NASDAQ:GRAL GRAIL Q1 2025 Earnings Report $80.77 +0.82 (+1.03%) Closing price 09/18/2026 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$80.96 +0.19 (+0.23%) As of 09/18/2026 07:31 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast GRAIL EPS ResultsActual EPS-$3.10Consensus EPS -$4.03Beat/MissBeat by +$0.93One Year Ago EPSN/AGRAIL Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$31.84 millionExpected Revenue$35.80 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$3.96 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AGRAIL Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2025Date5/13/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateTuesday, May 13, 2025Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsGRAIL's Q3 2026 earnings is estimated for Wednesday, November 11, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by GRAIL Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 13, 2025ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways First‐round data from the 40,000‐participant NHS Galleri registrational trial showed a substantially higher PPV than the 43% observed in Pathfinder, with 99.5% specificity and strong cancer signal origin accuracy, reinforcing Galleri’s multi‐cancer early detection performance. Q1 revenue reached $31.8 million (up 19% year-over-year) driven by 37,000 Galleri tests sold, net loss improved 51% to $106.2 million, and adjusted gross profit rose 19% to $14.3 million, with cash runway extended into 2028. New partnerships and integrations—including Athenahealth EHR ordering for 60,000 providers, Quest Diagnostics system integration, TRICARE coverage, and an Israel commercial launch—aim to broaden Galleri access and streamline ordering. Deployment of an enhanced, automated version of the Galleri test began in late 2024 to support higher volumes at scale and drive ongoing variable cost reductions. Key upcoming milestones include PATHFINDER II interim data in late 2025, FDA PMA submission in H1 2026, and final three-year results from the NHS Galleri trial by mid-2026. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallGRAIL Q1 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the GRAIL Q1 2025 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. Please be advised that this conference call is being recorded. GRAIL Investor Relations, please begin. Company Representative at GRAIL00:00:19Thanks, Operator, and thanks to everyone for joining us today. On today's call are Bob Ragusa, GRAIL's Chief Executive Officer; Aaron Freidin, Chief Financial Officer; Dr. Joshua Ofman, President; Sir Harpal Kumar, President, International Business in Biopharma; and Andy Partridge, Chief Commercial Officer. We'll be making forward-looking statements on this call based on current expectations. It's our intent that all statements other than statements of historical fact made during today's call, including statements regarding our anticipated financial results and commercial activity, will be covered by the safe harbor provisions for forward-looking statements contained in Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and Section 21 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended. Forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual events or results may differ materially from those projected or discussed. Company Representative at GRAIL00:01:12All forward-looking statements are based upon currently available information, and GRAIL assumes no obligation to update these statements. To better understand the risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ, we refer you to the documents that GRAIL files with the SEC, including the risk factor section in GRAIL's most recent quarterly report on Form 10-Q. This call will also include a discussion of GAAP results and certain non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted gross profit or loss, which are adjusted to exclude certain specified items. Our non-GAAP financial measures are intended to supplement your understanding of GRAIL's financials. Reconciliations of the non-GAAP measures to most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are available in the press release issued today, which is posted to our website, and with that, we turn to Bob. Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:02:00Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us to review Q1 results. We're making progress toward our vision of population-scale multi-cancer early detection and remain focused on developing the market. We plan to continue advancing Galleri through several key clinical and regulatory milestones that will help unlock broad access while maintaining our disciplined cost management. We are very pleased this afternoon to share positive top-line results from the prevalent round of screening in the 140,000-participant NHS-Galleri trial. NHS-Galleri is one of our two registrational studies, and as Harpal will describe shortly, these results continue to demonstrate strong Galleri performance in detecting multiple types of cancers with very low false positive rates. I'll take a moment to review key achievements in Q1 before turning it over to Harpal. Then Josh will provide a medical and scientific update, and Aaron will cover the financials. Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:03:00We are building on our unique position as the first mover in the multi-cancer early detection field with the only commercially available, clinically validated MCED test that has shown the ability to detect many types of cancer. GRAIL has sold more than 37,000 Galleri tests in Q1, and as of March 31, more than 325,000 Galleri tests have been prescribed by more than 14,000 healthcare providers since we launched Galleri commercially in 2021. We continue to drive provider and patient awareness of the MCED opportunity and Galleri's ability to detect cancer early when it is more amenable to treatment. Importantly, we are generating real-world evidence as our leading health systems and physician practices who have offered MCED as early Galleri adopters. Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:03:49We are proud of the demonstrated impact Galleri is having on patients' lives today, and I'm excited about our technology's potential to affect how and when we find cancer on a broad scale. We have made significant investments over time to optimize our technology and laboratory infrastructure, and we began the rollout of an enhanced version of the Galleri test in Q4 of last year. The workflow integrates a significant level of automation, among other efficiencies, to help support volume at scale and help achieve reductions in costs over time. Among recent business highlights, we announced yesterday a new partnership with Athenahealth intended to further streamline the Galleri test ordering process. Galleri's integration within Athenahealth's EHR platform, Athena Coordinator Core, can provide a more seamless ordering process for over 160,000 U.S. providers. Additionally, Galleri test results will be returned directly in the EHR. Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:04:53We remain on track for continued commercial growth in 2025, with expected volume growth from TRICARE coverage and Galleri's integration with the Quest Diagnostics ordering system. Additionally, we have commercially launched in Israel in partnership with Oncotest, which has a strong record in genomic test distribution. We are pleased to see the initial test orders within that region. Finally, we have initiated a new educational campaign called Generation Possible. Generation Possible's goal is to build public awareness of multi-cancer early detection, and we have partnered with Kate Walsh as a spokesperson to help further the message. The campaign underscores, at the patient level, the importance of taking control over your health, with the option to screen for many of the deadliest cancers before symptoms appear. More information about Generation Possible is available at genpossible.com. I'll turn it over to Harpal. Harpal KumarPresident of International Business and Biopharma at GRAIL00:05:54Thank you, Bob. I'm pleased to share high-level Galleri test performance results from the intervention arm of the prevalent screening round of our 140,000-participant three-year NHS-Galleri registrational trial. The prevalent screening round was the first round of blood draws, with one year of follow-up. We were pleased to see a substantially higher PPV than the 43% observed in the Pathfinder study. We also saw specificity and cancer signal of origin, or CSO, consistent with our Pathfinder study, which was an interventional return of results study evaluating the performance of Galleri. As a reminder, Galleri demonstrated specificity of 99.5% and a CSO accuracy of 88% in Pathfinder. There were no serious safety concerns in the NHS-Galleri prevalent screening round, also consistent with the Pathfinder study. As Bob mentioned, the top-line results from the prevalent screening round of the NHS-Galleri trial are very encouraging. Harpal KumarPresident of International Business and Biopharma at GRAIL00:07:08Results of all three years of the trial are expected in mid-2026. These longitudinal results will be the 1st clinical utility results of their kind in the MCED field. The NHS-Galleri trial was designed as three annual blood draws plus 12 months of follow-up in order to evaluate Galleri's ability to diagnose cancer at an earlier stage relative to standard of care. Cancer screening trials designed to show clinical utility are commonly conducted over three or more years using an annual screening interval. Because if screening is only conducted once, results can be influenced by the fact that the first screening round detects many prevalent late-stage asymptomatic cancers that have not yet been diagnosed. This and other factors are likely to cause final results of the three-year trial to differ from a review of the 1st round results. Harpal KumarPresident of International Business and Biopharma at GRAIL00:08:14NHS-Galleri is the largest and only randomized control trial of any MCED test, and the results thus far demonstrate strong Galleri performance. Together with England's NHS, we expect to publish detailed data from the ongoing NHS-Galleri trial, including the primary endpoint of an absolute reduction in the number of stage III and stage IV cancer diagnoses, as well as a number of test performance secondary endpoints, including episode sensitivity in mid-2026. With that, I'll now hand over to Josh. Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:08:54Thanks, Harpal, and hello, everybody. At GRAIL, we have implemented one of the largest clinical evidence programs in the MCED space, with more than 385,000 participants overall. More than 21,000 participants were included in the studies to support the development and launch of Galleri, and over 170,000 individuals are included in our registrational studies, which support our PMA submission to the FDA. Now, let's be clear: Galleri is working in the real world. We are detecting clinically meaningful cancers and early-stage cancers in asymptomatic adults. Our signal detection rate in commercial use is very much in line with what we expected based on our prior clinical studies. The majority of the early-stage cancers Galleri has found are in cancer types where a recommended screening test does not even exist, thereby allowing patients an opportunity to access more effective and even curative treatments. Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:10:03Now, we've described over time the key performance metrics, features, and capabilities for multi-cancer early detection tests, which, importantly, are quite different from those for single cancer screenings. Positive predictive value, or PPV, is a key metric which discerns among positive test results how many are true positives. Specificity, critically important, defines the false positive rate. A very low false positive rate helps reduce unnecessary workups and their associated costs and contributes to driving a high positive predictive value. Our demonstrated specificity at 99.5% equates to a false positive rate of 0.5%. Just to remind you, a 1% reduction in specificity to 98.5% would triple the false positive rate. That is, a 0.5% false positive rate would then become a 1.5% false positive rate, three times higher. Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:11:15Applying this to a real-world population of a million people tested, instead of there being only 5,000 false positives, there would now be 15,000. Such a reduced specificity would be expected also to result in a positive predictive value about half of what we see at a specificity of 99.5%, holding all other metrics constant. Finally, one of the most important features of a multi-cancer early detection test is the ability to localize that cancer signal. In multi-cancer early detection, CSO capability, or our cancer signal of origin prediction, is the key to guiding physicians to an appropriate and efficient workup to diagnosis. We consistently hear from physicians in the field that this is a critical component of any multi-cancer screening test. Even an FDA advisory committee on multi-cancer detection in November 2023 similarly emphasized the importance of a cancer signal of origin feature in any multi-cancer detection test. Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:12:27Our teams have continued to present evidence demonstrating Galleri's performance at renowned medical conferences. In April, at the AACR meeting, we shared a real-world dataset on Galleri's test performance and implementation in over 100,000 individuals. Galleri indeed identified cancers across this large intended-use population, including early-stage cancers and cancers without recommended screening. Generally, the test performance in this real-world setting remained consistent with what we've consistently observed in our prior clinical studies. Among other data, we also presented at AACR an analysis highlighting the importance of annual screening with an MCED test. Model data of post-test probabilities of cancers for individuals receiving MCED tests showed that individuals receiving a negative MCED test, and they have a reduced risk of late-stage cancer diagnosis for one year after the blood draw. This risk increases as the screening interval extends beyond one year. Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:13:41This study really supports the need for annual testing. Finally, I'd like to highlight that U.S. health systems are now publishing their own experiences with Galleri performance and implementation. A paper authored by the Mayo Clinic and published recently in March in the Journal of Primary Care and Community Health showed that Galleri effectively detected cancers in an asymptomatic population within their healthcare system and had a +73% predictive value. In other words, 73% of those with a positive Galleri test yielded a confirmed new cancer diagnosis. Now, the sample in this Mayo Clinic analysis was relatively small and had some different patient demographics compared to our prior trials. Importantly, this paper included the Mayo Clinic standardized approach to pursue a diagnostic workup following a positive cancer signal and our signal of origin prediction. The outlined steps are informed by a multidisciplinary expert council convened by the Mayo Clinic. Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:14:51They reviewed our Cancer Signal of Origin prediction and other data from our first Pathfinder trial. These recommendations continue to be updated, and they've really served as a centralized resource for the Mayo Clinic physicians. Now, additional health systems and clinicians are beginning to publish their experience with Galleri. Upcoming ASCO 2025 presentations of note include the implementation and evaluation of multi-cancer early detection testing at the Dana-Farber Cancer Institute, a retrospective analysis of clinical outcomes and diagnostic pathways, and an independent analysis by Alabama Cancer Care titled "A Clinical Review of a Novel Blood Test Use in Rural Alabama for Multi-Cancer Detection: Analyzing Methylation Patterns of Cell-Free DNA and Future Strategies." Now, looking forward, we anticipate performance data from the first 25,000 participants in our other registrational study, Pathfinder II, later this year. Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:15:59We also plan to conduct a bridging study between the version of Galleri used in our registrational trials, NHS-Galleri and Pathfinder II, to the updated version that we plan to submit to the FDA for pre-market approval. We plan to submit data from the prevalent screening round of the NHS-Galleri trial, the first 25,000 participants in the Pathfinder II study, and the bridging study as part of our pre-market approval application in the first half of 2026. I'll now hand it over to Aaron for a review of our financials. Aaron FreidinCFO at GRAIL00:16:36Thanks, Josh, and good afternoon, everyone. I'm pleased to present our results for the first quarter. First quarter results were strong, with revenue of $31.8 million, up $5.1 million, or 19%, as compared to the first quarter of 2024. Total revenue for the quarter is comprised of $29.1 million of screening revenue and $2.7 million of development service revenue. Development services revenue includes services we provide to biopharmaceutical and clinical customers, including support of clinical studies, pilot testing, research, and therapy development. We see continued demand for our Galleri test. It sold more than 37,000 tests in the 1st quarter, a period we have observed historically to be softer relative to the 4th quarter. Repeat test volumes have moved higher over time, including in early 2025. More than 20% of Galleri volume today is repeat testing. Aaron FreidinCFO at GRAIL00:17:31Screening revenue of $29.1 million in the 1st quarter was up 24% as compared with the 1st quarter of 2024. U.S. Galleri revenue was $28.7 million, up 22% compared to the 1st quarter last year, and we are on track relative to full-year guidance we shared in January of U.S. Galleri revenue growth of 20%-30%. We do not expect major impacts from tariffs on our current business, as our laboratory is located in the U.S. and a significant majority of our suppliers are located in and manufactured in the U.S. Net loss for the quarter was $106.2 million, an improvement of 51% as compared to the 1st quarter of 2024, and included amortization of intangible assets of $34.6 million and stock-based compensation of $16.2 million. Aaron FreidinCFO at GRAIL00:18:24Non-GAAP adjusted gross profit for the 1st quarter of 2025 was $14.3 million, an increase of $2.3 million, or 19%, as compared to the 1st quarter of 2024. We ended the quarter with a cash position of $677.9 million. In January, we guided that we expect cash burn for the full year 2025 to be no more than $320 million. This represents a decrease of more than 40% compared to 2024. Our cash runway extends into 2028, enabling us to achieve major planned clinical and regulatory milestones. I'll turn it back to Bob for concluding remarks. Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:19:04Thank you, Aaron. To close, we remain encouraged by the demand we are seeing today while we advance towards major milestones, seeking FDA approval of Galleri and pursuing broad reimbursement. We are very pleased to have taken additional strides in early 2025, including executing on the transition to the enhanced, more scalable version of Galleri, achieving TRICARE coverage, and enabling easier access to Galleri ordering through Quest Diagnostics and Athenahealth. Looking ahead, we expect to share interim data from Pathfinder II study in late 2025. That dataset will include the first 25,000 of the 35,000 participants enrolled. In 2026, key milestones include the completion of our modular PMA submission to the FDA in the first half and final results from our 140,000-participant NHS-Galleri study. With that, we'll turn the call over to Q&A. Operator, please go ahead. Operator00:20:04Thank you. At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please click on the raise hand button, which can be found on the black bar at the bottom of your screen. You may remove yourself from the queue at any time by lowering your hand. When it is your turn, you will hear your name called and receive a prompt to unmute. As a reminder, we are allowing analysts one question and one related follow-up today. We will wait one moment to allow the queue to form. Our first question will come from Subbu Nambi with Guggenheim Partners. Please unmute your audio and ask your question. Subbu NambiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Guggenheim Partners00:20:36Hey, guys. Thank you for taking my question. My first question is, back in December, the new version of Galleri was starting to be offered with expected short-term variable cost improvements. Can you quantify what those were in the quarter and what should we expect sequentially for the year? Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:20:55Aaron, do you want to take that one? Aaron FreidinCFO at GRAIL00:20:57Yeah. So thanks for the question. Yeah. As you said, we did launch at the end of last year. This year, for the first quarter, we're on that new version, and we'd expect to see margins continue to improve over the rest of the year as we increase scale and just work through the launch transition that we're going through this quarter. As you said, you'll see those variable cost improvements come over time as we move everything over to that, the new version completely. Subbu NambiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Guggenheim Partners00:21:29Got it. And then when setting guidance, you said you considered Quest and said legislation and TRICARE approval. How have those played out to your expectations in 1Q? And then is there any upside from here more than what you expected? Aaron FreidinCFO at GRAIL00:21:48Yeah. Early days on both Quest as well as TRICARE. We are seeing improved ordering from Quest providers that are going through the Quest portal. That is very encouraging. Again, early days on that. On Tricare, we are working through the contracting process. We are in coverage with Tricare, but working through the coverage process with the various contractors there. More to come on that later in the year. Subbu NambiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Guggenheim Partners00:22:24Got it. Thank you, guys. Operator00:22:27Our next question will come from Tejas Savant with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Tejas SavantAnalyst at Morgan Stanley00:22:35Hey, guys. Can you hear me okay? Aaron FreidinCFO at GRAIL00:22:38Yeah. Yes. Tejas SavantAnalyst at Morgan Stanley00:22:39Perfect. Maybe just one on the cash burn in the quarter. I guess, can you help us just think about the burn trajectory over the course of the next between now and year-end, how you're tracking towards that sort of $320 million or less in burn target that you guys had? Second, on sort of a related note, you've got a couple of other MCED launches coming up here, including one from an established brand in single cancer screening. How are you thinking about your OpEx levels, which you've done a good job sort of controlling so as to keep the burn down? Do you need to sort of think about reaccelerating it a little bit as some of those other offerings make it to market here? Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:23:26Yeah. Maybe, Aaron, you want to take the cash burn one first? Aaron FreidinCFO at GRAIL00:23:29Yeah, Tejas. Yeah. On the cash burn, Q1, I think we burned just under $90 million. The first quarter is the period that we pay out our annual bonus from the prior year, which is something, of course, it's not going to repeat in the future quarters. Also, as we talked about margins just in the last question, as we grow more and as margins improve, the cash burn will be in the $320 million range that we gave. Tejas SavantAnalyst at Morgan Stanley00:23:58Got it. Tejas SavantAnalyst at Morgan Stanley00:23:59And then. Tejas SavantAnalyst at Morgan Stanley00:24:00Yeah, go ahead. Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:24:01No, no, the OpEx and competitors. It is good, actually, to see others investing in multi-cancer early detection, as I think we have noted on this call, where we have been doing all the heavy lifting in terms of really educating the field on developing the market. We have made unprecedented investments, though, to set a very high bar for the field and demonstrated really strong specifications based on that. We will have to take a look and see from the announcements what actually transpires in terms of actual competitive approaches to see if that is going to have any OpEx impacts on us. Right now, I would say it is not clear that we have OpEx impacts from those launches, but it is something we will monitor over the next couple of quarters. Tejas SavantAnalyst at Morgan Stanley00:24:51Got it. Fair enough. A couple of quick cleanups on the data side, guys. The intervention arm from the NHS Galleri, that data that you just shared, how should we be thinking about the read across from that to your next year's final NHS Galleri readout, particularly in terms of that higher PPV you highlighted? Can you put a finer point on when in the 2nd half of the year we can expect Pathfinder II data? Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:25:20Yeah. On the second question, we're looking to mid-next year to have the readout on the full three-year study. We also have Harpal on the call today. Harpal may be answering the first part of that question. Harpal KumarPresident of International Business and Biopharma at GRAIL00:25:34Yeah, sure. Thank you for the question. Look, it's important just to reiterate that the results we've shared today are from the 1st screening round only. As we've tried to describe, it's really important that the first round of a screening program, what you typically see is that you are finding a lot of prevalent cancers in the population that have not yet been diagnosed. They are asymptomatic, but they can often be very late stage. As we go through to the 2nd round and 3rd rounds, and those prevalent cancers in the population have already been diagnosed, we would expect to see some differences in the 2nd round and 3rd round, as indeed has other screening programs in the past. We're not in a position today to be able to predict what those results will be. We will have those results in mid-2026. Tejas SavantAnalyst at Morgan Stanley00:26:38Fair enough. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it. Operator00:26:41Our next question will come from Doug Schenkel with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead. Doug SchenkelManaging Director and Head of Life Science & Diagnostic Tools at Wolfe Research00:26:48Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Thank you for taking my questions. I want to talk about two things: the BMJ publication, and then I want to talk about your cash management strategy, which is obviously top of mind for a lot of us. Starting on the BMJ publication, as you talked about in your prepared remarks, you demonstrated that annual MCED screening shows a higher projected impact on stage shift and mortality reduction relative to biennial testing. Keeping that in mind, and then also the fact that you've indicated that based on draft MCED legislation, that you would assume that ASPs would land in the $500-$550 level. My questions are, do you believe that the ASP would be unaffected by testing interval? Meaning, if there's more frequent testing, does the ASP need to come down? Doug SchenkelManaging Director and Head of Life Science & Diagnostic Tools at Wolfe Research00:27:42The second part of the question is, when you think about the cost to the system, if there was broad adoption of Galleri at that pricing level, and then you think about, by extension, how much it would cost to find a single cancer, if we think about the cost per cancer detected, including subsequent workups, and even a small number of false positives, would there be any concern in that scenario about the health economics, especially, again, for an annual test? Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:28:15Yeah. Josh, do you want to take that one? Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:28:17Sure. Sure. I think, as you noted, we have a lot of data now to suggest that based on cancer biology, Galleri should be administered on an annual basis if we want to find early-stage asymptomatic cancer based on the rates with which cancers are progressing, given everything we know on the biology of circulating DNA now. We think that's the right way to go. All of our pricing strategies and everything we've projected about ASP are based on annual testing. It's really too early to speculate on what would happen if we tested more frequently than that. From the health economic perspective, Doug, it's a great question. We know that with annual testing, even at population scale, at the prices that are in the market today, let alone the lower ASPs that you're commenting on, this is a highly cost-effective intervention. Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:29:18Compared to what we're spending today to diagnose a cancer, given everything that's going on with the false positive rates of current single cancer screening, the cost to diagnose a cancer with an MCED added to standard of care screening comes down substantially. The numbers needed to screen are much lower than what we've seen traditionally with some of the single cancer screening tests. Even today, the health economic data are very compelling from an efficiency and cost-effectiveness perspective. There obviously is a budgetary impact to payers by screening the population for any disease, but it's a high-value investment. Doug SchenkelManaging Director and Head of Life Science & Diagnostic Tools at Wolfe Research00:30:04Okay. Thank you for that. Good food for thought. The second topic is on cash management. Just keeping in mind your stock, at least last I checked, is up about 140% year-to-date. There are obviously questions about your ability to fund operations through the period where you would plausibly get FDA approval and CMS reimbursement. Again, acknowledging you guys are doing a good job moving towards trying to extend the runway as long as possible. There are still concerns you can get there, especially given where we are with the MCED bill and the path to FDA reimbursement and the approval and CMS reimbursement. In a best case, recognizing those developments are several years away and also recognizing the NHS Galleri readout, which is pretty critical, does not read out until next year. Doug SchenkelManaging Director and Head of Life Science & Diagnostic Tools at Wolfe Research00:31:03At that point, your cash position is going to be below half of what it is today. Things start to get a little bit tight. What was the calculus given all of these facts at the board level behind not raising money to de-risk the outlook? It seems like that would have been a very prudent move to allow you to maybe play offense a little more aggressively and to make the NHS readout next year less binary. Simply put, what's the thinking here? What's the rationale to not take some steps? What are we missing? Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:31:43Yeah. Doug, it's a good question. It's something we've obviously thought about. As we've said in previous discussions, we think that getting through some of these milestones de-risks the business and creates value for us. In the calculus, we're looking at getting through some of these major milestones and knowing that we have the cash runway to get through those was kind of the deciding factor towards waiting until things play out a little bit. Obviously, the stock, as you mentioned, stocks up a bit. That obviously pushes more in the favor of being able to do something. We still feel we have substantial cash runway, and we have relatively near-term milestones that will be value-creating. Aaron, anything? Aaron FreidinCFO at GRAIL00:32:31Yeah. I mean, I would just add, I mean, we're less than a year out from our spin as well. We've got just about $700 million on our balance sheet. Doug, I think it's something that we're going to continue to look at and work on and think about with our board. It's on our minds, but we're in a good position now in our view. Tejas SavantAnalyst at Morgan Stanley00:32:52Okay. Thanks, guys. Operator00:32:57Our final question will come from Kyle Mixon with Canaccord. Please go ahead. Kyle MiksonManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Canaccord00:33:02Thanks, guys, for the questions. Just on NHS first, just given the data here and the partnership and the study keep progressing, how are the recent conversations with NHS going? What do you expect they're going to do, I guess, with Galleri commercialization in the country following the full readout in 2026? Secondly, for maybe Harpal, on the PPV for the subset here that you provided, is that a modeled number, or is that a concrete metric? I just want to kind of understand how the number should be used and how much earlier higher it is compared to Pathfinder, for example. Thanks. Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:33:38Yeah. Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:33:39Yeah, Harpal. You want to take it? Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:33:40Yeah, sure. Thanks, Bob. Let me quickly take the second question first. When we say the PPV was substantially higher in the first round, that's a concrete number. We're not sharing what that number is, but we can say it's substantially higher than the 43% that we saw in Pathfinder. It's not a modeled number. With respect to the conversations with the NHS, I mean, just to say that we're in constant dialogue with the NHS and with the National Screening Committee in the U.K. and with the government in the U.K., they are clear that they want to wait to see final results from all three rounds of the study before they will make a decision as to if and when to roll out a screening program in the U.K. or in England, particularly. Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:34:33I can't give you anything more concrete than that at this point other than to say we're in constant dialogue. Aaron FreidinCFO at GRAIL00:34:39Hey, Harpal, maybe go through a little bit of why not reveal the numbers right now. Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:34:45Yeah, sure. I mean, it's important to reiterate that the NHS Galleri trial was designed as a three-year screening study. In other words, we do three rounds of screening. That's very common in screening trials and studies of screening because, for the reasons that I stated earlier on the call, if you only look at one round of screening, then what you'll typically find in that first round is a lot of prevalent asymptomatic cancers in the population, which can often be late stage but haven't yet been diagnosed. By going to a second and third round, you start to see what the impact of a, if you like, a more established or steady-state screening program might be. It's really important that we safeguard those upcoming readouts and the integrity of the trial as a whole. Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:35:37It's also really important that we safeguard the interest of the participants taking part in the trial. For all of those reasons, we're not sharing more detailed information at this stage, but we are now getting closer to having the final results middle of next year. We look forward to sharing all of those, both with all of you, but also with the NHS at that time. Kyle MiksonManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Canaccord00:36:01Great. That was super helpful. On the topic of repeat testing, it sounds like that metric remains stable. I think I heard 20% continues. When you think about repeat testing, what's an acceptable number at this point? Do you like 20%? How do you improve the stickiness and that recurring kind of revenue stream? How does movement in that number affect your modeling of ASP and customer acquisition cost over the medium term? Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:36:28Yeah. First of all, we're very pleased with above 20%. Given that we're generally not a reimbursed test, we think it compares very favorably to reimbursed tests in the market. The 20% mark, we expect to continue to be able to grow that. We need a little more time on the rebels to figure out exactly where that's going to go. Clearly, from a customer acquisition cost, that certainly helps the model being able to have that repeat base at that significant level. That is something we are factoring into our modeling. Kyle MiksonManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Canaccord00:37:09Great. Thanks, Bob. Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:37:10Randy, any? Operator00:37:15Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to GRAIL for closing remarks. Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:37:22Thank you, everyone, for joining today's call. Operator00:37:29Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the call. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the GRAIL Q1 2025 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. Please be advised that this conference call is being recorded. GRAIL Investor Relations, please begin. Company Representative at GRAIL00:00:19Thanks, Operator, and thanks to everyone for joining us today. On today's call are Bob Ragusa, GRAIL's Chief Executive Officer; Aaron Freidin, Chief Financial Officer; Dr. Joshua Ofman, President; Sir Harpal Kumar, President, International Business in Biopharma; and Andy Partridge, Chief Commercial Officer. We'll be making forward-looking statements on this call based on current expectations. It's our intent that all statements other than statements of historical fact made during today's call, including statements regarding our anticipated financial results and commercial activity, will be covered by the safe harbor provisions for forward-looking statements contained in Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and Section 21 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended. Forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual events or results may differ materially from those projected or discussed. Company Representative at GRAIL00:01:12All forward-looking statements are based upon currently available information, and GRAIL assumes no obligation to update these statements. To better understand the risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ, we refer you to the documents that GRAIL files with the SEC, including the risk factor section in GRAIL's most recent quarterly report on Form 10-Q. This call will also include a discussion of GAAP results and certain non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted gross profit or loss, which are adjusted to exclude certain specified items. Our non-GAAP financial measures are intended to supplement your understanding of GRAIL's financials. Reconciliations of the non-GAAP measures to most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are available in the press release issued today, which is posted to our website, and with that, we turn to Bob. Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:02:00Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us to review Q1 results. We're making progress toward our vision of population-scale multi-cancer early detection and remain focused on developing the market. We plan to continue advancing Galleri through several key clinical and regulatory milestones that will help unlock broad access while maintaining our disciplined cost management. We are very pleased this afternoon to share positive top-line results from the prevalent round of screening in the 140,000-participant NHS-Galleri trial. NHS-Galleri is one of our two registrational studies, and as Harpal will describe shortly, these results continue to demonstrate strong Galleri performance in detecting multiple types of cancers with very low false positive rates. I'll take a moment to review key achievements in Q1 before turning it over to Harpal. Then Josh will provide a medical and scientific update, and Aaron will cover the financials. Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:03:00We are building on our unique position as the first mover in the multi-cancer early detection field with the only commercially available, clinically validated MCED test that has shown the ability to detect many types of cancer. GRAIL has sold more than 37,000 Galleri tests in Q1, and as of March 31, more than 325,000 Galleri tests have been prescribed by more than 14,000 healthcare providers since we launched Galleri commercially in 2021. We continue to drive provider and patient awareness of the MCED opportunity and Galleri's ability to detect cancer early when it is more amenable to treatment. Importantly, we are generating real-world evidence as our leading health systems and physician practices who have offered MCED as early Galleri adopters. Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:03:49We are proud of the demonstrated impact Galleri is having on patients' lives today, and I'm excited about our technology's potential to affect how and when we find cancer on a broad scale. We have made significant investments over time to optimize our technology and laboratory infrastructure, and we began the rollout of an enhanced version of the Galleri test in Q4 of last year. The workflow integrates a significant level of automation, among other efficiencies, to help support volume at scale and help achieve reductions in costs over time. Among recent business highlights, we announced yesterday a new partnership with Athenahealth intended to further streamline the Galleri test ordering process. Galleri's integration within Athenahealth's EHR platform, Athena Coordinator Core, can provide a more seamless ordering process for over 160,000 U.S. providers. Additionally, Galleri test results will be returned directly in the EHR. Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:04:53We remain on track for continued commercial growth in 2025, with expected volume growth from TRICARE coverage and Galleri's integration with the Quest Diagnostics ordering system. Additionally, we have commercially launched in Israel in partnership with Oncotest, which has a strong record in genomic test distribution. We are pleased to see the initial test orders within that region. Finally, we have initiated a new educational campaign called Generation Possible. Generation Possible's goal is to build public awareness of multi-cancer early detection, and we have partnered with Kate Walsh as a spokesperson to help further the message. The campaign underscores, at the patient level, the importance of taking control over your health, with the option to screen for many of the deadliest cancers before symptoms appear. More information about Generation Possible is available at genpossible.com. I'll turn it over to Harpal. Harpal KumarPresident of International Business and Biopharma at GRAIL00:05:54Thank you, Bob. I'm pleased to share high-level Galleri test performance results from the intervention arm of the prevalent screening round of our 140,000-participant three-year NHS-Galleri registrational trial. The prevalent screening round was the first round of blood draws, with one year of follow-up. We were pleased to see a substantially higher PPV than the 43% observed in the Pathfinder study. We also saw specificity and cancer signal of origin, or CSO, consistent with our Pathfinder study, which was an interventional return of results study evaluating the performance of Galleri. As a reminder, Galleri demonstrated specificity of 99.5% and a CSO accuracy of 88% in Pathfinder. There were no serious safety concerns in the NHS-Galleri prevalent screening round, also consistent with the Pathfinder study. As Bob mentioned, the top-line results from the prevalent screening round of the NHS-Galleri trial are very encouraging. Harpal KumarPresident of International Business and Biopharma at GRAIL00:07:08Results of all three years of the trial are expected in mid-2026. These longitudinal results will be the 1st clinical utility results of their kind in the MCED field. The NHS-Galleri trial was designed as three annual blood draws plus 12 months of follow-up in order to evaluate Galleri's ability to diagnose cancer at an earlier stage relative to standard of care. Cancer screening trials designed to show clinical utility are commonly conducted over three or more years using an annual screening interval. Because if screening is only conducted once, results can be influenced by the fact that the first screening round detects many prevalent late-stage asymptomatic cancers that have not yet been diagnosed. This and other factors are likely to cause final results of the three-year trial to differ from a review of the 1st round results. Harpal KumarPresident of International Business and Biopharma at GRAIL00:08:14NHS-Galleri is the largest and only randomized control trial of any MCED test, and the results thus far demonstrate strong Galleri performance. Together with England's NHS, we expect to publish detailed data from the ongoing NHS-Galleri trial, including the primary endpoint of an absolute reduction in the number of stage III and stage IV cancer diagnoses, as well as a number of test performance secondary endpoints, including episode sensitivity in mid-2026. With that, I'll now hand over to Josh. Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:08:54Thanks, Harpal, and hello, everybody. At GRAIL, we have implemented one of the largest clinical evidence programs in the MCED space, with more than 385,000 participants overall. More than 21,000 participants were included in the studies to support the development and launch of Galleri, and over 170,000 individuals are included in our registrational studies, which support our PMA submission to the FDA. Now, let's be clear: Galleri is working in the real world. We are detecting clinically meaningful cancers and early-stage cancers in asymptomatic adults. Our signal detection rate in commercial use is very much in line with what we expected based on our prior clinical studies. The majority of the early-stage cancers Galleri has found are in cancer types where a recommended screening test does not even exist, thereby allowing patients an opportunity to access more effective and even curative treatments. Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:10:03Now, we've described over time the key performance metrics, features, and capabilities for multi-cancer early detection tests, which, importantly, are quite different from those for single cancer screenings. Positive predictive value, or PPV, is a key metric which discerns among positive test results how many are true positives. Specificity, critically important, defines the false positive rate. A very low false positive rate helps reduce unnecessary workups and their associated costs and contributes to driving a high positive predictive value. Our demonstrated specificity at 99.5% equates to a false positive rate of 0.5%. Just to remind you, a 1% reduction in specificity to 98.5% would triple the false positive rate. That is, a 0.5% false positive rate would then become a 1.5% false positive rate, three times higher. Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:11:15Applying this to a real-world population of a million people tested, instead of there being only 5,000 false positives, there would now be 15,000. Such a reduced specificity would be expected also to result in a positive predictive value about half of what we see at a specificity of 99.5%, holding all other metrics constant. Finally, one of the most important features of a multi-cancer early detection test is the ability to localize that cancer signal. In multi-cancer early detection, CSO capability, or our cancer signal of origin prediction, is the key to guiding physicians to an appropriate and efficient workup to diagnosis. We consistently hear from physicians in the field that this is a critical component of any multi-cancer screening test. Even an FDA advisory committee on multi-cancer detection in November 2023 similarly emphasized the importance of a cancer signal of origin feature in any multi-cancer detection test. Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:12:27Our teams have continued to present evidence demonstrating Galleri's performance at renowned medical conferences. In April, at the AACR meeting, we shared a real-world dataset on Galleri's test performance and implementation in over 100,000 individuals. Galleri indeed identified cancers across this large intended-use population, including early-stage cancers and cancers without recommended screening. Generally, the test performance in this real-world setting remained consistent with what we've consistently observed in our prior clinical studies. Among other data, we also presented at AACR an analysis highlighting the importance of annual screening with an MCED test. Model data of post-test probabilities of cancers for individuals receiving MCED tests showed that individuals receiving a negative MCED test, and they have a reduced risk of late-stage cancer diagnosis for one year after the blood draw. This risk increases as the screening interval extends beyond one year. Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:13:41This study really supports the need for annual testing. Finally, I'd like to highlight that U.S. health systems are now publishing their own experiences with Galleri performance and implementation. A paper authored by the Mayo Clinic and published recently in March in the Journal of Primary Care and Community Health showed that Galleri effectively detected cancers in an asymptomatic population within their healthcare system and had a +73% predictive value. In other words, 73% of those with a positive Galleri test yielded a confirmed new cancer diagnosis. Now, the sample in this Mayo Clinic analysis was relatively small and had some different patient demographics compared to our prior trials. Importantly, this paper included the Mayo Clinic standardized approach to pursue a diagnostic workup following a positive cancer signal and our signal of origin prediction. The outlined steps are informed by a multidisciplinary expert council convened by the Mayo Clinic. Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:14:51They reviewed our Cancer Signal of Origin prediction and other data from our first Pathfinder trial. These recommendations continue to be updated, and they've really served as a centralized resource for the Mayo Clinic physicians. Now, additional health systems and clinicians are beginning to publish their experience with Galleri. Upcoming ASCO 2025 presentations of note include the implementation and evaluation of multi-cancer early detection testing at the Dana-Farber Cancer Institute, a retrospective analysis of clinical outcomes and diagnostic pathways, and an independent analysis by Alabama Cancer Care titled "A Clinical Review of a Novel Blood Test Use in Rural Alabama for Multi-Cancer Detection: Analyzing Methylation Patterns of Cell-Free DNA and Future Strategies." Now, looking forward, we anticipate performance data from the first 25,000 participants in our other registrational study, Pathfinder II, later this year. Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:15:59We also plan to conduct a bridging study between the version of Galleri used in our registrational trials, NHS-Galleri and Pathfinder II, to the updated version that we plan to submit to the FDA for pre-market approval. We plan to submit data from the prevalent screening round of the NHS-Galleri trial, the first 25,000 participants in the Pathfinder II study, and the bridging study as part of our pre-market approval application in the first half of 2026. I'll now hand it over to Aaron for a review of our financials. Aaron FreidinCFO at GRAIL00:16:36Thanks, Josh, and good afternoon, everyone. I'm pleased to present our results for the first quarter. First quarter results were strong, with revenue of $31.8 million, up $5.1 million, or 19%, as compared to the first quarter of 2024. Total revenue for the quarter is comprised of $29.1 million of screening revenue and $2.7 million of development service revenue. Development services revenue includes services we provide to biopharmaceutical and clinical customers, including support of clinical studies, pilot testing, research, and therapy development. We see continued demand for our Galleri test. It sold more than 37,000 tests in the 1st quarter, a period we have observed historically to be softer relative to the 4th quarter. Repeat test volumes have moved higher over time, including in early 2025. More than 20% of Galleri volume today is repeat testing. Aaron FreidinCFO at GRAIL00:17:31Screening revenue of $29.1 million in the 1st quarter was up 24% as compared with the 1st quarter of 2024. U.S. Galleri revenue was $28.7 million, up 22% compared to the 1st quarter last year, and we are on track relative to full-year guidance we shared in January of U.S. Galleri revenue growth of 20%-30%. We do not expect major impacts from tariffs on our current business, as our laboratory is located in the U.S. and a significant majority of our suppliers are located in and manufactured in the U.S. Net loss for the quarter was $106.2 million, an improvement of 51% as compared to the 1st quarter of 2024, and included amortization of intangible assets of $34.6 million and stock-based compensation of $16.2 million. Aaron FreidinCFO at GRAIL00:18:24Non-GAAP adjusted gross profit for the 1st quarter of 2025 was $14.3 million, an increase of $2.3 million, or 19%, as compared to the 1st quarter of 2024. We ended the quarter with a cash position of $677.9 million. In January, we guided that we expect cash burn for the full year 2025 to be no more than $320 million. This represents a decrease of more than 40% compared to 2024. Our cash runway extends into 2028, enabling us to achieve major planned clinical and regulatory milestones. I'll turn it back to Bob for concluding remarks. Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:19:04Thank you, Aaron. To close, we remain encouraged by the demand we are seeing today while we advance towards major milestones, seeking FDA approval of Galleri and pursuing broad reimbursement. We are very pleased to have taken additional strides in early 2025, including executing on the transition to the enhanced, more scalable version of Galleri, achieving TRICARE coverage, and enabling easier access to Galleri ordering through Quest Diagnostics and Athenahealth. Looking ahead, we expect to share interim data from Pathfinder II study in late 2025. That dataset will include the first 25,000 of the 35,000 participants enrolled. In 2026, key milestones include the completion of our modular PMA submission to the FDA in the first half and final results from our 140,000-participant NHS-Galleri study. With that, we'll turn the call over to Q&A. Operator, please go ahead. Operator00:20:04Thank you. At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please click on the raise hand button, which can be found on the black bar at the bottom of your screen. You may remove yourself from the queue at any time by lowering your hand. When it is your turn, you will hear your name called and receive a prompt to unmute. As a reminder, we are allowing analysts one question and one related follow-up today. We will wait one moment to allow the queue to form. Our first question will come from Subbu Nambi with Guggenheim Partners. Please unmute your audio and ask your question. Subbu NambiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Guggenheim Partners00:20:36Hey, guys. Thank you for taking my question. My first question is, back in December, the new version of Galleri was starting to be offered with expected short-term variable cost improvements. Can you quantify what those were in the quarter and what should we expect sequentially for the year? Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:20:55Aaron, do you want to take that one? Aaron FreidinCFO at GRAIL00:20:57Yeah. So thanks for the question. Yeah. As you said, we did launch at the end of last year. This year, for the first quarter, we're on that new version, and we'd expect to see margins continue to improve over the rest of the year as we increase scale and just work through the launch transition that we're going through this quarter. As you said, you'll see those variable cost improvements come over time as we move everything over to that, the new version completely. Subbu NambiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Guggenheim Partners00:21:29Got it. And then when setting guidance, you said you considered Quest and said legislation and TRICARE approval. How have those played out to your expectations in 1Q? And then is there any upside from here more than what you expected? Aaron FreidinCFO at GRAIL00:21:48Yeah. Early days on both Quest as well as TRICARE. We are seeing improved ordering from Quest providers that are going through the Quest portal. That is very encouraging. Again, early days on that. On Tricare, we are working through the contracting process. We are in coverage with Tricare, but working through the coverage process with the various contractors there. More to come on that later in the year. Subbu NambiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Guggenheim Partners00:22:24Got it. Thank you, guys. Operator00:22:27Our next question will come from Tejas Savant with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Tejas SavantAnalyst at Morgan Stanley00:22:35Hey, guys. Can you hear me okay? Aaron FreidinCFO at GRAIL00:22:38Yeah. Yes. Tejas SavantAnalyst at Morgan Stanley00:22:39Perfect. Maybe just one on the cash burn in the quarter. I guess, can you help us just think about the burn trajectory over the course of the next between now and year-end, how you're tracking towards that sort of $320 million or less in burn target that you guys had? Second, on sort of a related note, you've got a couple of other MCED launches coming up here, including one from an established brand in single cancer screening. How are you thinking about your OpEx levels, which you've done a good job sort of controlling so as to keep the burn down? Do you need to sort of think about reaccelerating it a little bit as some of those other offerings make it to market here? Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:23:26Yeah. Maybe, Aaron, you want to take the cash burn one first? Aaron FreidinCFO at GRAIL00:23:29Yeah, Tejas. Yeah. On the cash burn, Q1, I think we burned just under $90 million. The first quarter is the period that we pay out our annual bonus from the prior year, which is something, of course, it's not going to repeat in the future quarters. Also, as we talked about margins just in the last question, as we grow more and as margins improve, the cash burn will be in the $320 million range that we gave. Tejas SavantAnalyst at Morgan Stanley00:23:58Got it. Tejas SavantAnalyst at Morgan Stanley00:23:59And then. Tejas SavantAnalyst at Morgan Stanley00:24:00Yeah, go ahead. Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:24:01No, no, the OpEx and competitors. It is good, actually, to see others investing in multi-cancer early detection, as I think we have noted on this call, where we have been doing all the heavy lifting in terms of really educating the field on developing the market. We have made unprecedented investments, though, to set a very high bar for the field and demonstrated really strong specifications based on that. We will have to take a look and see from the announcements what actually transpires in terms of actual competitive approaches to see if that is going to have any OpEx impacts on us. Right now, I would say it is not clear that we have OpEx impacts from those launches, but it is something we will monitor over the next couple of quarters. Tejas SavantAnalyst at Morgan Stanley00:24:51Got it. Fair enough. A couple of quick cleanups on the data side, guys. The intervention arm from the NHS Galleri, that data that you just shared, how should we be thinking about the read across from that to your next year's final NHS Galleri readout, particularly in terms of that higher PPV you highlighted? Can you put a finer point on when in the 2nd half of the year we can expect Pathfinder II data? Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:25:20Yeah. On the second question, we're looking to mid-next year to have the readout on the full three-year study. We also have Harpal on the call today. Harpal may be answering the first part of that question. Harpal KumarPresident of International Business and Biopharma at GRAIL00:25:34Yeah, sure. Thank you for the question. Look, it's important just to reiterate that the results we've shared today are from the 1st screening round only. As we've tried to describe, it's really important that the first round of a screening program, what you typically see is that you are finding a lot of prevalent cancers in the population that have not yet been diagnosed. They are asymptomatic, but they can often be very late stage. As we go through to the 2nd round and 3rd rounds, and those prevalent cancers in the population have already been diagnosed, we would expect to see some differences in the 2nd round and 3rd round, as indeed has other screening programs in the past. We're not in a position today to be able to predict what those results will be. We will have those results in mid-2026. Tejas SavantAnalyst at Morgan Stanley00:26:38Fair enough. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it. Operator00:26:41Our next question will come from Doug Schenkel with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead. Doug SchenkelManaging Director and Head of Life Science & Diagnostic Tools at Wolfe Research00:26:48Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Thank you for taking my questions. I want to talk about two things: the BMJ publication, and then I want to talk about your cash management strategy, which is obviously top of mind for a lot of us. Starting on the BMJ publication, as you talked about in your prepared remarks, you demonstrated that annual MCED screening shows a higher projected impact on stage shift and mortality reduction relative to biennial testing. Keeping that in mind, and then also the fact that you've indicated that based on draft MCED legislation, that you would assume that ASPs would land in the $500-$550 level. My questions are, do you believe that the ASP would be unaffected by testing interval? Meaning, if there's more frequent testing, does the ASP need to come down? Doug SchenkelManaging Director and Head of Life Science & Diagnostic Tools at Wolfe Research00:27:42The second part of the question is, when you think about the cost to the system, if there was broad adoption of Galleri at that pricing level, and then you think about, by extension, how much it would cost to find a single cancer, if we think about the cost per cancer detected, including subsequent workups, and even a small number of false positives, would there be any concern in that scenario about the health economics, especially, again, for an annual test? Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:28:15Yeah. Josh, do you want to take that one? Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:28:17Sure. Sure. I think, as you noted, we have a lot of data now to suggest that based on cancer biology, Galleri should be administered on an annual basis if we want to find early-stage asymptomatic cancer based on the rates with which cancers are progressing, given everything we know on the biology of circulating DNA now. We think that's the right way to go. All of our pricing strategies and everything we've projected about ASP are based on annual testing. It's really too early to speculate on what would happen if we tested more frequently than that. From the health economic perspective, Doug, it's a great question. We know that with annual testing, even at population scale, at the prices that are in the market today, let alone the lower ASPs that you're commenting on, this is a highly cost-effective intervention. Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:29:18Compared to what we're spending today to diagnose a cancer, given everything that's going on with the false positive rates of current single cancer screening, the cost to diagnose a cancer with an MCED added to standard of care screening comes down substantially. The numbers needed to screen are much lower than what we've seen traditionally with some of the single cancer screening tests. Even today, the health economic data are very compelling from an efficiency and cost-effectiveness perspective. There obviously is a budgetary impact to payers by screening the population for any disease, but it's a high-value investment. Doug SchenkelManaging Director and Head of Life Science & Diagnostic Tools at Wolfe Research00:30:04Okay. Thank you for that. Good food for thought. The second topic is on cash management. Just keeping in mind your stock, at least last I checked, is up about 140% year-to-date. There are obviously questions about your ability to fund operations through the period where you would plausibly get FDA approval and CMS reimbursement. Again, acknowledging you guys are doing a good job moving towards trying to extend the runway as long as possible. There are still concerns you can get there, especially given where we are with the MCED bill and the path to FDA reimbursement and the approval and CMS reimbursement. In a best case, recognizing those developments are several years away and also recognizing the NHS Galleri readout, which is pretty critical, does not read out until next year. Doug SchenkelManaging Director and Head of Life Science & Diagnostic Tools at Wolfe Research00:31:03At that point, your cash position is going to be below half of what it is today. Things start to get a little bit tight. What was the calculus given all of these facts at the board level behind not raising money to de-risk the outlook? It seems like that would have been a very prudent move to allow you to maybe play offense a little more aggressively and to make the NHS readout next year less binary. Simply put, what's the thinking here? What's the rationale to not take some steps? What are we missing? Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:31:43Yeah. Doug, it's a good question. It's something we've obviously thought about. As we've said in previous discussions, we think that getting through some of these milestones de-risks the business and creates value for us. In the calculus, we're looking at getting through some of these major milestones and knowing that we have the cash runway to get through those was kind of the deciding factor towards waiting until things play out a little bit. Obviously, the stock, as you mentioned, stocks up a bit. That obviously pushes more in the favor of being able to do something. We still feel we have substantial cash runway, and we have relatively near-term milestones that will be value-creating. Aaron, anything? Aaron FreidinCFO at GRAIL00:32:31Yeah. I mean, I would just add, I mean, we're less than a year out from our spin as well. We've got just about $700 million on our balance sheet. Doug, I think it's something that we're going to continue to look at and work on and think about with our board. It's on our minds, but we're in a good position now in our view. Tejas SavantAnalyst at Morgan Stanley00:32:52Okay. Thanks, guys. Operator00:32:57Our final question will come from Kyle Mixon with Canaccord. Please go ahead. Kyle MiksonManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Canaccord00:33:02Thanks, guys, for the questions. Just on NHS first, just given the data here and the partnership and the study keep progressing, how are the recent conversations with NHS going? What do you expect they're going to do, I guess, with Galleri commercialization in the country following the full readout in 2026? Secondly, for maybe Harpal, on the PPV for the subset here that you provided, is that a modeled number, or is that a concrete metric? I just want to kind of understand how the number should be used and how much earlier higher it is compared to Pathfinder, for example. Thanks. Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:33:38Yeah. Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:33:39Yeah, Harpal. You want to take it? Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:33:40Yeah, sure. Thanks, Bob. Let me quickly take the second question first. When we say the PPV was substantially higher in the first round, that's a concrete number. We're not sharing what that number is, but we can say it's substantially higher than the 43% that we saw in Pathfinder. It's not a modeled number. With respect to the conversations with the NHS, I mean, just to say that we're in constant dialogue with the NHS and with the National Screening Committee in the U.K. and with the government in the U.K., they are clear that they want to wait to see final results from all three rounds of the study before they will make a decision as to if and when to roll out a screening program in the U.K. or in England, particularly. Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:34:33I can't give you anything more concrete than that at this point other than to say we're in constant dialogue. Aaron FreidinCFO at GRAIL00:34:39Hey, Harpal, maybe go through a little bit of why not reveal the numbers right now. Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:34:45Yeah, sure. I mean, it's important to reiterate that the NHS Galleri trial was designed as a three-year screening study. In other words, we do three rounds of screening. That's very common in screening trials and studies of screening because, for the reasons that I stated earlier on the call, if you only look at one round of screening, then what you'll typically find in that first round is a lot of prevalent asymptomatic cancers in the population, which can often be late stage but haven't yet been diagnosed. By going to a second and third round, you start to see what the impact of a, if you like, a more established or steady-state screening program might be. It's really important that we safeguard those upcoming readouts and the integrity of the trial as a whole. Joshua OfmanPresident at GRAIL00:35:37It's also really important that we safeguard the interest of the participants taking part in the trial. For all of those reasons, we're not sharing more detailed information at this stage, but we are now getting closer to having the final results middle of next year. We look forward to sharing all of those, both with all of you, but also with the NHS at that time. Kyle MiksonManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Canaccord00:36:01Great. That was super helpful. On the topic of repeat testing, it sounds like that metric remains stable. I think I heard 20% continues. When you think about repeat testing, what's an acceptable number at this point? Do you like 20%? How do you improve the stickiness and that recurring kind of revenue stream? How does movement in that number affect your modeling of ASP and customer acquisition cost over the medium term? Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:36:28Yeah. First of all, we're very pleased with above 20%. Given that we're generally not a reimbursed test, we think it compares very favorably to reimbursed tests in the market. The 20% mark, we expect to continue to be able to grow that. We need a little more time on the rebels to figure out exactly where that's going to go. Clearly, from a customer acquisition cost, that certainly helps the model being able to have that repeat base at that significant level. That is something we are factoring into our modeling. Kyle MiksonManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Canaccord00:37:09Great. Thanks, Bob. Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:37:10Randy, any? Operator00:37:15Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to GRAIL for closing remarks. Bob RagusaCEO at GRAIL00:37:22Thank you, everyone, for joining today's call. Operator00:37:29Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the call. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesCompany RepresentativeBob RagusaCEOHarpal KumarPresident of International Business and BiopharmaJoshua OfmanPresidentAaron FreidinCFOAnalystsSubbu NambiManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at Guggenheim PartnersTejas SavantAnalyst at Morgan StanleyDoug SchenkelManaging Director and Head of Life Science & Diagnostic Tools at Wolfe ResearchKyle MiksonManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at CanaccordPowered by