Roper Technologies Q1 2025 Earnings Report

Roper Technologies EPS Results

• Actual EPS: $4.78
• Consensus EPS: $4.74
• Beat/Miss: Beat by +$0.04
• One Year Ago EPS: $4.41

Roper Technologies Revenue Results

• Actual Revenue: $1.88 billion
• Expected Revenue: N/A
• Beat/Miss: N/A
• YoY Revenue Growth: +12.00%

Roper Technologies Announcement Details

• Quarter: Q1 2025
• Date: 4/28/2025
• Time: Before Market Opens
• Conference Call Date: Monday, April 28, 2025
• Conference Call Time: 8:00AM ET

Roper Technologies (NASDAQ:ROP) (NASDAQ:ROP) is a diversified technology company that develops and operates specialized businesses serving niche markets. Its portfolio primarily consists of software and technology-enabled businesses that provide products and services to commercial, government, healthcare, education, and other professional customers.

The company’s activities include vertical-market software, network and data-management software, and technology-enabled products. Its software businesses support functions such as healthcare operations, education administration, construction and engineering, legal and professional services, and enterprise workflow management. Roper also owns businesses that provide specialized industrial, medical, and scientific products for applications including laboratory testing, medical imaging, water management, and other technical markets.

Roper was established in 1981 and has expanded largely through the acquisition and development of niche businesses. The company adopted the name Roper Technologies in 2015 to reflect its increasing emphasis on software and technology. It serves customers in the United States and international markets through a portfolio of independently managed operating companies. Neil Hunn has served as Roper Technologies’ president and chief executive officer since 2018.

Roper Technologies Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

• Positive Sentiment: Q1 results were strong — total revenue grew 12%, organic revenue 5%, and trailing‑12‑month free cash flow grew 12%; management raised full‑year revenue guidance to the ~12% range and nudged DEPS guidance to $19.80–$20.05.
• Positive Sentiment: Roper closed the acquisition of CentralReach for $1.65 billion (net of a $200M tax benefit), expects ~<$175M revenue and ~$75M EBITDA for the TPM period, and projects ~20% revenue and EBITDA growth once organic — the deal is being reported in Application Software.
• Positive Sentiment: Balance‑sheet flexibility remains high — pre‑deal net debt/EBITDA was 2.4x and pro forma around ~3.0x after CentralReach, with management citing more than $5 billion of available M&A firepower to deploy.
• Neutral Sentiment: Segment performance was mixed but resilient — Application Software grew 19% (organic 6%) with margin expansion, Network Software organic growth was 1% (DAT improving; Foundry recovering), and Tech grew 6%; company kept full‑year organic target of 6–7%.
• Negative Sentiment: Near‑term headwinds include Deltek’s exposure to federal budget uncertainty (causing some sales to "push to the right"), ongoing tariff/macro noise, and Q2 free cash‑flow timing pressures from bond coupon payments and tax timing.

Presentation

[Operator]

Good morning. The Roper Technologies conference call will now begin. Today's call is being recorded. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing star zero on your telephone keypad. I would now like to turn the call over to Zack Moxcey, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

[Zack Moxcey, VP of Investor Relations at Roper Technologies]

Good morning, and thank you all for joining us to discuss the first quarter 2025 financial results for Roper Technologies. Joining me on the call this morning are Neil Hunn, President and Chief Executive Officer; Jason Conley, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; Brandon Cross, Vice President and Principal Accounting Officer; and Shannon O'Callaghan, Senior Vice President of Finance. Earlier this morning, we issued a press release announcing our financial results. The press release also includes replay information for today's call. We prepared slides to accompany today's call, which are available through the webcast and are also available on our website. If you please turn to page two. We begin with our safe harbor statement. During the course of today's call, we will make forward-looking statements which are subject to risks and uncertainties as described on this page in our press release and in our SEC filings.

[Zack Moxcey, VP of Investor Relations at Roper Technologies]

You should listen to today's call in the context of that information. Please turn to page three. Today, we will discuss our results primarily on an adjusted, non-GAAP and continuing operations basis. For the first quarter, the difference between our GAAP results and adjusted results consists of the following items: amortization of acquisition-related intangible assets, transaction-related expenses associated with completed acquisitions, and lastly, financial impacts associated with our minority investment in Indicor. Reconciliations can be found in our press release and in the appendix of this presentation on our website. Please turn to page four. I'll hand the call over to Neil. After our prepared remarks, we will take questions from our telephone participants. Neil?

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Thank you, Zack, and thanks to everyone for joining our call. As we turn to page four, you'll see the topics we plan to cover today. We'll start with our Q1 highlights, which included reviewing our most recent acquisition, CentralReach. Then, we'll go through our segment results and our modestly improved outlook for the year, and then get to your questions. Let's go ahead and get started. Next slide, please. As we turn to page five, let me highlight the four key takeaways for today's call. First, our quarterly financial results were solid, with Q1 total revenue growing 12%, organic revenue growing 5% as expected, and cash flow growing 12% over the last 12 months. Secondly, we successfully completed last week the acquisition of CentralReach, which I'll discuss in a bit.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Third, given our solid start to the year and the completion of the CentralReach acquisition, we're raising our full-year total revenue guidance and modestly increasing our full-year EBITDA outlook. Finally, we continue to be very well positioned for capital deployment with more than $5 billion of available firepower over the course of the next 12 months. As we turn to page six, allow me to remind everyone about the durability of our business model. As a cash flow compounder, it is critical our underlying cash flow generation capability of our enterprise is, in fact, durable. While no business is immune from the current macroeconomic, trade, and policy environment, we feel our enterprise is far better suited than most to withstand the uncertainty. To this end, over 85% of our revenues are generated in the U.S., and over 85% of our software revenues recur.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Our enterprise solutions are mission-critical, and this criticality is best demonstrated by our 95% gross retention. More importantly, we have a very efficient business model that long-term converts about 30% or as much better of our revenue to free cash flow. All of this is further enhanced by our capital deployment optionality. With this reminder, let's now discuss the newest acquisition to our family companies, CentralReach. As we turn to page seven, I'll start with what CentralReach does. CentralReach is the market-leading cloud-native software solution that enables applied behavior analysis, or ABA therapy, providers to deliver care for individuals with autism spectrum disorder. On a daily basis, about 200,000 professionals use CentralReach's platform to perform their daily tasks, such as setting up clients, running their practice, scheduling care, collecting clinical data, and processing reimbursement claims.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

CentralReach's offerings enable an overworked population of therapists to deliver more and better care to the autism community. This is all done in a cloud-native, modern-tech platform that utilizes GenAI on a robust basis. As it relates to the deal, we paid $1.65 billion net of a $200 million tax benefit. We expect CentralReach to deliver about $175 million of revenue and $75 million of EBITDA for the TPM period ending June 2026. Further, we expect CentralReach's revenue and EBITDA to continue to grow in the 20% area or as much higher once it turns organic for reporting purposes. As you can see, CentralReach meets all of our longstanding acquisition criteria: leader in a niche market, competes on the basis of customer intimacy, has strong gross margins, and converts high levels of cash flow.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

In addition, CentralReach reflects our new maturing leader criteria of being a higher-growth business, in this case in the 20% area. We financed the acquisition with a revolver and report the results in our application software segment. Now, turning to page eight, we'll briefly walk through the long-term drivers of CentralReach's growth. As you can see at the top here, CentralReach is the leader in a market with strong, sustainable tailwinds. First, there is a long-term persistent shortage of ABA therapists compared to patient demand. To scale this for you, for the U.S. alone, the current annual demand is approximately 900 million hours, where only about 300 million therapist hours are currently being supplied. We estimate the care gap to exist for the next decade, both in the U.S. and throughout the developed world.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Finally, CentralReach is winning with the winners, meaning their clients tend to be the industry aggregators, so as CentralReach's customers grow, so does CentralReach. As we talked about on the prior page, CentralReach's solutions are mission-critical to the delivery of care. Their tools help measure outcomes, ensure compliance, and realize reimbursement. Perhaps more so, CentralReach's solutions unlock operational efficiencies, which allow for more care hours to be delivered to a grossly underserved patient population. Finally, CentralReach has multiple levers available to both grow revenue and expand margins. Some of these levers include expanding their product portfolio, cross-selling their new AI-powered solutions, continuing to win new logos, opportunistically pursuing adjacent markets such as speech and occupational therapies, and bringing their solutions to international markets. Importantly, while we grow this business, we expect to see continued margin expansion.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

In short, this is a powerhouse business that is a critical solution to a huge challenge the world is facing. To the CentralReach team, so excited for you to join Roper. Thank you for all you do for the autism community and for trusting Roper to become your permanent partner. With that, let me turn the call over to Jason to talk through our P&L and our balance sheet. Jason?

[Jason Conley, EVP and CFO at Roper Technologies]

Thanks, Neil, and good morning, everyone. As you heard from Neil, we had a good start to the year. Revenue of $1.9 billion was up 12%, led by an 8% contribution from acquisitions, mainly via our Transact and ProCare portfolio additions, and organic growth of 5%. Coming into 2025, we expected Q1 to be our lowest quarter for organic growth, given some comp challenges in our network segment. 5% was in line with that expectation. To click into the monthly cadence throughout the quarter, for software, enterprise bookings were at low single digits in the quarter. This was expected following very strong Q4 performance across the portfolio. Importantly, pipelines remain healthy given the essential nature of our solutions. Yet, we are cautiously optimistic and mindful of the current macro environment heading into Q2.

[Jason Conley, EVP and CFO at Roper Technologies]

For products, demand improved throughout the quarter, particularly at Neptune and Verathon, without any indication of pull-forward activity. EBITDA of $740 million was up over 9% in total and nearly 10% on a segment basis. Reported EBITDA margin of 39.3% was down 90 basis points versus prior year. Core EBITDA margin, which excludes acquisitions, was solid at 40.8%, representing a 50 basis point margin expansion or 53% incrementals. Regarding acquisition margins, Q1 is Transact's lowest margin quarter, as about half of Transact's EBITDA comes in the third quarter of each year. This is due to a high concentration of term renewals and back-to-school transaction volume. We will expect margin expansion from Q1 as we progress throughout the year. For diluted EPS, we delivered $4.78, which was above our guidance range of $4.70-$4.70, led by strong margin performance.

[Jason Conley, EVP and CFO at Roper Technologies]

Finally, on free cash flow, Q1 came in at $507 million, which was down 1% versus prior year. Note that this figure includes a legal settlement of $24 million, which was funded in January, and we discussed in our last earnings call. Though Q1 free cash flow was a bit low, it was not unexpected, given the exceptionally strong Q4 working capital performance that I had discussed in our last call. Overall, free cash flow margins, if you look over the last few years, we've been in the 31%-32% range. Last quarter, I had mentioned that we issued $2 billion of bonds in Q3 2024, yet the first coupon payments are occurring in February and April of this year. This, along with the legal settlement in Q1, has about a $70 million or 80 basis points impact on free cash flow margins this year.

[Jason Conley, EVP and CFO at Roper Technologies]

Operationally, we feel good about working capital conversion and the structural free cash flow margin profile going forward. Now, we'll turn to slide 10 to discuss our strong financial position. We finished the quarter with net debt to EBITDA of 2.4 times with a fully undrawn revolver. Last week, we closed on CentralReach and used the revolver to fund the acquisition. This brings our pro forma net leverage to around 3 times. As we roll forward our expected cash flow and leverage ratios, we remain in a great position even after funding CentralReach, with over $5 billion of capacity to deploy towards high-quality acquisitions. To that end, we continue to work through a very strong pipeline of opportunities today. Given the uncertain macro backdrop, some PE sponsors are understandably taking a breath.

[Jason Conley, EVP and CFO at Roper Technologies]

However, as we have discussed, many PE sponsors need to return capital to LPs in the near future, and so the current market dislocation creates a favorable environment for Roper. In summary, our unique and resilient business model creates opportunity during times of uncertainty. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Neil. Neil?

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Thanks, Jason. As we turn to page 12, let's review our application software segment. Revenue for the quarter grew 19% in total, and organic revenue grew by 6%. EBITDA margins were 41.4%, and core margins improved 110 basis points in the quarter. This group of companies continues to demonstrate resilience and deliver on our growth expectations. As we turn to the businesses, we'll start with Deltek. Deltek grew in the mid-singles range in the quarter, both recurring and total revenues. As we highlight on the slide, Deltek continues to have strong migration to their cloud offerings while the business continues to innovate at a rapid pace and is benefited by very strong gross and net retention. Aderant continues to be very strong with record first-quarter bookings and strong cloud migration activity in the quarter. Aderant continues to gain market share and carry its momentum forward.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

PowerPlan also was outstanding in the quarter. Over the last several years, the team has done a great job at making the revenue stream more recurring in nature. In addition, they continue to get amazing feedback with their cloud offerings, which are driving strong SaaS migration activity. Also, during the quarter, we promoted Rafi Shure, Aderant's COO, to succeed Joe Gomes as the next CEO of PowerPlan. Joe Gomes is now leading ProCare for us. We love seeing our high-potential leaders be placed in positions that have even higher levels of impact. Turning to Vertafore, which was once again steady and solid for us, we continue to see consistent ARR growth and strong customer retention here. ProCare, our platform acquisition from a year ago, has done a nice job competing and winning the market, increasing its market share versus the primary competitor.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

That said, there's a clear opportunity for the business to reach its full potential, both in terms of operational efficiency and growth. Because of this, we ask Joe Gomes, who has been a CEO within the Roper portfolio for eight years, to lead ProCare going forward. We look forward to Joe replicating his prior Roper leadership success at ProCare. Finally, the combination between Transact and CBORD is going according to our integration plan, and the combined business is performing well in the market. Now, turning to the outlook for the balance of the year, we see no change in the trajectory of the outlook and continue to expect to see organic growth in the mid-single plus range. Also, and as we highlighted last quarter, we want to remind you that Transact's revenue, earnings, and margin profile are highest in the third quarter, as Jason mentioned earlier.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Please turn with to page 13. Organic revenue in our network software segment grew 1% in the quarter, as we expected, given a difficult prior year comp at MHA. EBITDA margins remain strong, 55.3%. As we dig into the individual businesses, we'll start with DAT. DAT grew in the quarter, as expected, based on increased RPU driven by carrier and broker price actions, product packaging, and continued customer cross-sell activity. In addition, DAT continues to innovate at a rapid pace and did a great job integrating our recent Trucker Tools bolt-on acquisition. For the balance of the year, we continue to expect to see DAT grow based on the price actions rolling into their current revenue. From a market point of view, spot market volumes and DAT monetized network participation continue to bounce along the bottom, which is what we expect to occur for the balance of the year.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Both MHA and Foundry declined in the quarter, as expected, for MHA due to a prior year difficult comp and for Foundry due to the final elements of the actors and writers' strike hangover. That said, we did see nice green shoot activity at Foundry during the quarter, and now feel confident that the worst is behind and Foundry's ARR will, in fact, return to growth this year. ConstructConnect was strong for us in the quarter. The growth was fueled by strong customer bookings activity and improved customer retention. In addition, building on what Matt Strazza started, our new leader, Buck Brody, is doing a terrific job leaning into GenAI and developing very interesting, innovative, and potentially groundbreaking products. We look forward to talking more about this in future calls. Finally, our alternate site healthcare businesses, SoftWriters, and SHP continue to grow nicely, winning in the marketplace.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

As we turn to the outlook, we continue to expect to see revenue growth in the mid-singles range for the balance of the year. Now, please turn to page 14 and let's review our tech segment's full year results. Revenue here grew 6% on a total and organic basis, and EBITDA margins came in at 36.2%. Solid results. Before we get into the business specifics, the vast majority of our tariff exposure resides within this segment. The good news is that most of our cross-border flows are USMCA compliant, which obviously mitigates most of the tariff impact. Our teams will continue to work this issue and further mitigate as needed. Though none of us are enjoying the continually evolving tariff situation, it is yet another example of the nimble execution capabilities of our organization.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

In March, when all the tariff noise started kicking up in earnest, our business leaders went to work to countermeasure the risk and start reworking the necessary supply chain activity. Nice job by the teams, and keep up the great work. Now, turning to Verathon. Verathon continues to be rock solid for us. Coming off an incredible 2024 in Q4, they did a nice job growing in Q1. The source of their strength remained consistent: their single-use bronchoscope or B-Flex product leadership and their video laryngoscopy or GlideScope market leadership. Importantly, Verathon has built a true world-class new product development capability with several new product releases slated for this year. We look forward to talking about these new products as soon as they're launched. Turning to Neptune, which was just solid once again for us. They continue to do a great job with their ultrasonic meter go-to-market execution.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Also, and importantly, in the quarter, we completed the acquisition of a cloud-based utility billing software solution for Neptune. The Neptune team has long crafted their strategy based on the unique unmet needs of their customers. From their market research and ongoing discussions with customers, it became abundantly clear that Neptune could solve a persistent industry problem by closing the loop in the meter-to-cash cycle. This acquisition provides Neptune with a final piece of the strategy. We look forward to talking about the enhanced customer value by fully connecting the water meter read to data management to billing and collection processes. Special thanks to Don Deemer and the entire Neptune leadership team for completing this incredibly strategic acquisition. Exciting stuff. Of note, both Verathon and Neptune order momentum improved as the quarter progressed.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Turning to our CIVCO Medical Solutions business, they unfortunately declined in the quarter based on a very difficult prior year comp. Finally, NDI nailed it in the quarter, and we need to brag on this business and the team for a bit. They have proprietary and world-class precision measurement technologies used on healthcare applications worldwide. Over the past few years, the team has done an amazing job of hyper-focusing on their medical markets and their OEM clients. In addition, they have built and are building a world-class go-to-market capability to match their product strength. Based on this, they're winning in important sub-markets within healthcare, namely orthopedic surgery, interventional radiology, and cardiac ablation. Great job, Dave, and your entire team. Turning to the outlook for this segment, we continue to expect to see high single-digit revenue growth for the balance of the year.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

With that, please turn with us to page 16. Let's turn to our Q2 and increased full year 2025 guidance. Given our solid Q1 start, the closing of our CentralReach acquisition, and our outlook for the balance of the year, we're increasing our total revenue growth outlook from 10% to be in the 12% area. Our organic growth rate of 6%-7% for the full year remains unchanged. Finally, we're increasing our full year DEPS outlook by a nickel on the low and the high end to be $19.80-$20.05. Included in this outlook is $0.15 of CentralReach dilution. Our guide continues to assume a full year effective tax rate in the 21%-22% area. For the second quarter, we expect adjusted DEPS to be between $4.80 and $4.84, and we are absorbing $0.05 of CentralReach dilution in the quarter.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Now, please turn with us to page 17, and then we'll open it up to your questions. We'll conclude with the same four key takeaways with which we started. First, our first quarter financial results were solid, and our businesses remained very resilient to the current trade and macroeconomic dynamics. Second, we successfully completed the acquisition of CentralReach. Third, given our solid start to the year and the completion of the CentralReach acquisition, we're modestly raising our full year guidance. Finally, we remain well-positioned for capital appointment, where we continue to have more than $5 billion of available firepower over the course of the next 12 months. Despite the macroeconomic uncertainties in the market, when it comes to acquisitions, Roper remains open for business.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

As it relates to our compounding model, we grew total revenue 12% and organic revenue 5% in the quarter, and free cash flow 12% over the last 12 months. We're delighted with our acquisition of CentralReach. As discussed, this vertical market leader is mission-critical to the delivery of autism care and has several embedded structural growth drivers that will support its 20% revenue and EBITDA growth outlook. Finally, we continue to be very well-positioned with more than $5 billion of available M&A firepower to deploy capital towards leading vertical market software businesses. Our M&A pipeline continues to be very active, and our teams are engaged on several opportunities. It is always difficult to predict timing of deals, but we remain quite bullish on our ability to deploy capital this year. Keep in mind, at least historically, we have found times of uncertainty can be advantageous for deploying capital.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Think Vertafore in the summer of 2020. As usual, we're excited to pursue these opportunities with our unbiased and disciplined approach. Now, as we turn to your questions, and if you could flip to the final slide, our strategic compounding flywheel, we'd like to remind everyone that what we do at Roper is simple. We compound cash flow over a long arc of time by executing a low-risk strategy and running a dual-threat offense. First, we have a proven, powerful business model that begins with operating a portfolio of market-leading, application-specific, and vertically oriented business. Once a company is part of Roper, we operate a decentralized environment so our businesses can compete and win based on customer intimacy. We coach our businesses on how to structurally improve their long-term and sustainable organic growth rates and underlying business quality.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Second, we run a centralized, process-driven capital appointment strategy that focuses in a deliberate and disciplined manner on cultivating, curating, and acquiring the next great vertical market-leading business to add to our cash flow compounding flywheel. Taken together, we compound our cash flow over a long arc of time in the mid-teens area, meaning we double our cash flow every five years or so. With that, we'd like to thank you for your continued interest and support and open the floor to your questions.

[Operator]

We will now go to our question-and-answer portion of the call. We request that our callers limit their questions to one main question and one follow-up. If you would like to ask a question, you may do so by pressing the star key followed by the number one on your touchstone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys.

[Operator]

To withdraw your question, you may do so by pressing star followed by the number two. Again, we request the callers to limit their questions to one main question and one follow-up. With that, our 1st question comes from the line of Brent Thill with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

[Brent Thill, Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Jefferies]

Hi, good morning. Neil, curious to hear your perspective on what's happening with PE and with the behavior Jason mentioned, some hesitancy. I think that makes sense, but maybe just give us a quick overview on what you're seeing.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Yeah, good morning, Brent. Thanks for joining this morning. Yeah, what we're seeing in the deal, what you'd expect to see, by the way, with all the uncertainty generally is a slowdown. What we're seeing on the ground, with our pipeline, with our conversations with sponsors, investment bankers, companies, is just a consistent drumbeat of activity.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

The pipeline is as robust as it's been. We're super pleased, obviously, that we got CentralReach done this year. We still have $5 billion deployed over the next 12 months or so. We would sort of have what we're seeing at the high level, just a general macro uncertainty disconnect to what we're seeing on the ground level. We will just have to see how it plays out in terms of the balance of the year, but we're certainly cautiously optimistic. As we said in the prepared remarks, times of uncertainty oftentimes in our history present very unique opportunities to deploy capital.

[Brent Thill, Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Jefferies]

Great. Quick follow-up just on Deltek on the Fed exposure. Can you help us understand what you're seeing there? If you've given up the percent exposed in that sector, it'd be helpful. Thanks.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Yeah, sure. Happy to do that.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Deltek is 60% of their business is focused on helping federal government contractors run their business, 40% are on other professional services-oriented markets. The broader, it's a broad set of activities that has created an amount of uncertainty in the government contracting part of the Deltek customer base. It's obviously DOGE, but it's the budget uncertainty. It's the government shutdown, the debt ceiling. All of that taken together, as you'd expect, creates a fair amount of uncertainty. What happens in that uncertainty is the pipeline pushes to the right a touch. As we've seen this since we owned this business in 2016, and so we've seen this pattern play out before. Things push to the right a touch. The customer sentiment, when we talked with our leadership team there during our quarterly call downs, is actually quite good.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

They feel like this is a short-term speed bump versus any medium or long-term concern. What happens when the pipeline pushes to the right, Deltek's growth rate just slows a touch. Deltek will grow this year, but we probably will take a point, or we have taken a point or two of growth off of Deltek's organic growth rate for this year given the uncertainty. Yeah, it's more acute too because the GovCon enterprise segment is mostly, if they're doing expansions or add-ons, it's mostly through perpetual licenses, so that'll impact in year.

[Brent Thill, Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Jefferies]

Great. Thanks.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Yep, you bet.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from the line of Brad Reback with Stifel. Please go ahead.

[Operator]

Great. Thanks very much. As it relates to free cash flow and operating cash flow, should we expect a return to growth here in June, or is it more back-end weighted?

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Yeah, thanks for the call, Brad. It's going to be more back-end weighted. Q2 for us, I mentioned on the prepared remarks we had, we haven't done bonds in a few years, so we did our first offering Q3 of last year, and some of the coupon payments aren't due until April. We just got a little bit of a timing between P&L interest and cash interest, so that'll impact the second quarter. Also just noting, the second quarter is usually our lowest quarter of the year because we make two federal tax payments. As we roll through to the second half, you're right, it'll be a very strong Q3. We have our Transact business will have a full quarter of that. They get most of their EBITDA and cash flow in the third quarter.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Our Frontline business is particularly strong in the third quarter as well. Expect a better second half than a first half.

[Brad Reback, Managing Director at Stifel]

That's great. Just real quick on CentralReach, given that there are 200,000 providers on the platform, does the gross retention rate look a little different here than maybe other aspects of the software business?

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Yeah, it does a bit. If you think about it just customer only or logo only, it's in the mid to high 90s. When you add, to your point, some of the therapists that come in and out of the market, then it's more of a sort of a low 90s gross retention. We get that back on the net retention, right? As the market consolidates and those go to the winners, we get that through net retention. Net retention is kind of 115%-120% range.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

That's kind of how we think about it.

[Brad Reback, Managing Director at Stifel]

Great. Thanks very much.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

You bet.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from the line of Joshua Tilton with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.

[Joshua Tilton, Senior Vice President of Equity Research at Wolfe Research]

Hey, guys. Can you hear me?

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

We can. Good morning.

[Joshua Tilton, Senior Vice President of Equity Research at Wolfe Research]

Good morning, guys. Thanks for squeezing me in here. Maybe just to start, I guess I just want to take it back and be a little high level. I guess I heard a lot on the call the word uncertainty, but I also heard a lot on the call the word durability. You guys do believe that all the businesses are pretty durable even in the current environment. I guess can you just help us high level understand in the context of your decision to pretty much reiterate the guidance on the top line?

[Joshua Tilton, Senior Vice President of Equity Research at Wolfe Research]

Where are there some offsetting puts and takes in the guidance that maybe either give you or do not give you some wiggle room if the macro gets worse from here or maybe even better? Just to start, thank you.

[Jason Conley, EVP and CFO at Roper Technologies]

You are right. I mean, I think the durability gave us confidence to reiterate. The puts and takes, I would say we just talked about Deltek might be a little bit weaker, but you have got other businesses that had strong bookings that are materializing in terms of recurring revenue throughout the year. In AS, we are sort of hold and serve there. I would say at NS, pretty much the same, hold and serve. We talked about how DAT is going to improve throughout the year. We still believe that to be the case. Foundry saw some green shoots, as Neil talked about.

[Jason Conley, EVP and CFO at Roper Technologies]

We expect that business to exit in sort of the high single-digit range somewhere in there. Within TEP, there has not been a lot at the top level, but I would say our NDI business certainly has some good tailwinds. Some of these new indications that they have been targeting for years in terms of cardiac ablation and orthopedics have taken hold. I would say that got us confident in maintaining our guidance for the year.

[Joshua Tilton, Senior Vice President of Equity Research at Wolfe Research]

Super helpful. Maybe just a little more nuanced follow-up to that. Can you just talk of the durability of Deltek, maybe specifically for the third quarter, just how you think about it throughout the rest of the year?

[Joshua Tilton, Senior Vice President of Equity Research at Wolfe Research]

I know you guys gave some high-level commentary on the moving pieces in that business there, but maybe how we should think about your visibility into that business and then just durability as we move throughout the year.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Yeah, I mean, Deltek is 80-85% recurring, which gives you an amazing amount of predictability and durability. As Jason alluded, there's a little bit of perpetual that that business still has that we've trimmed off a little bit. As I mentioned, that's essentially what's driving our slightly lower growth outlook for the total year. We'll stop short of giving you any quarterly sort of specifics on individual businesses.

[Joshua Tilton, Senior Vice President of Equity Research at Wolfe Research]

I tried, but I appreciate it, guys. Thank you so much. Yeah.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from the line of Joseph Vruwink with Baird. Please go ahead.

[Joseph Vruwink, Senior Research Analyst at Baird]

Hi, great. Thanks for taking my questions.

[Joseph Vruwink, Senior Research Analyst at Baird]

I guess when thinking about confidence for the remainder of the year, bookings for software, order patterns for products are about as good as it gets when thinking about leading indicators. Maybe beyond what you have in hand, what's been the perspective within businesses that are more reliant on cloud or subscription transitions? That would seem to be maybe something that's a slightly harder proposition relative to the businesses where when renewals aren't coming due and you can make an assumption for renewal rates. Are there any indications around the transition-oriented revenues where maybe customer preference could slow if the macro remains uneasy out there?

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Yeah, thanks for the question, Joe. So Aderant is kind of our leader in the pack in terms of cloud transition. And actually, Q1 was very strong for them.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

They're starting to actually move into the higher end of the client base in terms of cloud transition. Did not see any indications. I understand your point, and we did not see it there. Maybe at Deltek, but that's not as much of a tailwind for them. That kind of is in this sort of uncertainty bucket with DOGE, but that'll happen eventually. Otherwise, yeah, we did not see PowerPlan had a nice quarter. Actually, great point. PowerPlan just launched their tax for fixed asset product about two quarters, one or two quarters ago. Saw really good uptake there. Their recurring revenue is now growing double digits as a result of that. Nothing that we could see in terms of transition to the cloud and slowing customer decision-making. We did not see any of that.

[Joseph Vruwink, Senior Research Analyst at Baird]

Okay. That's great.

[Joseph Vruwink, Senior Research Analyst at Baird]

You kind of touched on this with Deltek, but extending more broadly, how would you frame a stress test around the non-recurring elements of both AS and NS? Could declines be possible there? I know it's a mix. I'll throw in recurring to this question. You have a mix of perpetual license, I would assume very high margin, but then also services and payments. Is the profit margin implication if the non-recurring pieces are declining? I would imagine it's probably good for your margin mix, just kind of a framing there.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

I think the perpetual and the service are fairly offsetting relative to recurring relative to SaaS subscription. I don't think we'll have any meaningful margin impact there. At Network, our non-recurring is really small, so it's not as significant.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

I think it is a question in terms of in AS, that's probably the only area that has some question in terms of where it's going to be this year. It's probably going to be up a little bit. That's at least our current thinking. We'll see how the year plays out.

[Joseph Vruwink, Senior Research Analyst at Baird]

Great. Thank you.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from the line of Terry Tillman with Truist Securities. Please go ahead.

[Terry Tillman, Managing Director at Truist Securities]

Yeah. Hi, Neil, Jason, and Zack. Thanks for taking my question and follow-up. The first one just relates to the CentralReach. We enjoyed reading the 2025 market report they put out. I think it said 75% of customers are purchasing AI solutions. I'm curious. I know you just brought this into the fold, but is the AI-driven revenue meaningful at all at this point for CentralReach?

[Terry Tillman, Managing Director at Truist Securities]

Are you seeing some of that kind of AI attach rate yet on any of the other app software products? I had a follow-up.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Yeah, sure. CentralReach's AI products are new to the market. I mean, they're new in the last 12 months. There are three essentially buckets of products, and they did not all get released nine or 12 months ago. It has been a rolling release. No, we have got it. It is not a material amount of revenue for CentralReach, but it is one of their meaningful growth drivers going forward that the company and we are excited about. To your 2nd part of that question, the 2nd part of the question about the rest of Roper, I would say CentralReach is leading relative to the Roper portfolio, but my guess is the balance of the portfolio will catch up quickly.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

The first derivative of AI, sort of the GPTs that ride along with our products or the fraud exposure that was sort of mitigated at DAT, those sorts of applications, we've done a very good job. Now, as most companies are, pivoting to the second derivative, which we think is a huge TAM expander for us. This is where you get the agentic digital employees. Our companies are very, very busy extending our software with the agentic capability into the workflows of our customers. We expect to monetize those on a work completed basis. We are very excited by that. It is still pretty early, but it is moving at a very, very, very quick clip.

[Terry Tillman, Managing Director at Truist Securities]

Got it. Thanks. I did not mean to cut you off, Neil. Just a follow-up question related to core EBITDA margin for you, Jason.

[Terry Tillman, Managing Director at Truist Securities]

I think it was up 50 basis points in the first quarter. How do we think about core EBITDA margins for the year, realizing you have another acquisition that's in the mix now? Thanks.

[Jason Conley, EVP and CFO at Roper Technologies]

Yeah. I think core EBITDA margins will be, I think, up a little bit this year at the segment level, right? And then we've got probably with the core DNA, it's more flattish if you include that, but still strong. I think we had a good, in terms of AS, I think acquisition margins are going to get better throughout the year, and then core will sort of hold. Network will probably get a little bit better in the 2nd half just through scale. TEP had a good quarter. We think that's going to continue throughout the year just with NDI and some of Verathon's products coming to market.

[Terry Tillman, Managing Director at Truist Securities]

Thank you.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from the line of Ken Wong with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

[Ken Wong, Managing Director and Senior Analyst at Oppenheimer]

Hi, thanks for taking my question. You guys mentioned Deltek pushed a little to the right. As you look across your portfolio and you think through kind of customer sales conversations, any other areas where you're seeing some modest shift to the right?

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Not really. I mean, we studied that intently and intensively as we went through our quarterly reviews and really looked for it. It was clear at Deltek. It was just not clear at other places. Doesn't mean that it might not happen a little bit, but it hasn't happened here yet. Yeah, I would say, I mean, Aderant had the highest bookings quarter they've ever had. Strata had a phenomenal quarter in terms of in terms of TCVs, their total contract value, which will benefit us over several years.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

They had a really good quarter. Vertafore was a little soft, but they had an exceptionally strong Q4, so we were not surprised to see a little bit of year-over-year weakness there.

[Jason Conley, EVP and CFO at Roper Technologies]

We talked about ConstructConnect. We talked about Foundry. We talked about SoftWriters. SHP iPipeline was fine in the quarter.

[Ken Wong, Managing Director and Senior Analyst at Oppenheimer]

Got it. I guess should you happen to see some erosion going forward, help us think through what are the countermeasures that you guys are thinking about? Would it be more kind of margin defensive, or are there particular actions that you guys would potentially implement to try to maintain growth? What would be your next step should something emerge?

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Yeah. I think for us, we kind of have this natural incentive for the businesses. They usually are very thoughtful about the pacing of investment.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

If they start to see some weakness, it's in their best interest to make sure that they're being prudent, obviously making the right investments. We're very transparent with areas they should not be cutting, but they naturally have that sort of in their P&L. I would just say the incentives are variable too throughout the company. It's based on growth. We get some of that margin preservation there as well.

[Ken Wong, Managing Director and Senior Analyst at Oppenheimer]

Perfect. Thanks, guys. You bet.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from the line of Scott Davis with Melius Research. Please go ahead.

[Scott Davis, Chairman and CEO at Melius Research]

Hey, good morning, guys.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Good morning, Scott.

[Scott Davis, Chairman and CEO at Melius Research]

Hey, I just wanted to clarify because we just kind of crossed over a little bit. It sounds like tariffs are a big kind of nothing burger for you guys and seem somewhat isolated to Verathon. Is that a fair statement?

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

I wouldn't say it's isolated to Verathon. Most of the product business in the TEP segment have to deal with some amount of tariff impact, but the vast majority, Neptune, Verathon, CIVCO, is USMCA compliant. That's why we're able to sort of be a sort of a $10 million-$15 million issue.

[Scott Davis, Chairman and CEO at Melius Research]

Okay. Fair enough. All right. Moving to something more important, the port activity that we're seeing just seems like it could be hitting an air pocket, maybe in 2Q or later in 2Q. You don't seem to be concerned about the freight activity kind of if and when that occurs. Is there particular are you guys less exposed, I suppose, at the ports as otherwise for DAT?

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

We're watching it, as you'd expect, on a weekly basis when we look at the metrics.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Scott, I think that maybe the simplest way to think about it is the paying or the monetized part of the DAT network on the carrier side flexes, but not day-to-day to demand, right? If there was, for instance, in March, if there was a pull forward across the economy for pre-tariff shipping, we did not see a surge in carrier demand in the network. Just like if there's a little bit of slack in the system, we won't see it immediately turn off. Now, if it sustained that way for six months to 12 months, then we would expect to see an impact on the carrier side of the network. We just have assumed going into the beginning of the year, sort of flattish on the carrier volume units, and that's where we are maintaining it.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

DAT will grow this year because of the price actions, and we'll see how things play out from here. Okay.

[Scott Davis, Chairman and CEO at Melius Research]

Good color. Thank you. Appreciate it. Good luck, guys. You bet. Pass it on. Thanks.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from the line of Deane Dray with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

[Deane Dray, Managing Director at RBC Capital Markets]

Thank you. Good morning, everyone.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

You bet, Dr. Dray. How are you?

[Deane Dray, Managing Director at RBC Capital Markets]

Doing really well. Thank you. I want to circle back on CentralReach, and it's a bit unusual. I mean, it's a good problem to have to explain. You don't typically get a business with this type of growth profile. Often, PE has public company aspirations for someone at a 20%+ growth. Just how is this available, and what percent of the funnel have these kind of growth profile for you?

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Yep.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

On sort of how did this come about, I would say it was a very traditional process for us. This was a business that was owned by Insight. We've known the Insight team for a while. It was John and her team about a year ago were talking with Insight. This was about this asset. We had an opportunity to meet the CEO, plus or minus a year ago. We started doing our proprietary market work. Nine months ago or so, we liked a lot of the structural elements of the market, the growth drivers. They're solving a real problem in society. We see AI, GenAI, as a strong tailwind with very limited sort of headwind or risk associated with it in this end market. The process started in a very traditional way with an investment bank. It was very competitive.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

As we've been able to do in the last handful of deals, we've really been able to articulate the Roper value proposition to the management team, right? What is life like inside a Roper? The advantages of having permanent, long-term forever capital, the way you can grow your business inside of that. In this case, there were many LOIs submitted, but because we had won management, we were able to get the callback and have the opportunity to essentially have a week to finish the transaction, which we did. We're very excited by that, the process, the way that it unfolded. In terms of what's in the pipeline, the vast, I mean, the vast majority of the funnel are these maturing leader-type businesses. The growth rates are going to range between 10%-25%. This doesn't mean every deal has to be in the 20s.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Deane, as you know, what we're solving for here in our revised capital appointment strategy is sort of 30% or 40% better returns in year five. We can get there. We can solve for that a couple of different ways, but the opportunities in the market that are plentiful of these more higher-growing businesses to help solve for that, where you get both the growth and the benefit of margin expansion over time. I'd also just say in terms of funnels, we have a very good mix also of bolt-ons, right? We've been really active on the bolt-on front, and you're continuing to see that as well.

[Deane Dray, Managing Director at RBC Capital Markets]

Got it. Just to confirm here, does CentralReach, is it accretive to CRI on a total company basis? At what point does that contribution become positive?

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

It is working capital. CentralReach is working capital negative.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

What's important for us through our CRI lens is that we just remain negative from a working capital point of view. The incremental transaction doesn't have to be incrementally negative to the fleet. It just has to make sure we stay negative.

[Deane Dray, Managing Director at RBC Capital Markets]

Got it. Thank you.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

You bet.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from the line of Joe Giordano with TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

[Joe Giordano, Managing Director at TD Cowen]

Hey, guys. Good morning.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Good morning, Joe.

[Joe Giordano, Managing Director at TD Cowen]

Can you just walk me through the guide mechanics, like the walk from prior to current? Like your small VEET and a quarter versus guide, hold the organic, absorb $0.15, and still raising. Is there kind of a contingency that was being removed? Where's the offset here?

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Yeah. I think you've characterized it right. We had a little bit of margin and a little bit of interest contingency in our last guide.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

I talked about all the things that are sort of holding within AS. Deltek is a little bit weaker, but others are offsetting that. And US is about on, as we talked about, TEP probably a little bit better on margin, I would say, versus our last guide. That is what gets you to the revised, pretty much updated guidance that flows through the Q1B.

[Joe Giordano, Managing Director at TD Cowen]

Okay. That makes sense. I have been getting a lot of calls on Deltek as far as what the exposure is. I mean, you have talked about it a lot on this call, so we do not have to go crazy here. Is the primary DOGE risk kind of done now? If Musk is going back to Tesla and we have not seen these big changes to these businesses yet, are we not just going to stop worrying that it is happening?

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

I think, again, I said it earlier. I don't want to characterize this as just a DOGE thing. I mean, it's DOGE. What our pattern recognition of our own in this business is 2016 is when there is a potential government shutdown and the budget uncertainty, that too is just people don't know where the spending's going to be at the period, right? All of this that's blended together has created the uncertainty. This community of government contractors provides essential services to the government. That's why we think this is a short-term thing and not a structural or even a medium-term thing.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

I think the most recent, if you just go to DOGE, I think the most recent conversations are we're sort of stuck at $160 billion or $170 billion, and people are going to take that as a win as opposed to try to get to the trillion or whatever the number is going to be. Obviously, with Musk spending more of his time going back to his other day jobs and having the limited number of days and his government sort of contractors, government employment status will certainly probably slow down the DOGE impact.

[Joe Giordano, Managing Director at TD Cowen]

That makes sense. Great. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

You bet.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from the line of Steve Tusa with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

[Steve Tusa, Managing Director at JP Morgan]

Hi. Good morning. Hey. Good morning, Steve. Just on the organic, just maybe some color on the 2Q organic.

[Steve Tusa, Managing Director at JP Morgan]

Secondarily on education, there's obviously a lot going on there as well with the government and how they're kind of pressuring some of these higher-ed organizations. Anything there that you guys are seeing as well?

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Yep. I'll let Jason take the first. I'll take your education question.

[Jason Conley, EVP and CFO at Roper Technologies]

Yeah. I mean, I think we're going to, it'll step up from Q1 a bit. I think at AS, we'll have a little bit of an increase just as you see ProCare rolling in. Obviously, NS is going to go up to mid-singles as we talked about at the beginning of the year with just DAT and Foundry ramping, and we don't have the MHA comp issue. High singles-ish range probably for TEP, just with all the things we've talked about. It's true for Q2 as well.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

On the Department of Education and education generally, there's noise in the system, but when you read through what the administration is thinking about doing with the Department of Education, it's essentially not cutting funding. It's just block granting the funding down to the states. If you look at the 2025 CR, Department of Education funding equals 2024. The Title I sort of funding is like 80%, by the way. The president and the secretary on repeat have said that's not going to be touched in terms of the total amount. There's certainly some pressure on DEI and sort of the conflict in Maine on some of the athletes and whatnot about holding back funding. Though I think those are bespoke issues, the big overarching thing is the funding dollars are not going to change. Just maybe the administration of the funding dollars might change going forward.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

We have not heard there has been any slowdown or panic at the customer level about their funding.

[Steve Tusa, Managing Director at JP Morgan]

Okay. Lastly, just in April here, the software bookings, have you actually seen acceleration from the low single digit?

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

We do not get that information.

[Steve Tusa, Managing Director at JP Morgan]

Okay. Great. Thanks for the detail.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Yep. Thanks for the detail.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from the line of Julian Mitchell with Barclays. Please go ahead.

[Julian Mitchell, Equity Research Analyst at Barclays]

Hi. Good morning. Just wanted to follow up a little bit on the organic sales sort of acceleration you have dialed in. I guess you grew total company 5% organic Q1. I think it is 5% organic over the last 12 months. It seems the sort of enterprise software bookings are a little slow to start the year. I think the backlog at TEP was down 40% or so in December.

[Julian Mitchell, Equity Research Analyst at Barclays]

I just wondered, sort of the assumption of an acceleration to maybe 8%+ growth in the back half, the confidence there. Is there anything outside of Foundry that's turning around a lot?

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

I mean, I think we'll start with network. I mean, Foundry, obviously, but then DAT as well. We're assuming carriers are going to be flat, but even despite that, we're expecting the business to get better throughout the year and have a decent exit velocity. We've talked about TEP already, I think, which is really just Neptune continuing to get better throughout the year. They have an easy comp in the third quarter, if you recall. We talked about NDI being another component of TEP that's given us confidence in the guidance there.

[Jason Conley, EVP and CFO at Roper Technologies]

The other thing I'd say, Julian, is as it relates to the bookings activity, trailing 12 months bookings activity is up low double digits. It takes time for that bookings activity to work its way into revenue. That is in the machine and converting to revenue as we speak. We have broad tailwind strength on bookings activity. Q4 is amazing. Q3 was a little bit slower as we expected. I would not read too much. Just listening to your question, I would not read too much. I think you're reading too much into a Q1's booking number because you really have to look at what the buildup of the bookings is that sort of feeds the machine.

[Julian Mitchell, Equity Research Analyst at Barclays]

That's helpful. Thank you. My follow-up would be on the application software, EBITDA margins.

[Julian Mitchell, Equity Research Analyst at Barclays]

You had this sort of 300 basis points headwind, I guess, to the EBITDA margin year-on-year in the first quarter. How are you sort of thinking about that play out over the balance of the year as sort of CentralReach come in? Is that core OMX you had of 100 basis points or so a good run rate for the rest of the year?

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

I think as I'm just trying to parse out what you're saying here. I think on a core basis, we should see margin expansion this year. Maybe not as much as we saw in the first quarter, but certainly up nicely. We talked about Deltek targeted restructuring last year. We've seen some benefits of that this year. The acquisition margins I talked about, let's just kind of take CentralReach to the side for a second.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

Those will get better throughout the year because you've got a ramping of activity at ProCare, and then you've got Transact having a seasonally strong third quarter and actually better second quarter than first quarter. That'll get better throughout the year. CentralReach, to your point, will come in at sort of low 40s EBITDA margins. That'll benefit. Deltek's got a benefit this year because they did a belt tightening in Q4, which carries through for the full year.

[Julian Mitchell, Equity Research Analyst at Barclays]

That's great. Thank you.

[Neil Hunn, President and CEO at Roper Technologies]

You bet.

[Operator]

This concludes our question and answer session. We will now return back to Zack Moxcey for any closing remarks.

[Zack Moxcey, VP of Investor Relations at Roper Technologies]

Thank you, everyone, for joining us this morning. We look forward to speaking with you during our next earnings call.

[Operator]

The conference call has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. We may now disconnect.

Participants

Executives

• Neil Hunn, President and CEO
• Zack Moxcey, VP of Investor Relations
• Jason Conley, EVP and CFO

Analysts

• Ken Wong, Managing Director and Senior Analyst at Oppenheimer
• Julian Mitchell, Equity Research Analyst at Barclays
• Brent Thill, Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Jefferies
• Joshua Tilton, Senior Vice President of Equity Research at Wolfe Research
• Joseph Vruwink, Senior Research Analyst at Baird
• Steve Tusa, Managing Director at JP Morgan
• Terry Tillman, Managing Director at Truist Securities
• Deane Dray, Managing Director at RBC Capital Markets
• Brad Reback, Managing Director at Stifel
• Scott Davis, Chairman and CEO at Melius Research
• Joe Giordano, Managing Director at TD Cowen