Elbit Systems Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • First‐quarter revenues rose 22% year-over-year to $1.896 billion, while non-GAAP diluted EPS jumped to $2.57 from $1.81 a year ago.
  • Order backlog reached a record $23.1 billion, up 40% from last year, with approximately 66% of orders coming from outside Israel.
  • The company generated $161 million of free cash flow and $184 million of operating cash flow, enabling a $0.60 per share dividend declaration.
  • GAAP gross margin ticked down to 24.0% (non-GAAP 24.3%), reflecting slight margin pressure despite ongoing cost efficiencies.
  • Elbit won key contracts including ~$100 million for European digital fire command centers, $80 million for F-16I self-protection suites, and is on track to field the IronBeam laser defense system by year-end.
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Elbit Systems Q1 2025
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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to Elbit Systems' first quarter 2025 results conference call. All participants are at present in listen-only mode. Following management's formal presentation, instructions will be given for the question-and-answer session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the call over to Ms. Daniella Finn, Elbit Systems Vice President of Investor Relations. Daniella, please go ahead.

Daniella Finn
Daniella Finn
VP of Investor Relations at Elbit Systems

Thank you, Nathan. Good day, everyone, and welcome to our first quarter 2025 earnings call. On the call with me today are Butzi Machlis, President and CEO of Elbit Systems, and Kobi Kagan, CFO. Before we begin, I would like to point out that the safe harbor statement in the company's filings issued earlier today also refers to the content of this conference call. As usual, we will provide you with both GAAP financial data as well as certain supplemental non-GAAP information. We believe that this non-GAAP information provides additional details to help understand the performance of the ongoing business. You can find the detailed GAAP financial data as well as the non-GAAP information and the reconciliation in today's press release. Kobi will begin by providing a discussion of the financial results, followed by Butzi, who will talk about some of the significant developments during the quarter and beyond.

Daniella Finn
Daniella Finn
VP of Investor Relations at Elbit Systems

We will then turn the call over to question-and-answer session. With that, I would like to now turn the call over to Kobi. Kobi, please go ahead.

Kobi Kagan
Kobi Kagan
CFO at Elbit Systems

Thank you, Daniella. Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. The strong set of results published earlier today continues the trend we've seen over the past few quarters of strong revenue growth and margin expansion. This quarter is the fourth consecutive quarter in which we publish double-digit growth for revenues, backlog, operating income, net income, and EPS. We are very pleased with these results. We continue to make a concerted effort to improve our free cash flow, and I'm happy to announce that in this quarter, we presented strong free cash flow totaling $161 million. I will now highlight and discuss some of the key figures and trends in our financial results. First quarter revenues were $1,896,000,000 compared to $1,554,000,000 in the first quarter of 2024. In the first quarter of 2025, Europe contributed 24%, North America 21%, Asia-Pacific 18%, and Israel contributed 32% of revenues.

Kobi Kagan
Kobi Kagan
CFO at Elbit Systems

Demand continues to be robust in all key geographies. GAAP gross margin in the first quarter was 24% of revenues compared to 24.1% in the first quarter of 2024. The non-GAAP gross margin for the first quarter was 24.3% compared to 24.7% in the first quarter of 2024. The first quarter GAAP operating income for the first quarter was $149.7 million, or 7.9% of revenues, versus $105.4 million, or 6.8% of revenues in the first quarter of 2024. Non-GAAP operating income was $165.1 million, or 8.7% of revenues, compared with $121.6 million, or 7.8% of revenues in the first quarter of last year. The operating expense breakdown in the first quarter was as follows. Net R&D expenses were $114.3 million, or 6.1% of revenues, compared to $98.5 million, or 6.3% of revenues in the first quarter of 2024.

Kobi Kagan
Kobi Kagan
CFO at Elbit Systems

Marketing and selling expenses were $100.9 million, or 5.3% of revenues, versus $89.1 million, or 5.7% in the first quarter of 2024. G&A expenses were $89.4 million, or 4.7% of revenues, compared to $81.2 million, or 5.2% of revenues in the first quarter of 2024. Financial expenses were $39 million in the first quarter, compared to $31.2 million in the first quarter of 2024. The increase in financial expenses in the first quarter of 2025 was mainly due to the hedging transaction and the net effect of changes in the exchange rates of different currencies in which the company operates. We recorded a tax expense of $16.1 million in the first quarter, compared to $11.6 million in the first quarter of 2024. The effective tax rate in the first quarter of 2025 was 13.9%, compared to 14.6% in the first quarter of 2024.

Kobi Kagan
Kobi Kagan
CFO at Elbit Systems

GAAP diluted EPS was $2.35 for the first quarter of 2025, compared to $1.65 in the first quarter of 2024. Our non-GAAP diluted EPS was $2.57 for the first quarter of 2025, compared to $1.81 in the first quarter of 2024. Quarterly segment revenue for the first quarter of 2025: aerospace revenue increased by 20% year-over-year, mainly due to increase in precision-guided munitions sales in Israel and Asia-Pacific. C4I and cyber revenues increased by 12% year-over-year, mainly due to increase in radio systems and command and control system sales in Israel and in Europe. ISTAR and EW revenue increased by 4% in the first quarter of 2025, mainly due to electro-optic system sales. Land revenue increased by 48% in the first quarter of 2025, mainly due to increase in munition and munitions sales in Israel and in Europe.

Kobi Kagan
Kobi Kagan
CFO at Elbit Systems

Elbit Systems of America revenues increased by 18% due to the increase in warfighter systems and medical instrumentation sales. Our order backlog as of March 31, 2025, was $23.1 billion, $2.7 billion higher than the backlog at the end of the first quarter of 2024. Approximately 66% of the current backlog is attributable to orders from outside of Israel. Approximately 51% of the current backlog is scheduled to be performed during the remainder of 2025 and during 2026, and the rest is scheduled for 2027 and beyond. Net cash provided by operating activities at the end of the first quarter of 2025 was $184 million, as compared to $6 million cash used in the first quarter of 2024. Operating cash flow during the quarter were affected mainly by the increase in net income and an increase in contract liabilities, which were offset by the increase in inventories and trade receivables.

Kobi Kagan
Kobi Kagan
CFO at Elbit Systems

During the first quarter of 2025, we also delivered $161 million of Free Cash Flow. The Board of Directors has declared a dividend of $0.60 per share. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Machlis, Elbit CEO. Butzi, please go ahead.

Butzi Machlis
Butzi Machlis
CEO at Elbit Systems

Thank you, Kobi. I would like to begin by thanking our Elbit employees around the world for the hard work and ongoing support and commitment to our customers. These results would not have been achieved without our ongoing commitment and dedication. During Q1 2025, we have seen a dynamic trend of strong growth continue as demand in the defense business remains high. This is the fourth quarter in a row in which we have delivered double-digit year-over-year growth in revenues, operating profit, net profit, and backlog. Our backlog has reached a record of $23.1 billion, up 40% from last year. For the period of the last four quarters, our GAAP EPS is almost 8%, and the non-GAAP EPS is at $9.50. The ongoing conflicts in Ukraine and locally here in the Middle East continue to dominate the geographical agenda.

Butzi Machlis
Butzi Machlis
CEO at Elbit Systems

These are evident in governments' decision-making around the world to increase defense budgets. Coupled with ongoing rhetoric by President Trump for NATO allies to increase defense spending is propelling this supercycle we are seeing in defense spend, where we continue to see strong demand for Elbit's products and advanced technological solutions, as evident in our growing backlog and sales. Last week, the NATO Secretary General presented a proposal for a plan to further increase defense spending in Europe to gradually reach 5% of GDP by 2032, which is expected to be presented at the next NATO summit at the end of June. We believe our growth geographical exposure to Israel, the U.S., Europe, and Asia-Pacific is unique. During the quarter and beyond, we continued to receive orders for our solutions in artillery, ammunition, Electronic Warfare, radio systems, and self-protection solutions, among others.

Butzi Machlis
Butzi Machlis
CEO at Elbit Systems

For example, we won a contract totaling approximately $100 million to provide joint national digital fire command centers for European countries, or a contract totaling $80 million to supply the IMOD with advanced Airborne Self-Protection suites for the F-16I fleet designed to further secure the safety of the F-16I aircraft, enabling it to operate safely in hostile environments. Another Self-Protection solution was won, this time a maritime EW Self-Protection solution for a frigate installation to a NATO European country. Elbit's DESEAVER MK-4 Countermeasure Dispensing System is an advanced maritime Electronic Warfare solution designed to effectively counter complex missile attack scenarios. An additional contract secured to a NATO European country was to supply our ReDrone counter-UAS solution. This multi-sensor and multi-mission system is part of Elbit's advanced EW, radar, and SIGINT portfolio, enabling the rapid detection and location of multiple drones simultaneously.

Butzi Machlis
Butzi Machlis
CEO at Elbit Systems

During the quarter, we continued winning contracts for our Advanced Rocket Munition Launcher PULS, Precise and Universal Launching System. This time, together with KNDS, it was Germany who selected our PULS solution, which has now been selected by multiple European countries, including Germany, the Netherlands, and Denmark, among others, testimony of its effectiveness in enhancing defense capabilities in modern battlefield. Additionally, we won a $130 million contract to yet another European NATO country during the quarter. The scalable PULS system enables a variety of range to be used, starting from 35 KM up to a range of 300 KM. These agile and scalable features of this advanced and versatile artillery rocket system, coupled with launching a wide range of rocket types from a single platform, have been a key win by our customers versus our solution.

Butzi Machlis
Butzi Machlis
CEO at Elbit Systems

In February, we showcased our latest development in air defense technology at the Aero India show. Elbit's innovative portfolio featured solutions including Unmanned Aerial Systems, Directed Infrastructure Countermeasure technology, Electronic Warfare capabilities, Precise Guided Munitions, and our Helmet Mounted Displays, among others. I am pleased to say that there was a strong interest in our product displayed. We continue to see a growing amount of interest in the Iron Beam system, the High-Power Laser solution, which is expected to be operational by the end of 2025. The Laser component of the Iron Beam solution developed by Elbit is intended to provide a robust defense against a variety of incoming threats. The $200 million contract announced back in October 2024 positioned Elbit as an Israel's Laser Center and a global leader in high-power laser technology, both for land and airborne solutions. We should continue to update you on development in this area.

Butzi Machlis
Butzi Machlis
CEO at Elbit Systems

With that, I will be happy to answer your questions. Operator.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, we will begin the question and answer session. If you have a question, please press star one. If you wish to cancel your request, please press star two. If you are using speaker equipment, kindly lift the handset before pressing the numbers. Your questions will be polled in the order that they are received. Before that, I would like to hand the call over back to Ms. Daniella Finn for a few questions that were pre-sent and pre-recorded. Daniella, please go ahead.

Daniella Finn
Daniella Finn
VP of Investor Relations at Elbit Systems

Thank you very much, Nathan. A couple of questions from Chen Pierrette from Excellence. Chen, thank you very much for your question today. The first question is, is there an expectation of a slowdown in activity in Israel due to a possible decline in the intensity of the conflict in Gaza or a ceasefire imposed by the U.S.? How is the company preparing for such a scenario?

Butzi Machlis
Butzi Machlis
CEO at Elbit Systems

Thank you. First, I would like to say that I'm praying for the end of the current war we have in Israel and for the release of the hostages from Gaza. The investment in defense, I believe, will continue in the future, in the near term future. The main reason for that is these investments are helping to create an advantage for Israel in our arena and to create, and there is also a need to build more inventories and to treat the equipment which is coming back from the field. I really believe that this investment will continue. The same we see in Europe. Countries are preparing themselves to invest more in defense. In all, they are not very concerned from Russia, mainly in North Europe.

Butzi Machlis
Butzi Machlis
CEO at Elbit Systems

I do not see any slowdown in defense investment in the coming few years, not in Israel and neither in Europe.

Daniella Finn
Daniella Finn
VP of Investor Relations at Elbit Systems

Thank you. The second question from Chen, is an improvement in the gross profit rate expected in the coming year, or will the profitability targets be achieved while relying on operating leverage?

Kobi Kagan
Kobi Kagan
CFO at Elbit Systems

Thank you, Chen. With the high demand we are witnessing and the expedited growth of our backlog, we can be more selective in the bookings we take. Additionally, on top of that, we will see continuous operational OpEx leverage, as you mentioned.

Daniella Finn
Daniella Finn
VP of Investor Relations at Elbit Systems

Thank you. The next question from Chen is, what is the expectation for CapEx for the rest of the year?

Kobi Kagan
Kobi Kagan
CFO at Elbit Systems

We see the same level of CapEx investment. It might be a small increase in CapEx investment to around the neighborhood of $250 million, as we recorded in $215 million in 2024.

Daniella Finn
Daniella Finn
VP of Investor Relations at Elbit Systems

Thanks, Kobi.

Butzi Machlis
Butzi Machlis
CEO at Elbit Systems

I would like to add more flavor to the first question with regards to investment here in Israel and Europe. The main reason for investment is not just to support the current conflict we have. It's also to create deterrence against our enemies here in our region and also in Europe. Because of that, I really believe that that's the main reason for the investment, not the current conflicts which are happening right now here, as well as in Europe, but to create deterrence which can avoid war in the future.

Daniella Finn
Daniella Finn
VP of Investor Relations at Elbit Systems

Thank you for that. A final question from Chen is, what is the status of Iron Beam? Will it be operational by the end of the year? We've slightly answered that, but Butzi, if you'd like to elaborate slightly on that.

Butzi Machlis
Butzi Machlis
CEO at Elbit Systems

Yeah. The Iron Beam, the land solution, should be operational by the end of this year. We are working hard in order to make it happen, and there is a lot of progress there. In parallel, we continue to invest in the airborne solution. We believe that bringing the airborne solution to the arena will create a great, will be a huge change in the way countries are fighting, mainly against swarms. Hundreds of engineers and physicists are working in order to develop the system, and there is a lot of progress there as well.

Daniella Finn
Daniella Finn
VP of Investor Relations at Elbit Systems

Thank you, Bush. Operator, we can take the following questions now. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from Omri Efroni of Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Omri Efroni
Omri Efroni
Head of Investment Research at Oppenheimer

Hi guys. Congratulations for the recorder. I have a few questions, hope you don't mind. The first is about the land division. The operating margin was pretty high. It got 9%. I know that most of the equipment is going into Israel. I was wondering if you have any more upside when Israeli stockpiles are full and Elbit will be able to sell to other countries. That's the first question. The second question is about the Iron Beam. I was wondering if you have any internal price target and sale target, sorry, for the system. If so, if the system is going to be sold only to Israel or you can sell it into the United States. The third question is about the pictures you put on slide seven. I see here the soldier lethality program, aka the IVAS in the United States.

Omri Efroni
Omri Efroni
Head of Investment Research at Oppenheimer

I was wondering if you have any targets or any more color you can give on the IVAS and the Augmented Reality Soldier Enhancement and maybe some more color on the maritime sensing and future products that might be much more important next year.

Butzi Machlis
Butzi Machlis
CEO at Elbit Systems

Let's do it one by one. If I'm not mistaken, the first question was with regards to the land revenues, right?

Omri Efroni
Omri Efroni
Head of Investment Research at Oppenheimer

Yes.

Butzi Machlis
Butzi Machlis
CEO at Elbit Systems

First, I would like to, Omri, I would like to say that the land division is not selling just the munitions. They are selling full-term solutions, which includes artillery systems, howitzers, mortars, command and control system, fire control system, electro-optics, and of course, munition and guided munition as well, all combined. What happened after the acquisition of IMI is that actually we combined all the elements which are related to land solutions into one division, and we are selling the turnkey solution to our customers. It's not a product. It's a full-term system. Now, if I understood you correctly, you asked me about what will happen after the demand in Israel will increase. Is it price? Will it decrease?

Omri Efroni
Omri Efroni
Head of Investment Research at Oppenheimer

Yeah. If you have any more upside into the operating leverage, operating margin in the land division.

Kobi Kagan
Kobi Kagan
CFO at Elbit Systems

You asked about the demand outside of Israel.

Omri Efroni
Omri Efroni
Head of Investment Research at Oppenheimer

Yeah. I mean, I suppose it's continued to be pretty strong. My main question is when you start selling outside of Israel, mainly to Europe and much higher numbers, if the operating margin is going to be enhanced.

Butzi Machlis
Butzi Machlis
CEO at Elbit Systems

First, we continue to improve our numbers in the land division, and we see a big change there. They are contributing quite a lot to our profit. Of course, as quantities are going up, we have more opportunities to increase the bottom line. We see a lot of growing demand, mainly in Europe, not just in Israel. I truly believe that there is a lot of potential for more revenues and more profit in this domain. Okay. This was with regards to the first question. The second question was around Iron Beam, right?

Omri Efroni
Omri Efroni
Head of Investment Research at Oppenheimer

Yes.

Butzi Machlis
Butzi Machlis
CEO at Elbit Systems

The question was, what are the prices of system? I'm not really sure I understood the question.

Omri Efroni
Omri Efroni
Head of Investment Research at Oppenheimer

The targets of revenue for the system in Israel and the United States.

Butzi Machlis
Butzi Machlis
CEO at Elbit Systems

Usually, we don't give this information publicly. I can tell you that there is a huge interest. There is a huge interest around this system, around the laser solution and other types of energy weapons. We deal not just with laser systems. We deal with many types of several types of energy weapons in Israel as well as abroad. With regards to numbers, these numbers, usually we don't share this data.

Omri Efroni
Omri Efroni
Head of Investment Research at Oppenheimer

Great. Regarding the third question about the soldier lethality and the maritime sensing?

Butzi Machlis
Butzi Machlis
CEO at Elbit Systems

Yes. We are very happy with the acquisition of Night Vision, which took place a few years back. This company is growing and improving. They are providing, as you know, Night Vision equipment for the army, for the marines, as well as for other international customers. Now, based on the Elbit portfolio, we are able to combine a full-term solution for infantry soldiers. This is also a lesson learned from the current conflict we have here in our region. We are tailoring a unique solution for infantry soldiers, for future infantry soldiers. We are offering it to our different customers in the U.S. as well as abroad. I'm very happy to say that we just announced a $112 million contract to the U.S. Marine Corps. We see a lot of potential in this specific domain. It's a growing segment in our portfolio.

Omri Efroni
Omri Efroni
Head of Investment Research at Oppenheimer

Yes. Okay. Thank you very much.

Butzi Machlis
Butzi Machlis
CEO at Elbit Systems

Thank you.

Kobi Kagan
Kobi Kagan
CFO at Elbit Systems

Thank you, Omri.

Operator

The next question is from Conor Walters of Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Conor Walters
Conor Walters
Equity Reseach Assosciate at Jefferies

Hi guys. Good morning. Congrats on such an excellent quarter. Maybe to stick with the top line, Q1 was off to a great start with 22% growth, well on track for the double-digit target for the year. Curious, what played out better than expected for the quarter and how we should think about the drivers for the remainder of the year, particularly as we think about the momentum we saw in land and aerospace?

Kobi Kagan
Kobi Kagan
CFO at Elbit Systems

Hi, Conor. How are you? Thank you for the question. We had a very good start for 2025, as you mentioned. It was unplanned. It's not something that we didn't plan. We see very big growth in the land backlog, and that was demonstrated with 48% expansion in revenues year-over-year with the land division. We see also in the other segments, all of the segments grew from one digit to two digits, most of them two digits growth in this quarter. It was unplanned, and it's on track in the company's growth.

Conor Walters
Conor Walters
Equity Reseach Assosciate at Jefferies

Got it. That's very helpful. Maybe one more for you, Kobi. Free Cash Flow generation in the quarter was very strong again, continuing on that momentum we saw from Q4 of last year. I had nearly 140% conversion on your adjusted net income. Curious how we should be thinking about the opportunity for the full year and maybe what's driven this step change in your cash conversion of the last few quarters.

Kobi Kagan
Kobi Kagan
CFO at Elbit Systems

Thank you, Conor, for pointing this out. We had three major ingredients in the Free Cash Flow generation this quarter. First, increased net income. That is plain vanilla. Just increased the net income, and that will translate to better cash conversion. Secondly, we had very strong contract liabilities, down payments in this quarter, which was an additional $170 million of contract liabilities in this quarter. Thirdly, there was a one-time of $57 million of grant that we received from the Israeli Land Authority, the ILA, which was part of the contract of the evacuation of the facility in Ramat HaSharon going to Ramat Beka in the end of 2026. Those are the three ingredients in the performance that we had in the first quarter of the Free Cash Flow.

Conor Walters
Conor Walters
Equity Reseach Assosciate at Jefferies

Okay. Great. I'll leave it there. Thanks so much.

Daniella Finn
Daniella Finn
VP of Investor Relations at Elbit Systems

Thanks, Conor.

Operator

If there are any additional questions, please press star one. If you wish to cancel your request, please press star two. Please stand by while we poll for more questions. There are no further questions at this time. Before I ask Mr. Machlis to go ahead with his closing statement, I would like to remind participants that a replay of this call will be available in two hours after the conference ends. In the U.S., please call 1-888-782-4291. In Israel, please call 03-925-5900. Internationally, please call 972-392-55900. A replay of the call will also be available at the company's website at www.elbitsystems.com. Mr. Machlis, would you like to make your concluding statement?

Butzi Machlis
Butzi Machlis
CEO at Elbit Systems

I would like to thank our employees for their continued hard work and contribution to Elbit Systems' success. To everyone on the call, thank you for joining us today and for your continued support and interest in our company. Have a good day and goodbye.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes the Elbit Systems first quarter 2025 results conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now go ahead and disconnect.

Executives
    • Kobi Kagan
      Kobi Kagan
      CFO
    • Butzi Machlis
      Butzi Machlis
      CEO
    • Daniella Finn
      Daniella Finn
      VP of Investor Relations
Analysts
    • Omri Efroni
      Head of Investment Research at Oppenheimer
    • Conor Walters
      Equity Reseach Assosciate at Jefferies
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