NASDAQ:BWAY Brainsway Q4 2024 Earnings Report $14.37 -1.52 (-9.57%) As of 01:01 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Brainsway EPS ResultsActual EPSN/AConsensus EPS $0.03Beat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/ABrainsway Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected Revenue$10.89 millionBeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/ABrainsway Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2024Date3/11/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateTuesday, March 11, 2025Conference Call Time8:30AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (20-F)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Brainsway Q4 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMarch 11, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Q4 2024 revenue reached $11.4 million, up 27% year-over-year, and full-year revenue hit $41 million, a 29% increase, driven by a 25% rise in deep TMS system placements. The company sustained a 75% gross margin in Q4 and FY 2024, marking its fifth consecutive quarter of net income and sixth consecutive quarter of positive adjusted EBITDA and operating cash flow. For FY 2025, Brainsway projects $49–51 million in revenue (20–24% growth), operating income of 3–4% of revenue, and adjusted EBITDA of 11–12%, reflecting confidence in ongoing sales momentum. As of December 31, 2024, the company held $69.4 million in cash with no debt, including $20 million from a private equity financing, providing strong financial flexibility for growth initiatives. Brainsway is advancing its clinical pipeline with a randomized study of an accelerated deep TMS protocol (data expected Q3 2025) and a multicenter trial of its next-generation DTMS360 system for alcohol use disorder in H2 2025. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallBrainsway Q4 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the BrainsWay fourth quarter and full year 2024 earnings conference call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Brian Ritchie of LifeSci Advisors. Please go ahead. Brian RitchieHead of Investor Relations at LifeSci Advisors00:00:40Thank you all, and welcome to BrainsWay's fourth quarter and full year 2024 earnings conference call. With us today are BrainsWay's Chief Executive Officer, Hadar Levy, and Chief Financial Officer, Ido Marom. The format for today's call will be a discussion of recent trends and business updates from Hadar, followed by a detailed discussion of the financials. We will open up the call for your questions. Earlier today, BrainsWay released financial results for the three months and full year ended December 31, 2024. A copy of the press release is available on the company's investor relations website. Brian RitchieHead of Investor Relations at LifeSci Advisors00:01:23Before I turn the call over to Hadar, I would like to remind you that this conference call, including both management's prepared remarks and the question-and-answer session, may contain projections or other forward-looking statements regarding, among other topics, BrainsWay's anticipated future operating and financial performance, business plans and prospects, and expectations for its products and pipeline, which are all subject to risks and uncertainties, including shifting market conditions resulting from geopolitical, supply chain, and other factors, as well as the use of non-GAAP financial information. Additional information regarding these and other risks is available in the company's earnings release and in its other filings with the SEC, including the risk factor section contained in BrainsWay's Form 20-F. I would now like to turn the call over to Hadar. Please go ahead, Hadar. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:02:24Thank you, Brian. Welcome, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. We are excited to announce today that we completed 2024 with another quarter of rapidly growing sales of our market-leading Deep TMS system. This steady rise in our performance reflects the successful execution of our strategy focused on building sales momentum and scale of our commercial distribution around the world. As you will see, these results further reinforce BrainsWay's true business and technological leadership position in the TMS field. On the top line, we generated $11.4 million in revenue, marking a 27% year-over-year increase. Our multi-year agreement with large enterprise networks strengthened customer partnerships beyond one-time sales, ensuring alignment with their evolving needs. Additionally, our lease-based business model option continues to expand our recurring revenue base, providing a more stable foundation for long-term growth. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:03:37In the fourth quarter of 2024, we shipped a total of 75 Deep TMS systems, representing a 25% increase compared with the same period last year. I think it is worth noting that, combined with our growing backlog and record revenues, we have established a positive book-to-bill ratio over the past several quarters. This underscores the exceptional execution of our commercial team as we continue to partner with larger enterprise customers, those that have consistently delivered the highest return on our sales and marketing investment. We have significantly expanded our market presence, making Deep TMS accessible to more customers than ever before. To support this growth, we optimized our sales force to accelerate expansion within larger institutional and enterprise accounts in the U.S. and internationally. Our global reach now extends across key markets, including Canada, Asia, India, and Europe. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:04:46As we successfully transition into this new phase of growth, we are driving increased profitability, further setting us apart in our industry. This is reflected in our strong gross margin, which was 75% in the fourth quarter and for the full year. We generated positive quarterly net income for the fifth consecutive quarter and positive adjusted EBITDA and cash flow from operation for the sixth consecutive quarter. Looking ahead, we are introducing full year 2025 revenue in the range of $49 million-$51 million. This would represent a growth of 20%-24% over 2024. We also anticipate generating operating income of 3%-4% and adjusted EBITDA of 11%-12% for the full year 2025. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:05:45We aim to further solidify our market leadership by leveraging our strong sales momentum and executing key strategic investment across three core areas: advancing our next-generation Deep TMS 360 system, conducting clinical trials to expand and enhance treatment capabilities, and strengthening our commercial presence through targeted sales and marketing initiatives. Our primary objectives are to drive market awareness, execute on our R&D roadmap, and expand access to Deep TMS. We believe that these are critical as we work to further cement our role in shaping the future of mental health treatment. On the commercial front, we expect to see increased sales around OCD in 2025, as our system is the first TMS therapy approved for obsessive-compulsive disorder. OCD is a difficult-to-treat disease with limited treatment options, with a substantial potential market of roughly 400,000 patients annually who are resistant to current treatment options. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:06:59As a reminder, our most recent data for this indication are very positive, with over 60% of patients responding to Deep TMS treatment. Turning to depression, doctors have been reporting an increase in anxious depression Deep TMS treatment in the U.S. As a reminder, this refers to the patient with major depressive disorder who also exhibit comorbid and anxiety symptoms. This is a large addressable medical need that affects approximately 10-16 million adults in the U.S. each year. As a reminder, our system was the first TMS device cleared by the FDA to effectively treat this condition. We have also seen an increase in utilization of Deep TMS to treat elderly patients with MDD in the second half of 2024. This traction in the market follows the U.S. FDA's groundbreaking decision to raise the upper age limit from 68 to 86 years old for the indication in June 2024. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:08:08As life expectancies continue to rise, many are looking for innovative therapeutic solutions to alleviate the significant burden this condition places on our aging population. This clearance made our system the first and only TMS device approved to treat elderly patients with MDD. We are also working on collecting data on Deep TMS for potential treatment for adolescent depression patients, and we'll update you all to the extent we make progress on this front as well. In September, we announced that the Israeli Ministry of Defense Rehabilitation Department granted approval for the reimbursement of Deep TMS therapy for qualifying patients at Israeli public hospitals with post-traumatic stress disorder, or PTSD. We will continue working to expand the available reimbursement for PTSD in Israel, with the goal of potentially including more Israeli medical centers, as well as adding private clinic settings. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:09:17Another recent development on the research front was a recent publication in the Journal of Psychiatric Research showing that Deep TMS therapy, combined with psychedelic therapies, was significantly more effective in reducing depression levels among adult patients compared with standard medication alone. We believe this promising data supports additional research into the potential benefits of treating depression with a combination of Deep TMS and psychedelic therapies. Importantly, we continue to make progress in our randomized multi-center U.S. clinical trial, evaluating an accelerated treatment protocol for the Deep TMS system for MDD treatment as compared to the current standard-of-care Deep TMS protocol. As a reminder, the traditional Deep TMS protocol involves a four-week acute treatment phase with one session on each day of the treatment. This is now being compared to an accelerated protocol, which involves a significantly shorter acute phase taking place over several treatment days. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:10:33This has the potential to improve convenience and thereby make Deep TMS substantially more appealing to many prospective patients. Turning to alcohol use disorder, or AUD, we recently announced positive pilot data from a small independent third-party study conducted at Stanford University, evaluating an accelerated protocol using our Deep TMS technology to treat alcohol addiction patients, which was reported in a publication in the Brain Stimulation Journal. We believe these promising preliminary results will pave the way for further research into the potential benefit of treating AUD and other addictions with Deep TMS using an accelerated protocol. This critical investment in our long-term R&D and clinical vision is supported by a strong balance sheet with no debt. At December 31, 2024, we reported $69.4 million in cash. This includes approximately $20 million in gross proceeds received to date from our equity financing successfully completed with Valo Equity Partners. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:11:54This financing will be used to support the key action items I just discussed, which are aimed at expanding our commercial footprint and supporting broader access for patients to Deep TMS. Obviously, the most important aspect of our growth strategy centers around our innovative Deep TMS system and the large enterprise customers we are focused on servicing. As a growing segment of our customer base, these enterprise accounts have been a major driver behind the larger and repeat order for our Deep TMS systems over the past year. In addition, by elevating our customer base, we have seen new doors open to additional enterprise customers of the same size and caliber, if not larger. With the opportunity to achieve additional large and repeat orders from both new and existing enterprise customers, we see additional meaningful room to grow in the years to come. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:12:59In closing, our team is executing our strategy on several fronts. As a result, we now stand as the clear leader in TMS therapy, uniquely positioned to expand mental health access while delivering shareholder value through transformative therapies, innovation, operational excellence, and sustainable growth. With that, I will now turn the call over to Ido for his review of our fourth quarter and full year 2024 financial results. Ido. Ido MaromCFO at BrainsWay00:13:35Thank you, Hadar. Revenue for the fourth quarter of 2024 was $11.4 million, a 27% increase compared to the prior year period revenue of $9 million. We placed 75 net Deep TMS systems in the fourth quarter. Our total installed base was 1,353 systems as of December 31st, 2024, compared to 1,101 systems at the same point in the prior year. Ido MaromCFO at BrainsWay00:14:11As a result of our strong performance in the fourth quarter, we hit the top end of our guidance with $41 million of revenue recorded for the full year 2024. This represents a 29% increase compared to the $31.8 million reported for 2023. Gross profit for the fourth quarter of 2024 was $8.5 million, or a 75% gross margin. This is compared to $6.7 million during the prior year period at the same gross margin. Gross profit for the full year 2024 was $30.6 million, or a 75% gross margin. This is compared to $23.5 million, or a 74% gross margin during 2023. Moving on to operating expenses. For the fourth quarter of 2024, sales and marketing expenses were $4.5 million, compared to $4 million for the fourth quarter of 2023. For full year 2024, sales and marketing expenses were $16.2 million, compared to $16.5 million for 2023. Ido MaromCFO at BrainsWay00:15:30Research and development expenses were $2 million, compared to $1.4 million in the fourth quarter of 2023. R&D expenses for the full year 2024 were $7.2 million, compared to $6.7 million in 2023. General and administrative expenses for the fourth quarter of 2024 were $1.6 million, compared to $1.2 million for the fourth quarter of 2023. General and administrative expenses for the 12 months ended December 31, 2024, were $5.8 million, compared to $5.3 million for 2023. Operating profit for the fourth quarter was approximately $430,000, compared to approximately $180,000 for the same period in 2023. Operating profit for the full year 2024 was approximately $1.4 million, compared to an operating loss of $5 million for 2023. Adjusted EBITDA was $1.4 million, representing the sixth consecutive quarter of positive adjusted EBITDA, compared to approximately $750,000 for the fourth quarter of 2023. Ido MaromCFO at BrainsWay00:16:52For the full year 2024, we reported adjusted EBITDA of $4.5 million, which is also at the top end of our guidance, representing 11% of revenue. This is compared to an adjusted EBITDA loss of $2.4 million for 2023. For the fourth quarter ended December 31, 2024, we recorded net income of $1.5 million, including $1 million due to a positive impact from the valuation of warrants issued to Valo Equity Partners, compared to $127,000 in the same period of 2023. For full year 2024, we recorded net income of approximately $2.9 million, compared to a net loss of $4.2 million in 2023. We ended the year with cash, cash equivalents, and short-term deposits of $69.4 million on December 31, 2024, which includes the $20 million in gross proceeds received to date from the private equity investment by Valo Equity Partners announced this past September. Ido MaromCFO at BrainsWay00:18:08As Hadar mentioned earlier, based on our backlog and U.S. pipeline and continued momentum internationally, we expect revenue in the range of $49-$51 million for full year 2025, which represents 20%-24% growth over 2024 revenue. In addition, we anticipate reporting operating income of 3%-4% of revenue and adjusted EBITDA of 11%-12% for the full year 2025. This concludes our prepared remarks. I will now ask the operator to please open up the call for questions. Operator. Operator00:18:49We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press * then 1 on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press * then 2. Operator00:19:08At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question comes from Steven Lichtman with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead. Steven LichtmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co.00:19:21Good morning, Hadar and Ido, and congratulations on the quarter and year. The 75 placements were certainly a standout. Were there particular drivers this quarter that stood out that you'd like to highlight, whether it be enterprise network sales, international acceleration, sort of any fuller color on some of the drivers in the quarter? Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:19:48Yeah. Hi, Steven, and thank you for your question. As always, the fourth quarter is always the strongest quarter for the company. However, we do see some specific trends that I'm expecting to continue also in 2025. Obviously, the main driver is the enterprise accounts that are contributing significantly to our future sales. Very high demand is coming from those enterprise accounts. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:20:28The other two aspects of it are the increased use and demand for the OCD, which is also the H7 coils. We see a constant growing demand for this important indication. I also mentioned, I think the last thing that is important also to add is the increasing utilization in our devices, both from the need from MDD, anxious depression, and also treating elderly patients. All of those together managed to increase the demand in the fourth quarter. Steven LichtmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co.00:21:13Great. You mentioned progress on the accelerated treatment protocol. What's the latest in terms of timing there when we could see data? Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:21:26Yeah. We are on the final stage of the recruitment for this very, very important indication. Our intention is to finish the follow-up period, which is around 30 days, and then start analyzing the data and submit it to the FDA. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:21:53I do expect to come up with some news about this indication in the third quarter of 2025. Got it. And then just lastly, I'll jump back into you on margin in 2025. Can you talk to what you anticipate for gross margin this year? Thank you. Yeah. We do expect the gross margin to keep the gross margin on the same level as 2024, around 75%. I'm always saying there is more room for improvement on the gross margin, and we are taking the necessary step to try and improve it, but we are expecting the gross margin for 2025 to stay on the same level as 2024, around 75%, and also to keep the same profitability levels also on the bottom line and the EBITDA. Great. Steven LichtmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co.00:23:07Thanks, Hadar. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:23:07Thank you, Steven. Operator00:23:09Our next question comes from Jeffrey S. Cohen with Ladenburg Thalmann. Please go ahead. Jeffrey CohenManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Ladenburg Thalmann00:23:18Good morning, Hadar and Ido, and thank you for taking our questions. Just a couple on our end. I wonder if you could talk about the psychedelics at current centers and newly placed centers. Are you seeing that current centers have an increasing level of psychedelic therapy as far as percentage, and what are you seeing also with new placements as far as centers out there? Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:23:44Yeah. Thank you, Jeff. Good morning. What we are seeing is more and more psychedelic clinics are open and are looking to embed the Deep TMS technology in their facilities. The main reason for that is that they already got a designated room, they got the staff, and most of them are shooting for interventional psychiatry therapy. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:24:19Some of them want to try a combination of those two treatments, but there is definitely a big demand from those centers, from what I'm seeing in the market. What will be the impact going forward? I think it's hard to tell, but there is definitely a room for us to grow through this channel. I see all those centers potentially offering our Deep TMS technology going forward. Jeffrey CohenManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Ladenburg Thalmann00:24:56Okay. Got it. Could you talk about MDD a little bit? Are you seeing any changes on the treatment paradigm with the payers out there in the marketplace for MDD and also perhaps for OCD? I would say that the paradigm for MDD was very positive in the last few years. They reduced the number of failures that are eligible for treatment from four failures in the past to only one or two. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:25:37I do see some constant increase in some of the fees per procedure. I think that the paradigm has been positive, and I think it will stay positive as far as I see it because at the end of the day, this is a very effective treatment that is saving money for the payers. As for OCD, we also see a very steady and slow growth on the coverage by our payers. Today, we've got coverage for close to 100 people's lives in the U.S. We need to do some more work with continue and increase this also for the OCD because that's the only available effective treatment by TMS for those patients, and I'm expecting the payers to continue and embrace this technology and to cover it in the near future. Got it. Jeffrey CohenManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Ladenburg Thalmann00:26:42Lastly, for us, Hadar, could you talk about the 360 system and perhaps give us a sense of during 2025 what we may expect to hear about as far as any studies or indication or any regulatory pathways? Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:27:00Yeah. I think the most exciting thing for us on the clinical side with the next-gen, the Deep TMS 360, is to launch the multicenter trial in the U.S. with this specific 360 system. We believe it represents the future of the TMS segment. The first use with this device on a multicenter trial in the U.S. will be done through this multicenter trial that we plan to launch in the second half of 2025. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:27:49At the same time, we do aim also to use and to launch some feasibility studies with the Deep TMS 360 for Alzheimer's disease and Parkinson's because we believe that this groundbreaking technology could be benefit for these two indications, but we need to start to do some small feasibility studies with this technology. Jeffrey CohenManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Ladenburg Thalmann00:28:18Okay. And when you talk about a back half launch of a multicenter trial, are you referring to MDD specifically as the indication? Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:28:30No, I'm referring for the AUD clinical trial on the second half of 2025. Jeffrey CohenManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Ladenburg Thalmann00:28:39Got it. Okay. Perfect. Jeffrey CohenManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Ladenburg Thalmann00:28:43Thank you very much for taking our questions. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:28:46Thank you, Jeff. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:28:47Our next question comes from Carl Byrnes with Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Thanks for the question and congratulations on the quarter. Carl ByrnesEquity Research Analyst at Northland Capital Markets00:28:59I'm just wondering, given the cash build that you have, do you see any opportunities for complementary acquisitions or anything that might be in the business development space that we should be looking for potentially in the next 12 to 18 months or less? Thanks. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:29:16Yeah. Thank you, Carl, and good morning. Yes, we do have a very stable situation with our balance sheet, but I think that 2025 is going to be a pivotal year for the company. Mostly on the innovative side, we're going to do lots of interesting and compelling studies in 2025. We are also looking to continue and build our future and start planting all the right seeds for a long-term growth for the company, which means to continue and strengthen our relationship and partnership with growing and profitable enterprise accounts. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:30:16Our intention is to grow organically, but also looking for some interesting collaboration and partnership with growing mental health and potentially also addiction centers that can really increase our backlog for the long run. In terms of acquisition, we are not actively looking for an acquisition on the horizon. We are always looking on some interesting technologies that could be a completing technology to the Deep TMS system in the clinic, but we're also developing some new technologies that we believe could help us to bring new product to the market. Just to summarize, we are looking to invest this money back into expanded growth for the company and enhance our collaboration with growing enterprise account and continue to invest in the future of mental health and addiction arena. Carl ByrnesEquity Research Analyst at Northland Capital Markets00:31:33Great. Thank you. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:31:37Thank you, Carl. Operator00:31:41Again, if you have a question, please press star, then one. Operator00:31:45Our next question comes from Ram Selvaraju with HC Wainwright. Please go ahead. Ram SelvarajuManaging Director and Senior Healthcare Analyst at H.C. Wainwright00:31:51Thanks very much for taking my questions and congratulations on a very solid end to 2024. Firstly, I wanted to ask if you could comment on the current broader macroeconomic and geopolitical situation and if you expect any of this to pose any unaccustomed challenges or possible opportunities for BrainsWay as we look ahead to the rest of 2025, particularly as this pertains to pricing dynamics as well as uptake in emergent indications for the Deep TMS system. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:32:28Yeah. We do not see, as of today, any impact on the macroeconomic changes on customers. BrainsWay is a U.S.-based company. Most of our business is in the U.S., and most of our team is also based in the U.S. market. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:32:56However, we do see lots of positive tailwinds to our business, specifically around some of the new indications that we're about to bring to the market that relates to the mental health industry. I do believe that the accelerated Deep TMS protocol could really mitigate some of the trends that we're seeing in the market. I do think that the PTSD treatment that has been approved for reimbursement in Israel, and where currently there are some few publications from very favorable results that have been used by the VA in the U.S. might increase the interest also on the macroeconomics and we potentially may benefit from it at the end. For your question, the way that we see some of the macroeconomics, we've got lots of mitigation on the financial side and the way that we are partnering with our partners down the road. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:34:16We remain very positive at that front. Ram SelvarajuManaging Director and Senior Healthcare Analyst at H.C. Wainwright00:34:19Just as a follow-on to that question, I wanted to ask if you can confirm whether there has been, in fact, no impact to any governmental funding of exploratory work with the Deep TMS system. In particular, I recall that one of these initiatives was being supported by NIH funding. As we all have heard, there are cutbacks going on at NIH right now. Just wanted to confirm that this, in fact, does not affect any of the work that is being done with your system. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:34:53Yeah, that's a very good question. I'm not aware of any pushback. I think we made some kind of a publication of granting from the NIH for the specific study. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:35:09I would say, on the contrary, I think that the funding that we, I think, announced was related to the addiction side, which is a very, very compelling and important disease that I believe the government and also the public wants to see some progress. As of today, there were no restrictions for any kind of funding to some of our projects. Ram SelvarajuManaging Director and Senior Healthcare Analyst at H.C. Wainwright00:35:43Thank you very much. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:35:45Yep. Operator00:35:45We have concluded our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Hadar for any closing remarks. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:35:57I would like to thank all of the investors, analysts, and other participants for their interest in BrainsWay. With that, please enjoy the rest of your day. Thank you. Operator00:36:07The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsAnalystsBrian RitchieHead of Investor Relations at LifeSci AdvisorsJeffrey CohenManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Ladenburg ThalmannSteven LichtmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co.Ram SelvarajuManaging Director and Senior Healthcare Analyst at H.C. 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Publicly traded on the NASDAQ under the symbol BWAY, the company develops and commercializes deep transcranial magnetic stimulation (Deep TMS) systems designed to treat a range of neuropsychiatric and neurological disorders. Brainsway’s technology aims to offer an alternative or complement to traditional pharmacological therapies by targeting precise brain regions with its patented coil designs. The company’s flagship Deep TMS platform utilizes proprietary H-coil arrays engineered to reach deeper cortical structures than conventional TMS devices. Brainsway has secured regulatory clearances in key markets, including U.S. Food and Drug Administration approvals for treatment-resistant major depressive disorder, obsessive-compulsive disorder, and smoking cessation. In addition to cleared indications, the company is pursuing clinical studies in areas such as migraine and substance use disorders to expand its therapeutic portfolio. Founded in 2003 and headquartered in Jerusalem, Israel, Brainsway operates through subsidiaries and distribution partners across North America, Europe and the Asia-Pacific region. The company maintains a sales and support presence in the United States, including a facility in North Carolina, and collaborates with academic medical centers and independent clinics to facilitate training, research and patient access. Brainsway’s leadership team brings together experts in neuroscience, clinical medicine and medical technology commercialization. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the BrainsWay fourth quarter and full year 2024 earnings conference call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Brian Ritchie of LifeSci Advisors. Please go ahead. Brian RitchieHead of Investor Relations at LifeSci Advisors00:00:40Thank you all, and welcome to BrainsWay's fourth quarter and full year 2024 earnings conference call. With us today are BrainsWay's Chief Executive Officer, Hadar Levy, and Chief Financial Officer, Ido Marom. The format for today's call will be a discussion of recent trends and business updates from Hadar, followed by a detailed discussion of the financials. We will open up the call for your questions. Earlier today, BrainsWay released financial results for the three months and full year ended December 31, 2024. A copy of the press release is available on the company's investor relations website. Brian RitchieHead of Investor Relations at LifeSci Advisors00:01:23Before I turn the call over to Hadar, I would like to remind you that this conference call, including both management's prepared remarks and the question-and-answer session, may contain projections or other forward-looking statements regarding, among other topics, BrainsWay's anticipated future operating and financial performance, business plans and prospects, and expectations for its products and pipeline, which are all subject to risks and uncertainties, including shifting market conditions resulting from geopolitical, supply chain, and other factors, as well as the use of non-GAAP financial information. Additional information regarding these and other risks is available in the company's earnings release and in its other filings with the SEC, including the risk factor section contained in BrainsWay's Form 20-F. I would now like to turn the call over to Hadar. Please go ahead, Hadar. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:02:24Thank you, Brian. Welcome, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. We are excited to announce today that we completed 2024 with another quarter of rapidly growing sales of our market-leading Deep TMS system. This steady rise in our performance reflects the successful execution of our strategy focused on building sales momentum and scale of our commercial distribution around the world. As you will see, these results further reinforce BrainsWay's true business and technological leadership position in the TMS field. On the top line, we generated $11.4 million in revenue, marking a 27% year-over-year increase. Our multi-year agreement with large enterprise networks strengthened customer partnerships beyond one-time sales, ensuring alignment with their evolving needs. Additionally, our lease-based business model option continues to expand our recurring revenue base, providing a more stable foundation for long-term growth. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:03:37In the fourth quarter of 2024, we shipped a total of 75 Deep TMS systems, representing a 25% increase compared with the same period last year. I think it is worth noting that, combined with our growing backlog and record revenues, we have established a positive book-to-bill ratio over the past several quarters. This underscores the exceptional execution of our commercial team as we continue to partner with larger enterprise customers, those that have consistently delivered the highest return on our sales and marketing investment. We have significantly expanded our market presence, making Deep TMS accessible to more customers than ever before. To support this growth, we optimized our sales force to accelerate expansion within larger institutional and enterprise accounts in the U.S. and internationally. Our global reach now extends across key markets, including Canada, Asia, India, and Europe. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:04:46As we successfully transition into this new phase of growth, we are driving increased profitability, further setting us apart in our industry. This is reflected in our strong gross margin, which was 75% in the fourth quarter and for the full year. We generated positive quarterly net income for the fifth consecutive quarter and positive adjusted EBITDA and cash flow from operation for the sixth consecutive quarter. Looking ahead, we are introducing full year 2025 revenue in the range of $49 million-$51 million. This would represent a growth of 20%-24% over 2024. We also anticipate generating operating income of 3%-4% and adjusted EBITDA of 11%-12% for the full year 2025. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:05:45We aim to further solidify our market leadership by leveraging our strong sales momentum and executing key strategic investment across three core areas: advancing our next-generation Deep TMS 360 system, conducting clinical trials to expand and enhance treatment capabilities, and strengthening our commercial presence through targeted sales and marketing initiatives. Our primary objectives are to drive market awareness, execute on our R&D roadmap, and expand access to Deep TMS. We believe that these are critical as we work to further cement our role in shaping the future of mental health treatment. On the commercial front, we expect to see increased sales around OCD in 2025, as our system is the first TMS therapy approved for obsessive-compulsive disorder. OCD is a difficult-to-treat disease with limited treatment options, with a substantial potential market of roughly 400,000 patients annually who are resistant to current treatment options. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:06:59As a reminder, our most recent data for this indication are very positive, with over 60% of patients responding to Deep TMS treatment. Turning to depression, doctors have been reporting an increase in anxious depression Deep TMS treatment in the U.S. As a reminder, this refers to the patient with major depressive disorder who also exhibit comorbid and anxiety symptoms. This is a large addressable medical need that affects approximately 10-16 million adults in the U.S. each year. As a reminder, our system was the first TMS device cleared by the FDA to effectively treat this condition. We have also seen an increase in utilization of Deep TMS to treat elderly patients with MDD in the second half of 2024. This traction in the market follows the U.S. FDA's groundbreaking decision to raise the upper age limit from 68 to 86 years old for the indication in June 2024. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:08:08As life expectancies continue to rise, many are looking for innovative therapeutic solutions to alleviate the significant burden this condition places on our aging population. This clearance made our system the first and only TMS device approved to treat elderly patients with MDD. We are also working on collecting data on Deep TMS for potential treatment for adolescent depression patients, and we'll update you all to the extent we make progress on this front as well. In September, we announced that the Israeli Ministry of Defense Rehabilitation Department granted approval for the reimbursement of Deep TMS therapy for qualifying patients at Israeli public hospitals with post-traumatic stress disorder, or PTSD. We will continue working to expand the available reimbursement for PTSD in Israel, with the goal of potentially including more Israeli medical centers, as well as adding private clinic settings. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:09:17Another recent development on the research front was a recent publication in the Journal of Psychiatric Research showing that Deep TMS therapy, combined with psychedelic therapies, was significantly more effective in reducing depression levels among adult patients compared with standard medication alone. We believe this promising data supports additional research into the potential benefits of treating depression with a combination of Deep TMS and psychedelic therapies. Importantly, we continue to make progress in our randomized multi-center U.S. clinical trial, evaluating an accelerated treatment protocol for the Deep TMS system for MDD treatment as compared to the current standard-of-care Deep TMS protocol. As a reminder, the traditional Deep TMS protocol involves a four-week acute treatment phase with one session on each day of the treatment. This is now being compared to an accelerated protocol, which involves a significantly shorter acute phase taking place over several treatment days. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:10:33This has the potential to improve convenience and thereby make Deep TMS substantially more appealing to many prospective patients. Turning to alcohol use disorder, or AUD, we recently announced positive pilot data from a small independent third-party study conducted at Stanford University, evaluating an accelerated protocol using our Deep TMS technology to treat alcohol addiction patients, which was reported in a publication in the Brain Stimulation Journal. We believe these promising preliminary results will pave the way for further research into the potential benefit of treating AUD and other addictions with Deep TMS using an accelerated protocol. This critical investment in our long-term R&D and clinical vision is supported by a strong balance sheet with no debt. At December 31, 2024, we reported $69.4 million in cash. This includes approximately $20 million in gross proceeds received to date from our equity financing successfully completed with Valo Equity Partners. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:11:54This financing will be used to support the key action items I just discussed, which are aimed at expanding our commercial footprint and supporting broader access for patients to Deep TMS. Obviously, the most important aspect of our growth strategy centers around our innovative Deep TMS system and the large enterprise customers we are focused on servicing. As a growing segment of our customer base, these enterprise accounts have been a major driver behind the larger and repeat order for our Deep TMS systems over the past year. In addition, by elevating our customer base, we have seen new doors open to additional enterprise customers of the same size and caliber, if not larger. With the opportunity to achieve additional large and repeat orders from both new and existing enterprise customers, we see additional meaningful room to grow in the years to come. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:12:59In closing, our team is executing our strategy on several fronts. As a result, we now stand as the clear leader in TMS therapy, uniquely positioned to expand mental health access while delivering shareholder value through transformative therapies, innovation, operational excellence, and sustainable growth. With that, I will now turn the call over to Ido for his review of our fourth quarter and full year 2024 financial results. Ido. Ido MaromCFO at BrainsWay00:13:35Thank you, Hadar. Revenue for the fourth quarter of 2024 was $11.4 million, a 27% increase compared to the prior year period revenue of $9 million. We placed 75 net Deep TMS systems in the fourth quarter. Our total installed base was 1,353 systems as of December 31st, 2024, compared to 1,101 systems at the same point in the prior year. Ido MaromCFO at BrainsWay00:14:11As a result of our strong performance in the fourth quarter, we hit the top end of our guidance with $41 million of revenue recorded for the full year 2024. This represents a 29% increase compared to the $31.8 million reported for 2023. Gross profit for the fourth quarter of 2024 was $8.5 million, or a 75% gross margin. This is compared to $6.7 million during the prior year period at the same gross margin. Gross profit for the full year 2024 was $30.6 million, or a 75% gross margin. This is compared to $23.5 million, or a 74% gross margin during 2023. Moving on to operating expenses. For the fourth quarter of 2024, sales and marketing expenses were $4.5 million, compared to $4 million for the fourth quarter of 2023. For full year 2024, sales and marketing expenses were $16.2 million, compared to $16.5 million for 2023. Ido MaromCFO at BrainsWay00:15:30Research and development expenses were $2 million, compared to $1.4 million in the fourth quarter of 2023. R&D expenses for the full year 2024 were $7.2 million, compared to $6.7 million in 2023. General and administrative expenses for the fourth quarter of 2024 were $1.6 million, compared to $1.2 million for the fourth quarter of 2023. General and administrative expenses for the 12 months ended December 31, 2024, were $5.8 million, compared to $5.3 million for 2023. Operating profit for the fourth quarter was approximately $430,000, compared to approximately $180,000 for the same period in 2023. Operating profit for the full year 2024 was approximately $1.4 million, compared to an operating loss of $5 million for 2023. Adjusted EBITDA was $1.4 million, representing the sixth consecutive quarter of positive adjusted EBITDA, compared to approximately $750,000 for the fourth quarter of 2023. Ido MaromCFO at BrainsWay00:16:52For the full year 2024, we reported adjusted EBITDA of $4.5 million, which is also at the top end of our guidance, representing 11% of revenue. This is compared to an adjusted EBITDA loss of $2.4 million for 2023. For the fourth quarter ended December 31, 2024, we recorded net income of $1.5 million, including $1 million due to a positive impact from the valuation of warrants issued to Valo Equity Partners, compared to $127,000 in the same period of 2023. For full year 2024, we recorded net income of approximately $2.9 million, compared to a net loss of $4.2 million in 2023. We ended the year with cash, cash equivalents, and short-term deposits of $69.4 million on December 31, 2024, which includes the $20 million in gross proceeds received to date from the private equity investment by Valo Equity Partners announced this past September. Ido MaromCFO at BrainsWay00:18:08As Hadar mentioned earlier, based on our backlog and U.S. pipeline and continued momentum internationally, we expect revenue in the range of $49-$51 million for full year 2025, which represents 20%-24% growth over 2024 revenue. In addition, we anticipate reporting operating income of 3%-4% of revenue and adjusted EBITDA of 11%-12% for the full year 2025. This concludes our prepared remarks. I will now ask the operator to please open up the call for questions. Operator. Operator00:18:49We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press * then 1 on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press * then 2. Operator00:19:08At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question comes from Steven Lichtman with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead. Steven LichtmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co.00:19:21Good morning, Hadar and Ido, and congratulations on the quarter and year. The 75 placements were certainly a standout. Were there particular drivers this quarter that stood out that you'd like to highlight, whether it be enterprise network sales, international acceleration, sort of any fuller color on some of the drivers in the quarter? Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:19:48Yeah. Hi, Steven, and thank you for your question. As always, the fourth quarter is always the strongest quarter for the company. However, we do see some specific trends that I'm expecting to continue also in 2025. Obviously, the main driver is the enterprise accounts that are contributing significantly to our future sales. Very high demand is coming from those enterprise accounts. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:20:28The other two aspects of it are the increased use and demand for the OCD, which is also the H7 coils. We see a constant growing demand for this important indication. I also mentioned, I think the last thing that is important also to add is the increasing utilization in our devices, both from the need from MDD, anxious depression, and also treating elderly patients. All of those together managed to increase the demand in the fourth quarter. Steven LichtmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co.00:21:13Great. You mentioned progress on the accelerated treatment protocol. What's the latest in terms of timing there when we could see data? Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:21:26Yeah. We are on the final stage of the recruitment for this very, very important indication. Our intention is to finish the follow-up period, which is around 30 days, and then start analyzing the data and submit it to the FDA. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:21:53I do expect to come up with some news about this indication in the third quarter of 2025. Got it. And then just lastly, I'll jump back into you on margin in 2025. Can you talk to what you anticipate for gross margin this year? Thank you. Yeah. We do expect the gross margin to keep the gross margin on the same level as 2024, around 75%. I'm always saying there is more room for improvement on the gross margin, and we are taking the necessary step to try and improve it, but we are expecting the gross margin for 2025 to stay on the same level as 2024, around 75%, and also to keep the same profitability levels also on the bottom line and the EBITDA. Great. Steven LichtmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co.00:23:07Thanks, Hadar. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:23:07Thank you, Steven. Operator00:23:09Our next question comes from Jeffrey S. Cohen with Ladenburg Thalmann. Please go ahead. Jeffrey CohenManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Ladenburg Thalmann00:23:18Good morning, Hadar and Ido, and thank you for taking our questions. Just a couple on our end. I wonder if you could talk about the psychedelics at current centers and newly placed centers. Are you seeing that current centers have an increasing level of psychedelic therapy as far as percentage, and what are you seeing also with new placements as far as centers out there? Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:23:44Yeah. Thank you, Jeff. Good morning. What we are seeing is more and more psychedelic clinics are open and are looking to embed the Deep TMS technology in their facilities. The main reason for that is that they already got a designated room, they got the staff, and most of them are shooting for interventional psychiatry therapy. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:24:19Some of them want to try a combination of those two treatments, but there is definitely a big demand from those centers, from what I'm seeing in the market. What will be the impact going forward? I think it's hard to tell, but there is definitely a room for us to grow through this channel. I see all those centers potentially offering our Deep TMS technology going forward. Jeffrey CohenManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Ladenburg Thalmann00:24:56Okay. Got it. Could you talk about MDD a little bit? Are you seeing any changes on the treatment paradigm with the payers out there in the marketplace for MDD and also perhaps for OCD? I would say that the paradigm for MDD was very positive in the last few years. They reduced the number of failures that are eligible for treatment from four failures in the past to only one or two. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:25:37I do see some constant increase in some of the fees per procedure. I think that the paradigm has been positive, and I think it will stay positive as far as I see it because at the end of the day, this is a very effective treatment that is saving money for the payers. As for OCD, we also see a very steady and slow growth on the coverage by our payers. Today, we've got coverage for close to 100 people's lives in the U.S. We need to do some more work with continue and increase this also for the OCD because that's the only available effective treatment by TMS for those patients, and I'm expecting the payers to continue and embrace this technology and to cover it in the near future. Got it. Jeffrey CohenManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Ladenburg Thalmann00:26:42Lastly, for us, Hadar, could you talk about the 360 system and perhaps give us a sense of during 2025 what we may expect to hear about as far as any studies or indication or any regulatory pathways? Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:27:00Yeah. I think the most exciting thing for us on the clinical side with the next-gen, the Deep TMS 360, is to launch the multicenter trial in the U.S. with this specific 360 system. We believe it represents the future of the TMS segment. The first use with this device on a multicenter trial in the U.S. will be done through this multicenter trial that we plan to launch in the second half of 2025. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:27:49At the same time, we do aim also to use and to launch some feasibility studies with the Deep TMS 360 for Alzheimer's disease and Parkinson's because we believe that this groundbreaking technology could be benefit for these two indications, but we need to start to do some small feasibility studies with this technology. Jeffrey CohenManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Ladenburg Thalmann00:28:18Okay. And when you talk about a back half launch of a multicenter trial, are you referring to MDD specifically as the indication? Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:28:30No, I'm referring for the AUD clinical trial on the second half of 2025. Jeffrey CohenManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Ladenburg Thalmann00:28:39Got it. Okay. Perfect. Jeffrey CohenManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Ladenburg Thalmann00:28:43Thank you very much for taking our questions. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:28:46Thank you, Jeff. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:28:47Our next question comes from Carl Byrnes with Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Thanks for the question and congratulations on the quarter. Carl ByrnesEquity Research Analyst at Northland Capital Markets00:28:59I'm just wondering, given the cash build that you have, do you see any opportunities for complementary acquisitions or anything that might be in the business development space that we should be looking for potentially in the next 12 to 18 months or less? Thanks. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:29:16Yeah. Thank you, Carl, and good morning. Yes, we do have a very stable situation with our balance sheet, but I think that 2025 is going to be a pivotal year for the company. Mostly on the innovative side, we're going to do lots of interesting and compelling studies in 2025. We are also looking to continue and build our future and start planting all the right seeds for a long-term growth for the company, which means to continue and strengthen our relationship and partnership with growing and profitable enterprise accounts. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:30:16Our intention is to grow organically, but also looking for some interesting collaboration and partnership with growing mental health and potentially also addiction centers that can really increase our backlog for the long run. In terms of acquisition, we are not actively looking for an acquisition on the horizon. We are always looking on some interesting technologies that could be a completing technology to the Deep TMS system in the clinic, but we're also developing some new technologies that we believe could help us to bring new product to the market. Just to summarize, we are looking to invest this money back into expanded growth for the company and enhance our collaboration with growing enterprise account and continue to invest in the future of mental health and addiction arena. Carl ByrnesEquity Research Analyst at Northland Capital Markets00:31:33Great. Thank you. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:31:37Thank you, Carl. Operator00:31:41Again, if you have a question, please press star, then one. Operator00:31:45Our next question comes from Ram Selvaraju with HC Wainwright. Please go ahead. Ram SelvarajuManaging Director and Senior Healthcare Analyst at H.C. Wainwright00:31:51Thanks very much for taking my questions and congratulations on a very solid end to 2024. Firstly, I wanted to ask if you could comment on the current broader macroeconomic and geopolitical situation and if you expect any of this to pose any unaccustomed challenges or possible opportunities for BrainsWay as we look ahead to the rest of 2025, particularly as this pertains to pricing dynamics as well as uptake in emergent indications for the Deep TMS system. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:32:28Yeah. We do not see, as of today, any impact on the macroeconomic changes on customers. BrainsWay is a U.S.-based company. Most of our business is in the U.S., and most of our team is also based in the U.S. market. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:32:56However, we do see lots of positive tailwinds to our business, specifically around some of the new indications that we're about to bring to the market that relates to the mental health industry. I do believe that the accelerated Deep TMS protocol could really mitigate some of the trends that we're seeing in the market. I do think that the PTSD treatment that has been approved for reimbursement in Israel, and where currently there are some few publications from very favorable results that have been used by the VA in the U.S. might increase the interest also on the macroeconomics and we potentially may benefit from it at the end. For your question, the way that we see some of the macroeconomics, we've got lots of mitigation on the financial side and the way that we are partnering with our partners down the road. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:34:16We remain very positive at that front. Ram SelvarajuManaging Director and Senior Healthcare Analyst at H.C. Wainwright00:34:19Just as a follow-on to that question, I wanted to ask if you can confirm whether there has been, in fact, no impact to any governmental funding of exploratory work with the Deep TMS system. In particular, I recall that one of these initiatives was being supported by NIH funding. As we all have heard, there are cutbacks going on at NIH right now. Just wanted to confirm that this, in fact, does not affect any of the work that is being done with your system. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:34:53Yeah, that's a very good question. I'm not aware of any pushback. I think we made some kind of a publication of granting from the NIH for the specific study. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:35:09I would say, on the contrary, I think that the funding that we, I think, announced was related to the addiction side, which is a very, very compelling and important disease that I believe the government and also the public wants to see some progress. As of today, there were no restrictions for any kind of funding to some of our projects. Ram SelvarajuManaging Director and Senior Healthcare Analyst at H.C. Wainwright00:35:43Thank you very much. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:35:45Yep. Operator00:35:45We have concluded our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Hadar for any closing remarks. Hadar LevyCEO at BrainsWay00:35:57I would like to thank all of the investors, analysts, and other participants for their interest in BrainsWay. With that, please enjoy the rest of your day. Thank you. Operator00:36:07The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsAnalystsBrian RitchieHead of Investor Relations at LifeSci AdvisorsJeffrey CohenManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Ladenburg ThalmannSteven LichtmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co.Ram SelvarajuManaging Director and Senior Healthcare Analyst at H.C. WainwrightHadar LevyCEO at BrainsWayIdo MaromCFO at BrainsWayCarl ByrnesEquity Research Analyst at Northland Capital MarketsPowered by