NASDAQ:TRS TriMas Q1 2025 Earnings Results & Report $37.57 -0.05 (-0.13%) Closing price 11/13/2026 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$37.52 -0.05 (-0.15%) As of 11/13/2026 07:30 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. TriMas beat analyst expectations on both earnings and revenue in its Q1 2025 results, released April 29, 2025. The company reported EPS of $0.46 versus the $0.43 consensus estimate, while revenue of $241.67 million topped the $235.41 million estimate by $6.26 million. Revenue increased 6.4% year over year. Research:ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Earnings Announcement Details QuarterQ1 2025Report DateApril 29, 2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call10:00 AM ET TriMas EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.46Consensus EPS $0.43Beat/MissBeat by +$0.03One Year Ago EPS$0.37EPS Beat Rate5 of last 8 quartersTriMas Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$241.67 millionExpected Revenue$235.41 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$6.26 millionYoY Revenue Growth+6.40%Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by TriMas Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrApril 29, 2025ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways TriMas delivered strong Q1 results with net sales up 6.4% year-over-year to $241.7 million, organic revenue growth of over 8%, adjusted EBITDA rising 13.5% to $39.7 million, and adjusted EPS of $0.46 (up 24.3%). Packaging posted 3.3% organic sales growth excluding currency, driven by solid demand in dispensing and life sciences, while proactive material pre-buys ahead of tariff changes added about 100 bps of freight costs. Aerospace achieved a record quarter of nearly $90 million in sales, organic growth of ~27.8%, EBITDA conversion just over 22% (LTM 20%), and the GMT Aerospace acquisition contributed about $3 million in its first month. Specialty Products saw lower Q1 sales due to the AeroEngine divestiture and cylinder destocking, but North Cylinder order intake is rising and cost restructuring is expected to drive low-double-digit operating margins by year-end. Ongoing U.S.–China tariff uncertainty poses a potential headwind; TriMas is mitigating near-term exposure through strategic procurement actions and evaluating 12–18 month production relocations across its global footprint. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallTriMas Q1 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, greetings and welcome to the TriMas Corporation first quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please signal the operator by pressing star and zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Sherry Lauderback, TriMas investor relations. Please go ahead. Sherry LauderbackHead of Investor Relations at TriMas Corporation00:00:36Thank you, and welcome to TriMas Corporation's First Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. Participating on the call today are Thomas Amato, TriMas's President and CEO, and Teresa Finley, our Chief Financial Officer. We will provide our prepared remarks on our first quarter results and full-year outlook, and then we'll open the call up for questions. In order to assist with the review of our results, we have included today's press release and presentation on our company website at trimas.com under the Investor section. In addition, a replay of this call will be available later today by calling 877-660-6853 with a meeting ID of 137-53075. Before we get started, I would like to remind everyone that our comments today may contain forward-looking statements that are inherently subject to a number of risks and uncertainties. Sherry LauderbackHead of Investor Relations at TriMas Corporation00:01:34Please refer to our most recent Form 10-K and 10-Q to be filed later today for a list of factors that could cause our results to differ from those anticipated in any forward-looking statements. Also, we undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements except as required by law. We would also direct your attention to our website, where considerably more information may be found. In addition, we would like to refer you to the appendix in our press release or presentation for the reconciliations between GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures used during this call. Today, the discussion on the call regarding our financial results will be on an adjusted basis, excluding the impact of special items. With that, I will turn the call over to Tom Amato. Tom? Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:02:25Thank you, Sherry. Good morning and welcome to TriMas's First Quarter Earnings Call. Let's begin on slide three. We are pleased to announce that we are off to a great start to the year and have delivered strong results for the first quarter. Reflecting on our two largest segments, packaging and aerospace, which together represent nearly 90% of TriMas's revenues, we have experienced organic growth of 3.3% and 27.8%, respectively. Our aerospace business achieved another record sales quarter and continued momentum in driving conversion to just over 22% EBITDA, with LTM EBITDA now at 20%. This is commendable performance by the aerospace team and represents our steadfast commitment to continuous improvement, underpinned by a robust aerospace and defense market. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:03:20Within our packaging group, sales grew at an anticipated level when adjusted for currency, and our conversion rate was just slightly below the prior year quarter as we chose to secure certain materials ahead of changing tariff rates. Taking this proactive step resulted in incremental costs in the quarter, which otherwise would have resulted in an increased overall conversion rate as compared to the prior period. Importantly, as we begin Q2, while we navigate the global packaging market, we are continuing to see good demand for our dispensing product lines. We will continue to closely monitor this trend given emerging tariff-related dynamics. When considering the performance of our two largest segments, it is important to recognize TriMas's positive shift to a higher quality of segment-level earnings mix, which we believe underscores the value potential of TriMas. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:04:21With respect to our specialty product segment, after we normalized for the sale of Aero Engine, this segment now represents approximately 10% of TriMas's annual sales. In the first quarter of 2025, and similar to what we experienced at the end of 2024, we continue to believe that NOR cylinder is at the bottom of a destocking demand trough. Encouragingly, we are now beginning to see the rate of cylinder order intake steadily increase for the first time in many months. We believe this is providing the long-awaited green shoots, which we expect to build upon throughout the year as we have already taken significant cost restructuring actions to facilitate improved performance at a lower annualized sales base. I'll provide a more detailed overview of our segment results later on in the call. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:05:14Again, despite navigating recent challenges in some of our end markets due to geopolitical actions, we are very pleased to report a strong start to 2025. At this point, I will turn the call over to Teresa Finley, TriMas's Interim Chief Financial Officer and board member, to discuss TriMas's consolidated results. Teresa? Teresa FinleyInterim CFO at TriMas Corporation00:05:34Thank you, Tom. First, I'd like to give a shout-out to the TriMas team who have supported me during this transition, and especially those of you in the Detroit offices here who have spent some extra hours helping me deepen my knowledge of our businesses. We indeed have a talented team here at TriMas. It's a pleasure to participate in my first earnings call with such encouraging results. On that note, let's turn on to slide four. We have delivered solid results this quarter, with consolidated net sales increasing 6.4% year over year to $241.7 million. Excluding the impact of currency and acquisitions and dispositions, organic revenue growth was more than 8%. Teresa FinleyInterim CFO at TriMas Corporation00:06:20Acquisition-related sales growth in the quarter was $3.3 million, related to the February 2025 acquisition of GMT Aerospace, nearly making up for the loss of $3.6 million in sales related to the divestiture of Aero Engine completed in January. Sales growth was also partially offset by $3.8 million related to currency. Consolidated operating profit increased by more than 50% compared to Q1 2024, or $8.2 million, reflecting the strong revenue growth and expanded operating margin of 290 basis points driven primarily by our aerospace business. This resulted in a meaningful increase in adjusted EBITDA, which was up 13.5% to $39.7 million and a margin improvement of 100 basis points to 16.4%. Our adjusted earnings per share rose to $0.46, representing a 24.3% growth year over year. Turning to the balance sheet and our capital position, which is on slide five. Teresa FinleyInterim CFO at TriMas Corporation00:07:32We continue to manage a strong and flexible balance sheet supported by low-interest long-term debt with no maturities due until 2029. During the quarter, we successfully refinanced our senior secured revolving credit facility, extending its maturity to 2030. Net debt increased from the prior quarter due to our strategic acquisition of GMT Aerospace, increasing our net leverage to 2.7x. Lastly, first quarter free cash flow improved by $14.8 million compared to Q1 of 2024, thanks to both strong operational performance and disciplined working capital management. Overall, we believe our capital structure is well-positioned to support both near-term operations and future strategic investments. I'll now turn the call back to Tom to provide further details on segment performance and our outlook. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:08:31Thank you, Teresa. Let's turn to slide six, and I'll cover our segment results for the quarter. As noted previously, packaging's organic growth was 3.3% after adjusting for a negative currency effect. As we discussed in the prior earnings call, we anticipated a more modulated rate of growth in 2025 as compared to 2024, given the snapback in demand that occurred from the very low rate of demand in 2023. Within our packaging group's main product lines, we further experienced solid organic growth within our dispensing products, many of which are used in a variety of consumer goods markets. This is an important continuing trend as our packaging group has many innovative dispensing design and functionality solutions for our customers. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:09:19Additionally, we are beginning to see our life sciences product line sales increase as compared to the prior year period as the med tech end market generally worked through inventory destocking in 2024. Our closure product line was negatively impacted by lower demand in the quarter, which we believe was driven by elevated customer inventory levels entering 2025, most of which was impacted by inflationary and supply issues related to the food and beverage end market generally. Operating profit conversion rates for the quarter were slightly lower by 20 basis points than the prior year quarter. However, the most significant impact to the quarter resulted from incurring incremental costs related to a proactive decision to secure certain materials ahead of changing tariff rates. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:10:07This strategically defensive step resulted in approximately 100 basis points of extraordinary freight expense, which, if normalized for this effect, would have resulted in improved margin compared to the prior year quarter. As we continue to look forward in 2025, the most significant matter we are navigating, like most packaging companies, relates to a potentially changing economic environment related to tariffs. In the near term, we are working with suppliers and customers to best reduce exposure from this geopolitical effect. In the longer term, and if necessary, we are well-positioned to relocate production throughout various parts of the world given our global footprint. As mentioned on a previous earnings call, we have launched a new and larger facility in Vietnam, relocating from a smaller facility within the country. We expect this upgraded facility will serve as an important manufacturing hub to service Asia and other parts of the world. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:11:09With respect to imported goods from China, I would note that given our strategy over the past three years to regionalize production, we now only import about 5% of our total packaging sales from China. If the tariff rates implemented against China by the U.S. remain at the rate in effect currently, we believe we can dampen the near-term direct impact with actions already underway and, if necessary, accelerate our rate of relocating and insourcing other packaging products over the longer term. Overall, we remain encouraged by the progress made within our packaging group this quarter, as well as the longer-term outlook. At the same time, we are also working diligently to mitigate pending challenges created by geopolitical decisions. If we turn to slide seven, I'll review our aerospace segment. As noted, our aerospace group had a record sales quarter of nearly $90 million of revenue. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:12:08This was driven by continued increasing demand in the aerospace and defense market, improved throughput against a strong order book, commercial actions, and acquisition-related sales. Also, our operating profit conversion rate was up significantly by 650 basis points as compared to the prior year quarter, and with EBITDA margin rates now at pre-pandemic levels. This result was largely driven by our aerospace team's efforts over several quarters, ranging from extensive factory floor and operational excellence improvements to fact-based, data-driven purchasing and commercial actions. While we are pleased with the performance to start the year, we also remain excited about the long-term growth outlook given our backlog and continued commercial gains, some of which will benefit our growth trajectory in 2026 and beyond. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:13:04We also successfully closed on the purchase of GMT Aerospace, which we have renamed TAG for TriMas Aerospace Germany, and are currently working on the integration of that acquisition. For the month and a half of ownership, TAG contributed about $3 million in sales to the aerospace group. On behalf of the entire TriMas management team, we welcome the team at TAG to the TriMas aerospace family of businesses. If we now turn to slide eight, I'll cover specialty products. Specialty product sales were lower as compared to the prior year quarter by $7.9 million, of which approximately $3.6 million related to sales lost due to the divestiture of Aero Engine. The balance, just over $4 million, related to lower demand for cylinders in Q1 2025 as compared to Q1 2024. While those are the results, it's not the full story this quarter for NOR cylinder. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:14:03First, we are starting to see positive change in the rate of order intake, which we are monitoring closely and certainly hope it continues. Additionally, we have already restructured our cost base and anticipate that we can achieve a more normalized conversion rate on a lower sales base. Finally, in Q1 2025, we sold through inventory at a higher cost base as compared to Q1 2024 levels, a quarter when manufacturing costs were not fully adjusted and aligned with lower demand. That is not the case today, as our production costs are in much better balance with current market demand. In light of this dynamic, and as anticipated for the first half of 2025, we are in a period where we still need to work through absorbed manufacturing overhead from the prior year period. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:14:57Knowing that and given the factory floor actions we have already implemented, we are confident that operating profit conversion will begin to normalize as we move into the second half and would anticipate seeing an operating profit back in the low double-digit range by the end of the year. Importantly, as NOR begins to progress in its recovery, it is poised to make meaningful contributions to TriMas's overall performance levels. Let's now turn to slide nine. As highlighted in our press release this morning, we are reaffirming our outlook for 2025. While our primary near-term challenge relates to the current trade strategy from the US government, which continues to be a fluid situation, we do not yet have enough information to be able to predict the annual impact. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:15:46We also remain cautiously optimistic that as trade deals are announced with some countries, that result may provide inertia for other countries to begin to settle with the U.S. Before turning to Q&A, I would like to once again state that TriMas is comprised of great businesses with well-recognized brand names in the markets they serve. While each business is at a different phase in their respective cycle, all are well-positioned to deliver an outstanding future. Thank you, and with that, I'll turn the call back to Sherry. Sherry LauderbackHead of Investor Relations at TriMas Corporation00:16:19Thanks, Tom. At this point, we would like to open up the call to questions from our analysts. Operator00:16:26Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star and one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star and two if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. The first question comes from the line of Ken Newman from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Ken NewmanVP and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:17:06Hey, thanks. Morning, guys. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:17:08Morning, Ken. Ken NewmanVP and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:17:10Morning. Congrats on the solid quarter there. Just for clarity, Tom, I know you maintained your full-year sales and earnings guidance, but just to be clear, is there any change to the segment guidance that you provided last quarter as well? Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:17:28At this point, no, Ken. We just are, there's so much uncertainty right now that we're not adjusting that at this point. Ken NewmanVP and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:17:36Okay. That's helpful. Just trying to keep that—I understand that this is a fluid environment and there's a lot of change here, but I'm trying to make sure that we're not missing anything. I know you talked about the 100 basis points of impact from higher freight expense in packaging. How are you thinking about other investments or potential headwinds relative to packaging or any of the other segments as you try to position yourself to be a little bit more nimble through this environment? Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:18:11I think—so first of all, when I think of our ability to adjust to the issues that may arise from tariffs, in the near term, outside of the expense that we incurred in Q1, I do not see much more of these abnormal types of expenses. A lot of what we are doing is on the procurement and commercial front to mitigate exposure in the near term. If this becomes a prolonged situation with certain parts of the world, then we will have to make some decisions on where we manufacture. That would have certainly some cost impact, but I would expect that we are probably a couple, at least two to four months away from making those decisions. Ken NewmanVP and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:19:04Okay. If you were to make those decisions, what's the time frame in order to kind of realize some of this movement in production? Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:19:15Yeah, that's a great question. It does depend a bit, but for us, if we're moving operations predominantly in a packaging area where we have assembly, it could take a year, a little bit over a year, before we can relocate production from one part of the world to another. If it's something that is more focused on molding only, we can move that quicker. I would say it's typically about a year. Ken NewmanVP and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:19:47Got it. Okay. If I can just squeeze one more in here, and then I'll jump back into the queue. Look, the aerospace organic growth this quarter was very solid, right? I think almost 28% organic. If you're keeping the aerospace organic growth guide of low double digits for the year, it does imply a pretty sizable step down here from one-queue levels. Can you talk us through the order intake there, how to think about the cadence of growth there, and then also, how do I think about the operating leverage as we move through the year? Is 17% segment operating margins the right run rate to look at this business going forward? Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:20:30Yeah, I understand. I understand the point. We are coming off—we're going to start coming off a different quarterly base as we move through the year. I do expect some modest operating leverage gains as we move through the year as well within aerospace. At this point, Ken, we just want to be conservative overall as there's just so much uncertainty out there, but I understand the point. Ken NewmanVP and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:20:59Okay. Thanks. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:21:01Thank you. Operator00:21:03Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Hamed Khorsand from BWS Financial. Please go ahead. Hamed KhorsandPrincipal at BWS Financial00:21:12Hi, good morning. Just following up here, keep the conversation on aerospace. You acquired GMT, so you have more exposure to Europe. Then U.S., it's very well advertised now in the media about your competitor having the fire in the quarter. How is that going to play out as far as your capacity is concerned, pricing? You're talking being conservative, but your customers are basically saying that there's just no supply. Can you just reconcile the commentary that's out there? Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:21:54Yeah. Look, I mean, first of all, the dynamics you put forward are spot on. That does set a basis for a better outlook for us with respect to the aerospace business. We're very excited about the opportunity. We've been delivering on a quarter-over-quarter basis now for the past several quarters, and we expect to continue to drive that. With respect to adding the acquisition of GMT Aerospace, that improves our positioning with Airbus, and we're pretty excited about that. I think we talked about that a little bit on the last call. With respect to the unfortunate event at one of our competitors' manufacturing facilities, and clearly, we don't like to see that at all anywhere, that does obviously relate to some opportunities for us in the space, particularly where we have overlap. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:22:58We do not have a fantastic amount of overlap with what that particular plant manufactured, but there are certain product areas where we do. If we can help out our customers in any way, shape, or form for continuity of supply, trust me, we are all over that. Hamed KhorsandPrincipal at BWS Financial00:23:19Okay. Can you just reconcile why are you being conservative, though, given the dynamics that we're seeing? Adding to that, in Europe, you're seeing increased spending in defense right now. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:23:33Yeah. Look, as I mentioned to Ken, we understand the point. We just put our guidance out a few months ago, and we're in a period where it's a little bit uncertain. We would like to get through the second quarter and take a look at our segment forecasting. If we feel comfortable, we'll make some adjustments there. Overall, right now, we feel we're off to a great start. If it was not for the uncertainty in tariffs, we'd probably be guiding on an overall annual basis to the higher end of our range or beyond. Hamed KhorsandPrincipal at BWS Financial00:24:13Got it. Okay. On the packaging side, are you done with the CapEx investments you made last year? How is that going to look as far as the end market sales go and the order intake you're seeing now? Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:24:33I'm not sure we're ever done with CapEx investments because we continue to invest in capacity and adding to our factory floor to drive organic growth. I do think that the CapEx rate for packaging will be more moderate than it was in prior years. We're pretty keen on trying to sell products where we do have available capacity. That being said, there still is a demand for certain product lines where it behooves us to invest in capacity and make capital investments. I think the rate of spending will be lower in 2025 and beyond than it was over the past two or three years. Hamed KhorsandPrincipal at BWS Financial00:25:27Okay. Lastly, could you just talk about what drove these gains for you in beauty and personal care? Was it new product introductions? Was it taking share? Any color would be great. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:25:43It is a little bit of both. We are in certain parts of the world. We believe we are capturing some share, particularly in Latin America. We do have a product line which is a—it's not a large dose pump. It is a larger dose pump. It is 4 cc. That market, which the application is predominantly lotions, that end market is very strong right now. Remember, in 2023, it was extremely weak. We are seeing a lot of continued demand there. We believe our dispensing pump has some advantages over competitors, and we are selling that pump to some pretty fantastic CPG customers, and it is growing nicely around the world. Hamed KhorsandPrincipal at BWS Financial00:26:42Great. Thank you. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:26:44Thank you. Operator00:26:46Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Ken Newman from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Ken NewmanVP and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:26:55Hey, thanks for the follow-up here. Just one quick one. Tom, can you just talk a little bit about the sense that you're getting from where inventories are at your customers' distributor channels? We're getting a lot of questions, not just across all of our names that we cover, whether or not customers are showing any kind of pre-buying activity to get ahead of tariffs. I'm curious if you're seeing anything that would suggest that type of behavior. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:27:23Are you just talking generally across all product lines? Ken NewmanVP and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:27:27Correct. Yeah. Any color across the product lines would be great. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:27:31Yeah. I think there may have been—we're starting to see a little bit of that, I think, with respect to Norris Cylinder, believe it or not. Norris would be a positive recipient to tariffs given that the competitors are predominantly overseas or offshore. Within aerospace, I would say not really that the strong demand that we have for our products there is a function mostly of the strength in the aerospace and defense market right now. Within packaging, I guess there might be pockets or two with some customers in some parts of the world that would take advantage of some buying opportunities. There are some parts of some product lines that we have that were down compared to the prior year quarter. They came into the year, particularly in closures, for example. They came into the year where they were overstocked. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:28:30I wouldn't say there's anything too abnormal that we experienced in the first quarter on that front. Ken NewmanVP and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:28:37Okay. That's helpful. Maybe one last one for me. As it relates to the full-year sales guide, I understand everything is kind of fluid here, but from a pricing perspective, it does not sound like you pushed a lot of price to offset any kind of tariff impacts here in the first quarter. How are you thinking about organic pricing relative to volumes within that 4-6% range? Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:29:06Yeah. Good. That's a good question. Certainly, if tariffs hold much longer in Q2, we might see some impact to that in our year-end guide on the sales front. We'll know more at the end of Q2. That's all I can say. Ken NewmanVP and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:29:28Understood. Thanks. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:29:30Okay. Thank you very much. Any more questions? Operator00:29:36Ladies and gentlemen, as there are no further questions, I will now hand the conference over to the management for their closing comments. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:29:43Okay. Thank you very much for joining us on our earnings call. We look forward to updating you again next quarter. Have a great day. Operator00:29:51Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, the conference of TriMas Corporation has now concluded. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesSherry LauderbackHead of Investor RelationsTom AmatoPresident and CEOTeresa FinleyInterim CFOAnalystsKen NewmanVP and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital MarketsHamed KhorsandPrincipal at BWS FinancialPowered by Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) TriMas Q1 2025 Earnings FAQ Did TriMas beat earnings estimates for Q1 2025? TriMas (NASDAQ:TRS) reported earnings of $0.46 per share for Q1 2025, beating the consensus estimate of $0.43. The report was announced on Tuesday, April 29, 2025. What was TriMas' revenue for Q1 2025? TriMas reported revenue of $241.67 million for Q1 2025, against a consensus estimate of $235.41 million. Where can I read TriMas' Q1 2025 earnings call transcript? The full TriMas Q1 2025 earnings conference call transcript is published on this page, including prepared remarks and the analyst Q&A session, along with the participants who spoke on the call. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, greetings and welcome to the TriMas Corporation first quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please signal the operator by pressing star and zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Sherry Lauderback, TriMas investor relations. Please go ahead. Sherry LauderbackHead of Investor Relations at TriMas Corporation00:00:36Thank you, and welcome to TriMas Corporation's First Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. Participating on the call today are Thomas Amato, TriMas's President and CEO, and Teresa Finley, our Chief Financial Officer. We will provide our prepared remarks on our first quarter results and full-year outlook, and then we'll open the call up for questions. In order to assist with the review of our results, we have included today's press release and presentation on our company website at trimas.com under the Investor section. In addition, a replay of this call will be available later today by calling 877-660-6853 with a meeting ID of 137-53075. Before we get started, I would like to remind everyone that our comments today may contain forward-looking statements that are inherently subject to a number of risks and uncertainties. Sherry LauderbackHead of Investor Relations at TriMas Corporation00:01:34Please refer to our most recent Form 10-K and 10-Q to be filed later today for a list of factors that could cause our results to differ from those anticipated in any forward-looking statements. Also, we undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements except as required by law. We would also direct your attention to our website, where considerably more information may be found. In addition, we would like to refer you to the appendix in our press release or presentation for the reconciliations between GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures used during this call. Today, the discussion on the call regarding our financial results will be on an adjusted basis, excluding the impact of special items. With that, I will turn the call over to Tom Amato. Tom? Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:02:25Thank you, Sherry. Good morning and welcome to TriMas's First Quarter Earnings Call. Let's begin on slide three. We are pleased to announce that we are off to a great start to the year and have delivered strong results for the first quarter. Reflecting on our two largest segments, packaging and aerospace, which together represent nearly 90% of TriMas's revenues, we have experienced organic growth of 3.3% and 27.8%, respectively. Our aerospace business achieved another record sales quarter and continued momentum in driving conversion to just over 22% EBITDA, with LTM EBITDA now at 20%. This is commendable performance by the aerospace team and represents our steadfast commitment to continuous improvement, underpinned by a robust aerospace and defense market. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:03:20Within our packaging group, sales grew at an anticipated level when adjusted for currency, and our conversion rate was just slightly below the prior year quarter as we chose to secure certain materials ahead of changing tariff rates. Taking this proactive step resulted in incremental costs in the quarter, which otherwise would have resulted in an increased overall conversion rate as compared to the prior period. Importantly, as we begin Q2, while we navigate the global packaging market, we are continuing to see good demand for our dispensing product lines. We will continue to closely monitor this trend given emerging tariff-related dynamics. When considering the performance of our two largest segments, it is important to recognize TriMas's positive shift to a higher quality of segment-level earnings mix, which we believe underscores the value potential of TriMas. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:04:21With respect to our specialty product segment, after we normalized for the sale of Aero Engine, this segment now represents approximately 10% of TriMas's annual sales. In the first quarter of 2025, and similar to what we experienced at the end of 2024, we continue to believe that NOR cylinder is at the bottom of a destocking demand trough. Encouragingly, we are now beginning to see the rate of cylinder order intake steadily increase for the first time in many months. We believe this is providing the long-awaited green shoots, which we expect to build upon throughout the year as we have already taken significant cost restructuring actions to facilitate improved performance at a lower annualized sales base. I'll provide a more detailed overview of our segment results later on in the call. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:05:14Again, despite navigating recent challenges in some of our end markets due to geopolitical actions, we are very pleased to report a strong start to 2025. At this point, I will turn the call over to Teresa Finley, TriMas's Interim Chief Financial Officer and board member, to discuss TriMas's consolidated results. Teresa? Teresa FinleyInterim CFO at TriMas Corporation00:05:34Thank you, Tom. First, I'd like to give a shout-out to the TriMas team who have supported me during this transition, and especially those of you in the Detroit offices here who have spent some extra hours helping me deepen my knowledge of our businesses. We indeed have a talented team here at TriMas. It's a pleasure to participate in my first earnings call with such encouraging results. On that note, let's turn on to slide four. We have delivered solid results this quarter, with consolidated net sales increasing 6.4% year over year to $241.7 million. Excluding the impact of currency and acquisitions and dispositions, organic revenue growth was more than 8%. Teresa FinleyInterim CFO at TriMas Corporation00:06:20Acquisition-related sales growth in the quarter was $3.3 million, related to the February 2025 acquisition of GMT Aerospace, nearly making up for the loss of $3.6 million in sales related to the divestiture of Aero Engine completed in January. Sales growth was also partially offset by $3.8 million related to currency. Consolidated operating profit increased by more than 50% compared to Q1 2024, or $8.2 million, reflecting the strong revenue growth and expanded operating margin of 290 basis points driven primarily by our aerospace business. This resulted in a meaningful increase in adjusted EBITDA, which was up 13.5% to $39.7 million and a margin improvement of 100 basis points to 16.4%. Our adjusted earnings per share rose to $0.46, representing a 24.3% growth year over year. Turning to the balance sheet and our capital position, which is on slide five. Teresa FinleyInterim CFO at TriMas Corporation00:07:32We continue to manage a strong and flexible balance sheet supported by low-interest long-term debt with no maturities due until 2029. During the quarter, we successfully refinanced our senior secured revolving credit facility, extending its maturity to 2030. Net debt increased from the prior quarter due to our strategic acquisition of GMT Aerospace, increasing our net leverage to 2.7x. Lastly, first quarter free cash flow improved by $14.8 million compared to Q1 of 2024, thanks to both strong operational performance and disciplined working capital management. Overall, we believe our capital structure is well-positioned to support both near-term operations and future strategic investments. I'll now turn the call back to Tom to provide further details on segment performance and our outlook. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:08:31Thank you, Teresa. Let's turn to slide six, and I'll cover our segment results for the quarter. As noted previously, packaging's organic growth was 3.3% after adjusting for a negative currency effect. As we discussed in the prior earnings call, we anticipated a more modulated rate of growth in 2025 as compared to 2024, given the snapback in demand that occurred from the very low rate of demand in 2023. Within our packaging group's main product lines, we further experienced solid organic growth within our dispensing products, many of which are used in a variety of consumer goods markets. This is an important continuing trend as our packaging group has many innovative dispensing design and functionality solutions for our customers. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:09:19Additionally, we are beginning to see our life sciences product line sales increase as compared to the prior year period as the med tech end market generally worked through inventory destocking in 2024. Our closure product line was negatively impacted by lower demand in the quarter, which we believe was driven by elevated customer inventory levels entering 2025, most of which was impacted by inflationary and supply issues related to the food and beverage end market generally. Operating profit conversion rates for the quarter were slightly lower by 20 basis points than the prior year quarter. However, the most significant impact to the quarter resulted from incurring incremental costs related to a proactive decision to secure certain materials ahead of changing tariff rates. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:10:07This strategically defensive step resulted in approximately 100 basis points of extraordinary freight expense, which, if normalized for this effect, would have resulted in improved margin compared to the prior year quarter. As we continue to look forward in 2025, the most significant matter we are navigating, like most packaging companies, relates to a potentially changing economic environment related to tariffs. In the near term, we are working with suppliers and customers to best reduce exposure from this geopolitical effect. In the longer term, and if necessary, we are well-positioned to relocate production throughout various parts of the world given our global footprint. As mentioned on a previous earnings call, we have launched a new and larger facility in Vietnam, relocating from a smaller facility within the country. We expect this upgraded facility will serve as an important manufacturing hub to service Asia and other parts of the world. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:11:09With respect to imported goods from China, I would note that given our strategy over the past three years to regionalize production, we now only import about 5% of our total packaging sales from China. If the tariff rates implemented against China by the U.S. remain at the rate in effect currently, we believe we can dampen the near-term direct impact with actions already underway and, if necessary, accelerate our rate of relocating and insourcing other packaging products over the longer term. Overall, we remain encouraged by the progress made within our packaging group this quarter, as well as the longer-term outlook. At the same time, we are also working diligently to mitigate pending challenges created by geopolitical decisions. If we turn to slide seven, I'll review our aerospace segment. As noted, our aerospace group had a record sales quarter of nearly $90 million of revenue. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:12:08This was driven by continued increasing demand in the aerospace and defense market, improved throughput against a strong order book, commercial actions, and acquisition-related sales. Also, our operating profit conversion rate was up significantly by 650 basis points as compared to the prior year quarter, and with EBITDA margin rates now at pre-pandemic levels. This result was largely driven by our aerospace team's efforts over several quarters, ranging from extensive factory floor and operational excellence improvements to fact-based, data-driven purchasing and commercial actions. While we are pleased with the performance to start the year, we also remain excited about the long-term growth outlook given our backlog and continued commercial gains, some of which will benefit our growth trajectory in 2026 and beyond. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:13:04We also successfully closed on the purchase of GMT Aerospace, which we have renamed TAG for TriMas Aerospace Germany, and are currently working on the integration of that acquisition. For the month and a half of ownership, TAG contributed about $3 million in sales to the aerospace group. On behalf of the entire TriMas management team, we welcome the team at TAG to the TriMas aerospace family of businesses. If we now turn to slide eight, I'll cover specialty products. Specialty product sales were lower as compared to the prior year quarter by $7.9 million, of which approximately $3.6 million related to sales lost due to the divestiture of Aero Engine. The balance, just over $4 million, related to lower demand for cylinders in Q1 2025 as compared to Q1 2024. While those are the results, it's not the full story this quarter for NOR cylinder. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:14:03First, we are starting to see positive change in the rate of order intake, which we are monitoring closely and certainly hope it continues. Additionally, we have already restructured our cost base and anticipate that we can achieve a more normalized conversion rate on a lower sales base. Finally, in Q1 2025, we sold through inventory at a higher cost base as compared to Q1 2024 levels, a quarter when manufacturing costs were not fully adjusted and aligned with lower demand. That is not the case today, as our production costs are in much better balance with current market demand. In light of this dynamic, and as anticipated for the first half of 2025, we are in a period where we still need to work through absorbed manufacturing overhead from the prior year period. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:14:57Knowing that and given the factory floor actions we have already implemented, we are confident that operating profit conversion will begin to normalize as we move into the second half and would anticipate seeing an operating profit back in the low double-digit range by the end of the year. Importantly, as NOR begins to progress in its recovery, it is poised to make meaningful contributions to TriMas's overall performance levels. Let's now turn to slide nine. As highlighted in our press release this morning, we are reaffirming our outlook for 2025. While our primary near-term challenge relates to the current trade strategy from the US government, which continues to be a fluid situation, we do not yet have enough information to be able to predict the annual impact. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:15:46We also remain cautiously optimistic that as trade deals are announced with some countries, that result may provide inertia for other countries to begin to settle with the U.S. Before turning to Q&A, I would like to once again state that TriMas is comprised of great businesses with well-recognized brand names in the markets they serve. While each business is at a different phase in their respective cycle, all are well-positioned to deliver an outstanding future. Thank you, and with that, I'll turn the call back to Sherry. Sherry LauderbackHead of Investor Relations at TriMas Corporation00:16:19Thanks, Tom. At this point, we would like to open up the call to questions from our analysts. Operator00:16:26Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star and one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star and two if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. The first question comes from the line of Ken Newman from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Ken NewmanVP and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:17:06Hey, thanks. Morning, guys. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:17:08Morning, Ken. Ken NewmanVP and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:17:10Morning. Congrats on the solid quarter there. Just for clarity, Tom, I know you maintained your full-year sales and earnings guidance, but just to be clear, is there any change to the segment guidance that you provided last quarter as well? Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:17:28At this point, no, Ken. We just are, there's so much uncertainty right now that we're not adjusting that at this point. Ken NewmanVP and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:17:36Okay. That's helpful. Just trying to keep that—I understand that this is a fluid environment and there's a lot of change here, but I'm trying to make sure that we're not missing anything. I know you talked about the 100 basis points of impact from higher freight expense in packaging. How are you thinking about other investments or potential headwinds relative to packaging or any of the other segments as you try to position yourself to be a little bit more nimble through this environment? Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:18:11I think—so first of all, when I think of our ability to adjust to the issues that may arise from tariffs, in the near term, outside of the expense that we incurred in Q1, I do not see much more of these abnormal types of expenses. A lot of what we are doing is on the procurement and commercial front to mitigate exposure in the near term. If this becomes a prolonged situation with certain parts of the world, then we will have to make some decisions on where we manufacture. That would have certainly some cost impact, but I would expect that we are probably a couple, at least two to four months away from making those decisions. Ken NewmanVP and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:19:04Okay. If you were to make those decisions, what's the time frame in order to kind of realize some of this movement in production? Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:19:15Yeah, that's a great question. It does depend a bit, but for us, if we're moving operations predominantly in a packaging area where we have assembly, it could take a year, a little bit over a year, before we can relocate production from one part of the world to another. If it's something that is more focused on molding only, we can move that quicker. I would say it's typically about a year. Ken NewmanVP and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:19:47Got it. Okay. If I can just squeeze one more in here, and then I'll jump back into the queue. Look, the aerospace organic growth this quarter was very solid, right? I think almost 28% organic. If you're keeping the aerospace organic growth guide of low double digits for the year, it does imply a pretty sizable step down here from one-queue levels. Can you talk us through the order intake there, how to think about the cadence of growth there, and then also, how do I think about the operating leverage as we move through the year? Is 17% segment operating margins the right run rate to look at this business going forward? Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:20:30Yeah, I understand. I understand the point. We are coming off—we're going to start coming off a different quarterly base as we move through the year. I do expect some modest operating leverage gains as we move through the year as well within aerospace. At this point, Ken, we just want to be conservative overall as there's just so much uncertainty out there, but I understand the point. Ken NewmanVP and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:20:59Okay. Thanks. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:21:01Thank you. Operator00:21:03Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Hamed Khorsand from BWS Financial. Please go ahead. Hamed KhorsandPrincipal at BWS Financial00:21:12Hi, good morning. Just following up here, keep the conversation on aerospace. You acquired GMT, so you have more exposure to Europe. Then U.S., it's very well advertised now in the media about your competitor having the fire in the quarter. How is that going to play out as far as your capacity is concerned, pricing? You're talking being conservative, but your customers are basically saying that there's just no supply. Can you just reconcile the commentary that's out there? Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:21:54Yeah. Look, I mean, first of all, the dynamics you put forward are spot on. That does set a basis for a better outlook for us with respect to the aerospace business. We're very excited about the opportunity. We've been delivering on a quarter-over-quarter basis now for the past several quarters, and we expect to continue to drive that. With respect to adding the acquisition of GMT Aerospace, that improves our positioning with Airbus, and we're pretty excited about that. I think we talked about that a little bit on the last call. With respect to the unfortunate event at one of our competitors' manufacturing facilities, and clearly, we don't like to see that at all anywhere, that does obviously relate to some opportunities for us in the space, particularly where we have overlap. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:22:58We do not have a fantastic amount of overlap with what that particular plant manufactured, but there are certain product areas where we do. If we can help out our customers in any way, shape, or form for continuity of supply, trust me, we are all over that. Hamed KhorsandPrincipal at BWS Financial00:23:19Okay. Can you just reconcile why are you being conservative, though, given the dynamics that we're seeing? Adding to that, in Europe, you're seeing increased spending in defense right now. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:23:33Yeah. Look, as I mentioned to Ken, we understand the point. We just put our guidance out a few months ago, and we're in a period where it's a little bit uncertain. We would like to get through the second quarter and take a look at our segment forecasting. If we feel comfortable, we'll make some adjustments there. Overall, right now, we feel we're off to a great start. If it was not for the uncertainty in tariffs, we'd probably be guiding on an overall annual basis to the higher end of our range or beyond. Hamed KhorsandPrincipal at BWS Financial00:24:13Got it. Okay. On the packaging side, are you done with the CapEx investments you made last year? How is that going to look as far as the end market sales go and the order intake you're seeing now? Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:24:33I'm not sure we're ever done with CapEx investments because we continue to invest in capacity and adding to our factory floor to drive organic growth. I do think that the CapEx rate for packaging will be more moderate than it was in prior years. We're pretty keen on trying to sell products where we do have available capacity. That being said, there still is a demand for certain product lines where it behooves us to invest in capacity and make capital investments. I think the rate of spending will be lower in 2025 and beyond than it was over the past two or three years. Hamed KhorsandPrincipal at BWS Financial00:25:27Okay. Lastly, could you just talk about what drove these gains for you in beauty and personal care? Was it new product introductions? Was it taking share? Any color would be great. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:25:43It is a little bit of both. We are in certain parts of the world. We believe we are capturing some share, particularly in Latin America. We do have a product line which is a—it's not a large dose pump. It is a larger dose pump. It is 4 cc. That market, which the application is predominantly lotions, that end market is very strong right now. Remember, in 2023, it was extremely weak. We are seeing a lot of continued demand there. We believe our dispensing pump has some advantages over competitors, and we are selling that pump to some pretty fantastic CPG customers, and it is growing nicely around the world. Hamed KhorsandPrincipal at BWS Financial00:26:42Great. Thank you. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:26:44Thank you. Operator00:26:46Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Ken Newman from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Ken NewmanVP and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:26:55Hey, thanks for the follow-up here. Just one quick one. Tom, can you just talk a little bit about the sense that you're getting from where inventories are at your customers' distributor channels? We're getting a lot of questions, not just across all of our names that we cover, whether or not customers are showing any kind of pre-buying activity to get ahead of tariffs. I'm curious if you're seeing anything that would suggest that type of behavior. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:27:23Are you just talking generally across all product lines? Ken NewmanVP and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:27:27Correct. Yeah. Any color across the product lines would be great. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:27:31Yeah. I think there may have been—we're starting to see a little bit of that, I think, with respect to Norris Cylinder, believe it or not. Norris would be a positive recipient to tariffs given that the competitors are predominantly overseas or offshore. Within aerospace, I would say not really that the strong demand that we have for our products there is a function mostly of the strength in the aerospace and defense market right now. Within packaging, I guess there might be pockets or two with some customers in some parts of the world that would take advantage of some buying opportunities. There are some parts of some product lines that we have that were down compared to the prior year quarter. They came into the year, particularly in closures, for example. They came into the year where they were overstocked. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:28:30I wouldn't say there's anything too abnormal that we experienced in the first quarter on that front. Ken NewmanVP and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:28:37Okay. That's helpful. Maybe one last one for me. As it relates to the full-year sales guide, I understand everything is kind of fluid here, but from a pricing perspective, it does not sound like you pushed a lot of price to offset any kind of tariff impacts here in the first quarter. How are you thinking about organic pricing relative to volumes within that 4-6% range? Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:29:06Yeah. Good. That's a good question. Certainly, if tariffs hold much longer in Q2, we might see some impact to that in our year-end guide on the sales front. We'll know more at the end of Q2. That's all I can say. Ken NewmanVP and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:29:28Understood. Thanks. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:29:30Okay. Thank you very much. Any more questions? Operator00:29:36Ladies and gentlemen, as there are no further questions, I will now hand the conference over to the management for their closing comments. Tom AmatoPresident and CEO at TriMas Corporation00:29:43Okay. Thank you very much for joining us on our earnings call. We look forward to updating you again next quarter. Have a great day. Operator00:29:51Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, the conference of TriMas Corporation has now concluded. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesSherry LauderbackHead of Investor RelationsTom AmatoPresident and CEOTeresa FinleyInterim CFOAnalystsKen NewmanVP and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital MarketsHamed KhorsandPrincipal at BWS FinancialPowered by