NASDAQ:GUTS Fractyl Health Q4 2024 Earnings Report $0.69 -0.03 (-4.57%) Closing price 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$0.69 0.00 (-0.42%) As of 07:59 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Fractyl Health EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.52Consensus EPS -$0.44Beat/MissMissed by -$0.08One Year Ago EPSN/AFractyl Health Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AFractyl Health Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2024Date3/3/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateMonday, March 3, 2025Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsFractyl Health's Q1 2026 earnings is estimated for Tuesday, May 12, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2026 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Fractyl Health Q4 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMarch 3, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Fractal highlighted a significant unmet need in obesity care as nearly 65% of GLP-1 patients discontinue therapy within one year and experience rapid weight regain, positioning its RAVITA duodenal procedure and RORJUVA gene therapy as potential long-term solutions. In 2024 the company achieved several major milestones including its Nasdaq IPO under ticker GUTS, FDA IDE approval and breakthrough device designation for RAVITA, initiation of the REMAIN-ONE pivotal study and preclinical nominations for the RORJUVA platform. 2025 is expected to be a breakout year with key catalysts like the REVEAL-ONE open-label weight maintenance data due end of Q1, a mid-point analysis of REMAIN-ONE at end of Q2, full enrollment in summer and the first CTA submission for RORJUVA001 in type 2 diabetes. Early REVEAL-ONE results from an open-label cohort showed a patient maintained over 15% total body weight loss one month after RAVITA and GLP-1 discontinuation, compared to typical 3% weight regain reported in prior tirzepatide withdrawal studies. On the financial side Q4 R&D expenses rose to $20.3 million and SG&A to $4.9 million, resulting in a net loss of $25 million, while cash and equivalents of $67.5 million provide a runway into 2026. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallFractyl Health Q4 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, and welcome to Fractyl Health's Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2024 Financial Results and Business Updates Call. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. There will be a question-and-answer session following management's prepared remarks. I will now turn the call over to Brian Luque, Head of Investor Relations and Corporate Development at Fractyl. Brian, you may now begin. Brian LuqueHead of Investor Relations and Corporate Development at Fractyl Health00:00:32Thank you. This afternoon, we issued a press release that outlines the topics we plan to discuss today. This release is available at www.fractyl.com under the investors tab. Joining us on the call today are Dr. Harith Rajagopalan, Chief Executive Officer, and Lisa Davidson, Chief Financial Officer. During this call, we make forward-looking statements which involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from our forward-looking statements. We provide a comprehensive list of risk factors in our SEC filings, including the annual report on Form 10-K filed today, which I encourage you to review. Any forward-looking statements on the call are subject to substantial risks and uncertainties, speak only as of the call's original date, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise any of the statements, even if subsequent events cause the company's views to change. Brian LuqueHead of Investor Relations and Corporate Development at Fractyl Health00:01:26It is now my pleasure to pass the call over to Harith. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:01:30Thank you, Brian, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. GLP-1 drugs have undoubtedly transformed people's ability to achieve short-term weight loss. However, real-world data reveal the significant unmet need in obesity that remains. Nearly 65% of patients discontinue these treatments within the first year, with many experiencing rapid weight regain thereafter. According to a recent study in JAMA, only a minority of individuals who stop taking GLP-1 drugs reinitiate therapy within one year. While these drugs deliver initial success, long-term weight maintenance remains elusive for too many people caught in an unending pattern of loss and regain. Even as more drug options become available, it is becoming clear that non-drug options will play a crucial role in long-term weight maintenance. This is the single largest gap in obesity care today. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:02:29Fractyl is pioneering the first potentially durable solution to address the weight maintenance crisis, not just managing symptoms, but tackling the root cause of obesity in the duodenum with Revita and developing a potentially one-and-done Smart GLP-1 gene therapy with Rejuva. The unmet need is clear, and we are driving as rapidly as possible to deliver important data sets to demonstrate the potential of our solutions to address this need. Today, I'll take you through the defining milestones of 2024 and why we believe 2025 marks a pivotal step forward for Fractyl as we are laser-focused on our efforts to deliver long-term metabolic health solutions to patients who need them. We made tremendous strides across clinical, regulatory, and financial milestones in 2024. We completed our IPO, debuting on the Nasdaq under the [ticker] symbol GUTS, strengthening our financial position. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:03:28Secured FDA IDE approval for a pivotal study of Revita's role in weight maintenance following GLP-1 drug discontinuation, setting the stage for a major value inflection point as we generate the industry's first-ever randomized data in weight maintenance, a completely untapped market. Earned FDA Breakthrough Device Designation for Revita in weight maintenance after discontinuation of GLP-1-based therapy. Initiated the REMAIN-1 pivotal study with an overwhelmingly positive response from both patients and physicians, reinforcing the urgent demand for an off-ramp to GLP-1 drugs. Advanced our Rejuva gene therapy platform, nominating RJVA-001 as a first Smart GLP-1 type 2 diabetes candidate and RJVA-002 as a smart GIP/GLP-1 candidate for obesity. Received industry recognition with Rejuva's preclinical data being named a top abstract at ADA's 84th Scientific Sessions for a head-to-head study that showed Rejuva prevented weight and glycemic rebound after semaglutide withdrawal. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:04:36We completed key in vivo studies to support a clinical trial application for RJVA-001, laying the foundation for the next steps in this important program. Turning to 2025, we expect this to be a breakout year for Fractyl, our first pivotal data readout, our first regulatory filings for our gene therapy platform, and our clear path to market leadership in obesity and metabolic health. We have two distinct but highly de-risked event paths, one for Revita in weight maintenance and the other for RJVA-001's path to first-in-human data in type 2 diabetes. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:05:11We expect to achieve key clinical milestones from the REMAIN-1 study in 2025, starting with open-label data from the REVEAL-1 cohort expected at the end of Q1, a midpoint analysis anticipated at the end of Q2, and full study enrollment expected in the summer, each milestone driving us closer to breakthrough advancements in weight maintenance. We also plan to submit the first CTA module for RJVA-001 in type 2 diabetes to regulators in the first half of 2025, and if our CTA is authorized, we expect to report preliminary data in 2026. Now, let's dive deeper into the progress we've made and what's on the horizon. In January, we made the strategic decision to focus our Revita program exclusively on weight maintenance post-GLP-1 withdrawal, prioritizing the REMAIN-1 pivotal study. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:06:05This decision was driven by promising early insights from REVEAL-1 and overwhelming demand from both patients and physicians to participate in the REMAIN-1 pivotal study. In just six months, over 189 patients have enrolled across 13 clinical sites, reinforcing the urgent need for an effective off-ramp from GLP-1 therapy. In January, we also shared initial results from the first patient treated in the REVEAL-1 open-label cohort. This patient lost more than 15% of their total body weight on a GLP-1 drug and, after discontinuing per-study protocol, underwent the Revita procedure. One month post-procedure, the patient successfully maintained their weight loss during the holiday season, a notoriously challenging time for weight management. For context, prior studies of tirzepatide withdrawal show an average 3% weight regain within four weeks of GLP-1 discontinuation. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:07:04These early findings suggest Revita may provide a path forward for patients transitioning off GLP-1s, and we look forward to sharing additional patient data later this month. The financial pressures on current GLP-1 treatments are becoming impossible to ignore. With over 70% of U.S. adults affected by obesity driving an estimated $170 billion in annual medical costs, payers are reassessing their coverage. For example, West Virginia's Public Employees Insurance Agency recently discontinued GLP-1 coverage, citing unsustainable monthly costs, and insurers in states like North Carolina and Colorado are following suit, amplifying the need for sustainable long-term solutions. There is an interesting emergent dynamic in that obesity has become a health equity concern for public payers, and yet they are struggling to justify ongoing coverage of drugs that clearly work, but where their own real-world evidence shows that adherence is a significant issue. Dr. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:08:07Shailendra Singh, Director of Bariatric Endoscopy at West Virginia University Medicine and a PI in our REVEAL-1 study, has observed that patients who have achieved weight loss with GLP-1s are now beginning to ask, "What's next?" He shared with me, "I'm excited to provide solutions for patients who otherwise have none. There is incredible interest in joining the study and in the prospect of long-term durable weight maintenance solutions." Shifting focus to the REMAIN-1 randomized pivotal study, this groundbreaking double-blind trial is designed to evaluate the efficacy of our Revita procedure in sustaining weight loss after discontinuation of GLP-1 drugs. As the first study of its kind, REMAIN-1 places Fractyl at the cutting edge of innovation in long-term weight maintenance solutions. Let's frame what is a reasonable expectation for a clinically meaningful weight maintenance solution. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:09:05The FDA has specified that weight maintenance is defined as the achievement and maintenance of clinically meaningful weight loss for one year after the discontinuation of ongoing therapy. In their SURMOUNT-4 study of tirzepatide withdrawal, Eli Lilly reported that only about 16% of study participants maintained at least 80% of the weight they had lost while on the drug one year afterward. We believe that a weight maintenance therapy should, at a minimum, retain at least 50% of their weight loss at one year. A home run would be for a majority of patients to retain at least 80% of the weight they had lost at one year. Given the magnitude of the unmet need, we believe this range of outcomes would be a tremendous victory for patients who need to maintain their hard-won weight loss. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:09:58Despite the development of a variety of products for obesity, ranging from peptides to small molecules to siRNA approaches, we are unaware of any other products in development that have the potential to sustain metabolic benefits for more than one year after drug discontinuation, like the ones we are developing at Fractyl. The German Real-World Registry study in patients with type 2 diabetes has given us valuable data that validates our confidence in Revita as a potential solution. We have seen impressive clinical results in the first tranche of 17 patients who have achieved one year of follow-up. Despite the fact that these individuals represent a hard-to-treat patient segment, at 12 months post-Revita procedure, mean weight was reduced by more than 7 kg within one month and then sustained for one year thereafter. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:10:48At 12 months post-procedure, 94% of participants reported they would undergo Revita again, and 100% would recommend the procedure to a family member or friend. To date, no device or procedure-related serious adverse events have been reported. Think about what this means. In a hard-to-treat patient population, they undergo a procedure, and one year later, they are living their lives at a lower weight sustainably. We believe this is a very powerful clinical profile for weight maintenance therapy in a real-world setting. Looking beyond data and with an eye towards commercialization, we plan to leverage our relationships with GI endoscopists who specialize in bariatric and metabolic endoscopy to build a scalable and efficient commercial model. These physicians have a built-in patient base actively seeking sustainable weight management solutions and a strong referral network from primary care providers. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:11:47The integration of Revita into these existing workflows, where millions of endoscopic procedures are already performed annually for patients with obesity, creates a clear, high-volume opportunity for broad adoption. Unlike traditional drug-based approaches, Revita represents a durable procedure-based intervention designed to fit seamlessly into the standard of care for patients transitioning off GLP-1 therapy. We look forward to continuing to build out this targeted commercial model and discussing our path forward in future quarters. Now let's talk about Rejuva, our next-generation approach to metabolic disease. Unlike traditional GLP-1s that bombard your system with high drug levels, our Smart GLP-1 candidates are designed for physiologically regulated expression: more GLP-1 when you need it, where you need it, and how much you need. We believe this is the next generation of incretin therapy. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:12:47Moreover, the anticipated low viral doses can enable a low cost of goods and a new pricing model for gene therapies because a patient population at risk is so large. This is a new commercial model for gene therapies and one that we believe can overcome the challenges of commercializing gene therapies to date. At the end of last year, at the World Congress for Insulin Resistance, we presented key preclinical data demonstrating the successful targeted delivery of RJVA-001, our Smart GLP-1 pancreatic gene therapy in large animal models. Using our proprietary endoscopic ultrasound-guided system, we achieved safe and precise pancreatic delivery in Yucatan pigs at a low total viral dose, closely mirroring our planned first-in-human studies. Results showed therapeutically relevant GLP-1 expression within pancreatic beta cells with no adverse safety effects, reinforcing RJVA-001's potential as a breakthrough approach for type 2 diabetes. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:13:53We recently met again with German regulators and achieved alignment on a patient population and study design for the RJVA-001 first-in-human study. Our primary focus will be to evaluate its safety and tolerability, and the study is also designed to provide an early indication of potential efficacy to help determine the optimal dose for a future phase three study. We plan to investigate 001 in a patient population with uncontrolled type 2 diabetes who are on a GLP-1 drug and between one to three other non-insulin glucose-lowering agents. We're very encouraged by the positive dialogue with German regulators and the favorable feedback we have received thus far on our preclinical program and data and our upcoming CTA filing. With this critical validation and alignment in place, we are on track to submit this first CTA module to regulators in the first half of 2025. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:14:50If our CTA is authorized, expect to report preliminary data in 2026. We hope to show how a Smart GLP-1 can reshape the treatment paradigm in metabolic disease and bend the curve toward remission of obesity and type 2 diabetes. With that, I will now turn the call to Lisa to provide an update on our fourth quarter and full-year financials. Lisa? Lisa DavidsonCFO at Fractyl Health00:15:15Thank you, Harith. In the fourth quarter of 2024, revenue was generated from our commercial pilot in Germany and enabled patients to enroll in the German Real-World Registry study. Turning to operating expenses, research and development expense in the fourth quarter of 2024 was $20.3 million, compared to $10.1 million for the same period in 2023. Lisa DavidsonCFO at Fractyl Health00:15:41The increase during the quarter was primarily due to the progress made in our REMAIN-1 clinical study, the REVITALIZE-1 clinical study, continued development of the Rejuva platform, and increased personnel-related expenses, including stock-based compensation. Selling, general, and administrative expense in the fourth quarter of 2024 was $4.9 million, compared to $2.8 million in the same period in 2023. The increase during the quarter was primarily due to the increased cost associated with operating as a publicly traded company and increased personnel-related expenses, including stock-based compensation. For the fourth quarter of 2024, we reported a net loss of $25 million, compared to a net loss of $19.2 million for the same period in 2023. Lisa DavidsonCFO at Fractyl Health00:16:32The increase in net loss was primarily attributed to the increase in operating expenses discussed above, partially offset by the non-cash gain from changes in fair value of warrant liabilities, as well as an increase in net interest income. As of December 31st, 2024, Fractyl had approximately $67.5 million in cash and cash equivalents. Based on our current development plans, we believe that our existing cash and cash equivalents will be sufficient to fund our operations through key anticipated company clinical milestones into 2026. I will now turn the call back to Harith. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:17:10Thank you, Lisa. We are not just participating in the obesity revolution. We are defining it. These are the earliest days in this market, with products that show tremendous promise and yet large unmet needs that remain. This is our moment to lead, and we are moving with urgency. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:17:312025 will be the year that we show the world that weight maintenance is possible. The work we are doing today has the power to change millions of lives, offering real, lasting solutions beyond temporary fixes. The demand is clear, the science is strong, and our path forward is bold. It takes guts. I want to take a moment to express my deep gratitude to the patients and physicians who place their trust in us, to the dedicated employees at Fractyl who are relentless in their pursuit of life-changing therapies, and to you, our shareholders, whose support fuels our mission. Your belief in our work drives us forward, and we have never been more confident in our ability to deliver on our promises. With that, we will now open the call up for questions. Thank you. Operator00:18:19Thank you. Operator00:18:22As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. To remove yourself from the queue, you may press star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Jason Gerberry of BofA Securities. Your line is open, Jason. Chi FongVP of Equity Research at BofA Securities00:18:44Hey, guys. This is Chi on for Jason. Thanks for taking our questions. I guess the first one, I want to touch on REMAIN-1. You are expecting a 12-week midpoint analysis late in second quarter. We are right at the start of second quarter now. Presumably, you have a line of sight on how many patients have achieved the pre-specified 15% total body weight loss and those who have subsequently been randomized two-to-one to receive Revita and sham or sham. Chi FongVP of Equity Research at BofA Securities00:19:27I'm hoping you can elaborate if you have already randomized roughly 40 patients or so that are expected for the midpoint analysis. Curious, what are the dropout rates so far? That is, patients getting free tirzepatide but do not follow through with the randomized portion of the study. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:19:49Hi, Chi. Thank you for the call and the question. I think that as of this morning, there were nearly 100 patients who have achieved either 15% body weight loss or close to it. A substantial number of the proportion of the 45 have been randomized and/or procedures are being scheduled. What I can—I do not know the exact number off the top of my head—but what I can tell you is that there is not a single patient who has dropped out of the study because they have not wanted to undergo the procedure so far. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:20:26Every patient who has hit 15% body weight loss and who's had a procedure that has been scheduled has undergone that procedure. We're gratified by that fact because, as you know, there's a question about whether patients might just enroll in the study in order to get tirzepatide and then not be interested in the procedure itself. That has not been an issue that we have observed thus far. With respect to the exact timing of the midpoint analysis, we will be giving updates along with REVEAL-1 data at the end of this month, but we remain on track based on what we're seeing right now. Chi FongVP of Equity Research at BofA Securities00:21:02Great. That's a good segue to my second question, and thanks for the call on REMAIN-1. Chi FongVP of Equity Research at BofA Securities00:21:10On REVEAL-1, if data is expected later this month, what sort of format and venue do you have in mind for the data disclosure? Can you remind us your expectation of the REVEAL-1 data? I know you've referenced tirzepatide, 3% waking up to four weeks. Remind us what your expectation of the REVEAL-1 first data set is. Do you expect a lot of data variability from the 10 patient or so worth of data? Operator00:21:41Yeah? Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:21:44We're having some background from the operator, but I'll go ahead and answer your question. I'll repeat your question, Chi, and then we will go. What you're asking is, what is the expectation for how we are going to present the data and also the variability there? I can tell you that this is a more heterogeneous patient population than REMAIN-1. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:22:10As you may remember, for the audience, as you may remember, in REMAIN-1, we are taking individuals who are obese, who are GLP-1 drug naive. We're providing tirzepatide, titrating them to 15% body weight loss, and then randomizing them. In the process of after stopping their tirzepatide, what that allows is a more or less homogeneous group of individuals who've lost a little bit over 15% total body weight loss. In REVEAL, we are enrolling subjects who have already been on either semaglutide or tirzepatide. The majority of them have been on tirzepatide, but they have lost varying amounts of weight relative to what you would expect to see from the REMAIN study. What we've shared already is a single individual who lost between 17% and 18% total body weight, who was followed through her one-month visit in January. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:23:09Roughly six weeks after tirzepatide discontinuation and a little bit more than a month after the Revita procedure, she had not regained any body weight and had not been feeling any ill health. What we hope to be able to show with the press release at the end of the month is a clear picture of this group of open-label patients in REVEAL-1 and to be able to give enough information to be able to unpack how you might translate that into what you would expect to see from REMAIN. Chi FongVP of Equity Research at BofA Securities00:23:46Got it. Just last quick one from me on Rejuva. Can you talk about what are the gating items you need to complete before the CTA submission and first half 2025? I know you've talked about this before, but I'm hoping you can fine-tune where you are at with the process. Chi FongVP of Equity Research at BofA Securities00:24:08Are you still planning to initiate a first-in-human study in the first half? Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:24:14Right. We provided additional clarity on that in our guidance today. We are going to be filing our first CTA module in the first half of the year. There is a device module and a drug module. The device module is going to have certain preclinical verification testing that needs to be completed in addition to the in vivo testing on CTA-enabling studies that have been done, like aging and biocompatibility. Those are the sorts of things that remain on the device side of the house. On the drug side of the house, we have some remaining CMC assay test and final testing to be completed before the drug is complete. We are going to initiate that submission in the first half of the year, as we had previously discussed. Chi FongVP of Equity Research at BofA Securities00:25:07Okay. Great. Chi FongVP of Equity Research at BofA Securities00:25:11Thanks so much. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:25:11Thanks. Operator00:25:11Thank you. Our next question comes from Mike Ulz of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead, Mike. Mike UlzExecutive Director of Biotechnology Equity Research at Morgan Stanley00:25:21Great. Good afternoon, and thanks for taking my questions. Maybe just a follow-up on Revita and the REVEAL-1 open-label portion of the study. You mentioned planning to give an update sort of end of this month. Just curious, number of patients you plan to share? I think in the past, you were suggesting maybe around 10 patients. Is that still the case? Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:25:42Yeah, that's still the case. We've actually just been constraining the size of that study as we've been also focusing on enrolling REMAIN. We are continuing to—we've enrolled north of 10 patients so far, and we're planning on sharing about 10 patients' worth of data by the end of the month. Mike UlzExecutive Director of Biotechnology Equity Research at Morgan Stanley00:26:03Okay. Great. Mike UlzExecutive Director of Biotechnology Equity Research at Morgan Stanley00:26:06Maybe just the Rejuva question more on 002, if you could just remind us or give us an update there on the status of that program and next steps there. Thanks. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:26:20RJVA-002 is a smart GIP/GLP-1 dual-incretin. It's the same delivery catheter that we developed for 001, and it is the same AAV9 backbone. The difference is that it's a plasmid that will express both GIP and GLP-1. That's still in preclinical testing, and we have not provided guidance at this time on when that will go to the clinic. We do believe that RJVA-001 in preclinical studies has demonstrated efficacy on both blood sugar and on body weight. We are planning to enroll patients who have obesity and type 2 diabetes in the first-in-human study. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:27:03We believe that we're going to learn a great deal about dosing from RJVA-001 that will inform how we plan to dose 002 in patients as well. As we make more progress on 001 in the clinic or path to the clinic and then into the clinic, we'll give you guidance on 002's timeline to a first-in-human as well. Mike UlzExecutive Director of Biotechnology Equity Research at Morgan Stanley00:27:23Great. Thanks again for taking my questions. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:27:27Thanks. Operator00:27:27Thank you. Our next question comes from Michael DiFiore of Evercore ISI. Please go ahead, Michael. Michael DiFioreManaging Director at Evercore ISI00:27:40Hi, guys. Thanks so much for taking my questions and congrats on all the progress. Just two quick ones from me regarding that first patient in REVEAL that maintained her body weight. Is there any update on that patient in terms of how much further along she is and whether she still has maintained or not gained any weight back? Michael DiFioreManaging Director at Evercore ISI00:28:04Have you done any further workup or even biomarker analysis on that patient to maybe shed some more light on durability or even mechanism for that matter? Thank you. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:28:16Thanks, Mike. I don't have any additional information to share at this time. We will have more information in due course. One of the nice things about the REVEAL-1 open-label study is that we plan to continue to follow these patients beyond early follow-up, as you know. We are going to share one-month data in a cohort, but we certainly will be following that up with three-month and six-month data when we have it. I have no specific additional information to share at this time. Michael DiFioreManaging Director at Evercore ISI00:28:47Got it. Just one quick follow-up, more of a commercial type of question. Michael DiFioreManaging Director at Evercore ISI00:28:52Are there any plans, assuming the REVEAL-1 and the REMAIN midpoint analysis is stellar and cut-mid-year, are there any plans to seek potential strategic partnerships or collaborations to maybe bolster commercialization efforts and share development costs? Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:29:10Great question, Mike. We're talking to a lot of the major players in the space. I believe that this is a study and an endpoint and an unmet need that is very much on a lot of people's minds. I think that there are a lot of people who would be interested in this therapy and the opportunity. Michael DiFioreManaging Director at Evercore ISI00:29:32Got it. Thanks so much. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:29:36Yeah. Operator00:29:36Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of William Wood of B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead, William. William WoodResearch Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:29:48Thank you so much, and congratulations on a very nice year and quarter. William WoodResearch Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:29:55A couple from us, maybe just one brief one on, or actually, I guess sort of a combined two on REVEAL-1. I'm just kind of curious, as we move throughout the year, you said you'd be providing additional data points in weight loss or weight maintenance, I guess. Upon those readouts, would we expect sort of increasing data, including biomarkers, possibly body composition or other events or other additional data analyses? Additionally, do you think—I understand at least in REMAIN, it's all a tirzepatide-based population—do you or would you potentially expect differences in weight regain based on whether the patient originally took sema or tirzepatide just with differences in body composition after those two drugs or any other differences in those weight loss dynamics? And follow-up. Thank you. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:30:51Thanks, William. Appreciate it. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:30:54We are collecting blood and doing lab work on assessments on blood sugar parameters, cardiovascular parameters, and also measuring leptin as a biomarker for body fat mass content. We will be compiling those data and then sharing them later on in the year for REVEAL. While we expect top-line data for REMAIN at the end of Q2, we do plan to investigate blood sugar and other assessments as well for reporting later on, although I can't guarantee that all of that will be available right up front. With respect to the weight regain, our analysis—and we've looked at this extensively—is that the weight regain from semaglutide and tirzepatide does not depend so much on the drug that they're on, but rather on the time course since the discontinuation of the medicine. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:32:02That is part of what we think is important to share as we walk through the REVEAL data set so that people can understand how to think about what Revita may be doing from the open-label cohort as a prelude to the randomized data coming thereafter. William WoodResearch Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:32:16Excellent. Appreciate that extra color. In terms of—you mentioned that there have been a couple of states, or I guess maybe even numerous states, that have either rejected insuring or covering obesity treatments, and then there have been others that have sort of put it on the table and either accepted it or then sort of turned back the clocks on it. Have you gone to any of the states or bodies that have potentially had these sort of back-and-forth thoughts on obesity treatments and sort of seen what their idea is on the DMR sort of treatment? William WoodResearch Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:33:01If this is something that they look at and they're like, "Oh, we're actually very interested in this," sort of apart from, say, an FDA or a broad insurance program? Just curious of those thoughts. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:33:13Yeah. We've had some conversations with public payers, and I think we have a good understanding for what they view their pain points to be. I think that the proof will be in the data that we generate from REMAIN and in the pivotal study in order to be able to articulate a value proposition more crisply. What I can say is that the desire to be able to address obesity in a holistic way and in a cost-effective manner is now very clear. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:33:50I do not believe that that was perceived to be a need by payers five years ago, but I do believe that that is a groundswell that is occurring currently. I believe that the public payers see that as much as the employers do. What we are aiming to be able to do with the REMAIN study, which I think is incredibly well-designed to do that, is to demonstrate a holistic strategy for durable weight maintenance that we believe will be highly attractive, but we will have more to say about that with data in hand as we pursue the program over the coming quarters. William WoodResearch Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:34:30Got it. Understand. Yep. I'll stop there, and I'll back in the queue. Appreciate you taking our questions, and congratulations again. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:34:39Thank you. Operator00:34:40Thank you. Once again, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone. Operator00:34:47That's star one one to ask a question. I would now like to turn the conference back to Dr. Rajagopalan for closing remarks. Sir? Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:35:02Thank you very much. Thanks to everyone for joining us this afternoon. As always, we appreciate your continued interest in and support of Fractyl, and we look forward to continuing to share updates on our progress as we address weight maintenance in the coming months. Look forward to speaking with you again shortly. Operator00:35:19This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, and welcome to Fractyl Health's Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2024 Financial Results and Business Updates Call. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. There will be a question-and-answer session following management's prepared remarks. I will now turn the call over to Brian Luque, Head of Investor Relations and Corporate Development at Fractyl. Brian, you may now begin. Brian LuqueHead of Investor Relations and Corporate Development at Fractyl Health00:00:32Thank you. This afternoon, we issued a press release that outlines the topics we plan to discuss today. This release is available at www.fractyl.com under the investors tab. Joining us on the call today are Dr. Harith Rajagopalan, Chief Executive Officer, and Lisa Davidson, Chief Financial Officer. During this call, we make forward-looking statements which involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from our forward-looking statements. We provide a comprehensive list of risk factors in our SEC filings, including the annual report on Form 10-K filed today, which I encourage you to review. Any forward-looking statements on the call are subject to substantial risks and uncertainties, speak only as of the call's original date, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise any of the statements, even if subsequent events cause the company's views to change. Brian LuqueHead of Investor Relations and Corporate Development at Fractyl Health00:01:26It is now my pleasure to pass the call over to Harith. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:01:30Thank you, Brian, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. GLP-1 drugs have undoubtedly transformed people's ability to achieve short-term weight loss. However, real-world data reveal the significant unmet need in obesity that remains. Nearly 65% of patients discontinue these treatments within the first year, with many experiencing rapid weight regain thereafter. According to a recent study in JAMA, only a minority of individuals who stop taking GLP-1 drugs reinitiate therapy within one year. While these drugs deliver initial success, long-term weight maintenance remains elusive for too many people caught in an unending pattern of loss and regain. Even as more drug options become available, it is becoming clear that non-drug options will play a crucial role in long-term weight maintenance. This is the single largest gap in obesity care today. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:02:29Fractyl is pioneering the first potentially durable solution to address the weight maintenance crisis, not just managing symptoms, but tackling the root cause of obesity in the duodenum with Revita and developing a potentially one-and-done Smart GLP-1 gene therapy with Rejuva. The unmet need is clear, and we are driving as rapidly as possible to deliver important data sets to demonstrate the potential of our solutions to address this need. Today, I'll take you through the defining milestones of 2024 and why we believe 2025 marks a pivotal step forward for Fractyl as we are laser-focused on our efforts to deliver long-term metabolic health solutions to patients who need them. We made tremendous strides across clinical, regulatory, and financial milestones in 2024. We completed our IPO, debuting on the Nasdaq under the [ticker] symbol GUTS, strengthening our financial position. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:03:28Secured FDA IDE approval for a pivotal study of Revita's role in weight maintenance following GLP-1 drug discontinuation, setting the stage for a major value inflection point as we generate the industry's first-ever randomized data in weight maintenance, a completely untapped market. Earned FDA Breakthrough Device Designation for Revita in weight maintenance after discontinuation of GLP-1-based therapy. Initiated the REMAIN-1 pivotal study with an overwhelmingly positive response from both patients and physicians, reinforcing the urgent demand for an off-ramp to GLP-1 drugs. Advanced our Rejuva gene therapy platform, nominating RJVA-001 as a first Smart GLP-1 type 2 diabetes candidate and RJVA-002 as a smart GIP/GLP-1 candidate for obesity. Received industry recognition with Rejuva's preclinical data being named a top abstract at ADA's 84th Scientific Sessions for a head-to-head study that showed Rejuva prevented weight and glycemic rebound after semaglutide withdrawal. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:04:36We completed key in vivo studies to support a clinical trial application for RJVA-001, laying the foundation for the next steps in this important program. Turning to 2025, we expect this to be a breakout year for Fractyl, our first pivotal data readout, our first regulatory filings for our gene therapy platform, and our clear path to market leadership in obesity and metabolic health. We have two distinct but highly de-risked event paths, one for Revita in weight maintenance and the other for RJVA-001's path to first-in-human data in type 2 diabetes. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:05:11We expect to achieve key clinical milestones from the REMAIN-1 study in 2025, starting with open-label data from the REVEAL-1 cohort expected at the end of Q1, a midpoint analysis anticipated at the end of Q2, and full study enrollment expected in the summer, each milestone driving us closer to breakthrough advancements in weight maintenance. We also plan to submit the first CTA module for RJVA-001 in type 2 diabetes to regulators in the first half of 2025, and if our CTA is authorized, we expect to report preliminary data in 2026. Now, let's dive deeper into the progress we've made and what's on the horizon. In January, we made the strategic decision to focus our Revita program exclusively on weight maintenance post-GLP-1 withdrawal, prioritizing the REMAIN-1 pivotal study. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:06:05This decision was driven by promising early insights from REVEAL-1 and overwhelming demand from both patients and physicians to participate in the REMAIN-1 pivotal study. In just six months, over 189 patients have enrolled across 13 clinical sites, reinforcing the urgent need for an effective off-ramp from GLP-1 therapy. In January, we also shared initial results from the first patient treated in the REVEAL-1 open-label cohort. This patient lost more than 15% of their total body weight on a GLP-1 drug and, after discontinuing per-study protocol, underwent the Revita procedure. One month post-procedure, the patient successfully maintained their weight loss during the holiday season, a notoriously challenging time for weight management. For context, prior studies of tirzepatide withdrawal show an average 3% weight regain within four weeks of GLP-1 discontinuation. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:07:04These early findings suggest Revita may provide a path forward for patients transitioning off GLP-1s, and we look forward to sharing additional patient data later this month. The financial pressures on current GLP-1 treatments are becoming impossible to ignore. With over 70% of U.S. adults affected by obesity driving an estimated $170 billion in annual medical costs, payers are reassessing their coverage. For example, West Virginia's Public Employees Insurance Agency recently discontinued GLP-1 coverage, citing unsustainable monthly costs, and insurers in states like North Carolina and Colorado are following suit, amplifying the need for sustainable long-term solutions. There is an interesting emergent dynamic in that obesity has become a health equity concern for public payers, and yet they are struggling to justify ongoing coverage of drugs that clearly work, but where their own real-world evidence shows that adherence is a significant issue. Dr. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:08:07Shailendra Singh, Director of Bariatric Endoscopy at West Virginia University Medicine and a PI in our REVEAL-1 study, has observed that patients who have achieved weight loss with GLP-1s are now beginning to ask, "What's next?" He shared with me, "I'm excited to provide solutions for patients who otherwise have none. There is incredible interest in joining the study and in the prospect of long-term durable weight maintenance solutions." Shifting focus to the REMAIN-1 randomized pivotal study, this groundbreaking double-blind trial is designed to evaluate the efficacy of our Revita procedure in sustaining weight loss after discontinuation of GLP-1 drugs. As the first study of its kind, REMAIN-1 places Fractyl at the cutting edge of innovation in long-term weight maintenance solutions. Let's frame what is a reasonable expectation for a clinically meaningful weight maintenance solution. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:09:05The FDA has specified that weight maintenance is defined as the achievement and maintenance of clinically meaningful weight loss for one year after the discontinuation of ongoing therapy. In their SURMOUNT-4 study of tirzepatide withdrawal, Eli Lilly reported that only about 16% of study participants maintained at least 80% of the weight they had lost while on the drug one year afterward. We believe that a weight maintenance therapy should, at a minimum, retain at least 50% of their weight loss at one year. A home run would be for a majority of patients to retain at least 80% of the weight they had lost at one year. Given the magnitude of the unmet need, we believe this range of outcomes would be a tremendous victory for patients who need to maintain their hard-won weight loss. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:09:58Despite the development of a variety of products for obesity, ranging from peptides to small molecules to siRNA approaches, we are unaware of any other products in development that have the potential to sustain metabolic benefits for more than one year after drug discontinuation, like the ones we are developing at Fractyl. The German Real-World Registry study in patients with type 2 diabetes has given us valuable data that validates our confidence in Revita as a potential solution. We have seen impressive clinical results in the first tranche of 17 patients who have achieved one year of follow-up. Despite the fact that these individuals represent a hard-to-treat patient segment, at 12 months post-Revita procedure, mean weight was reduced by more than 7 kg within one month and then sustained for one year thereafter. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:10:48At 12 months post-procedure, 94% of participants reported they would undergo Revita again, and 100% would recommend the procedure to a family member or friend. To date, no device or procedure-related serious adverse events have been reported. Think about what this means. In a hard-to-treat patient population, they undergo a procedure, and one year later, they are living their lives at a lower weight sustainably. We believe this is a very powerful clinical profile for weight maintenance therapy in a real-world setting. Looking beyond data and with an eye towards commercialization, we plan to leverage our relationships with GI endoscopists who specialize in bariatric and metabolic endoscopy to build a scalable and efficient commercial model. These physicians have a built-in patient base actively seeking sustainable weight management solutions and a strong referral network from primary care providers. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:11:47The integration of Revita into these existing workflows, where millions of endoscopic procedures are already performed annually for patients with obesity, creates a clear, high-volume opportunity for broad adoption. Unlike traditional drug-based approaches, Revita represents a durable procedure-based intervention designed to fit seamlessly into the standard of care for patients transitioning off GLP-1 therapy. We look forward to continuing to build out this targeted commercial model and discussing our path forward in future quarters. Now let's talk about Rejuva, our next-generation approach to metabolic disease. Unlike traditional GLP-1s that bombard your system with high drug levels, our Smart GLP-1 candidates are designed for physiologically regulated expression: more GLP-1 when you need it, where you need it, and how much you need. We believe this is the next generation of incretin therapy. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:12:47Moreover, the anticipated low viral doses can enable a low cost of goods and a new pricing model for gene therapies because a patient population at risk is so large. This is a new commercial model for gene therapies and one that we believe can overcome the challenges of commercializing gene therapies to date. At the end of last year, at the World Congress for Insulin Resistance, we presented key preclinical data demonstrating the successful targeted delivery of RJVA-001, our Smart GLP-1 pancreatic gene therapy in large animal models. Using our proprietary endoscopic ultrasound-guided system, we achieved safe and precise pancreatic delivery in Yucatan pigs at a low total viral dose, closely mirroring our planned first-in-human studies. Results showed therapeutically relevant GLP-1 expression within pancreatic beta cells with no adverse safety effects, reinforcing RJVA-001's potential as a breakthrough approach for type 2 diabetes. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:13:53We recently met again with German regulators and achieved alignment on a patient population and study design for the RJVA-001 first-in-human study. Our primary focus will be to evaluate its safety and tolerability, and the study is also designed to provide an early indication of potential efficacy to help determine the optimal dose for a future phase three study. We plan to investigate 001 in a patient population with uncontrolled type 2 diabetes who are on a GLP-1 drug and between one to three other non-insulin glucose-lowering agents. We're very encouraged by the positive dialogue with German regulators and the favorable feedback we have received thus far on our preclinical program and data and our upcoming CTA filing. With this critical validation and alignment in place, we are on track to submit this first CTA module to regulators in the first half of 2025. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:14:50If our CTA is authorized, expect to report preliminary data in 2026. We hope to show how a Smart GLP-1 can reshape the treatment paradigm in metabolic disease and bend the curve toward remission of obesity and type 2 diabetes. With that, I will now turn the call to Lisa to provide an update on our fourth quarter and full-year financials. Lisa? Lisa DavidsonCFO at Fractyl Health00:15:15Thank you, Harith. In the fourth quarter of 2024, revenue was generated from our commercial pilot in Germany and enabled patients to enroll in the German Real-World Registry study. Turning to operating expenses, research and development expense in the fourth quarter of 2024 was $20.3 million, compared to $10.1 million for the same period in 2023. Lisa DavidsonCFO at Fractyl Health00:15:41The increase during the quarter was primarily due to the progress made in our REMAIN-1 clinical study, the REVITALIZE-1 clinical study, continued development of the Rejuva platform, and increased personnel-related expenses, including stock-based compensation. Selling, general, and administrative expense in the fourth quarter of 2024 was $4.9 million, compared to $2.8 million in the same period in 2023. The increase during the quarter was primarily due to the increased cost associated with operating as a publicly traded company and increased personnel-related expenses, including stock-based compensation. For the fourth quarter of 2024, we reported a net loss of $25 million, compared to a net loss of $19.2 million for the same period in 2023. Lisa DavidsonCFO at Fractyl Health00:16:32The increase in net loss was primarily attributed to the increase in operating expenses discussed above, partially offset by the non-cash gain from changes in fair value of warrant liabilities, as well as an increase in net interest income. As of December 31st, 2024, Fractyl had approximately $67.5 million in cash and cash equivalents. Based on our current development plans, we believe that our existing cash and cash equivalents will be sufficient to fund our operations through key anticipated company clinical milestones into 2026. I will now turn the call back to Harith. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:17:10Thank you, Lisa. We are not just participating in the obesity revolution. We are defining it. These are the earliest days in this market, with products that show tremendous promise and yet large unmet needs that remain. This is our moment to lead, and we are moving with urgency. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:17:312025 will be the year that we show the world that weight maintenance is possible. The work we are doing today has the power to change millions of lives, offering real, lasting solutions beyond temporary fixes. The demand is clear, the science is strong, and our path forward is bold. It takes guts. I want to take a moment to express my deep gratitude to the patients and physicians who place their trust in us, to the dedicated employees at Fractyl who are relentless in their pursuit of life-changing therapies, and to you, our shareholders, whose support fuels our mission. Your belief in our work drives us forward, and we have never been more confident in our ability to deliver on our promises. With that, we will now open the call up for questions. Thank you. Operator00:18:19Thank you. Operator00:18:22As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. To remove yourself from the queue, you may press star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Jason Gerberry of BofA Securities. Your line is open, Jason. Chi FongVP of Equity Research at BofA Securities00:18:44Hey, guys. This is Chi on for Jason. Thanks for taking our questions. I guess the first one, I want to touch on REMAIN-1. You are expecting a 12-week midpoint analysis late in second quarter. We are right at the start of second quarter now. Presumably, you have a line of sight on how many patients have achieved the pre-specified 15% total body weight loss and those who have subsequently been randomized two-to-one to receive Revita and sham or sham. Chi FongVP of Equity Research at BofA Securities00:19:27I'm hoping you can elaborate if you have already randomized roughly 40 patients or so that are expected for the midpoint analysis. Curious, what are the dropout rates so far? That is, patients getting free tirzepatide but do not follow through with the randomized portion of the study. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:19:49Hi, Chi. Thank you for the call and the question. I think that as of this morning, there were nearly 100 patients who have achieved either 15% body weight loss or close to it. A substantial number of the proportion of the 45 have been randomized and/or procedures are being scheduled. What I can—I do not know the exact number off the top of my head—but what I can tell you is that there is not a single patient who has dropped out of the study because they have not wanted to undergo the procedure so far. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:20:26Every patient who has hit 15% body weight loss and who's had a procedure that has been scheduled has undergone that procedure. We're gratified by that fact because, as you know, there's a question about whether patients might just enroll in the study in order to get tirzepatide and then not be interested in the procedure itself. That has not been an issue that we have observed thus far. With respect to the exact timing of the midpoint analysis, we will be giving updates along with REVEAL-1 data at the end of this month, but we remain on track based on what we're seeing right now. Chi FongVP of Equity Research at BofA Securities00:21:02Great. That's a good segue to my second question, and thanks for the call on REMAIN-1. Chi FongVP of Equity Research at BofA Securities00:21:10On REVEAL-1, if data is expected later this month, what sort of format and venue do you have in mind for the data disclosure? Can you remind us your expectation of the REVEAL-1 data? I know you've referenced tirzepatide, 3% waking up to four weeks. Remind us what your expectation of the REVEAL-1 first data set is. Do you expect a lot of data variability from the 10 patient or so worth of data? Operator00:21:41Yeah? Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:21:44We're having some background from the operator, but I'll go ahead and answer your question. I'll repeat your question, Chi, and then we will go. What you're asking is, what is the expectation for how we are going to present the data and also the variability there? I can tell you that this is a more heterogeneous patient population than REMAIN-1. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:22:10As you may remember, for the audience, as you may remember, in REMAIN-1, we are taking individuals who are obese, who are GLP-1 drug naive. We're providing tirzepatide, titrating them to 15% body weight loss, and then randomizing them. In the process of after stopping their tirzepatide, what that allows is a more or less homogeneous group of individuals who've lost a little bit over 15% total body weight loss. In REVEAL, we are enrolling subjects who have already been on either semaglutide or tirzepatide. The majority of them have been on tirzepatide, but they have lost varying amounts of weight relative to what you would expect to see from the REMAIN study. What we've shared already is a single individual who lost between 17% and 18% total body weight, who was followed through her one-month visit in January. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:23:09Roughly six weeks after tirzepatide discontinuation and a little bit more than a month after the Revita procedure, she had not regained any body weight and had not been feeling any ill health. What we hope to be able to show with the press release at the end of the month is a clear picture of this group of open-label patients in REVEAL-1 and to be able to give enough information to be able to unpack how you might translate that into what you would expect to see from REMAIN. Chi FongVP of Equity Research at BofA Securities00:23:46Got it. Just last quick one from me on Rejuva. Can you talk about what are the gating items you need to complete before the CTA submission and first half 2025? I know you've talked about this before, but I'm hoping you can fine-tune where you are at with the process. Chi FongVP of Equity Research at BofA Securities00:24:08Are you still planning to initiate a first-in-human study in the first half? Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:24:14Right. We provided additional clarity on that in our guidance today. We are going to be filing our first CTA module in the first half of the year. There is a device module and a drug module. The device module is going to have certain preclinical verification testing that needs to be completed in addition to the in vivo testing on CTA-enabling studies that have been done, like aging and biocompatibility. Those are the sorts of things that remain on the device side of the house. On the drug side of the house, we have some remaining CMC assay test and final testing to be completed before the drug is complete. We are going to initiate that submission in the first half of the year, as we had previously discussed. Chi FongVP of Equity Research at BofA Securities00:25:07Okay. Great. Chi FongVP of Equity Research at BofA Securities00:25:11Thanks so much. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:25:11Thanks. Operator00:25:11Thank you. Our next question comes from Mike Ulz of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead, Mike. Mike UlzExecutive Director of Biotechnology Equity Research at Morgan Stanley00:25:21Great. Good afternoon, and thanks for taking my questions. Maybe just a follow-up on Revita and the REVEAL-1 open-label portion of the study. You mentioned planning to give an update sort of end of this month. Just curious, number of patients you plan to share? I think in the past, you were suggesting maybe around 10 patients. Is that still the case? Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:25:42Yeah, that's still the case. We've actually just been constraining the size of that study as we've been also focusing on enrolling REMAIN. We are continuing to—we've enrolled north of 10 patients so far, and we're planning on sharing about 10 patients' worth of data by the end of the month. Mike UlzExecutive Director of Biotechnology Equity Research at Morgan Stanley00:26:03Okay. Great. Mike UlzExecutive Director of Biotechnology Equity Research at Morgan Stanley00:26:06Maybe just the Rejuva question more on 002, if you could just remind us or give us an update there on the status of that program and next steps there. Thanks. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:26:20RJVA-002 is a smart GIP/GLP-1 dual-incretin. It's the same delivery catheter that we developed for 001, and it is the same AAV9 backbone. The difference is that it's a plasmid that will express both GIP and GLP-1. That's still in preclinical testing, and we have not provided guidance at this time on when that will go to the clinic. We do believe that RJVA-001 in preclinical studies has demonstrated efficacy on both blood sugar and on body weight. We are planning to enroll patients who have obesity and type 2 diabetes in the first-in-human study. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:27:03We believe that we're going to learn a great deal about dosing from RJVA-001 that will inform how we plan to dose 002 in patients as well. As we make more progress on 001 in the clinic or path to the clinic and then into the clinic, we'll give you guidance on 002's timeline to a first-in-human as well. Mike UlzExecutive Director of Biotechnology Equity Research at Morgan Stanley00:27:23Great. Thanks again for taking my questions. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:27:27Thanks. Operator00:27:27Thank you. Our next question comes from Michael DiFiore of Evercore ISI. Please go ahead, Michael. Michael DiFioreManaging Director at Evercore ISI00:27:40Hi, guys. Thanks so much for taking my questions and congrats on all the progress. Just two quick ones from me regarding that first patient in REVEAL that maintained her body weight. Is there any update on that patient in terms of how much further along she is and whether she still has maintained or not gained any weight back? Michael DiFioreManaging Director at Evercore ISI00:28:04Have you done any further workup or even biomarker analysis on that patient to maybe shed some more light on durability or even mechanism for that matter? Thank you. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:28:16Thanks, Mike. I don't have any additional information to share at this time. We will have more information in due course. One of the nice things about the REVEAL-1 open-label study is that we plan to continue to follow these patients beyond early follow-up, as you know. We are going to share one-month data in a cohort, but we certainly will be following that up with three-month and six-month data when we have it. I have no specific additional information to share at this time. Michael DiFioreManaging Director at Evercore ISI00:28:47Got it. Just one quick follow-up, more of a commercial type of question. Michael DiFioreManaging Director at Evercore ISI00:28:52Are there any plans, assuming the REVEAL-1 and the REMAIN midpoint analysis is stellar and cut-mid-year, are there any plans to seek potential strategic partnerships or collaborations to maybe bolster commercialization efforts and share development costs? Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:29:10Great question, Mike. We're talking to a lot of the major players in the space. I believe that this is a study and an endpoint and an unmet need that is very much on a lot of people's minds. I think that there are a lot of people who would be interested in this therapy and the opportunity. Michael DiFioreManaging Director at Evercore ISI00:29:32Got it. Thanks so much. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:29:36Yeah. Operator00:29:36Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of William Wood of B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead, William. William WoodResearch Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:29:48Thank you so much, and congratulations on a very nice year and quarter. William WoodResearch Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:29:55A couple from us, maybe just one brief one on, or actually, I guess sort of a combined two on REVEAL-1. I'm just kind of curious, as we move throughout the year, you said you'd be providing additional data points in weight loss or weight maintenance, I guess. Upon those readouts, would we expect sort of increasing data, including biomarkers, possibly body composition or other events or other additional data analyses? Additionally, do you think—I understand at least in REMAIN, it's all a tirzepatide-based population—do you or would you potentially expect differences in weight regain based on whether the patient originally took sema or tirzepatide just with differences in body composition after those two drugs or any other differences in those weight loss dynamics? And follow-up. Thank you. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:30:51Thanks, William. Appreciate it. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:30:54We are collecting blood and doing lab work on assessments on blood sugar parameters, cardiovascular parameters, and also measuring leptin as a biomarker for body fat mass content. We will be compiling those data and then sharing them later on in the year for REVEAL. While we expect top-line data for REMAIN at the end of Q2, we do plan to investigate blood sugar and other assessments as well for reporting later on, although I can't guarantee that all of that will be available right up front. With respect to the weight regain, our analysis—and we've looked at this extensively—is that the weight regain from semaglutide and tirzepatide does not depend so much on the drug that they're on, but rather on the time course since the discontinuation of the medicine. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:32:02That is part of what we think is important to share as we walk through the REVEAL data set so that people can understand how to think about what Revita may be doing from the open-label cohort as a prelude to the randomized data coming thereafter. William WoodResearch Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:32:16Excellent. Appreciate that extra color. In terms of—you mentioned that there have been a couple of states, or I guess maybe even numerous states, that have either rejected insuring or covering obesity treatments, and then there have been others that have sort of put it on the table and either accepted it or then sort of turned back the clocks on it. Have you gone to any of the states or bodies that have potentially had these sort of back-and-forth thoughts on obesity treatments and sort of seen what their idea is on the DMR sort of treatment? William WoodResearch Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:33:01If this is something that they look at and they're like, "Oh, we're actually very interested in this," sort of apart from, say, an FDA or a broad insurance program? Just curious of those thoughts. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:33:13Yeah. We've had some conversations with public payers, and I think we have a good understanding for what they view their pain points to be. I think that the proof will be in the data that we generate from REMAIN and in the pivotal study in order to be able to articulate a value proposition more crisply. What I can say is that the desire to be able to address obesity in a holistic way and in a cost-effective manner is now very clear. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:33:50I do not believe that that was perceived to be a need by payers five years ago, but I do believe that that is a groundswell that is occurring currently. I believe that the public payers see that as much as the employers do. What we are aiming to be able to do with the REMAIN study, which I think is incredibly well-designed to do that, is to demonstrate a holistic strategy for durable weight maintenance that we believe will be highly attractive, but we will have more to say about that with data in hand as we pursue the program over the coming quarters. William WoodResearch Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:34:30Got it. Understand. Yep. I'll stop there, and I'll back in the queue. Appreciate you taking our questions, and congratulations again. Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:34:39Thank you. Operator00:34:40Thank you. Once again, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone. Operator00:34:47That's star one one to ask a question. I would now like to turn the conference back to Dr. Rajagopalan for closing remarks. Sir? Harith RajagopalanCEO at Fractyl Health00:35:02Thank you very much. Thanks to everyone for joining us this afternoon. As always, we appreciate your continued interest in and support of Fractyl, and we look forward to continuing to share updates on our progress as we address weight maintenance in the coming months. Look forward to speaking with you again shortly. Operator00:35:19This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. 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