Blackrock Tcp Capital Q1 2025 Earnings Report

Blackrock Tcp Capital EPS Results

• Actual EPS: $0.36
• Consensus EPS: $0.34
• Beat/Miss: Beat by +$0.02
• One Year Ago EPS: N/A

Blackrock Tcp Capital Revenue Results

• Actual Revenue: $55.89 million
• Expected Revenue: $57.95 million
• Beat/Miss: Missed by -$2.06 million
• YoY Revenue Growth: N/A

Blackrock Tcp Capital Announcement Details

• Quarter: Q1 2025
• Date: 5/8/2025
• Time: Before Market Opens
• Conference Call Date: Thursday, May 8, 2025
• Conference Call Time: 12:00PM ET

Blackrock Tcp Capital (NASDAQ:TCPC) Corp is a publicly traded business development company (BDC) listed on the NASDAQ under the ticker TCPC. Externally managed by BlackRock, the firm provides customized financing solutions to U.S. middle-market companies, with a focus on sponsor-backed transactions. Its core strategy centers on delivering current income and capital appreciation through a diversified portfolio of debt and equity investments across a variety of sectors, including consumer products, healthcare, business services and industrials.

Since its initial public offering in 2013, BlackRock TCP Capital has partnered with private equity sponsors to underwrite and structure senior secured first-lien loans, second-lien loans, mezzanine debt and select equity co-investments. The company’s emphasis on senior secured instruments offers structural protections and collateral coverage, while its flexibility to invest in subordinated debt and equity helps enhance overall portfolio yield and diversification.

As part of the BlackRock platform, BlackRock TCP Capital benefits from the parent firm’s extensive credit research, risk-management capabilities and global network. The dedicated middle-market credit team leverages BlackRock’s analytical tools, proprietary market insights and transaction experience to source opportunities, conduct due diligence and monitor portfolio performance. This partnership enables the BDC to maintain rigorous underwriting standards and disciplined portfolio management.

Governance is overseen by a board of directors that includes independent members with deep experience in private credit and corporate finance. Day-to-day investment decisions are executed by BlackRock’s specialized credit professionals, ensuring alignment between shareholders and management. Through this structure, BlackRock TCP Capital seeks to offer investors access to a segment of the fixed-income market that combines the income potential of private credit with the liquidity of a publicly traded vehicle.

Blackrock Tcp Capital Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

• Adjusted net investment income was $0.36 per share with annualized ROE of 15.4%, and portfolio nonaccruals decreased to 4.4% from 5.6% sequentially, signaling stabilization.
• Value uplifts included meaningful markups on staffing platform JobandTalent and automotive data analytics provider AutoAlert, reflecting improved performance and successful restructuring outcomes.
• The board declared a second quarter cash dividend of $0.25 plus a special dividend of $0.04 per share and repurchased 42,650 shares to enhance shareholder returns.
• TCP Capital ended the quarter with $629 million of liquidity, low net leverage of 1.13x and deployed $66 million into first‐lien senior secured loans, maintaining a disciplined investment focus.

Presentation

[Operator]

Ladies and gentlemen, Good Afternoon. welcome, everyone, to BlackRock TCP Capital Corp Q1 2025 earnings call. Today's conference call is being recorded for replay purposes. During the presentation, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the company's formal remarks. To ask a question, please press the star key followed by the digit one. I will repeat these instructions before we begin the Q&A session. I would like to turn the call over to Michaela Murray, a member of the BlackRock TCP Capital Corp Investor Relations Team. Michaela, please proceed.

[Michaela Murray, Head of Investor Relations at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

Thank you. Before we begin, I'll note that this conference call may contain forward-looking statements based on the estimates and assumptions of management at the time of such statements and are not guarantees of future performance. Forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, and actual results could differ materially from those projected. Any forward-looking statements made on this call are made as of today and are subject to change without notice. Additionally, certain information discussed and presented may have been derived from third-party sources and has not been independently verified. Accordingly, we make no representation or warranty with respect to such information. Earlier today, we issued our earnings release for the first quarter ended March 31st, 2025. We also posted a supplemental earnings presentation to our website at www.tcpcapital.com.

[Michaela Murray, Head of Investor Relations at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

To view the slide presentation, which we will refer to on today's call, please click on the Investor Relations link and select Events and Presentations. These documents should be reviewed in conjunction with the company's Form 10-Q, which was filed with the SEC earlier today. Now, I will turn the call over to our Chairman, co-CIO, and CEO, Philip Tseng.

[Philip Tseng, Managing Director, Chairman, CEO & Co-CIO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

Thank you, Michaela, and thank you all for joining our call. Today, I'll begin with a brief overview of our results for the quarter and then share an update on our portfolio. After that, I'll turn the call over to our President, Jason Mehring, to review details of our investment activity. Eric Cuellar, our CFO, will then review our financial results in more detail. I'll follow Eric's remarks with commentary on the current market environment before we open the call up for questions. We're also joined today by Dan Worrell, our Co-CIO, and Patrick Wolf, our COO. I am pleased to report that during the first quarter, we made meaningful progress in strengthening the portfolio. Although the impact of global macroeconomic factors, including tariffs, remains uncertain, we are beginning to see signs of portfolio stabilization. We delivered solid results for the quarter.

[Philip Tseng, Managing Director, Chairman, CEO & Co-CIO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

Adjusted net investment income was $0.36 per share, flat with the prior quarter. Annualized net investment income ROE was 15.4%, and net asset value per share was $9.18 compared to $9.23 in the fourth quarter. During the first quarter, no new names were added to the non-accrual list, and the number of portfolio companies on non-accrual status at quarter-end declined meaningfully to eight from twelve in the prior quarter. Non-accruals now comprise 4.4% of our portfolio at fair value, down from 5.6% or 120 basis points sequentially. During the quarter, we exited our non-accrual positions in Securus, McAfee, CIBT, and Avante, all of which were broadly syndicated second-line loans that we believed offered limited near-term upside. As we pointed out last quarter, we are primarily focused on investing in first-line loans and will only consider second-line loans in situations where we are a lender of influence.

[Philip Tseng, Managing Director, Chairman, CEO & Co-CIO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

Subsequent to quarter-end, we removed Renovo from non-accrual following the completion of a comprehensive recapitalization, which significantly delevered its balance sheet. Since the recapitalization, we have remained actively engaged with Renovo's management team as they pursue a variety of initiatives aimed at improving performance. As a result of this action, our pro forma non-accrual percentage post-quarter-end has decreased to 4.1% at fair value to 11.8% at cost. Our largest markdowns during the quarter were Razor Group, Gordon Brothers, and Alpine, also known as 4840, which is a pallet management services provider that we have not previously discussed. 4840 benefited from increased pallet demand coming out of COVID, but as the market began to normalize in 2023, volumes declined.

[Philip Tseng, Managing Director, Chairman, CEO & Co-CIO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

While a slower-than-anticipated market recovery has pressured performance, we remain confident in 4840's position as a leader within the pallet space, which is a critical element of the supply chain and transport of essential goods. We will continue to monitor closely 4840's performance and industry trends more broadly. We are focused on optimizing the outcome for each of these investments, and we are actively exploring solutions for our positions in the aggregators as well. Our largest markups were Job&Talent, a tech-enabled staffing agency, and AutoAlert, an automotive data analytics platform, which we previously removed from our non-accrual status in the first quarter of 2023. We recently provided growth capital to Job&Talent to accelerate the execution of their long-term strategic plan.

[Philip Tseng, Managing Director, Chairman, CEO & Co-CIO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

Job&Talent continues to perform well and is delivering year-over-year revenue growth supported by accelerating demand in the staffing industry, as well as higher levels of profitability, reflecting their success in streamlining their operations. The deal structure for the Job&Talent investment provided upside to lenders based on improved value creation and performance, which contributed to the meaningful markup this quarter. Regarding AutoAlert, after nearly a decade as a lender, we assumed control of the company in March of 2023 as part of a restructuring. Since then, AutoAlert has shown consistent financial performance and recently reported its second consecutive year of earnings growth, which contributed to the write-up of its value this quarter. Now, turning to our dividend. In line with our revised dividend policy, our board declared a second-quarter dividend of $0.25 and a special dividend of $0.04 per share.

[Philip Tseng, Managing Director, Chairman, CEO & Co-CIO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

Both are payable on June 30th, 2025, to shareholders of record on June 16th, 2025. We appreciate the continued support of our shareholders as we reposition our portfolio to deliver consistent, attractive returns. In addition to operating with our long-standing shareholder-friendly fee structure and waiving one-third of our base management fee through September 30th, 2025, we repurchased 3,150 shares of TCP stock this quarter and an additional 39,500 shares after quarter-end. Now, I'll turn the call over to Jason to provide more detail on our portfolio along with our investment activity during the quarter.

[Jason Mehring, Managing Director & President at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

Thanks, Phil. I'll start with an overview of our portfolio, which had a fair market value of approximately $1.8 billion at the end of the quarter, invested across 146 companies in over 20 industry sectors. Our average investment size was granular at $12.1 million, or 0.7% of the portfolio. 90% of the portfolio was invested in senior secured debt, and 94% of that amount was floating rate. Investment income was distributed broadly across our diverse portfolio, with more than 74% of our portfolio companies each contributing less than 1% of the total. At quarter-end, the weighted average annual effective yield of our portfolio was 12.2% compared to 12.4% last quarter. New investments had a weighted average yield of 11.4%, while those we exited had a weighted average yield of 11.2%. These yields reflect the exit of four investments on non-accrual that did not contribute to current yield.

[Jason Mehring, Managing Director & President at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

Excluding these four exits, the annual effective yield on deals exited in the period was 11.9%. Moving on to investment activity, we deployed $66 million of capital during the quarter into two new and nine existing portfolio companies. Repeat borrowers remain an important source of originations, and existing portfolio companies accounted for 89% of our first-quarter investments. 100% of new investments were in first-line loans, which comprised 82.5% of our total portfolio at quarter-end. Our largest new investment this quarter, a $6.7 million first-line term loan and revolver in Appriss Retail, demonstrates our focus on investing in first-line loans to high-quality middle-market companies. Appriss is a market leader in software that helps retailers combat returns fraud and employee theft. This sector is positioned for growth due to several factors, including increased cybercrime and the shift towards digital payments. With long-term contracts with over 60 of the top 100 U.S.

[Jason Mehring, Managing Director & President at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

retailers, Appriss has an attractive high-margin business model with recurring revenue and strong free cash flow generation. In an environment of slowing consumer spending, this type of software is essential to helping retailers protect profit margins and reduce financial losses. As we evaluate new investment opportunities, we remain focused on the core pillars of our strategy Phil outlined last quarter. These include targeting core middle-market companies, maintaining a well-diversified portfolio, prioritizing first-line loans, and leveraging the extensive resources of the BlackRock platform. We are taking a disciplined approach to new investments and continue to pass on opportunities that aren't aligned with our strategy. Now, I'll turn the call over to Eric, who will discuss our financial results along with our capital and liquidity position.

[Eric Cuellar, CFO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

Thank you, Jason. Let me begin with our financial results for the quarter. As detailed in our earnings press release, adjusted net investment income excludes the amortization of the purchase accounting discount resulting from our merger with BCIC and is calculated in accordance with GAAP. A full reconciliation of adjusted net investment income to GAAP net investment income, as well as other non-GAAP financial metrics, is included in our earnings press release and 10Q. As Phil noted, adjusted net investment income was $0.36 per share, and gross investment income was $0.66 per share in the first quarter. This amount included recurring cash interest of $0.47, non-recurring income of $0.03, recurring discount and fee amortization of $0.05, PIK income of $0.08, and dividend income of $0.04 per share. PIK interest income for the quarter was 11.6% of total investment income.

[Eric Cuellar, CFO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

Operating expenses for the first quarter were $0.28 per share, including $0.20 per share of interest and other debt expenses. As of March 31st, 2025, our cumulative total return did not exceed the total return hurdle, and as a result, no incentive compensation was accrued for the first quarter. Additionally, as Phil mentioned, our advisor has agreed to waive one-third of our base management fee for three quarters beginning on January 1st, 2025, and ending on September 30, 2025. Net realized losses for the quarter were approximately $41 million, or $0.48 per share, driven by the disposition of our investments in Securus, McAfee, CIBT, and Avante. These losses were substantially already reflected in our net asset value at December 31st, 2024.

[Eric Cuellar, CFO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

Net unrealized gains in the first quarter totaled $30 million, or $0.35 per share, primarily reflecting the reversal of previous unrealized losses on our investments in Securus, McAfee, CIBT, and Avante, as well as unrealized markups on Job&Talent and AutoAlert. The net increase in net assets for the quarter was $21 million, or $0.25 per share. As of March 31st, eight portfolio companies were on non-accrual status, representing 4.4% of the portfolio at fair value and 12.6% at cost, down from 5.6% and 14.4%, respectively, at the end of 2024. As previously noted, as a result of progress made subsequent to quarter-end, our pro forma non-accruals level is now 4.1% at fair value and 11.8% at cost. As Phil noted, we are working closely with our borrowers, their creditors, and sponsors to resolve these issues with the best possible outcome to our shareholders.

[Eric Cuellar, CFO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

The remainder of our portfolio is performing well. Turning to our liquidity, our balance sheet positioning is solid, and our total liquidity increased to $629 million at quarter-end, with $530 million of available leverage and $99 million of cash. Unfunded loan commitments to portfolio companies at quarter-end were 8% of our $1.8 billion investment portfolio, or approximately $135 million, including only $43 million of revolver commitments. Net leverage at the end of the quarter was 1.13 times, which is well within our target range of 0.9-1.2 times. We have several financing options to fund new investments, including our diverse and flexible leverage program, which has three low-cost credit facilities, three unsecured note issuances, and an SBA program. The weighted average interest rate on debt outstanding at quarter-end was 5.2%. Looking ahead, we are focused on plans to refinance our next major debt maturity in 2026.

[Eric Cuellar, CFO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

Our goal is to have the best possible options to refinance the 2026 debt maturity. As we continue to improve the credit quality of our portfolio, we expect to have access to attractively priced capital. On an ongoing basis, we are working with our lenders to expand our current credit facility. Now, I'll turn the call back over to Phil.

[Philip Tseng, Managing Director, Chairman, CEO & Co-CIO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

Thanks, Eric. I'll now provide some market commentary. As you know, in the current volatile market environment, many companies are now operating under entirely different conditions compared to a year ago. Access to capital is tightened, financing costs are higher, and global trade disruptions are impacting supply chains. After carefully reviewing our portfolio, we believe the immediate and direct impact from potential tariffs will be relatively limited and that it will take some time to fully quantify the downstream effects. We estimate that only a mid-single-digit percentage of our portfolio at fair market value will be directly impacted by tariffs. This includes the Amazon aggregators and others in the consumer retail, semiconductor, and energy sectors. While tariff impacts will vary by industry, we believe our focus on U.S.-based operators provides some insulation from supply chain disruption.

[Philip Tseng, Managing Director, Chairman, CEO & Co-CIO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

Our portfolio has historically been weighted towards services-based companies, which currently comprise the vast majority of the portfolio. These businesses are typically asset-light and less reliant on global supply chain disruptions, reducing their exposure to trade-related pressures. Turning to the demand side, although the expected lift in M&A activity has not materialized, we continue to see strong interest from borrowers and referral sources for direct loans in the core middle market. With over 200,000 companies generating more than $10 trillion in annual revenue, the middle market is the fastest-growing sector of the economy. We are seeing plenty of new opportunities from companies that are well-positioned to grow, even in this current environment. These companies need growth capital to take their business to the next phase by investing in organic growth initiatives, refinancing existing debt, or making strategic tuck-in acquisitions.

[Philip Tseng, Managing Director, Chairman, CEO & Co-CIO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

In addition, incumbency has always been a strong competitive advantage for TCPC, and in the past 12 months, over half of our new originations came from existing portfolio companies. We're finding opportunities within our portfolio where our deep relationships and industry experience mitigate investment risk, especially in a volatile environment. Having invested through multiple cycles, we know that some of the best opportunities can often be found in periods of uncertainty, and we're well-positioned to selectively deploy capital where we see attractive risk and return. We've been in the direct lending business for many years and have seen through prior periods that middle-market growth companies are resilient and have a demonstrated ability to adapt to changing market conditions. With less competition than the broadly syndicated market, this segment of the market has also historically delivered strong, risk-adjusted returns. Against this backdrop, we are focused on three main priorities.

[Philip Tseng, Managing Director, Chairman, CEO & Co-CIO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

First, we are working hard to resolve the remaining challenged positions within our portfolio. Second, we are keeping a close eye on all of our portfolio companies and are staying in close contact with their management teams to assess potential impacts of the current environment on their businesses. Our direct relationships have many benefits. They help us proactively monitor performance, resolve emerging issues, and identify follow-on financing opportunities. Third, we are maintaining a disciplined approach to originating and underwriting loans that align with our investment strategy. Our goal is to position our portfolio to perform well in all market environments, including a potential downturn. Taken together, we believe execution on these priorities will position TCPC to navigate this period of heightened uncertainty as we deliver the best possible risk-adjusted returns to our shareholders. I'll now pass the call back to the operators so we can open the call for Q&A.

[Operator]

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question today, please do so now by pressing star, followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you change your mind or you feel like your question has already been answered, you can press star, followed by two, to withdraw yourself from the queue. Our first question today comes from Christopher Nolan with Ladenburg Thalmann. Please go ahead.

[Christopher Nolan, Senior VP of Equity Research at Ladenburg Thalmann]

Hey, guys. First of all, congratulations on the quarter in terms of stabilizing the performance. Second, on the share repurchases, I saw there was a $50 million reauthorization. Just given where the stock price is trading and everything else, what is the thoughts in terms of the trajectory of repurchases going forward?

[Jason Mehring, Managing Director & President at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

Yeah, good question, Chris. As you know, we've done historically repurchases when we believe them to be accretive and meaningfully accretive. We did a little bit in Q1. We did some more post-Q1, as Phil noted. Certainly, we've been trading at levels that can make it accretive. Our thought is to continue to monitor the trading price, but really to continue to do them as they are accretive. The stock is reacting well this morning, but certainly, we'll continue to look at where we think it's accretive to repurchase shares.

[Christopher Nolan, Senior VP of Equity Research at Ladenburg Thalmann]

Okay. And then given the commentary around the middle market companies, do most of your portfolio companies have sponsors, or they sort of do not have sponsors?

[Philip Tseng, Managing Director, Chairman, CEO & Co-CIO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

Yeah, thanks, Chris. The vast majority of our companies do have sponsors, or I would say institutional ownership in there. There are many of our borrowers who have institutional ownership but not control. Oftentimes, decision-making and our negotiations on terms and deals are structured with management teams, founders, entrepreneurs, and businesses. I think the majority are sponsor-backed.

[Christopher Nolan, Senior VP of Equity Research at Ladenburg Thalmann]

In this environment, what is the appetite of those sponsors for kicking in more equity when you do a financing?

[Philip Tseng, Managing Director, Chairman, CEO & Co-CIO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

Yeah, that's a great question. Clearly, we've been in an environment where well into 2025. Think about the rate rise environment. We're probably in year three. With higher rates, slower growth, right, causing some liquidity issues across the market. Sponsors have had several years of looking to support their companies, continuing to infuse capital when necessary, providing the operational expertise that they may bring to the table. Three years in now, many of these sponsors, if they're not seeing their equity value continue to be sustainable or the equity option there, then they may be less supportive. We've seen a mix. Clearly, most of our companies are continuing to perform well, or if they've had some declining performance, it hasn't been to a point where the equity value is out of the money.

[Philip Tseng, Managing Director, Chairman, CEO & Co-CIO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

We have seen continued support, and we're negotiating with a couple here and there in our portfolio where the sponsor is putting in additional equity, and we're discussing ways to help accommodate that. To the extent that we don't get the right support from the equity, we're obviously very much comfortable with enforcing our rights and managing these companies on a post-restructuring basis, which I think you've seen us do over the past two decades of running this business.

[Christopher Nolan, Senior VP of Equity Research at Ladenburg Thalmann]

Okay. Thank you.

[Philip Tseng, Managing Director, Chairman, CEO & Co-CIO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

Thank you, Chris.

[Operator]

Thank you. Our next question comes from Robert Dodd with Raymond James. Please go ahead, Robert.

[Robert Dodd, Director at Raymond James]

Hi, guys. And to echo, Chris, congrats on resolving and exiting some of these things. On the aggregators, I mean, I appreciate you made some comments. I think it's still back to the environment. It's still more than half of the fair value of the non-accruals is in the aggregator space. I mean, there's a lot of non-income-producing fair value, let alone the cost basis, potentially. Can you give us any more color on how long you think completing restructuring or repositioning those businesses is going to take? From an earnings drag perspective, it's obviously a if there is recovery to be made there, there is an earnings drag, and it's dragging on your capacities generating NII. Can you give us any thoughts on a timeline on those? Obviously, it's tricky, but anything you can say.

[Philip Tseng, Managing Director, Chairman, CEO & Co-CIO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

Yeah, thanks, Robert. That's a topic that we are keenly focused on as well. Obviously, we're looking at our non-accruals very closely, working very hard in trying to work through those names. You're right, the aggregators are a large percentage of those. We think that we should be through the restructurings probably in the next few quarters at the back end. It could be sooner. I think we're making a lot of progress. That being said, we are seeing some good signs of improvement in thinking about the ability to have performing debt in there. Razor is certainly one that's well on its way. That's not a non-accrual, but that's one I just bring up because it's one of the aggregators. The other one, SellerX, they have some real promising brands in that business that continue to grow meaningfully year-over-year.

[Philip Tseng, Managing Director, Chairman, CEO & Co-CIO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

We're really excited about the prospects there in terms of the ability to kind of generate sustained income. Both Cellarex and Razor are still in the restructuring process, and those aren't necessarily easy to manage given the multiple stakeholders up and down the cap stack. We're working on those, but we expect to get those done in the next few quarters. If we're to be optimistic, then perhaps one of them sooner.

[Robert Dodd, Director at Raymond James]

Got it. Got it. I mean, just to that point, I mean, on the repositioning of the portfolio, etc., going forward, to your point, some of these aggregators, there were broader club deals. There were a lot of other people involved, which adds complexity if it does reach the point that a restructuring is required. Is there any change, or is there likely to be any change in kind of the types of deals you're going to do on a go-forward basis in terms of how many other lenders you're willing to be in a group with? I mean, you said you didn't want to do the broadly syndicated or the second liens unless you had strong influence, I think was your wording, something to that effect.I mean, is that going to be more true across the portfolio as well, where there will be less of these broad group deals and more the dominant lender kind of deal? What are your thoughts there?

[Philip Tseng, Managing Director, Chairman, CEO & Co-CIO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

Yeah. Robert, we are definitely taking that approach going forward. We feel that some of the errors of the past have been related to situations where we're not able to exercise our influence. The bucket of broadly second-line loans that were put on in 2021, that's clearly an area that we've seen the shortcomings of not being able to exercise the experience, the skill set, the capabilities of our team in these situations. That's definitely one of the stated areas of focus for us going forward. By the way, whether that's whether we look at second-line or even a first-line.

[Robert Dodd, Director at Raymond James]

Got it. Appreciate it. Thank you.

[Philip Tseng, Managing Director, Chairman, CEO & Co-CIO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

Thank you, Robert.

[Operator]

As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question today, please do so now by pressing star, followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. The next question comes from Paul Johnson with KBW. Please go ahead, Paul.

[Paul Johnson, Vice President at KBW]

Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. I was wondering, can you just explain what happened here with the Job&Talent markup? What drove that? It appears to be there's a few different things going on with the investment. This quarter, I'm not sure if you made a new investment in that company or exactly what's going on there. That'd be helpful. Thanks.

[Philip Tseng, Managing Director, Chairman, CEO & Co-CIO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

Yeah, thanks, Paul. Job and Talent is one of the tech-enabled staffing agencies that we've had in our portfolio for some time. Job and Talent has been performing. It's seen year-over-year growth on both revenue and profitability. This past quarter, we did have an opportunity to provide growth capital there. One, I think the markup came from improved performance or continued to improve performance. Second is from the economics that we benefited from on this incremental growth capital. The company has continued to invest in growth. As part of that, there's an opportunity as an incumbent lender to structure a really nice preferred debt investment in the business, which included really enhanced economics that accrued to our benefit here.

[Paul Johnson, Vice President at KBW]

Are you able to share any of the economics, how you're, what sort of income you're receiving or what you guys hold there?

[Robert Dodd, Director at Raymond James]

Yeah, Paul. No, we're really not, we haven't done so in the past, but we're, for confidentiality reasons, not able to share the details.

[Paul Johnson, Vice President at KBW]

Okay. Yeah. Thanks for that. Then.

[Philip Tseng, Managing Director, Chairman, CEO & Co-CIO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

I will add.

[Paul Johnson, Vice President at KBW]

Go ahead. Sorry.

[Philip Tseng, Managing Director, Chairman, CEO & Co-CIO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

Yeah. I will add that we're just it's confidential with respect to the company and the terms of the deal. I think it was a very attractive situation for us. It was one where a lot of the existing stakeholders in the business also stepped up. I think we were probably about closer to 50% of the deal because a lot of the existing stakeholders wanted to come in as well on this piece of paper.

[Paul Johnson, Vice President at KBW]

Okay. Got it. Thanks. That's helpful. The last one I just had, I think I had asked a few quarters ago, but I'm curious, are you pursuing any new SBIC licenses, or is there any plans to do so this year?

[Robert Dodd, Director at Raymond James]

We do have plans to do so. We have a small tail amount still available under our current license, but we are underway in the process of obtaining a second license, which is, by the way, the max that you can get. You're only able to get two licenses.

[Paul Johnson, Vice President at KBW]

Right. Got it. Do you have any thoughts on that process? Is that window still open, or any of the ongoing administration changes? Has that disrupted kind of the expected timeline or anything for getting a license approved?

[Robert Dodd, Director at Raymond James]

Yeah. So far, from what we can tell, it has not impacted either the availability or the timing. It does take a little bit of time. It always has. So far, there's been no real changes to the process.

[Paul Johnson, Vice President at KBW]

Okay. Thank you very much. That's all for me.

[Robert Dodd, Director at Raymond James]

Thanks, Paul.

[Operator]

Thank you. As a further reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please do so now by pressing star, followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. At this time, we have no further questions registered, and so I'll turn the call back over to Phil Tseng for closing remarks.

[Philip Tseng, Managing Director, Chairman, CEO & Co-CIO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp]

Thank you. In closing, I want to thank our entire team at BlackRock TCP Capital for all of their hard work and our investors and analysts for your continued trust and support. Please reach out to us with any questions. Thank you.

[Operator]

Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. This concludes our call, and you may now disconnect your line.

Participants

Executives

• Philip Tseng, Managing Director, Chairman, CEO & Co-CIO
• Jason Mehring, Managing Director & President

Analysts

• Robert Dodd, Director at Raymond James
• Christopher Nolan, Senior VP of Equity Research at Ladenburg Thalmann
• Michaela Murray, Head of Investor Relations at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp
• Paul Johnson, Vice President at KBW
• Eric Cuellar, CFO at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp