Creative Media & Community Trust Corporation Q4 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Major balance sheet progress: Reduced recourse corporate credit facility from $169 million to $15 million with three property-level financings, and expect one more to fully retire it, leaving only $27 million of covenant-free subordinated notes.
  • Q4 core FFO improvement: Core FFO rose by about $4.5 million sequentially to –$7.0 million (–$0.75/share) driven by higher NOI, lower interest expense, and reduced preferred dividends, while FFO was –$8.7 million (–$0.93/share).
  • Strategic refinancings completed: Closed mortgages on the Chardon Grand Hotel (Sacramento), Wilshire office portfolio (Los Angeles) and a Culver City creative office building to pay down the revolver and fund renovations.
  • Multifamily growth & developments: Year-over-year occupancy up 240 bps, 4750 Wilshire conversion now 40% leased (residential) and ground-floor office 100% leased, and 1915 Park (36-unit Echo Park JV) on track for midyear delivery.
  • Office leasing momentum: Executed 176,000 sq ft of leases in Q4, overall office occupancy at 71% (82% excluding Oakland) with increasing demand in Los Angeles and Austin despite Bay Area headwinds.
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Earnings Conference Call
Creative Media & Community Trust Corporation Q4 2024
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Operator

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Creative Media & Community Trust fourth quarter 2024 earnings conference call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star and then one using a touch-tone telephone. To withdraw your questions, you may press star and two. Please also note today's event is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the floor over to Steve Altebrando, Portfolio Oversight. Sir, you may begin.

Steve Altebrando
Portfolio Oversight at CMCT

Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us. My name is Steve Altebrando, the Portfolio Oversight for CMCT. Also on the call today are David Thompson, our Chief Executive Officer, and Barry Berlin, our Chief Financial Officer. This call is being webcast and will be temporarily archived on the Investor relations section of our website, where you can also find our earnings release. Our earnings release includes a reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures discussed during today's call. During this call, we will make forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are based on the beliefs of, assumptions made by, and information currently available to us. Our actual results will be affected by known and unknown risks, trends, uncertainties, and other factors that are beyond our control or ability to predict. Although we believe our assumptions are reasonable, they are not guarantees of future performance, and some will prove to be incorrect.

Steve Altebrando
Portfolio Oversight at CMCT

Therefore, our actual future results can be expected to differ from our expectations, and those differences may be material. For a more detailed description of potential risks, please refer to our SEC filings, which can be found in the Investor Relations section of our website. With that, I'll turn the call over to David Thompson.

David Thompson
David Thompson
CEO at CMCT

Thanks, Steve, and thank you to everyone for joining our call today. I'd like to take a moment to give an update on the progress of our strategic initiatives, and then I'll go over our quarterly results. As we have discussed on previous calls, we remain focused on improving our balance sheet and liquidity and growing our multifamily portfolio, as well as reducing our traditional office assets. In September, we announced actions to address these priorities. Specifically, we announced our intention to place property-level financing on several of our assets and use the proceeds to fully repay and retire our recourse corporate-level credit facility. We've made significant progress on this, closing three mortgages since November, and we have used a substantial portion of the proceeds to reduce the balance outstanding on our credit facility, which is now $15 million, down from $169 million at the end of the third quarter.

David Thompson
David Thompson
CEO at CMCT

We're working to complete one additional financing, which we expect to close over the coming months, that we expect will provide sufficient proceeds to complete the repayment and full retirement of this recourse credit facility. We are pleased to have made progress on these transactions, particularly in an environment that is very challenging to finance office properties. After we complete this process, the only corporate debt remaining will be our $27 million junior subordinated notes, which have about 10 years of term remaining and no corporate covenants. We also continue to evaluate asset sales with the goal of strengthening our balance sheet, improving our liquidity, and growing our portfolio of premier multifamily assets.

David Thompson
David Thompson
CEO at CMCT

Turning to our fourth quarter results, our core FFO improved by approximately $4.5 million from the prior quarter, primarily due to higher NOI, lower interest expense, and lower preferred dividends, which was due to the redemption of preferred shares in the third quarter. Our net operating income increased by $1.6 million from the third quarter, primarily due to our hotel segment, which increased $1.1 million. Our lending and multifamily divisions generated small increases in NOI, while our office segment had a small quarter-over-quarter decline in NOI. With that, I will turn it over to Steve to provide a further update on our development pipeline, the portfolio, and our co-investment activity.

Steve Altebrando
Portfolio Oversight at CMCT

Thanks, David. I would like to provide some more details on the refinancings that David referenced. In November, we closed a mortgage of up to $92.2 million on our Sheraton Grand Hotel in Sacramento. Proceeds were primarily used to pay down our credit facility and to fund the previously discussed $21 million room renovation of all 505 rooms at the property that is now complete. We anticipate starting renovation of the public space later this year. The next phase of the renovation will be funded using proceeds from operations, future funding from the loan, and $8 million of key money we will receive as part of the extension of our management agreement with Marriott. In December, we closed on a $105 million mortgage on our three-property Wilshire portfolio in Los Angeles, which includes high-quality office assets at 11600, 11620, and 9460 Wilshire Boulevard in Brentwood and Beverly Hills.

Steve Altebrando
Portfolio Oversight at CMCT

We primarily used the proceeds to pay down our credit facility, as well as to establish a reserve for lease-up costs. In February, we closed a $5 million mortgage on 8944 Lindblade, a creative office building in Culver City that has a new 10-year lease in place. Proceeds will be used for tenant improvements on the new lease and general corporate purposes. As David mentioned, we have made significant progress reducing the balance on our recourse credit facility. In addition, we are in the process of financing 3601 South Congress, also called Penfield, our creative office campus in Austin, Texas, which we expect to complete over the coming months. The proceeds are expected to be used to retire our credit facility. Turning to our multifamily results, NOI modestly increased from the prior quarter.

Steve Altebrando
Portfolio Oversight at CMCT

While total occupancy declined about 220 basis points from the prior quarter, it increased 240 basis points year-over-year. We are making progress on our lease-up of 701 South Hudson in Los Angeles, residential portion of our partial office to residential top two-floor conversion at 4750 Wilshire. The ground floor creative office space is 100% leased, and the top two floors were converted to 68 high-end residential units. The residential portion of the property is now 40% leased, compared to 10% on our last call. The asset is located in Hancock Park, an affluent residential submarket of Los Angeles, where housing is supply constrained. We currently have one development underway, 1915 Park, which is a seven-story, 36-unit ground-up multifamily development in Echo Park, Los Angeles, a thriving walkable submarket with numerous dining and entertainment options.

Steve Altebrando
Portfolio Oversight at CMCT

This project is a joint venture with an international pension fund and is being developed on land adjacent to our office building at 1910 West Sunset. We continue to expect to deliver the asset mid-year. Turning to our office segment, we executed nearly 176,000 sq ft of leases in the fourth quarter as we extended our largest tenant to the end of 2027. Our office lease percentage was 71% at the end of the fourth quarter. When excluding our one office building in Oakland, our lease percentage is 82% at the end of the fourth quarter. Our occupancy has been impacted by work-from-home trends and challenges in the Bay Area. However, we would note that leasing activity has been steadily picking up, particularly at our LA and Austin assets. With that, I'll turn it over to Barry.

Barry Berlin
CFO at CMCT

Thank you, Steve. Good morning. I'm going to spend a few minutes going over the financial highlights for the fourth quarter 2024, starting with our segment NOI, which was $9.2 million for the fourth quarter of 2024, compared to $10.8 million in the prior year comparable period. Broken down by segment, the decrease of $1.6 million was driven by decreases of $193,000 for our office properties, $254,000 from our multifamily properties, $828,000 from our hotel business, and $331,000 from our lending business. Our office segment NOI for Q4 2024 was $5.2 million versus $5.4 million during Q4 2023. The slight drop was driven by a decrease in rental revenue at our office property in Oakland, California, attributable to a decrease in occupancy resulting from a large tenant exercising a partial lease termination option.

Barry Berlin
CFO at CMCT

This decrease was partially offset by our unconsolidated office entities, which collectively experienced a decrease in the net unrealized loss on their investments in real estate compared to the prior year period. For our multifamily segment, we reported segment NOI of approximately $855,000 during Q4 2024, compared to approximately $1.1 million for the prior year comparable period. The decrease was primarily due to an unrealized loss on investment in real estate and one of our unconsolidated joint ventures during the fourth quarter of 2024. Due to construction related to hotel renovations that began in the third quarter of 2024, our hotel operations had decreased occupancy, causing a drop in NOI of approximately $828,000-$2.1 million for the fourth quarter of 2024, compared to $2.9 million in the prior year comparable period.

Barry Berlin
CFO at CMCT

Our lending division NOI decreased to $980,000 from $1.3 million in the prior year comparable period, primarily due to a decrease in premium income and a decrease in interest income as a result of lower loan originations and loan sale volume. Our below-the-NOI line activity was relatively flat when comparing the fourth quarter of 2024 to last year. We had an increase in depreciation and amortization of $1.6 million, which was driven by additions to our fixed assets resulting from capital expenditures during 2023 and 2024, as well as a loss on early extinguishment of debt of $1.4 million related to the paydown of the majority of our revolver during the current quarter in advance of its maturity.

Barry Berlin
CFO at CMCT

These reductions to our NOI were partially offset by a decrease in interest expense not allocated to our operating segments of around $1.1 million, due mostly to a decrease in aggregate fund level and property level debt outstanding, a decrease in transaction-related costs of $1 million, and a decrease in G&A expenses of $800,000. Our FFO was -$8.7 million, or -$0.93 per diluted share, compared to -$9.9 million, or -$4.07 per diluted share in the prior year comparable period. Our core FFO was -$7 million, or -$0.75 per diluted share, compared to -$8.4 million, or -$3.46 per diluted share in the prior year comparable period. The increase in FFO and core FFO was primarily due to a decrease in redeemable preferred stock dividends of approximately $1.3 million.

Barry Berlin
CFO at CMCT

Finally, we are seeking shareholder approval to do a 1-for-25 reverse stock split. While our recent preferred common redemptions improved our cash flow, liquidity, and balance sheet, it also increased the amount of common shares outstanding, contributing to a lower stock price. With that, we can now open the line for questions.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, we'll begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star and then one using a touch-tone telephone. To withdraw your questions, you may press star and two. If you are using a speakerphone, we do ask that you please pick up your handset prior to pressing the keys to ensure the best sound quality. Once again, that is star and then one to join the question queue. We'll pause momentarily to assemble the roster. Once again, if you would like to ask a question, please press star and one. Ladies and gentlemen, ensuring no questions at this time, we'll close today's question and answer session, as well as today's conference call. We do thank you for attending today's presentation. You.

Executives
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    • Barry Berlin
      CFO at CMCT
    • Steve Altebrando
      Portfolio Oversight at CMCT
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