å®¹ï¼Œä»–的就近的扩容的这个需求。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:30:57Take VNET for example. We have observed that clients have different types of pace with regard to their requests across different regions. It would vary quarter by quarter. We have a lot of the demand coming from the Greater Beijing Area as well as the Yangtze River Delta area. However, we do have upcoming new demands from customers for campuses in Hebei Province as well as the Ulanqab campus. Like I said, the major considerations on the client side are their current product offerings and the proximity to their headquarters as well as how convenient it is to scale their existing capacity with us. That is the major consideration on their end. Based on that, they are varying their requests quarter by quarter. Timothy ZhaoAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:31:53æ‚¨è¿˜åŒæ—¶ä¹Ÿé—®åˆ°äº†å…³äºŽçŽ°åœ¨ä»·æ ¼çš„ä¸€äº›æƒ…å†µã€‚é‚£é¦–å…ˆå‘¢ï¼Œæˆ‘æƒ³è·Ÿæ‚¨åˆ†äº«çš„æ˜¯ä»Žç›®å‰ç‰¹åˆ«æ˜¯Q3æ¥çœ‹ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬çš„ä»·æ ¼å‘¢ï¼Œç‰¹åˆ«æ˜¯åŸºåœ°åž‹é¡¹ç›®çš„ä»·æ ¼å‘¢ï¼Œæ˜¯ä¿æŒéžå¸¸å¹³ç¨³çš„这个æ€åŠ¿ã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:32:11With regard to the pricing of our wholesale IDCs, according to what we have observed, the pricing for Q3 was fairly stable. Timothy ZhaoAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:32:21那我愿æ„å‘¢å†ç¨å¾®çš„åšä¸¤ç‚¹è¯´æ˜Žã€‚第一个呢,就是由于客户呢,他的上架节å¥å‘¢ï¼Œä¸€èˆ¬å‘¢ä¼šé«˜äºŽä»–的预期,高于我们的预期。所以使得呢,我们的项目的IR呢,普é呢会好于我们的预期。这是第一个åšçš„补充说明。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:32:40I would like to elaborate on that. First, customers are moving in faster than we expected. Therefore, the IR of these projects are better than we expected. Timothy ZhaoAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:32:50那第二个我也éžå¸¸å¦è¯šçš„跟您交æµå‘¢ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯ç¡®ç¡®å®žå®žå…¬å¸åœ¨ç‰¹åˆ«æ˜¯èµ„æºç›¸å¯¹ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯æ•´ä½“的市场供求关系平衡,资æºç”šè‡³æœ‰ç•¥æ˜¾ç´§å¼ 地区æ¥è®²ï¼Œä¸–纪互è”呢,我们确实我们ä¸é‡‡å–所谓低价的ç–略呢,æ¥å‚ä¸Žå®¢æˆ·çš„ä¸€äº›æŠ•æ ‡å·¥ä½œã€‚æ‰€ä»¥ä»Žè¿™è§’åº¦æ¥çœ‹ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬è¿˜æ˜¯ä¿æŒç€æˆ‘ä»¬çš„æŠ•æ ‡ä»·æ ¼ä»¥åŠæˆäº¤ä»·æ ¼çš„。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:33:18Number two, frankly speaking, in areas where the dynamics of supply and demand is in tight balance, VNET do not engage in the biddings with low prices. Therefore, we are able to secure fairly stable order or contract price. Timothy ZhaoAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:33:38好,谢谢。 Thank you. Operator00:33:39Next question. Shengguang LiuHead of Investor Relations at VNET Group00:33:42Thank you. Your next question comes from Dean Liu from Bank of America. Please go ahead. Dean LiuAssistant Vice President, Enterprise Credit at Bank of America00:33:50Hi, Management. Thanks for taking my question. Congrats on the strong results. I have two questions here. First one is in our last earnings call, we mentioned we have a few projects and we are participating for the tendering. Could you update us the progress and how we complete all the projects ongoing, or how many projects we are doing with our clients? In future, how do you see the seasonality of more tendering in future? My second question is about the new land and power resources. In this quarter, we see our total resources on hand is likely stable. In future, where would we, which area will be our focus to find more resources, land and power? 好的,我这边翻译一下。æå–œç®¡ç†å±‚这个éžå¸¸è¯¦ç»†çš„业绩。第一个问题想请问就是上个业绩会我们æåˆ°å°±æ˜¯è¯´æˆ‘们有å‚åŠ äº†ä¸€äº›å®¢æˆ·çš„ä¸€äº›ç«žæ ‡çš„ä¸€ä¸ªå·¥ä½œã€‚æƒ³é—®ä¸€ä¸‹è¿™äº›çš„è¿›å±•çŽ°åœ¨éƒ½æ˜¯å¯èƒ½æœ‰äº›é¡¹ç›®å·²ç»å®Œæˆäº†ï¼Œè¿˜æœ‰å“ªäº›å¯èƒ½åœ¨è°ˆçš„过程ä¸ï¼Ÿæœªæ¥æˆ‘们这个新订å•客户å‘å•的这个å£èŠ‚æ€§ï¼Œå¤§æ¦‚å¯èƒ½æœªæ¥è¿™ä¸€å¹´çš„æˆ–者说这åŠå¹´æ˜¯æ€Žä¹ˆåŽ»é¢„æœŸçš„ï¼Ÿç„¶åŽå…¶æ¬¡å°±ç¬¬äºŒä¸ªé—®é¢˜æ˜¯å…³äºŽæˆ‘们的资æºã€‚ç›®å‰ä¸‰å£åº¦æ¥çœ‹ï¼ŒäºŒå£åº¦æ˜¯å¤§æ¦‚平稳的状æ€ã€‚æœªæ¥æˆ‘们对新的这个电力还有这个土地资æºï¼Œè¿™ä¸ªæœªæ¥åŽ»èŽ·å¾—æ›´å¤šèµ„æºï¼Œè¿™ä¸ªæ˜¯æ€Žä¹ˆè€ƒè™‘的?哪些地域是我们å¯èƒ½é‡ç‚¹å޻开å‘,或者说我们现有的一些地方?好,谢谢。 Dean LiuAssistant Vice President, Enterprise Credit at Bank of America00:35:46好,谢谢您的问题。我æ¥å›žç”您的问题。关于第一个问题呢,就å‰é¢æˆ‘也ç¨å¾®æè¿°ä¸€ä¸‹ã€‚我在这儿å†è·Ÿæ‚¨åšä¸€ä¸ªè§£é‡Šå’Œè¯´æ˜Žã€‚就是从å‘展趋势æ¥çœ‹ï¼Œç¡®ç¡®å®žå®žåœ¨2025年的一二三个å£åº¦å‘¢ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯å®¢æˆ·å‘¢ï¼Œé‡Šæ”¾çš„需求呢,是éšç€ä¸åŒçš„客户,他有ä¸åŒçš„节å¥ï¼Œé‡Šæ”¾çš„ä¸åŒçš„é‡ã€‚我们紧跟客户的这些节å¥å‘¢ï¼Œæ¥æŠ“ä½å®¢æˆ·çš„需求,æ¥ç»™å®¢æˆ·æä¾›è¿™ä¸ªæœåŠ¡ã€‚é‚£ä¹ˆæ‚¨å¯ä»¥çœ‹åˆ°ï¼Œæˆ‘åšäº†ä¸€ä¸ªç®€è¦çš„ç»Ÿè®¡ï¼Œå°±ä»Žä»Šå¤©å¾€å‰æŽ¨ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬å‰12个月呢,我们总共获得订å•呢,超过了331兆瓦。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:36:28Thank you for questions. As we have observed for the first three quarters, different customers are coming up with different requests at different paces. For us, we follow their paces closely. I have did a very brief summary for what we have achieved in terms of the new orders that we have secured for the past 12 months. That was 331 megawatts. Dean LiuAssistant Vice President, Enterprise Credit at Bank of America00:36:58那展望åŽ12个月,当然包括2026年,我们觉得我们现在对于客户的æœåŠ¡è®¤çŸ¥ä½¿å¾—æˆ‘ä»¬æœ‰ä¿¡å¿ƒå‘¢ï¼Œç¬¬ä¸€ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬æœ‰ä¿¡å¿ƒåœ¨åŽ12ä¸ªæœˆå‘¢ï¼Œä¿æŒä½å…¬å¸çš„这一å‘展的势头和这个订å•的数é‡ã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:37:18Looking ahead to 2026, based on the services we are offering to our clients as well as the understanding of our clients, we are confident that we are able to sustain this growth momentum. Dean LiuAssistant Vice President, Enterprise Credit at Bank of America00:37:33åŒæ—¶æˆ‘们在æœåŠ¡å®¢æˆ·åŸºåœ°åž‹é¡¹ç›®çš„åŒæ—¶ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬ä¹Ÿå¯†åˆ‡å…³æ³¨å®¢æˆ·ä»¥åŠæ•´ä½“çš„AIçš„å‘展的趋势。那么我们也认为呢,éšç€AIçš„é€æ¥çš„æŽ¨è¿›ï¼Œç‰¹åˆ«æ˜¯è®ç»ƒå’ŒæŽ¨ç†ï¼Œå¹³è¡¡æŽ¨ç†é€æ¸æˆä¸ºæ–°çš„增长引擎,这些特点呢,我们也在这个预判到这一趋势以åŽï¼Œæˆ‘们也在资æºçš„部署ã€åŸŽå¸‚åž‹çš„æ”¹é€ ï¼Œä»¥åŠå‘¢ï¼Œæˆ‘们对于GPU的判æ–,我们会ä¿ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬å¯¹è¿™ä¸ªä¿¡å¿ƒå‘¢ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬å¯¹è¿™ä¸ªåˆ¤æ–æ˜¯æœ‰ä¿¡å¿ƒçš„。我们也相信éšç€è¿™äº›éœ€æ±‚çš„é€æ¥çš„释放,特别是大客户将这个è®ç»ƒæŽ¨ç†ã€ç§æœ‰åŒ–部署ã€ç¾¤ä½“æ™ºèƒ½çš„é€æ¥çš„é‡Šæ”¾ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬æœ‰ä¿¡å¿ƒå‘¢ï¼Œä¿æŒè¿™ä¸€æ•°å—。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:38:30With regard to the wholesale IDCs, we have been following closely the client's AI development trend. We have noticed that customers are actually balancing their inferencing and training demands. We have captured that change. The customers are pivoting more towards the inferencing, and we are deploying resources accordingly to meet that customer's needs. Therefore, we are repurposing some of our cabinets and acquiring GPUs in advance. This would put us in a good position to accommodate our users' needs. Particularly with these orders from the key clients, we are confident that with the efforts on our end, we are able to accommodate users' needs as the AI growth momentum continues to unleash. Dean LiuAssistant Vice President, Enterprise Credit at Bank of America00:39:27è°¢è°¢ã€‚æˆ‘å›žç”æ‚¨ç¬¬äºŒä¸ªé—®é¢˜ã€‚这个问题呢,是éžå¸¸å…³é”®ï¼Œä»¥åŠå‘¢ï¼Œæ˜¯å…¬å¸å‘¢ï¼Œè€ƒé‡æ¯”较多的一个问题。首先想跟您说明一下,就是除了我们会通过和客户的æœåŠ¡å’Œè¿‘è·ç¦»çš„æŽ¥è§¦å‘¢ï¼Œæˆ‘们会准备好明年的这个工作和资æºçš„åŒæ—¶å‘¢ï¼Œå…¬å¸å·²ç»å°†æœªæ¥çš„五年作为我们今åŽå‘展的一个基本时间长度æ¥è§„划和获å–资æºã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:40:08With regard to your second question on resources that we are planning to acquire in the future, that's something that the company values a lot and puts a lot of thought in. Based on the service that we offer to our clients, as well as the understanding that we have on them, we are planning our resources for the next year. On top of that, we have extended our planning over to a five-year horizon rather than on a yearly basis. This would allow us to plan more strategically to accommodate users' needs. Dean LiuAssistant Vice President, Enterprise Credit at Bank of America00:40:41è€ƒè™‘åˆ°äº”å¹´å‘¢ï¼Œæœ‰å‡ ä¸ªåŸºæœ¬çš„è€ƒé‡ã€‚第一个,客户的通算和测算的æœåŠ¡çš„æ¯”ä¾‹ã€‚ç¬¬äºŒä¸ªå°±æ˜¯å®¢æˆ·åœ¨ä¸åŒåŒºåŸŸä»–对资æºçš„需求。第三个æ¥è®²å°±æ˜¯AIå’ŒGPUçš„å‘展。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:40:57To break it down, we carefully weigh three factors. One is the split, the demand split between generic computing power versus smart computing power. The second is the geolocations. The third is the AI GPU-related chips development. Dean LiuAssistant Vice President, Enterprise Credit at Bank of America00:41:18那具体到您的问题,我在最åŽåšä¸€ç‚¹è¡¥å……说明。那具体到明年,那明年我们还会首先èšç„¦åœ¨çŽ¯äº¬åœ°åŒºï¼ŒåŒ…æ‹¬ä¹Œå…°å¯Ÿå¸ƒï¼ŒåŒ…æ‹¬æ²³åŒ—ã€åŒ—äº¬çš„å‘¨è¾¹åœ°åŒºã€‚åŒæ—¶æˆ‘们也已ç»åœ¨é•¿ä¸‰è§’地区开展了资æºçš„获å–工作,é¢å‘äº”å¹´çš„ä¸æœŸå¸ƒå±€ï¼Œæ”¯æŒé•¿ä¸‰è§’的客户。除æ¤ä»¥å¤–,我们也å¯åŠ¨äº†åœ¨çŽ¯äº¬å’Œé•¿ä¸‰è§’åœ°åŒºä»¥å¤–çš„èµ„æºçš„å¸ƒå±€å·¥ä½œã€‚å½“æœ‰åˆæ¥ç»“果以åŽï¼Œæˆ‘们会在适时的公布。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:41:52More specifically, with regard to next year, we are going to focus, number one, the Greater Beijing Area, particularly Ulanqab, Hebei, and the Beijing surrounding areas. Number two, the Yangtze River Delta areas. We are starting to acquire resources for the next five years to accommodate our users' demand. Additionally, we are exploring the resources outside of these two major areas that I mentioned. Thank you. Shengguang LiuHead of Investor Relations at VNET Group00:42:32Thank you. Your next question comes from Sarah Wang from UBS. Please go ahead. Sarah WangDirector at UBS00:42:40Thank you for the opportunity to ask a question. I actually only have one question. I recall earlier this year, Management had shared that one of the top priorities from Hyperscale customers is the time to market. Has that changed? Also, as inference demand is going to be the growth driver into next year, is there any change in the customer's consideration in terms of new order release? If we talk about more workloads by inference, that means maybe user latency will be a relatively more important consideration factor going forward. 感谢æé—®çš„æœºä¼šï¼Œé‚£ä¹Ÿéžå¸¸æå–œå…¬å¸å–å¾—å¾ˆå¼ºåŠ²çš„ä¸šç»©ã€‚é‚£æˆ‘åªæœ‰ä¸€ä¸ªé—®é¢˜ï¼Œå°±æƒ³è¯·æ•™ä¸€ä¸‹ï¼Œå› 为今年上åŠå¹´çš„æ—¶å€™ï¼Œæˆ‘记得管ç†å±‚有æåˆ°å½“时这个客户对于新的,尤其是AIæ•°æ®ä¸å¿ƒçš„äº¤ä»˜é€Ÿåº¦ï¼Œæœ‰æ¯”è¾ƒé«˜çš„ä¸€ä¸ªè¦æ±‚。我ä¸çŸ¥é“é‚£ä¸ªè¦æ±‚到现在有没有一些å˜åŒ–。如果我们展望未æ¥çš„一些潜在的新订å•,对于我们这些超大规模的客户æ¥è¯´ï¼Œä»–们最看é‡çš„å› ç´ æœ‰å“ªäº›ï¼Ÿé‚£åˆšåˆšå…¶å®žç®¡ç†å±‚也æåˆ°æ˜Žå¹´å¯èƒ½æ˜¯æŽ¨ç†éœ€æ±‚会增长很强劲的一年。那推ç†éœ€æ±‚èµ·æ¥çš„è¯ï¼Œä¼šä¸ä¼šä¹Ÿå¯¹è¿™ä¸ªç”¨æˆ·å»¶è¿Ÿæˆ–者是这个地ç†ä½ç½®æœ‰ä¸€äº›æ–°çš„è¦æ±‚?谢谢。 Sarah WangDirector at UBS00:44:09谢谢您的问题。我先从您最åŽçš„一个问题æ¥å›žåº”。就是确确实实我们的判æ–çš„è®ç»ƒå’ŒæŽ¨ç†å‘¢ï¼Œä¼šåŽ»å¹´å’Œä»Šå¹´å‘¢ï¼Œéƒ½æ˜¯åŒæ¥åœ¨å¼€å±•。那么明年æ¥è®²çš„è¯å‘¢ï¼Œæ…¢æ…¢æŽ¨ç†å‘¢ï¼Œä¼šæˆä¸ºä¸€ä¸ªæ›´å¤šçš„一个新的增长的一个引擎。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:44:28I'll take answer the second half of your question. Yes, we have observed that inferencing will become a major growth driver for next year. Sarah WangDirector at UBS00:44:40æ‰€ä»¥è¿™æ ·å¯¹äºŽå®¢æˆ·æ¥è®²ï¼Œä»–å¯¹åœ°ç‚¹çš„é€‰æ‹©å‘¢ï¼Œä»–ä¼šè¦æ±‚的时延会越æ¥è¶Šå°ï¼Œè¶Šå°è¶Šå¥½ã€‚æ‰€ä»¥å‘¢ï¼Œåœ¨çŽ¯äº¬åœ°åŒºï¼Œé‚£ä¹ˆåŒ…æ‹¬æ²³åŒ—ï¼ŒåŒ…æ‹¬ä¹Œå…°å¯Ÿå¸ƒï¼Œå¯¹äºŽæˆ‘ä»¬å…¬å¸æ¥è®²ï¼Œé‚£å®¢æˆ·å‘¢ï¼Œåœ¨è¿™æ–¹é¢æ¥è®²çš„è¯å‘¢ï¼Œè¦æ±‚下å•呢,会比较多。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:45:02That means the customers have higher requirement in terms of latency. The lower latency, the better. Therefore, we are in a very good position to meet customers' needs with our campuses in the Greater Beijing Area, particularly Hebei Province, as well as the Ulanqab campus. Sarah WangDirector at UBS00:45:20é‚£å†å›žåˆ°æ‚¨çš„刚æ‰ç¬¬ä¸€ä¸ªé—®é¢˜ï¼Œç¡®å®žè¿™ä¸ªé—®é¢˜æ¥è®²ï¼Œå¯¹æˆ‘们呢,是一个,sorry,很难å‘,幸ç¦çš„烦æ¼ï¼Œå’‹ä¸è¯´ã€‚就是这个问题对我们æ¥è®²æ˜¯ç¡®ç¡®å®žå®žæŒ‘战éžå¸¸é«˜çš„。客户呢,对于新订å•çš„äº¤ä»˜é€Ÿåº¦ï¼Œä¸€å¦‚æ—¢å¾€å‘¢ï¼Œæ˜¯è¦æ±‚的比较高。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:45:40With regard to the first half of your question, yes, it is quite a trade-off that we have to face. We are facing significant challenges in terms of how fast the customer wants to move in with the capacity that they have secured with us. Sarah WangDirector at UBS00:45:59那目å‰å‘¢ï¼Œæˆ‘们是通过三个主è¦çš„åšæ³•èƒ½å¤Ÿæ¥æ»¡è¶³å®¢æˆ·çš„è¦æ±‚。第一个呢,就是我们æå‰å¸ƒå±€å¥½åœŸå»ºå’Œå¤–电。第二个呢,就是我们进一æ¥åŠ å¼ºä¾›åº”é“¾çš„æ•´åˆèƒ½åŠ›ã€‚ç¬¬ä¸‰ä¸ªå‘¢ï¼Œæ˜¯æˆ‘ä»¬é€šè¿‡å»ºç‘çš„æ ‡å‡†åŒ–å’Œæœºç”µçš„æ¨¡å—化,能够实现快速交给客户。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:46:25There are three approaches that we are taking to meet customers' demand. Number one, we are planning early in terms of civil engineering and external power supply. Number two, we are consolidating our capacity in terms of supply chain management. Number three, we are adopting electrical mechanical modularization, as well as other standardized construction solutions to meet customers' needs. Sarah WangDirector at UBS00:46:54那最åŽå‘¢ï¼Œä¹Ÿè·Ÿæ‚¨åˆ†äº«ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯å®¢æˆ·çš„è¦æ±‚一般呢,还是T+6,也就是å…个月之内交付。那我们通过刚æ‰è·Ÿæ‚¨åˆ†äº«çš„这三个手段,能够满足客户的T+6çš„è¦æ±‚,甚至我们还åšåˆ°è¿‡ä¸€æ¬¡T+3的交付给客户。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:47:13As you know, the general timeline that the customer expects is T+6, which means they want to move in within six months after signing the contract. Yes, we are able to accommodate users' needs in terms of the horizon. In one particular case, we're even able to accommodate or deliver within three months after signing the contract, just so you know. Sarah WangDirector at UBS00:47:36好,谢谢。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:47:37Thank you. Operator00:47:39Next question, please. Shengguang LiuHead of Investor Relations at VNET Group00:47:41Thank you. Your next question comes from Xu Yunjie from CICC. Please go ahead. 00:47:49Hi, Management. Congratulations on the company's strong earners, and thank you for taking my question. My first question is about the wholesale IDC, and the delivery pace for the wholesale IDC business is very fast, and has the company set the utilization rate target for the next two years? My second question is about the retail IDC business. We have seen the retail business, IDC business, MRR has been growth in for several quarters, and what are the main drivers behind this trend, and how do you view this sustainability in the future? 管ç†å±‚好,éžå¸¸æå–œå…¬å¸çš„这个éžå¸¸å¼ºåŠ²çš„ä¸šç»©ï¼Œç„¶åŽä¹Ÿè°¢è°¢ç»™æˆ‘这个æé—®çš„æœºä¼šã€‚第一个问题是想è¦é—®ä¸€ä¸‹ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯åœ¨æˆ‘们现在的这个IDC的交付速度éžå¸¸å¿«çš„一个节å¥ä¸‹ï¼Œè¿™ä¸ªæƒ…况下呢,管ç†å±‚是怎么去看待就是未æ¥ä¸¤å¹´çš„æˆ‘ä»¬çš„æ•´ä¸ªçš„è¿™ä¸ªå•†å®¶çŽ‡çš„ä¸€ä¸ªç›®æ ‡ï¼Œå°¤å…¶æ˜¯æˆ‘ä»¬çš„è¿™ä¸ªå°±æ˜¯åŸºåœ°åž‹çš„è¿™ä¸€éƒ¨åˆ†çš„ä¸šåŠ¡ï¼Ÿç¬¬äºŒä¸ªå‘¢ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯å…³äºŽè¿™ä¸ªé›¶å”®åž‹ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬ä¹Ÿå·²ç»çœ‹åˆ°æˆ‘们的这个MRRå·²ç»æ˜¯æœ‰è¿žç»å¥½å‡ 个å£åº¦çš„一个稳å¥çš„增长了。那这个背åŽçš„主è¦çš„é©±åŠ¨å› ç´ æ˜¯ä»€ä¹ˆï¼Œå¹¶ä¸”å°±æ˜¯æ€Žä¹ˆåŽ»çœ‹å¾…ä¸€ä¸‹æœªæ¥çš„è¿™æ ·çš„ä¸€ä¸ªæŒç»æ€§ï¼Ÿè°¢è°¢ã€‚ 00:49:01好,谢谢您的问题。第一个关于这个基地型业务的这个商家率,那我们就åƒåˆšæ‰è°ˆåˆ°çš„ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬ä¼šæ ¹æ®å®¢æˆ·çš„è¦æ±‚åšæŒå¿«é€Ÿçš„上架节å¥ï¼Œäº¤ä»˜èŠ‚å¥ï¼ŒåŒæ—¶å®¢æˆ·çš„上架节å¥ä¹Ÿå¾ˆå¿«ã€‚é‚£ä¹ˆç›®å‰æˆ‘们æˆç†Ÿæœºæˆ¿çš„上架率呢,已ç»ä¿æŒåœ¨95%å·¦å³ã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:49:28With regard to the utilization rate, of course, the customers are demanding to move in at a faster pace. For our mature IDCs, the utilization rate is inching closer to 95%. 00:49:44é‚£è°ˆåˆ°ä¸Šæž¶çŽ‡è¿™ä¸ªçš„ç›®æ ‡å‘¢ï¼Œè¿™ä¸ªæˆ‘æƒ³ä¸»è¦å–决于我们明åŽä¸¤å¹´çš„这个交付é‡ã€‚åŒæ—¶å‘¢ï¼Œæˆ‘们会在这个Q4å§ï¼Œæˆ‘们会æä¾›æ›´å¤šçš„ä¿¡æ¯æ¥å›žç”æ‚¨çš„é—®é¢˜ã€‚åŒæ—¶å‘¢ï¼Œé•¿æœŸæ¥çœ‹çš„è¯å‘¢ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬æœ‰ä¿¡å¿ƒå‘¢ï¼Œä½¿å¾—æˆ‘ä»¬çš„å•†å®¶çŽ‡å‘¢ï¼Œç¨³æ¥æå‡ã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:50:08With regard to the specific target on the utilization rate, I think it partly depends on the capacity that's going to be delivered in the next two years. We will disclose more information in the Q4 financials, and we are, you know, in the long run, we are confident that the utilization rate will steadily increase. 00:50:29å†å›žç”您的第二个问题,éžå¸¸æ„Ÿè°¢æ‚¨å…³æ³¨æˆ‘ä»¬çš„é›¶å”®ä¸šåŠ¡ï¼Œå› ä¸ºæˆ‘ä»¬çš„åŸºåœ°åž‹ä¸šåŠ¡å¢žé•¿ä¸€ç›´æ˜¯ä¿æŒäº†æ¯”较高速的这个å‘展。那零售业务æ¥è®²ä¹Ÿæ˜¯å¾ˆè£å¹¸çš„è¯å‘¢ï¼Œèƒ½å¤Ÿåœ¨å¤šä¸ªå£åº¦å§ï¼Œèƒ½å¤ŸMRR呢,得到稳å¥çš„æå‡ã€‚您知é“这个领域的竞争其实也是蛮激烈的。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:50:50Thank you for your attention on our retail IDC business. As you know, the wholesale IDC business has been growing fairly quickly in contrast to the retail IDC. We are very pleased to see the MRR of our retail business continue to grow quarter over quarter for several consecutive quarters. As you know, the competition landscape in this sector is fairly intense. 00:51:16这背åŽçš„æˆ‘觉得主è¦çš„åŽŸå› å‘¢ï¼Œæœ‰è¿™ä¹ˆå‡ ä¸ªã€‚ç¬¬ä¸€ä¸ªå‘¢ï¼Œä»Žå¤–éƒ¨æ¥çœ‹ï¼Œå®¢æˆ·å¯¹äºŽé›¶å”®åž‹ä¸šåŠ¡çš„éœ€æ±‚å‘¢ï¼Œä»ŽåŽŸæ¥çš„åªæœ‰å˜å‚¨å’Œé€šç®—呢,慢慢æœç€å˜å‚¨ã€é€šç®—和制算呢,并é‡çš„这个趋势æ¥ã€‚æ‰€ä»¥æˆ‘ä»¬å‘¢ï¼Œèƒ½å¤Ÿé€šè¿‡æˆ‘ä»¬çš„æŠ€æœ¯æ”¹é€ æ‰¿æŽ¥å®¢æˆ·è¿™ä¸‰ç±»çš„éœ€æ±‚ï¼Œä½¿å¾—æˆ‘ä»¬å‘¢ï¼Œèƒ½å¤Ÿä¿éšœè¿™ä¸ªä¸šåŠ¡çš„ä¸šç»©çš„å¢žé•¿ã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:51:50I think the growth partly boils down to a couple of factors. Number one, in terms of the needs of customers, they are adding smart computing on top of storage plus generic computing, and we are proactively repurposing our cabinets in order to meet their demands, in order to capitalize on this growth momentum and need. 00:52:15从我们内部的角度æ¥çœ‹ï¼Œæˆ‘们åšäº†ä¸¤ä»¶äº‹æƒ…。第一个呢,我们在æä¾›æœ€åŸºæœ¬çš„æ‰˜ç®¡æœåŠ¡çš„ä¹‹ä¸Šï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬è¿˜ä¸ºå®¢æˆ·æä¾›ä¸€äº›ä»¥è½¯ä»¶æœåŠ¡ï¼ŒåŒ…æ‹¬ç®—åŠ›ç½‘ç»œã€å˜å‚¨ç½‘ç»œè¿™æ ·çš„å¢žå€¼æœåŠ¡ã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:52:35Factor number two on our side, on top of the hosting service we offer to the clients, we are providing incremental value-added services on the software level, let's say networking, as well as storage networking services. 00:52:51å¦å¤–呢,就是之å‰å‘¢ï¼Œæˆ‘ä¹Ÿè·Ÿå¤§å®¶ä¹Ÿåˆ†äº«è¿‡ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯åœ¨ä¸¤å¹´å‰æˆ‘们就已ç»å¼€å§‹è¿›è¡Œæˆ‘们零售业务或者城市型数æ®ä¸å¿ƒçš„é«˜ç”µæœºæŸœçš„æ”¹é€ ã€‚ä»Žè¿™ä¸ªå·¥ä½œæˆ‘ä»¬æ¯å¹´éƒ½è¿›è¡Œï¼Œé‚£ç›®å‰çœ‹å‘¢ï¼Œæˆ‘们也å—益于æ¤ã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:53:10Another factor is the initiative of repurposing the retail cabinets into higher density cabinets, and clearly we are benefiting from these efforts and initiatives. 00:53:25最åŽå‘¢ï¼Œæˆ‘想说一å¥ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯åªè¦å®¢æˆ·çš„需求ã€å˜å‚¨ã€é€šç®—和制算,包括增值æœåŠ¡æŒç»ä¿æŒçš„è¯å‘¢ï¼Œæˆ‘们相信我们的零售业务呢,也能够éšç€å®¢æˆ·çš„这些需求呢,æŒç»åœ°ä¿æŒæœªæ¥å‘展的æŒç»æ€§ã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:53:44Last but not least, should the demand from customers in terms of storage, generic computing plus value-added services sustain, we are confident to sustain the growth momentum of our retail business. 00:54:00好,谢谢。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:54:01Thank you. Operator00:54:02Next question, please. Shengguang LiuHead of Investor Relations at VNET Group00:54:04Thank you. Your next question comes from Andy Yu from DBS. Please go ahead. Andy YuAnalyst at DBS00:54:12Hi, thank you Management for taking my questions and congratulations on the solid results. I have two questions. Your key peer has announced plans to expand into regions with lower electricity costs to capture AI training demand. How do you see the supply-demand dynamics will evolve in these regions where VNET currently has a first-mover advantage? Secondly, the government's stand on data center C-REITs has become more positive. With a shorter timeline for new asset ingestion pools IPO, do we expect our C-REIT application to accelerate? Apart from REITs projects, what will our funding strategy be going forward? é‚£æ ·æˆ‘ç¿»è¯‘ä¸€ä¸‹å‘¢ï¼Œæå–œå…¬å¸äº®ä¸½çš„业绩。我有两æ¡é—®é¢˜æƒ³è¯·æ•™ä¸€ä¸‹ã€‚那昨天有åƒä¹Ÿå®£å¸ƒè®¡åˆ’è¿›å…¥ç”µè´¹æ›´ä½Žçš„åœ°åŒºæ¥æ»¡è¶³AIè®ç»ƒéœ€æ±‚。公å¸åœ¨ä¹Œå…°å¯Ÿå¸ƒå·²ç»æœ‰å…ˆå‘布局,请问管ç†å±‚æ€Žæ ·çœ‹æœªæ¥è¿™äº›åœ°åŒºçš„ä¾›éœ€å’Œç«žäº‰çš„æƒ…å†µä¼šæœ‰æ€Žæ ·çš„æ”¹å˜ï¼Ÿç„¶åŽå°±æ˜¯æ”¿åºœä¹Ÿå¯¹æ•°æ®ä¸å¿ƒC-REITæ€åº¦æ›´ç§¯æžï¼Œä¹Ÿç¼©çŸäº†IPOåŽæ–°èµ„产注入时间。请问我们的C-REITç”³è¯·ä¼šåŠ å¿«å—?然åŽREITsä»¥å¤–ï¼Œå…¬å¸æœªæ¥æ•´ä½“çš„èžèµ„è®¡åˆ’æ˜¯æ€Žæ ·çš„ï¼Ÿè°¢è°¢ã€‚ Andy YuAnalyst at DBS00:55:30å¥½ï¼Œè°¢è°¢ã€‚æˆ‘å…ˆå›žç”æ‚¨çš„ç¬¬ä¸€ä¸ªé—®é¢˜ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯æˆ‘æƒ³æ˜¯è¿™æ ·ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯æ ¹æ®å„个ä¼ä¸šè‡ªèº«çš„历å²çš„åŽŸå› ï¼Œå¯¹äºŽå¸‚åœºçš„åˆ¤æ–以åŠå¯¹äºŽå‘展ç–略的ä¸åŒå‘¢ï¼Œé‚£ä¹ˆæˆ‘想æ¯ä¸ªä¼ä¸šå‘¢ï¼Œä¼šå¯¹ä¸åŒçš„区域æ¥è¿›è¡Œå¸ƒå±€ï¼Œæ¥è¿›è¡Œè¿™ä¸ªèµ„æºçš„获å–。那么从我想从我们公å¸çš„考é‡å‘¢ï¼Œç»™æ‚¨å±•å¼€åšä¸€ä¸ªæŠ¥å‘Šï¼Œåšä¸€ä¸ªæ±‡æŠ¥ã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:56:00Thank you. I'll take your first question. I think different companies are adopting different strategic growth approaches with regard to their own reading on the market dynamics as well as their development legacy. They are actually deploying resources based on all of these factors. However, I would like to elaborate on how we go about it. Andy YuAnalyst at DBS00:56:27首先呢,就是我们判æ–呢,就åƒåˆšæ‰å‰é¢æˆ‘也有æåˆ°ï¼Œæˆ‘们对于今åŽè¿™ä¸‰åˆ°äº”年,我们认为呢,AIçš„å‘展呢,ä»ç„¶æ˜¯ä¸€ä¸ªéžå¸¸é‡è¦çš„å‘展的引擎。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:56:43Like I iterated many times, over the next three to five years, AI is going to be increasingly more important growth driver. Andy YuAnalyst at DBS00:56:53那对于这个整个过程呢,我们公å¸å‘¢ï¼Œæœ‰è¿™æ ·çš„ç ”åˆ¤ä¾›æ‚¨å‚考。首先呢,我们会认为基础模型的è®ç»ƒå‘¢ï¼Œåœ¨å›½å†…呢,会集ä¸åœ¨ä¸ºæ•°ä¸å¤šçš„æœ‰å®žåŠ›çš„ä¸€äº›ä¼ä¸šå½“ä¸ã€‚更多的ä¼ä¸šå‘¢ï¼Œæ˜¯é‡‡ç”¨åŸºç¡€æ¨¡åž‹å‘¢ï¼Œæ¥è¿›è¡Œä½¿ç”¨ï¼Œç”¨æŽ¨ç†æˆ–用其他的领域。所以一å¥è¯ï¼ŒåŸºç¡€æ¨¡åž‹çš„è®ç»ƒä¼šè¶Šæ¥è¶Šå¤šåœ°é›†ä¸åœ¨ä¸ºæ•°ä¸å¤šçš„ä¼ä¸šå½“ä¸ï¼Œè¿™ä¸ªæ˜¯åˆšéœ€ã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:57:24On the corporate level, our reading is that the training of foundational models, that type of demand will be increasingly concentrated to one or few top capable deep-pocketed players. That is the first reading that we have on the market. Andy YuAnalyst at DBS00:57:43第二个呢,就是关于推ç†å’Œç§æœ‰åŒ–éƒ¨ç½²ä¼šä¿æŒå¢žé•¿çš„趋势,这一点呢,å¯ä»¥ä»Žæœ€è¿‘çš„æ°æ£®é»„的讲è¯å½“ä¸å‘¢ï¼Œå¾—到å°è¯ã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:57:56Number two, we believe that inferencing and private deployment will continue to sustain its growth momentum as it can be evidenced or confirmed from Jensen Huang's remarks. Andy YuAnalyst at DBS00:58:10第三个呢,我们认为在未æ¥çš„五年里边,éšç€å›½äº§GPUçš„å‘展和æˆç†Ÿï¼Œé‚£ä¹ˆæŽ¨ç†ã€ç§æœ‰åŒ–部署以åŠä¼šæ¶ŒçŽ°å‡ºæ¥çš„ç¾¤ä½“æ™ºèƒ½ï¼Œè¿™äº›éƒ½æ˜¯æˆ‘ä»¬å¿…é¡»è¦æŒç»å…³æ³¨çš„客户需求。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:58:28Number three, we believe over the course of the next five years, as the GPU grows, domestic GPU chips grow, there is going to be more demand from the inferencing, private deployment, as well as many emerging group intelligent agents. These are the growth areas or customer demands that we are paying closer attention to. Andy YuAnalyst at DBS00:58:55所以最åŽå‘¢ï¼Œæˆ‘æƒ³è¡¨è¾¾çš„æ„æ€å°±æ˜¯ï¼Œæˆ‘们世纪互è”会秉æŒä¸€ä¸ªåè°ƒå‘展的ç†å¿µï¼Œç”¨å…¬å¸åœ¨ä¸åŒçš„èµ„æºæ¥æ»¡è¶³å®¢æˆ·ä¸åŒçš„需求。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:59:11In a nutshell, we at VNET will adhere to the principle of a coordinated, balanced development, using our resources to meet users' varying demands. Andy YuAnalyst at DBS00:59:24好,谢谢。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group00:59:24Thank you. Shengguang LiuHead of Investor Relations at VNET Group00:59:26好,我è¦å›žç”一下您那个第二个问题,关于公募REITs。我们的那个公募REITs现在在很积æžçš„æŽ¨è¿›è¿‡ç¨‹ä¸ï¼Œè¿›å±•çŽ°åœ¨è¿˜ä¸æ–¹ä¾¿è¯´ï¼Œä½†æ˜¯æˆ‘们希望å¯ä»¥å°½å¿«ç»™å¤§å®¶åˆ†äº«ä¸€äº›å¥½æ¶ˆæ¯å§ã€‚那除了公募REITsä»¥å¤–ï¼Œåˆšæ‰æˆ‘也讲到了,公å¸çŽ°åœ¨å…¶å®žåœ¨ç§¯æžçš„æŽ¨è¿›è¿™ä¸ªæŒæœ‰åž‹ABS,也就是ç§å‹ŸREITsçš„å‘è¡Œã€‚è¿™ä¸ªäº§å“æˆ‘ä»¬å·²ç»æˆåŠŸå‘行了一个了,它å¯ä»¥æ‰¿è½½æˆ‘们更大规模的项目的这个资本化。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group01:00:00Our C-REIT is still underway. However, I am not in a position to disclose any information at the moment, and we wish to update you later as we see more progress. Other than the C-REITs or public REITs, we are proactively advancing the holding type ABS, also known as private REITs, and we have successfully issued one, and we are hopeful that this would allow us to recycle a major sizable fund or capital from such types of issuance. Shengguang LiuHead of Investor Relations at VNET Group01:00:39在这里借这个机会也想分享一个好消æ¯ï¼Œå°±æ˜¯æˆ‘们在国内的è¿è¥ä¸»ä½“,北京世纪互è”刚刚拿到了国内的一个评级机构的3A评级,这个在民è¥ä¼ä¸šé‡Œæ˜¯ä¸å¤šè§çš„ã€‚é‚£åŸºäºŽè¿™æ ·çš„è¯„çº§ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬ä¹Ÿåœ¨ç§¯æžçš„æŽ¨è¿›åœ¨å›½å†…的债券市场进行这个科创债的å‘行。那这类债券的利率是éžå¸¸ä½Žçš„,如果å¯ä»¥æˆåŠŸå‘行,对我们é™ä½Žèžèµ„æˆæœ¬å’Œæ‹“宽èžèµ„æ¸ é“也会有很大的帮助。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group01:01:09Additionally, I am happy to share that we, so one of the operating entities, domestic operating entities, Beijing VNET, has just received a AAA rating from a domestic rating institution, which is rare among private-owned companies, non-public, so non-OEMs, non-state-owned companies. With this rating, a favorable rating, we are actively advancing the issuance of domestic corporate bonds, particularly the Science and Tech Innovation Bond, which comes with a very favorable interest rate. Should it be pulled through, we are going to benefit from a lower interest rate with a widening channel of financing. Operator01:02:05Next question, please. Shengguang LiuHead of Investor Relations at VNET Group01:02:08Thank you. Your next question comes from Ethan Jiang from Nomura. Please go ahead. 01:02:15Okay, thanks Management for taking my question. Only one quick question. How do you see the trend for our unit CapEx spending? I noticed that for the first time of the total CapEx spend, it was around RMB 6 billion versus our full year guidance of RMB 10-12 billion. It looks a bit behind schedule versus our capacity delivery schedule. I am just wondering if Management can provide some colors on this, and also for next year's CapEx, what's our outlook and potential sources for funding our next year's CapEx? 很快翻译一下,就是这一个很快的问题,就是看到å‰ä¹ä¸ªæœˆå¯èƒ½æˆ‘们100到全年100到120亿的CapEx里é¢ï¼Œæˆ‘们åªèŠ±äº†å…åå‡ ä¸ªäº¿ï¼ŒåŒæ—¶æˆ‘们已ç»roll out了å¯èƒ½300兆瓦的这个capacity。就想问一下我们这个unit CapEx的这个trendæ˜¯æ€Žä¹ˆçœ‹çš„ï¼Œä»¥åŠæ˜Žå¹´æˆ‘们整体的这个CapEx的一个展望和我们怎么去fund这个我们明年的CapEx。谢谢。 01:03:23对,好,我æ¥å›žç”这个问题。我们现在主è¦çš„capex都在这个基地型的业务上,那目å‰åŸºåœ°åž‹çš„å•åƒç“¦capex的这个水平是在平稳下é™çš„一个趋势。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group01:03:39The majority of our CapEx is on the wholesale IDC, and the CapEx per unit megawatt for our wholesale IDC campuses are gradually trending down. 01:03:51对,明年的capex预算我们还在编制过程ä¸ï¼Œæˆ‘们æ£åœ¨æŒ‰ç…§ç±»ä¼¼25年的规模准备我们的èžèµ„è®¡åˆ’ã€‚é‚£èµ„é‡‘çš„æ¥æºä¸»è¦å°±æ˜¯é¡¹ç›®å±‚é¢çš„资产è¯åˆ¸åŒ–ï¼Œè¿˜æœ‰åˆšæ‰æåˆ°çš„å¢ƒå†…å€ºåˆ¸çš„å‘行。我们25年全年通过项目层é¢çš„这个pre-REITsã€ç§å‹ŸREITs,还有开å‘基金这些方å¼ï¼Œå®žçŽ°æˆ‘ä»¬è‚¡æƒç±»çš„这个资金回收超过20ä¸ªäº¿ã€‚æˆ‘ä»¬ç›®æ ‡26年的这个数å—è¦è¶…过25年。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group01:04:32We are still in the process of putting together our CapEx for next year, and we are preparing the similar size of funding, and the proceeds or the sources of this funding would mainly come from asset securitization as well as issuance of a domestic corporate bond. A quick number that I want to share with you. Through the pre-REITs, private REITs, and development fund that issued in 2025, we have successfully recycled CNY 2 billion through the equity assets. Our goal is that we are going to beat this number in 2026. 01:05:22所以我们现在èžèµ„的工具箱是éžå¸¸ä¸°å¯Œçš„,我们有信心在控制公å¸çš„æ æ†æ°´å¹³åœ¨æ¯”è¾ƒå®‰å…¨çš„æ°´å¹³çš„åŒæ—¶ï¼Œæ»¡è¶³è¿™ä¸ªæˆ‘们的capex的需求。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group01:05:37There are a lot of tools in our toolboxes, financing toolboxes, I would say, and we are confident that we are able to fund our CapEx while keeping the leverage ratio within a secure range or safe range. Operator01:05:55Next question, please. Shengguang LiuHead of Investor Relations at VNET Group01:05:59Thank you. Your next question, it comes from Anthony Leng from JP Morgan. Please go ahead. Anthony LengEquity Research Associate at JPMorgan01:06:06哈喽,管ç†å±‚,请问å¬å¾—到我的声音å—? Operator01:06:10å¯ä»¥å¬åˆ°ã€‚ Anthony LengEquity Research Associate at JPMorgan01:06:11strong, fast customer moving rate? Is there potential upside to the full-year guidance further? Second question is regarding the Q3 reported margin. There was some sequential decline versus Q2, despite a very strong customer moving rate. What could be the potential driver to cause this decline? What could be the next few quarters' EBITDA margin trend? So my first question is about the full-year upward revised guidance. It seems that in the fourth quarter, the implied revenue looks like there is a single-digit quarter-on-quarter decline. I would like to ask if there is any special reason for this part, or if there is potential upside to further revise up our full-year guidance, or if our full-year guidance is somewhat cautiously optimistic. The second question is about our Q3 EBITDA margin. This part seems to be down quarter-on-quarter, but our customer moving rate is very fast and demand is also very strong. Is there any special reason for this? I would like to ask about our future EBITDA margin trend. Thank you. Anthony LengEquity Research Associate at JPMorgan01:08:03对,我æ¥å›žç”这两个问题å§ã€‚就是全年的指引方é¢ï¼Œæˆ‘ä»¬ä¸€è´¯æ˜¯ä¸€ä¸ªæ¯”è¾ƒå®¡æ…Žçš„é£Žæ ¼ã€‚é‚£å…·ä½“çš„æ•°å—呢,我们还è¦å†è¿›ä¸€æ¥è§‚å¯Ÿä¸€ä¸‹æˆ‘ä»¬æ–°å®¢æˆ·çš„è¿™äº›ä¸Šæž¶é€Ÿåº¦ï¼ŒåŒ…æ‹¬ç”¨ç”µçš„æƒ…å†µï¼Œè¿™è·Ÿæˆ‘ä»¬çš„è¥æ”¶éƒ½æœ‰ä¸€äº›å…³ç³»ã€‚ç›®å‰çœ‹ç¬¬å››å£åº¦å‡ºçŽ°æ‚¨è¯´çš„è¥æ”¶çŽ¯æ¯”ä¸‹é™çš„å¯èƒ½æ€§éžå¸¸å°ï¼Œæ‚¨å¯ä»¥æ›´å¤šçš„å‚考我们全年业绩指引的更积æžçš„那个空间å§ã€‚ Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group01:08:34Let me take your question. As always, we have been consistently prudent in terms of offering our full year revenue guidance. I think we are going to watch closely the pace of our customers moving in, as well as the electricity used by them, because they are closely related to the revenue. Looking to the quarter-over-quarter growth, I think there is very little likelihood the Q4 revenue will decline sequentially. I would advise you to refer to the upper end of our full year revenue guidance range. Anthony LengEquity Research Associate at JPMorgan01:09:13EBITDA margin 有一点点å£èŠ‚æ€§çš„æ³¢åŠ¨ï¼Œè¿™ä¸ªæ˜¯åœ¨ä¸€ä¸ªæ£å¸¸çš„æ°´å¹³ä¸‹ã€‚æˆ‘ä»¬æ•´ä¸ªä¸šåŠ¡çš„æ”¶å…¥å•Šï¼ŒåŒ…æ‹¬æˆ‘ä»¬çš„æˆæœ¬æ°´å¹³éƒ½æ²¡æœ‰ä»€ä¹ˆæ˜¾è‘—çš„å˜åŒ–。 Qiyu WangCFO at VNET Group01:09:57With regard to the EBITDA margin, I would say it's within a reasonable range, because the majority of our revenue is from the wholesale IDC business. Because of the rising temperatures in Q3, we are seeing more tariffs for Q3. Given that, these are actually reflected in our P&L in terms of the tariffs that we pay. However, with regard to our operational costs, they are consistent. We do not see huge fluctuations. I would see this as reasonable seasonal fluctuations. Thank you. Shengguang LiuHead of Investor Relations at VNET Group01:10:51Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our conference for today. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect your lines.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesShengguang LiuHead of Investor RelationsJu MaRotating PresidentQiyu WangCFOAnalystsTom TangAnalyst at Morgan StanleyTimothy ZhaoAnalyst at Goldman SachsDean LiuAssistant Vice President, Enterprise Credit at Bank of AmericaSarah WangDirector at UBSAndy YuAnalyst at DBSAnthony LengEquity Research Associate at JPMorganPowered by